Thread 717351535

Who asked for this?
It's not as mindless fun as 2016, and it's not as intense and complex as Eternal either
And it has awful PS2-tier "vehicle" gimmick sections on top of that (the mech, the dragon and the turret)

>>717351535 (OP)
Hugo fell for the parryslop meme
Probably played through Sekiro and told himself "Hey you know what would be great? a heckin' Captain America shield and parry shite in DOOM!!"

>>717351535 (OP)
STAND AND FIGHT

>>717351535 (OP)
>Who asked for this?
The same zoom zoom console homos who praise Doom 2016 and Eternal. Literally the exact same garbage, that killed DOOM.

>>717351535 (OP)
Game flopped really bad
On top of the game being objectively underwhelming and sloppy when compared to Eternal and 2016, they had the gall to ask 70-80 bucks for the game, make it full raytracing with no way to turn it off, and release it with just the main campaign, no multiplayer mode, and no arcade mode like 2016 and Eternal.
The all-time peak numbers of players for Dark Ages is 31,401 3 months ago, with 200 players less than 2016 all-times peak of 31,623 in fucking 2016, 9 years ago, when Steam didn't have as much players back then
Abysmal AAA slop of the worst kind, you can smell the stench of Microsoft meddling all over it.

>>717353119
Surely they just make eternal 2 after this, right?

>>717351535 (OP)
Doom was never good.

Real gamers were playing Contra and Gradius.

>>717353250
Even if they do, it won't ever be as good as Eternal or even 2016 because no Mick Gordon
I know he's glazed to no end but his music slapped and added a genuine OOMPH and energy to the experience
The music in Dark Ages is awful, always the same kind of basic ass metal, all the tracks sound samey

>>717351535 (OP)
>Let's add a standard ass game story that introduce some literally who characters, and make the Doomguy seem like a side character to the story
The people that thought this up need to get fucking fired immediately
And to think people complained about Eternal's story, which true was buttfuck retarded, but it was still entirely driven by the Doomguy's actions, as it should be

>>717353119
damn do you think it's because steam is irrelevant and the game is on gamepass?

>>717354025
The story was incredibly more convoluted and disjointed than Eternal somehow, despite them allegedly focusing on it more (lol)
In Dark Ages I remember the cutscene where you go in the ancestral forge of my ass crack with the girl boss, mission ends, next thing you know Doomguy enters hell, no build up, no prior information letting you know that Doomguy needs to go to hell next
It almost feels like some cutscenes are missing, none of this shit makes any sense whatsoever

>>717354068
Hey Phil, I'm still not buying your Goypass

>>717351535 (OP)
>Who asked for this?
Me.

>>717354827
FTFY

What the fuck were they thinking with the dragon, mech and turret shite?

>>717353748
Nobody cares about mick gordon. He got mogged in a game where he had top billing as composer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0QQaiDzNXg

>>717354961
No one gives a fuck about your eurojank trash

>>717355050
He composed for the game, so yeah.

>>717354942
Had to pad the game length to justify the price tag and the money they pissed away on actors for the shit story nobody asked for.

>>717351535 (OP)
>intense and complex as Eternal either
i dont think fast weapon swapping is a complex mechanic but whatever

>>717351535 (OP)
I finished it 2 hours ago.
The art direction and atmosphere were great.
The plot... was ok but Carmack was right.
Lovecraft was cool and all but what does it do it here? Though I think they can make new brand game about Lovecraft worlds
The same for Dragon and Mecha. It doesn't belong here even if it was cool.
Didn't like parry gimmick, it ruined the rhytm of the battle for me,
Overall I liked but less than 2 previous games.

>>717356686
I swear the Cosmic realm shit adds nothing to the fucking game or to the themes of DOOM
Just green weird sea monsters world, with huge black monoliths.
Hell should be the place that is fucked up and weird, but in this game, Hell just looks like a normal place, orange swampy forests with volcanos
Hell was done much better in both 2016 and Eternal.
At least Urdak introduction in Eternal was good thematically, considering it's supposed to be "Heaven" realm.

>>717357016
>I swear the Cosmic realm shit adds nothing to the fucking game or to the themes of DOOM
I don't disagree.
All I tell is that if they made the game not related to Doom about this, it could be very good because art direction was great this time.

>>717351535 (OP)
>Who asked for this?
I did.
It feels good to finally get a version of Doomguy combat that feels like has real oopmh and weight and momentum instead of just being snappy or relaxed. This is the first nuDoom game in which the fantasy of "you're ultra aggressive and scary and the enemies fear you for a reason" of NuDoom is actually fulfilled in the gameplay, as opposed to previous games that just told it to you through lore while the gameplay was about keeping your distance and avoiding direct conflict.

The 2 major problems of the game: #1 the dragon sections just being way too long and happening too often. I don't mind the turret sections or mech sections lol they're both a total of like 10 minutes in the whole game, don't get why there's so much fuss over them. The dragon sections on the other hand add up to hours. #2 the overdone slow mo effect when you parry. Just breaks the flow of combat. Luckily an update soon will let you reduce or outright delete the slowmo.

>>717357016
>I swear the Cosmic realm shit adds nothing to the fucking game or to the themes of DOOM
>At least Urdak introduction in Eternal was good thematically, considering it's supposed to be "Heaven" realm.
The heaven guys are the cosmic realm guys. Pay attention.

>>717354068
how many times do we have to tell you other games are on gamepass and still sell well

>>717358958
no the wraiths are the cosmic guys
maykrs are from urdak

>>717354068
Clair 33 (among many other games) was also on GamePass day one and had 4-5x as many concurrent players as Doom (which would roughly track with sales seeing as it sold 3 million units in its first month). GamePass adoption on PC has never really taken off because everyone prefers Steam over the Xbox store.
DOOM Dark Ages has only reportedly sold a little more than 1 millions copies so far, which is fucking pathetic compared to Eternal's numbers and hype, COVID or not COVID.

>>717351535 (OP)
>Oh no I ran out of ideas!
>Throws shield, parry, openworld elements, on rails mech and dragon sections into blender.
Itsa new game that definitly doesnt take a dump on the fps genre

>>717361137
>Throws shield, parry,
The shield isn't really used as a shield unless you play on easy mode. Also what's wrong with parrying?

>>717363149
Riveting gameplay
And to think low IQ retards whined about Eternal's 30 seconds platforming sections for 5 whole years
Meanwhile you have to endure the painfully boring mech and dragon for 20 minutes at times

>>717363070
>The shield isn't really used as a shield unless you play on easy mode.
Playing semantics are we?
>Also what's wrong with parrying?
Overused, tired ass mechanic that every game needlessly includes nowadays, fuck you retard

>>717360990
>Clair 33 (among many other games) was also on GamePass day one and had 4-5x as many concurrent players as Doom
Gangdam style confirmed the best composed piece of music in the world

>>717364334
>Popular song analogy

>>717363149
>>717363475
This cannot be fucking real

>>717364392
So you are saying popularity is irrelevant in deciding quality?

>>717364307
>Playing semantics are we?
How is it semantics? Did you even play the game? Everyone knows it's not a shield in the traditional sense.
>Overused, tired ass mechanic that every game needlessly includes nowadays
List all the fast shooters that have parrying besides ultrakill and Doom Eternal.

>>717364641
No, it's the very fact that you're still using this kind of disingenuous and lazy ass "argument" in 2025
What's next? Car analogy? Food analogy?

>>717364851
>i-it's not a shield!
It's a shield with sharp edges, but please do keep on playing with words

>>717363149
>>717363475
this is certainly the fps of all time
bet the soifaced redditors must have been drooling on their keyboards with this shit
>OH MY SCIENCE, A DRAGON AND A MECH? WOWZER, SO EPIC AND METAL!

>>717364889
So why did you bring up some unrelated game's sales up then? Are you trying to say E33 is not better than Doom The Dark Ages but it sold more despite it? How is this supposed to help your stance?

>>717364983
I'm not talking about how the shield looks retard, I'm talking about the mechanics of the shield.

Also don't go cherry picking my posts, you forgot to respond to
>List all the fast shooters that have parrying besides ultrakill and Doom Eternal.
Or are you giving up on your "argument"?

>>717364889
>>717365335
>jaknigger is angry

>>717365450
'jakboard

>no reply to >>717365367
Did you ragequit the thread after 2 replies only?
>>717364889
>>717364983

>>717351535 (OP)
The combat loop is extremely boring after you reach the halfway point
Doesn't help that the enemy roster is quite limited, game doesn't introduce anything new after that, which is a big problem considering how the campaign drags on and on..
I've seen videos from the faggot Underthemayo where he explains some "tech" and it's basically just jumping through hoops just to achieve something as basic as weapon switching that isn't clunky and unnecessary slow
And when I say weapon switching, I'm not even talking about lightning fast combo switching, just switching your weapon during a fight

>>717368232
After fighting ten or so Cyberdemons, I realized at that point how formulaic and quite limited the combat is
Basically you go into the Cyberdemon's face, pull out your super shotgun, wait for green melee attack, parry, shoot SSG, wait for green melee attack, parry, shoot SSG, and so on
The game gives you little incentive to use different weapons or strategies against different enemies, just pull out your SSG and you will delete anything in mere seconds

>>717351535 (OP)
>Who asked for this?
literally eveyone that hated the platforming in Eternal.

>>717364889
>he didn't use a food analogy but I'm gonna try to pull the >food analogy card anyways
Your responses are so preprogrammed you didn't have a proper response to "song analogy" so you panicked lmao. Literal NPC

>>717368939
fighting him head on isnt supposed to be a challenge, he's just a target prio mob that you either LoS or focus

>>717363149
>>717363475
What difficulty was this on?

>>717372136
I don't give a fuck about challenge
I'm telling you the combat is boring as fuck

>Microsoft acquisition of Bethesda and so id Software
>Next game immediately turns to shit, panders to casual fucks
Like pottery
A shame, they'll now never be able to top Eternal's greatness.

Capeshit fatigue influencing vidya needs to die immediately. Thankfully it seems to be.

>>717352650
>that killed DOOM
But enough about "DOOM" 3

>>717372632
nightmare

>>717351535 (OP)
>Who asked for this?
eternalfags, they wanted another gimmickfest and they got exactly that

>>717376062
this game tries too hard to be the anti-eternal, so no, not really

When everyone was Pissing and Shitting themselves I was Ebola Village'ing

>>717352650
>killed DOOM
Killed nu/Bethesda-era Doom, you mean. The real Doom (classic) will live for as long as people keep modding and making maps for it.

>>717363475
>retard-proof slo-mo
>massive gatling autocannon looks about as impactful as starter smg in any other game
>enemy puts up block, does nothing
>barrels abruptly turn orange, then cool to normal in 1 second
>environment could easily be confused for regular scale
>no sense of inertia or weight in the movement