Thread 717350637

How do we fix the horror genre?

>>717350637 (OP)
grok, is this real?

I thought alien isolation and faith were pretty good, make more games like those I guess.

>>717350637 (OP)
is he okay?

>>717350637 (OP)
awww he's sleeping

>>717350637 (OP)
he's 'jakking

That's a corpse of a guy who game ended himself

>>717350637 (OP)
why did he unalive himself?

>>717350637 (OP)
If real what exactly happened?

>>717350637 (OP)
with AI

>>717350637 (OP)
You fix it by realizing there'll always be some autist that goes "heh, this isn't spooky at all" while playing the game at 12PM with all his lights on through speakers and with his friends behind him mocking how not spooky the game is too. The best horror games are games with good stories putting the player in believable scenarios where bad things can happen to them, not having a unity asset cockslap you across the face while your tinnitus gets aggravated by unpleasant noises.

>>717351656
>with AI
that'd be the fastest way to get your game completely ignored by even the modern horror genre group
any horror game with AI nowadays in fact gets panned globally

>>717351656
This fucking sucks.

>>717351771
>>717351805
AI is unintentionally scary
in a an incompetent sort of way

Would end myself if I was balding like that too frfr

>>717350637 (OP)
is he ok?

>>717350637 (OP)
Go back to snes clock tower and build from there, no other game builds up jumpscares as well as that one.

>>717351868
that's just nikocado fused with judge doom

>>717350637 (OP)
Hard to make good horror when nightmare world is your reality.
FNAF is already existential meta-horror anyway. Where do you go from there?

>>717351676
>horror storyfag
I can't think of a single time a story made any game scarier, you could have all the award winning writers you want, but a good plot doesn't mean shit if the atmosphere is ass and the jumpscares are tame at best.

Make a game about your wife divorcing you, taking the kid and all of your money.

>>717352101
>jumpscares
jumpscares have nothing to do with horror

>>717352101
Meanwhile all the games lauded as the "best" the genre has to offer are games with great stories
>jumpscares
lmao

Only use female protagonists.

The monsters could be a mundane biker gang, you don't need "le spoopy" nonsense, the hook is a vulnerable cute girl who can't just fight them like the player(a man) would.

>>717352209
>>717352235
Oh, so you're the types that think peak horror is making the player walk down a dark hallway for 10 minutes while nothing happens.
Even worse.

>>717350637 (OP)
ordinary situation simulator
>walking down a street when a nigger attacks
>standing in queue and realizing you fucked up and dont have enough change
>electing not to go out so you can play vidya then finding out all the super awesome fomo inducing fun happened when you were absent

>>717352452
The fact that you can't think of horror in anything but jumpscares is a damning sign that the newer generation doesn't know what horror is

>tranime AGP posting
hidden

>>717352498
There is a game like that. It's a horror game with someone who has severe anxiety and you have to do completely normal tasks with increasing fervor.

>>717352452
peek a boo
now give me 60$

>>717350637 (OP)
This is going yo sound weird, especially to tiktok effected zoom zooms. All the best rated horror of the past was comfy as fuck.
Just a slow burn atmospheric horror in a location you wanted to sit down, drink some tea, and read a book.
Only game that even comes close now is RE8. Its 100% what the SH2 remake missed.

>>717351771
>gets panned globally
This is your brain on basement dweller mentality, completely unaware that normalcattle love IA and anything AI related especially 3rd worlders.

>>717352880
Funny you should say that when every horror game with AI failed dramatically or had to remove the AI elements before it started gaining traction.

>>717352842
>Its 100% what the SH2 remake missed
Not really. The remake was just as good for that atmospheric burn.
It just gave you a new choice to fight since unlike the OG, you weren't forced to flee most of the time. I took the game slow and explored just like I did before and only fought when I absolutely needed to, and it was great.

>>717352958
Because artists keep bitching that their jobs are forfeit. Lock up artists and games will improve 500%.

>>717350673
picture of a corpse left to rot in that japanese suicide forest park

>>717353323
>Because artists
It's not even art that's the problem most of the time for AI use in horror games anon.

>>717350637 (OP)
Why did the body not fall, of the soft tissue is rotting?
There is no bone connection holding your head, neck and body together, its soft tissue between spinal elements.

>>717353101
I agree with some, disagree with other bits, but It definitely wasn't comfy. Maybe cozy is the better word. Original was cozy, RE1 mansion, RE2 wooden police station, Silent Hill everything but the school. It was like reading HP Lovecraft in bed.

>>717350637 (OP)
let FromSoft make one

>>717353793
I mean BB was a similar masterpeice.

>>717353376
That's because they are stupid backwards autists, kinda like (you).

>>717352842
>Just a slow burn atmospheric horror in a location you wanted to sit down, drink some tea, and read a book.
That sounds boring as shit. Horror is meant to horrify, not put you to sleep.

>>717350637 (OP)
Be like pic rel. The first and the DLC only tho. Second and third one doesnt count. Especially the 3th one

>>717354545
there is a 3rd one?

>>717354232
Yet RE and SH defined horror games for decades and jump scare slop never took off... till five nights at Freddy's. The consequences have never been the same.
Thst said at least RE7&8 split the difference.

>>717354731
no. There isnt. THATS NOT OUTLAST. Just a last for dead but edgier

scary monster? noooo
chungus wungus animatroc? pog pog
Jumpscares? nooooooo no not skibidi
Retro analogue? oh my science pogger

pog skibidi no jumpscare no no

>>717353365
I've been there, place is comfy

>>717352880
>normalcattle love IA
Global south swarthoid detected, post discarded.

>>717355575
Jumpscares (although sometimes neither part of that word fits) are one of the things zoomie horror is full of though.

>>717356130
Also, the suicide forest is part of MtFuji

>>717356292
Fucking Moot, he keeps deleting my pics

>>717356292
Why kill yourself in a forest and not just jump in the volcano?
It would be totally tubular.

>>717354545
I stopped playing the game because overuse of bland cinematic violin music was jarring as fuck, it's the horror equivalent of laugh track and it was a huge turn off for me.
They made the game immersive yet they shove a cockroach band in your ears signaling you when you're supposed to be scared or not.
And no I'm not going return to the game with muted music because that's not how they intended the game to be.

>>717356485
To show society that you were betrayed by it. It's a silent protest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8

make a horror game that's something other than a walking simulator puzzle game with spooky music and jump scares.

>>717356645
Society does not care though. It's a pointless endeavor.

>>717350637 (OP)
make it fluffy

>>717356485
jumping in lava is probably painful as fuck, I don't think it de-atomize your body instantly with fire like how you see in the cartoons

>>717356485
I don't think it's active.
Also burning in lava sounds more painful than hanging.

>>717356825
maybe we should make society better so bad things don't happen. Man i miss the old japanese horror games based on real events like this, they were super edgy.

>>717356485
do you not realize how fucking difficult it would be to climb a fucking mountain? and do you think there's just a giant crater filled with lava? are you uneducated?

>>717356292
Something I thought about is that suicide is like a mind virus, considering suicide is actually a strange idea in most circles so when it enters discourse people actually start considering it.

The suicide forest I think is a part of that mind virus, people think "What if I were hung in the forest? where would my spot be I wonder..."

>>717357059
>not buying your own lava
>not having a tub in your bathroom

what are you? poor?

>>717357020
The real spook is how many of them werent suicides

>>717357084
meant to respond to
>>717356485

>>717352209
>>717352235
Name me a single actually scary horror film or game that doesn't have jumpscares.

>>717357195
Whats wrong with jumpscares?

>>717357264
Nothing. Journalist started a no jumpscare crusade back in the day cause they are soifaggots and felt it was "unfair" to create tension by using them.

>>717357264
Nothing, they are an important part of the horror formula.
But those two whined about them, so ostensibly they have good examples of things that are scary without using them.
Hint: they don't exist.

>>717356485
Active volcanoes spew out toxic gases all the time.
You'll die painfully or get tear gassed before you reach the crater. You may even get heat stroke along the way. Either way suicidal bitch boy will quit before they get there.

>>717351656
>>717351868
I just realized with AI we are literally summoning demons
Holy shit AI is the antichrist

>>717350637 (OP)
I think the Graphical progress made it a bit more difficult.
A good part of horror is the stuff you don't see and you often left to fill in the blanks. Fear of the unkown and all that.
This is why these goldsource horror mods remained actually scary. Granted L4D can be scarry too but for completely diffent reasons.
This is why there is this flood of PS1 style games. Less detail allows viewer to fill in the blanks and make scares more effective.
Granted more realistic look can be effective too. Look at FNAF JR's

>>717357195
Lake Mungo

>>717350637 (OP)
It doesn't need to be fixed.
People just have to make more games like Outlast or Alien Isolation.
People already figured out the trick.

>>717352842
I would 100% play a large scale game with this type of art style, make everything you see in the distance one contiguous map

>>717357685
Sad, not scary at all.
The Face is not spooky, either.
The film is just a tragedy, at no point are you actually scared by the events.
Unless you're afraid of your daughter being a whore.

>>717357195
Hereditary was a masterclass on atmospheric horror. Just like Silent Hill 1&2.

>>717357978
The film has multiple jumpscares.

>>717357615
>This is why there is this flood of PS1 style games. Less detail allows viewer to fill in the blanks and make scares more effective.
That logic would track were it not for the fact most of them are just about "an old guy who chases and attacks you at night" rather than anything remotely ambiguous or interpretive.

>/wsg/ reposts
I swear, that's one of the worst boards on this site. The absolute state of that place is astonishing what with how the average poster there tends to be reddit-like.
I'm not even just saying that just because, those fuckers on /wsg/ are some of the worst psuedointellectual midwit "erm, actually, here's this blatantly false information that I try to make sound intelligent" motherfuckers out there.
I hate you. I hate your soul. I hope the devil sodomizes you live on national TV and a few FM radio stations.

>>717356871
I'm thankful to Game Grumps for bringing this fun game to my attention, they're why I bought it.
I wish we had more slasher villain vidya.

>>717356485
the culture of being radical died 20 years ago
this is not a zoomer issue, although they have had being hella sick beaten out of them, but they grew up on dope media
society just no longer supports it

>>717350637 (OP)
horrortards think gore is scary, it's not, it's just gross to look at
what's scary is atmosphere, ambience, sounds, movements

>>717358062
I didnt remember any. Seems it kind of entered a greyzone. Definitely not a jump scare horror.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AriAster/comments/17ci6g8/jumpscares_in_hereditary/

>>717357595
imagine it being able to send such
imagine directly to your brain and make you perceive as real.
>AI is the anti christ
always has been.

>>717351868
>webm
Hello binman someone fucked the pendulum again? Can you resurrect someone for me?

>>717358167
never said it works every time. Sturgeon's law and all that.
But games like sniper killer or buckshot rulette lean into the...grimy athmosphere this style enhaces.

>>717356928
>climb a volcano
>take a mask so i don't asphyxiate before getting to the top
>finally make it
>"alright...let's-a do this"
>jump in
>TSS
>AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>bounce up
>TSS
>AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>TSS
>AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>HUO HUO HUO HUO
>respawn

>>717357947
>Unless you're afraid of your daughter being a whore.
Few things are scarier than possible realities.

>>717351656
This is really impressive actually.

>>717356485
because you don't jump into the lava, you crash into it and if you survive the fall feel how you start roasting while slowly being engulfed into molten rock

comfy

>>717357685
A good film, but it's more depressing than terrifying. I just felt sad most of the time while watching it.

My issue with jumpscares is they're usually all surprise and no dread. You need both to make it work. Some goofy fucking mask going OOGABOGOABOOGA doesn't scare me and rarely even surprises me. You gotta add stakes to it, you gotta make some kind of realization come with it for it to work. Opening a door and suddenly seeing a biker with a fuck-ugly mug and a crowbar he's about to beat you to death with is surprising and instills dread because now you're fearing for your life.
I've still yet to see a jumpscare that instilled the same dread in me as when I realized an infection that took sight from my left eye resulted in permanent blindness in that eye. That's consequence, it's horrifying, it was a feeling that nauseated me every goddamn waking minute for months. But I think it's possible if they actually figure out how to mix dread in with the shock.

>>717351656
>>717351868
>>717357595
We laughed at him, but he was right about AI all along.

>>717357195
I can give you a scary story with no juimpscares and it's only six words.
Only half of India has internet.

>>717350637 (OP)
>balding
It's so over...

>>717358948
Sad to hear about your fucked up eye, and I more or less agree with you.
The only game I can think of where jump scares actually worked on me is Dead Space. That's the most horrifying game I can think of.

>>717359096
AAHHH!!!

>>717351656
>>717351868

>>717357084
Yes, same as the golden gay in sanfran

>>717359106
>mfw I never understood why people care about balding, you're just getting older
>mfw I start balding
>it's over

>>717359148
>The only game I can think of where jump scares actually worked on me is Dead Space.
I fail to see how. Considering the stuff there it all feels like a precursor to all the OOGAABOOGAA jumpscares.

>>717359148
>Sad to hear about your fucked up eye
Eh, I'm better with no depth perception than most people are with two eyes so I don't really care. Benefits of being raised by a carpenter. I just use it more as a point of reference that the strongest fear a person can feel is consequence-based. Random arbitrary surprises instill no fear, you need to actually produce a reason to feel fear from whatever is accosting you. Darkwood does not jumpscares but it's super rich in consequence-based mechanics that help amplify proper fear responses, as well as having a narrative that genuinely can instill dread because it also discusses the consequences of some things.

>>717358606
How Mario gets damaged in lava is unironically more realistic than how they treat lava in movies.

This is probably going to be unpopular but have actually scary things in your games, when I say scary I don't mean spooky ghosts or monsters, but things that you should genuinely be terrified of in real life. Look at this template:
>Green = Real and dangerous, can happen to you in real life and will hurt you or kill you, you should naturally be very scared of these things
>Red = Not actually real or no actual danger therefor you have no logical reason to be scared of it

Games like Outlast and Condemned are scary because most of the things trying to torture and kill you are homicidal psychopaths that exist in real life and even though the chance is rather small, it could technically happen to you.

>>717358732
A human doesn't weight enought to sink in lava/molten metal
You wouldn't even have a cool last pose

>>717359518
Bumpkin horror is an underused concept. If any devs wanting to make a horror game need a pitch, I can tell you right now that pic rel tells more of a story than anything else and it's a very spooky one.

>>717356645
cuck mentality

>>717351656
awww shweet Lois, machine made horrors beyond my comprehension!

>>717359518
>Resident Evil
>real

>>717358948
A fucken cyclopean brother. I lost my left eye when I got glassed in a fight outside a bar in Wellington. Then the cunt that did it
> seeing a biker with a fuck-ugly mug and a crowbar he's about to beat you to death
tried to pull this shit on me to make me drop the charges. I was out and my giant Maori flatmate chased the cunt off. Someone gave out my address probably for money. The feeling of betrayal and paranoia is true horror, I can't think of any games that capture the former but Aliens Dark Descent and Alien Isolation def capture the latter.

How are you with driving now? My depth perception seems to started relying on other queues than parallax and I only notice its gone in very specific situations

>>717359910
that or a fallen tree randomly in the middle of the road

>>717358619
>makes a sound and bomb proof cellar with an electrical locking system only he can open
>lures his daughter into the cellar and pushes her in
>rapes her daily, has 8 kids with her
>he did it because he didn't want any other man to touch his daugther
this is your ideal

>>717352842
>Only game that even comes close now is RE8.
>It’s 100% what the SH2 remake missed.

I didn’t realize that today was opposites day.

The main problem with horror IMO is the limited focus on sound. Top spooks in films often come from what people hear, not what they see and vidya shouldn't be ignoring this aspect. This is something alien isolation did pretty well with given you actually only see said alien a handful of times but you can sure as fuck hear it creeping around.

Also some good HDR would nice for that fine granularity in dark shades without the whole scene blowing out because the heroine lit a match to see.

>>717359956
why did kojima do it?

>>717360181
the most terrifying thing is that i completely understand him

>>717360243
La mortalidad

>>717357685
Uh, Lake Mungo is literally a film-length buildup to one jumpscare. It's the best jumpscare ever, but it's still a jumpscare.

>>717360141
A fallen tree is attributable to nature. I live in an urbanite yankee utopia with a murder rate of once every eight years (and of those two murders in the past ten years, both were murder-suicides over marriage bullshit) and I've seen trees fallen in the road after hurricanes and car-accidents. Shit just happens.
Nailboards? That's intelligent design. That's how you know someone's trying to get you hurt at the minimum. And THAT is scary.

>>717360108
>How are you with driving now?
I didn't get my license until after I lost my vision in my left eye funnily enough. But I've never had an issue, I drive with my brain, not just my eye.

>>717353660
RE1-RE0 is definitely that for me. One thing the remakes have ditched that I think really hurt it was the music. I miss when each area had its own atmospheric theme that was instantly recognizable. Like if you were listening to the soundtrack, you would be able to instantly identify the library theme, or RPD first floor, or Marshalling Yard, etc. The sounds of the building creaking and raindrops tip-tapping on the windows are nice, but not a worthy replacement.

At least Bloober appreciated that Akira Yamaoka’s music and sound design is just as much a part of Silent Hill’s DNA as the fog or the creatures that inhabit it.

>>717358216
Wasn't this game made by the same people that made Dead by Daylight?

>>717358606
>tick
>tick
>tick
>tick
>tick
>tick...
>*tsss tsss*

>>717360567
fallen tree is kinda like the nailboards but basically the same goal, you stop cause of the tree and then feral browns jump out of the bushes and attack your car trying to pull you out and kill you+your passengers and steal anything of value (another tree probably fell behind you to cut off your escape)

>>717356871
That’s basically what the Friday the 13th game should have been. Kind of like that Jaws game that let you play as the shark.

>>717360325
some of the children got sick, died and he tossed them out like meat bags

>>717360849
The issue is that's too much of an opening fakeout. A hard and fast start of "You are being hunted" by having an obvious trap right there can immediately kick up fear. Also despite being just a tree, nailboards are a bit more primitive and help sell the idea these guys are assembling tools specifically to harm you and they're not going to be efficient, they're going to be ugly and hurt.

>>717361080
ok i didnt think that far
nevermind i dont get it

>>717351656
What program can do this? Looks better than any horror movie or game I had this year.

>>717353365
>suicide forest park
Like an amusement park?

>>717360064
It's the Virus category you nigger. Are viruses not real?

>>717359518
Bumpkin? Redneck? That's how you'd describe cannibals with a gargantuan kill count? We need a better description for that slasher genre.

>>717360181
Why would he do this to his own daughter instead of some random chick he's not related to?

>>717356485
Because you might survive it.

>>717359739
that sucks, I must increase my mass

>>717359910
The Hills Have Eyes would make for great vidya. Lots of mutants to sneak passed/fight, and they like using traps. I imagine it like a Metal Gear Solid 3 but you don't have high quality military gear, just old dirty weapons like handguns and hunting rifles that the killers have gathered over the years. Depending on how fantastical you want to make the mutations, you can have a lot of variety for stalkers/boss fights.

>>717359956
KOJIMA NO

>>717350637 (OP)
Stop relying on boring tropes and come up with more original stuff.

>>717351656
>>717351868
>with AI
>not posting that video with a guy whose head turns into pasta
Do it.

>>717356645
Is it?

>>717361305
Saars, halp>>717351656

>>717362403
This is actually a retarded take when it comes to horror. Horror is not something that needs to be "revised" or "updated." The human fears of the dark, and snakes, and spiders, and the unknown, are intrinsic to our being - the culmination of thousands of years of evolution. If you pretend that "the boring tropes" don't scare you, it's because you live such a sheltered and secure life that you've never had to face any real adversity and your fear response has been trained out of you. You're like a mouse that has toxoplasmosis - you've been conditioned to ignore things that SHOULD scare you.

>>717352880
>IA
Guaranteed replies. Here's your (You)

>>717362919
perchance

>>717351868
mutts are disgusting

>>717350637 (OP)
I thought the hair was a beak and eyes and it was a fucked up baby bird

>>717360401
This movie is just sad more than anything, seeing that she actually was in the photos and still in the house as her family move on is so tragic, still failing to understand her after death gave me such a sense of dread and sadness I don't get as often nowadays.

>>717363402
Huh? Is this a bot misinterpreting a webm?

>>717363085
Might be, idk. Modern society is obviously only a mere tool for a few money and power holders.

>>717350637 (OP)
Horror games have atrocious gameplay. The rest is for you to find out.

>>717356928
Im a big guy

>>717364398
>the real horror was the gameplay all along

>>717357084
>Something I thought about is that suicide is like a mind virus, considering suicide is actually a strange idea in most circles so when it enters discourse people actually start considering it.
This is true. I never considered suicide until I knew someone who did it and now I consider it a valid option (if things ever get bad enough).

>>717363060
or, you know, losing your fear response by getting desensitized by the consumption of horror media, which happens a lot as people grow older.

>>717350637 (OP)
more deep sea

>>717362113
Density, you have to include density. Even fatasses can float on water.

Is there a singular horror game where a female protagonist has been raped? No indies please.

Psychologicaly that would be scary.

>>717352583
real life?

>>717364675
Kek. Horror games suck on a technical level. Even lore being depicted in gameplay isn't a thing. It's a shit genre, in vidya as in movies. Likely due to the production value. It's easy to make horror media, cheap, too. It shows.

>>717351656
Anti-AI Trannies will deny this

>>717365123
Is she a dentist? She's cute. How much does she earn?

>>717365223
Tree fiddy an hour after converty for liberty bucks.

>>717365123
i wonder if the people that appear in AI videos will eventually sue them? It's obviously taking a bunch of stolen content

>>717365428
Every hour?

>>717351542
Norwood 5 is brutal

Horror games rely too much on just the visual part of the senses. More often than not it also tries too hard playing the "humans fear the unknown" spooky lore type shit.

Put as much equal focus on the other senses. Audio. Ambience and the works. Even touch if you can somehow masterfully script a controllers vibration.

Fear of the unknown is just one thing people are scared of. Losing your own mind is another, make the player (not the character, no the player themselves) feel like theyre going crazy. Play into paranoia, audio and visual hallucinations. Make them tremble at the thought their mind is failing them to the point where they legit might be scared they will develop schizophrenia if they keep playing. Make em feel like alzheimers/dementia patient who just got lost and doesnt know where or when he is.

Shit like that.
You can only do so much with scary looking creatures and encounters of "unknown paranormal/cosmic force"

Like fuck did no one realize body horror is not what made The Thing a masterpiece horror film but the paranoia aspect?
It seems modern horror games only saw the monsters and were like "Oh so thats what we need to do! Write that down! Ok we got our formula!" And then left the theater before the movie finished

>>717357020
me

>>717365509
@Nintendo, @FBI, @UN, @Copyright Goblins

>>717350637 (OP)
We'll never get truly scary horror until devs embrace VR and stop pretending a jumpscare on a flat screen is anything but startling.

>>717364862
Toxoplasmosis in mice IS desensitization to things that they should fear. Fear is something you should actively force your brain to remember, if you lack proper external stimuli to evoke it.
>as they grow older
From Dracula in the 1930s to modern horror movies, adults have always been scared of them and by them. This is not something that diminishes as you get older, if your brain is processing its chemicals properly.
Acting tough and pushing through fear is one thing, but denying that the fear exists entirely is admitting that something has gone wrong in your brain.

>>717358216
And Im mad that because of trans by dayblight all future and current slasher games are some fucking sweefest encouraging esports faggotry where it has no buisness making things more complicated for a villains objective to be other than. Find em, kill em.

Like since when does Michael Myers just not deliver a final blow but instead puts people on hooks and since when does any slasher survivor feel the need to sneak around and turn on generators or whatever instead of getting the fuck away from the villain.

So fucking stupid. May Makahala deliver a fiery vengeance the equivalent of 1000 burning comets on those who turned a genre that by all intents and purposes should be the most turn ya brain off, relax and slash/survive type game into some Adderall riddled sweaty competition.

>>717364970
I must get ripped beyond human capacity
I'll break physics or die trying

>>717351656
This is the kinda shit you see in your dreams on alcohol withdrawals

>>717366212
Are any of the OLED headsets good? Couldn't pay me to go back to playing horror on LCD. The screen on my Q3 makes me regret buying it.

>>717363805
>normies gonna mornie
What more is there to understand? Thoughts and prayers and make sure to spamfuck how much you loved this person only on their death anniversary

>>717365648
>mr lahey's alcoholism

>>717350637 (OP)
No more "run away and you can't fight back" shit. I'm not asking to be able to kill everything, but hide and seek games are fucking gay.

>>717361475
Viruses that make you into zombies are absolutely not real, no. You fucking imbecile

>>717365123
How long until we get AI porn like this?

>>717367391
Then clearly that is not what I am talking about

>>717356485
and no one would suspect a thing.

>>717366585
The "best" ones are the old outdated ones, Q1 and Vive1, I'd wait on Valve time or future releases if that's a deal breaker.
Or if you've got money to burn look into Pimax.

Fixed Camera

>>717365123
I love ai

>>717360401
Thanks for the spoiler you fucking fuck

>>717350691
Based

>>717352842
You should try Hollowbody, it's pretty lowbudget and doesn't have much content but it's one of the few recent horror games that gave me this feeling.

>>717351656
AI is amazing for body horror, desu, but I dislike it for everything else other than funny nonsense videos.