Thread 717314571

It's better than Symphony of the Night

sotn sucks ass so that's not saying much

It was quite fun yeah, but I like SotN's art style and soundtrack more

>>717314571 (OP)
Maybe better on a gameplay level, but less charming overall

SotN had better graphics, story, music, and more polished mechanics in some regards

>>717314571 (OP)
No it's not, but it's a good game regardless of the shit 3D.

I finished it and I wasn't a fan. I've never played a Castlevania before. I just thought it was bad compared to 2D Metroid games I've played.

The endgame and final bosses kinda suck.
But I guess the same goes for SotN

>>717314571 (OP)
SotN is better but RotN will always be my favorite

I like Miriam. She's pretty. :3

>>717314931
This was the first castlevania I played since I started getting into them. Are they all like this?

>>717314571 (OP)
Not really but I liked Bloodstained very much, also Shanoa is far more attractive than Miriam, I'm hoping great things from Bloodstained 2

>>717315412
the aria games are the closest gameplay mechanic wise.

play ender lilies if you want a quality castlevania like

>>717314931
>>717315412
If you played Bloodstained on normal you robbed yourself tbdesu. Hard mode is where the systems truly shine and the fights demand some mechanical skill and strategy.
I started on normal years ago and dropped it at the towers but just ran through it on hard and it was night and day. If you name your save NIGHTMARE you don't have to beat the game to unlock it.

>>717314571 (OP)
>barbeque ribs are better than oatmeal porridge
no way

>>717314571 (OP)
I disagree, bad art direction and bloated gameplay and too many collectibles.

>>717316000
Isn't there like two in this series? Is Ender Lillies the first one? Someone mentioned it and it looked interesting but I want to burn through the first one.

>>717316138
I played Nine Sols on standard mode, is it any harder? The game isn't hard persay but I feel like it's kind of bloated system wise.

>>717314571 (OP)
It's objectively better but people won't acknowledge that because of muh nostalgia. Same way Lies of Pi is objectively better than Bloodborne even though people don't want to admit it.

>>717316791
Yeah, lilies is the first one, ender magnolia is the sequel

>>717314571 (OP)
True. I love both, but I prefer Bloodstained.

>>717314571 (OP)
It was ok. Not nearly as good as people say it is. Heck, I think Mummy Demastered is better.

>>717316860
I've not played Nine Sols but isn't the combat like Sekiro? Idk if they're comparable, but I still wouldn't call it hard just properly balanced.
Bloodstained's hard starts off punishing so it demands better positioning/timing than normal where you can just facetank everything. I felt that hard mode rewarded exploration and gradually experimenting with its systems so it never felt too overbearing.
I had to actually use the loadout system to employ different strategies and tactics to deal with enemies of varying strengths, weaknesses, and movesets, etc. Plus meals were actually worth bothering with now and it's actually fun running around collecting everything with the more lethal combat. Normal almost felt like a chore.

Now that Alucard was retconned into being a faggot yea it's better than Symphony of the Gayzord

>>717314571 (OP)
Hell no this game is so freaking boring! I beat the twin dragon like 4 months ago and quit playing because i got bored going through this boring castle to dead ends. Where do i go next? The castle and designs are shit. Miriam is the only good thing about the game. Curse of the moons were much better and fun.

>>717317539
Yeah I'm not really feeling it so far on normal, which sucks since I actually like everything else so far. I'll try hard mode if it really improves the game.

>>717317736
You shouldn't call yourself out for being a retard like this.

Hitboxes in Bloodstained are fucked. Does not feel good to play at all.

>>717316000
kys that game is garbage.

>>717314571 (OP)
i finish it yesterday and spent most of today farming the yellow shards buffs, it "OK" it had clearly a troublesome development; to explore one zone you need a shard of enemy that if you didn’t know before hand you will just ignore it, one of the most crucial armors is hide in a very obtuse way and the grind could have been easily been tone down a little, it still a 8/10 ion my opinion and an amazing game, I just hope they make the sequel less grindy.
Also any metrodvania recommendation? I hear that blasphemous and ender lili are very good

>>717317351
>Heck, I think Mummy Demastered is better.
That's great tho...

>>717314571 (OP)
Gameplay-wise I prefer Bloodstained, but the OST doesn’t even come close to SotN. Symphony still has one of the greatest vidya soundtracks of all time. Like, I can’t remember any of the music from Bloodstained. None of it is memorable. I did like the Easter egg though where you can get the fairy familiar to sing while you play the piano. That was pretty soulful.

>>717318821
Prince of Persia the Lost Crown. Ignore the protag's DEI haircut, it's amazing.

>>717317736
i drop it around the same time, just before the tower and pick up again and honestly, i enjoy it, sadly trying to 100% the game has made a little sour with some drops like the shard of the fucking 8-pixel boss

>>717318947
It has quite a few memorable tracks. I remember them from their Curse of the Moon versions, though.

Not going to play it, looks ugly.

>>717318821
Have you played all of the Nintendo DS Castlevania games? Konami released a collection of them recently. They’re all quite good.

>>717318821
>Also any metrodvania recommendation?
Deedlit in Wonder Labrinth

>>717314571 (OP)
SOTN isn't good so that's not a good comparison
Is Bloodstained better than the 3 DS Metrodivanias?
Hard to say
Probably not

>>717318965
>ubisoft
>having to use ubisoft connect

what a shame, but no, i dont buy EA games for the same reason

>>717314571 (OP)
Yes but it's on Unreal Engine so everything suffers.

>>717319005
Ah, I didn’t play the Curse of the Moon games. Maybe I would have appreciated the music more if I had.

>>717319063
Nigga just pirate it

If Bloodstained 2 releases and it doesn't have local co-op I'm gonna steal all of Iga's whips.

>>717319037
i just played a little bit of order of ecclesia like 10+ years ago, i drop it after the fight with he tower boss for some reason, i will pick the collection eventually
>>717319038
>9$
Nice

Better than SotN? Maybe, but that's a low bar to pass. Worse than like every other metroidvania in existence. Also looks like those shitty american porn games

Playing through it right now and I hate the grind to make anything, same with techniques being locked to certain weapons until you master them.
Otherwise I'm enjoying the hell out of it since I last played it maybe 4/5 years ago.

>>717314571 (OP)
Maybe for a literal retard, good bait tho.

>>717319604
SotN is style over substance

>>717314571 (OP)
Bloodstained is probably the ugliest game I've ever seen. The graphics alone can kill boners and turn me away from it. 90s games had better graphics.

>>717319772
SotN maxed out the style stat, I legit can't find a game with so many details that impact absolutely nothing gameplay wise but are still there because they are cool and give atmosphere and immersion.

It is the only game where style over substance actually works.

>>717319772
>like any of iga games had substance

I love my wife Bloodless

>>717319958
Unreal Engine.

>>717320213
Cute!

>>717319958
Obviously. Super Metroid is still the best looking Metroidvania.
Bloodstained is so unbelievably ugly and tacky that I kind of like it, though. It is a bold artistic statement to release a game that looks like that. It doesn't look boring, at least.

>>717316000
>>717316791
If Bloodstained is a high quality game wrapped in shit visuals, Ender Lilies is the opposite.

>>717320261
UE can look gorgeous, the original Unreal game still looks good. It has problems with performance but it can absolutely look amazing.
>>717320339
>muh artistic statement
That's just cope, anon. You know it is.
You can like despite it being absolutely horrific looking, that's fine. But don't waste time defending its looks, it's hopeless.

>>717320393
Ender Lilies has more combat substance than any castlevania game ever made. Cause it has a proper dodge button, fuctional for dodge jump, parry, and all of your offensive skills actually have decent range. And limits so they aren't spammable. And no shitty rpg system. And enemies with actual movesets

>>717320213
>changes blood to white color
Bloodstained? more like cumstained

>>717320531
>And no shitty rpg system
I wonder how the devs themselves describe their own game...

>>717320636
-y
Bloodstained looks awful. Calling it ugly is a massive understatement.

>>717320636
Yes? It looks like a mock up of a fake game.

>>717320393
lilies is both lil bro

>>717314571 (OP)
i really didn't care for it. Beyond it being ugly as sin, most of the bosses felt really unpolished with some janky ass hitboxes.
Felt like a pretty average metroidvania

>>717314571 (OP)
Absofuckinglutely not. It's arguably better than Dawn of Sorrow, and it is great, but no.

>>717320643
Lilies doesn't give you fake bullshit like agility strength etc that doesn't do shit for no reason. Cause it has actual game design instead of drag and dropping random mechanics into the game for lulz

Ender lilies is the SotN of indie metroidvanias

A gorgeous game finely and carefully crafted with style and grace, grounded to its roots, not innovative but definitely superior to their gimmicky contemporaries in every conceivable way, not trying to chase a gimmick but rather mastering the already established foundations to give a solid and rich experience.

Not to mention the OST which is simply delightful and full of emotion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gR46RtoBl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tXoMkngPt4

>>717320981
OK.
It's a dark fantasy 2D action RPG.

>>717316138
I started a hard playthrough and had to look up how to beat the first gucking bods because it turns into a puzzle game

>>717316000
>>717320643
>Souls-like

>>717318821
I can't read this ESL drivel. Please try again.

>>717320783
I'm not your bro, sis.

>>717321181
bitch sotn itself a souls-like. But you actually lose progress upon death, UNLIKE lilies. Even there Binary Haze is based, nothing is lost upon death. Best souls games since DS1, best Castlevania game since Soma duology

>>717321148
The ship's boss is the hardest part, there's another difficulty spike at Zangetsu. Completely doable though I beat them both within 5 tries. You can find an 8 bit coin somewhere and get a decent weapon early.

>>717320636
Thanks for reinforcing my decision to not play this ugly garbage.

>>717314571 (OP)
even ds igavania games mog this

>>717314571 (OP)
Needs a Switch 2 edition (complete)

>>717321642
Uhh, sorry, the switch 2 is too weak to handle bloodstained, maybe go back to playing DK and MK.

>>717321342
I'm not playing your pedo game

>>717321181
it's literally not, you don't even lose shit on death

>>717314571 (OP)
Tattoos are for trannies.

>>717321342
>sotn itself a souls-like
Die, zoomer, die!

>>717314571 (OP)
I hated how it looked and barely remember anything about it. It's decent, but I'd take SotN and all the GBA and DS games over it.

>>717314571 (OP)
I'd say I enjoyed it just as much, despite the scuffed presentation at times.
It's very good.

>>717314571 (OP)
Mechanically? yes.
Stylistically? Fuck no.
The game looks like shit.
Sprites > cheap 3d
Also:

>>717318947
SotN definitely has better music and sound design.

>>717314571 (OP)
SotN is way too easy, has less variety in weapons, spells and skills.
But Bloodstained plays like jank in such a way that I can never get used to it and just can't enjoy the experience of playing it. That's disregarding the terrible 2.5D art direction.

SotN is way better in the end.

>>717322351
>pretending DS isn't just a castlevania like with some RE, Zelda and MH bits
Yeah simple enemies put in a difficult arrangement for the sake of draining your limited health or better, dropping you into a pit, in a fantasy hodge podge setting. Yeah totally doesn't describe both games and doesn't sound like cookie cutter definition of a souls like.
tho by that definition megaman too, is a souls like. But let's be real: selecting an archstone is a megaman fucking thing.
So yeah, castlevania AND megaman are souls-likes now, cope and seethe, muahahaha