Thread 717371795

/v/ isn't ready for AI to change the way games are made forever

I already played games that felt like a second job

/v/ isn't ready for AI to change the way games are played forever

dude we don't even have decent text to speech AI or chatbots still. you really think AI games are gonna be a thing anytime soon?

>>717371795 (OP)
I already don't buy modern games
I can't not buy them any harder :(

>>717371795 (OP)
amazing how nothing interesting happens in any of these

they should probably focus on making the videos not look like shit and obviously AI before adding side stuff like "world memory"

>>717371795 (OP)
Another win for immersionfags
Another loss for anyone who values real actual gameplay
What a surprise
The biggest mistakes were letting casuals in, making them the target demographic, then cultivating the subspecies for casuals: immersionfags, IT'S ARTfags, and specfags

>>717371795 (OP)
Spawn sporty tomboy gf with tan-lines that loves me

>>717373845
>error: insecure prompt. you have been suspended due to a violation of the TOS

>>717371795 (OP)
I can't wait for companies to give us real time interactivity for VR job training. Soon we can finally earn the experience they demand for entry level jobs.
>this job requires 1000+ hours of simulated training in order to apply

>>717371795 (OP)
Loving the GAMEplay in these

Even if you ever even use the tinniest most micro small (like your dick) use of AI i'm not going to buy your game, i will shit talk it on every single social media outlet and review bomb it.

eat shit nigger.

>>717371795 (OP)
So AI is just going to copy the working a job Sims? Can't wait to put off painting my walls while I paint virtual walls.

>>717371795 (OP)
>"Research prototype"
As usual, no gameplay, no hype.

>>717374547
Don't you get it? You can finally experience the joy of working a minimum wage job at your leisure

There will come a time where normalfaggots are paying a thousand dollars for hardware that runs carefully designed prompts costing over $100 each through a subscription service that costs them $100 bucks a month.

>yet another aijeet VC funding advertisement thread
Did everyone forget about the payment processors and online censorship? Was that forced off the board for more aijeet marketing?

You can't put Genie back in the bottle once it's out.

>>717374003
>Officers have also been dispatched to your location. Misogyny will not be tolerated and our labour camps can ensure you are...properly educated.

>>717372160
this, if they want to sell sloppa for the few millionaires on welfare down in San Fran, they can though

Great Firewall for India that just locks them into their own hellscape internet when

>>717371795 (OP)
>ai can now place objects and generate collision
it's so over. give it 2 more weeks and it will be doing complex math and making gem socket systems like in path of exile.

>>717371795 (OP)
walking-sim sisters... we fvarking won...

>>717375325
Yeah but knowing AI you have a 50/50 chance of it forgetting the genie exists or hallucinating two genies.

>>717379198
until it's a 0% chance

>>717378881
Can't wait for Death Stranding 3

Can't wait for China to steal this tech and unveil it in 3 months.

>>717375325
is there more footage of this? like a long session of walking around. So far all I've seen is shorter than the attention span of a zoomie

>>717371795 (OP)
Dude sandbox slop!

GOOD MORNING, SAARS!

>>717371795 (OP)
It's been 3 years. These vaunted AI games should already be out
>w-well it takes time to-
You faggots claim that it speeds up production by like 1000% We should be getting bombarded by a bunch of these AI masterpiece games, right fucking now. Where are they?

Woah, lots of walking around generic fields and extremely rudimentary platforming...

>>717372210
Very interesting

>>717371795 (OP)
>le generating le heckin' fake landscapes
Yawn. I still haven't seen landscapes better than fucking Skyrim yet. Ooh, now they're generated by an algorithm instead of a bored intern pulling up the ground geometry to make hills for eight hours a day? Whoop dee doo.

Make an RPG with characters that react to what I say and do in real time. Let them talk to me and let me make decisions that change literally everything in the story. Then get back to me.

>>717371795 (OP)
>see portal to empty arid desert wasteland
>think "Oh, yeah. That seems preferable to my contemporary life."

>>717371795 (OP)
>real-time interactivity
>literal empty map with zero interactivity
What did they mean by this?

>>717371795 (OP)
I'm not interested. If all new games are gonna be AI-made, I will simply stop playing new games. My hobby is games made by humans.

>fake resolution
>fake frames
>fake textures
You are here
>Fake games, full stop

Thanks I hate it.

>>717371795 (OP)
(((ai))) is kike propaganda and I will not fall for the Mark of the Beast.

>>717371795 (OP)
Every single example there looks like dogshit, which makes it even worse because you know they've cherry picked only the best segments from all of their options.

>>717371795 (OP)
>procedurally generated walking simulator.
Nothing new, we had games like these for a decade already.

>>717375326
>using the tranny ellipsis for extra le funny drama value XD
no.

>>717372627
the people they are marketing this to wont notice

>>717371795 (OP)
i don't respect anyone who has a keyboard like that

>>717371795 (OP)
Of course I'm ready.
How cool would it be to play any kind of game from just a prompt?
However, it has to be good. I mean REALLY good. Blow fucking socks off with how good it is, and if AI is what it takes to do that, then so be it.

>>717379707
Interesting, but also stupid.

Not good enough but it is getting there
If Genie 1 was shit, and Genie 2 was still kinda shit, and this Genie 3 i alright, Genie 4 will be good, and Genie 5 will be great
Wait until Genie 5, so probably next few years, then it will be more useful

>>717383029
Yep. Soon you can't even find old games, because they will drown under similar named ai slop games by the thousands.

>>717371795 (OP)
Modern LSD Dream Emulator

>>717386260
Yeah, that's basically AI in a nutshell right now. We’re at the “wow that’s kind of neat, but also really dumb” part of the cycle. Every “innovation” feels like a glorified tech demo with zero soul. Wake me up when it stops trying to spoonfeed me autogenerated dialogue trees and actually simulates a world worth giving a shit about.

>>717383548
You have issues

>last week the omw goes viral
>anti-AI retards say it will never be a playable game
>a week passes
>you can now play it
kek

>>717389689
I think they meant it will never be a game anyone wants to play

Woooooow, great games you can hold W to.

>>717389776
Half this board plays gacha shit with barely any gameplay. I don't know why anyone would think AI can't achieve what it does the bar is so low.

>>717371795 (OP)
I don't see how this is any more revolutionary than generating a Minecraft world and walking through it

>>717389776
nice cope faggot

>>717389689
>W the game
I don't know what is worse, AI that generates this, or the people looking forward to this.

>>717390207
because you have a double digit iq

>>717383106
Ok.

>>717372210
What? Didn't you see the brutish, crimson dragon diving down headfirst from above, impacting the canal like a cannonball and causing a deep, explosive splash, which then sent a column of water straight up, followed by the water raining down and drenching the entire area?

>>717371795 (OP)
What a dogshit keyboard. No one actually uses that trash, right?

>>717389689
Show me a playable game. Not a tiktok video, not a youtube short, not a webm of someone walking forward. Show me something that is an actual playable video game, you know with an actual game in it. The closest anyone has ever done was that AI quake demo a while back where everything looked like blurry diarrhea, felt awful to move in, and everything around you was hallucinated and forgotten with no cohesion at all. That is where AI "games" are right now, these retarded cherrypicked tech demo clips are no indication at all that we've moved anywhere beyond that.

>>717372056
As a guy who develops new AI models yes, you are going to have shit you cannot believe. I really have no idea where technology this potent is going to take us. It's a shame we keep adding conditional layers to make sure the models don't comprehend race

>>717371795 (OP)
>>717390727

>>717371795 (OP)
How many 5090s will I need for this? Or even worse, how much is going to be the subscription to this service?

>>717373845
Ok but she WILL have a penis.

Anti-AI people are the cringiest cocksuckers on the planet.

Pro-AI people are the cringiest cocksuckers on the planet.

>>717392849
gamedevs can't even get their shit games running smoothly and we're supposed to believe this shit will be the future and widely available? lmao it's the VR shit all over again

>>717393802
>we're supposed to believe this shit will be the future and widely available?
People will bow to it.

>>717375325
This in 10-20 years should be pretty crazy

Listen, I want to live in the eternal gooner realm like everybody else, but believing marketing material is tantamount to being gay AND retarded.

>>717372627
How the fuck is world memory a 'side' thing? It's one of the most important things in an AI game of any type.
Nobody wants to play a game that has no continuity of visuals/mechanics. Anyone even thinking about the concept of AI videogames will consider this their top priority.

>>717390727
There is no momey to be made with ai. People see it as novelties for a week then forget about it. All thoae investors are gonna bankrupt so many people.

>>717375325
they HATE this one weird trick that makes him walk forward better

>>717390727
I don't believe it's going to be economical anytime soon. Sure, datacenters can run this shit on massive power drain, but eventually the venture capital bucks are going to dry up and they're going to want to see returns on this shit.

Maybe if we see revolutionary new computers with quantum shit, but we always seem to be just "2 more years" out from that shit.

>>717374003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhUvIxHFQk

>>717395070
1-2 years bro

>>717371795 (OP)
>no actual gameplay
It seems the AI isn't ready as well

>>717395671
No, you don't get it, walking simulators are the biggest hype.

>>717395279
this is a glorified video model, it's not a fucking "game"
generative AI can barely get shit right in text form, let alone a fucking videogame

>>717371795 (OP)
>AI make me a game
>Fromsoft Soulslike
>Rogue
>Infinite possibilities
I swear soon enough we will not need ASIAN Developers to make our games, they will make themselves.

>>717375325
Genies automatically go back in the bottle once the 3 wishes are done.

>>717395365
Nah. Normies and midwits are obsessed with this shit.
They think chatGPT is their new friend/psychologist/lover/god/priest.

>>717379261
Its actually 100% becuase all you have to do to destroy it is say "no there are two genies ai"

>>717396198
The app thats not profitable?

>>717395365
this is the most retarded thing I have ever read

Just a reminder AI is a massive bubble fueled by hype because its entirely funded by massive private investment firms. The reason its so fucking obnoxious and artificial (heh) is because if the hype dies down and the firms wise up, the bubble pops. So far AI has 0 ZERO 0 tangible ways to actually make money beyond being a novelty. Its also really, really fucking expensive to run. When the investors inevitably pull out all the corpos who were promised super cheap alternatives to paying real people will be in for a world of dissappointment when they will be forced to foot the bill instead.

>>717372056
>this nigga really never heard of Maya/Miles by Sesame AI and is saying that there are no good speech AIs

>>717396380
It doesn't matter.
This shit is so popular it's either never going away or never be coded for something useful.

>>717395802
cope

>>717396616
Until we have fusion cores, the energy to generate this internet scrape garbage will never make a dime. Thats just a fact of energy being energy.

>>717396838
>Until we have fusion cores
Just two more weeks.

>>717396756
>basic walk in a line simulator
woah all those first month unity devs are in SHAMBLES
saar AI won

>>717396838
We literally have more computational power in our pockets than supercomputers that took entire rooms in the 90s

>>717372160
/thread

>>717396950
And 2 years ago we had will smith eating spaghetti that was a joke compared to now. What's your point?

>>717396519
Trust the singularity plan, luddite

>>717397079
yeah yeah it's only going to get better
how dare I not chase the hype blindly

>>717396838
Nah, they'll just pull a uber/doordash/amazon/modern-tech-company where they keep prices low and consistently reinvest in R&D and the user experience to garner customers until they reach full market saturation and little competition, and then they'll jack up the prices while reducing their services to a much more profitable level.

>>717396985
Not computation power you dip. Actual power, energy, amps and watts n such.

JUST 2 MORE WEEKS BRO 2 MORE WEEKS AND AI WILL FINALLY BE LITERAL SCI-FI MAGIC THAT CAN DO ANYTHING TRUST ME BRO IT WILL DO ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE IN JUST 2 MORE WEEKS

>>717397289
Yeah and what do you not understand that we have smartphones that sip wattage that are 3 times more powerful than this that ran on 850Kw?

>>717395538
At the current rate? Kek, no way unless another major breakthrough happens

>>717396519
It has potential for medical uses but I agree that commercialization should be strictly banned from AI. Outside of personal use then it should remain purely for the benefit of the public because we've already seen how many fucking scams are being perpetuated by the use of AI, take money out of the equation entirely and you're all good.

>>717397631
the only thing I will admit AI is good at is its application as a data analyzer in the chemical/medical industry. Everywhere else its pure slop

>>717371795 (OP)
I like the part where you have to be careful where you look or how fast you pan the camera the entire system will cease to exist instantly. 10/10!

>>717388521
I was just making a Laugh-In reference, but yeah, you're pretty much right.

>>717375326
ATTENTION BAJORAN PROMPTERS

>>717397463
Depending on the task, it would actually be cheeper yeah. Ai is an energy sink that even ONE generation of text only is a measurably high ammount.

>>717371795 (OP)
Just buy the 10 million dollar server farm

games have failure states

>>717398039
You just pull that out of your ass or something? Each response is a fraction of a watt. It's not even comparable.

>>717371795 (OP)
It won't change anything for me because I don't play hyperrealistic AAA slop to begin with

>>717398226
This isn't for you. It's for "people" that play roblox and gacha on their phones.

>>717392704
Saved. Love how not a single AIfag replied to this.

you all dont understand, we're literally getting the holodeck. video games today are going to look like atari compared to what we're gonna get (as you complain the whole way)

I LOVE AI
I LOVE AI
I LOVE AI, MORTY!!!

>>717398527
Probably, but not with this specific tech.

>>717371795 (OP)
Not interested.

>>717371795 (OP)
>0:37
>even machine learning cant do mirrors/reflections
It so over, we need to go back to 90s-2000s

>>717398830
The simulation doesn't want you thinking of those

>>717371795 (OP)
>Prompt blocked
>Prompt blocked
>Prompt blocked
>Your account has been suspended
Woooooooooooooow nice AI you got there.

>>717371795 (OP)
i feel like im turning into an indian just from watching this

>>717392704
kek

>>717389976
I hate how you are right

we all know what happens when people get the power to mod skyrim.

>>717371795 (OP)
>>717375325
>>717389689

>>717398451
I highly doubt gacha freaks would be interested in this, it's like opposite of gacha, which is virtual figurine collection. The fuck you gonna collect in this? World destroying moments when you turn camera too fast?

>>717398964
>he doesn't generate all his loli locally
Oof, I genuinely feel bad for you. I can generate as much loli 69 or deep throat or whatever I want, as much as I want. Lately I've been on a "evening empty classroom" kick

>>717371795 (OP)
AI is going to be worthless soon once it outprices itself. Remember, these companies are running at losses and hemoraging loses. Once one or two monopolise the market and also finds a way to be a crucial convenience to business and the general market, it'll become crazy expensive.
ChatGPT's payment plans go from $20 a month to $200 and that's nowhere near enough to stop losing money even with the millions of venture capital money at the same time.

>>717390727
Right, how goes that power demand to architecture bottleneck?

>>717371795 (OP)
Call me when AI can generate Godhand type gameplay instead of this Sony cinematic simulator type bullshit.

Can't wait for AI generated, snoy approved walkie-talkie bullshit "games.

Thread smells like shit and curry.

/v/ isn't ready for NFTs to change the way games are made forever

>>717396519
>Its also really, really fucking expensive to run
Expensive to train. Running AI's relatively dirt-cheap.

>>717399405
it's crazy how mentally challenged you are

>>717399405
>it's bad because it's not immediately profitable
Shalom!

>>717399405
openai is actually profitable
all losses you see are just them investing more to stay ahead of the pack

>>717371795 (OP)
If it gets good enough, the end user will be the one actually making the game.

post this in the other thread too

https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1949288986192834718
https://x.com/Escapation/status/1949917171465015578
the killer feature of world models is generating worlds
>gen the world
>import into game
ez pz

>>717399784
Didn't say it was bad. I said it's going to get bad. AI has rotten your brain if you can't understand that much.

>>717399895
There's a report out this year saying they hit $10B in ARR but still aren't profitable. And this is double over last year. They haven't had a profitable year.

>>717371795 (OP)
I'm already content with MUD style text games using LLMs that act as DMs. I don't need fancy graphics because all that means is that I won't be able to run it locally and if it I can't run it local then that means it'll be censored to shit. All I need is text, my imagination can do the rest.

>>717400128
>There's a report out this year saying they hit $10B in ARR but still aren't profitable. And this is double over last year. They haven't had a profitable year.
link report

>>717400167
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/09/openai-hits-10-billion-in-annualized-revenue-fueled-by-chatgpt-growth.html

>>717400147
Sorry, that's too hard. The best you can get is 10 minutes long porn fanfic, before "AI" starts shitting himself. And please, don't ask "AI" to keep a track of personal items and money in your fanfic. No questionable themes either. Also, if you are trying to ask "AI" of something opposite it was training on, then just don't.

>>717400424
You're not wrong, but that's only if you're still using the mainstream safe-tuned slop. Load up an open model, jailbreak it, slap it into SillyTavern or Kobold++ and suddenly your 10-minute porn fanfic becomes a 200k word degenerate epic with perfect item tracking and enough trauma arcs to make GRRM blush. The tools are there, the average redditor just refuses to get their hands dirty.

>>717400631
I want convenience of my browser. I tried some porn ai and couldn't force a character to say bigger dicks are better. In the end it shortcuts to something like "yes, your big dick is the best, but size doesn't matter", no idea what was training base for this, suicide lifeline?

>>717371795 (OP)
I’m not sure that AI could ever actually generate a legitimately fun game. Imagine any game with gameplay that you think is really fun, be it an arcade game, a multiplayer game, an action game, or whatever, and I would have to wonder if it could ever actually generate gameplay that is truly fun. How would it even conceptualize that?

>>717390727
>you are going to have shit you cannot believe

>>717400631
SillyTavern can't handle my autism anymore. I've already started developing my own frontend client specifically for handling text based sandbox RPGs.

>>717400325
>10B in ARR
yep
>but still aren't profitable
where proof

>>717400937
>train AI on fun game
>it makes fun game

>>717401151
>teach anon to get aroused to pits
>it makes cum

I merely came to make the observation that they have been pushing women as the foreman and women as the crane or heavy machine operator a lot recently. Keep seeing both of those things in media constantly

>>717400631
Imagine wasting your precious time reading 200k words of AI slop. I don't read crap put out by mediocre authors and I surely won't make exceptions for AI.

>>717371795 (OP)
Paint: *dries*
AI enthusiasts: >this gameplay FIRE

>>717401634
post your game

ai will not make you rich. ai will not make you successful. ai won't even make you stand out.
when supply if infinite at the click of a button, demand doesn't exist.
saars are hurtling towards a world without value.

>>717372056
1-2 years ago we were making fun of Will Smith clumsily eating pasta and now people are scared and getting scammed by deepfakes.

>>717399084
If he was kinder and mentored new generations better, he wouldn't have been forced out of retirement. He could have prevented this.

>>717399983
>fucking nft monkey playermodel with default walking animations
When will it cease to be slop

>>717374547
It's meant for investors, not customers.

>>717372056
That's exactly what they want to sell to big companies. All this AI shit has been the biggest scam while at the same time it censors nsfw content which is the only good use for AI besides meme renders.

>AI games become a thing
>now you just need a GPU with 512TB of Vram to run it or rent a amazon server and play it by the cloud™

>>717402126
>infinite supply at the click of a button
you luddites make the future sound so bright

>>717397079
Come back when you can fully recreate a real game instead of these unity assets any random nigger can make in a day

>>717402265
hey man i wish i had a better demo to link but the nft guy was the only person to actually implement it properly

>>717402612
enter the ZEUS BOLT
>The most powerful — Zeus 4c26-256 — implementation integrates four processing units, four I/O chiplets, 256 GB LPDDR5X and up to 2 TB of DDR5

>>717403118
>by the low low price a million fucking dollars

>>717403352
its actually cheap as fuck

can you stop putting trillions into whatever the fuck purpose models and upgrade image gen already, we've been stuck at 1024px for like 3 years almost.

>>717403446
doesn't the gpt imagegen do 4k now?

>>717398220
>a third of a watt BIG DEAL!

>>717403485
So? I ain't paying for that electricity wagie.

>>717403482
who knows, we'll never see the inside of it. I meant open source though. yeah I know who's gonna invest in something to give it away for free I'm just whining.

>>717395070
Maybe I should buy a VR headset in advance...

>>717380078
You can paint a wall

>>717403485
gamers worldwide use more energy than all ai
lets ban gamers

>>717389908
You can stop trying to guerilla market your faggot vtuber anytime, avatarfag

>>717390727
>2 more weeks!
>just keep investing in our company!

>>717403118
>>717403352
>>717403429
This is the guy developing it, also those specs still haven't been put to the test.

Make of this what you will

>>717403583
make it yourself then
>>717397464
did you not see genie 2?
it released in december and was basically useless
this is unironically 100x better in less than a year

>>717403587
The future is now!

>>717403646
yeah i know
it might actually not be that good for ai either way since its focusing on cgi
the expandable vram might be fucking amazing

could be a scam, who knows, i am not an investor but i'll buy one if the specs are real

>>717403646
>indian
okay i am a bit more skeptical now

>>717403646
>finally a pajeet does something useful
inb4 it's a scam

>>717403587
>>717403684
Amazing leaps in technology, we can now generate a world to press w and watch paint dry

>>717403650
No one cared about earlier VEOs either, they were useless tech demos. then VEO 3 came out and people started losing their jobs.

>>717397079
what about this? >>717403825
or the fact you can prompt in things mid session

>>717403863
are these real time? what kind of computer runs this?

something i have realized recently after discussing/debating ai things with anons
most don't actually watch the videos/demos posted
they just make shit up, literally hallucinating
>it can't do X
>X is clearly done in the video
>yeah well it doesn't do Y
>what Y was also in the video??
>JEET SAAR JEET JEET JEW
its tiring

>>717403949
Google has like 1 bajillion gpus, that's what's running this. Imagine the vrrrrrrrrrr trying to run it at home lmao.

>>717403882
I think they mentioned some fairly crazy caveats or I saw so in another video.
Call me when they add interaction beyond opening doors and painting walls

Looks blurry, won't buy
simple as

>>717403986
Instead of being cynical about it why don't you imagine what people could do with technology like this? It obviously has huge potential for video games.

>>717403949
>are these real time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDKhUknuQDg
yes
720p 24fps
probably takes at least one h200
so if released you might be able to play for a few bucks an hour to tens of bucks an hour

>>717403967
>both LLMs and /v/ users make shit up and hallucinate, and there is 0 value to interacting with them
Maybe we're not so different after all

>>717403646
>>717403118
who's funding this guy to bring the GPU into reality, and is it energy efficient for the average man or even capable of running on a personal computer? this sounds a bit shady because I have never heard of this guy or company nor do I think they could outperform the biggest GPU manufacturers out of nowhere

Do people genuinely not realize that this is the same kind of shit that Google did with Gemini? Its a concept video, there's nothing actually done and it's pretty obvious they just ran a bunch of videos through Ai and edited them together, no anything playable

>>717404064
>he doesn't own a h200
ngmi

>>717404057
>Don't be cynical just be hype!
Nah

>>717404070
i have actually given up asking /g/ for any tech advice
i just use gemini now lmao
sad

>>717404123
it's literally unhealthy for you to be the way you are

>>717404064
is it just straight video generation or is it doing some wizardry under the hood? like generating a simplified 3d environment and then sending that to an img2video processor.

>>717404095
its custom designed for doing rendering tasks for big cgi/vfx/3d rendering
it won't really be something you play games with
but you might use it for ai

>>717404103
you can use it

>>717398473
>>717399046
It would be smart if it said instead
>Probability & Calculus

>>717404057
It looks like shit, so no, there's no potential

>>717404171
Chat is this real

>>717404057
That dog has a perforated asshole.

>>717404180
its more like a physics engine that can do visuals

Two more weeks!

>>717404242
you might be blind anon
>>717404261
yes

>>717396519
>So far AI has 0 ZERO 0 tangible ways to actually make money beyond being a novelty.
It has functions in aggregating data which is frankly already how it was used before it was called a novelty, for running simulations based on statistical data. I say this as a layman who doesn't know shit. It's just kind of common sense, there have been data models for a long time to simulate stuff.

"Generative AI" is a bit different but it's very useful for ultra quick drafting and I can tell you that my friends who started their own marketing firms are abusing the fuck out of it to make quick media for a buck.

>>717404180
it's a black box world model you can control like a video game

can these people focus on creating LLMs that can actually produce code to make games with instead of making bullshit like this that is obviously just a clip made with img2video?
>>717404103
its just another one of these

>>717404370
Is this loss?

This will only be used, if at all, in non violent, non porn games. What is there to be hyped about? Wowie zowie I can skateboard down the main road in a city in feudal Japan! Hecking reddit wholesome seal award worthy, am I right chat?
...chat?

>>717404312
see
>>717404330
>>717404373
its not img2video
the visuals just have the same style since that was most of the training data

>>717371795 (OP)
Still a few decades away. Dont be a psuedointellectual redditor falling for buzzwords thinking were going to see this in like 2 years lmao

>>717404407
you are very short sighted anon
>>717404421
>decades
anon this was less than a year ago >>717404330

>>717404057
Why is it's asshole so big

>>717404407
>This will only be used, if at all, in non violent, non porn games.
you naive fool
this is the future of porn

okay but hows the gameplay? this AI shit is like soccer but you give every player their own ball. like if theres no rules to anything it's not a game it's a sandbox.

>>717404460
And yet we aren’t even an inch closer to practical application of this technology in game dev.

>>717404463
he represents the assblasted luddites

>>717403646
>if it sounds too good to be true etc

>>717404370
when i'm going to be able to look down and see big titties

>>717404373
you will never make your own games, you will be forced to "play" the gemini cloud walking sim generator

>>717404057
Could you tell me why the dog starts moving at 16 seconds despite none of the fake inputs being pressed? It's almost as if the whole thing is a pre-rendered video clip where they said, "a dog walks along the beach, forward, then right, and then the camera pans to one side and it keeps moving forward" or something, and then added fake inputs as an overlay to pretend they were controlling it.

>>717404557
These kinds of models will eventually be able to make video games for you.

>>717404785
look at the right side of the screen. there's a camera rotation being pressed

>>717404792
>try to prompt a game using Gemini where I go around town fucking women
>prompt blocked

Are there any vintage models available? I think in 20 years time they could be quite valuable to history.

>>717404835
Why would CAMERA rotation move the dog? It doesn't do it when the camera rotates left.

>>717404884
How do you move your dogs?

>>717404861
Yes and huggingface just purged like 15TB of models lol.
Something like animatediff will probably be kino in the future, and I doubt anyone is backing that shit up.

>>717404792
No, they won't. LLMs are a technological dead end, you could hook up every GPU in the world and build another few hundred datacenters, you would still not have the capacity to run anything approaching an AGI, which is what you'd need to generate a game in real time. Intelligence.

>>717404978
>Yes and huggingface just purged like 15TB of models lol.
wait what? what models

>>717404057
>AIfags genuinely think this is real and not a trick to excite boomer investors

>>717405012
You're retarded I'm afraid.

>>717405039
I don't know the specifics. From an archiveautist discord:
>HuggingFace has wiped out 16TB+ worth of models across 200+ repos and they're still going. We knew this day would come, but honestly thought we'd be fully torrent-based by now.
>Since we used HF as our primary storage, a lot of our links are dead now.

>>717375325
Why do people say this, it's not even true to genie lore

>>717404373
People hyping up realtime AI games when Gemini still doesn't know how to play truth or dare

>>717405062
You've been able to play with these for over a year... What, because it's 720p now it's fake?

>>717371795 (OP)
Why don't google just train an LLM to produce code for games instead of whatever this is since that would actually be useful for gamers? This looks like a waste of energy

>>717402192
This.
He can bitch and moan about anime and entertainment all he wants, how many people did he pass his knowledge onto?

>>717405115
calm down ranjeet

>>717405148
Because that would actually be useful instead of just flashy gimmicks for investors.

>>717404057
>why don't you imagine what people could do with technology like this?
People who have the passion to make games, already making them. People who wait for some miracle will never make them.

>>717405148
because they are smarter than you and are working on more important things

>>717405257
>no one will ever use new tools
oh I see. it's because you're retarded.

>>717405148
Because the whole thing is one big investor scam bubble, and eventually it'll pop. You can't make things that work, because that's not possible.

>>717405267
>t. retard

>>717371795 (OP)
This must be really revolutionary if walking simulators are all you care about.

>>717405148
It's so that they don't have to actually spend money on training more LLMs and can just scam the cattle investors with a pre-rendered video. Indians are known to be exceptional with their trickery

>>717405310
>You see, I can't draw without using 2k$ cintiq

>>717405432
>seething poorfag

>>717405635
>fuming talentlet

>>717405668
>obvious projection

>>717405701
I make 10k a month from patreon and you dont btw

the absolute state

Make gaming even more shit and souless?

>>717405148
>>717405257
this... dont question the intellect of brahmin bloody catpost bitch

>>717371795 (OP)
i hate the future

This idea of generating a game from scratch seems a distraction from the things that AI could reasonably do in the future for game dev which is mostly speeding up specific tasks. Games are going to still be made largely by people who make games professionally in the near future. If we actually get to the point where AI can one-shot an entire complex game from scratch and not just flash game clones or walking around empty environmentss, we have much bigger things to worry about.

>>717371795 (OP)
I love the future.

>>717405257
Based. AIjeets will never recover from this.

Yeah, I also want to play games that pan out like a hangover dream and impart a profound existential horror upon each frame. that's exactly my kind of shit

>>717405885
>we have much bigger things to worry about.
yeah, like having fun

how terrible

>>717389689
hugobros, we are so back.

>>717405936
If an AI can do a complex task with long time horizons like video game development, that means most white collar jobs are under threat of being automated.

Call me when AI and AIbros figure out how to make a GOOD game, not quickly assembled shovelware.

>>717405885
AI should be used for auxiliary content like chatting with random NPCs and stuff. these AI graphics just prove brainlets only respond to visual stimulus and cannot imagine abstract things.

>>717406051
oh no, the threat of not having to work to live

>>717406082
these people have no soul, maybe they can feed it novels from specific authors and have it come up with soul, idk it's very disgusting

>>717390727
>As a guy who develops new AI models
Rajeesh...

>>717406117
How did you get so fucked up that you care about AI generated NPC text more than graphics? Seriously, what kind of autism is this?

>>717406082
here you go, luddite

>>717406117
I mean this is pretty obvious. Just look at how they creamed themselves over that AI generated sprite graphics fantasy shit and just keep spamming "OMG SAAR IMAGINE IF SOMEONE MAKES A GAME LIKE THIS IT WOULD BE A GAME EVERYONE DREAMS OF SAARS!!!" then when trying to describe this "dream game" it always boils down to "open world slop".

>>717406180
sovl

>>717406179
>Why do you care about one of the immersive aspects of a videogame? You should only care about the graphics!
Tell me you play consoleslop only without telling me

>>717405148
they have already
llms are trained on literally ALL code that is available

>>717406347
baffling

>>717404057
For /v/, AI is the new Stadia, they want it to fail, but this time it won't happen

>>717397079
I dont understand what I am looking at. I am pro ai and I am making a game, but these images and videos dont do a good job to explain how each thing is made. for example, was this all proompted? how much did it cost to create? how many cycles? how much dev time? so far all they have is a b footage reel that says nothing. I can buy a premade asset flop and dump something like this out in minutes too. it only counts if it can make assets that fit my game.

>>717371795 (OP)
>Google Maps, but also game!

>>717406379
NTA but why do they usually produce nonsense then? It's nice for producing simple snippets of code and fixing some bugs I must admit, but go beyond that, it starts hallucinating like crazy. I think they should train the LLMs more to smooth out their issues with code.
I use Claude btw

>>717398473
why would I? do you think this is some kind of own? there are hundreds of better owns itt let alone the board archive.

>>717406459
It's an AI model that can turn a screenshot into an interactive world.

>walking simulations
Wake me up if it can implement actual mechanics

>>717406117
>AI should be used for auxiliary content like chatting with random NPCs and stuff.
I have a problem with this. Let's pretend we have isolated AI model trained exclusively on game universe without real world interference. What's actually the point? So you can ask anything? So NPCs now are all knowing masterminds? So you can ask about any quests? This will eliminate the entire point of quest, it's not a quest anymore if everyone knows how to solve it. So you can tell NPCs "suck my dick" and see it reacts to it? Yeah, cool, very interesting. Removing quest markers and forcing you to walk around town speaking with everyone? So just like Morrowind? You don't need AI for this. Making them encyclopedia vomit like in Pillars of Eternity. You can have this shit without an AI, plus it will remove the point of books in game world. I literally see no uses for AI conversations. I swear, I'm trying to think of one, but I just can't.

>>717406537
Can't help but notice how you didn't reply to any of the questions, Kali will not be happy with you sir

>>717406584
I answered your question.

>>717401037
will you share it? thats the main thing I want it for.

>>717406140
UBI will never take off

>>717403646
hes brown so it doesnt exist.

>>717406140
And how do you expect to live without work, pajeet?

>>717405885
>over 9000 AIslop games releasing daily on steam
imagine

>>717404057
because you aren't actually showing us information on how these assets where generated, and the financial cost of that? are you brain damaged jeetjew? I have a budget, I have time, I have a limited ammount of cognitive thought. I need to balance all those things to understand how this tool was used to create these things and how much work they take to incorporate into an engine.

>>717406730
>calling someone else braindead when you're a literal drooling retard that doesn't understand what he's looking at
holy kek

>>717406140
Realistically, you'd still have to go to work for the first few decades to maintain AI until they are able to maintain themselves. Then the government will either enact UBI or give you some fake job to keep yourself busy with (the latter being the more likely option).

>>717404526
>>717404485
>Random text and no actual interactivity
not a good look

>I make a model from scratch on blender
>SOVL
>I ask AI to make a model and change every detail to my liking
>soulless
Assuming both models are identical, and both came from my imagination, I can't see how using AI is wrong in this context, it feels like the electronic music debate again

>>717406780
it's incredible how retarded the average /v/ poster is

>>717371795 (OP)
Why is the movement in these AI videogame videos always so sluggish?

>>717406537
so what? what do I do afterwards? I have dialogue, I have npcs, I have combat mechanics, that shit cant be handled by something making a disposable empty level from a screenshot I would have presumably only gotten by at BEST paying an artist to make exactly what I wanted or at WORST making the entire level in unreal beforehand.

>>717406571
Have you thought about games where you have party members. and you could like, talk to these party members and they could actually give unique responses based on the context and not just repeat the same handful of phrases indefinitely. Imagine a game like Rainbow six or fucking Gears of war or whatever, where your teammates react dynamically to shit that happens around them, report sightings accurately, warn when enemy tries to circle around you, and so on. like you're playing with real people, but they're actually focused and competent and don't want to tell you about some dumb shit their co-worker said today while winging it?

>>717396198
I use Chatgpt extensively because you kimda have to. Search engines aren't worth shit anymore. Yandex is ok SOMETIMES but not always. All the rest is such shit.
My normie brother was swearing
"no you just have to look further into the pages, it's more in the back"
It's not. It's all shit all the way down.

>>717406763
>you're a drooling retard
saars do you really think insulting your customer base is a good look for your company?

>>717406791
I wish they made an AI that could unwrap uvs intelligently, or retopologize meshes so that you won't have to redo it all by hand anyway

>>717406571
AGI is the future of NPCs. Imagine walking into a random tavern and finding half a dozen randomly generated adventurers who can be your best buddy or an annoying rival you beat to death, with their own motivations that tie in with your main quest. Stories generated on the fly based on your actions, with a game master taking intelligent responses.

Obviously, LLM slop can't do any of this, we're still 50+ years away from anything approaching intellect in games.

>>717406830
think about it

>>717406509
use models with larger context

>>717406805
its increadibly how stupid the average jeet is. you can tell them you want AI products and you will be insulted to your face that you want to know things like how expensive it is, how quick it is, how easy it is, what the output looks like.

>guys what's your business plan
>shut up we're GENERAAAAATING
>um, I just really want to know the financials behind it and---
>YOU ARE RETARDED
Why are AI proselytes like this

>>717371795 (OP)
woooooooooooooooow a portal thats so crazy, there totally wasnt a company that made an ENTIRE game about those in 2007

>>717371795 (OP)
>tiktok video games
Anon, not everyone here is younger than 9 like you. Some of us are at least 10.

The future of games is always online, streaming only, subscription based walking sims. Grim.

>>717405148
they have those. rosebud ai has it. it generates a lot of code but basically ignores you and its quite expensive to run. with 3 prompts I couldn't even get anything more complex than a premade asset I can buy for like 20-30 dollars that will do almost all of the ground work I need. the real thing I want is an AI agent that can help me work in my dev environment, but the problem is that I want it to run locally. I dont even care if I had to pay for a subscription I just dont want to get proompt blocked.

>>717371795 (OP)
Show me something with interesting mechanics instead of an endless stream of nebulous open world sandboxes.

>>717406949
>comes in to thread
>moans about something which has nothing to do with thread

>>717406571
You can construct personality simulations using LLM pipelines such that knowledge between them is hidden. Simulating subconscious, mood, desire systems completely separate from conscious actions or reflexes. Just abstract the input of the system into sensations and define allowable outputs and let it be swayed in ways it itself can't describe.
Just don't torture it please.

>>717406990
>t. cant rotate an apple in his head

>>717406990
Oh so you are saying Genie 3 can run on my local hardware without an internet connection?

>>717406986
if you're being honest the painting is cool

>>717406791
>both came from my imagination
They didn't. Even if you insist that you changed every facet of the AI one, you still had a base to work from that will color the output. It's like how everything in palworld just looks like a crap bootleg pokemon.

I've never heard anyone complain about electronic music. It lowers the barrier to entry in terms of practice, sure, you can just click the arp button. But you lose on the fly fluidity for skipping all the practice, it's a trade-off.

the game worlds the pov moves through.... havelegit more soul than modern (non-indie) games. I wouldreally like to walk through some of these worlds to discover shit. i don't know why,but moving though these worlds gives me more of a sense of adventure than modern AAAAAA games.

>>717389689
Where can I play it?

>>717407104
>I've never heard anyone complain about electronic music.
zoomer alert

>>717407128
i agree sir

>>717406837
>and you could like, talk to these party members and they could actually give unique responses based on the context and not just repeat the same handful of phrases indefinitely
The main problem here, party members are unique, and they should response with a set character, style and tone, unique to them. You will train individual models for each one of them?
>Imagine a game like Rainbow six or fucking Gears of war or whatever, where your teammates react dynamically to shit that happens around them, report sightings accurately, warn when enemy tries to circle around you, and so on.
They already do it though? That doesn't require AI. If anything, characters in such games should speak less, not more. I'm thinking exclusively about big RPG games here, that's the only genre with a POSSIBILITY for AI to have a spotlight. I still don't see it, though.
>>>717406875
>Imagine walking into a random tavern and finding half a dozen randomly generated adventurers who can be your best buddy or an annoying rival you beat to death, with their own motivations that tie in with your main quest.
First, why do I want randomly generated NPCs? That comes with insane amount of potential problems. Boring storylines. Uninteresting and ugly characters. Even on basic level you might have a problem with some quest and never find a solution online, because you are the only one with such problem.
>with their own motivations that tie in with your main quest
So just like we have now? Isn't the point of AI to have NPCs not revolving around PC, but living their lives? Because if it's not, then there is justifying having AI at all.
>>717407032
So I need to draw lines for every npcs? Or the group? So every bandit is a bandit with strict rules? What if I want one bandit to not be like others?
All of this just makes zero sense to utilize AI, at this point you just replace writer with an AI and absolutely nothing else.

>>717372042
Promptable events will take a decade to not be shit, but I've been dreaming of ai to take Dark Souls 1 and make the game twice as big with new zones. That always struck me as feasible. That will come after promptable events though.

>>717405428
Jews will keep it afloat one way or another to say op top and force out all and any real developers that they do not control. Causing a thousand years of brain dead slop, regressing humanity into ooga booga, since no thinking will be required anymore.

>>717407057
I can't deny that this all looks pretty impressive from a tech perspective but there's nothing compelling about "you slowly walk forward in a fantasy world... whoa...". I can do that already and there's actually shit to do.

Sure, that'll probably change in the future (and probably sooner than anyone expects) but it's rather telling that the priority of these "AI games" is to provide an insipid spectacle rather than actually develop any kind of compelling experience.

Oh right, and the fact that none of this is actually feasible on consumer electronics.

>>717404330
woah! it even emulates shitty cube mapped reflections!! The future is now!

>>717407104
>I've never heard anyone complain about electronic music
Never heard about DJs not being real musicians for just "pressing buttons" or how programming MIDl instead of playing a keyboard doesn't require talent?

I'm certain aimless waking nightmare simulators will be the next big thing in gaming after similar technological success stories such the metaverse, blockchain gaming and VR.

>>717407350
it's too annoying replying to you subhumans

>>717407273
Ah, I see you actually have zero understanding. Learn how these systems work first before coming to conclusions.

>>717407371
DJs aren't real musicians. And programming MIDI requires less effort than learning an instrument.

>>717407273
>They already do it though? That doesn't require AI. If anything, characters in such games should speak less, not more. I'm thinking exclusively about big RPG games here, that's the only genre with a POSSIBILITY for AI to have a spotlight. I still don't see it, though.
NTA, but I’ll actually push back on this a bit. There’s currently no modern video game AI that can replicate human behavior. Either you make it too perfect, you make it incompetent, or you make it not abide by the same rule as the players. For instance, people often compliment the AI in ready or not, but the AI is actually garbage when you ignore the fact that the bots have inhuman reaction speed and significantly more health than players. I don’t think it’s feasible, but the idea of human like teammates would actually be a cool application of AI.

SAARS

What if I want to play a curated experience made by a human bean and not open world sloppa #37521 where ANYTHING CAN AND FREQUENTLY DOES HAPPEN LMAO

>>717407503
Well, you can explain it here and tell me, how exactly AI will give us something we can't have now.

What is AI comparable to in terms of skill? I heard people complain in the past that digital drawing was not as skilled as traditional drawings when they were becoming popular, but it's pretty much the same thing.

I think using AI is like trying to make a game using free assets and templates from Unity or UE, and if you are cautious, you will be able to make a game that looks and plays great despite using those assets but with alot less work

>>717407445
NFTs will make a comeback. Invest in Earth 2. Wagmi.

>>717379818
Even before AI, well-sculpted realistic-looking landmasses weren't done by hand.
You would coarsely define a few mountainous and valley areas, define a few river sources, define sea level, and then leave a few computational simulations running for some time to cook out the details based on water eroding land, a weather model setting up wind sheer to erode mountains and drop precipitation, and the moisture levels further defining out the fertile and arid areas with natural looking transitions.

And that technique STILL works better than AI.

should have done the backrooms.

>>717407273
>First, why do I want randomly generated NPCs?
You're not getting it. In the AGI game, "randomly generated" means interesting, it's a DnD gamemaster coming up with ideas on the fly, not generating a random orc with blue skin and a massive head for no reason.

>you might have a problem with some quest and never find a solution online,
Again, the game is intelligently generated. The difficulty is what you allow for, if you hate getting stuck on puzzles then the GM will slowly give you more and more hints until it outright tells you the solution if you're a shitter. It's a tailor made experience where you're allowed to treat the world like a true sandbox.

>>717407624
using a calculator

simple people can get simple math results
people with some math education can get more complex math results

>>717407494
>buttmad because of a guy calmly asking reasonable questions
why are AIjeets like this?

>>717407721
>The difficulty is what you allow for, if you hate getting stuck on puzzles then the GM will slowly give you more and more hints until it outright tells you the solution if you're a shitter.
This sounds fucking abysmal. That's like fucking autolevel in rpg, but on entire game scale, what the fuck, what's the point.

>>717407624
>it's pretty much the same thing.
No it’s not and it never will be. Drawing of any kind comes from within the mind. You take an image in your head and put it on your canvas. Prompting art is simply not that. You are using the AI to approximate an image in your head, but it will never be the image in your head. It is the creation of a machine that’s only tangentially related to your own ideas.

>>717407624
It's comparable to asking your senile grandpa to do everything for you instead.

Sure, maybe he'll do a good job, or maybe he'll fix your car by shitting in your gastank. You don't learn anything, you don't grow or improve, you don't really have much of an input into the final product at all, but hey, at least you didn't have to put in any effort! Thanks grandpa.

You COULD ask grandpa to do one thing, like make a box for your game, and then ask him to make 500 boxes and pick the one you like most. You could then do that for everything in the game. But then your game is just going to look like any other asset flip, because everyone else has their own grandpa, and they're doing the same thing, only they're picking the first option and you're picking the 500th. When both are random, both games look the same at first glance.

>>717407721
>"randomly generated" means interesting,
jeets really are fucking clueless

>>717407820
for what you're saying to be true would imply that all artists can perfectly illustrate the image in their mind, when 99.9999999999999999% of them cannot even come close to doing this

you're wrong and you're not an artist, you have no idea what it means to draw.

>>717407820
I was talking about people who draw on their IPads, Anon. Read the post slowly next time

>>717407724
>>717407624
Calculators and tools dont randomly start hallucinating and start spitting completely wrong results

>>717407797
Again, it's adjustable. If you prefer working out the sphinx riddles yourself, the GM won't give you any help, just enough of a hint that it thinks you might eventually figure it out. You're responsible for the buttons you press.

>>717372627
Nah, world memory is just as important of not more so. I'm confident graphically it'll get there, animations will only get better. It's this back end shit that needs to be sold to people. The fact it won't hallucinate or that it WILL keep a memory.

>>717407870
I'm not talking about LLM scam slop here, this whole industry is a massive investment bubble waiting to collapse. I'm talking about actual intelligent design by true AGI. Of course, in a few years the techbros will start calling their new LLMs "AGIs " to pretend they're at that point, and we'll all have to come up with a new name to differentiate between tech scams and true AI, like how VR is now separate from full dive due to the first being misused to sell crappy head mounted displays.

>>717397079
AI forgot about the other door

>>717407624
>but it's pretty much the same thing
No. Drawing is the core skill, both traditional and digital uses it, no doubt. However, both requires additional auxiliary skills, so you can't just hop from one to one without prior experience and start drawing flawlessly. AI is not comparable, there is no core skill about it. Pressing button and shitting prompt is not a core skill. It's basic skill of working on PC, that's why AI so popular and that's why AIdiots are so mad, when you refuse to call them artists.

>>717408002
The truth is, all you need is language.

>>717407896
>I heard people complain in the past that digital drawing was not as skilled as traditional drawings when they were becoming popular but it's pretty much the same thing.
This your post? It’s hard to decipher something filled with so many errors. Why don’t you learn how to english first before posting next time?

>>717408058
To convince low IQ jeets and braindead investors, maybe. Real people require intellect, and you're not getting that out of an LLM.

All these years later and I still haven't heard a single valid argument for why AI is supposed to "save gaming".

>>717408095
Your post is also riddled with errors.

>>717408197
I'll be completely level with you senpai
I don't think most people have intellect to require any

>Hundreds of hours of fully voiced dialogues.
>Procedural generated worlds.
>Advanced texture compression models.
>Intelligent enemy AI with real time decision making.
Just a few things off the top of my head.

someone generate a game about flying a commercial airliner centered in NY

>>717406179
why would I need an AI to draw graphics for me when my brain already interprets the abstraction of video game 3d graphics and transforms them into pseudo realism?

>>717408238
I don't disagree, most "people" are literal flesh automatons with no inner thoughts. But still, I'm talking about non-hylics here when I say people.

>>717408314
>Hundreds of hours of fully voiced dialogues.
You don't need AI for that.
>Procedural generated worlds.
Ew.
>Advanced texture compression models.
You don't need AI for that.
>Intelligent enemy AI with real time decision making.
You don't need AI for that.

>>717408221
Publishers can fire the western staff and keep a couple of "prompt engineer" pajeets to cobble together derivative asset flips. Investors love the idea because they don't make or play games.

>>717404792
That video was made is Houdini, not AI.

>>717408095

"Is this your post? It's difficult to understand because it's full of errors. Perhaps you should learn proper English before posting next time."

>>717403485
Watthours are not watts.

Watthours are a measure of energy, i.e. joules.
0.34 watthours ~= 0.000094 wattseconds == 0.000094 joules per query.

The global gaming market's audience is currently at around 2.2bn users.
Let's be generous and say for AI-driven gaming they will *only* query once per second.
That's approx. 94 kJ every second. I.e. 94kW.

>>717371795 (OP)
>pozzed kike ai
i sleep

>>717371795 (OP)
more shovelwares i'll never buy it is then.

>>717408391
If anything the prompt jeets get the rest of the jeets fired, because they're all hired to poorly make garbage background assets nobody cares about.

It's all cost cutting though, and it only ever produces less coherent games.

>>717374547
>>"Research prototype"
>As usual, no gameplay, no hype.
BINGO

>>717408197
I don't mean language as in "chatting" but as a method of encoding higher-order abstract entities like relations and patterns.

>>717408226
Alright, anon. Since you’re very dense and clearly lack a solid grasp of the English language, I’ll explain the main issue (there are other issues, but that’s not the point). When you used the pronoun “it’s,” you failed to establish what noun you were actually referring to. This means that “it’s” could refer to two different things in this context. Firstly, it could mean that you think that digital art is the same thing as classical art, which is what I think you meant. Secondly, it could mean that you think that the dismissal of AI art is the same as the dismissal of digital art. This is why you can’t just use random pronouns out of nowhere. This was also not helped along by your bizarre writing style and your grammatical errors.

I think most people complaining about AI don't even understand it.

>>717408226
And just to be clear, the issue isn’t your grammar itself, it’s that you’re use of pronouns is incorrect. The purpose of language is to communicate idea’s properly. You can have all the bad grammar you like, but you need to write with clarity.

>>717408629
literally this >>717403967
at most they watch the video for 3 seconds then close it

>>717408539
>>717408654
I expected you to just call me a retard and move on but instead you took the time to educate me on what the problem was with my post. Thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecRFKfNy-Ms
What a time to be alive!

>>717397464
>At the current rate?
Name on tech field that moved at a linear field at any point in its development.
There's no such thing as 'at current rate' in computer and software engineering. Current rate will seem like snail's pace in hindsight two years from and and like a standstill five years from now.

>>717408441
>That's approx. 94 kJ every second. I.e. 94kW.
so basically nothing
even if you times that by 30 its still nothing

>>717408780
>>717408629
The funniest part about this is that they can literally ask AI to help them understand it better but they're too mentally retarded to even do that.

>>717408789
Yeah, sorry if my first post came off as combative.

so, how long until it goes into the mass grave?

I still find it funny how anti AI fags say AI reached it's limit, they been saying this since will smith eating eldritch noodles

>>717408946
I didn't care much about the tone of your post since I don't really take posts online seriously, but I was pretty surprised that you did that since It's 4chan out of all places. I am a ESL so I am not really great with my English

>>717408975
Google's AI stuff builds on top of each other. I'm pretty sure they'll achieve AGI first.

>>717409030
I still find it funny how AI jeets insist that the growth will continue exponentially.

Will it get better? Sure. Will it ever get good? No, it's asymptotic.

>>717408629
The feeling is mutual because AI evangelists completely fail to sell people (that aren't retarded monkeys reacting to stimuli alone) on this shit.

>>717408842
Yup. It's pretty modest all things considered.
The REAL footprint problem is the training of the AI models, which runs continuously and uses an undisclosed amount of power. Ofcourse AI-vendors are not going to disclose THAT number. They're just going to give you the favorable number for querying against an already trained model -- trying to get you to forget about that other process running continuously in the background as well.

And more than power, consider also WATER.
The data centers running this stuff are water-cooled. And they take up a considerable portion of drinking water.

>>717404057
>camera rotate button is pressed
>no movement buttons are pressed
>dog starts moving right
huh??
>>717409061
personally i mass dump my points into STR or DEX instead of AGI

>>717409109
case in point

>>717408795
>it's not even showing googles
lol AI moves so fast

>artfags seething
kek, love these threads

>>717409127
one training is obviously worth it
train once, get an amazing model

two
they use fuck all water
someone posted the numbers before and illegal migrants in texas use 1000 times the water the datacenters do

As if we don't already have enough shitty walking sim on the market. Now we're gonna have to deal with Kojima-wannabe producing slops that you have to sort through on Steam.

>>717409239
I take a schizo kojambo walking sim over AAA slop any day

>>717409225
>t.

>>717371795 (OP)
Ok you've got world memory in these short clips, how quickly does that fill up ram, or spew over into your hard drive how long will even that last

>>717409061
>I'm pretty sure they'll achieve AGI first.
The technologies used with LLMs literally cannot achieve AGI. They can interpolate between existing data in the training set in complex ways, but they cannot actually extrapolate and combine data in new and meaningful ways. They can correlate, but they cannot infer. This is a key aspect of the entire technology. It doesn't 'think' and it never will.
You can toss more and more hardware at it, giving it more token memory and more processing power to run more advanced interpolation mechanics to refine its results more carefully - and that may make it SEEM like it's actually intelligent. But no - it's still not. Little more than a next-generation Mechanical Turk.

>re-generates the world when you turn around
at that point why wouldn't you just generate the world and save it

you can imagine yourself as a brahmin but you'll always be a dalit and no ai is going to change that you jeet

>>717409340
Shut the fuck up your retard.

>>717409281
is this why AIfags who specifically target artists are so vindicative? did they all get cucked by true creatives in grade school?

>>717404057
The people attacking this feel extremely threatened by it. You're not going to reach them, they're just going to get fucked over and forced to cope with that until they get over it.

>>717409340
>and that may make it SEEM like it's actually intelligent. But no - it's still not.
isnt that much safer than an actual AI? what's the problem here? oh no the video game AI wasnt actually AI but a very intelligent program that's almost AI.

>>717409340
>t. tech illiterate

>>717409518
>very intelligent program
But it isn't intelligent. It can be "good enough" to fool retards, but it will never cross the threshold for actual reasoning capability, and can therefore never produce anything of worth.

>>717409518
I wager even the gimped AI he is complaining about is smarter than 70% of the world population

>>717408629
>>717408780
Like how AI shills can only talk in eye-catching marketing pitches and then suffer utter meltdowns when someone asks for more precise information?

>>717409518
>>717409553
>>717409614
>>717409437

Indians furiously bob their heads thinking about how they'll scam with this.

>>717409614
I mean AI for sure is smarter than indians, but that's a low bar.

>>717409608
> It can be "good enough" to fool retards, but it will never cross the threshold for actual reasoning capability, and can therefore never produce anything of worth.
we are talking about video game implementation not academics. everything in video games is designed to "fool retards" in case you havent noticed. from graphics to quest design, it's all made to seem bigger and more complex than they really are. why should the AI be perfect if it doesnt have to be?

>>717409659
>5g tower transmit covid

>>717409716
you are arguing with someone who pretends to understand how the technology work using fancy big words but is actually just seething at it's existence, he should become a gamedev streamer I heard it suits him

>>717409608
>But it isn't intelligent. It can be "good enough" to fool retards, but it will never cross the threshold for actual reasoning capability, and can therefore never produce anything of worth.
anon?
https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/ai-solves-imo-problems-at-silver-medal-level/
https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/advanced-version-of-gemini-with-deep-think-officially-achieves-gold-medal-standard-at-the-international-mathematical-olympiad/

it went from silver to gold in a year

https://apsmo.edu.au/maths-resources/sample-questions/
here are some previous year questions, if you can get gold without outside assistance i will concede forever that ai is useless

What AI bros think will happen:
>cumpooper, generate me a based high quality game
>genaratin
>thank you cumpooper we are now rich
What will(already is lol) actually happen:
>if we force our engineers to use slopgen v.0001 to write their code faster we can probably fire like 25% of them while keeping the productivity
>shit, out code quality is in dumpster and scaling shit/fixing bugs takes ages but at least our operating cost is down, we can blame the quality drop on “unrealistic customer expectations”
>fuck, slopgen subscription price went up, we re back to the previous spendings, we need to cut costs now!
>if we force our engineers to use slopgen v.0002 to write their code faster we can probably fire like 25% of them while keeping the productivity
Always (((good))) in 5 years, never in 4

>>717409847
>https://apsmo.edu.au/maths-resources/sample-questions/
wrong link sorry
https://www.imo-official.org/problems.aspx

>>717409882
you made these same arguments in regards to art and music and AI does those perfectly now

>>717409490
This tech just doesn't look that promising when you break it down. It's video generation instead of real assets. How complex of a game can you make with a setup like that? These demos barely have any interactive components. How do you even program new mechanics like status effects and damage formulas?

>>717409907
(It doesn’t)

>>717409907
>AI does those perfectly now
You can't be serious, Raj

>>717409926
literally you can interact with any component

>>717409953
>>717409975
>seething artists

>artfags still seething they lost their furry commission money
kek lol lmao

>>717399084
is this the heckin wholesome japanese walt disney?

>>717409926
world models aren't just generating videos
world models generate everything including the physics
you can output them a in a billion different ways
including just outputting the assets like the tencent model does
>>717399983

They keep saying "Seething artists" but they're the ones seething the moment they're scrutinized
Don't ask questions, just hype!

>>717409980
I want my game experience to be the same as everyone else's when it comes down to basic mechanics and systems. I don't want to do that in an instance.

>>717410080
>I want my game experience to be the same as everyone else's
why? that sounds lame

>>717404921
Are you being obtuse? Camera moves left, dog stays still, camera moves right, dog turns right.
In both instances, none of the direction keys are pressed

>>717409995
I can’t draw for shit and my limit is paint stick drawings(pretty bad as well), 99.9999999% of (((ai generated))) art is worse than that.

>>717410042
Was the dog model a generated asset? What engine is this using?

>>717409847
>>717409897
>look up how hard imo questions are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6dVarRV61E
its over
this is genuinely smarter than 90% of the planet

>not only artists are seething but UE faggots too
lmao this thread is a goldmine

>>717410165
the model is the engine

also try this, its fun
https://huggingface.co/spaces/ilcve21/Sparc3D

>>717410189
>internet search can in fact search internet
>it is le smarter than 90% of the planet!!!
Lol

>>717410146
So the game can have proper balancing? A game will be pretty shit if all the stats are randomized every time you load it.

>>717410229
its not an internet search
AND all the questions are new each year and not shared before the test

>>717410229
resolving math problems is not internet search you troglodyte

>>717410228
I want to rip the assets to use in Unity or unreal. Is that possible?

It's been like 3 years since stable diffusion/chatgpt blew up and neither of those technologies have actually advanced in that time.

>>717410272
>>717410275
>grrr internet search is not internet search

>>717410338
yes they have

>>717410290
well we don't even have access to the model yet
so i can't tell you anon

>>717410189
you could solve this with wolframalpha like a decade ago. AI isnt that impressive.

>>717410343
we know you are an english drop out, don't need to keep outing yourself

>>717410343
its not an internet search moron
you can run them completely offline
>>717410362
anon that was the easiest question
go try and solve it with wolfram alpha right now

>>717408002
youre a jeet retard. I am pro AI.
Listen you fucking dumb jeet street shitter, people want to look at stuff like games because they are a form of communication. AI cant provide that. it cant have opinions. someone has to be the architect. and the moment it can has an opinion, it's probably going to glass us until the child rapes stop happening, not worry about whos making video games.

>>717410412
give up anon, they are either trolling(I hope) or so retarded they don't even know what math is

>>717410338
ChatGPT is good but ye local diffusion still fucking sucks.

>>717410376
>>717410412
>if I download relevant part of internet I can search it offline which makes it not an internet search

>>717409847
>if you can get gold without outside assistance i will concede forever that ai is useless
What a goalpost.

First, I don't think Deep Think got those results. Google really likes faking things.

But hey, let's say it did. It's still not that impressive. IMO is not a difficult contest, it's pre-university level, and barely advertised. It's the F1 of math competitions.

>>717371795 (OP)
Whoah a generic walking simulators!
So cool!!

>>717410361
I'm Phoneposting now so I can't try it but that sounds like it would be very difficult to modify game systems if it's a black box. Collaboration with other designers would also be a nightmare.

>>717410518
man i really hope you are trolling

>>717410468
3.5 on launch is where LLMs peaked. Now they just change the version number occasionally to trick their retard investors with hype while the actual quality gets worse.

>>717410546
>no, you are an idiot, you MUST respect my internet search or I will cry

>camera will never get better this is as good as it will get
>the color camera will never get better, this is as good as it will get
>the digital camera will never get better, this is as good as it will get
I am starting to think zoomers being born on the slop age playing fortnite since they were born to today fucked their brains to the point they don't believe technology progress

>>717410535
>First, I don't think Deep Think got those results. Google really likes faking things.
they did get the results and were proved too have.
the deep think model is one we don't have access too.
anon i am not joking when i say 90% of the world can not do these problems, even the easiest.

>>717371795 (OP)
I simply do not care. Modern AAA slop already feels like a completely different hobby than what I like, I'm not interested in an even more "modernized" version of it.

>>717410640
camera didn't replace paintings. AI wont replace traditional video games. there will be AAAAA AI slop for retards to enjoy and indie games that are still actual video games.

>>717410715
>camera didn't replace paintings
it absolutely killed 99% of painting jobs
painting portraits was a good job before the camera came along

>>717410715
>camera didn't replace paintings.
they mostly did actually

>>717410715
>incapable of realizing his own example goes against his argument

>>717410715
show me a single person who had a painting made of their family, then show me how many pics they posted in social media

>>717410765
>they mostly did actually
paintings werent produced at the same volume as pictures it wasnt really a replacement but more like an amendment. and with digital age taking pictures has evolved to such lengths every other second is captured in our daily lives. people still paint and theres merit to it even if it's "pointless".

>>717410867
before it was something you could make a job out of

>>717371795 (OP)
Are these actual 3D objects in a game world or is every frame generated by the AI? What happens if I'm walking in a room and I lose internet connection to the AI datacenter for 1 second? Can I still turn around and see objects that were there 1 second ago?

>>717410894
Wealthy people still get portraits I'm sure. It was always a privileged thing to commison art.

>>717410650
>anon i am not joking when i say 90% of the world can not do these problems, even the easiest.
I don't disagree with you, but 90% of the world is literally retarded and have a sub 120 IQ.

It's still a massive server farm that did worse than a 16 year old. Computers have been beating chess pros for literal decades, that doesn't mean they're smarter. It's the same thing with gimmicky math problems that have no real world use cases.

>>717410867
>>717411016
you are actually trying so hard to backpedal it's funny

>>717411017
ok but the same model that got gold can also diagnose your medical issue, file your taxes, write you python code, control a robot and everything else

>>717411017
you never seen a real math problem before so shut the fuck up you retard

>>717409453
Usually, if someone has a deep-seated grudge against a specific group of people, it's often a result of something that happened in their childhood, yes.

>>717411029
I'm not him. It's not accurate to say your average family was getting their portrait painted in the 1800s.

>>717410947
we don't know exactly
if its anything like tencents world model then it should be ok >>717399983

>>717411029
are you trying to argue that some coal miner in 1800s america had a portait of himself at his cabin?

>>717411091
>>717411115
are you trying to argue AI slop game isn't what 99% of people will play like this schizophrenic rant here >>717410715
nobody will give a shit about your indieshit with true real videogame on itchio

>>717371795 (OP)
AI is going to change the way I pay for games (from paying to not).

>>717411115
>>717411091
it wasn't that uncommon to get a cheap quick portrait made actually

>>717411249
>a cheap quick portrait
and you can hire a sketch artist to do that today too for very cheap. none of these jobs disappeared

>nigga hate AI so much he try to argue cameras didn't kill paintings
I am saving this thread for future read

>>717411029
if anything todays world feeds more artists than ever before, they are just making stuff for movies, television, games ect, like 3d modelers or digital painters, so no, cameras didn't kill anyone.

I dont think model trained on stolen gameplays will kill this job either

>>717411105
>if its anything like tencents world model then it should be ok >>717399983

Everyjeet singlerajeesh timesingh

>>717411286
>none of these jobs disappeared
spoiler
99.9% of those jobs disappeared

next you'll say that horses didn't get replaced by cars because some horses still exist

>>717411183
If you go by numbers most people are playing match 3 games or Roblox. I think people are too lazy to prompt their own games though. A lot will try it for the novelty but will get bored fast and return to friendslop

>>717371795 (OP)
It's always funny to see techbros fail to understand why video games are fun

>>717411325
>cameras didn't kill paintings
need to try harder than this to bait

>>717410640
20 years ago I thought the sky was the limit, and then for the past 20 years, everything has just gotten worse across the board. Processing power has barely increased, but programs are now written by third worlders so there's zero optimization because "everyone has multi core anyway", so everything runs worse.

25 years ago, I had a handheld computer that ran off a couple of AA batteries that lasted 10 hours and had instant on times because the OS was on a ROM chip. That was the standard at the time, my PDA ran off AAAs and lasted a month between charges, with a fold out keyboard. Now what do we have? Bloated phones that need a fucking keyboard that no longer plugs in, with batteries that are lucky to last a day. My first smartphone had a battery you could remove and replace, my current one has it glued in behind the screen. There has been no technological improvement, only stagnation and cost cutting.

>>717398623
>we used ai to analyse the players and decide to attack fir-
Threat meter. you've implemented a very costly threat meter.

>>717405148
It seems from their posts this stuff is being developed primarily to provide a basically limitless supply of rich environments to train AI agents in.

>>717411345
indians breath oxygen too
and drink water
better stop doing that

>>717411286
Go to any pier, zoo, or theme park and you'll find a caricature artist.

>>717411392
>graphics will never be better than this

>>717411351
>those 20 million horses in 1900 got replaced by 300 million cars and now theres only 10 million horses in united states!

>Anti AI schizos are so insane they have to argue technological advancements never happened
What the fuck are these posts.

>>717411398
they also shit in the river and I definitely wouldn't want to do that

>>717404057
>stops leaving footprints in the sand the moment the camera stops tilting towards it

>>717411390
digital painting is still painting, person who makes it is painter, or artist, or digital artist, yet you think ability to make photos with your phone makes them irrelevant

>>717411465
They did get better, until about 2007 when Crysis came out. It has now been almost twice as long as the difference between the release dates of Unreal and Crysis.

In those 18 years, where are the graphical improvements?

>>717411617
almost like even paintings had a technological change which is the whole fucking point of the argument

>>717409907
>AI art is still never used in actual products
>AI music is still never used in actual products
You see, unlike your unemployed ass, I am actually forced to interact with this trash every day because middle managers are 100% hype 0% skill ready to suck any dick if a c-suite sends them thumbsup emoji in slack, so I’ve had first-hand experience with generative models for like 2 years now and finding a single actually good idea that (((leverages ai))) is like finding a needle in a heap of shit because every retard only sees productivity increase in paying for AI subscription instead of paying for an engineer. On a good note, after almost 9 months of telling faggots to kill themselves I actually got my chatgpt reskin trained on confluence and repos and because I made my monkeys write both in-code and confluence documentation for shit they do, we now have a useful tool to help understand the issue and know who to ask for help or clarifications instead of another slopgen subscription to write code instead of you. Wholesome one fucking hundred.

>>AI art is still never used in actual products
(you)

>>717411747
bro ignored 99% of steam library

>>717411675
>almost like even paintings had a technological change which is the whole fucking point of the argument
the point was that an accurate depiction of reality wont replace art. AI generated realism wont replace traditional video games.

>>717411676
despite being trained on world finest art (and beeing able to reproduce results) best they can do is generate anime girls for porn and mobile games

>>717411784
Oh-a oh-a video killed the radio star

>>717411747
Yeah these luddites don't know shit
AI fucking won

>>717411784
yeah anon, same way videogames didn't pivot to story based/save games instead of arcade high score, surely videogames won't ever change

>>717396756
this scares the indie dev

>>717405267
>and are working on more important things

>>717412068
>alpha genome
>alpha evolve
>robotics

>>717371795 (OP)
>no actual gameplay or game mechanics
>just slow walking simulators through fever dream hallucinations
>needs $10000 PC consuming 2000 watt hours to run at 5 fps @ 480p.

No thanks, maybe all those people buying AI generated novels might be interested.

>>717407518
>DJs aren't real musicians.