Thread 717347651

>saves action combat
You're welcome

>>717347651 (OP)
>laben seething
kek

They really did. The fact that people still get so amped-up about FromSoftware games in the year of our Lord 2025 shows how truly awful the competition is.

>>717347651 (OP)
action? souls slop has more in common with turn based combat than action. this shit is beyond awful, only a faggot would play this trash.

>>717347651 (OP)
More liked ruined hack & slash games for decades, everything is slow and passive "souls-like" garbage nowadays. Go fuck yourself retard.

i fucking love spamming r1 and occasionally circle
its so engaging spamming one button
and i love the fact that everyone attempting to make an action game copies it

>>717348990
>spamming r1
>he doesn't two-hand fully charged r2 attacks for maximum damage
Cringe

>>717348803
>>717348990
As if spamming izuna drop was better. Stop pretending old action games were better.

>>717349228
>>717349260
>min/max in action games
Wheres your whimsy? spectacle fighters are about skill expression and having fun.

>>717349387
>winning isn't your only objective
get a load of this scrub

>>717349463
"winning" with a D rank on your mission score isn't winning

>>717347651 (OP)
They saved video games in general. Nobody remembers the age of brown and bloom movie games and UX

>>717347651 (OP)
Name a more influencal vidya director than him from the last 20 years.

>>717349506
Can you beat the game doing it?

>>717350290
yes, but the game shames you for being awful at video games.

>>717349260
Izuna drop will get you punished if you spam it in higher difficulties

>>717347651 (OP)
It's insane how much DaS completely changed the landscape of gaming, and then completely failed to innovate in any capacity.
Their two best games that accomplished something positive post DaS, Sekiro and BB, were completely lost in the dust.

>>717350614
>BB
Sony is to blame for holding it hostage on their shitty system

>>717347651 (OP)
I think a part of the reason it works so well is that the stakes are so high on these grounded swings and thrusts that each one feels like it counts. Each action the enemy takes could mean life or death and you could be deep in an unknown dungeon and lose a lot of exploration and souls. You take the average action game like DMC, and not only do enemies have much less say in the fight, but even if they do manage to get you, you will only go back to the beginning of the fight. In a way the traditional action game is much more casual. That's why they fail as adventure games, and why it's actually really shitty that Fromsoft keeps increasing the save room/bonfire counts.

>>717349260
izuna drop is the coolest move in gaming history. So spamming it is infinitely more fun than whatever the fuck this is

>>717349260
enemies block, dodge, and pressure you very well in ninja gaiden, especially on higher difficulties, it's much deeper than the completely reactionary playstyle of soulslikes.

>>717349907
the guy who made cod or the guy who made fortnite

Had this argument with a souls fan and told him I don't think souls games are that special and not that fun to play and it went like this:
>You didn't play them
I played DS1&3 and ER
>You didn't beat it
I beat them
>You're bad at them
I beat most of DS1 bosses first try
>You didn't finish them
I finished them all
>You didn't play them long enough
I have 100+ hours in DS3 and beat it 8 times
>You don't get it

Why are they like this?

>>717352078
they literally play this because it makes them feel special

>>717347651 (OP)
It didn't save action at all. It helped devs realise that games could be more than corridor shooters with no difficulty or nuance though.

>>717350614
You don't 'innovate' on perfection.
They got it right the first time so all they gotta do is up the scale.
Imagine saying this about another franchise. The next Arma should be about boxing. The next Ave Combat should be about tanks.
Stop trying to turn Souls games into Mario where every game is a bundle of gimmicks for the sake of it.

>>717347651 (OP)
*saves RPG

The problem with souls is From learning it can crank out halfassed reused assets like nightreign/switchborne

>>717352078
>They're not that special and not that fun to play
Why did you beat Dark Souls 3 8 times? I don't think there's a single game I've beaten 8 times.

>>717353593
if they are going to scale up the enemies they better scale up their ai and combat mechanics instead of scaling up their strings and delays

>>717347651 (OP)
It was supposed to save RPGs but then became too powerful for its own good and was corrupted by the evil forces of reddit and the journalist industrial complex into a wannabe action game that has plagued the entire human race with parryslop and rollslop the way Breath of the Wild infected everything with "open world." We lost, unironically.

The fact that souls niggers only care about the barebones combat system in this franchise for whatever reason confirms how insanely retarded they are

>>717354564
What's a complex combat system then?
And no, flashy combat with useless combos don't count

>>717353897
Because it was my first souls game and I liked it, but when I tried the ds1 and elden ring I was disappointed because they were almost the same game. I lost interest in the series and from software after elden ring

>>717354951
>What's a complex combat system then?
Any Team Ninja game basically. From didn't add weapon skills until DS3 and you still can only use 1 at a time, it's pretty ridiculous

>>717354951
any combat system at all that relies on more than 2 button presses

>>717354951
complex is quite literally flashy combos and tons of different shit to do for no reason
but deep combat tho...

>>717347651 (OP)
>adventure game comes with some mediocre slapped on action gameplay that's mostly about managing your stamina bar
>all the RPG and adventure game elements get stripped out and the action gets dumbed down further so the stamina barely matters
>this "roll and R1" gameplay somehow becomes the standard for action game mechanics that appeal to normalfags

>>717355458
it's fake complexity

>>717355641
shit like this is why the medium has barely moved forward since the 90s. Gamers are the most brainded cattle of all consumers

>>717355775
complex is just that, complex, it means it has a lot of shit attached to it

>>717356046
What do you want games to 'mve forward' towards.
Describe an ideal action RPG to me, it's combat.

>>717356890
Why do we even need action rpgs at all? Specially since they have worse action and rpg elements than fucking 30 year old games like megaman or baldurs gate

>>717357201
Because people like creating characters that reflect their gameplay preferences.
Back to the previous question now.