>just 6 months of use
oops, that will be another $60, gamer kun.

>>717332916 (OP)
The issue with that webm is that the guy moving the analog stick is trying to go with an even pace, but then for some mystical reason he stops whenever the jiggling begins.
I wonder what's up with that.

>>717333009
dark souls is unplayable with that, retard

>break my controller
>"look my controller is broken!"
okay?

>>717333073
Did you even read the post?

>>717332916 (OP)
>8shitdo

better start believing in gamesir shill threads
you're in one

>>717333009
>the guy moving the analog stick is trying to go with an even pace, but then for some mystical reason he stops whenever the jiggling begins
that's not what he's doing, dumbass. he stops when the jiggling begins to showcase how bad it is despite not moving the stick. it's not supposed to jiggle like that btw, in case i have to tell you that

>>717333009
I redeem consistant sir

Sar, is because you have old 8shitpoo controllar sar... you need to redeem the gamesar please sar...

Someone redpill me on hall effect joysticks please

I've been using my 8bitdo for months and it still works fine even though I dropped it a couple times
Consider NOT dropping it in your toilet

>>717333828
they are suposedly outdated tech and worse than TMR sticks

gamesir won

>>717333734
This but unironically

>>717332916 (OP)
I have one of those and the actual issue with the stick is that the outer layer fucking disintegrates.

Can someone explain why my PS2 controller has been fine for 20 years and still works with no drift but I've gone through like half a dozen different "modern" controllers?

Somehow mine is still flawless after a year and thousands of hours gaming.
Some of the buttons are slightly messed up tho

whoops, just ordered another one. I hope it's gonna last longer this time.

>>717334730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2uyeBfFYp8

It's a real crock of shit that this didn't become a standard feature, but we know why.

8bitdo is fucking garbage. People only shilled them so hard because they were somewhat less garbage than other offerings and had gay color options. Gamesir is the premier 3rd party controller brand and blows the competition right out of the water, especially for budget controllers.

>>717333191
nope

The only controllers I own that have stick drift are my ps3 controllers that I have played on almost daily since the ps3 came out. Consider washing your hands and not throwing your controllers in hissy fits if this is a regular problem for you.

>>717335387
>washing your hands
I do
>not throwing your controllers
didn't even drop it once accidentally

>>717332916 (OP)
Without seeing what the person is doing IRL with the controller this mp4 is uselss

i stop playing any games with gamepad so unrelated
most games on pc is better with keyboard and mouse
I dont play racing game cause no good racing game came out in last decade, but I have race wheel and pedal
I play all fighting games with either stick or hitbox
I play my flight sim with my HOTAS
I play my space sim with my HOSAS
there is simply no need for gamepad anymore

>>717335879
most games that I play on PC are emulated so they're unplayable with a keyboard.

>He fell for the 8shitdo spam.
Get a gameSAAR retard.

Only 8bitdo controller I own. Works perfectly)it was bought on release). Nothing bad to say about it.

>>717332916 (OP)
this wouldnt have happened with gamesaar
be smart, redeem

So are hall effect and TMR sticks actually good and work forever unlike potentiometers? I'll just get an official controller if they can break anyway.

>>717332916 (OP)
That's dust under the stick, stupid.

>>717337125
They have different problems. But yes they are more durable. Not infinitely durable mind you the stick is still subjected to wearing out.

>>717333828
power hungry stopgap between old sticks and new TMR ones

>>717332916 (OP)
my gamesir controller does not do that

>>717337024
The only 8bitdo controller I can say I have liked is their Saturn clone. Literally the best controller I have ever owned.
I've had their Pro2 and it was extremely laggy to the point of brokeness within 6 months, and their arcade stick which is quite shitty but still probably the best wireless stick on the market, unless you want to start modding one with adapters. And before people tell me I fell for the wireless meme, I use it on my bingbingwahoo for casual couch play, so I don't really care about small amounts of input lag versus the comfort of a wireless controller used from a nice sofa. I have more legit set-up on my PC.

>>717332916 (OP)
That video is fake, new third party controllers can't drift.

>>717332916 (OP)
okay but why is he waggling the stick around like that? seems fake as fuck

>tfw can no longer have any normal gamepad discussion due to gamesaar
these fucks really need to change their name

GuliKit KK Max 3 is the best modern third-party controller I have ever owned. The best first party controller is the Switch 2 Pro controller. The best 'retro' controller is the 8bitdo Saturn pad. The best arcade stick (unmodded out of the box) is the Nacon Daija.

just replace it

>>717337451
They changed it to gamesir.

>>717332916 (OP)
Werks on my machine. 2 years and a couple of some accidental drops ranging from ceramic floor to fucking asphalt.

>>717337451
considering the thread opened with a disingenuous slop mp4 there was never any chance of 'normal gamepad discussion'

>>717337024
I always wondered what games/genres would benefit from a neogeo controller? All arcade genres (STGs, fighters etc) are just straight up better using a levered arcade stick, and if you want to use a pad, one with a dpad. Unless you're using it to play actual neogeo games, what's the point? Even then, most of the games you'd want to play on that system are arcade ports anyway so you'd just then default to using a stick?

>>717337465
https://youtu.be/U_JWaWaKcII?t=730

>buy wireless 8bitdo controller
>charging dock fails in just a few months
>lose 2.4g dongle
>bluetooth barely works on pc
>only way to get a replacement dongle is to buy one straight from 8bitdo for $11 + international shipping

I hate this wireless meme

>>717332916 (OP)
Same shit happens with literally every single brand, including official microsoft/sony ones. It's all made in China with zero QC even when your controller is supposed to be a premium sold for over $100.
The same goes for expensive gaming mice, also all made in chinesium even the most expensive ones, again with zero QA and basically you have a high chance at double clicking or the mousewheel fucking up within a year.

>>717337335
>The only 8bitdo controller I can say I have liked is their Saturn clone. Literally the best controller I have ever owned.
I've been using that one for many years, and it's great. I had their SNES clone previously and that one was shit.

>>717337942
wireless controllers have been the standard for 20 years gramps, your anecdote only makes you look like a luddite retard

>>717337837
>video
Not going to watch the whole thing, but judging from the first few comments, he doesn't like the dpad?
I don't really mind that the dpad isn't incredible. Any games where the dpad matters for movement, I'm using my Saturn pad anyway. When I am using this controller, zi'm just navigating menus with the dpad anyway so who really gives a fuck? Unless there is a controller with the same build quality and out-of-the-box customisation that ALSO has an incredible dpad (that I can switch to be in-line with the face buttons when a game would benefit from it), I will stick with this.

>>717337976
If you want a SNES clone, get the official Nintendo one (although I am not sure how compatible it is out of the box with a PC). Having said that, I cannot fathom how somebody could prefer a snes dpad to a mega drive/saturn style one.

>>717337942
You can't blame the company because you fucking lost the dongle, retard.

>>717338185
I got that controller back in 2018 or 19, before they even had SNES games on Switch.

idk about that one but the green 8bitdo controller my friend gave me works fine for now.

>>717337796
The Neo Geo Pad is no modern Swiss Army controller. It is a rapier—elegant, deadly, limited to a specific domain.
If your heart lies in pixel-pure arcade brawls, fist-fueled duels, and the glorious 2D realm, then this pad is no mere nostalgia trip—it’s a legitimate weapon of war.

That happened ony right stick untill I updated the controller firmware. Now it happens on my left stick lol

>>717334908
You should put some thumb grips on that thing, ittl breathe some new life into the controller. I have that exact one and it came with the 8bitdo thumb grips and I literally can't go back to playing without them cause the tactile feeling is so much better than the regular sticks. They feel slippery and weird without the grips on now

so there's already a new gay technology people can soi out over when hall effect isn't even industry standard yet?
how the fuck have mice and keyboards gotten better by leaps and bounds but controllers just got worse?

>buying 8shitdo in the first place
self-inflicted pain

>>717337796
>All arcade genres (STGs, fighters etc) are just straight up better using a levered arcade stick
Good thing the neo geo nub is exactly that but shorter?

ima buying this bad boy

>been using a DS4 for my PC since ~2018 and it still works flawlessly
It's that easy.

>>717335195
why do autists have such disgusting personal hygiene

>>717334730
planned obsolescence

>>717337796
The stick on the neo geo controller works the same as a arcade stick. It's all micro-switches.

>>717341670
Looks neat but all I really want is a Saturn style D-pad on a Playstation controller. This is close, but the lack of analog triggers and the Sega controller shape mean the sticks and grips are also a little small. It looks cool though. I have 8bitdo's M30 but I'm tempted by this.

>>717342848
you don't need a solid grip on a controller if it's lightweight, you'd know as a m30 user

For me, it's this sir

>>717343042
>asymmetric sticks
into the trash
I find it hilarious that the only reason that abomination of a layout exists is Microsoft wanting to circumvent Sony's DS patent in 2000, and people are defending this shit to this day

>>717342926
The M30 doesn't have sticks.

>>717343140
I own both :)
I'm an idort :)
Don't let controller layouts upset you :)

>>717332916 (OP)
My 5 years old Pro 2 still working like new. Have you tried not being a gorilla nigger?

any opinions on this thing?
is it square gated by any chance?

>>717337125
Nothing works forever and all parts wear down eventually, sometimes sooner than later. I've had hall effect sticks seize up and lock themselves in a permanent diagonal position.

>>717343182
>I own both

>>717337125
I thought the whole stick drift thing was a meme considering it never happened to me in my whole life and my dualshock2/3 hack even my DC pads are still working great to this day.
Then I buy a Dualsense (for my pc) and babysit the fuck out of it (made a case specifically for it, I never throw or drop it, etc) and then it starts drifting in less than a year. Insane, it's not just a little bit, I have to add 50% of deadzone in order to clear it.

They're doing this shit on purpose I swear. For what it's worth I've been using this Vader 4 Pro for about 9 months, it's hall effects and I have no stick issues so far, and it's a great controller, with great gyro now thanks to Steam's official support, although I caught the right bumper sticking once but it never happened again..
I can't consider buying Gamesir because of the name, kek

Isnt 8bitdo chinese? Why does everyone always reply with saar to 8bitdo i thought gamesir was indian.

>>717333828
Hall effect and TMR are chink marketing gimmicks. All controllers with TMR and hall effect sticks still drift sheet about a year or daily use. The technology is irrelevant when all the cheap plastic parts wear and break

>buttons and stick finally started to break after 8 years of hard use almost every single day
Best $130 I ever spent. Replaced the JLF lever with a JLX for $30 and the OBSF-30 buttons with more OBSF-30 but all white this time. Might buy silent versions when these ones die in another 8 years.

>>717332916 (OP)
chinkshit today unironically has better quality than 8shitdo and first party controllers

yep 8bitdo controllers are complete trash. Within weeks of light use, I often have stick issues, losing up to 20% in certain directions. garbage company, garbage QA

>>717346564
All controllers drift eventually

There is literally no good affordable controller.

>>717333828
>drift
Removes sensor wear from the drift equation. Can still develop "drift" from a loose centering spring.
>linearity
Varies by stick sensor and the controller's firmware. It's claimed by some that ALPS has the best linear response, but hall effect and TMR controllers with good sensor design and no smoothing algorithms provide one as well.
>voltage
Hall effect uses more than other stick types. This only matters meaningfully for soldering a new stick into first party controllers, where hall effect may not function properly without an added daughterboard but TMR and ALPS will just work.
>resolution
Separate from stick module completely, don't know where the TMR resolution meme comes from.
>design flaws
Some stick models don't have the sensors shielded adequately from interference. Hall effect triggers may slightly pull up on hall effect/TMR sticks when pushed in, theoretically Switch 2's magnets would pull TMR joycon sticks toward the console.
Hall effect at low battery often loses about half its stick range.

>>717346694
My 8bitdo ultimate wired did indeed lost a lot of travel on the left stick. But i bought it in 2023, and it still holds up after 2.5 years of HEAVY use. That's good quality, in my book.

I had drift on a 8bitdo that got fixed with a firmware update. Could be that in addition to using shittier pots, gamepad manufacturers forgot how to write firmware.

>>717332916 (OP)

Those 8bit doodoo controllers are garbage. No idea why they get touted anywhere. Read about them being solid for years, bought one- immediately fucked up analog stick after a week. Straight into the trash.

>>717332916 (OP)
>he fell for the 8bit shill threads

kek

>>717332916 (OP)
Somehow the Indian gamesaar controller is the best controller I've owned, no stick issues thanks to hall effect sticks

>>717346939
>controller literally broke
>still holds up

>>717332916 (OP)
Works On My Machine.
i have the sn30pro, pro +, and now the pro 2, only moving on from the previous when the stick rubber started to degenerate, but they all still work.

I have the SF30pro and it's utter garbage
never bought any of their cheap shit since.

>>717343773
>>717346826
So they're a scam. Guess I'll stick to first party.

>>717337796
I bought one out of curiosity, having never used one before, and honestly I can't see the point. I thought it'd be quite immediate like a dpad and with the micro switches it'd be more responsive like an arcade stick, but the throw on it is huge so it feels kind of like trying to use an analogue stick in a 2D game. There are some mods to fix that, but out of the box it feels like garbage.

I've had my 8bitdo pro2 for years and it still works perfectly. Maybe it's because I don't throw my controller like a toddler or play while eating cheetos?

>>717350858
>only moving on from the previous when the stick rubber started to degenerate
you know you can buy and replace those right?

>>717332916 (OP)
works on my machine
and I've thrown mine at a wall multiple times

Best controller.

>>717352098
That vertical grip is made for tiny Asian hands lmao

>>717352163
Okay.

>>717333734
Unironically my saar is 2yrs old and still works like a charm.

>>717332916 (OP)
Only the most retarded poseur normalfags use 8bitdo. All of their peripherals are absolutely terrible.

>>717341773
Dumped all their stats in focus instead of cleanliness.

>>717332916 (OP)
My Vader 3 Pro has worked perfectly since launch and all I've done is buy new thumbsticks

>>717352098
*hits diagonal*

>>717352670
What do you use?

>>717352753
Didn't you read? He uses 8bitdo.

>>717332916 (OP)
>doesn't know how to replace pots
Skill issue.

>>717352753
>Mouse
Zowie EC (have a razer naga somewhere too but don't use it any more)
>Controller
Dual Shock 4
>Fight Stick
Qanba Obisidian

I've been using an Ultimate 2C for a few months and haven't had any issues so far. It feels surprisingly solid for a $30 chinkshit controller.

>>717350394
The travel loss is dimensional? like your thumb travels less to the max stick offset. But the stick still work "as intended", it registers all values -32768:32767
So it's a "cosmetic" wear, not functional, or very slightly functional.

>>717346590
what the fuck is a jlx

>>717332916 (OP)
BUY A FUCKING AD ALREADY
I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF THESE THREADS

i finally bought a pretty nice controller a while back and realized my hands just can't even use one anymore after being a PC gamer for so long.
i don't have any games that feel better to play on a controller over a mouse and keyboard.

>>717351907
yeah you "can" do that, for only 3 dollars... and a 20$ shipping fee.

it's was more economical to upgrade at the time.

>>717350394
it's like there appeared a huge dead zone in the center, the stick wobbles a lot without registering anything, so the "useful travel" of your thumb is smaller than on the less weared right stick, but both sticks "work fine"
the point is that i'm kinda ok with this 8bitdo controller, it could've been be better, it could've been be worse, next time i'll probably try another brand like gamesir or other, as for 8bitdo, i would recommend it if you are tight on a budget and found a good deal on it

>>717354195
Sorry controllers are videogames.
Now please add more rage and keep posting to this thread so i can up for traffic to my next revenue review thanks.

>>717353358
>Ultimate 2C
Ugly colors. What were they thinking?

>>717337451
It wouldn't be an issue if /v/ was so fucking autistic it's a chinese brand with nothing to do with indians.

Cool. so anyway, is the chinkbitdo n64 controller good. The other n64 knockoffs from retrobit and whatnot were pretty shit.

>>717354902
Its because of the name, plenty of people use this (as do I) and it's chinkshit also.

>>717333009
/x/ is less schizo than this place

>>717354906
Why would you use an n64 controller if you aren't using an actual n64, it's like the worst controller ever designed

>>717355293
I'm not paying the nintendo tax for the official wireless one bro. I also like weird controllers. I'm waiting for the chinks to get off their asses and make a saturn 3d pad knockoff.

Anyone know of a third party controller with higher tension sticks than a dualsense? Or how can I mod my dualsense to have higher tension sticks?

>>717355520
You can adjust the tension for Apex 4 and Vader 4 pro. Don't know about modding the dualsense tho

>>717355175
/x/ is less schizo than all popular boards and most lesser populated ones

>>717332916 (OP)
I've been using a SN30 Pro since forever and it still works perfectly, the only issue was the dpad with the misinputs but the tape mod fixed it

>>717356129
/x/ is unfortunately too tightly moderated because it's userbase is quite small compared to big boards
it would be an amazing place for baiting, but alas, for now we have to use /v/ for the baiting purposes

>>717332916 (OP)
>my pro 2 is 3 years old
>never had any problem with it
wash your hands rajeesh

>>717356310
why am I talking to myself and using 'we' again, I really don't get it

>>717353961
Sanwa's replacement for the older JLF. Not a huge improvement, just some small fine-tuning on the old lever.

Any recommended mini controllers besides joy cons for Nintendo Switch that I can easily throw in my backpack without worrying about sticks getting caught?
It'll just be for playing stuff like Mario Kart and Mario Party in the hotel or train for 2-3 people when I'm travelling in October
I'm thinking of getting a 8Bitdo Lite 2 or IINE Retro Pocket Game Controller
I might get some new joy cons due to the exchange rate but that'll likely be at the end of my trip

>>717352749
I see someone didn't grow up with a snes or Saturn controller

>>717353263
>Dual Shock
I mean your controllers will never break if you only "play" snoy movies lmao

>>717356451
Mini controllers all feel like shit. Just get a regular sized controller and maybe some stick locks. If you have the option to play wired, then get a tegenaria lite for 20 bucks and call it a day.

Protip: Look up Hall Effect controllers. Those things are very drift resistance.

>>717357456
I hate Indians so much it's unreal

>>717357456
A few anons here said that they can break anyway.

>>717356451
I've been debating between this, Gulikit Elves 2, or Shanwan Q38 for similar purposes.
IINE's the cheapest and most portable, recessed sticks so they don't snag things as easily in a bag or pocket is great.
Q38's same form factor as an 8Bitdo SN30, sticks protrude more than I'd like but I prefer circle mech d-pads.
Elves 2's a bit big, but should still fit in a cargo shorts pocket at least, and comes with a frosted acrylic carrying case matching the controller's shape, so the sticks will be protected in transit and it won't take up as much space as a typical controller bag.
I might personally be interested in third party joycons as an alternative, but I don't know shit about them and expect most of them to suck in some fashion.

>>717356696
>whataboutism

>>717346826
Wrong.

>>717332916 (OP)
Is their hitbox anygood?

>>717357691
You wouldn't know a good d-pad if you saw one.

>>717357847
something something authentic japanese parts something something
just beating the bots to the punch, I honestly don't know.

>>717357361
Thanks anon,
I was thinking mini controllers since I'll need to get a smaller backpack. I'm going to a small island and the plane I'll take has more restrictions on backpack size.
If they really are shit, I'll find a stick lock for my 8Bitdo Pro 2 and try to make room in my backpack.

>>717357605
I found the Shanwan Q38 before too but I dismissed it because the quality of the plastic seems off to me. I wasn't aware of the Gulikit Elves 2. I'll do some research on it.
For third party joy cons, I've got the Nyxi Hyperion Pro joy cons. They're alright although you need to turn the rumble off and it's not as ergonomic for my hands as I thought they'd be.
They're bigger than my 8Bitdo Pro 2 so I'm definitely not taking them.

>>717352163
It's actually quite meaty feeling In the hand, I don't think anyone with small hands would like using it. The only thing bigger than I've used is probably the dualsense or an OG duke

why did you buy a non TMR controller when TMR controllers where available?

>>717358263
Whatever helps you sleep at night 8bitdo shill

SAAAAAR PLEASE BUY THE GAMESIR I COME TO YOU

>>717332916 (OP)
Buy the hall effect version on amazon, put your busted controller in the box, return it

>>717358584
Because I bought my hall effect controller just before TMRs became available and I'm not pending more money.

>>717359403
gamesir looks cheap as all hell

>>717358475
It's more cramped if you have bigger hands. I have wide square palms and needed to buy some stick grips so I could hold the controller a bit looser. The back panels on the grips pop off like xbox controllers, so I have to wonder if someone can 3d print some kind of thicker grip that juts out to the side more.

>>717354991
Flydigi controllers have dogshit d-pads.

>>717359252
go play tetris on a DDR mat, you diagonal-phobic retard.

>>717352098
I have this thing and I really like it. I'm replacing it with pic related though.

>>717359521
TMRs where available before 6 moonths ago though

gaymesir removed the tarantula from the EU store, give me a another wireless symmetrical controller I can use for pc (and all the other platforms if possible)

>>717332916 (OP)
I had this problem, but it wasn't classic potentiometer stick drift. I opened it up and a bit of debris was disrupting the mechanism under the stick cover.

>>717359493
The hall effect version is worse, unironically, like they cheaped out on everything else and hoped the reputation of the pro 2 + hall effect meme would be enough.

>>717360129
Oh, that's gay, I moved away from 8shitdo to the KingKong2 and now the gamesir cyclone 2

>>717360067
A wireless version of the Tegenaria Lite is an inevitability at this point. It'll probably get its moniker upgraded to tarantula class. Either wait for that, or bite the bullet on the 8bitdo pro 3, which is coming out in a couple weeks.

>>717359808
And I bought my controller a year and a half ago

>>717360535
thanks, I'll check the pro 3 out and also wait for the T-lite, just so I can compare

>>717343140
>asymmetric sticks
they are scientifically better for comfort

top is the pro 2 with hall effect sticks and bottom is the ultimate 2 controller with TMR

>>717360732
>scientifically better for comfort
wrong. Its entirely a preference thing

>>717332916 (OP)
I've had mine for 4 years and it works perfectly fine. I play Nigthreign and Rivals of Aether 2 with it regularly and don't come across any issues.

>>717360772
Gamesir Supernova
Kneel

>>717360732
This is 2002 Microshill cope. It is based on the outdated assertion the right stick is a secondary input, and the only reason this was ever true was because Nintendo were retarded and only put one stick on the N64. Once all controllers had two sticks, the argument for asymmetric sticks vanished yet it carriers on at this point, I'm convinced, purely to spite Sony for getting it right in the first place.

I bought a wired 8bitdo 2c about three months ago and honestly, I'm still happy with it. I mostly played Nioh 2 on it and some Rivals of Aether 2 during the free trial and It feels pretty good.
I'm yet to play an emulated game on it, but I'll soon try it out.

>>717361042
still wont buy it it still looks like and probably is cheap shit

>>717360979
>>717361154
It's easier to stir when your finger is straight and not at an angle, it's also a natural resting position
just look it up, anons, MS wrote an entire paper on it

>>717361256
Those are Hall effect sticks btw. Gamesir's TMRs are even better and beat 8bitshit in every test.

>>717332916 (OP)
GameSaars won....

>>717361042
>>717361382
ok shill
this whole thread is just gamesaar shills
hilarious

>>717361382
and im telling you i dont care i will not own a controller made by a company named " gamesir" especially one that looks like a madkatz controller

>>717361309
>to stir
>MS wrote an entire paper on it
good morning saar, please redeem the paper saar, my 13 cousins are h1b at microsoft saar

>>717361459
They make better controllers, sorry anon.

>>717332916 (OP)
I refused to give these greedy kikes $70 for a new controller just to get jewed again so I just handed my controller to my local greek repair guy who fixed it for 20 bucks

>>717361582
i have never had stick drift on any first party controller and you fags insist you have to buy random $30 fugly memes off amazon if you want a controller that doesnt break in 2 days

>>717361309
This can't be the reason or both sticks would be at the top like on the Wii U controller.

>>717361493
>actually giving a fuck about brand names
I'd still buy it if it were called Dickasshole

>>717361751
its also the fact it looks like a madcatz controller or did you not read that part?

>>717361795
It looks like a Switch controller, it's the same exact shape

A little bit of stick drift is actually a good thing.

saar the gamesaar does not have this problem

>>717343042
this is about as madcatz as it gets
>>717361864

>>717361042
that's a different kind of deadzone setting you fucking shill

lotta 8bitshit coping going on ITT

>>717361729
two sticks on top sounds better for shooters, but it's actually harder to hit the face buttons when the buttons are under the stick compared to over it, so asymetric is actually superior even for shooters. The side-by-side layout the steamdeck has with the thick vertical grip is peak gaming performance, it's good for everything, and valve can't come out with Steam deck controller fast enough.

>>717352098
BASED BASED BASED

Does anyone have a fix for Steam making my Pro Controller spaz out?

>>717333734
average wallmart invention

>>717362386
how? in what way is it spazzing?!?!?!?!?!??!

>>717362386
hidhide + ds4windows
or use it over bluetooth instead of wired

>>717362273
Good morning saar

>>717362386
Get a xinput controller.

>>717362530
*an xinput controller

>>717332916 (OP)
what software is this?

>>717362530
None are as comfy as the Pro controller...
>>717362454
I will try hidhide. The weird thing is that it JUST started happening. I was having no problems until yesterday

>>717362672
the 8bitdo official software

>>717362680
>None are as comfy as the Pro controller
Xbox controllers are almost the same thing.

Sorry, but I cannot simply spend my money on a controller who is called gameSAAR.

>>717362329
>asymetric is actually superior even for shooters.
True. My thumb needs to move more to hit reload on my Wiiu pro controller compared to on my xbox controller.

>pressure sensitive buttons
>hall effect adaptive triggers with dynamic resistance
>TMR joysticks
>sixaxis gyro

thoughts? the only thing missing is being able to hot swap the sticks

>>717362329
Precisely why Sony had it right in the first place, it's easier to smack top buttons from bottom sticks than the other way around.

>>717351610
That's because 8shitdo fucked up as usual and made it bigger than the original nub, defeating the point of the nub's design.
The ancient ps3 PDP fightan controller is the only NeoGeo style controller outside of the original that has a proper nub.

>>717335879
Unironic pajeet

>>717363079
Sony only had it half right. The most common movements on the left stick are Up, and diagonal up, whereas with the right stick it's mostly left and right. With an asymetric layout, you can just comfortably push the left stick from the bottom, whereas a sony layout has you bending your thumb to push and pull.

8bitdo has the best controllers on the market for its price, none of mine have broken in anyway and i got 3 of them

snes
pro1
ultimate 2c
probably going to get the pro3 gamecube colour scheme

>>717363953
My pro1 and ultimate both had defects that I had to repair myself. Kind of annoying. I like the controllers otherwise

>>717332916 (OP)
happened to my switch pro, before it died completely

>>717355175
No shit, everyone at /x/ is pretending to be schizo for shits and giggles. It's like wrestling.

>>717333009
COMMENCE THE JIGGLIN'

>>717363408
>bending
......what? Your thumbs must be fucked or something. Moving your thumb up towards the top is a natural grip close, I don't see the problem.

I redeemed that Gamesaar for 23$, was it a good deal?

>>717332916 (OP)
For me the problem with these things was always the fucking RB/LB buttons going soft. I went through three of them because I really enjoyed the form factor but it happened to ALL three.

symmetrical sticks > asymmetrical sticks
How the fuck do you even contort your hand to use the dpad on asymmetrical?

>>717364627
I think people who have a problem with either of those layouts are seriously crippled.

>>717364447
>>717364742
Don't bother. People that are autistic about stick placement are usually fat and have weak hands. One of them unironically made pic related.

>>717364887

>>717364887
>>717365280

>>717332916 (OP)
>$60

I've been playing with the same 20 usd 8bitdo for years, only had to replace it once in the last 6ish years and got the same exact model.

>need a basic compact controller for controlling VR UI (cursor, scrolling menu, centering screen etc)
>pic related seems like the best for the size
>apparently it's shit
I just want something like this with not-shit joysticks, what should I get

>>717365865
what VR game does not work with only the motion controllers?

anyone else encountered the xinput bug that kills fps?

>>717365421
Me and my homies divining at the Salema sq.

today i ordered a retroflag classic controller 2.4g and a pb tails crush (the white one, xbox button layout) from aliexpress. i think they'll serve just fine for all my loonix gamen neets

>>717365421
>line of wealth
>don't have it
>actually poor irl

>>717366023
I'm a poorfag using Android VR for porn and the controller it came with is straight garbage that doesn't even detect inputs 70% of the time

>>717332916 (OP)
you are a fuckin idiot if you buy anything other than first party controllers

>>717366550
>drifts
nothing personal kid. That'll be another $80

>>717366550
must be nice to live in 2006

>>717366550
lol
lmao, even.
lel, perhaps.

>>717366550
i just took about my 8bitdo ultimate an its much better built than the official xbox series controllers

>>717364039
weird ive never had any issues with them

>$60
I remember getting my 8bitdo shit for like $25.
who's paying $60 for this? Just buy the OEM controllers, what the fuck.

>>717366550
My switch pro controller's right stick is barely usable, and I haven't even used it that much.

Plus with all of the joycon drift drama, I'd almost trust a 3rd party controller over ninetndo nowadays

>>717367237
>Just buy the OEM controllers
>*drifts*

>>717364479
that dpad looks awful

>>717367385
yes, like the image in the OP which is certainly not showing signs of drift, right?
You can at least return or RMA that shit. Good luck sending your chinktroller to guangzhou.

>>717367085
Its probably just a QA thing. The issues I had came up with a lot of posts when I googled them. On my pro 1 it was a ripped membrane under the face buttons. My ultimate had a back button that just straight up fell out. There is a tiny little plastic piece that snapped off. I was able to fix them both, and they have both seen a ton of use.

>>717366028
I might have but I think my controller was just shorting

>>717333734
>someone generated this image with AI a year ago
>today AI is able to make it move

>>717364887
I'm a fat piece of shit and my only problem with PlayStation style sticks is having enough space between them for counter-clockwise circle strafing (Left stick right, right stick left).

All these "natural thumb placement" arguments are fucking stupid.

lmao the fat fuck is now an official shill for gamesaars wtf
https://youtu.be/XqLP9FWczWM

>>717335072
>prekes

>>717368346
ok but he won with a DS5

>>717357191
All that matters is the dpad and ergonomics, and the dualshock has the best of both. You need a good dpad for old games and platformers.

>dual shock 4
lmao

>>717370921
Don't start acting childish because you got proven wrong.

>>717367271
When people say first party controllers they don't mean Nintendo.

>>717371037
shits awful, nigger. at least say DS2 to get taken seriously.

>>717332916 (OP)
That's $10 a month, which is basically nothing, to be fair.

>>717362817
This. They could make the best controller in the world and I still wouldn't buy it because of that branding.

>>717371216
That's horrible value in the tech market

>anons actually allowing 4chan memes to affect their lives
what the fuck

>>717371192
No dude, if the DS is bad then how is shit like >>717370565 happening? He's not using a 8bitdo, none of these folks are. These brown people use the DS because to play a fighting game on a controller (please don't do this) you need to use a very good dpad. There is never any reason to own anything made by 8bitdo.

you guys fell of cheap controllers because reddit told you the sony controllers get drift.

>>717371827
>symmetrical sticks
Ewww

>>717371629
>because to play a fighting game on a controller (please don't do this)
Opining disregarded, FGCtranny. I'm not buying a gay fightstick.

>>717351610
See this is my issue.
I was going to buy one of these to see how it was on shmups. I wanted the equivalent of some seimitsu models of sticks in a small form factor, but I see that with all that throw it's really fucking annoying.
I heard that "that's how the original neogeo controller was" and that the better one was actually the PS2 version. Curiously enough, I had that one, then foolishly sold it for cheap. It was way before I got into anything related to sticks, so I didn't even appreciate it much. Now I can't grab one for less than 200€. It's such fucking dogshit.

>>717372020
Play on a keyboard then, because if you get used to gamepad you're gunna have a hard time playing older games.

>>717371827
I don't give a fuck. I modded my Dualsense with TMR sticks just to be sure.

>>717372430
Why would you not wait until the sticks are dead, there is no such thing as good analog sticks or games that require precise analog input

For me it is Gamesir

>>717372329
What? I played plenty of games supposedly meant to be played with a gamepad on keyboard just fine, both old and new ones. I have no problem swapping from gamepad to KB and vice-versa.

The left stick's up/down on my ps5 controller causes my right stick to drift up and down. My controller is just fucked right? Started happening despite barely playing the 3 games this console has.

>>717372553
N

>>717372553
why do retards always have that really short thumb nail

>>717372629
Not fighting games, no. You're not doing a pretzel input on a dpad in a 20 year old game without a modern interpreter.

>>717372525
>or games that require precise analog input
But there be
Seriously it does make a difference. My gripe was calibration, these fuckers need overshoot or a few games don't recognize them properly.

>>717371827
>symmetrical sticks
Nice

I had this issue in my Dual-sense controller.
Fixed it using contact cleaner.
Mind you i never had to use contact cleaner on older controllers like my DS4 or 360 controller but still people can fix this.

>>717372767
Oh, you meant fighting games specifically, gotcha, gotcha.
I don't exactly see how I'm going to WASD or IJKL a pretzel input either, but then again I'm not really playing older fighting game competitively, I just like to go through the arcade mode with every character.

>>717372553
that dpad looks like a total shitshow

>>717334730
I haven't turned on my PS2 in years, but I remember those things having pretty large deadzones compared to modern controllers. Also when I was younger most of my friends' DS2 (and mine too) were messed up in one way or the other.
The DS4 I got almost 10 years ago, by comparison, has never had any issue.

>>717372952
Yeah, if you're just running arcade modes for fun then honestly who gives a shit. Most of those old inputs are forgiving enough that even mashed-out charge supers will land. It’s not until you hit the PvP autism where everyone’s kara canceling like it’s ‘07 that input method really starts to matter. You're good to go as-is, just don’t gas up keyboard as "superior" like the FGC schizos will snap if they smell that.

>>717359796
same here, excited to get ultimate 2 but symmetrical

>>717372952
>I don't exactly see how I'm going to WASD or IJKL a pretzel input either
You just do the inputs really fast. Inputs are often shortened. For example, a hc command grab is actually 486 in most fighting games.

>>717332916 (OP)
I've yet to have any 8bitdo sticks shit out. A button started sticking on one after a few years of heavy use, and a shoulder trigger on another went out when my damn cat knocked it off the desk. But the sticks have been solid.

>>717373609
>Yeah, if you're just running arcade modes for fun
Why would you ever play a fighting game against the cpu? I cannot imagine anything more braindead and boring. Do literally anything else.

>>717360067
Gulikit Elves 2 (not Pro), IINE Bastet, DS4/Dualsense, or wait for Pro 3
Symmetrical's sadly still rare, and symmetrical with good wireless is even rarer

>>717373994
I just generally dislike online play on principle. It doesn't matter if you're helping me or fighting me, I don't want to know there's a real person interacting with me in a videogame.

>>717333318
Ironically even their hall effect tmr sticks get stick drift

>>717374054
>good wireless
Never use a wireless peripherals for video games. It more than doubles input delay.

>>717374295
>I just generally dislike online play on principle
Then don't play fighting games. Playing against a CPU is easy and boring and not at all what fighting games are really like.

>>717374412
Not to me.
I have fun doing it.

>>717374329
There are Bluetooth controllers these days with lower latency than many wired controllers, grandpa.
Anon specifically requested wireless regardless.

>>717374443
Lots of people have fun doing stupid things, doesn't make their opinion valuable.

T4 Kaleid, owned for a year, dropped 3 times and on the 3rd time the right joystick got that 0.1% error difference, before that they were both 0.4%

>>717374474
>There are Bluetooth controllers these days with lower latency than many wired controllers
No there isn't. Wired is 4ms, Bluetooth is 8ms. On modern controllers.

>>717332916 (OP)
>GameSir ad

Do not redeem.

>>717374509
Yeah, and bitching about how I choose to play my videogames falls squarely into "Stupid things that are not valuable.".

>>717352098
I have this one. I'll let you know how it is after a couple years. The first ulti pro was pristine for the full 2 years I used it

>>717346939
>>717346694

Not controller company makes the analog sticks. 8bit now has many hall effect controllers. It seems some sort of patent has ran out, so all 3rd parties can shill hall effect sticks.

>>717362881
>Pressure sensitive buttons
>Most games use Xinput

whoops.

>>717374629
ok anon

>>717374796
I don't care about how you play video games. I am pointing out that how you play them means your input holds zero value. If you want to play in a way that makes your opinion worthless, that is your decision. However, when you afflict that opinion on others, it becomes their problem, so keep it to yourself.

8bitdo controllers have a grip angle for children.

>>717375140
Nah.
I will poison every well because I subsist on rainwater.

>>717375271
Perhaps we can put a Jewish star next to all your posts

>>717332916 (OP)
Happened with me.

>>717367237
You can typically buy an 8bitdo ultimate 2 for about 55 usd on amazon. That's a steal for a full featured 1000hz controller with a charging dock and native steam input. The Dualsense, xbox, and Switch 2 pro controllers will cost more and have less features.

>>717332916 (OP)
The SN30's only lasted about 5-10 hours before
-the dpad started registering the wrong inputs
-the shoulder buttons broke
-the face buttons got stuck when you pressed them

And those were the controllers that boosted them into popularity because they paid a bunch of youtubers to shill them, and amazon reviewers to give them 5 stars.

>>717375776
controller landscape was much more dire at the time and it was really cool to get a modernized nostalgia controller that was pretty damn close in feeling to the originals, if not as accurate in actual performance
>shoulder buttons broke
>face buttons got stuck when you pressed them
wait, what? how? were you blasting fucking ropes into your controller and gorilla handling it?

>>717375678
Just three months ago, I found the Wireless version of the Ultimate 2 for 49% off on amazon Belgium at 31,49 eurobux.
I bought one in black and another in white just for the hell of it.
It felt like a steal.

Does any third party have a dpad like the xbox series controller? That dpad is godly accurate but everything else about the controller sucks

>>717371827
those are straight up terrible.

>>717371827
Dualsense has some of the worst battery life I've ever seen in a wireless controller, the fucking Wii remote running on AAs lasted longer

>>717372553
I got this.

>>717332916 (OP)
Should have bought a gamesir nova lite for 20 bucks with hall effect sticks
>>717333734
jokes aside, unironically yes

>>717333073
>dark souls is unplayable
Gaming is healing.

>>717376035
>amazon Belgium
stop met te palen on /v/

>>717343548
It is square gated.
It's pretty alright especially for the price. Buttons are pretty close to sanwas (can tell the difference if you've got some side by side but otherwise not really). Stick is alright, definitely completely fine for most things but feedback was a little light on feedback and spring for fighting game inputs so I swapped it for a JLX, which wasn't too hard (had to solder it in but it was the most baby easy solder job ever with pads there for exactly that, and apparently there's a solder-free method too).

i use a ps4 controller i bought when the pro came out and thanks to our godking gaben, it literally just werks with every pc game i play (now including bloodborne) and not once has a controller issue caused me to lose, die, or somehow become disadvantaged in any game
skill issue
kys
etc. etc. etc.

kinda wish it had backpedals but thats my only complaint

>>717376035
You made out like a bandit. The Ultimate 2 wireless is in my opinion the current baseline standard for PC controllers. Every one of my future controller purchases is going to be compared to this thing until something surpasses it in quality at this price range.

>>717376035
>I bought one in black and another in white just for the hell of it.
Objectively speaking, purple is the best color.

>>717364887
>>717365280
>>717365421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C186Ppk1Lok

>>717377042
I bought the green one because they were out of purple.

>>717376864
https://www.amazon.com/eXtremeRate-Controller-Customizable-Redesigned-PlayStation-4/dp/B0DCBW7NSY
replacement daughterboard for USB-C charging and a back button kit

back button kit needs soldered in by you, daughterboard does not

So, I have a wired 360 controller, which after 15+ years of use the left stick is rusted, sticking when you try to move, severe drifting, needs deadzones on the far edges, dodgy dpad, and sometimes losing contact when you move the cable (the right stick however is still perfect)
8bitdo is bad, Gamesir is bad, OEMs are bad and expensive (for me at least), what are the other options? Logitech, replace the analog myself, stop using controllers altogether?

>>717377229
>8bitdo is bad
It isn't
>Gamesir is bad
It isn't
>OEMs are bad and expensive
Yes
>Logitech
Relic of a time when there weren't any better options
>replace the analog myself
A bit too involved for what you're wanting to do
>stop using controllers altogether
KB/M sucks fucking ass for anything ported from a console or having a simultaneous release

>>717377167
>I bought the green one because they were out of purple.
My condolences, people might mistake you for a latent trans yoshifag.

>>717332916 (OP)
Maybe you should stop throwing your controller in fits or rage

>>717377219
pretty cool, thanks ill keep it in mind, if nothing else it gives me an excuse to solder something
making it a usbc is the larger selling point, this micro port is retarded

>>717377431
Hey, some of us are yoshifags are just fags, okay?

ive literally never bought a 3rd party controller because the names "8bitdo" make me think of cheap chink shit from aliexpress and "gamesir" i refuse to buy because i will literally think and laugh about "DO NOT REDEEM" every time i see it

>>717376805
Ik kan enkel nog op /v/ praten over gamecontrollers
Al mijn werkcollega's praten over hun klein mannen of over auto's en pedelecs

>>717376925
I've been really happy with it and it fits my hand way better than I thought it would. I do wish it also had Switch support like the Pro 2 so I could use it for everything but it's not the end of the world.

>>717377042
I contemplated getting it too but getting three of the same controller and leaving two unopened in my closet for who knows how long didn't sit well with me.

>>717372553
Wash your hands Anon, it's so dirty it looks brown;

>>717377817
>Al mijn werkcollega's praten over hun klein mannen of over auto's en pedelecs

>>717332916 (OP)
>disassemble controller
>wipe everything down with a damp cloth
>no problem
it's not hard

>>717332916 (OP)
What's the best cheap controller that doesn't look tryhard or like a toy? DualSense is nice, but too expensive.

>>717332916 (OP)
You guys know that pc gaming controller has been perfected for 20 years now right?

>>717332916 (OP)
>cheap shit.... breaks?
laughing in my dualsense edge with replacable sticks for... $20

>>717332916 (OP)
Can't relate

What is the controller that is most like the Pro controller for Switch? I tried the 8BitDo 2c and I don't like it at all.

>>717377987
gamesaar tegenaria lite

>>717332916 (OP)
just change the sensitivity

>>717377817
>I've been really happy with it and it fits my hand way better than I thought it would
I strongly recommend buying some thumbstick grips for just a tiny bit more height and width on the sticks. I bought these for my steam deck and had the shortest ones laying around, they're perfect for this controller.

>>717343140
>Snoy steps away from self-sodomy long enough to post.
lmao

>>717377892

>>717332916 (OP)
I've had my 8bitdo Ultimate 2.4G controller (cost 25 bucks for it and the wireless dock when I got it) since February of 2024. It is still functioning flawlessly and I use it everyday on PC. No drift (hall effect sticks), no sticking on buttons, no false inputs, no wobbling, no creak. Can't say the same for numerous Xbox/PS first party controllers which just don't last. Razer is similar trash to first party (made the mistake once with the Wolverine, never again).
Personally I don't see why you'd buy anything BUT 8bitdo if you're gaming on PC or Switch (got an Ultimate 2 for gyro on switch 2, TMR sticks and on-board profiles for button remapping for the win).

>>717378031
>That D-pad.
Nah.

>>717378529
It's fine. Type of game that needs a dpad doesn't even need a controller anyway.

>>717378529
The d-pad being hot garbage makes perfect sense with the knowledge that it wasn't designed or intended for anything more complex than menuing, or for Gears of War weapon wheels/shoutouts

>>717378031
>>717378495
>>717378675
>terrible dpad
>terrible bumpers
>terrible face buttons
>ds3 and the wiimote were also dogshit

7th gen was not a good time for 1st party controllers

>>717378729
Anon you may be confused, my post was about the 8bitdo which does not suffer the issues of the 360 wired controller (which was great for its time imo).

Can someone recommend me this but a lot smaller? I got it and it's way too fucking big and uncomfortable

>>717378318
I couldn't agree more.
I still had some from the same brand for my DS4's before and used them on this controller too. They're a little loose but they aren't falling off so it's good enough.
If the ones you posted have a better fit I may get them at some point.
I'm pretty sure I used the middle on the left stick and the the tallest on the right.

>>717378729
Xbox 360 controller Just Works™ on pc. you dont need to do any configuration with it. just plug it in and it works for pretty much any game. All my Fight sticks are 360 sticks for this reason as well. They work better on windows than the ps3 sticks.

It has a hard wire you dont have to worry about the port at the top waring from going in and out. The USB starts to ware? that's fine get a new break away if need be (rare)

Face buttons are Goated, Shoulders are fine, (better than any DS other than 2) D-pad leaves something to be desired but is reliable (sturdy, not accurate)

easy to get parts for aswell. Just the best, most reliable, most readily avalible, easily repairable controller you can get.

>>717377770
>he needs to look at his controller while playing
besides, a good laugh does you good and if you just laugh when you pick it up to play you know you're in for a good time

>>717378905
You want either an SN30 Pro (the same thing with no handles) or a Lite 2 (flat pocket controller)
Recommend also the IINE Retro Pocket Controller (pic related)
Your options are limited for symmetrical controllers

>>717332916 (OP)
I don’t have issues with joysticks because I don’t use that shitty antiquated technology.

>>717379231
I'll be honest, I'm tempted to buy a gamesaar sometime in the future because the name is very funny.

>>717378729
I agree with Six-Axis and Wii mote. Wii classic controller and CCPro also suck. Wii had no good controllers. Playstation's 6A controller is just terrible all round. One of the worst controllers ever. Easily sony's worst. Awful sticks, awful triggers, Super cheap and flimsy. DS3 a little bit better than Six-axis, But only because of how much more sturdy it is. batteries in them are dog shit and these days most 6A\DS3's have hard time keeping charge.

>>717376864
>>717377523
oh recommend also if you want alternative thumbsticks while you've got the controller open: ignore literally everything extremerate has in the other recommended purchases, get dualsense edge clone caps instead https://www.amazon.com/eXtremeRate-Thumbsticks-Replacement-Interchangeable-Controllers/dp/B0CP238DPT

>>717379070
>If the ones you posted have a better fit I may get them at some point.
They're definitely snug and don't wobble around. I think they probably have more padding inside so they can make contact with the capacitive touch sensor on the steam deck's sticks. It's amazon, and the packaging can easily be put back together so it looks like new for a refund, so I'd recommend buying a set just to try it out.

For me it's

>>717335243
redeem

>>717335243
I refuse because the name is so fucking putrid. It feels cheap just in name.

>>717380218
Thank goodness you've walled yourself off from good controllers because of /int/'s influence, that's one more in stock for me

retards really got zogged into buying first party trash in 2025 for the most retarded reasons.

>>717332916 (OP)
As much as I love the way the dpad feels, why the fuck do they always break down?

>>717380656
As I recall you can snag a SNES d-pad from a broken or for-parts controller (both the d-pad piece and its underlying membrane) and put them in a Pro 2 or SN30/SN30 Pro

>>717351495
Jokes on you dumbass, first party is shit too!

any controller without hal analogs should go to a landfill

>>717379646
Thanks anon, I just realized I also had some of these left.
New name for the same brand.
These fit way better than the DS's so I'll use these for now and see if I prefer these or the feel of the others.

what is the best symmetrical controller?

>>717381292
a woman

>>717381292
Wii U Pro.

>>717381368
Women are generally asymmetrical.
One boob will be slightly bigger than the other and the face will also have small asymmetries.

>>717379346
>no handles
Scary but I'll try it. The one in the image doesn't have xinput apparently and I don't know if I'm down wit the square shape of the Lite 2. Thanks.

>>717382948
cool pic, cringe franchise

>>717381292
>cheap
Gamesir Tegenaria Lite, $20
>expensive
Dualsense or Dualshock 4 with a fuckton of mods like bigger batteries and TMR sticks
>expensive but also off-the-shelf
8bitdo Pro 2 (hall effect)
IINE Bastet
Avoid the Gamesir Tarantula Pro, they're discontinuing it for good reason (imprecise microswitch d-pad everybody fucking hated the feel of, extremely complex design for no payoff, latency problems that can't be resolved without a complete firmware rewrite)
Most likely the upcoming 8bitdo Pro 3

>>717379474
Steam controller has a joystick though

>>717377987
>DualSense is nice
i got mine at 55 euros during a sale. if you keep an they happen often.

I bought a hexgaming rival and what I did not realise, because who the fuck would want this, is that it had mouse-click triggers. Not "you can adjust the trigger pull" no, the triggers have less movement than a fucking mouse button. The more expensive versions have adjustable triggers but I got the one version that can't be adjusted. Fortunately I was able to return it.

Third party controllers dont seem worth it to me since quality control is allowed the place. Chances are you'll get something that feels like shit to use or that breaks quickly. Just get an xbox controller.

>>717384086
subtle trolling

>>717377523

>>717384220
The only official controller that's ever given me problems is the dualsense (had drift on 2 of the fucking things now). Everything else continues to just werk for years. All I ever hear about third party is shit breaking.

>>717379346
My main point of paranoia with that is the screw holes on the back near the shoulder buttons. They look positioned to dig into middle finger knuckles.

>>717384645
https://www.amazon.com/Ehanmu-Self-Adhesive-Rubber-Bumpons-Diameter/dp/B06XCNM69B
Get some rubber bumpers and put them over the screw holes if you find them uncomfortable

Why has there not been a single fucking company that has made a controller based off the prototype NES controller? It looks really good & is better than the shit we got.

>>717384968
Wow that legitimately looks awful

I guess you could look at knockoff PC Engine controllers or that one 8bitdo PCE clone

>>717384968
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>717379840
>That D Pad

>>717379840
that dpad looks like it causes physical pain regardless of genre. imagine playing a fighting game with that thing where you slide your thumb more often. what the fuck is that?

>>717385120
Explain to me how this is awful? The prototype looks way more comfortable to use, the start & select being above the A & B buttons are the main reason it would be so much better, who ever thought that they would be better in the middle of the controller are absolute fucking retards. Now you have to move your fucking thumb all the way to the middle of the controller to use them.

>>717379840
>D Pad

>>717385793
Imagine how you hold it for 1 minute. the hand fatigue from the first 2 angles you think of it would be ridiculous. You might as well make a keyboard.

>>717385868
start/select are close enough to a/b for accidental inputs too

So does the Vader 4 have these problems?

My Pro 2's USB C port starting randomly disconnecting during gameplay so I threw it on my floor until it was in 20 something pieces. Then threw the pieces out my back door in a fit of rage. Sticking to Series X controllers.

>>717364887
now hold something controller shaped in your hand and show the same thing

got this for $20, pretty good for the price.

>>717332916 (OP)
Why are you twitching your thumbstick like you have cerebral palsy? Kill yourself

>>717386713
Yes plus other problems and all for triple the price

>>717332916 (OP)
Its called 8bitDOH because you do a homer-simpsonesque "Doh!" when you get duped by them

>>717385798
That dpad is actually great. It's copied from the Microsoft sidewinder gamepad which was overwhelmingly the best available PC controller at the dawn of emulation. Mesning tons of neo geo

>>717386887
I am incredibly confused why you would use a controller wired today. I guess your behavior kind of explains generally doing things poorly

A lot of dumb people think wired is somehow hard-core or authentic, today it just means you are a tech illiterate casual or poor. Poor is always OK

>/v/ is actually full of potentiometer-based analog stick shills
the absolute state

>>717332916 (OP)
>30 mins to fix
I swear to god gamers are the most retarded motherfuckers. Fuckers would rather spend another $150 on a replacement Elite controller then unscrew 4 screws and clean a fucking nub.
>Applecucks are even worse
Fuck repairing electronics, I'm so glad I got out of that shitfest. People are so fucking dumb & lazy.

>>717388885
they're just being disabled contrarians

>>717333318
I have an 8-bitdo and it's fine. Although I only use it for emulation for N64 and before so maybe that's why lol....

>>717332916 (OP)
I tried to warn yall the 8butdo sticks are dogshit. My 2 controllers from them broke. Theyre DOGSHIT

>>717390819
Good morning saar

>>717390880
My ps3 controller still the best

>>717374570
Now you have to drop it on the other side.

>>717333734
Gamesir is so fucking funny to me I can't help myself

>he fell for the meme

They call it marketing anon

If you see some dumb nigger promoting a product ignore it next time

mines still working fine even after a year
i need a 2.4 for the pro2 though
bluetooth sucks

Whats a good controller with 6 face buttons. I hate using the left side triggers because my left hand is semi fucked and disabled

>>717374304
hall effect gets drift, only marketing ever said otherwise
hall effect isn't new either, saturn has had it, ps3 has had it, vita had it
and we know both types of sticks in vita are very prone to drift

>>717380275
Game, Sir

>>717391689
If you want Saturn layout, 8Bitdo M30. There's some dirt cheap noname USB Saturn controllers as well, no idea if they're any good but I have one on the way since it cost negative money.
If you want Xbox controller S layout, Flydigi Vader 4 Pro. Don't know of anything else still in production that does the same layout.
All the extra buttons on something like Gamesir Tarantula or ZD O+ might compensate effectively for you too, but both have latency issues.

>>717391824
Yes, thank you sahib, I will enjoy a video game with this fine controller you've brought me.

>>717360772
>pro 2 with hall effect sticks
?

>>717392103
They updated some of their older controllers with hall effect sticks as well a year or two ago
That anon's also using the Switch mode that has increased diagonal overshoot on the Pro 2 though so it's a disingenuous comparison and not one that matters even if it wasn't, there's a time and place for everything

>>717391926
neat, these look like they'll do the job. Thanks for the tip anon

>>717332916 (OP)
8bitdo is weird. Their controllers feel great, they don't feel cheap. Then some random shit breaks. Mine started registering multiple buttons at the same time. Press A, and Y presses too, and vice versa. Hit the right shoulder and both sticks register as being held down. I want to like their shit.
Other than that, the angle of the handles really has to open up. My wrists are bent at like 90 degrees.

>lasts for 20 years on a single change of batteries

>>717391998
I dig the aesthetics of this controller. Just can't do sticks on bottom for 3D games. I have the GameSAAR G8+ mobile controller. Originally got it for my phone for emulating but turns out it works for Switch 2 and that fixes the joycons feeling like ass. Sublime controller. So I imagine that thing is nice too.

>>717392103
SN30 Pro, Pro 2, and Ultimate controllers all got permanent revisions into being hall effect controllers

>>717332916 (OP)
I just want a 360/Xbone shaped conrtoller with a PSP Vita Dpad and hall effect or TMR sticks
Is that asking for too much???

>>717394195
PXN P5 8K
>it might be dome switch, but it's not the same shape as Vita externally!
>it might advertise being driftproof, but that's a capacitive stick!
You're asking for too much.

>>717334730
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overproduction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

>>717394304
I just need a gullikit with Vita Dpad
they put extra buttons no one asked for on it

>>717394195
probably asking too much that vita dpad

>>717341670
Why is this half the price of an 8bitdo ultimate? is it cheaping out somewhere?

>>717396562
but there on cheap chinese mini PCs

>>717333734
>Indian sitting on a toilet
Ok there's no way this is real

>>717337553
He bought a gamesaar he obviously can't afford the greatest controller of all time.

>>717382948
erm, how is this, uh, still up...I can uh, see her.....lady parts x.x

>>717332916 (OP)
>third party controller
>oh no the dead zone is increasing!!!

>>717390965
the best part is its chinese

I have a message for everyone in this thread that has a controller they love, buy another one now. I am you from the future, someday your controller will fail and you will be left with nothing. Heed my warning! Buy a backup today while they still make them. You still have a chance to change your future. Don't repeat my mistake.

>have had my pro 2 for ~4 years now, not a single issue
>even ended up getting it for free thanks to amazon support staff in india
works for me :)

>>717401274
What are you talking about? My favorite controller is right
*reaches*
*the camera cuts awkwardly and my hand appears frozen while the controller sitting on the desk fades away transparently*
Here....

>>717337942
i bought a wired 8bitdo controller and i like it :)

>>717341773
They're smart enough to know hygiene, outside of actually preventing the transmission of harmful bacteria and diseases, is an illusion lived in by normies. Everything is covered in literally trillions of germs, including the air you breath, 100% of the time you've been alive. Cleaning is for people that are ignorant of that fact.

8bitdo controllers are much better desu

>>717401274
this but for mice
where are my ambidextrous mice with right side thumb buttons

>>717332916 (OP)
theres a reason we call them 8shitdo

>>717332916 (OP)
do i bite the bullet and get the pro 3, i usually like these symmetrical style controllers

>>717387009
and it's among the best looking rgb effects I've seen in a controller

>>717402813
>mx G400
>just keeps being remade over and over
>g400s>mx510>mx518>mx518 remake

>>717404573
It looks like someone glitterbombed it.

>go on ali
>Get 15 dollar gamesir/8bitdo
>Wireless, usb charging, low lag but feel kind of cheap and plasticky
Just do this if you're poor. They're fine. I have two.

Just play on KBM you fucking faggots, unless you're playing a racing game or playing on the go, Controllers always get btfo by PC players

>>717407378
It's nice for sitting back to relax with action games and stuff too. Sort of useful for flight/space sims if you don't want to have flightsticks on your desk.

>>717407378
how do you even play flying sims, ape escape and katamari damashi on KBM

>>717406493
but it's mx500>mx510>mx518>g400>g400s>mx518 hero

>>717334730
Each tiny dot is registered as a separate movement. The more of these zones you add, the more chance for failure points. Ps2 only has 60 dot areas while modern controllers have3x to 5x the amount of dots/zones. More dots = finer precision, but it comes at the cost of having higher chances at failure rates.

>>717407378
i barely play any fps games. keyboard is terrible for third person games.

>>717332916 (OP)
these controllers are like 20-30 dollars though

>>717396584
The basic Elves 2 doesn't have all the options the Pro does.

>>717355175
>schizo
Low iq moment

>>717354902
Its a meme, batman

>>717408790
not in my cunt. european tax is a thing

>>717338032
Or maybe wireless just sucks

>>717384968
my hand is in pain just by looking at that thing

I bought equipment, learned how to solder and installed TMR sticks into my controller in an evening.
Problem, manufacturers? Planned obsolescence not working out now?

>>717397640
It's real, I just went to the toilet.

>>717333734
But why is their logo a chicken. Can they at least put that shit and the big GAMESIR logo on the back of the controller.

>>717378726
then why making Mushihimesama Futari and Dodonpachi Saidaioujou xbox 360 exclusives

>>717332916 (OP)
Still unbeatable.

>>717343548
any non-shit arcade stick is square gated, using anything but square gate is retarded

>>717409776
> Original Japanese Arcade Machines would like to talk with you.
You can easily mod it with an octagonal gate though.

>>717409691

>>717409914
>octagonal gate
disgusting

>>717409138
Looking at that picture is like bad diarrhea, you think it's over but more keeps coming.

>>717409967
> The crappy wireless version with known flaws.
> F310 didn't have any of those flaws.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes, some say the controller is still undamaged at the bottom of the sea. Logitech built quality at the very least, lmao.

>>717410041
its better for fighting games due to D-Inputs Square is better for SHMUPs yeah.

>bro you don't understand like controllers have gotten so much better
>drifts
AHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOTS.

>>717407378
>Controllers always get btfo by PC players
This hasn't been true for nearly 10 years. Autoaim is too fucking good. Even PC players are using controllers for that sweet autoaim and remember autoaim doesn't have to be visual. The game absolutely doesn't have to show you it's doing autoaim.

>>717410180
fighting games are for low iq niggerchimps and kids without the skill to play shmups

>>717337942
>I hate this wireless meme
then don't buy one retard, get a 10 ft USB cable

>>717410774
he'd just somehow hang himself with it

>>717332916 (OP)
Ever since PS4 dual shock drifted after 7 years, I've gone through 5 of these cheapo chinkshits.
They are nice, but don't last.

>>717387423
You kinda have to use the Dualsense wired on PC for the haptic feedback to work. And it lets you overclock your controller. Most do 1khz, DS can do 8khz. It's a lot better than Bluetooth.

>>717407378
KBM are for FPS only, and only COD subhuman use a controller for FPS.
1st world, US + Jp + Western Europe games with controllers.

Is the Vader 4 Pro still the top aliexpress chinesium?

>>717412353
>KBM are for FPS only, and only COD subhuman use a controller for FPS.
you're right, thats why most age of empire 2 and starcraft 2 pros use controllers to play

>>717412843
>console snowcoons
>"pros"

>>717412704
wait for 5

>>717412704
Overhyped overpriced garbage

>>717333073
I played through DS1 and 3 with a drifting Nintendo Pro Controller. It’s not that big of a deal.

>>717366550
Microsoft raped me with that awful Xbox Elite 2, never again.

>>717413252
Not him, but that 8bitdo PRO uses SNES style shoulder buttons and it cant survive soulslike combat of constant R1 mashing, Elden Ring destroyed mine, great controller otherwise, shame.
I still used to play NES games.

>>717413381
buy elite series 2
>drifts within a year
buy core cheaper version when released to use old elite parts with
>drifts within a year
>series x launch controller that's beat to shit
works great, no drift, use it daily still.

best ps5 compatible third party controller, with hall effect or TMR? Dualsense is actual trash

>>717334730

They're all made in China with the cheapest materials possible.

I got an Xbox elite controller, within 3 months, probably only 100-150 hours used the rubber is already coming off of it, the A button is double pressing and one of the bumpers is getting wobbly.

yes

>>717334730
they want to squeeze consumers by getting them to buy 3 new controllers atleast, per console cycle. If you want a controller with removable sticks you have to pay 200+ dollars for one, and each replacement stick you buy from them will be 20+ dollars each. It's literally planned mandatory console DLC - this is why you should laugh at consolefags for making price arguments vs PC.

>>717367237
>>717367456
You aren't supposed to point this out in the shill threads.

I actually really like the 8shitdo ultimate 2C
It's only 30 burgerbux but is probably the best budget controller I've used, it has the form factor of the switch pro but a much better analog and clicky dpad. The buttons and bumpers are a little chunkier but not awful feeling by any means.

Probably the biggest pro otherwise is very very little input delay compared to bluetooth with the dongle and a pretty great battery life. I say this as someone who fucking hated OP's 8bitdo controller, now that was actual garbage that felt awful to hold and apparently had tons of issues when it came to both analog and dpad.

>>717409776
good to know. might try getting one during a sale or something.

>>717418009
i really like these colors for some reason.

>>717396584
Compared to the Elves 2 Pro which it's also nearly half the price of, no HD rumble or macros but the Bluetooth chipset is significantly better.

>>717409620
Guangzhou Chicken Run is the parent company.
They were thinking about changing the logo to something else earlier this year, but I'm guessing staying the course won the vote.