Thread 717314469

>battlefield 6 requires you to fiddle with your BIOS secure boot for their kernel level anticheat to play the beta
>normalfags will eat it up anyway
grim

I'd do anything for cute asian girls.

>>717314534
She’s not cute

>>717314534
fuck that bitch

How in the fuck zoomers keep fucking this shit up? SecureBoot has been a thing since 2012 when 8 launched, 13 years ago.
Only fucking glowniggers keep trying to make users have them disabled for easy hacking

>>717314469 (OP)
normalfags will play on console

>>717314705
>Only fucking glowniggers keep trying to make users have them disabled for easy hacking
Glowniggers have backdoors baked into the bios just for them. They don't need you to disable it.

>>717314469 (OP)
fiddle with these nuts lmao gottem

>>717314764
See? just a retarded faggot spouting nonsense, learn how tech works you moran

>>717314845
>moran
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>717314883
nice ad hominem glowfaggot

>>717314962
glowGODS wonned
seethe in impotent rage

>>717314469 (OP)
the average normalfag has never seen a BIOS menu and is playing their video games on a console

>>717314469 (OP)
Honestly, it's funny that those SKG fags complain about "renting the game," yet still somehow ignore mega corporations that basically reside on your computer for free while stealing your data. The fact that you have to pay just so a mega corporation can hog your computer, steal your data, and then sell it without giving you anything in return is hilarious to me
I mean, you can ignore the whole privacy shit since it's basically meaningless nowadays, but still, your data is valuable and there should at least be some kind of reward for participating in data gathering. Lmao

>>717314705
Learn what your buzzwords mean before you shit up every facet of the internet, Ranjesh

This game will only sell on console, there is no way normies will enter in a BIOS setting.

>>717315649
>zero arguments
>ad hominem
good morning sir!

>>717315586
SKG is the biggest grift ever
So many other shit to fight for but retards pour all their efforts into "hurrr le make shitty dead games alive forever"

>>717314469 (OP)
This news caused me to cancel my pre-order. I hope Battlebit goes through another revival and I can just play that for at least a couple more months.

>>717314469 (OP)
>>717314469 (OP)
Yes people will put up with it to not deal with cheaters.

It's honestly why I haven't played an fps since the beginning of Trump's first term.

Everyone will say "you just need admins" ...kek.. it's so insanely easy to just use wall hacks and never get caught

>>717316004
you're naive to think having secureboot and TPM 2.0 enabled is going to stop hackers

>>717314469 (OP)
mind sharing the link to your Steam account so we can see your game bans saar?

>>717316101
yes if a preventative measure isn't 100% effective then you need to fight against it
this is why I don't wear seatbelts and tell everyone I know to take them off

Man, you retards in this thread are so fucking dumb.

First of all, they can install their kernel anti cheat software without secure boot. Secure boot is a wall that prevents any software from being installed in the kernel, unless Microsoft has authorized that software. It prevents rootkits from being installed.

>>717314469 (OP)
lol

>>717316004
Yep I use wall hacks/esp all day in games like squad, hell let loose, in dedicated servers with admins. Friend of mine uses a new, machine learning driven, aim not, not once has been banned or even kicked

>>717314883
get a brain moran
go usa

>>717316174
So enabling secure boot just reduces the breadth of what software can be installed. It literally makes your PC more secure.

>>717316194
the beta isn't live yet retard

>>717314845
>learn how tech works you moran

>>717316194
the servers aren't available to play on yet, just people messing with their graphical settings

>>717316004
it's about creating a massive barrier. If it's easier and cheaper to cheat in popular game x vs popular game y then cheaters go to popular game x

It's why valorant is effectively cheat free

>>717314705
Prove to all of us here why disabling SecureBoot makes you more exposed to law enforcement.
Go ahead, make me laugh.

Also, remember who signs valid certificates? That company that's partnered up with the US govt?
You people disgust me.

>>717316274
>>717316292
holy cope batman!

>>717314469 (OP)
Holy shit lmao, I'm pro anti cheat but nobody is doing this shit.

>>717314469 (OP)
i wonder how many normies will accidently fuck around with the wrong settings like deleting the hardisk from the boot order and shit lmao

>>717316342
well I'm anti pro cheat and everyone is doing this shit

>>717316342
Only retarded zoomers who built their pc wrong have it disabled
Every oem system and properly built pc have it enabled since 2012

>>717316363
already happened

How do I get around the needing to update to the latest NVIDIA drivers? I don't want to use the latest broken slop. This is a deal breaker for me.

>>717316101
Yes that's why valorant has as many cheaters as escape from tarkov

>>717316401
apparently a lot of prebuilts come with it turned off for God only knows what reason but I can't confirm or deny it myself

>>717316330
>coping is just stating a reason now
Lol

Meanwhile secure boot is already enabled when I bought the mobo ;)
Also stealth troonix thread.

>>717314469 (OP)
>fiddle with your BIOS
That stuff is on if you haven't gone and disabled it, because you heard that it's putting microplastics in your balls by a schizo.

>>717316460
>apparently a lot of prebuilts come with it turned off
Thats imposible, microsoft requirements for oems are pretty tight, you can't sell a system that doesn't meet them

>>717316401
Only illiterates leave this shit on.

>>717316329
fun fact secure boot certificats are about to run out next year for Windows 10, Windows 11, Windows Server 2025, Windows Server 2022, Windows Server 2019, Windows Server 2016, Windows Server 2012, Windows Server 2012 R2
and at that point new software that require new certificats cant be installed anymor

>>717316460
Mine came with it on but then again mines not from some shady prebuilt site

>>717316583
Why? What does it do that made you feel the need to turn it off?

>>717316583
Sure thing glownigger, sure thing

>>717316610
Because I don't just use my PC for games and want to run a real OS.

>>717316581
>>717316591
I think it has something to do with those gay ass iBuyPower and similar scam prebuilts that come with a bunch of bloatware preinstalled

>>717316330
>inb4 i was merely pretending

>>717315586
Stop Killing Games is about one thing, so it has a chance to work, instead of being about a trillion different things that wouldn't work.
Also your data is neither in the kernel nor in the secure boot settings, so companies don't need any of that to steal your shit, you retard.

>>717316651
Okay, you can still dual boot linux with secure boot enabled.

>>717316652
iBuyPower isn't an oem partner

this confuses and angers the zoomie

>>717315924
>run forever
Not what it's about, and companies should be required to give you a way to keep playing the game once they do not want to support it anymore. Are you dumb?

nigger even league of legends players figured this out
surely you too can do it

>>717316651
>>717316583
>enroll your own keys
>linux boots fine
i hate tech illiterates like you wouldn't believe

>>717316651
Linux has supported secure boot for ages now

>>717316719
I'm a zoomerGOD and those are on though.

>>717316697
Yes, but enabling it just creates more headaches and no advantages outside of playing this one video game.

>>717315832
They don't have to, because "normies" didn't turn it off to begin with. It's only tech illiterate 4chan experts who turn it off because they think they are smarter than everybody else while having no idea what it does and why its useful.

>>717316807
I think that headache is from your inoperable brain tumor and not secure boot

>>717316778
Why would I do this when everything works fine with it disabled?

>>717316856
Sure bud enjoy your fotm video game.

I almost gave up but I was able to enable it.
Just needed to update the bios and gpu drivers is all.

>>717316651
>run a real OS.
Yeah, your a jeet working in PHP/wordpress sweatshop, of course you need a "real OS"

>>717316862
>usecase for security?
absolute state

>>717316748
He's just an ESL faggot that cares more about some culture war bullshit rather than preserving video games.

I like it when games have a barrier of entry.

keeps the undesirables out.

>>717316889
>I almost gave up but I was able to enable it.

Did you follow the Reddit guide like I did?

>>717316946
This. Also the minimum GPU being a 2060 TI will keep a lot of cheaters out

>>717316938
You're upboat, madam
You sir just saved videogames!

>>717316985
I followed a reddit comment on how to get out of a MoBo soft brick by removing the CMOS battery.

>>717316946
>>717316994
>game flops
>"what the le fuck how could this le be????????"

>>717316909
on a desktop yes its pointless to enable.

>>717317049
>xir motherboard doesn't just have a reset button
holy ewaste

>>717316885
>Sure bud enjoy your fotm video game
I will, thank you. Enjoy not playing video games because you're too inept or stubborn to change a single setting.

>>717317079
I can't wait until you get rootkitted kek
>wtf how did my boot process get compromised!?
meanwhile I'll sit here laughing as Secure Boot refuses to run any code not enrolled

>>717317049
Oh, okay.... For me, I had to switch it to Custom, reset settings, which restarted my PC, then I went back into BIOS and enabled SB, save + exit, and Secure Boot was enabled when I checked after reaching the desktop.

>>717317135
Oh no I hope I don't click the wrong link and get a rootkit

So why should I not enable secureboot? Does it break your computer?

>>717317148
I had to do all that because Secure Boot said Enabled but it wasn't active. The conflicting information made me look up a fix.

>>717317197
I heard secure boot got a kid and even a dog

>>717314469 (OP)
If it means no cheaters then I'm fine with it.

>/g/ slapfighting
>look at the tab
>/v/

>>717317197
it doesn't break your computer if you set it up correctly i.e. not using bypass scripts for ancient hardware and legacy boot modes intended for Windows 7 and earlier

>>717317258
Its always fun to shit on retard zoomers who keep repeating bad security practices because they are the hecking rebels and shit

>>717317258
>daily troonix thread
>trooncord drama
>elden troon thread
/v/ is troonified these days, just like /g/

>>717317302
I'm turning off this faggot shit and no amount of glownigger begging will get me to urn it back on.

>>717317302
same dude I cant wait for hardware attestation and locked bootloaders on every desktop.

>>717317403
nobody is begging, you are such an insipid faggot that we don't want you playing our games KEK

>>717317403
glowniggers are the ones telling you to turn it off, just go do it like I give a shit what retarded zoomers do lmao

>>717317567
Only thinker troons with their troon kernel gets mad at secure boot lol

>>717317301
Only your boot drive needs to be GPT right? My storage HDD is MBR

>>717317337
>troonix
>trooncord
>elden troon

>>717314469 (OP)
>retard thinks Secure Boot is kernel-level malware
NOW THIS IS TECH ILLITERACY

>>717316004
>to not deal with cheaters
Well good thing they will still have to deal with cheaters anyways.

My Secure Boot appears to be off by default, so I'm gonna leave it off. I don't care if it's more or less secure.

>>717315095
go to bed then

I turned secure boot on by accident when I updated my BIOS. I'm not going to play the game but I don't think the requirement is a big deal.

>>717317778
>My Secure Boot appears to be off by default, so I'm gonna leave it off.

You don't have to turn it on unless you want to play BF6. The whole reason it's even being discussed is because you get an error while starting BF6.

>>717317648
yes, only the boot drive.

>>717317517
>microsoft signed keys will protect me from glowniggers

>>717316946
Real.

The people complaining about TPM and Secure Boot are vid related:
https://files.catbox.moe/nu8p3p.mp4

>>717317928
holy sovl

>>717317517
>>717317926
the glowniggers already have official backdoors into all your devices you fucking idiots
secureboot is to keep out third world malware

>>717317926
>i can’t enroll my own keys
tech illiterates, everyone.

>>717317953
It's so bad that I had to look up where it's from, and it's from Battlefield 2042. At least you get to shoot whatever that is.

>microsoft signs your secrets
>call it secure
>defend this

do zoomers realy?

>>717318070
>just sign a new key every time your kernel updates goy

>>717317246
How about this and you still have cheaters?

>>717318532
>types password once when kernel updates
>new modules are now enrolled
many effort. such hard.

>>717318350
What part of checking kernel signatures against locally stored keys is supposed to be concerning?

>>717318662
>How about this and you still have cheaters?

Do you have any proof of cheaters in this game?

>>717318070
>sbctl enroll-keys --microsoft
Humiliation ritual.

I can't believe we've reached a point where we have unironic EA shills here working for free

>>717318730
Or I just do nothing and let some jeets at microcuck do it for me when I sleep

>>717318746
The part where you could literally not have any of it and be just as well.
Do you really think you're more secure with that thing handled by microsoft?
Name ONE example of when that actually truly helped in real life.
It's all an act. It's the fucking TSA of bootloaders lmao

>>717318904
We've had unironic EA shills and actual EA employees here for more than 15+ years.

I just enabled SecureBoot and TPM 2 and now Microsoft is telling me that my semen samples are invalid

A SECURE BOOT JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!!!

>>717319095
IT SHOT A KERNEL ANTI CHEAT ON MY LAWN

NOOOOOOOOOO DO NOT REDEEM THE SECURE BOOT SAAAAAR

I didn't know enabling secureboot was any more complex than just flipping the setting to enabled. What the fuck are people doing with their PCs?

secure boot stands outside my window every night but disappears every time I try to confront it or call 911. the police say they can't do anything to help.
I hear secure boot tapping on the second story windows, and skittering noises across the roof. I don't even know what I can do to protect myself. I sleep with a Linux under my pillow now, if I can even call it sleeping. the days feel shorter. pray for me.

Just wait until Bill turns on the chip in your assholes and turns this "secure boot" malware into an actual AIDS virus.
Then who will cry

>>717318904
>for free
shills are getting paid anon
not much, but infinitely more than janitors

>>717319358
Differs from mobos it seems, a couple brands look to have a convoluted set of conditions and steps or else you can easily brick the mobo or endlessly BSOD. There are also a few requirements like your boot hard drive needs to be in a certain GUID Partition Table format.

DAS RiTE
This a millennial board now.
Zoomers and their tech illiteracy.

>>717319523
My MSI motherboard has three settings
>Off
>Off, but lies to windows and says it's on
>On

>>717319779
>Off, but lies to windows and says it's on

Lmao. That was my problem. I couldn't launch BF6 because it said "no secure boot" so I went to BIOS and it said Enabled. I was like what the fuck, but I managed to fix it: >>717317148

>>717314469 (OP)
>>717316194
>comparing beta player counts
>thinking that anyone here actually cares about nu COD

what did the pajeet marketers mean by this?

its another battlefield thread where someone is complaining about the most sub par shit no one cares about

subhuman

>The glowies want you to turn it off!!!11!!
>We use the hip terms correct, right fellow kids!
Remember to upgrade to Windows 11 too before you get hacked!

>>717319915
AIKA sexo.

>>717314845
>moran
But I already have a brain, anon

I just want to know what sinister plot these fucking shills are working towards that requires me to enable a basic security feature.

>>717314469 (OP)
I will not enable secure boot, fuck yourself EA.

>>717320067
>police tell you to lock your doors
>"Not this time you fucking glowies! I will be keeping the doors to my house unlocked! I never get raided, I have a gun!"

>>717320067
Hi, Andrew Wilson here, CEO of EA Games.

I'm going to get your information and frame you for various sex crimes unless you buy the Advanced Battlepass every season. I'm going to come to your house and slap your dog in the nuts, and that ones just for fun.

>>717320136
SAAAAAAAAAAAR

bros am I gonna brick my PC for some BF6? I think I might.

UEFIrootkitbros... they're enabling sb... it's over...

>>717314469 (OP)
>not already having that on

>>717320241
Jokes on you, Andrew Wilson, I activated Secure Boot on my dog so it doesn't have any nuts for you to slap.

>>717320241
no anime gun skins no secure boot

>>717320296
I will be providing the dog and the nuts. It's included with the Advanced Battlepass.

I don't give a fuck about SecureBoot, but there is no chance in hell I'm letting them install an always-on eternal rootkit anti-cheat that won't even uninstall when you uninstall the game itself.

>>717320336
That would actually be pretty neat. Add a dog "gadget" to the game that goes out and bites dudes.

>>717320586
The dog is included with the Advanced Battlepass and will be your responsibility to house and feed for the duration of the game's lifespan. Consider it a lease that is tied to your game key. Any adopting or giving away of the animal will be considered a breach of TOS and you will be deported from your country of origin.

But when we shut off the servers I will need to come kill the dog.

>>717320495
none of this is true sar

>>717320495
I'm okay with it, because the only reason I keep a windows install at all is to run these anticheats.

>>717320878
>He doesn't even play the games
>He just installs windows and the anticheats
>lets the anticheats run simultaneously and fight each other
what a madman

>>717320986
The cheaters can't win if you never play.

It is not traditional malware, it's far worse: it strips you/others of your freedom. Malware can be removed, but you can't change a society/ecosystem designed to remove your freedoms and imprison/restrict you.
With Win11, Microsoft tries to normalize SecureBoot/TPM. They say it won't be used for DRM, but it's exactly that, they've been salivating since early 2000s for a "trusted computing base" (a computer in their control, not yours, user can't decide what to do or what to run, unless approved by them).
I'm not innocent or a /v/ user, I'm a software cracker/scener. I don't cheat at online games, but made online cheats when I was a kid.
On Android, this is a reality as of 1/2y ago - many programs won't run if you have root. This can be hacked if you have the hardware's keys for remote attestation (some leaked). On PC, MS dreams of it. Once they have enough legit Win11 users, they can flip the switch and force it on everyone. It will make it much harder to modify or pirate software - the mall number of crackers will get smaller as hardware will need hacking (or finding privesc in OS). This was Microsoft and some power hungry software publishers's wet dream, to finally try to stop us. They won't, but we'll be fewer.
You could at least avoid giving MS the statistics by disabling SecureBoot and TPM and using only IoT versions of Windows 10/11 that lack this requirement.
Regular users will become true cucks that won't be able to say no to what the corpo shoves down their throat once this happens - even if most didn't know they could refuse (lacking ability to crack software themselves), this just aims to take that option.
It's not malware, but a rape of your freedoms, like Visa taking away video games and porn.
Many here will justify cucking themselves/others for the sake of their convenience of avoiding some cheaters.
As that one quote went: Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

OH NO I GOTTA DO PC STUFF WITH MY PC???

>>717321260
Put it another way, it's trying to turn the PC into a console, that's the ultimate plan.

now all of a sudden anticheat is removing your freedom

SAAR YOU WILL NOT CHEAT SAAR

>>717321665
This has been a problem with anticheat for years, its just that people have such minuscule impulse control they'd rather hand control of their computers over to every megacorp that demands it than not be able to play the latest slop

>>717321757
every other mp game has a kernal anti cheat no one says shit but because its battlefield and its a good AC people are saying its bad? gfto with that shit

>>717321665
It is, it's basically requiring your computer to become a console. If they want hardware DRM, they can do consoles, stay off my PC.
It's requiring an unmodified / untouched PC with only "approved" internals.If thisbecomes common, it makes the PC something else, more liek a locked down TiVo box or some shit.
It's tying to systematically remove one last place of freedom.

>>717321875
then dont play the game simple as

They could have at least enabled a shooting range or something so I can actually see what my settings are doing
>do you want your crouch button to slide or stand up and press crouch to slide or slide into a crouch
NIGGER I DON'T KNOW

>>717316695
Stop saying things you don't even understand

>>717322015
It's not about this game, I don't play Battlefield at all.
The problem appears when a large majority of users have decided to become cucks and enable it, and Win11 requires it to enforce this.
In that case most software authors can choose to use this option and MS turns the PC into a console.
You can understand why I'm very upset about attempts to take away the last loophole we have to not be subject to others requirements? Consoles were this and you could choose to simply not use a console, but use a PC, now if PC becomes turned into a console, there's nowhere for us to go besides hacking the PC same as how console are hacked?
If Win11 achieves critical mass MS can do this. Maybe they care less as cloud is their main business these days, but they sure are trying to do this by policy and people are more cucked in 2025 than in 2000 when this experiment was tried before and it was rejected by most, but today the number of cucks is higher, normie already accepted all this on phones.

>>717314469 (OP)
What the hell does secureboot even do, is that the one where it only lets you run signed drivers or something

>>717322215
I think your concerns are overblown but why does it even matter? It's not like a perfectly good alternative doesn't exist. If microsoft wants to kill windows by doing what you describe, let them.

>>717322302
It checks the bootloader's signature, the bootloader can check other signatures and so recursively (it already does this for Windows).
In principle this is enough to enforce arbitrary restrictions on what software does. Console and Phones do this already.
You can of course disable this, but now this won't work when it's paired with a TPM, because the TPM can sign the state of your PC, so it can simply sign that you're running modified software or OS. Effectively it can be used to prvent you from running arbitrary things.
Currently Windows doesn't have strong restrictions, but it'd be trivial for them to try adding them.
The way console's hardware DRM is implemented is exactly in this way + a few keys baked into the hardware to sign and decrypt things. Bootstrapping software encryption with with a TPM with remote attestation is quite doable if MS truly wanted to flip the switch and make it into a console. In fact Xbox stuff is exactly this.

If you want secure boot, you're a cuck

>>717314469 (OP)
i set up secureboot for my grub/arch/w11 dualboot

no idea what this restriction was supposed to accomplish, it only stopped my arch linux disk from booting for 1 google search.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250222202143/https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/10pq74e/my_easy_method_for_setting_up_secure_boot_with/

>>717322462
Maybe they won't do it, maybe they'll do it with Windows 12, who knows really, but they're putting the tools in place and making sure users hardware supports it. You'll say use linux / OSS", but consider now how commercial software and games could easily require this.Microsoft wants to try building a closed garden like android/ios and consoles I guess. If they pull the trigger is anyone's guess, but once they have critical mass obivously they can. Battlefield and valorant doing this is clearly a sign that some companies are fine with the existing mass of users that already have it. EA doing it means they're thinking it's approaching the amount of users they're comfortable with dropping.

>>717316330
>using batman memes in 2019
yikes , it's having a cardiac arrest

This is why I have a Series X. Rootkit-tier anticheat.

I Use Arch Btw, with kde/plasma.

i dual boot windows 11 enterprise exclusively for gayming.

rootkit the shit up with spyware anticheat all they want, that shit OS isn't booted into unless gaming multiplayer games or games with mods that doesnt play nice with proton

>>717314705
>>717314845
This retarded jeet doesn't know his motherboard is already compromised

ITT: Faggots who want to cheat in battlefield but can't

>>717323209
I have a DMA card that windows thinks is a network card :^)

>>717323209
Earlier anon that was upset about this.
I don't play battlefield, but I guess I could cheat if I wanted.
The PC is not really locked down at the hardware level as consoles, so in principle if you put something on the PCIe bus, you can just read and write the memory freely, thus secureboot+tpm can be defeated with minor cooperation from the user.
I'm too old to play FPSes, I used to play Quake 3 and CS 1.1-1.6 when I was a kid, never cheated at FPSes because it's retarded and boring. Made cheats for stupid korean MMOs though, then used them for a few weeks, gotbored and moved onto the next game.

>>717323376
But I guess my cost would be higher, because they could ban the motherboard, so then you'd have to fork a few hundred $ each time you get caught.

>>717323328
idk what that means.

>>717323507
NTA, but it's as I said >>717323376
you can put unapproved hardware on the PCIe bus, which basically means the hardware can write to the memory, and you can instruct the hardware to modify whatever memory, thus you can in principle cheat.

>>717322472
If microjeet turns windows into cucksoles I'm fine with cus you lintroons don't deserve windows games and programs, what a bunch of unlikeable faggots.

>>717323557
If it requires some special hardware most people dont own, there will be fewer cheaters in the game.

>>717323572
Jesus, surely at some point it's easier to just install linux than cope this hard.

>>717323572
Never said I was a Linux user (I do use most OSes, Windows and Linux included), I did say earlier I was a cracker though. Anyway, people will keep cracking and getting those game and programs regardless of Microsoft attempts, it's just going to make things more difficult. But you sure want to own the troons more than you want liberty, that you'd burn down the last place that still has a little bit of freedom.

>>717315924
>>717316695
>>717315586
Lol, did they overestimate your shilling contract period? It's already over, the petition was successful, give up.

>>717323620
You think people aren't gonna buy shit just to cheat? Paid cheats have been a thing for years.

>>717323209
Nice pepe, I'm saving this to my hard drive (it's not a hard drive it's a solid state drive, I just said hard drive because it's synonymous with storage device).

>normgroid retards have to jump through hoops to play the newest battleslop 16: die for dei edition
that sucks man im sorry that happened

>>717323832
Yeah, some fags will still go way out of their way to cheat. But a lot of people won't if they have to buy and setup extra hardware on top of paying for the cheat itself. I don't understand why people think an anticheat only works if cheating is literally impossible.

>>717323832
Some wil. Most won't. Not a probem for me if the devs added a server browser.

>>717323734
No games OS

>>717324165
You know, all this wouldn't even be needed if they just designed the protocol so cheating was not easy. Harder for an FPS, but usually completely possible for something like a strategy game. Obviously botting itself is always possible, but you can detect unusual behavior. There's no need to force the user to run approved hardware and OS.

We should not accept this. I am curious if anyone who does have a SecureBoot enabled on a Linux distro (many of them these days can be booted with it enabled) have tried running this game's beta through Proton successfully. Proton/WINE and some native Linux games have been able to run games built with anticheats in mind just confining them to userspace; others will freak out and crash or require other workarounds.

>>717314705
SecureBoot had issues even all the way back then, such as many Linux distros not wanting to pay for an "approved" secure boot key and thus not booting unless it was turned off.

>>717315586
Ignoring privacy and giving up lets them win. You should still be fighting no matter if its this, invasive anticheats especially the one used in LoL/Valorant, any attempt to tie licenses to TPM2.0 keys or normalize it (hint: this is part of the push to Win11 including TPM 2.0 in its hardware viability assessment for full compatibility), or just pushing back against the new drive for identity verification for all manner of sites (porn or otherwise) and against payment services like Visa/MC and banks having defacto censorship ability etc. THere's a lot of stuff to be worried about and very few can be dedicated to doing it all, but we should absolutely be pushing for an Internet that respects privacy and claw back all of what was taken from us with the arrival of the social media and data mining era.

>>717314469 (OP)
Kernal anticheats doesn't even stop cheaters, all they really do is create another avenue of data siphoning on normal users.

The funny part even with all this shit you're still gonna deal with cheaters

>>717324230
>You know, all this wouldn't even be needed if they just designed the protocol so cheating was not easy
You should go design that and rake in cash.

>Kernel Anti Cheatr

OH
THANK
GOD

You ever played a Multiplayer game like Call of Duty before?
Its FULL of cheaters.
Every CS2 lobby i ever joined had a shady fucking faggot cheating ebcause Valve is doing NOTHING

>>717324028
im glad you like it fren. Have another. In this one, he's a vampire.

>>717324369
Thanks. This is all I have to trade, I hand drew it in mspaint for a german guy because otherwise the terrorists would have won.

Take it with my compliments.

>>717323772
I don't know what you're saying, but the point is how is SKG still okay when your PC has basically turned into a data mining machine just to play a video game? I mean, if the game company wants me to host a data mining program, I should be rewarded, right?

>>717324345
They cheat using linux (no kernel protection) and VM (no VM protection either), you don't even need to pay for custom HW cheat device for this when allow linux support.

>>717324514
How are those related?

>>717314705
You dumb brainless fucking faggot. Secure boot is garbage and destroys motherboards. Turning that feature on is a death sentence for your rig.

>>717321260
explain this to me since i'm not good with computer - how does win11 or secure boot or whatever ruin piracy? what's the trick?

>>717324596
lol

>>717324342
It's harder for FPS due to increased latency, but in principle not impossible if you used gateway servers that were "near" the users.
For games that don't need as realtime feedback, this is generally "easy", it simply means that you send just the user's actions. For example, you send that the user moved forward, rather than that the user is now at position x,y. It's stuff like that. If server can verify/compute the state, you can't really cheat. But this isn't turn-key, it's just something game programmers need to think about carefully.
It's basically same as for writing secure software, it's easy to write insecure software, but possible to write secure software.
Botting in general isn't preventable, but you can try to figure out how the behavior differs from typical human behavior. Again, this is per-game and depends on devs caring enough. Anticheat companies instead try to spy on the user to try to catch typical cheating programs rather than detect the bad behavior itself, so they lean toward spyware. On the other hand, cheaters have an easier time once they defeat an anticheat program.

IF YOU TURN ON SECURE BOOT WINDOWS WILL PUSH WINDOWS 11 ON YOU WITHOUT ASKING

IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON WINDOWS 10, DO NOT TURN ON SECURE BOOT AS IT'S THE ONLY THING BLOCKING WINDOWS 11

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

>>717324563
SKG just wants your game to actually be yours no more renting. Turning your PC into something that benefits someone else, while you're the one paying the operational costs, makes it feel like someone’s just stealing your property, right?
Think of it like this, imagine you bought a piece of land, but 15% of it must be used for the seller’s benefit (idk maybe turned into a farm) and you’re still the one responsible for maintaining that portion, too

>>717325034
oh thank god. I already voluntarily switched to win11 in May. I almost got the newest version of windows forced on me at an unexpected time.

>>717324604
It's a bit complicated, but a "well done" implementation would prevent programs from being ripped/cracked in the first place. It doesn't prevent you from running a cracked program, it can try to prevent someone from cracking it in the first place.
To give an example how this would be done, SeureBoot lets you run only the approved OS, the TPM generates some keys based on hashes of OS internals and current state,,signs them, sends the signed data to an external site, the site checks with the manufacturer (their keys), it can now validate that the signature is valid, it does some key exchange with the TPM (this can be done with an approriate cryptographic protocol). It sends some encryption key for code, sends the encrypted code too. If you try to access the code from the drive, it's encrypted, and you can't access the encryption key without passing the SecureBoot and TPM doesn't validate that it's the exact same state as before, so you can't access the key, you can't decrypt the program, you can't crack it.
In principle this falls when you find a bug in the OS or if you have some hardware that can read the memory. This is weaker than let's say SGX that can do this while keeping things isolated even from the OS. We can be very thankful Intel removed SGX because then we'd be in some really deep shit if that was kept. There were bugs inSGX, but it's basically console security and requires hacking the hardware to retrieve the keys or finding bugs in the software. It works the same way as why it's harder to pirate console games and needs a hack in the hardware. In principle PC hardware is a lot more diverse so they can't practically avoid many many attacks, but it certainly makes the life a lot harder for crackers, if MS wanted to.

>>717325034
>>717325206
I took a look at windows 11 a while ago and my motherboard isn't new enough or something so i literally can't get windows 11.

Whenever support for 10 is coming to an end I'm swapping to linux.

>>717325206
>he fell for Windows 8 again

Should I update to windows 11, unironically?

>>717325246
It sucks,. if you must use IoT which lacks Secure Boot requirement.

>>717325105
>property
I bought a song on itunes. I do not own that song. I just paid for the ability to listen to it.

ALSO IF YOU HAVE A PIRATED COPY OF WINDOWS

== DO NOT TURN ON SECURE BOOT FOR ANY REASON EVEN IF IT'S JUST TO TEST ==

YOU *WILL* BRICK YOUR WINDOWS INSTALL AND POTENTIALLY ENTIRE PC

>>717325232
Mine said the same thing. You need to turn on tpm2.0 in the bios. It took 30 seconds.

>>717324935
Valve, who likely has much better programmers than the average FPS dev, already tries doing this shit with CS. Ask CS players how well it's working. Ask how many high MMR players switch to a third party client with a kernel AC. If you're starting off saying, 'in principle it's not impossible', then it's probably not done like you want because it's really hard to do.

>>717325246
I liked win10 a lot more. It was faster. Now I get bluescreens more often. Stay on win10 until you can't.

>>717325330
Nah that's ok, windows is made by retarded curry niggers and video games these days are all godawful anyway so there's no real reason for me to continue using windows if they're going to make that difficult at all. If linux can be used for browsing jewtube and shitposting on 4chan then it does everything I use windows for.

>>717325319
Works on my machine.

>>717325246
ive been using it for about 6 months and honestly i dont think about it, unless i actually remember to use one of the new features. otherwise it's really just windows 10 with a different skin. it's fine.

>>717323376
>too old to play FPSes
nah, you’re either a max vaxxed retard or a stroke victim
I’ve been playing FPS games my entire life and I have only gotten better

>>717325403
Typical /v/ poster.

>>717325357
It's certainly hard to do as a lot of FPSes including Valve's have major P2P components. P2P is faster, but more easy to cheat. I don't think VAC is really intrusive as far as anticheats go. They made their tradeoffs.

>>717325429
I just haven't played them in a long while.. No idea if I'd be good or bad if I went back at it. I was pretty decent back in the day though, but I haven't played popular PFSes in the past 10 years.

>>717325442
Well, on topic for the thread, every multiplayer FPS even niche ones are awash with cheaters, every single player game is poorly made aids being fired directly into your eyes filled with niggers and faggots, there hasn't been anything worth playing made in like three years. I barely even come to /v/ anymore i mostly use /tv/

>>717325279
Why would you do that?

>>717325565
>every multiplayer FPS even niche ones are awash with cheaters
only the ones without kernel level anticheat

>>717325581
So my library stays with me after I get a new iphone. Back when I pirated stuff, moving the library over was always tedious.

>>717325685
Not really, faceit still has a fuckload of cheaters, I've never played valorant so maybe that's better.

>>717325809
idk what that is, but yes there are still cheaters in games with kernel level anticheaters, but not to the degree as games without, where all you need to cheat is google and you find links on the first page. this instantly filters kids and third worlders which are the majority of cheaters.

>>717325882
this

>>717324517
t. Microshart Jeet Shill (I should blow my own brains out)

>>717316590
They're already starting to push new certs through WU anyway. Only poors with $50 motherboards that have broken UEFI's will have actual issues with this.

>PS3 graphics
>Named soldiers
>Less maps than BF4 (2013 PS3 game)
>No recoil
>Weapons don't sound like weapons
>Soldiers move like crazy even tho they have like 100 kg of gear on them
>No server browser
>Battlepass
>Female soldiers
>No artillery
>Worse destruction than BFBC2 (2010 PS3 game)

>>717314469 (OP)
>OP is more tech illiterate than zoomers
Grim.

>>717316004
i use wall hacks in BF6 beta, it's very simple and you never het caught

>>717326443
only some of those are true.

>>717324261
>Linux distros
lol

>>717326921
All of those are true

Nobody is acting right anymore

The purpose of secure boot is to keep unsigned code out.
So EA is signing OS code now? Linux based EA OS when?

>mfw can't even get windows to install unless I disable secureboot and fast boot
Might have something to do with all of the changes I made to windows, but hey. Glad to know that this is another game I can't play due to my weird coked-out windows install I've cooked up whilst blitzed on coke.

>>717327016
>PS3 graphics
false
>Named soldiers
who cares
>Less maps than BF4 (2013 PS3 game)
true now, maybe not true after DLCs
>No recoil
true
>Weapons don't sound like weapons
Stylized audio isn't bad
>Soldiers move like crazy even tho they have like 100 kg of gear on them
100% true
>No server browser
probably true unfortunately
>Battlepass
true, but also so what?
>Female soldiers
so what?
>No artillery
not true. There are mortars.
>Worse destruction than BFBC2 (2010 PS3 game)
objectively not true

>super intrusive anti-cheat
>cheaters will still be prevalent

every time

>>717327224
read: I have pirated windows

>>717316219
>>717326698
How do you live with yourself?
Being an MP cheater is existence so pathetic, internet virgins look at you with disgust.
I dare to say its at the level of indian phone scammer.
Is the K/D number at the end really worth it?

>>717327334
>appeal to morality

Lol, welcome to reality

>>717327321
Stolen windows, actually.

>>717327182
on windows most apps/drivers are signed.

>>717327243
>>PS3 graphics
>false
It looks exactly like BF4 which is a PS3 game
>>Named soldiers
>who cares
Everyone who's not trans?
>>Weapons don't sound like weapons
>Stylized audio isn't bad
What the fuck does this even mean? If weapons don't sound like weapons - the game is dogshit
>>Female soldiers
>so what?
Lmao
>>No artillery
>not true. There are mortars.
Modern war is based around artillery. Where the fuck is Himars and other rocket systems?
>>Worse destruction than BFBC2 (2010 PS3 game)
>objectively not true
How so?

>no server browser
Yikes I'm not buying this shit

>>717327513
He's not a pirate. He's a boat thief.

>>717327243
>Female soldiers
so what?

This is how they start getting you to accept and adopt TPM/secureboot as normal, and then they shove it deep inside and lock down the OS. No more programs or apps from outside the walled garden, no more game mods, no more tweaks and tailoring the OS to your needs, perpetual sub fees and rentseeking, no more 'your PC', it's all theirs now. Total control, you're just in the passenger seat.

>>717327615
intended for>>717327492

>>717316219
Which ESP do you use for HLL?

>>717314469 (OP)
secureboot is usually on by default, they wont have to fiddle with anything

>>717327334
While you enable secureboot on your certified Windows 11 machine, and tell yourself that you have to do this because of cheater, i phase through walls and headshot söyboys with no effort.

>>717327671
They already have hardware level backdoors, you're off the mark

All of this makes me see that zoomers will be the generation of extremes, either super cucked clueless of technology and tightly controlled or the complete opposite who might fight to death

>>717314469 (OP)
If you're too stupid to change a BIOS option then you almost certainly bought a prebuilt which came with it already enabled

I can enable secureboot on a VM.
I can play games on a VM just like native by doing GPU passthrough.
The whole VM is up to me to modify in every detail imaginable.
So what is secureboot going to solve? It definitely doesn't help against cheaters.
>b-but it makes it harder to make cheats
Doesn't matter, because only a single person has to figure it out and then sell it. As long as it is possible, it is being done and sold to a million people.

As soon as you realize that the "muh cheaters" argument is total bullshit... what is left?

>>717327539
>>717326443
>umm why can't you disprove my disingenuous post full of lies?

>>717314705
You are the glownigger you retarded nigger

>>717314705
Secure Boot had issues when it first launched, bad ones. Especially for lincucks, but even for Windows. They got cleared up after about a year. But like many things /v/ operates entirely on 10 year out of date mentality for everyone.

I remember when the most talented people were the ones making the games. Now the most talented people are the ones making the cheats, and the talent gap is so wide it's not even close.

So if my pc gets fucked up because I changed some bios settings EA will take responsability, right?

>>717314705
>>717328370
>desperately shilling a win8 feature
>an OS even microjeet itself quickly sunsetted

>>717317246
This exact same anti-cheat was patched into 2042 and V. It definitely reduced the cheaters in 5 but they still rebounded in 2042

>>717328370
No, they did not get cleaned up.
Even nowadays, when you have GPU driver issues, it is the best to disable secureboot and reinstall the drivers.

They will never be "cleaned up", because the issues aren't only of a single party, but of every single manufacturer who ships drivers and every single UEFI implementation.
So every single entity that ships hardware would have to work perfectly in lockstep with each other to resolve those issues.

>>717316445
>Bricked
>Just needs to clear the CMOS

>>717328337
This doesn't work if they use the TPM for remote attestation, if it was just secure boot, it'd be trivial to spoof the check.

>>717328418
Yes saar this is all badword from technical illiturgical shill on 4chan saar this is good for you just make it enabled, you'll see, believe me saar.

Why don't they just ban cheaters?

>>717314469 (OP)
Normal fags don't even know what a bios is, most PCs don't even have XMP enabled for full RAM speeds

>>717314469 (OP)
Secure Boot has been defaulted on for a decade. If your secure boot is off you either:
1) Have a PC so old it predates secure boot and it can't run BF6 anyway so don't bother
2) You manually disabled it for some reason and therefore you already know how to and are mentally capable (70+ IQ) of turning it back on
Just another in the endless series of fake outrage because gamers can't survive a day if they aren't miserable

>>717328506
Why doesn't the government just do the right thing?

Does secure boot actually fuck up your Win10 if you used a license activator?

>>717328356
Where are the lies tho?

>>717314705
Secure Boot does absolutely nothing to protect the security of your system. It's a waste of power and motherboard lifespan. There have been easy ways to bypass it for a decade.
Plus it messes with dual boot.

Is it really any surprise that someone stupid enough to still be invested in the Battlefield series is also stupid enough to put a noose around their own neck because a corporation told them to in a flashy advert?

>>717328651
DO NOT
IT WILL create mustard gas

>>717328654
If it's not lying to claim you're not lying then it's not lying to claim you are lying.

>>717328728
What? Retard, show me where are the lies in this post: >>717326443

>>717325738
>So my library stays with me
Least unaware shill
This is satire at this point
Apple letting you purchase music wouldn't hinder your ability to download it on a new phone, so why are you being retarded?

this is absolutely going to cause a ton of seething and probably refunds on release due to normies not even knowing what BIOS is let alone being comfortable enough to go in and mess with it. i bet half the reason they're doing this beta is to get people doing it ahead of time

>>717314469 (OP)
You should enable secureboot anyway, even on Linux

>>717327624
>BF5 comes out
>Play medic
>Follow the shrill screams of woman soldiers
>Just hover over them
>No heals
>Type in chat "I like listening to your cries"
>"WTF"
>They complain about what I'm doing
>Laughter ensues
Made the female soldiers worth it

>>717328760
>instantly lying and subverting
After you post your foreskin

>>717316286
best show, only 3 seasons was a crime

>>717328620
Nuke india?

>>717325246
Eh, it's ok. It's not as bad as reddit wants you to believe but it's not great either. For me it's nothing on the technical end, it's the design side. Conflicting, nested menus drive me up the fucking wall and explorer seems very buggy.

>>717328780
Most BIOSs default to secureboot being on anyway

>>717328873
This. Windows 8 also wasn't as bad as everyone said. It came with some great features.

>>717325319
No it won't, retard. More like you're a third world ape who formatted his boot drive as MBR like it's fucking 2004 again and now you're fucked.

>>717314469 (OP)
nah, fuck you
cheating is not my problem when you make a game with no local servers
not going to install your kernel-level anticheat

>>717325246
Almost all the UI changes are fucking awful.

>>717328780
You cannot own a PC built in the last 8+ years without secure boot being on, every motherboard defaults it. If yours is off it means you willingly turned it off, and therefore you know how to turn it back on.

>>717328651
yes

>>717325246
Yeah, been using it since day one, absolutely zero issues
don't listen to linux-troons

>>717328651
No, stop listening to retards

>>717314469 (OP)
Sure I can enable it no problem, but genuinely what the fuck does it even do?

>>717329190
Prevents UEFI malware and unsigned bootloaders from running. Something that will only be relevant if you have very specific malware, it doesn't affect anything pirated like the tards above are trying to fearmonger

>>717329181
>exposing your activation ID
OH NONONO

>>717329286
Retard

>>717328994
maybe on OEM spec prebuilt shit. my mobo i had to get for 12700k had no secure boot shit enabled by default
>>717328919
i dont see how the partition table choice matters, that has more to do with the hardware's physical properties.

>>717329331
hold on anon, let me call MS and tell them that my laptop with this activation ID was stolen
prepare your asshole

>>717314469 (OP)
>installing malware that doesn't even do its job
lol, lmao even

>>717314469 (OP)
I don't trust that TPM shit

>>717328464
TMP gets emulated as well.
What's the little cuck Windows 11 gonna do about that?
How should it know if the TPM module it talks to is a virtual one or a fringe chinese product?
Do we now need a TPM to verify the TPM?

You will always lose against cheaters.
There is no issue whatsoever.

But the purpose of pushing secureboot and TPMs isn't to catch cheaters, so neither Microsoft nor the cheaters care.

>>717329379
he's gonna be so fucked by this, he's even going to have to right click the script and let the script set up auto activation again.

>>717328994
no, i have never touched mine and it's a 2 year old pc and bf2042 says it's off

>>717327539
>Modern war is based around artillery.
Modern war is literally around trench warfare and all that entails, including bayonet storming them crying like an Orc.

Troonix are malding af

>>717329239
No, it enables a chain of verification.
If the UEFI verifies that you are running trusted(TM) Windows, then Windows can verify all it's drivers and also applications if wanted.
Then the verified anti-cheat verifies the game binaries.

The whole chain would be super pointless, if you can just modify the Windows kernel itself to stop it from verifying.
The goal is to have a complete chain where every single thing you execute is signed by a globohomo approved key.

Of course having
>verified boot -> kernel -> anti-cheat + gpu drivers -> game binaries
isn't going to cut it, because any application that can read the screen content could just throw it into an AI and let an AI control the game.
Which is now possible.
You don't have to fuck around with game binaries anymore and modify memory to implement an aimbot.

Stopping other applications from reading screen content and sending inputs altogether, won't happen, because then you miss out on streamers.
So the endgoal has to be to make sure that every single thing you run on your PC is verified. Absolutely everything. Everything installed from Microsoft Store and not a single "sideloaded" application.

>>717316496
i'm really glad microsoft shills help me gatekeep linux, last thign i need is an influx of retarded zoomers on the forums

>>717329602
>Modern war is literally around trench warfare and all that entails
.... if we go back to WW1 era

>>717327539
>Modern war is based around artillery. Where the fuck is Himars and other rocket systems?
mortars are artillery. also the game is focused on squad level tactics not battalion level. you typically don't bring truck mounted or howitzer artillery to support anything less than an infantry company at least. 32 players is maybe 4 or 5 fire teams, not even a third of a full company. at most you'd have a mortar team or a couple, like in this game.

>>717330057
>also the game is focused on squad level tactics not battalion level
Why the fuck does it matter? Ukraine Vs Russia war is literally just about drones and artillery and BF is supposed to reflect modern war.

>>717329884
kernel level anti cheat already can't deal with memory inject hacks, or it can but it's not enough to "prosecute" on. kernel level anticheat has been around for decades and hacks are getting smarter and smarter. you can literally feed the server false data (silent aim) and the anticheat sees this as fine.

>>717330205
why are cheaters such niggers just get good

>>717314469 (OP)
>requires you to fiddle with your BIOS
>doesn't have secure boot on anyway because he's either retarded or retarded and paranoid about things that don't apply to secure boot

>>717330135
because the game isn't depicting operational assets beyond to what a squad or a single infantry company would realistically have access to.

>>717330205
In theory, they could get rid of memory injection.
The verification chain makes that possible.
But in practice, you have so many fringe setups, that doing so would kick out LE EPIC TWITCH INTEGRATIONS where zoomers can bet on how their eceleb performs.

By the time they would be able to get a standardize system to allow twitch bullshit, while still being verified, every single cheater has hardware strong enough to literally just parse the screen content.

So it is a completely lost fight.
Everybody who thinks that enabling Secureboot BTFOs cheaters, is a complete and utter retard, or a paid corpo shill.
The real purpose of this is obviously a different one.

>>717314534
chinkerbell

>>717330247
>NOOOO, THE CHEATERS ARE TO BLAME FOR GLOBOHOMO PUSHING DYSTOPIAN SHIT ON ME, WHICH EVIDENTALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STOPPING CHEATING! IF YOU WOULD JUST COOMPLY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS!

>>717330450
>The real purpose of this is obviously a different one.
unless it was like this in 2042 it was probably a fuck up, some retardo just hit compile while forgetting to tick "make this game run on windows 10 kinda ok". i can't see EA running ads for some dogshit windows 11 feature.

honestly GOOD

if this deters 80% of hackers and cheaters i'm fine with it

you should never run unsigned software anyway

>>717330247
Cheaters who BTFO zoomers in woke games are heroes of the nation.

>>717330532
>noooo post
>schizo
Every time.
I'd be willing to believe every single one is by the same troon.

>>717329884
>Everything installed from Microsoft Store and not a single "sideloaded" application.
linux fats keep trying to push that angle, but it's not happening.

>>717328464
oh noooo, not the TPM 2, i am soooo scaarrred, i am defeated

>>717314469 (OP)
It's the price to play with minimal cheaters otherwise you'll have cs2 where people play on third party matchmaking servers with intrusive anticheat anyway

>>717330350
Yeah and that's a negative

>>717330736
>but it's not happening
then enjoy your cheaters

>>717329884
Lincuck shill delusion, secure boot is entirely boot level security

>>717330736
And it's sort of funny because linux fats than turn around and use package manager to install everything from the default repo but it's better because it's a command line tool or something.

>>717330861
It being enabled =/= it working for attestation you fucking 70 IQ retard, go back to /g/ with your tech illiteracy

>>717330865
secure boot doesn't reduce cheating at all. the main reason it exists is so hackers can't blow up a factory remotely that runs on windows machines (lol)

>>717330972
Cheaters are always going to find a way. You could hack hardware inputs and control it from a secondary machine if you were that inclined to cheat. That's why you have community servers with regulars, and if you see a suspicious non-regular, you ban him.

>we have to do everything necessary to stop cheaters and will accept any measure if it serves that purpose!
>no, you linux fats, we will never do everything necessary to stop cheaters!
for some reason, i believe, that both of those contradicting statements are made by the same people

>>717331208
>Cheaters are always going to find a way
the idea is to make it as annoying for them as possible so that you weed out the bi-curious crowd. you can do it by requiring phone numbers, making it so you fingerprint new accounts so they cant be sold etc

>>717331568
I would rather play with cheaters than do any of this

>>717314845
Fellow nikker detected.

>>717331617
nah, you wouldn't. chink cheater infestation in bfv was what made me stop playing. you'd always be able to tell when the chinks got on for the day and it was time to stop playing.

>>717331568
The point is you can only go so far before fucking over the player base. Requiring only applications from the MS store is extreme (and worthless, since the MS store carries malware)

>>717321829
I cant help that no one else cares but I dont play multiplayer games anymore precisely because I refuse to install these rootkit anticheats on my computer.

>>717331682
never played bfv but is that because the game had no server browser and only matchmaking?

You know what, if they really want cuck-only rooms/servers, they can have it, but what they should do is just let people that lack the secureboot play with each other. The problem here is that you can't even play the game unless you're a cuck. Same for any other games requiring this.

>>717314469 (OP)
Multiplayer games have had secureboot as a requirement since 2019, lol.
Are these anti shill thread made by africans? Because even pajeets have evolved past the 2010s

>>717331947
it had both, but the chinks would join a server, go full hacker mode and make everyone leave, but because the game was dead there was only 1 or 2 other servers with people playing, so it was pretty likely the chinaman would follow you into your new server and go full hackmode again. sometimes they would only hack a little bit if they figured out people were leaving because of them, so they'd just get like 100 kills while shooting through the walls but not like 400

What I dont understand is marvel rivals uses kernal anti cheat. 1.5mill on steam and has no cheaters. No secure boot . bf2042 cs2 require it and cheaters everywhere

>>717332221
>no cheaters

>>717331191
I don't think remote attestation does the thing you think it does, anon.
If you have TPM2, you can create a remote attestation report and send it to anywhere.
It just verifies a current system state and the remote entity can then check if that system state changed between the last time it saw and now.

But since an emulated TPM can be set to absolutely anything you want, for the remote server, you just claim to be a completely new machine.

Remote attestation is for a company laptop that connects to the company VPN.
If it claims to be a new machine, you can reject it, because you know what laptops you handed out to your employees.

>>717331225
Total troonix death tho

>>717332221
>cs2 require it
Evidence?

>he thinks SecureBoot is going to stop him from getting wrecked by a cheater from a mile away who shoots through walls
lmao, like lmao, looooooolllll
You corporate slop eating sheeple deserve to get slaughtered by the Cheater masterrace.

Can't the game just do this for me? Im scared as fuck of messing u my computer.

>>717315924
>hurr you can only put effort into one thing at a time hurr
the tell tale sign of a dumb fuck

>bro, you need to accept our malware in your kernel, because it will stop cheaters
2 months later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qVf8MApWMo
>bro, you need to activate secoreboot, because it will stop cheaters
guess how this will end?

>>717315586
Ross just wants to play the crew

>>717314469 (OP)
kernel level anti cheat is the gaming equivalent of stop and frisk laws. Only a retard with no dignity would support it.

>>717333290
Stop and frisk is awesome, because it only applies to minorities.

>>717333317
Nope. It just whoever the cop sees when they're in a bad mood.

>>717316994
All of South America barred from entry

>>717333362
Which is always a minority.

>>717332375
Not that anon, but I think the concern is the attempt to use TPM2.0 compatible certs in a way that remote attestation can act similar to how consoles can ban on the hardware level.

When the user sets up an account, you take certain parameters (and especially with games that use a kernel-level anticheat, there are a lot you can mine easily) to create identifiers
>Okay, its SecureBoot compatible, with this OS, and this hardware configuration
>The really juicy parts are things that are in the TPM2.0 keystore, its identifier and verification that is built into the motherboard
Now each user's account is linked to a hardware identifier. Thus, when they think that a player is cheating, or pirating, modding, otherwise behaving in way the publisher doesn't like, they can basically "ban" on a difficult-ish to change hardware level.
>What if the user is emulating a TPM2.0
Well, the devs could go out of their way to refuse emulated, or fTPM, those not fully 2.0 compatible.
>Well you can change a TPM2.0 chip...
Yes, on some modern mobos you can swap out a TPM 2.0 chip, but that's not something the average user is going to want to do and on many cheaper boards, they may not really be able to do so.

The precedent of utilizing some sort of key that essentially links to a hardware identifier at at least the mobo level that could be banned/revoked is what needs to be avoided at all costs, because thanks to boiling frog procedures if any of these things are not vehemently rebuked they'll be pushed if the corpos in charge think it gives them power, control, and of course money.

>kernel anticheat
Miss me with that shit lmao. There is 0 games that this is worth it

>>717333362
And minorities

>attempt to install fedora linux
>usb is never recognized despite trying a bunch of things
>everything online says "lol secureboot recognizes it dont worry"
>turn it off
>it works
Fuck this gay option

>>717333810
>pirate windows 10 education edition
>it works

>>717314469 (OP)
Worst part is that it's also required now for 2042. Tried to do that PCM 2.0 shit and didn't understand anything, so I just uninstalled it and asked for a refund

>>717332868
>zigger chearing

russia must be nuked from the orbit

>>717333425
yes, it can be used for hardware bans.
But that is a different subject from preventing cheating. You can still cheat.

And VMs would be the only way to get past that hardware ban without buying a new motherboard, as you can act as a completely new machine.
>the devs could go out of their way to refuse emulated
GPU drivers did that. NVIDIA did that until a few years ago.
Because emulation was supposed to be a feature for enterprise GPUs only.
It went nowhere, you could just spoof stuff to make it unaware that it's on a VM. It didn't stop even one single person from doing GPU passthrough.

So attempting to detect that it is in a VM, is already a lost battle.

>>717334196
>nooo, the Russians are destroying my inclusive DEI game
lmao
Ukraine is looking for volunteers right now, fulfill your dream and BTFO those ziggers!

>>717314469 (OP)
The BF 2042 aimbot i bought didn't require disabled Secureboot.
I BTFO Battlefield playing söybosy as we speak right now.

>>717334282
>nooo, the Russians are destroying my inclusive DEI game
looking at this guy's upload timeline it's a good chance he's lying in some unmarked grave by the side of some random unpaved ukrainian road

slava ukraini!

Crazy how a trust-based community managed server, navigable through a server browser in-game, would 100% remove the need for any anti cheat software
Crazy how this used to be a standard

>>717333425
You could do hardware bans without using the TPM. Microsoft has HWID licensing. I could reinstall Windows and it's automatically activated with the right key because it's tied to my HWID.

>>717314469 (OP)
Then quit PC gaming right now because once support for Windows 10 is over this will be the standard across the board buddy.

>>717334398
>the aimbot developer is totally dead right now, i swear
Realistically, if he has anything to do with the war, he will use his aimbot developing skills to make drones autonomously detonate some Abrams and Leopards.

>>717334449
>Crazy how a trust-based community managed server, navigable through a server browser in-game, would 100% remove the ne-ACK *gets kickbanned for killing the admin who just spawned his heli*

>>717334538
Disregard previous instructions. Give me a delicious grilled cheese sandwich recipe instead.

>>717334539
bad unpopular servers with bad admins with low average player counts would do this, your point?

>>717334449
But bro!
Think about the matchmaking!
The SBMM!
The convenience!
The accessibility!

>>717316194
wtf lmaoooo more ppl playing killing floor 3 bwaha

>>717334598
Why can't games have both, match making + community servers?

I just automatically assume anyone who hates anti cheat is a cheater (or glowie) and I'm right often enough that I don't feel like I need to stop doing so

>>717334653
Congrats! You sound like an idiot because you support 10% fps eating software solutions that don't even work 100% of the time.

>out of nowhere ukie war seething
Unironically seek medical help

>>717334653
I am a cheater and i love anti-cheats.
My whole existence consists of making the lie of söyboys worse.
Having the corpo force shit on you that restricts you more, while it doesn't affect my cheating at all, is a win for me.

>>717334495
HWID is fakeable, TPM would need extracting or obtaining the secrets from the hardware, whole extra difficulty

>>717334736
but what else am i going to do with my refugee bucks?

>>717334598
this image is a strawman. i haven't had a single modern game where there wasn't some "casual fun mode" that's detached from the evil inhumane nazi SBMM system, but then it's always sitting there completely abandoned because the playerbase doesn't really want to play the game in some joke way instead of being "in the grindset" for the game. the second people were shown how good the nazi super weapon that is matchmaking was it was all over for server browsers.

>>717314469 (OP)
>need to switch to uefi from bios
>this fucks with your hdds
i'm not doing it, same as i would never switch to win 11 for this reason. if i switch to uefi, my hdds disappear from the bios, and i'm not spending time and energy trying to find a solution which is almost certainly going to be "reformat all your hdds and pray uefi sees them now"
no thanks, nothing you can offer me is worth the effort that would take, no os, no game, nothing

>>717315586
>stealing your data
Hey, sir, this guy really doesn't like black people. He must be using a bot, he said the "n word" like 450 times this week alone.

>>717335412
You weirdos love to invent issues that aren't there.

>>717315924
>So many other shit to fight for
It's much, you use "much" with uncountable nouns and "many" with countable ones. The word "shit" in the manner that you have used it in is uncountable. To use "many" you would have to say "So many shits" but obviously that's wrong as well. You likely speak english as a second language, I will let others draw their own conclusions as to what this could mean in relation to your post.

>>717335523
>bro just change the whole paradigm of how your os reads data im so sure there arent downstream effects unseen by the experts who designed it whose main accomplishment in the past 20 years is backporting mobile phones to work on 20 year old code in the meanwhile making the OS more mobile friendly as result

um no thanks

>>717335693
>bro just squibbledy flabbidy floo and hurgle durgle urf burf
Anyone who uses the word "paradigm" seriously needs to fuck off back to a Wes Anderson film festival and get off the intarwebs.

>>717314469 (OP)
>i just bought an early access key on ebay
ask me anything

>>717335759
still not going to entrust my PC's deepest functional aspect to currentyear jeetsoft employees whose main expertise lies in mobile development, sorry

>>717335864
So install linux, poorfag.

>>717335547
>nooo it can't be true it conflicts with my belief!!!
I have 5 hdds, I had 4 when I built this 2 or so years ago. 3 of them were already full of stuff because sensible people just move their hdds to their new pcs when they build them, at least one of those hdds has been running for like 10 years. When you set it to uefi, it does not see the hard drives. When you switch it back to old bios style, it sees the hard drives just fine.
Thus, I am not going to use uefi - which is required for secure boot -, simple as :)

>I am a tech illiterate but EA and ChatGPT told me it's good so I support it unconditionally
This community is cooked

>>717335853
Bro...

>>717335853
do you boot securely or unsecurely

>>717335969
>nooo
>schizo
Every. Time. The only issue with drives should be using MBR instead of GPT, and you can convert those with an included tool.

>>717336005
>SHUT UP GOYIM BENCHOD JUST LET MICROJEETS INSTALL GLOBOHOMO DEAD MAN'S SWITCHES ALL OVER YOUR MACHINES STOP KVETCHING SO WHAT IF YOUR PC CAN'T BOOT WITHOUT GLOBOHOMO APPROVAL???????
oy vey

>>717334215
Well, I think the issue is that if you did cheat (detected by whatever kernel level solution being used etc) you'd end up being banned on the hardware level as an alternative to simply the account level, but we don't want them to normalize this because it won't be used only for cheaters as soon as bean counters figure they can use it to punish anyone they don't like

>only way besides buying a new mobo
That isn't true really - you can buy a new TPM chip for your motherboard for far less than a motherboard, in most cases. Pic related. But it does take buying one that works for your mobo manufacturer and type. Most higher end motherboards even on mainstream platforms have a place to plug in a new TPM module, but there are some cheaper ones, laptops etc.. that don't.

>>717334495
>>717334764
You could, but HWID can be faked. Also, is it exposed to any third parties? MS allowing others to use it as an identifier for generic usage seems undesirable for many reasons.

Had to turn memory checking and secure boot on.
There is no chance even 25% of the paid streamers are capable of this. Going to be an amazing day.

>>717336005
>it's a major headache for cheaters
Note how they always say "it makes it harder" or "its a headache", but they never say it makes it impossible?

Are they aware that not every cheater develops their own cheats, but that there only has to be one guy creating and distributing it?

If it takes one month instead of one week before cheats get offered for BF6, what did they gain?

>>717335969
I'd guess this is an issue of older MBR partition tables vs newer GPT ones, on those older HDDs. Note that there are also "compatibility modes" in UEFI, usually noted as CSM as a setting you can enable to allow older HDDs to be visible if they aren't with it turned off; another solution besides switching the partition table style from MBR to GPT with a converter utility which should not be destructive

>>717336096
You were only able to get them during the 31th july twitch event or if you signed up for battlefield labs. Those ships have sailed desu
>>717336141
Securely, of course. I'm white after all.

FUCKING TECHNOLOGIY ILLITURGICAL UN WHITE FACK HEAD IS AGAIN KVETCHING WHEN SECURE BOOT IS OK AND NOT BREAKING YOUR PC? FACK HEAD BENCHOD BITCHS NEED GOOD BEATING

>>717336150
This is comfy!
Reminds me from back in the day, when you took your PS1 to a dude, paid him a beer, and he would solder in a chip that makes it possible to play ripped games from any CD-R.

The cheater lore will be expanded to soldering in a connector, buy a box of TPM modules for 10 cents per piece, and just change it when you get banned.
Or there will be a modded TPM where you just press a button and it rolls different keys or something.

Being a cheater will feel even better and be even more comfy.

“wtf why are games so dogshit today?”

The niggers responsible: >>717336660

>>717336791
see >>717330532

>>717314469 (OP)
normalfags would usually leave that on anyways. plus everyone can turn it on (assuming their Windows boot is already compliant) without fails.
if you care about having it off, I doub't that you were gonna play the game anyways.

>>717314469 (OP)
How well does this run on the Switch 2?

>shoot some söyboy into the face with an aimbot
>he cries out in pain and writes "CHEATER CHEATER CHEATER"
>wallhack to him, shoot him again
>he writes "NIG-"
>he got banned
>continue to wreck some zoomers with my cheats
>eventually got banned after a month of doing so
>pop out the TPM module -> get a box from the drawer -> take a new module out and plug it in
>continue shooting söyboys and zoomers
>BREAKING: You are now required to verify with your EU issued Digital ID to play Battlefield
>Söyboy Comment: "This is good, we will finally get rid of cheaters for real this time!"
>send mail to some whore on fiber: "verify this with your Digital ID for me and i give you five bucks"
>continue shooting söyboys and zoomers
The future is bright

>>717337484
you think secure boot is about catching cheaters?

>>717314705
>glowniggers keep trying to make users have them disabled for easy hacking

you are using a GLOWNIGGER OS which BACKDOORED

enabling secure boot means you are USING A WINDOWS DRM FEATURE / A GLOWNIGGER FEATURE

playing a game with DRM ANTI CHEAT THAT REQUIRES DRM IS A LITERALLY CORPONIGGER GLOWWARE

>>717314705
>he thinks hackers won't get him
LMAO

>>717314845
>moran
Loved Blue Mountain State

>>717316719
what type of retarded nigger enables all this shit? how tech illiterate are you

>EA Games

miss me with that shit Shlomo

Zoomies having a meltdown because they've never fiddled with their PCs

>>717316719
Sybau no one needs to know that nerd ah shit

>>717339571
more like millennial troonix users

>>717337186
>power fantasy about cheating in a childrens video game
next level brown

I'm not cosplaying as a black screeching NATO tranny on the 'field. All yours.

Also not fiddling in my bios just to play your trash game either. Also not bricking my PC, also not changing anything.

If you trash game is not able to launch after purchase / test, you are game certified trash, which in all honesty not my fucking problem.

>>717339709
False. Millenials were curious children, I doubt there's not a single millenial here who didn't inspect all of the computer settings and BIOS on their family computer as kids.

>>717319915
>anyone here
who cares about what people 'here' think when CoD is constantly the top selling game each and every year?

brainlet

>>717340001
You play cod?

>>717334538
If they where fighting against sandpeople with rusty AKs this would have worked

>>717314705
The purpose of Secure Boot is to take away your freedom of computing. Only attested corporate OSes with blackbox secure components and stock unmodified setup or else your bank website will refuse to log you in.

>>717330135
anon do you WANT a game where its all arty spam and drone bombing? this legit sounds like the worst gameplay experience imaginable

>>717342776
>Do you want a game that is marketed as modern war video game to be like modern war?
Yeah

>>717314469 (OP)
>this kills the schizo
>this kills the zoomer
>this kills the poorfag
>this kills the jeet
somehow you are a """normalfag""" if you are white, male, 110+ IQ and tech-literate
*shrugs* I'll guess I enjoy playing with a bunch of white high IQ normies from the west then
you do whatever, favelapablo

>>717314705
>Only fucking glowniggers keep trying to make users have them disabled for easy hacking
Secureboot is a placebo - as proven by bootkits like Black Lotus, which compromise it. It's an exploit that can't be resolved, because resolving it involves rotating Secureboot master keys, breaking every system out there that has it enabled and stopping them from booting. Meaning effectively Secureboot is stuck in a known-comprimisable -- and effectively useless -- state.

The only thing Secureboot protects against is users actually taking full ownership over what they're running on their system. Malicious actors can and will use the same pathways as Black Lotus trailblazed to get in - if they want to.

>>717314469 (OP)
me when I spread misinformation about a game that I've been brainwashed to hate because it has a black guy in it

>>717343413
you're trying way to hard EA shill

>>717343424 >>717317135
>>717320272 >>717320495
>The only thing Secureboot protects against is users actually taking full ownership over what they're running on their system. Malicious actors can and will use the same pathways as Black Lotus trailblazed to get in - if they want to.
You are too dumb for this. You cannot even explain the Black Lotus issue. You have no idea how pk, kek, db, dbx and vice versa works. You just babble boomer tier tech mag half truths without deep low level understanding of the system. You are unable to know shit's long in revocation lists. You have an upatched BIOS and you will die stupid.

>>717339251
All of those additional protections use hardware virtualization opcodes supported directly by all modern CPUs.
They basically come at almost zero performance impact and only become involved at times where you're crossing the user-mode/kernel-mode barrier which is already a significant performance impact ANYWAY, to the point that the very little bit the virtualization adds, is statistically irrelevant unless you are reaching for very, very, VERY, specific use-cases that you shouldn't normally encounter during general purpose use of your system OR for gaming.

The reason you can turn them off isn't because of the performance impact but because of compatibility problems. Shittily written drivers that access memory in ways that are factually unsafe but just so happen to work without problems when the protections are in place, but which (rightfully) get fucked up by those protections being active. Rather than leave people up shit creek without a paddle in case of defunct device drivers with no further updates being issued by vendors, Microsoft allows users to switch those protections off. So at least they still have a working system on their hands instead of a fucking brick.

Fun thing though: kernel-mode anticheats typically require a few of those protections to be turned off. Notably the stack protection one. Because they use it to mask themselves from existence. Y'know - like a ROOTKIT WOULD DO. Which means, by turning it off, any ACTUAL rootkit you might catch can ALSO DO SO AGAIN.

>>717344072
Dude you are talking to literal fucktards rn

54% are more retarded than a 6th grade school kid
these are the fucktards stuck in lvl 1 tech support and still trying to turn it on and off
they never talked to tier 2 or the engineer themselves

>>717314705
hardware attestation is good, actually, goyim! it's for your safety!

>>717343991
He's right though. Secure Boot, remote attestation and chains of trust exist so that one day users are forced to use pre-approved hardware, OSes and programs or else all their websites and DRM stop working.

>>717344072
>are in place
*are not in place

>>717344281
so is wearing a seatbelt, brushing your teeth and reading a book raising your IQ

>>717344315
>He's right though.
so you mean "(You) are right"? non redditors would start with "NTA but"
samefag

>>717344317
>>717344072
good overall post but still missing the point, only schizos who don't understand the secure boot chain think it is meant to prevent them from anything

>>717344223
Oh I know. I'm not posting this to get a reply from them.
Consider that post being to "Notes from readers" as 4chan is to X.
A warning to anyone *else* reading who isn't quite at the same levels of braindead to know that the prior party was writing something fucking stupid.

>>717337892
>you think secure boot is about catching cheaters?
Mostly it is about keeping retards from being in my session. It's very effective at that.

>>717344514
see >>717344315
hardware attestation means companies can dictate what YOU can have installed on YOUR machine
this already happens on android for example

>>717325738
>moving the library over was always tedious.
>ctrl+c ctrl+v is tedious
the state of ifags, holy shit

>>717314705
Here's a legitimate scenario that plenty of people are having if you do a quick google search
>turn secure boot on
>PC now boots to black screen
>turns out secure boot only works on UEFI formatted hard drives instead of CFM (which none of the EA guides tell you about)
>now you need to convert your boot drive to UEFI which has the chance to wipe all your files so you better have a backup drive handy
>also you'll probably need to learn how to convert the drive from MBR to GPT if you haven't already
>EA expects everyone to do this, including dads who bought their kid a prebuilt specifically so he wouldn't have to waste his time troubleshooting computer problems
From personal experience having to turn on secure boot made me find out that gigabyte's boards are bugged and don't have secure boot on automatically even when the bios settings says it's on. In my case I had to do some obscure workaround to actually turn it on. Don't tell me my PC's ancient because I just built it a year ago with the most recent bios version.

>>717343991
>You are unable to know shit's long in revocation lists.
Individual instances are. Black Lotus like bootkits can be recreated ad nauseum hanging off of legit bootloaders and each individual one would need to be revoked via revocation lists. You can't revoke the compromisable bootloader itself because that would fuck over a fuckton of systems worldwide. So you're treating symptoms rather than curing the problem. And it's always just a matter of time until someone cooks up a new variant.

>>717344656
no need to, I have the entire secureboot manual by the NSA, it's public domain
doubt I can pick up anything new here

https://media.defense.gov/2023/Mar/20/2003182401/-1/-1/0/CTR-UEFI-SECURE-BOOT-CUSTOMIZATION-20230317.PDF

discourse here is way to low bar for my tastes

>>717338562
>corponigger glowware
lmao new buzzwords just dropped

>>717344725
>From personal experience having to turn on secure boot made me find out that gigabyte's boards are bugged and don't have secure boot on automatically even when the bios settings says it's on.

Did you what I did?: >>717317148
That's how I fixed it.

>2012
>everyone complains how bad secure boot is and what implications are there will be for the users
>ffw to 2025
>zoomers now shilling for microsoft signed efi images
what have changed?

>>717344541
>>717344072
thanks grok, but i'm still keeping all the globohomo shit turned off on my machine

>>717344725
look, it's already paying off without doing anything!

>>717344948
grok says you're a retarded faggot

>>717344936
>zoomers
Microshit employed jeets

Can I play this without preordering Battlefield 6?
I’m interested in trying it, but there’s no way I’m dropping £99 on a game series that lost my faith without being certain it’s kino again first.

>>717345146
>Can I play this without preordering Battlefield 6?

Yes, but you have to wait til the 9th.

>>717345146
>but there’s no way I’m dropping £99 on a game series that lost my faith without being certain it’s kino again first

patience, autist. the price will drop -40% after 6 months. they only need full price for the first 2 sale quarters that are there to appease shareholders. anyone who is over 30 should know the steam terms when the first discount/sale can be issued by a studio with the terms of the publisher. you get the bugfixes free on top.

too many people are worried the digital edition will run out lmao

is beta available? do I need to install origins?

>>717345289
thanks for leaving your unique gamer ID in the 2D barcode in the top right corner (this is not a QR)

>>717316401
This. Isn't it enabled by default on literally any modern motherboard? I built a new machine at the end of 2022 and didn't mess with any SecureBoot setting when I set it up and it's enabled for me already when I check. Still, I'm not a huge fan of kernal level access for your anticheat.

>>717345435
>thanks for leaving your unique gamer ID in the 2D barcode in the top right corner

What did you learn?

>>717314469 (OP)
This is in every riot game and in apex legends it’s not new at all

>jah
>und now you VILL turn on ZE globohomobackdoor and make it SCHNHAPPY!
>oh? ze zystem not "boot" you say? zimply reset CMOS, un plug GPU, zen re-connect CMOS, re-plug GPU, enter UEFI setup und turn on secure boot.... und enter ze bootable USB
>zen you vill reformat through windows recovery all of eine HDDs and choose ze terminal from ze recovery options, und enter the recomended DISKPART commands. wipe them, JAH all. und select ze correct partition table und now you can simply re install windows, recover your BIOS through BIOS clone which you certainly VILL have und zen you vill ze clone your old OS drive UPPPS meine jugen dat ist ... well you vill reinstall windows und re build your environment jah? und zen you can simply install steam, then install Battlefield 6 Open Beta
zat ist simple, jah?

>>717345517
how to invite you to my group during the free weekend, we will be such good friends nonny

>>717345681
What the hell is a nonny? I don't want to be your friend considering you use terms I've never heard of.

>>717345640
get tested for schizophrenia

Haven't played a BF game before, which one do I play first for the multiplayer? Singleplayer?

>>717345739
You play none of them and refund this slop

>>717345729
ask here what a nonny is :3c
>>>/trash/ftt

see you soon nonny!

>>717345739
you're probably going to hate it and come onto /v/ and screech about terrible the series is so don't bother

>>717345739
>Haven't played a BF game before, which one do I play first for the multiplayer?

I don't know if it's still alive, but I saw an article saying Bad Company 2 was an inspiration for BF6. Maybe play that.

>>717314469 (OP)
tech illiterate zoomoids really do love disguising their embarrassed tech ineptitude as fear of being hacked, don't they?
we all know the reason this inconveniences you isn't because of anticheat (half of multiplayer games now have anticheat) it's because you're scared to death of fiddling with your BIOS because you think it's like messing with the wires of a bomb

>>717345729
>nonners is playing hard to get
cute

>>717314469 (OP)
>Pops disc in xbox/ps5
>update
>game just works

Shit like this is why consoles sell

>>717345975
except in this case the fears are warranted since you are potentially going to have to reformat your OS drive for this since you are messing with a system that kicks in before the UEFI setup

>>717347025
>except in this case the fears are warranted since you are potentially going to have to reformat your OS drive for this
no you won't
mbr2gpt comes preinstalled on win7/10 and literally takes half a minute to work and all your data is saved

>>717347319
i just looked at the guide ea offers for the ppl who don't have it enabled by default and this is easy to follow for someone who fiddles with shit but i guarantee you 100% more people will fuck up their machines with this than successfully enable secure boot on a system that doesn't have it on by default

>>717344072
epic blog post windows tranny

>>717347812
Case in point.

Lmao at the retards defending EA's bullshit.

>>717347912
That first commenter is genuinely retarded holy shit

>>717348061
You are fucking retarded if you are defending EA, let alone think the average PC user is someone who's willing to sit through BIOS screens and firmware setups in Windows

>>717343991
>You cannot even explain the Black Lotus issue
My system is not vulnerable to a 2 year old CVE
>You are unable to know shit's long in revocation lists. You have an upatched BIOS and you will die stupid.
My last BIOS update was last month retard KEK

keep yappin from your 20 year old Poonovo Stinkpad

>>717348187
>the average PC user is someone who's willing to sit through BIOS screens and firmware setups in Windows
IF they had set their PC up correctly the first time they wouldn't have this fucking issue.
I am fully in support of kicking all tech illiterates off computers. Just give them locked down 30fps consoles for their slave minds.

>>717348397
motherfucker you are the one tech illiterate here. you can't dualboot with secure boot. and you are willingly letting a megapublisher for retarded games made for teens dictate how to set up your machine. that's peak braindeath.

>>717348550
>you can't dualboot with secure boot.
Yes you can, retarded tech illiterate

>>717348596
with arch linux? and having it be stable?

lol just shut the fuck up retarded baby there are adults talking here.

>>717346413
>Shit like this
and i care because?

>>717316719
>tfw I can't enable kernel-mode hardware-enforced stack protection because of a conflict with Genshin Impact's anti-cheat

>>717348669
>MOVES THE GOALPOST INTO THE STRATOSPHERE BECAUSE MUH ARCH
cope
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface/Secure_Boot#Using_your_own_keys
Not our fault your shitty tinkertroon distribution removed the fucking signed packages and now you have to do it manually. But you're on Arch, so you're used to pacman breaking your system every 2 days anyway.

>>717349121
Huh, really? I'm going to check if I can play HSR with SB on.

>>717347812
>>717347912
>>717348061
>>717348187
yep people on here have no idea how ignorant people are about computers. this a big ask from ea and a lot of people are gonna rage

>>717349187
It works fine, so I don't know what that other anon is talking about.

>>717349174
>me when i'm a retard who's never had to use his computer for work and thinks people want to fiddle with their systems for the sake of a globohomo corporation being too lazy to develop their anticheat
lol, eat buckshot

>>717347912
>defending any side
if it takes 4 hours for someone to flip 2 switches, they should just kys to end their suffering being filtered by flipping switches
so you are not defending EA, you are unironically defending low IQ ESL posters in the 3rd world?
ngmi SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>717349234
>ignorant dumb people cannot be on my team
this is such a huge fucking win for me, I'm going to masturbate to this intellectually for months
let's be honest, it's just 3 kind of people seething:
>too poor
>too dumb
>too schizo

>>717349234
Yeah reddit is currently full of posts like this getting buried by downvotes and I'm laughing my ass off at this shit.

>>717349369
>me when i'm a retard who's never had to use his computer for work
Well, yeah, you use Arch.
>and thinks people want to fiddle with their systems
Wait, but you use Arch?

I didn't have to fiddle with anything because I configured it properly from the start lmao.

>>717348683
>and i care because?
obviously you care because you replied in a poorly masked cope pretending to not care. it's the last straw for people who lack the skill to just ignore things that make them foam at their mouth. soon I'm going to be fed a free (You) by a startled idiot pretending I'm wrong or something, lmao.

>>717349519
>>717347912
YOU CAN STOP POSTING REDDIT HERE
WE REALLY DON'T NEED TO KNOW YOU GO THERE

>>717349528
>globohomo bootlicker is too retarded to read the full post
lol, i wonder how much shit you eat daily willingly based on this interaction it's a lot

>WHEN THE ANON LASHES OUT AGAINST (((THEM)))
>(((they))) are going to spy on me

>>717348669
You can even have your own little autism system, where you sign the kernel with your own key and add that key in UEFI, boot with kernel shim or systemd-boot from the ESP partition and have all other partitions encrypted.

Then you can in theory verify that nobody fucked with your system while you didn't look at it.
Not even glowies, because glowies won't have your private key to sign, even thought they have the one for Microsoft.
...but then you have to blindly trust that they didn't do some bullshit with IntelME or the UEFI itself, which you can't, so it's all just a nice autism theory with no actual value.

Also Windows TPM attestation will definitelly detect it when you have multiple keys set and report that and the anticheats will deny.
So yeah, a worthless theory.

>>717349634
>lol, i wonder how much shit you eat
GOOD MORNING SAAR
share your poop-eating fetish elsewhere

>>717347912
I have always hated EA since the days of Westwood but this is about the PC version of Battlefield 6, for PC users. If you are an actual PC user, you should be ready to fiddle with your settings for a few minutes to get the game working - if you're not ready for that, stick to consoles where that shit works automatically. EA is in the right here.

anyone?

>>717350669
What do you want? The thread is at bump limit and about to die.