>We live in a world where Devil May Cry 2 is outselling Monster Hunter Wilds

Get back to me when Capslop sells some real numbers.

I really do hope Wilds sales keep sinking to rock bottom and that Capcom gets a loud wakeup call with this. This was supposed to be their new cashcow for the next decade, If this performs this badly the next MH will literally be forced to adress the enshittification.

I hope that's a signal that 60 fps matters

a couple more months and rise will be outselling it

>>717360793
As a response they'll probably drop the RE engine and go unreal engine like square and konami.

>>717360978
RE Engine is closer to Unity in development than UE, so they would have to switch from C# for scripting to C++ or blueprints

>>717360978
they have a new engine in the works that is supposed to be ready when its time for resident evil X called REX engine

NOW YOU REALLY CROSSED THE LINE

>>717360574
Kek SE shills dying alone

>>717360978
They're already making their new REX engine and its supposed to adress more demanding types of games like DD2 and Wilds. Capcom has been aware of the RE engine's problems with CPU heavy games for a long time.

>>717361189
can SE even afford shills anymore since their bankruptcy, you'd think they'd get rid all the useless shit like marketers, shills, ethics department etc to cut costs

I am tired and done talking about wilds. There are way better games to play and talk about

>>717360978
They would sooner adopt Vulkan than take up Unreal Engine

>>717360047 (OP)
I really hate when some literal who series like MH or RE stealthy becomes a big deal without me realizing. I mean, I know it's just because all the old successful game series have either cemented themselves are live services (Blizzard stuff, CoD) or got casualized to hell (Bethesda stuff, GoW) but it's still retarded. I don't know anyone who even knows what Monster Hunter is and to me it's just some sluggish gameplay crap with caveman clothes.

>>717362275
RE was big before any of the games you mentioned

>>717361258
>Capcom has been aware of the RE engine's problems with CPU heavy games for a long time.
>They're already making their new REX engine and its supposed to adress more demanding types of games like DD2 and Wilds
So why did they make DD2 and Wilds as they did if they knew full well they were going to run like utter shit?

>>717362452
RE was slow shit tank controls that nobody played unless it was the only game your mom bought.
But there's no point fighting, there aren't enough people from back then to remember the truth.
I guess we could post sales numbers but that's gay

>>717362534
Because AAA games now take 5+ years to make and they cant just sit and wait for R&D to make a new engine since they're not Valve and actually have to release new shit to keep investors happy with their fiscal quarters

>>717362275
You're not "with it" anymore, welcome to getting old normalfag

>>717362669
But it's true, unless you count the NES game as a RE title, RE became a big deal right off the bat

>>717361258
They should have course corrected sooner. I'm also not sure I believe they were "aware" of how bad their games would be running. Maybe they were, but to go ahead and just release it that way anyways without giving a single shit just goes to show how overly confident they were with their bullshit.

Let's not forget the recently canceled MH Wilds Optimization panel that was literally titled "Making Monster Hunter Wilds run smoothly! Everything you need to know about optimization". They're up their own ass and this is the kind of major blowback they needed.

>>717362534
Consolefags are fine with 30fps so they didn't have to worry about them but for PCfags, they were praying that everyone would use frame gen

>>717361059
Not necessarily. There’s a plugin for UE that lets you use C# with it.

>>717362275
>RE
>literal who
RE was the most lucrative IP in the whole medium for a while. Everybody and their dog has heard of Resident Evil. It was immediately popular.

>>717362534
They wanted to release the games by the end of their respective fiscal years, which end March 31st in Japan, to make themselves look better for shareholders

My question is why they didn't future proof RE Engine for bigger games? There's no way they thought they would only be using it for Resident Evil games. Every dev uses their own engine for other games if it ends up working half decently. As if they didn't use MT Framework for almost every game they made. Why do publishers love not planning for the future.

>>717360574
>>717361189
Flamewarfag

>unit sales ranking

Basically a $5 game sold more units than a $70 game, wow how crazy!

>>717363843
>Basically a $5 game sold more units than a $70 game
That's literally Capcom's selling point for investors, dumbass

Monster Hunter Wilds Netflix series to boost sales

>>717363843
It is crazy when it's Monster Hunter. This doesn't happen. Not this early. And even then it's lower numbers would still eclipse everything else in the same period.

>>717362790
The question wasn't really "why did they create these games at all?" but "why didn't they scale back development so these games would actually work properly on the engine they were using?"

>>717364610
did you forget Monster Hunter: Legends of the Guild?

>>717363602
>My question is why they didn't future proof RE Engine for bigger games? There's no way they thought they would only be using it for Resident Evil games.

They kind of did, it got a big overhaul for DMC5 to be able to handle fast paced action games. RE engine was kind of a happy accident to start with, it was literally made from the gutted corpse of the Panta Rhei engine, which was supposed to be Capcom's big new "main engine" after MT framework but it was a complete fucking mess and consoles could barely run it. (Partly because Sony and Microsoft lied about the specs of the Xbox One and PS4, also why AC Unity runs like shit). RE engine is like a stripped down, more efficent Panta Rhei. I don't think there was any longterm plans to actually use the engine much beyond RE7, but RE7 ended up being very optimized and efficient with its asset creation. Capcom played with using Unity for Umbrella Corps and we know how that game ended up. RE engine was also way easier to work with than their previous MT framework which a lot of Capcom devs were really frustrated by.

Basically, RE engine won because every other option was less attractive, they got way more milage out of that thing than they probably intended

>>717363843
Remasters barely cost anything to make. Selling them at any price point is basically free money compared to the multiple millions spent on dev and marketing of more recent games.

>>717361258
>cpu heavy games
>in games where they have unnecessary shit going on at all times with 200 & 11 miles of shit you cant even fucking see fully rendered & active
Lmao

>>717361347
SE hasn’t recorded a red quarter in like 20 years anon even with giga flops

>>717363843
Public companies care more about growth than pure profits, which units sold are a better indicator of

>>717364828
Neat. Thanks for the info.

>>717364238
Consider the following: investors are retards if they seriously do not consider price points and current reception. DMC4 is dogshit, but if you can buy it for a dollar to at least try it out, that's an extremely low buy in you can forget about in a week if you didn't like it.
You buy something at retail price and don't like it, you're left with a small gouge in your wallet and even more dissatisfaction.

>DMC5 has reached 11.8 million units sold
Just fyi the only non-RE or non-MH Capcom title that has sold more than that is Street Fighter 2 (at 14 million).

Wilds was discounted to 1980 yen at Japanese retailer GEO

>>717360047 (OP)
>game that goes on sale for 5 bucks multiple times a month is out selling a game 10x the cost.
Wild! Absolutely flabbergasted

>>717367009
>There are people on /v/ who browse Japanese retailers looking for sales data to try and "prove" that Wilds failed

What are you doing with your life dude

So what would you guys want out of a DMC 6 and a DMC 2 remake/special edition?
>>717360047 (OP)
I may shit on DMC 2 but fuck it had a cool outfit and it has flip kicks

>>717367174
That is outside of the norm for MH.

>>717360047 (OP)
Fucking idiot.

>>717366621
>>717367174
You're interpreting the situation incorrectly.

If every game that went on sale would sell they'd put everything on sale all the time, but that's not how it goes. These unit sales are an indication that there's interest in DMC as a whole, regardless of what people are paying for it. It's not just people picking a single game because it's cheap, it's people being interested in the whole franchise and even side content like the Netflix show.

That means that when they release a new DMC games the buyer base is going to be much, much larger than they were before.

>>717367329
You're a fucking retard.
>>717367327
>>717367329
The game is at max 30 fucking dollars and run on machines from 15 years ago
Of course it'll sell more than a 70 dollar new release.
I'm done talking to you faggots.

>>717367506
>The game is at max 30 fucking dollars and run on machines from 15 years ago
>Of course it'll sell more than a 70 dollar new release.
That's true of thousands of games, retard.

>>717367327
see >>717364238

I just bought dmc5se on PS5, making it my third copy of the game. I own like 7 versions of RE4 now with the remake.

>>717367695
Based booyer.

>>717367695
I still wish the SE added characters selection to all the missions or at least got port to PC.

>>717367695
Same, RE4 and DMC5 are two of my most reboughted games because they're endlessly replayable.

>This kills the brown schizophrenic retards

>>717360047 (OP)
>Those anons claiming that MHS3 was quickly made as some sort of emergency game after Wilds' legs got cut.
MHS3 has been obviously in production for years already, it has nothing to do with Wilds. Now Capcom suddenly speeding up the TU for wilds? Now that is an direct answer to Wilds' bad performance in the last quarter, they are in full panic.

>>717367882
5SE is the main reason I don't want to buy Dragon's Dogma 2, despite the fact I upgraded my PC.

I'm not buying an inferior version of a game, when they're going to make a re-release with new content, which should be a DLC in the first place, making the previous version worthless

When will they remake DMC2, it's a fucking perfect reason to remake it since it's literally a blank slate of a game.

>>717368046
They only remake games people like so they can sell them again

>>717368132
shame, they really should remake bad/mid game of the franchise instead of the good one. As long it's a remake of popular franchise like DMC and RE people will buy it instantly except if it's a multiplayer slop

>>717368037
DD2 is a current gen title, they wouldn't release a separate title for it, it would just be DLC.

5SE is a fringe case because it was pushed to help with the PS5's release. In fact you can see in the OP chart that they don't even consider it a "separate" release from base DMC5, because they don't want to be splitting unit sales numbers the way they used to.

>>717368037
I kind of get what you mean but most of the 5SE upgrades I just modded in. I have no idea what's going on with DD2 other than it being a side grade to DD1 and Denuvo fucking up performance.

>>717368335
>DD2 is a current gen title, they wouldn't release a separate title for it, it would just be DLC.
DMC5 still didn't receive Special Edition content on PC. Fuck them.
Switch version of DMC3 received exclusive style switching, full weapon switching and coop.

The open world "additions" to the game were just not worth it in the end, I'd much rather have World 2

>>717368474
DMC3 Switch version has hideous input lag and DMC3 PC still has a pretty active modding community that have added the Switch features and even better stuff. Best way to play DMC3 is still on PC

>>717368693
No reason why it shouldn't be on other platforms.
I just replayed DMC3HD with DDMK and the mod was basically broken in mission where you're in constant Devil Trigger

>>717368474
Yes dude, that's their whole catch. You release a new version of the game on a new console with a few extra features so people have a reason to buy the console and the title besides just owning it.

They used to do this with basically all their big titles, RE4, SF4, even Onimusha 1 got an Xbox version with exclusive content. But nowadays that doesn't make a lot of sense because consoles and PC are nearly the same market. That's why 5SE has one extra mode and turbo but Vergil wasn't exclusive, since people would've been furious if he was exclusive to that version.

Like I said 5SE was a fringe case. Same thing with Switch 3SE.

>>717366537
>which units sold are a better indicator of
No its not

>>717367218
>”wHaT aRe YoU dOiNg” says the tranime poster

>>717368813
>You release a new version of the game on a new console with a few extra features so people have a reason to buy the console and the title besides just owning it.
Switch 2 just released, PS6 and new Xbox were teased as early as 2026.
>Like I said 5SE was a fringe case. Same thing with Switch 3SE.
Both are Itsuno's games. DD2 is Itsuno's game. See the pattern here?

>>717360047 (OP)
It's more accurate to say that Netflix DMC is outselling MH Wilds because that's where Capcom cite the uptick in sales from

>>717369037
>The problem with Nata.

>>717367329
Hey retard, they don't put games on sale all the time because doing that LOSES THEM MONEY. Are you stupid on purpose or just on Tuesdays? Answer me that right now.

>>717369323
>they don't put games on sale all the time because doing that LOSES THEM MONEY
lol
lmao

>>717369586
You're a bit stupid aren't you?

>>717369657
Yeah dude, it loses all that money they would be making if the consumers wouldn't be buying their game at all.

>>717368632
They aren't even open world additions. It's just world maps, but you can walk from one to another via fake loading screen.
Also Wilds is absolutely World 2 and doesn't do much of anything to establish itself as a new generational title rather than a cheap iteration.

>>717369763
Yep, you're retarded. Let me ask you this and see if we can't get the those rusty, unmoved gears in that hamster wheel brain of yours working: do you know the difference between a distributor and provider?

>>717369906
Is that difference relevant to what we're discussing? Again, do you think the people buying sales would be buying those games if they weren't on sales?

>>717363843
This, it's the only reason DMCshitV sold as much as it did to begin with. But the DMCucks will still act like it's a massive accomplishment that it sold 10mil when 8 million were for $5 on Steam sales.

>>717370027
You are moving your own goalpost.
My ENTIRE point was that people bought it solely on sale for cheap, but providers lose on money from sales. Now you're agreeing with me?

>>717370314
>argue sales data
>wait no n on o n non on no nono no non o on ono THOSE SALES DON'T COUNT NO
why get into sales data arguments in the first place then

>>717370632
>You are moving your own goalpost.
No, you completely ignored that I was already saying the money being made itself isn't what's relevant here.

Again, if 4 million people bought DMC5 on sale for $5 and liked it, do you think that's going to make more or less people buy the next DMC title, full prize or not?

Let me repeat it for you again: It's not about the money being generated by the game, it's about the brand's value and reach. That's also why they're citing the anime as a factor.

>>717370763
>>wait no n on o n non on no nono no non o on ono THOSE SALES DON'T COUNT NO
Why game made more money, a game that sold 1 million copies at $70 or the game that sold 10 million copies at $5

>>717371519
So you want games to be at $70 then?

>>717371519
So you want games to always be at $70 then? You're going to be more incentivized to buy games if they're at higher prices?

>>717362790
>>717363573
but why try to go for such a demanding visual style when they couldve kept the game way more simple visually? all they had to do was design the game with the engines limitations in mind and not whatever they did.

>>717371519
NTA but you're retarded, companies care more about userbase growth than pure profit because it means the brand is thriving and can make MORE money. Its why live service games will happily undercut profits when the playerbase is growing, but as soon as the playerbase stops growing they jack up prices

>>717372206
>but why try to go for such a demanding visual style
The announcement trailer had PlayStation branding. Do you need any more hints?

>>717372206
>>717372559
Its not the visuals that tank Wilds performance, its all the dynamic ecolife shit(that you barely notice) game is CPU bottlenecked as fuck

>>717363843
Yet you scream that there should be more Mega Man games when they're $5 yet are never in these rankings. Curious.
>b-but Mega Man didn't have a cartoon like DMC did, you chud! There's no way sales of Mega Man could have increased!
Right, right.

>>717372267
>companies care more about userbase growth
No they don't, poorfag steamies dont mean anything to them except drip feeding them tiny bits

>>717373320
Why you making up things no one said or implied

>>717373643
>there's no Mega Man thread on /v/ right now so you're just imagining our whining that's in every Mega Man thread, chud!
Okay.

>>717373976
Then go to those threads and not bring that argument here unprovoked

Would be very funny if DMC5 beat Wilds in lifetime sales, I doubt it'll happen because everyone will come crawling back for the expansion but man.

>>717362275
anon MH has been popular for years where the fuck do you live?

>>717375430
It might not beat Wilds but it's possible it might beat RE8.

>>717375910
DMC5 is at like 11.8 mil now so it might

>>717360047 (OP)
MHW is one of the worst games ive ever played

>Village already back to selling more than REmake4
Capcom really lucked out with Lady D for this mid-ass game, they keep memeing here even though she gets killed off in the first few hours

>>717363602
Rise was on the switch, used the RE engine, and ran just fine. Covid just fucked the game's development hard. Capcom should have stuck to using fifth gen models for monsters for sixth as well. Wild's direction was just flawed from the get-go. Monster hunter never needed to have big areas

>>717362275
How did you even find this place?
This is beyond newfag.

>>717360574
can FF fag get their own board.
I don't even know what you niggers are trying to achieve. you exaggerate every drama, make up drama, try to make it sound like everyone cares except nobody does besides you

>>717379358
Why World/Wilds and Rise are so freaking different artstyle wise? World/Wise aims for an ultra realistic style that comes out as ugly and brown while Rise is just the old MH style but in HD.

>>717380816
Wilds and world aim for the western audience

>>717360047 (OP)

>>717374243
pls understand, Mega Man mind raped him, he can't help it.

>>717380816
>Rise is just the old MH style
No it is not. Risebabs should be banned from MH discussions.

>>717360978
It's not just the fucking engine, the people they outsourced the assets to didn't even optimize the 3d models like capcom usually did for portable series.
The topology density is all over the place for the monsters, even worse for the props and environments.

>>717360047 (OP)
Why is faggot may cry getting that sales spike all of sudden?

>>717382541
Netflix show plus sale

>>717382541
Great games

>>717375774
Let's be real, most people who are familiar with monster hunter nowadays only know it from Monster Hunter World.

Its sad that DMC's future is going to be remakes.

>>717381740
It's fine, the monsters can just drop to 3 poly mode if needed! :^)

>>717384048
Im somewhat interested in seeing what DMC1 and 2 remakes would be like since theyre so different

>>717370632
They don't lose money, they make less money per game but this is more than made up for by the increased sales volume. This isn't some physical product with a limited stock and tiny profit margin.

>>717362275
>>717362669
>RE was slow shit tank controls that nobody played unless it was the only game your mom bought.
Imagine being this fucking retarded about one of the most popular gaming IP's ever, absolute brain dead faggot

>>717362275
>I really hate when some literal who series like MH or RE stealthy becomes a big deal without me realizing.
You stupid faggot RE4 is one of the most influential games of all time. You brain dead cunt. You mental reject

>>717367950
>Alinea ANALytics estimates
>the same dumb eurocuck retards who think Forza sold 3 million copies on PS5
This is actually worse than posting VHshartz.

>>717360047 (OP)
D-Dogmabros...?

>>717387334
we're having a blast

>>717387676
Why is it always this term specifically?

Wow, I thought the "Wilds sales are soft" posts were just shitposting but Capcom really did admit it.

>>717387764
The shilling campaign for DD2 was insane; not even Milds or R4demake were so obvious. Shitcom went all in on propaganda for DD2.

>>717388010
Which is why all of the posts insisting Wilds is selling fine are fucking hilarious, they are literally arguing against Capcom's own word

>>717388365
crapcom spent more on shilling dogshit 2 instead of developing it

>>717388010
A Capcom board member could fart in the room and I'd probably hear about it from retards here furious they can't run the game before anyone in the room actually smells it

Serves them right. If you would rather have more monster hunter games and more resident evil games than more Mega Man games, then kys.
>
No no, you don't get to talk, just kys.

>>717387764
>I'm having fun
Generic
>This game is great!
Generic
>I'm having a blast
Seems organic

>>717389660
>y-you can't run the game!

>>717360574
>sales behind remake and 16
what a self own.

>>717382541
why are you gay?

>>717378772
Village feels so similar to REmake 4 in some aspects that there isn't much of a reason to jump on board and play it. And OG RE4 already plays fine so there's not as much you can do to re-imagine it like with RE2 or 3.

>>717380816
I'm going to guess that the Switch's hardware requirements forced them to get creative. That or World/Wilds went with a simple realistic artstyle in order to not only wow series veterans but to also get normalfags on board that never played a Monhun game in their lives. They fucked up with Wilds though because most World diehards just went back there.

>>717360047 (OP)
Its so stupid that they spent years on dragons dogma 2 instead of working on devil may cry 6

>>717372206
You want all the normalfag money? Graphics>gameplay, you might as well kill your game if you can’t compete with most sony game visually.

>>717394256
It's stupid that they spent years on DD2 only to rush it because they had to fill the spot for MonHun only for Wilds to flop and Itsuno to leave. DD2 did good but it could've been another DMC5.

>>717387264
Cope more faggot. Still doesn't change that wilds made much more revenue for Capcom than dmc 5 this year

>>717394256
>>717394507
They spent like 2 years max on DD2

>>717394560
If you had an IQ higher than 10 you'd know that literally all those dogshit articles are regurgitating "data" from Alinea's made-up fucking estimates.
>made much more revenue for Capcom than dmc 5 this year
No shit, you knob. In fact, it's sad that you have to compare Crapcom's best selling franchise to a series that was dead just a decade ago. Also another fun fact: Capcom literally and objectively said sales for Wilds were soft.

>>717368335
It was nice they made Vergil 5 bucks with Dante boss fights and new cutscene

>>717360574
based AND retarded

>>717360047 (OP)
World sold 2 millions on its first quarter, Rise also sold 2 millions on its first quarter, Wilds not even selling half millon on its first quarter is catastrophic.

>All monsters are shit
>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>No cat cooking
>No endgame
>No Elder Dragons
>No HR final boss
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No challenge
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?

>>717399670
Milds will never outsell World; I said it a million times from announcement to launch. It won't even touch Rise either which has been closing in on World aswell.

>>717397123
Still mad as fuck that we never got legendary dark knight and the other stuff ported to PC
it's been years now, no need to hold it hostage on console any more

>>717360047 (OP)
blastbros, we are forgotten

>>717399950
Is this a picture for ants?
I agree with MHWilds being crap but for fuck's sake, at least get something with a decent resolution.

Well, they got one sale out of me.

>>717360047 (OP)
The same thing will happen with GTA6. No one wants to play as an ugly boss girl in GTA. The buyers regret will be xbox hueg if they don't swap that latina with a Sydney Sweeney lookalike before release.

>>717373320
Retard.

>>717363843
Retard.

>>717384014
Only in Nipponland and nobody gives a fuck about that. There's a reason there are ton of games and series exclusive to that market.

Was it cheap pajeetcode that ruined Wilds and Capcom? Like how pajeetcode code ruined the GTA remakes and ruined Fallout 76 and Starfield and turned Bethesda into a huge joke all because they didn't want to pay for competent programmers????

>NOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU LIKE ANY MONSTER HUNTER GAME THAT ISN'T 4U OR WORLD!!!!!1!!!!
Why is /v/ like this?

>>717403620
Who are you quoting?

>>717403712
everyone on this board on any Monster Hunter related thread, ever for the last 10 years?

>>717403789
Yes the game that /v/ and /mhg/ hated because of the mounting and ledges everywhere and a weapon that completely made the hammer redundant and shitty maps is actually loved here lmfao your newfag is showing fool!!!

>>717403953
>please ignore how every Rise/Sunbreak thread ever was 100% shitted up by people screeching about how it wasn't World

>>717404049
We're talking about mainline here not fronteirshit spinoffs for children.

>>717404205
>frontiershit
>for children
Alatreon proved the average monhun player is a tard that can’t handle a bit of difficulty

>>717360574
>A-AAAIIIIEEEE PLEASE REMEMBER SQWAURE YEEEEENIIIIXXXX

>mainlines are flopping
>3rd parties are flopping
>live services are flopping
>mmo is flopping
>mobile games are flopping

We might laugh at milds, but it is at least relevant enough to be laughed at.

Just finished iceborne and it's great. I doubt that MH wilds feels the same as Worlds on the new RE engine. They should have just revamped the old engine and kept the maps smaller with new Monsters, then people could achieve 144 fps again. It felt amazing on iceborne. Insect glaive is fun

DMC2 chads..... We kneel...

It still sold 10 million in a month which is just shameful.

>>717360047 (OP)

>>717360793
Wilds still sold 10 million copies. You're just mad Wilds is a huge success and the future of Monster Hunter.

v

>>717360047 (OP)
c

>>717360047 (OP)
>high initial sales (it's a sequel to a big franchise after all)
>zero legs
Monster Hunter Wilds is officially the Dragon Age 2 of the series

>>717360793
MH was always overly grindy slop. MMO and gacha after it has ruined the brain of zoomers

>>717360047 (OP)
dmc2 isn't even in your pic lmao how fucked is your two digit iq? below 50? lawl

>>717360574
>less than nier automata lmao

Wilds is so underwhelming its actually fucking sad. Just make another game in the old engine and just copy 3 or 4's gameplay. Or make world 2 for the zoomers

>>717409730
Please leave this site. You ruin every discussion and you are depressed autist (retard).

>>717411225
how do I ruin every discussion I am in? feel free to explain why being critical about mechanics that exist to hopelessly pad out gameplay in order to obtain materials for a single costume since 2009 is good design.

>>717360047 (OP)
sa

>>717412752
-ar

>>717409930
Its part of the HD collection dumbass

>>717411161
>Or make world 2 for the zoomers
But that's exactly what Wilds is

>>717403953
That's weird, my recollection of /v/ threads for 4U at the time were unanimous praise. I must have shifted timelines again.

>>717407569
10mil from muh worlds 2 fotm and now selling less and having fewer active players than rise, such a success

>>717416128
>fewer active players than rise
And I can barely find join requests even with better matchmaking no matter when I look. That's grim.

>>717416758
It doesn’t have less active players than Rise you’re actually retarded if you believed that

>>717375430
>everyone will come crawling back for the expansion
Half of the playerbase disliked the game to the point that they dropped it and aren't even bothering with the free TUs, and the other half can either barely run the game or can't run it at all. By the time the expansion actually releases (which probably won't be any earlier than summer 2026 so as not to step on RE9's toes) any interest that people might've had in it is going to be completely dead. I fully expect Wilds U to be the worst performing expansion in the series

>>717360574
>2 million
Disgustingly high figure.
Rebirth deserved to sell less than 500K.

3k sales suck tough

>>717409643
You’re not wrong, anon. Wilds came out swinging on name recognition alone, but once the dust settled no one stuck around. The maps feel bloated, the new systems overcomplicate what used to be fun, and the pacing is just off. It’s got that same rushed-and-empty vibe that DA2 had - like they had a year to throw something together with leftover assets and a wishlist from the higher-ups. Sad state of affairs when even the fans don't bother with post-launch content.

>Wilds has poor performance
>good launch numbers, but no legs

>DD2 has poor performance
>good launch numbers, but no legs

Will they ever learn?

>>717417658
>Wilds came out swinging on name recognition alone, but once the dust settled no one stuck
People finished the game and went to play other shit

>>717416758
Because you're supposed to open rooms in Rise rather than relying on matchmaking.

>>717417771
Probably not, I'm fully expecting the exact same thing to happen with RE9 for the exact same reasons.

>>717417771
People would have been able to overlook the awful performance if they were amazing games. The true problem is that they're mid, AND run like ass, not even good impulse buys on a sale

>>717409643
MH6/Milds is actually the RE6 of the franchise. 1 to 1 situation including outsourcing the development to teams across the world making their own part then taping it all together and shipping it.

>>717419553
At least RE6 was firmly in "so bad it's fucking hilarious" territory, Wilds is just "so bad it's boring".

>>717360047 (OP)
MH Wilds has already outsold DMCV lifetime sales.

>>717419553
Its actually hilarious that Capcom repeated the same mistake they did with RE6 once again with Wilds. Overbudgeted and bloated, schizophrenic game design trying to appeal to different audiences.

They even made a GDC talking about learning from RE6's failure, but I guess the MH team didnt get the memo

>>717417782
Why didn't worlds drop off as hard then?

>>717420632
You weren't supposed to point that out, now he can't respond.

>>717419936
So I'm not genius but looking at the numbers Milds is at 10.10 mill and DMC5 is at 10.5 mill before this quarter update. Now Milds is at 10.5 mill and DMC5 is almost at 12 mill.

>>717421757
Capcom has a weird way of counting sales, they keep different versions seperate most of the time unless they top the sales.

So DMC5, DMC5SE, then DMC5+DMC5SE this last quarter.

9.1 mil + 1 mil + 1.78 mil
11.9 mil total

>>717424067
The total lifetime sales on that chart are for base 5, funnily enough. So we know base is at 10.5 and SE is at around 1.4.

>>717360574
I remember when SquareEnix were disappointed Tomb Raider *only* sold 3 million

>>717360978
Capcom swore off Unreal Engine after Lost Planet 3 and that failed Megaman concept game.

>>717427315
SFV and MvCI used UE4.

>>717428160
And they were garbage.

>>717429795
That's hardly the engine's fault, they had pathetically low budgets because Capcom was on the verge of bankrupsty