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>letting ea rape your pc by installing kernel level bloatware pretending to ben anti cheat
lmao
>>717338213 (OP)You've got something to hide anon? No one cares that you get off to scat.
>>717338316>erm nobody cares about your personal informationalso corporations:
>yes our privacy policies do state that we can harvest your personal files & browser history and our financial records show we're making billions from selling personal information
I don't blame EA, I blame cheaters.
>>717338469Again, they don't care anon, you're not special enough to warrant them going through your shit.
>>717338213 (OP)I already have like 10 kernel level anti cheats installed on my computer so who cares about another one.
>>717338213 (OP)Its funny because this doesnt stop my DMA card at all. You will give up control of your pc for nothing lol
>>717338213 (OP)>โfirst they came for the pedophiles and I did nothingโ whataboutism
>>717338578Haha, everyone's shit is being gone through, new and old. Large data models and AI go hand in hand.
Part of the reason for the newest round of restrictions really. And you can't beat ring -1 attacks by Intel and other kike chips anyway.
>>717338213 (OP)This post brought to you by seething troonix user.
>>717338578Stop stealing it then? Fucking retarded kike.
PC cucks can't play multiplayer games anymore
>>717338213 (OP)This is why I play on console.
>year is 2025
>if you want to play competitive FPS, then you will either let the corpos access to your PC, or you will allow the chinks and ruskies to ruin your game by aimbotting all day long
FPS is now meant to be COOP only, anyone still playing those games is fucking retarded lmao
If you want absolute privacy go live in the woods and hunt your own food.
Living in a civilized society means accepting certain risks.
>>717338316>you should not fight those who attempt to appoint themselves as your GodRepent or go to the abyss.
>>717338529Cheater here.
No amount of corporate simping and glowfag malware can stop me, LMAO
>>717338316Corporations have a big database on each and every one of us, they know what you bought during your lifetime, how often you watch porn and what are the keywords you look for. They scan google/aislop searches, private chats and phone conversations.
This may be something you're okay with, but I certainly never asked for this.
>>717338581this
the life of a gacha fag
>>717338213 (OP)Just buy a PlayStation then
>>717338974Build a pc where you only game on. Idiot.
So what exactly is wrong with secure boot?
>>717338213 (OP)im glad that they are filtering tech illiterate zoomers and pajeets who dont know how to access bios
>>717339158This. Staying a head of the curve and getting the newest private cheats isn't an issue (as long as you've got money). This really only affects those who download free cheat software or try to edit the game files somehow.
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>PC cucks make fun of console users for paid online
>now they can't even play online
You get what you pay for I guess
>>717338316Then upload a selfie to prove you're not below the age of 18. You've got nothing to hide, right?
This wouldnt be a problem with community servers, you just ban the cheaters
>>717339112>go live in the woods and hunt your own food.Literally illegal almost everywhere in the world
You're an absolute retard if you think anyone can live completely independent of the state
>>717338213 (OP)Name one reason why kernel level anticheat with secure boot is bad
>b-but it means they have complete control over your pcDont care
>b-but it will be hard to removeI can deal with it
>b-but kernel anticheats have been used in ransomware malwareNot my problem
>b-but it will spy on everything you doI have nothing to hide. Do you?
>>717339504hi corpo shill
Can you name one reason why kernel level anticheat with secure boot is good?
>it stops cheatersIt doesn't.
What is left?
>>717339358as a consolepleb you ARE malware
>>717339504>Name one reason why kernel level anticheat with secure boot is badIt's pointless because it doesn't even stop cheaters.
>>717339361>Then upload a selfie to prove you're not below the age of 18What's the issue with this?
>>717339356Any and every time an anti-something measure is introduced, it inconveniences the alleged offenders for a short time and then proceeds to make actual law-abiding customers miserable for years if not longer. No exceptions.
>>717338610>heh, I will just be forced to buy highly expensive hardware to cheat, get ownedDo cheat cucks really think this is a flex?
>only secure boot
lmao
>*shims in custom boot key and goes back to cheating*
>>717339740cheating hasnt been free for a decade atleast
>>717339738Well? Go ahead.
>giving up your privacy like it's nothing
lol
>>717339740I bought it years ago dude, it has paid off very well, dont need to waste my time keeping up with anticheat fuckery
>>717339258what the fuck are you on about you nigger
I built my pc, this isn't what I'm saying, did you even read what the thread is about?
how can you miss the context this hard
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>>717338213 (OP)>anti cheats get more and more intrusive>games are still full of hackers
>>717338213 (OP)I get off on the idea of EA doing what it wants to my PC whilst I have to just sit there and watch.
>>717339889Oh so youโre just retarded. Got it. If you are worried about Jews accessing your pc then play on a pc where you only game on. Then have another pc where you keep all your info on. How hard is that to understand?
You gave up your privacy the minute you bought a smartphone, installed windows or used an internet browser, stop thinking there's still any way for you to get away from the surveillance
All this "don't install this, don't install that" is just larping, you're connected to the internet, you're getting spied on, deal with it
>>717339740If you're a cheat enjoyer, spending some money on a good cheat is worth it. You often play 1000+ hours in some of these games.
It's like buying a car with shitty seats. You replace them if you have the money.
>>717339740A DMA card costs less than one BF6 license.
We don't need that to wreck some gaymers currently, but if we use it in the future, we will buy it.
I happily pay big bucks to wreck your globohomo game.
>>717339845NTA, but you're not EA. I can't hold you accountable if you leak my information, I'd gladly submit one to EA but not some random Anon.
>>717339158never said I'm playing it whereas you're now gonna have spyware on your pc if you didn't already.
>>717338213 (OP)got something to hide?
>>717338316Give us remote access to your computer right now.
these are the huwite gamers /v/ talked about huh?
>>717340038>well you already have one of our boots up your ass, why not take another one? Are you racist or something?
>>717340038well the whole point is to push against this trend, you can certainly limit what is know about you online to a level where it's not an issue yet
Doesn't matter. DICEfags won. Battlefield will become the new Call of Doody.
>>717340114>I can't hold you accountable if you leak my informationSurely, I can hold the corporation accountable this time!
>>717339223ok so when does Bill Gates send me a twink or darkwaifutrap on my doorstep
>>717340114>ea>accountableGood luck beating their lawyer army
nice b8 faggot
>>717340114>I can't hold you accountable if you leak my informationIf you have nothing to hide, a leak is irrelevant by definition.
It sounds to me like you actually have something to hide.
>>717340113Pay them, piggy. Spend those big bucks of yours.
>>717338213 (OP)You still didn't show us the steam account saar
>>717340315when a leak happens and you are on a hit list of confirmed fags
>>717339943League and Valorant have literally no cheaters thanks to Vanguard, lying retard. If anything other games should up their anticheats to match Vanguard so we can finally have total cheater death.
>>717340114>I have nothing to hide>except for the information that I want to hideyou may be onto something here
>>717340395Man I can't wait for my 5g vaccine to turn on and send me pics directly into my spines
>>717340313>>717340324Yes, class actions happen all the time.
>>717340350>>717340441>wtf you'll let your friends in your house but not robbers
>>717338213 (OP)only people that care about this are faggot cheaters
>>717338578Not that guy, I don't want an AI model of me being used to manipulate me into buying products at prices it thinks are just below what I won't pay. I know that's where this is going in a few years. Variable pricing based on who you are, what you post, your movements tracked by phone to different stores, and everything you've done online up until that moment.
The only thing that will stop cheaters is the Digital ID.
Only a proof of identity can safe gaming.
>>717340403This is objectively false though, literally no one plays Valorant seriously anymore because of the rampant cheating retard.
>>717340273you either go full Ted Kaczynski or be pragmatic and accept that living in modern society means having little privacy
I'm not saying it's a good thing, far from it, my point is that all this "muh kernel, muh vpn, muh linux" is all purely performative, either go raise sheep in the mongolian steppes or shut the fuck up and stop pretending you're an edgy hacker wearing sunglasses in front of the computer
>The ultimate all-out warfare experience. In a war of tanks, fighter jets, and massive combat arsenals, your squad is the deadliest weapon.
Are Dice aware that tanks are completely useless in modern war?
>>717340403>League and Valorant have literally no cheaters thanks to Vanguardlmfao someone tell him about the $1000 private cheats
>>717340474your grandchild may be able to see this message in the future you know
>>717340591>source : I never played the game but saw other people on /v/ who never played it say that it's full of cheaters
>>717339223but to what end
>>717338581is the new meta to use exploits in kernel anti cheats to cheat in other games?
>>717340665how the fuck am supposed to have kids if am a homo
>>717340608>you either go my retarded strawman way #1 or my retarded strawman way #2 or else plz just accept another boot up your ass and stay quiet pleaseeeee
>>717340609>Are Dice aware that tanks are completely useless in modern war?Only the heavy bullshit tanks.
Like 70 to Abrams or 65 to Leopards.
Or the now discontinued M10 Booker that was such a miserable thing, that the US army had to build new bridges on their very own bases, because the old ones couldn't take the weight.
If you have to rebuild your training grounds to make it possible for your new tank to drive, how would it perform on an actual battlefield?
>>717340710the point is people will get burned by this
>>717340521Why does your friend need you to give him access to your computer?
Why does your friend don't believe you wont cheat?
Why is your friend selling you a game instead of just giving it to you for free?
>>717340705Any vulnerable kernel driver could do, its a strategy known as Bring Your Own Vulnerable Driver(byovd) if it ships with the cheat or Living of the Land Drivers(loldrivers) if its already present.
Some malware have also just used kernel anticheat drivers to operate thanks to how intrusive they are which falls under byovd iirc.
>>717340521>i don't have anything to die>except all the things that I want to hide selectivelyso you DO have things to hide, well well well...
>dO yOu HaVe SoMeThInG tO hIdE???
Do you think about how often what is acceptable changes?
How witch-hunts go on people who have wrong think?
Whoโs to say that what you confidently and publicly stand behind now wonโt be the thing that gets you fired tomorrow?
>>717341084Surprised M$ hasn't stepped in to stop this shit like Apple has. People seethe about losing macfuse and firewall stuff, but preventing corps from being able to force users to install kernel shitware was probably the only thing "based" Tim Apple has done.
my whole corporate windows computing experience is directly fucked by this dogshit it's unreal.
>>717340521>Yes, class actions happen all the time.So does sex and yet you are still a virgin so what is your point?
>>717338974>No server hosting yourselfYeah, that's why the genre is shit now. You can't moderate your experience and kick those Ruskies and Chins out.
>>717340521>class actions happen all the timeAnd yet nothing ever happens
>>717340403Delusional and not paying attention. Valorent has as many cheaters as Counter-Strike does.
>Not a single anon mentioning Win10 24 and up and Win11 force you to have secure boot anyways
>>717338316This. Only pedos and degenerates fear anti cheat.
>>717341468that's not true I have win 11 and didn't enable secure boot till I downloaded bf6
>>717338213 (OP)What's with hordes of zoomers thinking anticheat software will compromise your PC? Did that pajeet Mutahar convince them to be angry over something? I swear it didn't use to be this insufferable during Punkbuster days.
>>717339223Is ZuckerBergface some kind of spy-master boss? How did this happen? This is too Meta.
>>717341468an operating system needing it and a video game needing it are two very different things.
>>717338213 (OP)Don't forget to ban linux players. It worked for Apex
>>717338578if they care so little about then why are they collecting it?
>>717340032>bro just use two different PCsholy fuck how inconvenient, how about you get fucked and I don't install their kikebots, retard
>b-but you won't get to play the last battleslopwoe is me
>>717339242PlayStation actually sends telemetry of anything and everything you do on the system to Sony by default, right out of the box. With no way to turn it off.
>s-stop resisting right this instant, you unruly peons!
>there was NO historical precedent of things being anything but one extreme caricature or another extreme caricature!
>EVER!
>>717339778They require TPM 2.0 because TPM 2.0 has access to additional attestation features over TPM 1.x - which allow them to check if you've 'tampered' with the 'standard' boot keys by adding your own ones.
>>717338529This won't stop cheaters.
>>717339223>>717341598>In the early 21st century, tensions between tech giants reached a boiling point. Meta, once a mere social media platform, had evolved into a global surveillance empire under the quiet control of its elusive mastermindโMark Zuckerberg. With his unmatched data-mining capabilities, Zuckerberg became a cyber-spy, harvesting every heartbeat, thought, and dream of billions.>First Corporate War: It began as a quiet conflict. Google, alarmed by Metaโs aggressive data acquisition, launched countermeasures. Skirmishes over algorithmic dominance erupted, crippling global networks. AI agents battled in silent cyberspaceโunseen, untraceable.>Second Corporate War: Zuckerberg unveiled Project AllSightโan omniscient neural AI fed by Metaโs vast social data. Privacy vanished. Resistance mounted. Google's deep-learning divisions fought back, creating decoy lives for billions to confuse Metaโs algorithms.>Third Corporate War: The war went kinetic. Drone strikes, EMPs, and cyber-sabotage turned cities dark. Nations fractured as Meta-backed regimes rose, fueled by psychological manipulation. Zuckerberg became a mythโpart legend, part ghost, known only as โThe Observer.โ>Fourth Corporate War: Humanity struck back. A coalition of rogue engineers and โData Refugeesโ dismantled Metaโs mainframe from within. In his final transmission, Zuckerberg whispered, โI know you better than you ever will.โ
>>717341914Resisting is pointless. Normalfags don't even know what a kernal anti cheat is and they wouldn't even care if you told them they just want to play the newest things.
>>717340609They aren't useless. It's an exaggeration. They are more vulnerable and only really useful in two roles now.
>>717338316If nobody cares, why collect the data on it?
>>717338213 (OP)How will this affect my PC if I don't have dolphin porn saved in it?
>>717342087>be depressed>be demoralised>be resigned>resistance is futile>accept your new overlordsI'd rather die trying.
>>717342125>They are more vulnerable... therefore useless.
>>717341985it's stops 99% of them.
>b-but I spend the big bucks to get the latest cheats!congrats but you're a massive minority whose effect on the overall community's enjoyment of the game will be practically nil.
>>717341468Windows 10 doesn't.
Windows 11 has it as a hardware requirement, but it can be bypassed via numerous methods including officially supported ones used for unattended install on corporate systems. Meaning those are not going away until Microsoft finishes getting every last major corporation to drink the Entra koolaid -- which will (hopefully) still take a few good years.
>>717340609>Are Dice aware that tanks are completely useless in modern war?DICE senior designers are mostly older millenials who still think the Iraq invasion is how modern warfare is waged.
>>717342348>it's stops 99.9999999999999999999999999% (majority(a lot of(most))) of themI trust you, definitely not an EA employee
>>717342348Doesn't matter even one cheater ruins a game permanently, you'll always remember the match that was ruined by a cheater but never the ones where you had fun.
>>717338213 (OP)Nahhhh i donโt care anymore, after coming from games that have a cheater in every lobby I just donโt care about the kernel anti cheat tools. Iโm so fucking sick of getting laid out by cheaters, Iโm much more sick of fake people pretending they are good at game and making a YouTube channel based off their hacking and hiding the hacking. It really needs to stop
>>717342760>Iโm much more sick of fake people pretending they are good at game and making a YouTube channel based off their hacking and hiding the hacking. It really needs to stopBro if they banned big players from using them most huge gaming youtube and twitch channels would be snapped off existence overnight
Thats like asking twitch to apply their tos to big ecelebs like hasan, theyd kill their biggest cows, it would be bad
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>>717339738Are you fucking retarded? No, a random online service should not be able to demand that you submit a picture of yourself, or proof of anything about your identity.
>>717343395>no you dont get it, we MUST allow kids to access porn, gambling, gore and other degerante content online
>>717342348>you're a massive minorityThe only available BF2042 cheats are paid for and private.
Yet, the whole game is infested with cheaters everywhere.
So cheaters are already today going to some darkweb website to buy cheats from some questionable source.
If you need hardware modifications to cheat, they will all get it, no exception. They are already so far into their separate hacker communities, that those 10 bucks for a DMA module or those 10 cents for anothet TPM module, are absolutely no hurdle.
Cheaters won.
>>717343602If you don't want your kid accessing material you don't approve of, don't give them unsupervised internet access, you stupid fag.
>>717343602PARENT FOR ME HARDER DADDY GOVERNMENT
>>717338578then why are they going through my shit? if they didn't care they wouldn't take every chance to spy on me
The reduction of cheater numbers is real in the sense that people that would fuck around with cheap/free cheats off Discord are gone because it's too much risk or too much work for what was going to be short-term use anyways.
But cheaters at a high level are about just as abundant as they were before because the people that TRULY cheat exist past a specific threshold and in a specific context and those are not going to stop cheating unless they really have to and kernel level anticheat doesn't really stop cheats. So what happens is those people find a better cheat dev, pay x5 the price of what they used to pay for a functional cheat before and just keep doing it.
>companies can claim they are doing this complex stuff to stop cheaters and they have these statistics to prove it works based on some undisclosed technicality
>people now defend the companies because "see? it works!"
>because "see? it works!" the perception of cheating activity is skewed to shit and players shifted from suspecting foul play to assuming fair play as their default
Their objective was never to actually stop cheaters (good luck with that ) but to build an environment to keep players from pestering them.
>>717339358For some games, yeah, but at least I have more than Manly Death Heterosexual Warfare 6 in my device to play so whatever. Meanwhile you have to pay to use your own internet for every single game.
>>717343602>no you dont get it, we MUST allow kids to access porn, gambling, gore and other degerante content online but MUST NOT deport pakistani child rape gangs from raping children we swore to protect from memes online
>>717344083They are just going to matchmake people into lobbies with bots.
Cheaters are alway perceived relative to the player population. So if you double the population by adding bots, the impacts of cheaters is now halfed.
>>717344083>people that would fuck around with cheap/free cheats off Discord are gonesince i am not a gaymer anymore, but only here to dab on the cattle, idk when this era was.
I remember that during BF2 days, the only good cheats were sold for 15 bucks or so.
And nowadays it seems to be the exact same thing.
>>717339223you're not wrong but in a way there's so much data that you become invisible, just more data in a sea of data. if anyone one person singled you out and looked at all your info, it would be fucked up. but having your info be just a single column in an infinite spreadsheet of similarly fucked up people, it's kind of whatever. only reason to be actually afraid is if you're high profile like an important political actor or famous person, government, private sector corpo high level etc
>>717338213 (OP)>tech illiterate fearmongeringIf somebody wants to fuck your PC, they don't need kernel access, they can steal all your data without it just as well.
>>717343602>parent my kids by blocking off porn and degenerate sites from my network? TOO MUCH WORK>not giving my kids unrestrictive internet access and an ipad so they can leave me alone to do nothing? TOO MUCH WORK>trying to at least prevent them from becoming ipad addicts by going outside with them? TOO MUCH WORKMillenials ruined an entire generation by not being there for them and just giving them an ipad since it was easier than actually raising them
>>717343205Holy cringe batman
>>717344083Valorant has significantly less cheating going on than Counterstrike. Having 100 times more cheaters is actually a meaningful difference, even if autists go "b-but they both have some".
>>717338213 (OP)>he doesn't know about the government mandated spyware on his motherboardyour PC is already compromised retard
>>717342264If they wanted to get to the dolphin porn (that you clearly don't have) they would hide that stuff in the game executable, instead of putting it in the kernel.
Secure boot is also not something that installs anything, it's something that prevents suspicious things from being installed, so crying about that is even more retarded.
>>717338316sheeple deserve to be slaughtered
>>717342067faceberg was fed datamining from the very start
on top of selling all your data to advertisers
>>717338213 (OP)Another DOA battlefield, probably the last one lol
>>717339631It obviously works, you monkey. Unless you don't understand that there is a difference between having 10 cheaters vs a million.
>>717340705Your mouse, printer (lmao), GPU (both AMD and Nvidia fucked that up before) drivers are good enough to fuck things up.
>>717342548>>717343630They have patched this anti-cheat into some of their older games before, and things massively improved.
>>717343602You can't stop teenagers from doing that. They'll find a way. Doing stuff like that only works for censoring information your government doesn't approve off.
>>717338213 (OP)I've been hearing about thems colonel level anti cheat thingamajigs for a decade now and literally nothing happened to my PC. Safe to assume it's a nothingburger.
>>717345474Just having one cheater ruins the experience and renders the point of having the anti cheat pointless
>>717345818>dude just having one murderer renders the point of laws and punishment against murder pointless
>>717345987Unironically yes. People wouldn't break laws if there were no laws to break.
Retards not realizing that even privacy having tinfoiled hat faggots who run Linux use secure boot.
This game is going to be impossible to discuss on here because of tech illiterate brown retards.
Also protip if you're this retarded about secure boot or don't understand why pc gaming is requiring kernel level anti cheat you're too brown and retarded to run this game anyway
I haven't played a Battleield game since Bad Company 2 and 3, which one should I buy to have the most enjoyment since they're all on sale right now?
>>717340678They're flagging people who don't like jews, fags, trannies, and otherwise don't support globohomo. Once they know you're a bad goy, you're flagged and can not go viral in the algorithm. You won't be shadowbanned, just shadow suppressed.
>>717346450Found the insufferable troonix user, why don't you go back to your arch trannies sub?
>>717346450>I posted like a baiting retard would on 4chan on another piece of the internet and got banned, wat de hek?God forbid you ACTUALLY think people write like that unironically.
>>717346669pretty sure thats a windows dialog box
>doesnโt stop cheating at all
>does let them give your money to niggers
>>717346818So the word humiliation ritual is now bad yes?
i run linux on my pc therefore I will be playing this on my ps5
>>717338213 (OP)Are we talking about the secure boot feature in Windows or its some antivirus software
>>717346415There's literally NO reason to have ANY anti cheat in any game EVER. give people dedicated servers where they can ban cheaters themselves. It's that easy and how it has been done for the past 20 years
>>717340631>$1000 private cheatsWhy would anyone do this?
Also, Fortnite has no cheaters and whoever tries it gets assraped by Epic.
>>717338316>>717338578Said the pig in his trough
>>717341981This is even more disgusting when you really think about it. Want to play the gayme? Uhm, surrender sovereignty over your device please!
>>717341393well thats definitely not true
VAC does practically nothing
vanguard does at least something
>>717346450>europoor>mobile>reddit
>>717348007As a cheater, i approve of those measures.
BF6 is a 100 bucks game, so paying half of that for a working cheat isn't stopping anyone.
Meanwhile the cattle gets milked and controlled in reality WHILE being slaughtered by me in virtuality.
>all mobos have secureboot since 2011
>all mobos have TPM 2.0 since 2015
>both of these are enabled by default
so whats the issue here, if your machine doesn't support these you can't even run the game in the first place?
>>717338316>No one cares that you get off to scat.Haven't been reading the news recently?
>>717348479The issue is that a video game wants that enabled, a video game has no business being coupled with that shit.
>>717344371They don't need to, that's the point. People already think that kernel anticheating has actually solved the problem on a practical level and every time a ban rolls out live on a match the reaction it has on people is the same: It reinforces the idea that it works.
>See? The anticheat banned 10 people in my matches today. It just works dude!They don't see how this is is skewed perception and how little sense it makes.
>>717344598>And nowadays it seems to be the exact same thing.There are a lot of decent cheats for cheap out there but most people are still reluctant to go that route because it entails risks.
>>717345138And Valorant has far more cheaters than, I don't know, Diablo 4 or something. Fuck that relativist bullshit.
Valorant still has a serious cheating problem made blatantly obvious in high Dia matches and anyone who is competent enough to go past that without raising eyebrows every match has enough of an understanding about the game in general to cheat all the way up so there's absolutely zero reason to think the cheating problem is localized.
>>717338213 (OP)I just have any personal stuff on a laptop and assume anything on my desktop is looked at by a billion Chinamen
>>717338469is that what secure boot actually does? I have that shit off for some reason, never knew what it does
>>717339112Those who give up liberty for safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
>>717348964>And Valorant has far more cheaters than, I don't know, Diablo 4 or somethingprovide proof of this
>>717349535I hope you posted this from a Linux distro.
>>717349625Tails actually
>>717349606That would require you to show stats on Valorant cheaters. And since you made a claim first and foremost and you want to go down the autistic path for the argument you will have to also show that Valorant has less cheats than CS.
I'll wait.
>>717349606Diablo has like 50 players left LMAO even if all of them cheated it would be lower
>>717338213 (OP)riot already did this through league and valorant
>>717338213 (OP)That's not even the worst thing.
Fucking up the procedure to turn on secureboot has an actual chance at bricking your mobo. And the procedures vary between manufacturers. And the manufacturer's instructions for the procedure can just be... Wrong. There's tons of logacy products and they just copy paste the one instruction for all of them despite the code being different and there's your mobo, unironically, bricked.
>>717348479>both of these are enabled by defaultincorrect
>>717349132It makes it so you can only boot signed code. It sounds innocent, but basically MS is the only one that has the keys for allowing code to run on boot. Which means if you want to use Secure Boot and another OS, like Linux, you either have to disable Secure Boot or you have to use a "shim", which uses MS keys to boot another OS. So basically you have to have something enabled in your BIOS that says only MS can control what OS you boot.
If you install BF6, you will always use Windows. And it will be Windows 11 with Windows Recall and all the spyware, since Windows 10 support is going away.
>>717338316>>717339504I hope we get another CrowdStrike level fuckup at kernel level so that idiots like you can get fucked.
Giving access to CS was already bad enough, imagine EA or fucking ubisoft - just kiss your system goodbye.
>>717348479>whats the issue hereThe issue is that even people with new PCs can get the error saying secure boot isn't on. It happened to me. I had to go into BIOS.
>>717349132It was originally for rootkit/trojan prevention. Get a virus in low enough in the boot, fuck all windows can do to stop it. So if the UEFI will only load signed bootloaders, then an infected one would be flagged as bad. But now we have kernel anti-cheat, that means if you want to cheat you now need to get even lower than the kernel so your cheat program can lie to the anti-cheat about the state of the machine. And that's all protected by the secure boot chain. Disable secure boot, windows won't load the secure modules, kernel anti-cheat can't run and you can't play the game.
And so I'm not saying this is benign and nothing to worry about, far far from it. I'm saying that if you play modern online games on your PC you've been letting corpos riddle your machine with borderline malware for years. Secure boot is a funny line in the sand to draw. Personally I wouldn't run any of these games on any machine that has anything more than just that game. Fuck that.
>>717351679i think for most ppl if secure boot was something you could turn on in the control panel it wouldn't be an issue, it's going into the bios that is scary for some ppl
>>717338213 (OP)>TPM Kernel Level AC>poors foaming>schizos seething>brainlets strugglingBattle Field 6 lobbies will be freed from these "people". Gaming is healing!
>>717350727Man has a clue. Console obviously is locked down even harder than a PC, but the only shit that's on it is console games. If you're going to let corpos read all your data, do you want them to be creating a database of file hashes of your TOTALLY_NOT_FURRY_PORN folders on your PC? The pirate copies of whatever to report to your local authority? Or the 3 games you have on your PS5 that's common to a million other people?
>>717351861you'll still have to deal with the worst of them all: Battlefield fans
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>>717351861not looking good in the long run, considering the price is free
>>717351808And with good reason, I shouldnt be having to fuck with bios terminal settings or whatever the fuck to play videogames I use fucking windows, leave that gay tinkering shit to linuxfags
>>717351808>it's going into the bios that is scary for some pplIt's not just scary, but people can encounter issues. I had two big problems when getting Secure Boot to work, and I only got through because I'm tech savvy.
Problem 1: I can't even enter BIOS normally because I hold Delete during startup and my keyboard doesn't work.
What did I do? I went to System > Recovery and did Advanced startup. That's how I entered BIOS.
Problem 2: My BIOS said Secure Boot was Enabled. Why wouldn't BF6 start? It's because it wasn't enabled. I had to find the solution on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/ql5z7x/secure_boot_enabled_but_not_active_for_windows_11/
>>717351679>Secure boot is a funny line in the sand to draw. it's potentially far more destructive than the average globohomos peeking inside your PC
i'm not shitting you when i say i've checked the bf6 reddit and already seen half a dozen threads asking for help because they are now stuck in a boot loop
the instructions EA provided are more likely to get more retards to brick their PCs than it's to actually get new PCs that didn't have secure boot to have it turned on. you have to first navigate the system environment, then the BIOS environment, then the firmware/boot environment in windows, each step has pitfalls that can single handedly brick your PC if you fuck it up.
this shit is actually beyond lunatic, it's like asking some tech illiterate boomers to flash their bios when you don't have dual bios. it's literally that basically. but 3 times more complex and 3 times the destruction potential.
>>717351808Win11 requires it, so soon enough the problem will solve itself. All the big system integrators have had this on by default for years so mostly it's just DIYers and people who bought PCs from small shops. You can bet EA harvested the secure boot (Y/N) state from all their players over the last few months and have a pie chart that says which percentage of players will be inconvenienced and that wasn't a big enough slice to care about.
>>717349806 You won't get stats because Riot doesn't release exact numbers, but you can piece it together. Vanguard is kernel-level, and despite that, there's still a massive wave of bans every few weeks. Valorant even has cheat devs bragging about bypasses on telegram and private discords. Meanwhile, Diablo 4 is an always-online PvE game with no real incentive to cheat beyond some botting and item farming, which Blizzard wipes out in ban waves.
Also, comparing CS to Valorant? Buddy, CS:GO had OVERWATCH because Valve gave up. VAC is a meme. Riot at least pretends to try. You're asking for hard numbers like you're entering a master's thesis defense but we're on a Vietnamese basket-weaving forum. Use your eyeballs and touch grass.
>>717352123Fair point. I'm not used to caring if little billy fucks the family computer.
>>717352047It's the closed part of the test dipshit.
You're already a knob for using concurrent numbers but try the exact same thing on the 9th when it's open to all.
>>717351861Congrats anon, you and all the other bootlickers can bend over for your corporate bulls together in lobbies!
>>717338213 (OP)If experience has taught me anything it's that Steam users are 90% cheaters and the reason they seethe about shit like this is because they cheat like crazy
>>717351972If that was going to happen battle eye and easy anti cheat would have done it already. However if shit gets hot with china and Taiwan I would uninstall that ACE shit or get your drives bricked by chinks.
>>717352404Sure, thats fair.
I'll check back then.
>>717338578>you're not special enough, that's why they've created a trillion dollar industry just to harvest your data
>>717352258You won't get stats because Blizzard doesn't release exact numbers, but you can piece it together. In fact, you exactly did that.
There you go, this should be enough.
Now try to actually have a discussion instead of autistically laser-focusing into something I said just to make a point (A point that is clarified IMMEDIATELY after saying it, even) or don't at all.
>>717352258>being THIS MUCH of a Riot dicksuckerthe mark of the chink
>>717352258>You're asking for hard numbersForgot this part.
The one asking for hard numbers initially wasn't me you complete fucking moron.
>Steam collecting and selling your data
:)
>Any other platform doing the same
NOOOOOO THINK ABOUT MY DATA!!!!
>>717352203> You can bet EA harvested the secure boot (Y/N) state from all their players over the last few months and have a pie chart that says which percentage of players will be inconvenienced and that wasn't a big enough slice to care about.I don't know how much of this is true, according to google 45% of steam is on windows 10, and people review bombed 2042 for the secure boot update.
Will be interesting to see where the steam charts numbers end up for this beta.
>>717353001>they use steam>and complain about DRM????
>>717353001This is only now too. I like the odds of there being people that pre-purchase it, can't open the beta in the early phase and return it before the game releases.
I would happily let every dev/publisher have full access to my gaming PC at all times, just to spite poorfags who pirate games and thirdies.
>Secure fucking Boot is now somehow DRM to these poor chucklefucks still on Windows 7 who haven't upgraded in 10 years.
It's not consoles holding gaming back any more.
>>717353134>steam>drmgames with that "drm" gets cracked in minutes after release
>>717353215Consoles are on 10 year old hardware so yes, you losers are as much as an anchor to gaming as the schizos still on Win7.
>>717353483Unlike COD, BF isn't on last gen consoles.
>>717338316There's always a new sucker born yesterday who will ignore the advice of older gamers and let EA rape them to death
>>717338974To be fair. If you still play fps slop in 2025 you deserve everything of this and worse.
>>717342348>it's stops 99% of them.except no it fucking doesn't. Where are you pulling this information from?
>>717354834EA said it would
>>717354834>Where are you pulling this information from?Where are you pulling the information that it doesn't? I've seen like 50 niggers say
>there will still be cheaters :)Where's the proof?
>>717338213 (OP)Deserved for playing EA games
>>717355013The game isn't even out yet and people are claiming it has cheaters. I can't comprehend that level of stupidity. Why not wait to see if it does or doesn't?
I'm really glad I can't see most of this board because it'd just be these stupid cunts over and over.
>>717355141I think you're under the delusion that kernel anti cheat = impossible to cheat
And for that I'm sorry for your mental illness. Forgive me, have a nice day/night/
>>717338213 (OP)third worlders and their inferiority complex driving them to use cheats and play on NA servers caused this.
Every law ever was created because some retard couldn't handle his freedom responsibly. This is why we can't have nice things
>>717355013Wow, EA made a promise to GAMERS? HOLY SHIT IT MUST BE TRUE
>>717355468You have no proof then? I'm filtering the image you posted. I don't have a second thread open, which is why you replied to this thread. Enter any thread on the board for a 90% that I have it filtered.
>>717338578Hahaha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDVVo14A_fo
Have a look in this screenshot for your post. If anyone has any more images to post, I'll be filtering every single one. If not, then enter any other thread on the board.
>>717355493cheaters were never a problem on private servers with admins and jannies who could review demos/spectate and ban them on spot
matchmaking cancer is what caused this
>>717355493Yeah, third worlders invading and shitting up every space, including digital is quite grim. At least most people don't have to deal with chinks cheating in their lobbies, yet.
>>717340609Drone war gameplay would not be very fun. Even though videogames would make it easier to intercept them it would essentially be a bunch of players using the equivalent of non-stop killstreaks that are effective against infantry and tanks alike.
>>717339223if they know I search for "Celeste Peter North" so often, how come there's only one video?
>>717342067Suspension of disbelief not established
Not one mention of "pajeet"
>>717355751AAA game companies will never allow us to host our own servers again anyway so saying that is meaningless
>>717355543oh shiver me timbers you filtered my image?!?!? nooooooooooooooooooo
>>717356071It's just an observation how they took something away from us, created a problem, then sold us a worse solution than we had before.
>>717338213 (OP)>has windows installed>complains about kernel level bloatwareYeah. Ok.
>>717356546Are you able to run the game?
>>717355493Excellent post, we never needed trash humans infesting our servers.
>>717338578If they don't care, then why do they want it?
>>717356715>If they don't care, then why do they want it?That anon probably means they don't care about you individually. Like, if a million people search for something, that would interest them, but companies don't give a shit about any one person.
>>717338316Then you don't care if I install cameras in your house and watch everything you do right? Why do you make a distinction?
Internet nowadays is ubiquitous. You can't avoid it and participate in society, unless you become a bum. So why aren't we treating it as a real thing, an extension of society? Privacy on internet is as important as it is IRL.
I know it's bait but this is the most retarded argument every time if you spout this nonsense you don't deserve freedom nor privacy, even if you should have it,
>>717356783And your fine with paying for a product only for them to make money on your back by selling data to ad companies? Your paying for the privilege of become one of their product. Don't you see an inherent issue with that?
>>717339358Consolecucks are ALL playing on bugged hardware by default
>>717347643Cheaters are subhuman
>>717357668>And your fine with paying for a product only for them to make money on your back by selling data to ad companies?That happens if you do anything on the internet. You should probably log off if you're scared of that happening. If you watch stuff on Youtube, you get put into a database that shows what everyone is watching.
>>717339358good goy, that'll be $12 a month to use the internet you already pay for
>>717338213 (OP)Third worlder /v/ can't upgrade to Windows 11 because their 2009 GTX 960 and their 2011 CPU can't support Raytracing or SecureBoot/TPM. 3rd world Southeast Asia, South America, Eastern Europe, India PCMR gaming thread.
>>717341192Supposedly they are doing after that CrowdStrike debacle. Maybe they'll tell all third party code to gtfo the kernel use their safe and effective APIs instead. sploits probably continue. modern computing is hellish
>>717338213 (OP)who is ben and why he doesnt want me to cheat
>>717358208The "ben" is a typo, and he was trying to write "pretending to be an anti cheat".
>>717358107I cant even fault them for that because that shitshow was particularly wild
>EDR solution meant to protect users>ends up bootlooping hundreds of millions of machines around the globe due to shit code>essentially ransomware those machines that had been using bitlockThat mightve unironically caused more damage to IT sectors than any actual malware released this year
>>717341192i remember reading something about how they are pushing for it, i read some article from riot how they're going to tone down on not having to have the anticheat run from boot and 24/7 because of changes microsoft is doing with TPM or whatever the fuck
>>717346669Linux UI doesn't look like that retard. Never seen Windows before?
>>717359026Oh right troonix doesnt even have UI at all lmao get fucked freetard
>>717359196Seething nintendtoddler.
>>717356703why the fuck can't I be a sex slave in a post-apocalyptic society this shit sucks
>>717359816remember your schizo meds?
>>717338316>nobody cares but give us all your datayou're fucking retarded
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>>717352047>>717352404Beta didn't even started yet lmao. You can only change your settings.
>>717359816it's backed in into Windows, they have full backdoor access
>>717357874Because you don't have to pay $80 + tip to watch fucking youtube.
>>717362018>you don't have to pay $80 + tip to watch fucking youtube.If you don't want to pay $80 then play some Dota 2. Problem solved. This game doesn't even cost money.
>bro just install this one rootkit on your PC bro it's just one cmon bro just one pls cmon just one more rootkit bro I swear your PC's fine cmon there's already so many rootkits bro you won't even notice 1 additional
Used to raw dog the Tencent Gamebuddy back in the day I dont give a FUCM
>>717338316>>717338578It's about your legal rights you retarded golem
>>717339738>>717340114>NTA, but you're not EA. I can't hold you accountable if you leak my information, I'd gladly submit one to EA but not some random Anonyou can 100% hold someone accountable for maliciously spreading your information in a civil case, you can get a court order to force 4chan to release all locational data on a post, then if they used a VPN, the courts can request the ISP to release the VPN users data.
you need to stop posting uninformed statements and opinions if you lack a lot of real world knowledge
>>717352510>ACEThat one leaves hidden files throughout your PC. Have fun cleaning it out.
>>717360407If you actually read my posts you'd know that I'm arguing against EA you illiterate retard.