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Anonymous No.717332715 >>717332748 >>717332776 >>717332785 >>717333176 >>717333569 >>717333701 >>717333826 >>717333887 >>717334084 >>717334376 >>717334715 >>717335221 >>717335481 >>717335823 >>717335924 >>717335984 >>717336413 >>717336481 >>717338689 >>717339097
I've managed to distill the difference down to its most basic form
>Order vs Chaos
If you want me to elaborate then ask, I'm not writing a blog here like some kind of faggot
Anonymous No.717332748
>>717332715 (OP)
Wrpgs: Ultima-inspired
Jrpgs: Wizardry-inspired
Anonymous No.717332776 >>717333412 >>717333632 >>717334859 >>717335276
>>717332715 (OP)
>JRPG
Japanese RPG

>WRPG
Western RPG

There, that's the difference. I saved you all 500+ posts.
Anonymous No.717332785 >>717333197
>>717332715 (OP)
Wrpgs: gay
Jrpgs: less gay
Anonymous No.717333176
>>717332715 (OP)
>JRPG
4 niggas in a row.
>WRPG
Not a thing.
Anonymous No.717333197 >>717335425
>>717332785
>JRPGs
>Less gay

There might be less actual gay sex in JRPGs, but they are usually much more homocoded in general
Anonymous No.717333283
JRPGs were just simplified CRPGs for storyfags
Anonymous No.717333412 >>717333510 >>717333716 >>717333839 >>717335298 >>717335667 >>717339140
>>717332776
Then how comes Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is a JRPG when devs are Western (French)?
Anonymous No.717333510
>>717333412
It isn't a JRPG, it's just (I assume) a turn based game.
Anonymous No.717333548 >>717333742
>Literally every reply so far only replied to the image and didn't read the text
Anonymous No.717333569 >>717334563 >>717334703
>>717332715 (OP)
Elaborate.
Anonymous No.717333586
JRPGs: good
WRPGs: bad
Anonymous No.717333632 >>717333782 >>717333795 >>717334834 >>717339638
>>717332776
Out of all the answers this is the most retarded. Like I don't play video games at all retarded. Genres are not and never have been defined by geography but by design style. Your answer is as low IQ as saying pizza hut made in China is Chinese Food
Anonymous No.717333701
>>717332715 (OP)
JRPGs are usually super linear, rarely give you much choice in anything, have grinding for everything, and a generic plot where god is bad. Hot female characters though.
WRPGs usually give you a lot more freedom, have little to no grinding for anything, and the plots can be generic but if you want a good RPG plot the better WRPGs do this. The female characters are awful though.
Anonymous No.717333716
>>717333412
Same reason Dragon's Dogma is a WRPG despite the developers being Japanese
Anonymous No.717333742
>>717333548
The text is the same topic as the image, nobody asked OP to explain is all. He's probably just gonna say something stupid like "jrpgs are order because their options are limited and controlled, you simply play out the role given to you by their writers. Whereas wrpgs are chaos in it's truest form, a sandbox for the player to play any role he chooses" or whatever.
Anonymous No.717333782
>>717333632
>food analogy
>is retarded
Checks out. Pizza Hut made in China is very different from Pizza Hut made in America.
Anonymous No.717333785
4 niggers in a row
6 niggas top down
And no, action RPGs are not real RPGs. They are action games with a skill tree. Keep it turn based or RTWP.
Anonymous No.717333795
>>717333632
And yet, you failed to argue against it.
Anonymous No.717333826
>>717332715 (OP)
JRPG: Teh Suck
WRPG: used to be good 20 years ago, now also Teh Suck
Anonymous No.717333839
>>717333412
>Then how comes Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is a JRPG when devs are Western (French)?
It isn't
Anonymous No.717333846 >>717335246
>JRPG
jarpig
>WRPG
warpig
Anonymous No.717333887
>>717332715 (OP)
>JRPG
Potentially fun video games

>WRPG
Character creator + awkward sex scenes with ugly NPCs
Anonymous No.717334084
>>717332715 (OP)
JRPG: fun
WRPG: not fun
Anonymous No.717334376
>>717332715 (OP)
>JRPG
Easy to follow, linear story with predefined characters and simplified gameplay for broad appeal.
>WRPG
The opposite

Generally speaking, WRPGs are the practician's choice while JRPGs are for casuals.
Anonymous No.717334563
>>717333569
In jrpgs, every detail is handcrafted by the devs. Even though they might be some optional content, it's always additive, so the main story and progression stays linear. You can pretty much always 100% a jrpg, everything exists to be found. The whole game is like a complete puzzle for the player to unravel, there's always a perfect intended route, and no limit on completion.
wrpgs are chaotic in the sense that there is no intended route, everything is left to the player to discover but huge swathes of the game can be lost. It's a completionists nightmare, imagine trying to 'complete' BG3 for example, it's either impossible or an absolute bore, because most loot is worthless but still valuable.
>This isn't a criticism or endorsement of either genre over the other, just a difference
With a JRPG, you're being led through a crafted world, at whatever pace you like, march through or take time to smell the roses. You get to say "I can do EVERYTHING here, see everything the devs wanted me to see." It's carefuly structured, hence, order.
WRPGs though it's freedom, but at a price. There's no right way to play, like they're saying "you'll always miss something, good luck making peace with that". In this case it's more like "I can do ANYTHING here, but not EVERYTHING". That lack of structure is chaos.
I'm tired
My feet hurt
Anonymous No.717334703
>>717333569
You should not have asked. OP was, in fact, itching to write a blog here like some faggot, but he wants to pretend he's doing you a favour, rather than you doing him one by giving him a pretext to do what he desperately wanted to all along whilst pretending otherwise.
This thread should have languished, the question unasked, so OP could have had his wish, to have never written his dumb blog post.
Anonymous No.717334714
The perfect game would be a wrpg with jrpg characters and world building
Anonymous No.717334715
>>717332715 (OP)
Jarpigs offer a more narrative, linear game where the plot is the central focus. Similar to visual novels - the fun is in seeing the story unfold.
Warpigs offer more freedom to wander and to customise one's character. Similar to roguelikes - the fun is learning and playing the game as a game.
I'm derailing this thread to ask for jarpig and warpig suggestions from those from each camp.
Anonymous No.717334834 >>717334972 >>717339721
>>717333632
JRPG and WRPG are not genres. They're to denote a regional difference in design philosophy.

Japanese turn-based RPGs don't play like Western turn-based RPGs.
Japanese action RPGs don't play like Western action RPGs.
Japanese strategy/tactics RPGs don't play like Western strategy/tactics RPGs.
Japanese CRPGs don't play like Western CRPGs.
Anonymous No.717334859 >>717334919 >>717334946 >>717335758
>>717332776
Why Western RPG and not American RPG, Italian RPG etc?
Anonymous No.717334919
>>717334859
Because Western RPGs tend to play similar enough to eachother regardless of country because of closely shared markets and stuff.
There's not much difference between what American RPGs were doing compared to say, British or German/Scandinavian RPGs because they're all influenced by eachother.
Anonymous No.717334946
>>717334859
japan is gay bullshit and everyone else isn't
Anonymous No.717334972 >>717335120 >>717335172
>>717334834
>japanese crpgs
name some
Anonymous No.717335120
>>717334972
Lunatic Dawn
Dragon Slayer series
Anonymous No.717335172 >>717335524
>>717334972
Lunatic Dawn: Passage of the Book
Elona/Elin
Most Falcom games pre-2010 (Sorcerian, Legend of Heroes, Dragon Slayer)

There's also the wird case Growlanser IV which is essentially Japanese Baldur's Gate 1/2 but developed for PSP instead of PC.
Anonymous No.717335221
>>717332715 (OP)
>Order vs Chaos
I've come to a similar conclusion
Find a JRPG with randomness and multiple guides will exist for how to control that randomness. Find a JRPG with complex random systems and I bet there are tons of posts about controlling the games systems to essentially remove the randomness and complexity. This is completely normal behavior for a JRPG player while a WPRG player would accept randomness and even praise complex systems that are hard to predict or control.
JRPG players are people who prefer order. They want everything in its place. Ideal JRPGs have 'perfect' states.
Anonymous No.717335246
>>717333846
NO MORE WAR PIGS HAVE THE POOOOWWWWWEEEEEERRRRRRRR
Anonymous No.717335276 >>717335465
>>717332776
/thread
This is why Ys is a JRPG and something33 is not
Anonymous No.717335298 >>717335417
>>717333412
It's a Je'RPG
Anonymous No.717335417
>>717335298
No, it's a Le RPG.
Anonymous No.717335425 >>717335691 >>717338273
>>717333197
>xxxcoded
the fuck are you talking about retard
Anonymous No.717335465
>>717335276
>This is why Ys is a JRPG
Of course Ys is a JRPG
Action RPGs originated in Japan.
Turn-based RPGs did not.
Anonymous No.717335481
>>717332715 (OP)
FRPG rapes both
Anonymous No.717335524 >>717335714
>>717335172
the legend of heroes games are not crpgs
Anonymous No.717335667
>>717333412
Nobody but actual drooling retards call it a JRPG.
Anonymous No.717335691
>>717335425
The 7 layers of tea. GossipMAXX YapMAXX
Anonymous No.717335714
>>717335524
They are. Especially the Gagharv trilogy. Up until Trails to Zero they're all developed for PC natively.
White Witch and Cagesong of the Ocean have "real-time with pause" combat similar to what a lot of Western CRPGs were doing, in 1994 and 1999. What console JRPGs had real-time with pause combat?
Anonymous No.717335758
>>717334859
The reality is that there are some blurry lines occasionally, like an SMT inspired dungeon crawler or an EO inspired one created by some indie devs in the west would obviously take more after jrpgs. But the general rule still applies because they're describing certain types of games that evolved based on cultural differences and not geographical locations. Also you can just call something an rpg you know?
Anonymous No.717335806
What's your favorite WRPG?
Anonymous No.717335823 >>717335870
>>717332715 (OP)
JRPGs arent RPGs. Youre not roleplaying as crono.
Anonymous No.717335870
>>717335823
>PST isn't an RPG, you're not roleplay as TNO
Anonymous No.717335875
JRPG = Inspired by Japanese media
WRPG = RPG

That's literally it.
Anonymous No.717335924
>>717332715 (OP)
>JRPG
Sovlkino
>WRPG
Slop
Anonymous No.717335984
>>717332715 (OP)
>JRPG
Good bass battle
>WRPG
Bad bass battle
Anonymous No.717336014 >>717336060 >>717336162
What are some really comfy and addictive Jrpgs on the Switch? I've never played one. Tried FF7 and Dragon Quest XI but got burned out after just a few hours from the wall of texts.

Tried the demo of elliot the millennium tales and it clicked hard. Exactly what I'm looking for. Comfy forests, castles, houses, etc.
Anonymous No.717336049 >>717336276 >>717337449
Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma are JRPG
Anonymous No.717336060
>>717336014
Atelier Yumia
Anonymous No.717336162
>>717336014
SMT Vengeance

Minimal plot, just wandering around the apocalypse shanking demons and building a party of sexy demon women
Anonymous No.717336276 >>717337449
>>717336049
People bring up "what about dark souls" as some kind of got'cha moment but dark souls has more in common with the design philosophy of old Japanese adventure games and old japanese action RPGs than it does western RPG philosophy.
Anonymous No.717336413
>>717332715 (OP)
wrpg sucks
simple as!
Anonymous No.717336481
>>717332715 (OP)
Games that took gaming to where it is with memorable experiences vs low effort parasite poser walking simulators but who knows. If Ciri is next 2b that true narrative can change.
Anonymous No.717337449
>>717336049
>>717336276
Darksouls is ARPG
Anonymous No.717338273
>>717335425
Effeminate males are like 80% more common in JRPGs than they are in WRPGs.
Anonymous No.717338647
wrpgs are gay sex simulators
Anonymous No.717338689
>>717332715 (OP)
>JRPG
4 niggers in a line
>WRPG
Skyrim
Anonymous No.717339097
>>717332715 (OP)
:JRPG: it's just an anime with a turn-based battle system

WRPG: clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick
Anonymous No.717339140
>>717333412
The French have a strange affinity with the Japanese I've never quite been able to figure out. Exists in anime too, loads of French 'animes' out there in a way that doesn't exist for any other European country.
Anonymous No.717339638 >>717340351
>>717333632
The irony of this post.
>Genres
That's where you're wrong, you mouthbreather. It's not a genre.
Everyone agrees Valkyrie Profile is a JRPG. Everyone agrees Final Fantasy VII is a JRPG. Everyone agrees Vagrant Story is a JRPG. These three games have fuckall in common when it comes to "design style". Xenoblade Chronicles has more in common with Knights of the Old Republic than with Dragon Quest and yet it's called a JRPG by everyone. You're just incredibly fucking stupid and ignorant.
inb4
>I was pretending to be retarded!
Anonymous No.717339721 >>717341082
>>717334834
You have to be trolling nobody on v is dumb enough to believe genre is geographical. I'd ask you to define what Clair Obscur is but again you're a troll and I don't know why you posted that.
Anonymous No.717340351 >>717340921
>>717339638
The difference is lack of narrative choices you mongo. I don't remember any ending where you side with Zanza or romance Sharla in Xenoblade. It has nothing in fucking common with KOTR. I encourage you to try that dumb ass argument in non anonymous spaces so people can laugh your ass out of the room for knowing nothing about RPGs. Try that geography bullshit in a community with your name attached and see how it goes. I've played more RPGs than you've played games in your life.
Anonymous No.717340921
>>717340351
So anything with a lack of narrative choices is a JRPG? That's the genre definition for your barely functional mongoloid brain? Dynasty Warriors Origins is a WRPG, Doom is a JRPG. Gotcha.
Anonymous No.717341082
>>717339721
Clair Obscur is a turn based rpg unless you think Septerra Core and Anachronox are also JRPGs
Anonymous No.717342376 >>717342627
Misleading categories that you're better off never using at all instead of arguing about defining informal terms of no cogent value.
Anonymous No.717342627 >>717342857
>>717342376
Everybody knows what a fucking JRPG/WRPG are the only people who don’t are the gaming equivalent of the trannies who argue genders don’t exist because of genetic abnormalities
Anonymous No.717342857 >>717343165
>>717342627
>there are two genders therefore all dichotomies are cogent
>you will fall in my false dichotomy otherwise you're a tranny
Ok negro.
Anonymous No.717343165
>>717342857
Ok I’ll use a non tranny example since this activates your defense system.
Species of animals are typically defined by individuals that can breed and produce fertile offspring. If I find examples of different β€œSpecies” that can produce fertile hybrids does that mean we can no longer consider them separate species? Or does it mean there’s an exception in the classification system?