Thread 717351724

Now that the dust has settled, what's the best 3D DK?

>>717351724 (OP)
DK64 easily. Excellent music, gloomy tone, tons of fun to play as a kid with friends. New DK game is soulless odyssey 2.0 slop with memberberries. Plus no Lanky Kong.

DK64, without a doubt. It didn't need metacritic negative review deletion to be successful. Anyone who kept track of the negative review counter knows that over 2/3rds got deleted. I'd rather play minecraft, because you can build stuff out of the destroyed materials. Rare made better platformers than odyssey team. I know, hot take.

Hmm
>bananza is gotd made by the best platformer dev in existence
>dk64 is slop made by rare's z-team after banjo and conker teams
Hard one.

>>717354574
>Rare made better platformers than odyssey team.
You say that yet Rare never made anything that was actually good

>>717351724 (OP)
Bananza mogs

>>717354312
>memberberries
As if your argument for DK64 wasn't itself seeped in nostalgia
>tons of fun to play as a kid with friends

>>717351724 (OP)
Left is better.

>>717351724 (OP)
Bananza.
Most of the DK64 shilling is just to be contrarian or seethe at not having a Switch 2.
They don't even try to empirically compare the 2 as it pokes one too many holes in their narrative

>>717351724 (OP)
I've always been a DK64 defender. And I still am.
But Bananza is absolutely the more entertaining and impressive game.

Reminder.

>>717356598
Minecraft.
Most of the Bananza shilling is just to be contrarian and seethe at not having a brain.
They don't even try to empirically compare the 2 as it pokes one too many holes in their narrative

>>717357793
Reminder this artist is a talentless one trick pony.

>>717357926
There are a lot of comparisons you can draw between the two though.
Unironically. Isn't it kind of a failure on Microsoft that they haven't made a Minecraft game like Bananza?
Establishing Steve as something of a real character. Huge spinoff where Steve has a significantly expanded moveset in a genuine platforming adventure.
The regular Minecraft blocks already have hardness levels like Bananza's chunks. And whatever physics properties they like in Minecraft proper could be added to the spinoff for fun interactions.

Having Steve transform into different creatures might have been a bit weird. But why the fuck not? Why should any character transform in a game? Why should Donkey Kong, Mario, or Wario transform? Because it's fun.

>>717358063
Test

>>717357793
stop posting this guy's shit

The best game is Donkey Kong 94

Whole series is mid

Fess up, who here is a metacritic review moderator? You KNOW what you're doing is wrong. So many people bought digital copy of Bananza they can't even refund because they saw the reviews, and thought they were honest. All people have to do to know the space you're manipulating is full of shit is to have a real life conversation with people who bought and played the game, but you know people don't have as many irl friends as they used to, so you're exploiting it. Is nintendo paying you, or are you just a simp? You're a coward not coming forward.

>>717354574
>Anyone who kept track of the negative review counter
literally who would do this other than a severly mentally ill person

Bananza is overwhelmingly the better game but not nearly as charming aesthetically.

>>717351724 (OP)
Smash trailer DK is the best iteration and I will die on that hill.

>>717359612
literally who would use ad hominem instead of a real logical argument

>>717359735
literally when have you ever used a real logical argument

>>717351724 (OP)
The only people saying 64 haven't played Bananza and also haven't played 64 in over a decade

>>717358497
that's a reasonable opinion to have

>>717359815
Detailed reviews of with many valid criticisms of bananza from people who clearly played the game being deleted on metacritic = metacritic reviews are rigged. Where are YOUR logical arguments?

>>717360026
literally where are these detailed reviews

>>717357793
Kek yeah pretty much

>>717359729
>eyebrows only have the angry position
Lmao

Is there a Puzzle in the Caves Remix in Bananza?
I can't seem to find it?

>>717360082
I just said they got deleted, do you listen? People posted screenshots of them a couple weeks ago on 4chan.

>DK64
>tedious backtracking and dumb shit designed to pad out the play time so kids couldn't rent it and beat it in a weekend
>Bananza
>actually fun and interesting mechanics that work well together, doesn't waste your time with retarded padding bullshit, introduces tons of new shit while also paying massive homage to the Rare era

it's clear which one is better

>>717360026
>shit that didn't happen

Bananza is a good platformer, but I do not care for the art direction. It's way too similar to Odyssey, and it's Donkey Kong in name only.

>>717360270
Not that I know of. I think rambi's theme and a bit of K Rool's boxing match are the only 64 themes remixed in Bananza.

>>717351724 (OP)
I prefer DK64. While it is a slog going through the game with having to swap to different Kongs, Bananza didn't feel like a platformer to me and I would have much preferred a platformer. Bananza felt more like an adventure game rather than a platformer. You could say the same with DK64 with how much walking around you do but I felt there were at least more platforming segements in that game where as the only time I felt like it was a platforming game in Bananza was the food world and some of the challenge levels

I also don't know why Bananza was even a Donkey Kong game it fits Wario more

>>717360323
literally where are these screenshots?

>>717360337
>doesn't waste your time with retarded padding bullshit
80% of the game is the most boring part of Minecraft

>>717360268
Yeah.. like a gorilla.

DK64 was so bad it killed Nintendo until Wii

Says a lot that all of the arguments against Bananza boil down to "b-but the old design!" or "Wokey Kong".

>>717359729
Yeah, and those guys aren't the DK devs so he'd look like shit otherwise in his own games

>>717360636
Says a lot that all of the arguments for Bananza boil down to
>Says a lot that all of the arguments against Bananza boil down to "b-but the old design!" or "Wokey Kong".

>>717360686
Eh, nothing that can't be solved with an updated reference sheet.

>>717360520
All the 4chan topics from 2 weeks ago having to do with bananza say 404. Are you the moderator that deleted them? You're asking "where are they?" having a smug look on your face because you know where they are - deleted?

>>717357793
>>717359729
>>717360636
Who knew Donkey Kong fans were a bunch of Chris Chan tier autists.

>>717360636
What about stunlockable bosses and shitty soundtrack?

I like DK64. I like the aesthetic, I like the music, I like the worlds, I like the characters, it's got all that classic Rareware soul. But it's not very fun to play.

There's little in Bananza to distinguish it stylistically from Odyssey, and that's disappointing. But it's waaaaaay more fun to play.

Bananza wins.

>>717360812
I'm literally asking you to provide evidence of your claim

>>717360614
Gorillas aren't especially irritable, not sure why you didn't instead point out that DK is no exception to almost everyone being pissed in Smash Bros.
Even Cranky, who is characterized by his crabby attitude, isn't perpetually pissed.

do you think dk gets a horsecock when he zebra bananzas

>>717360517
Tag anywhere fixes most people's issue with DK64. It's like how people criticize castlevania 64 for having difficult jumps and camera angles, but it's a minor QoL fix. Have an easy mode with increased ledge grab leniency and aerial drift, and better camera, and have legacy mode for people who want a more hardcore souls-like experience. Both Dk64 and castlevania 64 have unparalleled atmosphere for their time, and were praised by both critics and fans at the time, i don't see why they get so much hate now. Minor QoL qualms is an easier fix than Bananza's glaring game design flaws. You can't make a toddler game into an engaging and mentally stimulating game adults can enjoy too

>>717361280
isn't that literally why people like the zebra

>>717351724 (OP)
Who tops who bottoms?

>>717351724 (OP)
only this cartoonishly contrarian shithole like this would say DK64 is a good game.

>>717351724 (OP)
What went wrong with 64 anyways? After the DKC trilogy and B&K a 3D DK by Rare should have been a banger.

>>717355414
Not him, but I'm replaying it now (albeit - with the tag mod) and it's an incredibly substantial game. Challenging at times as well.

>>717359729
Peak DK aesthetic, every self-respecting man should work on himself to look like this.

>>717360462
they "remixed" the dk rap by taking out everything except the first line

>>717361087
How do I provide it if you and your other 4chan/metacritic mod buddies deleted it? Sorry I didn't have the foresight to save everything knowing it would get deleted

>>717361874
you're literally making shit up

>>717361487
It is a good game, just the Kong swapping hurts the game immensely. With that fixed, it becomes a top tier N64 game.

>>717361414
This. Bananza comes out and suddenly everyone likes DK64 now. lmao

>>717361949
that mod exists and the game still sucks

>>717361280
Pauline also gets a horse cock iykwim

>>717351724 (OP)
64 is the example of a bad collectathon that most people recommend not to 100%

Bonanza turned my brain off. Like, way off. The difficulty is the exact opposite of 64. It's so easy and rewards you every ten seconds

They're both bad, but I'll go with 64 if you twist my arm because fuck Nintendo

>>717361949
Kong swapping is fun, they have their charming personalities on display inside the tag barrel, it's the excessive back tracking that's most people's problem. Maybe you could keep tag barrels but let people use coins as "tag anywhere tokens", since there's already way more coins in the game that you need. That way you could keep the early game tagging charm without the late game slog.

>>717361972
Hating 64 was always the contrarian opinion

>>717362012
Not at all. Playing it now and it's awesome. You're just a joyless sodomite.

>>717362310
post screenshot

>>717351724 (OP)
DK64 easily, in every way.

>>717360850
Entire internet focused on Sonic so the other autists were left alone despite being on the same level or worse

>>717360850
much unlike the autist forcing this meme

>>717357974
>>717358489
>>717360850
I have been playing and enjoying Trananza. I still find that image amusing, because I dont have a giant stick lodged in my ass. Every time I get a banana, all o can hear in my head is "Ooohhhh Wokenana".

>>717360850
lol

>>717363481
I've gotta replay 64 going OUGH CHUDNANA

>>717351724 (OP)
Bananza has Loline so it wins

>>717354574
ok snoy. we knew you had 50 accounts ready to downvote

Bananza>TF>JB>CR>94>2>1>3>>>>>>>>>>>
64

No one who plays 64 and Bananza back to back will prefer the former. Bananza is so much better it's not even funny.

>>717361357
Needing mods to fix problems the games have doesn't suddenly make those flaws go away because you need to modify the game to make it good

>>717354574
> It didn't need metacritic negative review deletion to be successful
How about you form your own opinions instead of caring about shit like that?, I doubt you played either games shitposter-kun

>>717364672
the mod doesn't even really make the game good either, just less boring

>>717364571
the retro dkcr/tf games are still peak kong

>>717364848
tfw pressing 1 button over and over in bananza doesn't even have a mod to make it less boring.

>>717365597
why are you pressing one button over and over

>>717357793
seeing stuff like this makes me genuinely sad, this place already barely makes OC and when it does it's the least funny shit I've ever seen.

>>717351724 (OP)
is DK64 even a platformer? Every video of it i see is just doing minigames and walking from switch to switch

>>717366118
it's a collectathon, so it's more about exploring a level to get shit

>>717366118
I mean you get abilities that give you access to new areas, jet pack, chunky boulder throw and size manipulation with tiny, ponytail twirl, lanky handstand for hills. It's an expanded move set of what you could do in mario 64

>>717361921
I screen shotted the ones that are there now, in case you wanna delete them. I guess I'll see you in a week.

https://youtu.be/9m5p2v8oFAU
DONG
KEY
KONG
SCREEEEEEEEEEEE

>>717364406
based and hebepilled

https://youtu.be/IOuxZiVf6GA

I fought my neighbor cause of this game. I had Donkey Kong, but he also bought it. I wanted to be the one with Donkey Kong. Let's see Bananza do that!

>>717367960
I thought it was gonna be a video of you fighting your neighbor. feelsbadman

>>717351724 (OP)
>chuddy kong

>>717355020
>rare never made anything good
What is the Donkey Kong Country trilogy on the super Nintendo entertainment system?

>>717351724 (OP)
The one that's not made for fetuses (shit is too mind numbing even for toddlers).

>>717357793
holy kek

>>717357793
>meanwhile the actual game

>>717361690
This isn't really relevant to what anon said, he was pointing out the double standard of criticising Bananza for memberberries while also arguing that 64 is good specifically because of memberberries

I never knew how autistic Donkey Kong fans could be. Gives Sonic Boom a run for it's money.

>>717354312
>tons of fun to play as a kid with friends

>>717351724 (OP)
Flawed as fuck 5/10 versus milquetoast 7/10. This is Blasphemous vs Ender Lillies all over again. In similar fashion the 5/10 Blasphemous beats 7/10 EL because it feels like a distinct game and not a generic forgettable disposable game. DK 64 is the worse game but between the two it is more worth playing. The better question is why play shit games at all?

>>717371143
Cunny Lilies wins because of the Uooooh.

>>717371202
EL is the definition of mid. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the first AI metroidvania made controls and plays exactly like EL.

>>717351724 (OP)
You know who
*clap*

>>717361357
>You can't make a toddler game into an engaging and mentally stimulating game adults can enjoy too
the moves that mario in m64 has access to gives the player more then enough tools to get through the game, as long as any game starts out flexible then more interesting challenges can be added later.
If you're talking about simple mods then yeah you're sol.

>>717351724 (OP)
64

>>717371843
I was talking about bananza. Bananza is SoL. DK64 isn't, just like mario 64 wasn't.