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is picrel a decent place to start if I want to 1cc my first shmup? why do discord fags argue against playing mame vs. 360? Wouldn't the arcade slowdown be more likely to be accurately emulated by something like mame rather than a completely arbitrary console?

>>717350324 (OP)
I don't know, I think I've seen one of those screenshots with full of purple bullets from this game, not exactly a good experience for your first 1cc

>>717350682
Mushi has multiple difficulties so he's fine as long as he doesn't pick ultra.

Is climbing Mt. Everest a good idea for my first hike up a mountain? Once I summit it, I'm sure I'll be able to summit other mountains!

>>717350324 (OP)
Yeah, sure. Original is easy enough and despite the name Maniac isn't too crazy either.

>>717350324 (OP)
If you like the game, sure. I think Mushi is basic enough as far danmaku style shumps go, you can focus on getting gud at the dodging and shooting. Also it has a Steam port too, you might want to use that.
Try Maniac too after Original, it's not that bad. Ultra will be the really difficult one with the TLB at the end, so you can come back to that when you really want to sweat and play this game for months to come.

>>717350324 (OP)
It's where I did my first 1cc. Normal-Original. It took about 25 hours or so on the steam port of the game. Highly recommend. Make sure to take advantage of stage select, particularly for stages 3,4 and 5.

>>717350324 (OP)
>is picrel a decent place to start if I want to 1cc my first shmup?
Yeah it's fine. Could try to 1cc novice mode first.
> why do discord fags argue against playing mame vs. 360? Wouldn't the arcade slowdown be more likely to be accurately emulated by something like mame rather than a completely arbitrary console?
I wouldn't trust discordfags on anything, but to answer your question; it depends. Mame got a lot better recently, but it was never that accurate in the past. Some ports have QoL features that lower the learning curve or make the game less tedious to play. For example, the arcade version of Battle Garegga needs to be reset every time for optimal play due to some bullshit with the rank system and also has a needlessly long loading screen, though on an emulator you can load from a save state to get around it.

>>717350324 (OP)
Futari Black Label is a little bit easier

>>717351441
>For example, the arcade version of Battle Garegga needs to be reset every time for optimal play due to some bullshit with the rank system and also has a needlessly long loading screen, though on an emulator you can load from a save state to get around it.
Garegga isn't that bad. It's Batrider that's awful, since they noticed that people were resetting Garegga machines to reset the rank. So the solution was to make it so that Batrider's rank starts off really high after resetting so you need to wait fucking forever for it to cool down. You definitely want savestates to not deal with that.

>>717350324 (OP)
>is picrel a decent place to start if I want to 1cc my first shmup?
Absolutely
>why do discord fags argue against playing mame vs. 360?
Because the xbox and steam version has better emulated slowdown than standalone MAME, something pretty important for Maniac and specifically Ultra
>Wouldn't the arcade slowdown be more likely to be accurately emulated by something like mame rather than a completely arbitrary console?
In theory

>>717350324 (OP)
The Darius series are peak for 1cc.

>>717350324 (OP)
It's harder than other "starting point", "first 1cc" shmups, but it's not terrible. I think it's more important that you like the game enough to want to 1cc it, first and foremost. So have fun!

I miss the 2024 threads, they were full of excitement, clips and ocs

>>717353458
Same man

>>717352008
Batrider rank also goes up faster just by putting more credits in, no matter if you continue or not.
What was Yagawa on.

Espgaluda and Deathsmiles are easiest Cave shmups to 1cc.

I haven't played the 360 version of Mushihimesama because it isn't region free, only Futari is. But why not just get a modern port of the game on Switch or PC? Both the Switch and Steam version are excellent, and by some miracle it doesn't have the added input lag on Switch that some shmups do.

Batrider?
That was a cool run because I managed to keep the medal chain all the way from stage 1 to 6, up to this cap.
Unfortunately I fucked up big time first at stage 5 by missing one extend(it spawned inside the goddamn tunnels), and then I just moved in the wrong direction at stage 6 during the midboss. Could have done it otherwise with the 4.5m extend + the 6m extend at stage 7.

>>717350324 (OP)
No dude just learn 2hu 6. How do people keep falling for this? You don't just 1cc this game on normal and move onto the next one. This is a long ass game. Why is nu/v/ so stupid?

>>717350324 (OP)
I guess so. It will still take time to 1cc as it's relatively hard despite being easier by shmup standards. There are easier games for sure like Deathsmiles and Touhou but the novice mode is really really easy at least, you can definitely do that, but the goal is to 1cc normally.

>>717355765
what are you playing it on so that it has the extras at the sides?

>>717358871
Mame and https://mega.nz/folder/PUgHDBLD#ENEP7FE2JL4fUrXDl_9C3Q/folder/qNhWDTIK
There are instructions inside the zip, do not extract it.

>>717356390
>Playing truss in 2001+2024

>>717358975
looks good. didn't know if it had gotten a console port

>>717359117
Unfortunately not. It really deseved one though.

>>717350324 (OP)
I always recommend Deathsmiles for a first 1cc, mushi is also quite approachable but it's a steeper climb
you can just play the steam version

>>717350324 (OP)
>>717356390
Don't fall for the "beginner friendly" shmup meme, pick ones that you know you're going to stick to it, because regardless of difficulty you're still going to have a hard time trying to 1cc a game.
As long as you avoid something that's difficult as fuck anything would do, best tip for shmup is sticking to the game to beat it instead of deluding that the you're going beat the game in 3 days because it's "beginner friendly".
Pic rel is my first 1cc.

>>717359292
Good post.
I think intuitively people won't pick a shmup that's way too hard as their first anyway, but indeed the best "beginner shmup" for a first 1cc is the one you want to play, and the second 1cc too, and the third. The idea is that you keep playing until it happens, so you are going to stick with it for a while.

>>717350324 (OP)
My first 1CC was Batsugun Special, after that I did Crimzon Clover Original mode. Now I'm working on Mushi.

One more bomb in stock

>>717350324 (OP)
It is actually the best vertical shmup.

Play her game

>>717364546
Ketsui was here.
also Crimzon Clover.

>>717350324 (OP)
It's a great game to start with, Mushihimesama Original is great at teaching you the basics of the genre in general and maniac also for the danmaku style. It will still be hard for a first game, but worth it.

>why do discord fags
There are many mentally ill fags in the community that get mindbroken over certain consoles or game versions, just play in what you prefer or have. Even playing on the Switch is fine.
And in particular the ports of Mushi are good.

>>717364546
It's not even the best Mushi game

>>717367340
I liked it more than Futari tbqh

>>717366926
>Crimzon Clover
Crimzon Clover has quite a few filler segments. It's the main reason I haven't 1cc'ed it, despite being relatively easy. I just can't get myself to play through those boring stages.

Guess I don't particularly mind the whole game-long medal chaining if you can actually miss medals as long it's not the last one on screen and you get more by just bombing in certain spots. You generally get enough score for extends without having to sacrifice too much rank management either.

That final boss is so fucking bullshit though, goddamn it Yagawa what the hell. At least it has a good theme.

>>717368186
Elaborate?
Unless you mean novice mode, CC never has segments that overstay its welcome

https://streamable.com/9y46u4
Well there we go.

>>717370634
That's the last boss? lol.

>>717371703
Yea. He's particularly dangerous because he can pick attacks that have nearly impossible overlaps, but at the same time you can roll very easy shit to dodge.
It only takes one bad phase to derail the entire run.

>>717352610
>>717354092
>>717358615
>>717359284
>>717359292

thanks anons, it was between this and crimzon clover so I might play a few hours of both and try to decide on one to sink the hours into

everybody says deathsmiles but it just looks gay to me on an aesthetic level, not actually shitting on it but don't want it to have the opposite effect of putting me off playing it a lot

>>717372463
>deathsmiles just looks gay to me on an aesthetic level
Based. I only play manly and straight shmups

>>717370284
Nearly the entirety of stage 4 with popcorn after popcorn coming straight at you, some big enemies to weave left and right, those 5 laser thingies circling around you, the midboss that you just have to go around in a circle.
Stage 5 the return of the stage 2 boss and the small enemies before the final boss.

>>717372463
>deathsmiles but it just looks gay to me
It is. And that's a GOOD thing.

>>717350324 (OP)
No. You should play cave games in release order because they get more autistic with each iteration.
Start with Batsugun SP edition.

PS - i didn't like that game at all because i don't care for moe waifus and giant bugs. It's hideous to look at.

PLEASE CONTINUE

She's so retarded

these threads have grown weak

>>717377887
This brat

>>717378041
Kek. The best part is that the latter half was genuinely part of the original post. You would think it was still part of the navyseal copypasta but no.

>>717372463
>don't want it to have the opposite effect of putting me off playing it a lot
Play it, the gameplay is neat.
>left/right aiming buttons, almost entirely unique in the genre, the only ones that come to mind are Dariusburst and Forgotten Worlds
>holding both for a short-range homing shot
>great combo of bullet-hell with oldschool gameplay; it's bullet-hell but you can still get crushed by terrain
>badass soundtrack, reminiscent of Castlevania
>fun boss fights
Play that shit.

Bump

>>717378432
fine, I will try it

I will say it. Deathsmiles II is better than I.

>>717382295
How?

Alright /v/ros, what does a First=Person Shmup look like to you? What does it need to do? And what does it need to do it? picrel, seems like more FPS games want to incorporate shmup elements. This one has pretty poor gunplay though

>>717350324 (OP)
Mushihimesama on Normal is a very good first 1CC. Mame has some timing issues so I'd recommend the Steam release, just don't alt-tab because tabbing back in introduces a bunch of input lag until you restart the game.

I need a Garegga Rev.2016 pkg that isn't in fucking korean. Port your shit M2.

>>717385623
They did port it. Digitally to PS4, and physically for Koreans. Unless you want the Limited Jew physical version, which will run you upwards of $150. Don't like it? Get the Korean version and shaddap.

It's funny that this game got a reputation for being "one of the hardest final bosses ever" because of this old ass YouTube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQZuidKexBQ

>>717384728
The bosses are cooler.

Reminder Reco is canonically going commando according to a developer
this is from an official figure

>>717386154
that's Futari Back Label, original Mushi does have a very difficult TLB on Ultra though

>>717387247
MonkaS

>>717386154
Made before SaiDaiOuJou and its infamous Inbachi fight. Took like 10 years for someone to finally beat her.

>>717387247
Naturally, Mushihimesama remains great.

>>717387247
she's also 15