Thread 717310945

What will the new FromSoft game be for 2026? And no, I’m not talking about the DS3 remaster… they have a new, full game coming to celebrate their 40th anniversary (founded in 1986).

I heard it is a new King’s Field…

>>717310945 (OP)
No it's not. Stop giving me hope you cunts. There's no way in hell they're touching that shit ever again.

>>717310945 (OP)
How would Fromsoft integrate rollslop/parryslop into the King's Field formula though?

>>717311457
I would just do it in first person. And drop the roll and go with the bloodborne dodge. Although maybe keep the roll and have it be really fucking disorienting because well, you're rolling of course it might be in first person. They can call it immersive.

>>717310945 (OP)
Didn't they announce a switch 2 exclusive?

>>717311457
Basically DMMM.

look at duskblood assets that feel of place in the trailer. they are from their next game

>>717311649
Yeah I’m not talking about Huskbloods though… not a real game.

>>717310945 (OP)
more souls of duty slop

>>717311457
How come you schizos are triggered by this defensive tool but are ok with others? That function could easily be served via the blocking mechanic from Shadow Tower.
Am I a fool for trying to understand children who spam buzzwords like this when they're probably doing it just to be annoying

>>717311601
They have combatrolls in games like GTA5 in firstperson and it isn’t that disorienting…

>>717311832
Dying Light and DMMM are other great examples of how to make fluid, fast firstperson gameplay and combat that isn’t disorienting or nauseating.

>>717311457
if they had any brains left in the company, they wouldn't.

>>717312132
kys, trannyboi

another elden ring DLC

>>717313034
coping fromtard

I was thinking a King’s Field game where you do a ton of dungeons to reach the planet core would be cool as fuck but Donkey Kong just did that

>>717310945 (OP)
IIRC, Fromsoft had three games in the works. Some of this is based on interviews, some conjecture.
>Duskbloods
>AC6.5
>Something Else Unannounced
Duskbloods appears to have been the game Miyazaki started directing immediately after ER wrapped up, with Kenneth Chan in a producer role. I also think that the old rumoured game "Spellbound" is Duskbloods.
AC6.5 we can infer from the internal codename "FMC". Typically codenames starting with F refers to Dark Souls or AC (AC6 was FNR for example). There is however the possibility FMC refers to the Dark Souls 3 Remaster (which for what it's worth I don't think exists).
I really do hope that their unannounced game is a return to the dungeon crawling formula we've seen in King's Field and Shadow Tower. I'd like to see Fromsoft take on the ImSim genre but in their trademark dark fantasy style. THQ recently announced a new game which has similarities to Dark Messiah, which I kinda hoped Fromsoft had caught onto.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hVwLCS2ilw

>>717313810
Please tell me this is AI…

>>717313810
Nah, it's been stated that the S2 version is the definitive edition. ER will be 4 years old at that point.

>>717313810
>>717315837
I really hope there isn't more ER. I just couldn't with SotE. I get what they were trying to do, but for me at least it just didn't land.
I don't want any more rehashes. The only "sequel" I'll accept is more AC since each entry isn't really a sequel but a re-imagining.

>>717310945 (OP)
Full-blown FPS ARPG. Better yet, make it a Shadow Tower remake so we can have guns.

>>717310945 (OP)
doll footrub simulator. The entire game is you rubbing the feet of a a doll, with dolljoints (important). That's the entire game.

>>717318973
>Full-blown FPS ARPG
This. I want a massive mega dungeon. No fast travel. Every few levels there's a lift or something that takes you back to the hub/base. Many paths/entries/exits to the levels. High interactivity with the level - I'm talking traps, jamming doors, putting out torches, physics puzzles. Limited range of gear (but every tool is specifically useful for a specific case, think using a hammer against skeletons, using a spear in narrow places).

Pirate souls

>>717311457
There is a mod for DS3 for first-person camera, you can imagine that it's going to be something like that.

>>717311775
Because they're a bunch of contrarian 70 IQ apes who hate anything popular, so they latched onto one of the defining mechanics of the series and act like it's some evil invented solely by From and not a thing that has been around for literal decades.

>>717310945 (OP)
Kings Field was replaced by the Chalice Dungeons in Bloodborne and the catacombs in Elden Ring. They're an identical type of samey dungeon crawler.
The first 3 games suck, and the 4th was just 'okay'.

>>717311775
I hate how it looks.
And it is one of the most toxic defensive mechanics an action game could have. Total invincibility for a fairly long amount of time that also helps you reposition and can be spammed multiple times in a row.
Almost everything that people hate about modern Souls bosses is due to the dodge roll being so powerful.
Because the devs have to build the game around the player being immune to 9/10 attacks. So everything attacks 3 or more times in a row, is very fast, and does a ton of damage.

>>717320475
I think if rolling was like it was in DS2 there'd be no issue. You can maybe roll 3 times at best, and it's slower, and has a longer recovery window. I'd even be okay with a single roll with a long recovery window.

>>717310945 (OP)
King's Field is a cool concept but first person combat is just garbage no matter how you do it, not even From would be able to pull it off I don't think
It would take a full body VR immersive sim to make it worthwhile and no one is going to be doing that, especially From
Hopefully a new IP is coming, maybe something horror themed like Kuon and after that I wouldn't mind a new Armored Core, whether it's 7 or an expansion on FoR
I really hope the DS3 rumors are bogus or at least if it is real it's not being wasted resources on by From and made by someone else

>>717310945 (OP)
Lost Kingdoms 3 for Switch 2.

>>717310945 (OP)
>>717311298
No its not because Miyazaki and eveeyone else at From considers Kings Field to be the personal property of their now retired founder Natoshi Zen.

>>717321172
He retired? Fuck, it's actually over

>>717310945 (OP)
Lots of rolling and parryslop. The modern gaymer is incapable of playing an original King's Field game

>>717311457
Vermintide has parrying and dodging

>>717320725
kys

>>717315665
it's real, but you aren't supposed to look at it if you aren't 25, your location's been logged

>>717311775
it's funny because it makes troonies like (You) have melties

sorry about making fun of your shit games, sister, don't ack yourself over it

>>717320725
>Hopefully a new IP is coming, maybe something horror themed like Kuon
Just something new, thanks. There's enough dark fantasy stuff. Time for From to set a new bar for a genre. Do a Kuon successor, or a JRPG, or a Musou. Just something different.

>>717310945 (OP)
I'd be down for a new King's Field.
I mean between Duskblood and Nightreign they're kinda just doing anything these days. They just needed one game that actually sold to return to Old Fromsoft where they're just making whatever junk they feel like lol.

I feel like most people would want something tonally like KF4, though, and they've kinda done that to death with Dark Souls. Maybe if they pushed the KF2 sci-fi angle, but even that they kinda did with Bloodborne.

>>717311457
>kf5 drops
>it's another simple adventure where you become an unkillable beast quickly and end the game tanking boatloads of damage with a herb and potion iv drip
>all the fromdrones have a melty about fromsoft selling out and casualizing because they've never even smelled a kf
would be kino

>>717310945 (OP)
It would be cool if they at least did something to acknowledge the 30th anniversary (1996) of the release of the first 2 King’s Field games to be released in North America

>>717323741
They should repackage and rerelease the King's Field maker tool for modern systems via Steam or something. The pricks.

>>717323979
Didn't they release the engine for KF for free? That clone, Lunacid, is made on it.

>>717320107
Aldrich spoke of the age of the deep sea...

>>717310945 (OP)
Why the fuck would they remaster 3. What about one or two? What about starting from the first fucking game? This world is gay and its inhabitants retarded

>>717324039
It's abandonware, more than free. But still technically useable.

>>717323979
I'd be down for a total series release. Including the mobile games, why not. I think they technically did that at one point, like the only time Fromsoft has ever done a rerelease.

>>717311775
Because DS3 was when they went full retard and made you roll 10 hit combos.
Shadow tower blocking sucks. I have some ideas how to improve Kingsfield but they are too good to share

>>717318973
Guns ruined abyss dont put that cancer in ST

>>717325037
>It's abandonware
Ah I see. It was an official release in 2000, but since then some guy has been fixing it to suit modern software/hardware.
Looks like the prequel to Lunacid (Tears of the Moon) was made in Sword of Moonlight: Maker Tool, whereas Lunacid itself was made in Unity.

>>717320258
Unfathomably incorrect

Miyazaki wants his servants to start making games so the chance of King's Field appearing again like AC is very high

>>717310945 (OP)
>1986
What the fuck? They were founded 8 years before they released a single game?

>>717321172
Miyazaki jobbed so hard to Naotoshi Zin, its unbelievable how much better Shadow tower does its job than any souls game

>>717310945 (OP)
Some slop, like always, and /v/eddit will eat it up like the good little consumer cattle they are.

>>717326448
Yeah they started out making business software crap then switched to games because Sony was paying hand over fist to get any developers for the PS1 launch.

>>717326448
And that game only released in Japan. It wasn’t until 1996 that they actually released their second game internationally…

>>717310945 (OP)
Going to go out on a limb and bet it's rollslop.

>>717320107
we need a resurgence of pirate games, and fromsoft could not only make a great pirate game, but they would also influence other studios to make one in response

>>717323128
Was it KF4 that had that well that restored MP? I remember coasting through the entire game with just the healing spells.

>>717310945 (OP)
They have to change their formula. Soulslop peaked with Elden Ring and Black Myth Wukong (not quality wise but popularity wise). People are fatigued.

>>717310945 (OP)
I used to think there would be no reason to make a new King’s field until I actually played 4 and realized that they’re different beasts from souls games, especially by Elden Ring that you could actually justify it.

>>717326919
It would require changes to their formula, namely world design, but I think they could do it justice.

>>717310945 (OP)
Eldenring 2 according to leaks
Its map will be 20 times bigger than er1

>>717327324
Hell no who actually wants that?

>>717327127
I doubt you even played Wukong unless you're from China.

>>717327352
Fans

>>717311719
Cope. I don't like it either, but it is their next major release.

Shadow tower 3 (Impossible dream game) with respawning after death, enemies get harder as you die, No mouselook, sanity mechanics tied to current MP, MP can go negative, 30+ minute long status effects that persist after death, SC chaos theory stealth mechanics, hp cost to repair, repairing weapons too many times turns them to dust, mp cost to charge spell catalysts, attack or doing too much healing magic builds up exertion which makes your power bar fill slower and you breathe harder until you have to take a knee for several seconds, you can hold breath to hide from monsters which also builds exertion
Every obtuse mechanic in the book like giving boots an echo, waterproof and inhibit stat. Having to use a spell to see the time remaining on buffs and ailments. Randomly appearing shops
The anti rollslop game, pure survival horror, incredible consequence behind every action, if you softlock yourself its your fault. Dont you dare go hollow

>>717327127
>souls peaked with the two most recent high profile souls/soulslike games released
>this means audiences are fatigued
I wouldn't say that. You would need the next game to do worse than Elden Ring to claim people are tired of it (excluding Nightreign and Duskbloods because those aren't really the same thing). Right now they're riding on an all-time high and probably specifically made Armored Core and these pvpve games as intermissions so people wouldn't get tired of Souls.

>>717310945 (OP)
Sup guys, Fromsoft employee here. Mitsubishi is getting really into King of Queens recently, says he wants to purchase the rights for a game.

>>717326448
They were a business software company until the PS1 released IIRC. They did bank computers and stuff.

>>717311457
I hope they don't, they should keep the first person PoV and double down on lighting mechanics.
The only defensive options should be shield, deflect, parry

>>717327795
SOVL

>>717310945 (OP)
Dark Souls IIIII.

>>717313810
>I am Godwyn, blade of Marika and i have...

>>717326931
KF4 also gave you the best ring in the game like 10 minutes in. the one that 5x your mana pool.

>>717323128
This is why Fromsoft needs optional hard modes. Preferrable like Igavania hard modes where they unlock after you beat it and things gets faster and stronger

>>717329475
This fucking clarity bracelet is probably Fromsofts most headscratching mechanic ever. A core feature of Kingsfield 1-3 turned into a missable item

>>717311775
niggers on here shit in fromsoft for using roll as a defensive mechanic and calling it an asset flip while defending actual unreal engine slop with unreal engine store bought assets and animations such as e33.
dont think too much about it, its just niggers hating on fromsoft because they are dumb niggers.

>>717310945 (OP)
Duskbloods

Unrelated but is Bloodborne good? Good as in having depth and not rollslop.
Kingsfield Shadow tower and DS1-2 are firmly not rollslop so I like them. DS3 was garbage 1 dimensional overbalanced rollslop so I despise it. How is Bloodborne though? It looks like rollslop but does it still provide that classic Fromsoft adventure?

>>717330742
bloodborne is ds3 before ds3

> We've been around for 40 years.
> Trust us, bro!
But you were a courier comp-
> NOOOOOOO DARK SLOPS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS CHUD!

Clown World

I want an entire game that is Bloodbornes Chalice Dungeons, you go deeper and deeper, heals are limited, survival horror dungeon crawling

>>717331019
So its shit...

>>717310945 (OP)
and it's raining post toasties

>>717334274
it's like a mix between DS1 and DS3. Story, adventure, atmosphere is there but not as good as DS1, action and agression is in focus but it's not as rollsloppy as DS3 and it's based more around dodging/parrying than rolling.

>>717313810
wtf I have to submit my ID to Hiromoot to see this picture???

>>717321172
Zin still works at From in an advisory role. He and Tanimura are co-directing King's Field 5.

>>717310945 (OP)
Fuck first person trash, I hope it's a new Dark Souls game. A game set in the age of fire would be baller.

>>717334473
I was thinking, if anything didn't he unretire to do design work on Dark Souls 2 after like 15 years in a producer/advisor role?

>>717329834
I think it's supposed to have some kind of downside like your magic cast bar recharging slower or something but it straight up doesnt work or the effect is miniscule.

>>717311457
Dying light with a dodge mechanic.

Where would I start if I wanted to get into King's Field?

>>717311601
so doom eternal king's field sounds kino the slayah with moonlight blade let's fucking gooooooo

>>717339627
probably King's Field

>>717310945 (OP)
I ended up liking AC6 and that was my first AC game. I hope they do make a new KF. That will be my first KF game. Hopefully I do end up liking it though. Something tells me they won't ever make a new one due to that archaic jank gameplay.

>>717311457
>>717311601
How about make it like a melee RPG version of Metroid Prime? So you aim at the enemy with the left trigger or shoulder button and attack with the right. X/A functions as the dodging. Also keep the melee simple. No dramatic looking flurries and combos. It would look and function like the old games otherwise maybe just with faster stamina recharge.

>>717320107
>lived to see the end of the boat arc
>Miura died immediately after
life can be twisted sometimes

>>717311775
10+ years ago it was “cover based shooters”

>>717326448
They made farming software for pigs

>>717343527
those were dogshit western games tho
literally 0 good cover shooters have ever been made

>>717311457
Dark Souls 2, such actions are very stamina intensive with commital as combat is slower paced.

>>717339627
Play labia of the demon king
Then shadow tower abyss
Then kings field 4
Then maybe kings field 3
Ignore kings field (j) 1 and kings field 2 unless you’re desperate

>>717343957
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>717324851
It needs it most since it's the worst souls game. It would probably also be the easiest to remaster since it's so similar to Elden Ring.

>>717343979
Dark Souls 2 did everything in its power to get you to not rollspam and people still tried to force it.
It could just do the Dark Souls 2 thing of having attacks be easily strafeable. Don't even bother with an Unreal dash, just let players run to the side, you'll be fine.

>>717344120
Thanks anon.

>>717323128
People "know KF" as the game that kills you with random traps all the time and hides everything behind random secret walls.
Not as the game where facetanking and spamming heals is the main means of defending yourself.
Perception versus Reality

>>717310945 (OP)
It's probably a Armored Core spinoff.

>>717311601
Rolling turning the character into a vomit comet would be absolutely peak.

>>717339627
KF4 is the only one that a modern gamer can go into blind and not find unplayably janky.
Past that point the other 3 are mostly for if you really liked that one and wanted something similar or were just curious.

>>717315168
I want them to do a straight up survival horror game. I want their next game to be completely different than anything they've made since dark souls and I think horror is the genre they'd do best in outside of action RPG's.

They arent going to do kings field or shadow tower just because zoomers make video essays about those games 24/7 now

>>717351671
Sounds like it could be cool if the upper cathedral ward is anything to go by.

>>717353281
But didn't you know that From was (totally not) a shovelware company outside of Armored Core for 20 years before finally making a good game!
Aren't I original for naively marvelling at c list action games from the early 2000s that everyone at the time knew were pure jank?

>>717353879
their next game is going to be action rpg rollslop with zanzibart esque story. If they call it a different series it will still largely be that. They sell like hot cakes, from fans will pre-order in droves, they arent going to sacrifice that guaranteed revenue stream, and they damn sure aren't doing something as slow and sparse (which was largely due to the technical limitations of the hardware) as a kings field game.

>>717311457
>>717311601
just do it as a dash with some iframes

>>717311457
make it blockslop like king's field additional.

Speaking on how Michael Zaki said he didn't wanna touch King's Field I wonder if Shadow Tower is included in that sentiment. Does he consider Shadow Tower someone's else's baby too? Cause if it's only KF he feels that way about loophole baby. Just make ST3.

>>717357249
he already made shadow tower 2 (demon's souls). and abyss is a shitty spin off.

>>717357383
I've never considered Demons to be another Shadow Tower. Or that Abyss was a "spin off" of the first game.

>>717357515
well the realms in demon's souls are reminiscent of the realms in shadow tower. and both have demon leaders you gotta kill. and the final boss is a king who is a blob who is also easy and preceded by a second final boss who's the real deal. game mechanics aside they are thematically similar games.

>>717310945 (OP)
I don't trust modern From to make a new KF.

>>717358436
considering the hate ds2 still gets I'm sure it'd sell like shit

>>717327795
You should still impliment firearms. Maybe at the end of the game or use MP to create magic bullets but they cost extra and degrade the gun faster