Thread 717322458

does it?

>>717322458 (OP)
borderless makes switching between windows easier

>>717322458 (OP)
Borderless adds input lag and eats 5-25 fps regardless of the game or the setup.
And alt tabbing works the same in fullscreen anyway

Depends on the OS and compositor now, don't it.
Modern systems just emulate exclusive full screen as borderless now for obvious reasons

borderless is smoother and pisses off the fullscreen trannies

Borderless because there's an 80% chance when I come out of fullscreen all my windows will be rearranged.

>>717322934
Not with every game works alt tabbing, but this

>>717322934
>alt tabbing works the same in fullscreen anyway
lol lmao

>>717322458 (OP)
Fullscreen
>delay with the screen going black for a second every time I alt-tab
>more likely to be unstable and crash

Borderless
>instant alt-tab
>doesn't crash

Borderless is better in every way. On modern systems it doesn't really matter but alt-tabbing is smoother and more stable on borderless.
>>717322934
>eats 5-25 fps regardless of the game or the setup.
lol wtf

Why would you wanna alt tab out of your games

>>717325269
I have a digital life outside of gaming

Ah yes, the sweet copes from pisspoor gamers who can't afford multiple monitors

>>717325269
adjust volume on my music

>>717322458 (OP)
Fullscreen is better for when I want to use a resolution that isn't my desktop resolution. Borderless is better when the game tries to force my refresh rate to 60.

>borderless
adhd zoomer shit
>fullscreen
you're in the game

>>717325331
Spamming Twitch doesn't count.

>>717325269
Same reasons you would press the home button on a console controller:)

I always use fullscreen. Why would I need to alt tab away from my game if I have decided to play the game? You autists can't focus on a single task because tiktok has rotted your attention span away from your zoomer brain

>>717325586
Sometimes I like to have music playing in the background while I play a game.

>>717325586
managing mods

>>717322934
a post from 2012, nice
newsflash retards, dx12 doesnt even support true fullscreen. there is no difference anymore, in fact borderless is just better because of how flip queue works in win11

>>717322458 (OP)
Games used to fuck up real bad if you accidentally alt-tabbed. So borderless is nice.

>>717325269
checking the wiki

>>717325726
What about Vulkan? And what about DX11 games?

>fullscreen
>exclusive fullscreen

>>717325853
what emotion is this meant to convey?

>>717325269
checking for (you)s after firing off a mid-game culture war shitpost, of course :)

>>717322458 (OP)
Exclusive fullscreen, because I don't see any reason to add ANY amount of input lag (lmao running a game through a DWM processing layer), fully perceptible or not, just for such a trite convenience as slightly faster alt-tabbing.

Who the hell really cares about faster alt tabbing? I only alt tab if the game is bugging out and I want to find out why, or bitch at the dev. Do zoomers really need guides/wikis on hand every 15 seconds, like the /v/ memery suggests?

>>717322458 (OP)
fullscreen is a dead meme. i don't care if boarderless technically introduces input lag, doesn't feel any different to me. except for alt tabbing, hence why i use borderless.

>>717322458 (OP)
idk
Did Win11 fix the taskbar disappearing
Probably not right

>>717322458 (OP)
i dont know sometimes when i click out of a fullscreen game on my second monitor the game minimizes so i usually play borderless but i dont know what else is different

>>717326110
full-screen/borderless input lag is a bigger meme than your strawman zoomer meme

>>717322458 (OP)
fullscreen for maximum performance
borderless for QOL convenience

True Fullscreen doesn't even exist anymore. OSes HATE True Fullscreen. I don't know why there's even the illusion of choice anymore it's all Borderless Fullscreen now

>>717325269
I have alt tabbed out of a game (Devil May Cry 5) to read your shitty comment

I used to get much better mouse input in true fullscreen mode but no games support it anymore

>>717322458 (OP)
Borderless is better because it lets me take notes without having to switch mediums. Makes it easier to snap in and out of focus.

>>717326110
>>717322934
stupid fucks

>>717322458 (OP)
It hasn't mattered for a very long time, probably half of /v/ wasn't born when it stopped mattering.

>>717325269
To open the task manager and kill a game that's frozen.

>>717327524
You don't need alt + tab for that.

>>717325142
I understand you exclusively play movie games but some of us are trying to minimize input lag

>>717325387
If you're playing on a computer screen, turn the knob of your speakers down. If you're playing on a TV, use the remote. If you're using a bluetooth headset, use the buttons on it.
>>717325451
To quit the game? You can do that from the menu on PC games.

fullscreen is a relic from the 90s

borderless is for zoomies, if you play borderless you didn't beat the game
fullscreen is like developers intended and gives more fps

>>717327765
lol

Fullscreen if extreme sweaty professional fps tournament. Otherwise borderless always

>>717327659
You say that like anyone running a modern GPU can't crush most games in borderless with sub-frame input latency. Unless you're sweating over CS:GO with a CRT and a stopwatch, the "input lag" is in your head. But hey, if dropping to desktop like it's 2004 gets you hard, don't let us stop you.

>>717322934
>alt tabbing
Man, I remember when I had only 1 screen, what a blast from the past.

I still have PTSD from Fallout New Vegas crashing half the time you alt tab.

>>717322934
>Borderless adds input lag and eats 5-25 fps regardless of the game or the setup.
2010 was 15 years ago anon, things change

>>717322458 (OP)
If I'm playing a racing game, I'll go fullscreen to get fastest response times. Otherwise borderless.
Inb4 some retard tries to say the delay issue in borderless was fixed years ago in windows update - maybe in some games, but it's not universal. Go play Trackmania2020 and see for yourself .

>>717327854
I play shmups from the 1980s
Runahead is still heavy

>>717327598
you do in a lot of cursed shitty old games, they refuse to stop being in front so you have to ctrl+alt+del to get taskmgr open, then alt+tab, and blind navigate with your keyboard to close the game exe

>>717327659
Bitch, you're coping as fuck. Upgrade your PC.

I swear to god that nobody is ever able to prove that running certain display modes, capping fps, vrr or vsync ever has a noticeable affect on input latency.

>>717328614
Bitch, I could have a NASA pc it still would need exclusive fullscreen to reach optimal lag

>>717325269
learning foreign languages. you need a way to do lookups and jot down words. it also helps to have the script in another language to compare and contrast how translators handled certain words and expressions, especially stock phrases and adages

>>717329296
see >>717328614

>>717322458 (OP)
In my experience it's on a game by game basis. Some jeetcode runs worse in fullscreen some worse in borderless where you can pick your poison of stability and performance issues and some gfx options outright not working depending on the jeetiness of the code, your pref. settings and your hardware config. And nope, two games being on the same engine usually doesn't tell you anything useful.

>>717322458 (OP)
Fullscreen all the way. Always disable windows fullscreen optimizations on DX12 games, on DX11 games if you don't want windows 11 auto-hdr, and all lower DX games.

>>717325269
Play my own music and adjust it, check the wiki, take notes, respond to messages, get on voice to shout at fags to get into the lobby, check if I have gotten any (you)s yet, interact with anything on the second monitor at all, order tendies. Some of those I could maybe do on the phone but I'm not a zoomer and I don't want to use a touchscreen while I'm already at the PC.

>>717322702
fpbp

>>717325726
>new software is laggier than old, and there's no way around it
big surprise there

>>717332562
wrong pic lol

>>717325443
>Spamming Twitch
what does this mean?

>>717328385
>blind navigate
Nigga create a new desktop and open task manager there instead of going in blind like a neanderthal.

>>717335232
Sometimes even this shit doesn't work if the game is particularly nasty.

>>717327925
you still have to press alt+tab or winkey to use the other displays while in a game

>>717335232
I had to do this a shit ton of times playing Deus Ex Infinity War.

Btw anyone know if Gog fixed it? I heard before that they make sure everything is playable on modern hardware.