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Those two stories are not even canon. Fantastic Four ended when Stan Lee and Jack Kirby left the comic. It was literally continually published because they still had the IP and the truth was that it was being replaced by Avengers and eventually X-Men. The really only published it because it was the first big Marvel IP (not counting the original Human Torch who was a cyborg or android or whatever from the 40s when they were Atlas Comics). Later FF writers basically hated the characters. They were outdated and couldn't fit into the 80s and 90s, especially the 2000s where they had a bunch of writers who not only hated the FF but hated comics as a medium and wished they were doing TV or movies.