Thread 717374363

The house always fucking wins baby. Only troons go for NCR or Independent.

Only House has plans to give humanity a real future.

I went Yes Man so the funny robot can control everything.

>>717374363 (OP)
NCR it's the white man's choice and has nothing to do with troons, brownoids and trannies take the Yes Man pill
>muh anarchism
>muh no gods no kings
>chaos!!!
>le funny robot
>fuck not at home am rite fellow redditors??
and all that faggotry.

>>717374363 (OP)
Trans Vegas thread

>>717374363 (OP)
I don't trust House not to turn his moon colony into some Andrew Ryan tier Uber-capitalist hell. NCR's only real problem is corruption, which the courier can solve post game.

My mind's telling me House, but my body's telling me "name 3 of the haughtiest, most high ranking female officers that would make the best Legion slavewives". Discuss.

>>717374363 (OP)
hes a fucking pile of goop in fridge

>>717375702
Aren't we all?

>>717374363 (OP)
NCR will just kill him without your intervention

>>717374363 (OP)
>ncr
>the same politiking retards that got us into the mess to begin wtith
>legion
>retarded tribals led by a literal retard
I'd argue that my 10 int 10 cha courier backde by Big mt. also could do it, but House is really the best bet

>>717375961
>retarded tribals led by a literal retard
The way humans were meant to live

>>717375961
>the same politiking retards that got us into the mess to begin wtith
Sorry anon but in the new lore House literally attended a meeting on nuking US

>>717374363 (OP)
>NCR or Independent.
Thats why I went with the Legate. entire area needed a cleansing flame

>>717376219
>new lore
As far as I am concerned, everything except 1, 2 and new vegas is non-canon

>>717375195
Based and redpilled (Premarin).

>>717376219
You could argue that he was not actually involved, considering he was hardly helmsman at said meeting. He signed off on it because they'd kill him otherwise. Bethesda isn't worthy of the devil's advocacy though.

>>717374363 (OP)
>NCR is currently rebuilding the infrastructure to bring the wasteland back to parity with pre-war civilization
>House claims space travel is the future despite him taking over a rocket company just so he could sell it to the US military to make weapons

>>717375961
>same politiking retards that got us into the mess to begin wtith
Depending on who you believe it was either China or Vault-Tec and other corporate heads who caused the lead up to and nuclear exchange of the Great War

There is literally no reason to not do yes man. It's the house ending but better because my character is smarter, stronger, a better leader and actually did everything. House had to wait around for 200 years for ME to show up and deal with every faction, and he expects me to just be his cucked second mate because he was here first? That's retarded. The only pro house has is being functionally immortal which is why the nrc fell apart, tandy died of old age. My character is so modded by the end of the game however that i guarantee i'd just get myself into the house machine or make my own since i own his all his facilities and all his logs. So house loses even there.

House cucks, explain how he's objectively better than prime courier as the leader of the mojave?

>>717376667
>Depending on who you believe it was either China or Vault-Tec and other corporate heads who caused the lead up to and nuclear exchange of the Great War
Doesn't really matter though, unless there's a single "benevolent dictator" type leader with a definitively overpowered kind of army, it will always be a hot mess out there.

>>717376770
>he thinks his mutant wasteland ass is smarter than House
Nah.

>>717376870
>unless there's a single "benevolent dictator" type leader
That's the point, House ain't it

>>717376990
How come? He's more than willing (and with the couriers help able) to apply force when needed.

>>717376770
There is literally no reason to not do House. Everything you could do with Yes Man you could do with House, and gain the knowledge has just by working with him. People are so quick to fan canon the Independent ending, not realizing other endings can do more with a fraction of the cope. Yes Man doesn't disappear in the House ending, you could betray house at any time.

>Playing one of the most popular Fallout 4 mods
>There's House right out of nowhere
He's so cool he even leaks into other games

>>717376890
>House thinks he can appeal to me by demanding that I genocide a group of people who started to open their mind to changing their ways after I helped them make peace with a faction they were warring with
Yeah House is retarded

>With all that money pouring in? Give me 20 years, and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years, and I'll have people in orbit.
House doesn't understand how many human beings it actually takes to create a working silicon chip. He's an unrealistic idealist, but at least he'll make some progress.
Meanwhile, the NCR and Legion never promise you a better future. They're not even willing to lie to you, not even willing to pretend that they'll improve things.

>>717377037
see >>717377260

>>717376770
>WAHHHH PEOPLE DON'T LICK MY BOOTS I'VE BEEN CUUUUUCKED :(((((
Dude, do you think lieutenants are cucked out of the army because they're not generals? Do you think the speaker of the house feels cucked for not being the president?
Or do you have the understanding of power comparable to a caveman, and believe anyone who isn't first is last?
Frankly, the Courier never displays anything in the way of grand strategic ability. Better to leave that tomfoolery to House and serve as his invincible enforcer anyway, because why even pretend you're actually better at running a nation state? You don't even have the technical knowledge to make use of Hoover Dam. Yes Man does.. but you're trusting a machine who already betrayed his previous master. That seems foolish in the extreme.

>>717377260
If you mean the Brotherhood of Steel: the simple fact is he's right. They're ridiculous. Perhaps they could be persuaded, but why even bother when their entire doctrine is unworthy of salvaging? They are useless people with useless mission goals and their continued presence is nothing more than a military threat, especially if they don't end up changing their ways and keeping to their insipid codex.
House is close minded in that he chooses certainty over possibility, this is true. He wants the certainty of the Brotherhood removed as rogue elements, not the possibility of it.

>>717374363 (OP)
House was too smug. Had to wipe the grin off his face.

>>717377513
>Perhaps they could be persuaded
They literally were, you can get them to work with the NCR despite the fact that there was a bloody war between the two factions.
>They are useless people
>their continued presence is nothing more than a military threat
good job contradicting yourself in the same sentence
>House is close minded in that he chooses certainty over possibility
And yet he has to rely on a courier who can easily betray him just like Benny did

>>717377057
>you can betray him at any time
House never trusted you and in the best house ending you're his enforcer and AGAIN the only reason his attempted changes stick. Because YOU and your charisma 1 max speech chad character are there to do all the talking, fighting, and intimidating he wasn't able to do before. So you really think house won't make a real contingency plan to deal with you betraying him after you help him win the mojave? Given the character that'd be the first thing he'd do once you became more than his wartime chore boy post hoover dam.

>>717377350
All of houses accomplishments post NCR taking over the mojave are literally entirely your own and he was incapable of doing them without you. This is FURTHER show in the house ending where you're his enforcer and are literally the only reason his changes stick and he doesn't get betrayed. House would never admit this though and house cucks love slurping up everything he says (and doesn't say) as fact. The game directly shows you being cucked by house but boot lickers actually love that and think giving your life to an egomaniac who takes the credit for your achievements is actually based and trad pilled or something because house scored high on an internet IQ test and stopped some nukes with jew tech.

>>717377350
>WAAAAAHHH LICKING HOUSES BOOTS DOESN'T MEAN I'M KEKED
Do house fags really?

>yesfags/legionfags/NCRfags seething again
How does he do it?

>>717374363 (OP)
Only Troons play Shit Vegas instead of Chadout 3

>>717377350
I dont want to run the logistics and economy of New Vegas, I want to go shoot things and menace people for fun. House can be my personal dweeb who keeps shit running and in exchange he gets to wear the crown forever, it's just that simple.

>>717377843
>So you really think house won't make a real contingency
Dude, it's been years of this bullshit, just shut the fuck up already. Your super special Independent ending Courier can do anythingTM. There's nothing stopping a House Courier from strapping horded C4 to the center structure of the Lucky 38, and taking the whole fucking building down. Come the fuck on. Stop. Low Karma House ending Couriers have House explicitly afraid of you.

>>717377843
>All of houses accomplishments post NCR taking over the mojave are literally entirely your own and he was incapable of doing them without you.
Because he has everything else in place and was only lacking for military might. You are military might incarnate as an invincible WRPG protagonist. You are the missing piece of his puzzle. This doesn't "cuck" you in any way, you are not the man with the plan. Your Courier, even when he wins Vegas, does not have a state after that. There is nowhere for you to take this vessel.
And god help you if Yes Man's assertiveness upgrade means he doesn't have to listen to you anymore.

>>717378928
>house wouldn't make a plan to keep you in line, he's too scared of you!
House literally attempts to kill you outright if you piss him off too much and ignore his direct commands. He also does everything in his power to manipulate the player into being his lapdog.

Also fucking retarded to imply that fear would make house of all people not create a plan to kill you. In fact i'd argue he'd be even more motivated to do that in the low karma house ending.

You do understand a core theme (i'd argue THE core theme) of new vegas is showing all the different ways different types of organized governments succumb to corruption with a nice cherry on top asking you "is building back actually a good or viable thing?". There isn't a morally good ending besides the yes man ending which is just "what your player character would do". House isn't the "correct option" compared to the NCR and the legion, he's wrong, corrupt and a failed empire in different ways compared to the other 2 factions but house fags can only see his faction as being the developers intended "government but actually good!" Faction because gamers have zero media literacy and are genuinely retarded. There's no fallout game with the "good and correct faction".

>>717377072
which mod?

>>717374363 (OP)
>House has plans
House's plans always go tits up so that doesn't amount to much.

>>717378937
>bro he didn't need you to do all his stuff. He just needed you to do all his stuff.
>his grandmaster plan!!!!
My courier is too retarded to walk around to different factions and fix their problems? Besides the bunker and killing the brotherhood all of houses requests and master plan steps are "courier, go to this faction and make them think the way i want them to think. I am to autistic to say please, and could you stop smelling so bad? I know i don't have a nose but i can see you reek of retardation".

>>717377260
They're just Rust Devils with better armor, and instead of attacking people who have robots they attack anyone with anything more advanced than a handgun.

>>717379827
No anon, that's just your part in the plan. His master plan is getting his bunker wired up with his advanced securitrons and ready to conquer everything.
Your job is to get all the ducks in a row while that's spooling up. You are just an actual fucking imbecile who thinks that your part is the only part.

>>717374363 (OP)
>>717375195
Man, I just don't get either the love or the hate this game gets.

I put 160h in fo4 and it's fucking shite

>>717378396
I can't get into Fallout 3 because I'm white.
I just can't connect with a story about being abandoned by my dad.

>>717379614
Cunt literally the ONLY negative the game gives to Mr House running the strip is "it feels cold"
Motherfucker is that the best you can muster?
BAAAWWWWWWW MY STD RIDDLED GAMBLING PIT FULL OF DRUGS AND PROSTITUTION DOESNT HAVE THE HUMAN ELEMENT ANYMOOOOOOOORE

Jesus Christ I think Far Cry New Dawn would be a better post apocalyptic game for you you absolute nigger.

>>717380032
House built all of that and then sat on his ass crying for 200 years because he was too retarded to put an apple tag on his platinum chip or make a replacement security key in the 2 centuries he had. Such a genius, huh? Meanwhile i show up and i use all of his loot properly and actually put the army of bots to good use. Plus i'm not a space fag that's only obsessed with rockets. I'm starting to see why amerimutts suck house's dick so hard, must be genetic trauma from being isreals bitch for so long

>>717379907
Yes, let's just ignore that nearly getting wiped out by the NCR has a lot of them questioning their ideals and that allows the courier to broker cooperation between them and another faction that they were at odds with. Let's stick with the "benevolent" dictator who refuses to even take any of that into consideration and demands you kill all of them.

>>717380416
Yes but you're a faggot.
That's the only argument we need. You're getting this upset on a Moldavian Fingerpainting board, I could only imagine how much of a faggot you'd be in the hot seat.

Maybe you should side with the legion instead you modern day Elagabalus.

>>717380580
They're as critical of their ideals as Muslims are when they are under 2 percent of a nation's population.
Perhaps you'd be more at home playing Fallout London if you're this apologetic about religious zealouts.

>>717380370
>autistic faggot that doesn't actually care about humanity, it's just easier to rebuild society to achieve his goals of space travel and star trek larping. He'd sooner kill off the rest of humanity if he didn't require people to run mass industry when he BUILDS BACK BETTER

>can't even acknowledge me being entirely to thank for him winning, acts like i should be thankful for being given the opportunity to help him

>>717380848
>HE DIDNT CUP MY BALLS WAAAAAAAH
Mr House isn't your dad, stop blaming him for the lack of affection in your life.
Blame yourself for being a gay vunt.

>>717380672
>you discussed video games in the video games board, you're butthurt!!!
Why aren't you allowed to have a simple shit flinging video game debate on a forum without some nigger like yourself implying everyone is assmad. It's called having fun, retard. Debate is fun. Especially when you're wrong and i'm right

>>717380967
I'm not into being a golem for house's autistic interests. It's that simple. You seem to love it

>>717374363 (OP)
>mfw I see someone taking stimpaks but still losing HP, working for useless casino chips, and groveling to the demoncratic NCR.

>>717380976
You don't nee to be a faggot to discuss videogames. You wouldn't be heterosexual if you were an outdoors kid, you'd just have sucked a dick behind the bleachers instead.

>>717380836
The whole storyline of the Mojave BoS is they're starting to realizing their ideology is unsustainable. Either play the game or stop pretending to be ignorant.

>>717381104
Fuck em
Deport them back to where they came from. Hell.

BoS was always the stupidest shit in Fallout.

>>717381060
Which one takes it up the ass? Oh wait, its Legion, they all do.

>>717381187
>no argument
>just /pol/ style screeching
every time

>>717381371
Why do I need an argument to not like something?
Did you hand out a questionnaire at school asking why everyone thought you were a dork?

>>717377801
>They literally were
One small chapter, in a particularly shitty situation
>good job contradicting yourself in the same sentence
Nah. They're useless to anybody but themselves, fucking hypocrites.
>And yet he has to rely on a courier who can easily betray him just like Benny did
Omission made specifically for plot and player agency reasons, but I agree, it would be great if House tried to get rid of you if you were particularly shitty or incompatible with his goals.

>>717381281
>Thank House we don't have Caesar ruling us, imagine how bad things would be! More rat?

>>717381493
>Why do I need an argument to not like something
You can like/dislike whatever you want, just don't expect people to think you have a valid point when you don't even know the subject

>>717381098
>you're a faggot
And you're a nigger :^)

>>717376770
House ending slides are better than independent ending slides even with a big brain courier

>>717381552
>One small chapter
Which is more than House by himself absolutely refusing to hear anything you have to say about the subject
>They're useless to anybody but themselves
And yet House is terrified of them. And the NCR is willing to coopertae with them despite their bloody history.
>Omission made specifically for plot and player agency reasons
He literally has no recourse if you do not do everything in game for him. What's he going to do, try to convince some other person in New Vegas who's known him as a recluse even longer than the Courier did?

>>717381928
>Which is more than House by himself absolutely refusing to hear anything you have to say about the subject
Yeah, the plotline of House allying with them does not exist, why would there be anything to that extent?
>And yet House is terrified of them. And the NCR is willing to coopertae with them despite their bloody history.
Sure, lets leave a bunch of dogmatic assholes with a whole bunch of pre-war tech alone. Surely nothing would go wrong.
>He literally has no recourse if you do not do everything in game for him.
Have to agree with you here, it would be great if he would hire some goons to go after you if you've refused to work with him. I guess the studio was already stretched too thin for that.
>What's he going to do, try to convince some other person in New Vegas who's known him as a recluse even longer than the Courier did?
Sure, why not? He already had convinced a bunch of tribals, and hired 8 more couriers besides you.

>>717382263
>the plotline of House allying with them does not exist, why would there be anything to that extent?
Because Fallout is a series known for diplomatic resolutions between characters/factions?
>lets leave a bunch of dogmatic assholes with a whole bunch of pre-war tech alone
Except that's not what's happening, you're engaging them towards a mutually beneficial relationship
>it would be great if he would hire some goons to go after you if you've refused to work with him
And then you as the Courier would just waste them and now there's an active reason to work against him
>Sure, why not?
Because it already failed once with Benny and possibly twice with the Courier.
>He already had convinced a bunch of tribals
That either aren't loyal to him, don't trust him or are actively working against him like Benny and the Omertas
>hired 8 more couriers besides you
Name them and explain how any one of them would be willing AND skilled enough to do what's required to give New Vegas to House

>>717374363 (OP)
Still wondering how much they fuck him in the ass, in the second season of Fallout TV series, in order to fit their nonsense lore.

>>717382856
>Because Fallout is a series known for diplomatic resolutions between characters/factions?
>Except that's not what's happening, you're engaging them towards a mutually beneficial relationship
Once again, one small chapter with little to no influence on fraction as a whole
>And then you as the Courier would just waste them and now there's an active reason to work against him
Yeah, would be fun
>Because it already failed once with Benny and possibly twice with the Courier.
>That either aren't loyal to him, don't trust him or are actively working against him like Benny and the Omertas
Yep, a plot designed specifically to have a player character to be a critical and deciding influence on the setting, has some powerful figure require the player character, how curious.
>Name them and explain how any one of them would be willing AND skilled enough to do what's required to give New Vegas to House
Ness, Paula, Jeff and Poo used their wits, guts and/or PSI to... wait that's a different game.

Give me liberty or give me death.

>>717376219
And so? According to the official lore, House destroyed all the nukes approaching New Vegas, instead of let them hit the ground. So he was not agreeing with the Vault-tec/Enclave cabalist idea.

>>717383446
>one small chapter with little to no influence on fraction as a whole
And? Why would that matter when the point of contention is they can be reasoned with?
>a plot designed specifically to have a player character to be a critical and deciding influence on the setting
It's explained why people in Vegas are wary of House, no one has seen him in hundreds of years because he shuts himself off from the world at large. He garners no loyalty from anyone, especially the three tribes he recruited to run New Vegas.

>>717383894
>And? Why would that matter when the point of contention is they can be reasoned with?
BoS has a history of being antagonistic cunts, some of them suddenly changing their minds is outright suspicious.
>It's explained why people in Vegas are wary of House
>no one has seen him in hundreds of years because he shuts himself off from the world at large
>He garners no loyalty from anyone, especially the three tribes he recruited to run New Vegas.
>A character written to be a man of pure reason, is naturally disliked by the chaotic mess that is the Mojave in particular, and Wasteland as a whole.
Works pretty well, from a literary standpoint, especially since House was in-part based on a real-life megalomaniacal rich recluse.
In the framework that is set up by the setting, a cold and calculating asshole who was THIS close to getting through the whole great war thing squeaky clean, is complemented by chaotic free-agent perfectly.
And if you are inclined to go all
>hurr-durr why are you deflecting to it being a work of fiction so much
One could just go
>whelp, if it was REAL LIFE humanity wouldn't nuke itself into the stone-age over some bullshit
or
>well, a sufficiently organized faction, be it NCR, The Master, or whatever would just steamroll the rest

>>717384997
>suddenly changing their minds
They've been beaten down and hiding for months, it's clear they can't complete their stated goals the way they're headed
>A character written to be a man of pure reason
>who refuses to hear one word of why the only person in New Vegas who is trying to help him doesn't want to genocide a whole faction of people
Doesn't sound very reasonable to me

>>717374363 (OP)
>he fell for the sales pitch
Got another one.

>>717377260
>destroys vault 21 before you get there
>destroys the brotherhood no negotiations
>both are conveniently the factions that have preserved their knowledge and tech from pre war and wouldn't be wowed by his cardboard cutout civilisation

>>717380370
You know what isn't mentioned in any of the ending slides? anything he promised. Once he's in power he only cares to keep his little snowglobe of the old world swirling.