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What are your thoughts on Elite Dangerous?

Squandered opportunity. Also really good keybinding—I managed to fit everything except the front headlights on an xbox controller.

pseudo-MMO garbage, play a proper space game like X3 or 4 instead

>>717393437 (OP)
Boolin'.

>>717393568
>you want to play this flight sim in space? no, you should play [entirely different thing] instead
BIG retard.

>>717393437 (OP)
It could be such a great game, but they intentionally prevent it from being that. You want awesome dog fighting? Too bad, go back to the job board, also you have to contend with NPCs trying to kill your target, and if you aren't fast enough you auto fail missions

>>717393437 (OP)
it could have been great but it's just dead in the water. Some people on the tranny sub are hailing it reborn because of the ARX ships but FDev literally losing money on F1 manager, that Sigmar thing, Planet coaster and the Jurassic world thing flopping. almost good game, almost

>>717393437 (OP)
Pseudo single player/coop/MMO game that has an identity crisis on what it is and for who.

Singleplayer/coop game for a simulated galaxy would have been great. A full MMO akin to EvE with full player control/galaxy growth would have been cool. A Sea of Thieves style jump in/jump out game would have been great.

What we got was a weird developer hybrid where they want players to have a persistent universe and impact but also not let players do whatever they want, leading to shit like the "power play" NPC driven narrative. It tried so hard to just be Elite but a sequel without realising customers wants/desires had changed.

Like it was obvious from day 1, everyone was saying it, they mostly wanted a full MMO with full player control. But they refused to let anyone have fun. Instead you got all these weird pseudo features. Full coop? Nah have wings. Player factions? Nah have power play. Economics? Na have NPC trading. Developing your own stations/systems with new economic requirements? Na have a linear upgrade check box with flat passive payment instead. Fucking Starsector has more economic depth than Elite, you can actually crush whole factions by monopolizing resources. Can't let you do that in Elite.

Also as a side point, space is fucking boring, its whats in space that's fun. The amount of time you have to waste moving around is insane. Last time I played I think I found it was 1m just to hop one system. Thats 15 fucking minutes to hop 15 systems.

>>717393951
>>717393437 (OP)
Also while im ranting, they could have just had a single player/coop game and then allowed modding. Which would have completely changed and improved the entire experience for everyone. You could have MADE the game you wanted.

Because all you want from a dev in a space sim game is them to give you the tools, and Elite has the best ships and some of the best combat of any space sim game ever. Beyond that it should have been up to players to choose how and what they played.

>>717393951
One of the biggest faults of the game is how annoying they made it to fly in a group with friends

>>717393951
they still have fucking Peer 2 Peer networking and not server side clients kek. Lets not forget what Odyssey did, foot missions still not even in VR. christ this game was such a let down

garbage that will never change. I've never seen such a rabid and delusional fan base you can't even suggest thinking of maybe critizising the game on the steam discussions, forums or read it either

SC is a scam but it's atleast more enjoyable

>>717394103
>>717394123
What killed me was that I can remember the kickstarter and the younger devs in the team being excited for all the potential player control and simulating they could do. Obviously all of that got VISIONED by the boomer CEO who hasn't given up any control to younger people who would have done a better job with Elite.

>>717394289
i don't even know why it's still operating. FDev literally said in their 2023 and 2024 financial and board reports they wanted to focus on their Managment Sim games like Tycoon, Planet, F1 manager and so on. they haven't mentioned elite in their reports besides the footnotes

>>717393437 (OP)
My first 100 hours (in one week) of this game was a complete obsession. I was in awe at the sound effects, the realistic visuals that had me mesmerized every time I pulled into a planet's orbit, and I was so intent on earning credits to get better spaceships just so I can travel the galaxy like all the big boys.
Then I gave up on the engineering stuff, the missions became tiring, and the game to me was just go to star, go to star, go to star, go to star, then my playtime decreased. All the planets look the same, everything just looks the same. I was hoping we could get some actual biomes with unique terrain on these planets, but thats probably too advanced. The whole point of the game is flying in spaceships and it excels at that.
Weirdly enough I feel like going back. I kinda miss it. I miss taking screenshots while on foot on planets and just generally feeling alone with no one else around. I played this with GeForce Now on a Logitech G Cloud and it was the comfiest way to play the game. I wish I still had that thing.

>>717394457
I load it up like once a month or something when I get high for some space trucking. Pretty great if that's all you want.

>>717394613
>space trucking
You have never played it.

>>717395590
I've got 1000 hours on it the fuck you on about? Mining or space trucking from one station to another in the Cutter is peak when your high

>>717396064
1000 hours wasted doing the least profitable activity in the game. Sure.

>>717393437 (OP)
I HATE RNG GACHA PARTS

>>717393568
>>717393568
I wish games like x4 had co-op.

>>717396614
you only needed a couple hours of the vopal/LTD/Painite rushes to make billions. Once you have all the money in the world whats the point

>>717393437 (OP)
had a lot of fun with it before my hotas shit itself. it desperately needed more depth when i was playing (horizons) and im guessing that was never addressed.
i heard the planet dlc was shit too, which is a bit sad

>>717396812
nta but those methods have been nerfed into oblivion years ago

>>717396959
true but for someone who's played back when those were just emerging and jumped the band wagon to milk credits it's a moot point. I only load the game up now for some good ol' space trucking in VR when I'm really really bored. Even now Exo is an easy way to make billions. Point is even if I didn't have 500 billion in credits this game is only good for space trucking now

>>717393437 (OP)
Stupid and gay, like (you)... Or should I say (saar)

>>717396939
friend they never even really fixed the Engineering. Now they're selling upgraded ships for ARX and powerplay 2.0 is just as boring and uninteresting as it use to be

>>717396959
Not that money hasn't been growing on trees for years anyway. I got bored last year and reset my save file looking for the thrill of being poor again only to be sitting in a carrier again after a couple weeks.

>>717396959
>>717397314
>>717397501
What's the best way to make money then?

>>717393437 (OP)
You cant stand up and walk around your ship and I looked at the forums and the players have been shitting on anyone who says it would be cool for that to be a thing for like 10 years

>>717397458
figured as much

>>717393437 (OP)
Dogfighting was fun before they added the - go to a galaxy 12 real world hours away to engineer shit - mechanic. Now if you aren't 500 hours into space trucking you can't afford a decent fighter.

>>717393437 (OP)
total dogshit, by 2078 you might be able to get a federal corvette, even though you have the money to just buy one right now
and don't even forget the engineer grind. whoever greenlit that needs to get nuked with 30 bombs

>>717397910
The 'best' way is by finding the activities you enjoy doing.

>>717399060
best way is to not play a shit game thats on life support

>>717394382
The ARX ships they sell are probably making more money than the box sales. It took them a fucking decade to figure out that people want space ships and will spend money to buy access to them.

>>717397910
r2r scanning ammonia planets
16ish millions per hour depending on your shitcan

>>717399276
As I said. Don't do what you don't enjoy.

It fucking sucks and space games need to stop relying on proc gen.

>>717400371
but why? space is so exciting to explore when you get to tileset #983992, you just don't get it

>>717400790
God space fags are AI bros too aren't they. They don't want to explore something interesting they just want the SCALE

>>717393951
>Last time I played I think I found it was 1m just to hop one system. Thats 15 fucking minutes to hop 15 systems.
If it were "just" travel time on autopilot, at least the kind of people who do long flights in flight sims might appreciate it. But you have to manually activate each individual jump. It's the worst kind of travel: there's too much waiting to be not be bored but too much interactivity to go make a sandwich.

>>717396614
ED attracts space job roleplayers who don't care about getting rich quick

Space cucks are the most pathetic fanbase. You people deserve starfield.

>>717403265
starfield isnt a space game

Admit it, you all got the Panther Clipper in early access, didn't you?

>>717403514
And elite dangerous isn't a game, space cuck.

>>717397910
Unless there's a community goal paying out huge like there is right now, it's scanning spores, molds and fungus on planets. Literally makes billions and there's still a ton undiscovered because it's a more recent addition.

>>717404320
Fuck no. No. Fuck off.

>>717396614
To many "maximizing profit" isn't the point of the game. It's basically a huge sandbox, set your own goals.

I completely agree with others that it's a very shallow game, but there is a *lot* of that shallow content. Just find your niche.

>>717404519
>Bacteria
That's the most basic thing. Find literally anything else and it pays 10 times more.

>>717404519
If you know, you know.

How many hours of fun can I get out of this game before it sucks

>>717393437 (OP)
Played ~1000 hours this year. I highly recommend. Although the learning curve is something akin to a mountain you climb up then parachute off of and glide.

it's only fun in VR.

>>717404772
Most people hit several hundred before they get tired of the endless loops of doing mostly the same thing. Others keep coming back because it's one of the best sims for space flight out there. If you have a HOTAS/HOSAS and VR, it's amazing.

>>717393437 (OP)
i forgot i bought it in early access

>>717404772
I hit 500 hours before I really hit a wall, but by then I had enough credits for a carrier and every ship (that I had access to). Powerplay is a bit naff, but the Community Goals can be fun. Mining and Trucking are relaxing, the flight model (and sound) is still best in class so the pew-pew is fun. Exobiology is ezmoney and at times, some of the visuals are jaw-dropping.

>>717405032
Are you me? I only played it for the first time earlier this year so I've missed out on a load of stuff, mainly the Thargoid War, but I've also got a bunch of super rare content on my account only EA people have access to.

>>717393437 (OP)
i prefer star citizen's flight model, but i really do like the scale of elite dangerous, as in elite, you can go to thousands of star systems instead of just two.
but i really like how in elite you can control your ship in super cruise mode as opposed to star citizen's quantum travel.

the flight model in elite is very star war'sy and unrealistic though, i don't like how there are atmospheric rules when you are off a planet, AKA, rolling is faster than yawing.


elite is great, but i find myself playing scam citizen recently more despite the latter being a buggy piece of mess.

>>717404910
VR isn't even officially supported any more

>>717393437 (OP)
A potentially amazing game with a bottomless well of content that is squandered on an inept development team being led by equally clueless management. Every single aspect of the game follows the same pattern; announce a new exciting system that entire gameplay styles can be based around, implement the absolute barest bones necessary for the system to function and then never expand on it afterwards. Exobiology, exploration, infiltration, PvE ground shooter combat, mining, salvaging, trading etc are all in the same state of affairs. They repeatedly make the absolutely insane decision to put in all the hard effort developing new systems and then never build upon them afterwards. The end result is a predictable cycle of people getting the game, sinking a decent amount of time into trying out all the different things available and then be left wondering what the fuck is left to do with a vague sense that there should be easily ten times as much.

>>717405096
I swear they put so many dick and phalluses and vaginas in there it had to have been intentional.

>>717405690
I was going to ask who still uses a Krait of exploration then I noticed the timestamp.

>>717405780
I repurposed my Krait to a deep core miner, but with the new mining ship coming out in a couple months it might get retired completely. I do love it though. Had a lot of great times in that ship. That and my old Diamondback. I'll never sell them.

>>717405284
are all of the planets just as barren as the moons where?

>>717396614
souless

>>717406031
Pretty much.

>>717406194
that's a bit disappointing. ill probably still come back to the game at some point though, been wanting to do some mining again for some reason.

>>717406031
You can find geological formations (steam, water, ice and magma geysers mostly) and biological organisms, plus the new plants and fungus. Other than that and the occasional interesting land configuration there's nothing else really on them if they're not populated. Once Odyssey came out they increased the amount of random stuff you can find on them, like crash sites, wreckage, pirate stockpiles and small structures, but those aren't static.

Not worth it if you want any PvP as the only people doing it only do PvP and it's all organized and min-max shit. Want to just have random PvP or pirating shit? alt f4 into solo awaits you.

>>717393437 (OP)
it was fun but kinda shallow
once you get pass the "learning how to play the game" phase
the game kinda just end
I literally cant be bother to even finish grinding the engineer shit
x4 is a better game

>>717406354
True. There is zero reason to use Open, especially for a noob.

>>717405328
I have 800+ hours in it and 100% of those hours are in VR.

>>717406468
X4 has two main problems. It has an even steeper learning curve than Elite, and it still has the worst UI in any space game (one of the worst in gaming, period).

>>717393437 (OP)
Snoozefest of a game.

>>717396064
>space trucking
Have you considered getting a real job and doing something with your life?

>>717393437 (OP)
If they add earth-like planets, then I'll never play another game again. Right now trading and exobiology are really fun to me, but with ELWs, exobio would be like crack to me.

Though I doubt they can do it given how my performance drops from 180 to 40 the moment i see some tussock.

Maybe with the rumored starfield update I'll be able to juggle ED and SF to scratch those space sim and ELW itches.

>>717406597
i dont want to pay more tax to my jewish overlord

>>717406558
go back to tiktok

I'm betting she becomes Emperor before they shut the game down.

>>717393437 (OP)
I like mining

>>717406721
she's like 12 years older now. probably got 4 kids and a beer gut

>>717406721
She has the shittest Powerplay rewards but everyone still picks that blue-haired waifu.

bump

>>717393437 (OP)
sus

>>717407482
It's really not cool that the empire has slaves. She will free the slaves.

>>717406551
>x4
>steep learning core
X3 Reunion had a steep learning core. X4 is as casual as it gets.