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Anonymous No.717396226 >>717396402 >>717396850 >>717396941 >>717397139 >>717397541 >>717398182 >>717398341 >>717398498 >>717398858 >>717399439 >>717399516 >>717399891 >>717400015 >>717400029 >>717401059 >>717401759
Why did this piss so many people off?
Anonymous No.717396402 >>717396563 >>717396991
>>717396226 (OP)
What will release first KH4 or FF7R-3?
Anonymous No.717396563 >>717397439 >>717398165
>>717396402
I think KH4, considering the amount of video of actual gameplay we've seen of KH4 compared to the nothing for R-3, but maybe R-3 has been in production the entire time and will come out sooner than we think since they didn't have to develop for a newer console like they did for R-2.
Anonymous No.717396629 >>717397059
>character me not like? me mad!
that's all
Anonymous No.717396693 >>717396909
People were mad?
Weren't people crying and shitting themselves with joy that the anime mickey mouse kid got into Smash?
Anonymous No.717396850 >>717397145
>>717396226 (OP)
Because Sora is a lame fucking character and people only requested him just to see if Nintendo was capable of going through the legal hell of dealing with Disney to include him.
Anonymous No.717396909
>>717396693
>People were mad?
https://youtu.be/MWZIoEFK4GM?si=mNRuvwgKrMPHLTd0&t=183
Anonymous No.717396941 >>717397168 >>717397270
>>717396226 (OP)
Most people are not fans of Kingdom Hearts. And Disney is not the most celebrated company in the gaming industry. Disney is lame shit for girls. Who do you think paid one billion at the box office for the recent Live Action Lilo and Stitch? Stupid cunts.

Also Kingdom Hearts has lost its good will. Too many shitty decisions has tarnished Kingdom Hearts. I don't think Sora deserved to be in Smash after Kingdom Hearts 3 really cemented how awful Kingdom Hearts has become.
Anonymous No.717396991 >>717399743
>>717396402
Doesn't matter neither game will be on the Switch 2.
Anonymous No.717397059
>>717396629
Yes. Grug see fag grug mad. Grug hate fag. Grug hate fag and ugly female. Grug mad so many fag and ugly female in grug vision. Grug try many frog escape fag world but frog send grug to ugly women world. Grug blame six pointed star tribe for fag ugly women in real world and frog poison world. Grug want world no fag or ugly women. Grug mad!
Anonymous No.717397139 >>717397324
>>717396226 (OP)
Smash players are the most entitled fanbase out there. It only makes sense that half of the people playing it would be upset. You shouldโ€™ve seen how they treated Kazuya being in
Anonymous No.717397145 >>717397347
>>717396850
The funny thing is Sora did make it into Smash but his moveset is awful. Not as bad as Sonic but still not good.

Doesn't matter anymore though Sora is probably a one deal affair. He's not returning to Smash ever again. Why would he? Kingdom Hearts continues to lose popularity thanks to the trash story making the characters lamer and less popular. And Nintendo never even got physical ports of the Kingdom Hearts games but those rip off Cloud Editions which made even Kingdom Hearts fans angry. Sora has no right to be in Smash Bros.
Anonymous No.717397168
>>717396941
I dont care how bad nuKH is, the first two games will always be kino masterpieces. You had to have been at the right age though and a fan of those Disney movies years prior to playing or youโ€™ll never understand. Those games were perfect
Anonymous No.717397270 >>717397462
>>717396941
>most people are not fans of kh
3 still selling like 7 million copies despite actually being the 12th game or whatever pretty easily disproves this. Most people are not smash rosterfags and most people do not care about any of the characters in the game at all
Anonymous No.717397324
>>717397139
Kazuya is a character Nintendo fans have no attachment to because Tekken is typically affiliated with Playstation. And even then he's a trash character. If they truly wanted a fighting game villain champion that's what M Bison is for. Would have gladly traded Ken for Bison. And then you have other fan favorites like Akuma. Bison and Akuma are more recognized and respected than Kazuya worldwide. For crying out loud Bison was so popular and well known he made a speaking cameo appearance in Disney's Wreck it Ralph. You don't get speaking cameos if you're a nobody.
Anonymous No.717397347 >>717397664
>>717397145
kingdom hearts' popularity loss is for no reason but that they're not pumping out side-games constantly anymore
Anonymous No.717397439 >>717397671 >>717397713 >>717400570
>>717396563
Is Sora going to fuck Kiri yet? He is like 16 now whatโ€™s the hold up?
Anonymous No.717397462 >>717397650
>>717397270
KH3 only sold as much as it did due to...

- Long standing good faith.

- Literal hype that it was finally KH3 proper.

Both novelties are expired and Kingdom Hearts 4 is bound to sell worse than 3. The story is so shitty right now. And since Disney does NOT make good movies anymore the worlds for Kingdom Hearts are shit.
Anonymous No.717397517
Since the Brawl days, Sora was one character Smash fans simply KNEW was never going to happen. Simply mentioning him would get you laughed at.

Then you jump to Ultimate. For three years, they believed Crash, Doomguy, Hayabusa, Dante, Geno, and others were all getting in as DLC. Not wanted, BELIEVED. Then for three years, they had to watch every single DLC fighter NOT be any of them.

Finally, you reach Ultimates last DLC, and after three years of KNOWING at least one of them must be getting in, the final character ends up being... the character they knew was never going to happen. And it was hilarious.
Anonymous No.717397541
>>717396226 (OP)
I'm mostly upset he doesn't have strike raid, but he's pretty fun otherwise
Anonymous No.717397618
who should it have been?
Anonymous No.717397650
>>717397462
>most people aren't fans of KH
> but KH3 only sold so much because of how many fans there were
Thanks for the circle tread, retard.
Anonymous No.717397664 >>717397826 >>717398012 >>717398082 >>717398309 >>717399469
>>717397347
Kingdom Hearts is indeed losing popularity because the story is shitty. You can't keep...

Reviving dead characters
Time traveling around
Invent new clone characters
Do multiverse shit

Repeatedly because the customer eventually loses tolerance for that shit. That's what's ruined Kingdom Hearts. It's become way too messy that it has lost the interest the fans used to have.
Anonymous No.717397671 >>717397846
>>717397439
>he doesn't know
Yes they will very likely fuck after 4 and start a whole new generation
Anonymous No.717397713
>>717397439
Sora is a Shonen protagonist that means he's going to act like a homosexual until FIVE SECONDS during the final cut scene where he reveals he's straight. Well either that or he dies like Eren from Attack on Titan a loser who never scored with a girl who lusted for him.
Anonymous No.717397826
>>717397664
guy who believes guardians of the galaxy didn't have western fiction by storm for a few years
Anonymous No.717397846 >>717398140
>>717397671
Final fuckingly and maybe make KH more mature and get rid of the childrenโ€™s cartoons. Iโ€™m tired of hearing Donald and goofys noises when they fight. Their audience has grown up now, just lean into the FF aspect and ditch the cartoons.
Anonymous No.717398012
>>717397664
>Reviving dead characters

This is where Kingdom Hearts lost me. I hate reviving dead characters. Reviving dead characters makes me want to grab the people writing this shit force a magnum revolver into their mouths and tell them "Don't worry I'm going to use nonsense to revive you" and pull the trigger letting the bullet kill them.

Look at that faggot Akira Toriyama from Dragon Ball. That hack made a mockery of death with his franchise and what happened to him in real life? He DIED. He's dead. He's worm food. He's getting eaten by vermin. He's not coming back to life he's fucking dead like the hack that he is. The world needs to kill anyone who makes light of death because death is final. Ozzy Osbourn is dead. Hulk Hogan is dead. And when the time is right Hillary Clinton and Trump will die and thankfully death is permanent. Death should be respected as permanent.

And whenever its the turn of Square Enix's employees to die we need to celebrate their deaths. I'm waiting until Sakaguchi dies. And death a good thing look at Iwata's death in real life it helped show Nintendo's true nature as an evil greedy corporation. Iwata alive was hiding their greed thankfully with him in Hell where he belongs no one can deny Nintendo's disgusting nature. Death is good. Death is final.
Anonymous No.717398082 >>717398280
>>717397664
they put up with it as long as they did because theyre genuine homos. but even homos are starting to get disillusioned with corpos lipservice.
Anonymous No.717398140 >>717398279 >>717398470
>>717397846
Kingdom Hearts aging Sora is one of the worst aspects of the franchise. Sora being well into his teenage years but acting like an eight year old child is annoying.
Anonymous No.717398165 >>717399347
>>717396563
>the amount of video of actual gameplay we've seen of KH4
Kek thats like nothing since it's probably pre rendered while FF7R-3 can and will reuse assets so it's not that far off
Anonymous No.717398182 >>717398859
>>717396226 (OP)
I do like Sora, I just never thought he was possible. I am happy for all my Kingdom Heartsbros that actually managed to get their impossible character in and despite what some will say, I think Sora was a pretty good send off.

Honestly my main issue wasn't Sora himself but what came before him because this still breaks me to this day
Anonymous No.717398212
I havenโ€™t played smash bros in a million years, why is there anime and kh bitches in my Nintendo game? kangdum farts and final faggotry isnโ€™t even Nintendo
Anonymous No.717398271
Kingdom hearts is fucking dogshit and sora is a non-character with a stupid design.
Anonymous No.717398279 >>717398395
>>717398140
Ya but wasnโ€™t he like in the matrix? He wakes up and his body aged years after it seemed like hours in the matrix. Mhva4p
Anonymous No.717398280 >>717398415
>>717398082
Exactly there always comes a point when things get so awful even the fanatics start quitting. Look at Assassins Creed that franchise got real shitty for a long time to the point fanboys stopped liking it.

That's what's happening to other long running series like Kingdom Hearts and even examples like God of War. You just can't continue with shoddy mediocre quality forever. That's impossible And I don't care what anyone says Kingdom Hearts has absolutely cemented itself as being garbage.

You can tolerate a lot if the quality at least stays somewhat decent but Kingdom Hearts doesn't do that. It merely gets worse and worse. Right now all the major main characters are a bunch of Loser Jobbers as well making them less remarkable. Kingdom Hearts simply generally continues to get worse.
Anonymous No.717398309 >>717398439 >>717398467 >>717399873
>>717397664
>>Reviving dead characters
Kingdom Hearts has literally never once revived a dead character and all the people who say they did literally aren't paying attention.
>BUT ROXAS
Wasn't dead. KH2 blatantly throws it in your fucking face that Roxas has a heart of his own, and it was already established in KH1 that hearts can survive in someone else's body.
>BUT AXEL
Ditto for the above, though I will admit that the whole nobody/heartless killing = re-completion thing was a new plot point at the time, but still.

The only KH characters who straight up actually die have, thus far, stayed dead. Xehanort and Eraqus are DEAD. They're not coming back. Melody of Memory Xehanort was just Kairi's brain being a dick, he wasn't real.
Anonymous No.717398341
>>717396226 (OP)
because it wasnโ€™t the 2000โ€™s, people are bigger faggots now.
Anonymous No.717398395
>>717398279
You mean Sora going to sleep for a year after Chain of Memories and aging? Yes Sora underwent this but when he woke up Sora is written as being stupid and not questioning why he has become older. Each new game writes Sora as a bigger idiot.
Anonymous No.717398415 >>717398583
>>717398280
Also the series relies primarily on what slop Disney now produces and nobody fucking cares about that shit because their audience has grown up. No fucking child these days gives two shits about Disney slop or final fantasy.
Anonymous No.717398439 >>717398675
>>717398309
In Kingdom Hearts 3 Kairi was killed off TWICE and got revived TWICE. So don't give me that bullshit. The writing is garbage.
Anonymous No.717398467 >>717398675
>>717398309
A dead person becoming a heart and that heart eventually reconstituting into a person through one means or another is bringing them back from the dead. Characters being functionally replaced by replicas or digital simulacra or just having other characters that look and act exactly the same for no reason at all are brought back to life in every way that matters. A character later being revealed to have survived what was implied to be a fatal incident is brought back from the dead.
Anonymous No.717398470 >>717398719
>>717398140
>Sora being well into his teenage years but acting like an eight year old child
I'm convinced everyone who calls Sora stupid for his age either hasn't played the games or doesn't remember being a teenager. Sora's one of the sharpest characters in every game he's in with the exception of 3D and in 3D he's having his main character flaws (primarily his reliance on others and optimistic nature) directly taken advantage of by the villains. At no point in KH2 does he act in a way severely out of character for the goofy 15 year old he is, and if anything KH3 is a little jarring with how he's consistently the least retarded and most proactive guy in the room for 90% of the plot.
Anonymous No.717398498 >>717398804
>>717396226 (OP)
Because sora is such a bad smash character.
He doesn't even have a command menu or reaction commands. they gave him nothing.
Anonymous No.717398583
>>717398415
From what I see Disney's animated movies are still successful like Moana, Moana 2, Inside Out, Zootopia, etc.

But that said I reject those awful movies. I don't want them in Kingdom Hearts. I don't want to interact with those frankly SHITTY characters that do less than nothing for me. It's not even about nostalgia I saw those movies and I don't like those characters. They are lame, they are shitty, and they represent Disney's Leftist Virtue Signaling agenda given the era these movies were made in so I really HATE these shit movies. The story of Frozen 2 is "White people owe reparations because white ancestors are evil!" Bunch of shit.
Anonymous No.717398675 >>717398960 >>717398998 >>717399248
>>717398467
>>717398439
>In Kingdom Hearts 3 Kairi was killed off TWICE
>A dead person becoming a heart and that heart eventually reconstituting into a person through one means or another is bringing them back from the dead.
Getting turned into a heart isn't death in the Kingdom Hearts universe, you fucking retard, and it never has been. The major plot twist of KINGDOM HEARTS FUCKING ONE is that people can survive in someone else's body without a heart, and the inclusion of Nobodies in KH2 pretty much directly states that a strong enough heart can (with some conditions) survive even without a body to reside in, because Sora did it for literally the entirety of KH1's back half as well as Chain of Memories.

There are plenty of things to bitch about in regards to KH's plot (especially where KH3 is concerned) but the whole "death is meaningless" shtick was always pure retardation from people who forgot THE FIRST FUCKING GAME IN THE SERIES and what it establishes. If anything, it contextualizes what the heartless do as WORSE than death because at least if you die, your heart eventually gets reborn into a new person. Heartless are fucking STUCK that way until a Keyblade Wielder fixes the problem.
Anonymous No.717398719 >>717398972 >>717399118
>>717398470
>I'm convinced everyone who calls Sora stupid for his age either hasn't played the games or doesn't remember being a teenager.

Nope Sora is legit infantile and stupid. Look at Max GOOFY's son. During Goofy Movie Max behaves like an actual teenager he literally has a scene screaming "I'm not a little boy anymore!" Sora is the opposite he is that teenager who still hangs on to his inner child. And it looks awkward. Not to mention did you see Max's room in Goofy Movie that looks like a teenager's room. Now remember Sora's room in Kingdom Hearts 1 Sora's room looks like a Daycare with educational building blocks and stuffed toys and things like that. Sora is INFANTILE even for his age.
Anonymous No.717398804 >>717399031
>>717398498
>He doesn't even have a command menu
Are you dumb? His neutral special literally uses a Command Menu.
Anonymous No.717398858
>>717396226 (OP)
because that keychan costs more than the entire nazi lifespan.
Anonymous No.717398859
>>717398182
Doom is getting in because of the Mii Fighter. So that's on Nintendo's radar for the next Smash game. My only hope is that they don't go for the Doom Guy and Isabelle meme.
Anonymous No.717398960
>>717398675
death doesn't even exist in Kingdom Hearts. it's like FF7R where no one dies and death has no meaning because there are way too many retarded reality bending mechanism for bringing people back. how the fuck do you even die for good when there are endless clones and your soul can just travel bakc into a vessel, or some time travel bullshit can happen or your being can just reform because fuck you.

Nomura is genuinely the worst writer in the history of anything.
Anonymous No.717398972
>>717398719
>Look at Max GOOFY's son.
I'm going to ignore this entire paragraph because Max doesn't exist in KH and has literally fucking nothing to do with what we're talking about.
>Now remember Sora's room in Kingdom Hearts 1 Sora's room looks like a Daycare with educational building blocks and stuffed toys and things like that
What are you fucking on about? No it doesn't. It's got a few clothes strewn about, some wooden ships that look hand-built, a couple boxes and scrap wood (not "building blocks"), and some books scattered around near a desk. Sora's not 17 in KH1, he's fucking 14. He's gonna have some miscellaneous bullshit laying around his room.
Anonymous No.717398998
>>717398675
Death is meaningless in Kingdom Hearts. The first thing the Kingdom Hearts 4 trailer shows is Sora meeting a character who got killed and she explains that she's now in Quadratum a new world full of life. She should be a carcass yet she is still alive fresh as a daisy.
Anonymous No.717399031
>>717398804
that's not a command menu dipshit.
there's no menu there, it just cycles between 3 spells as you use them.
Anonymous No.717399118 >>717399548
>>717398719
>Not to mention did you see Max's room in Goofy Movie that looks like a teenager's room
max is a 15-16 year old in a modern setting with puberty issues
the only time we see sora's room is in kh1 where he's a stupid 14 year old island kid who spends most of his time fucking around on a cool tree fort island with his friends
Anonymous No.717399248 >>717399382
>>717398675
>Getting turned into a heart isn't death in the Kingdom Hearts universe,
That's the point you fucking retard, the laws of the setting make it VERY hard to kill someone in a way they stay dead.
>The major plot twist of KINGDOM HEARTS FUCKING ONE is that people can survive in someone else's body without a heart,
And it was shit then too! It's a bad franchise!
Anonymous No.717399347 >>717400965
>>717398165
>FF7R-3 can and will reuse assets so it's not that far off
That's why I said the other stuff about it might already being in production. Plus, unlike R-2 which barely used any of the areas of R-1, R-3 can reuse all of the area assets they want, especially the overworld. I'm just hoping there's not as many minigames for padding, I'd prefer things like optional superbosses. I hope we fight all the Weapons, including Sapphire, Jade, and Omega.
Anonymous No.717399382 >>717399436
>>717399248
>the laws of the setting make it VERY hard to kill someone in a way they stay dead.
No, they don't. You can still just shoot a guy with a gun until he's beyond the point of saving, they just don't do that because that's not what the game is about. What happens 90% of the time in the series is that their heart and body get separated through keyblade/darkness bullshit, which literally isn't death.
>And it was shit then too! It's a bad franchise!
It's not a bad franchise just because you dislike it and/or don't understand the setting.
Anonymous No.717399436 >>717399557
>>717399382
It's bad if there are no stakes which there never are because nobody is ever at risk.
Anonymous No.717399439 >>717399616
>>717396226 (OP)
It didn't? It was overwhelmingly well received. Literally everything on the planet will have a loud minority of objectors, probably people angry that Geno or Lip or some shit didn't get picked as the final DLC character
Anonymous No.717399469 >>717399605
>>717397664
Been a KH fan since KH1's release. What killed my tolerance for the series was the shitty gacha phone game. Nonsensical story aside, the KH games were enjoyable with great gameplay. Tolerated the console hopping to follow it, had fun, glad that eventually got compilations for future players. Tied X Unchained, got bored and dropped it. X's story being to vital to the series going forward killed my interest in KH3 onwards.
Fuck X. Fuck X Unchained. Fuck Union X. Fuck Dark Road. Fuck gacha. Fuck mobile games. Good riddance to Missing Link. re:Union X when?
Anonymous No.717399471 >>717399816
It was a gay ass trailer but Sora was a character people wanted for a long time
The only smash ultimate pick that made people mad and had zero defenders was Byleth
Anonymous No.717399516
>>717396226 (OP)
Take it from a Fortnite player; Disney sucks and people who like them should be shot into the fucking sun.

It's probably because of them we haven't gotten a Gundam collab.
Anonymous No.717399548 >>717399778
>>717399118
I thought they were all 10. No wonder Riku left, he was tired of building forts like a child and Kiri wasnโ€™t putting out either.
Anonymous No.717399557 >>717400421
>>717399436
You don't have to have characters die to have stakes, dumbass. The fate of the worlds themselves is at stake in literally every game. The inability to recover someone's heart due to loss of key personnel, even if they aren't technically dead, is never off the table. Again, you not understanding what the setting is doing doesn't make it bad.
Anonymous No.717399605
>>717399469
>re:Union X when?
Honestly, I fully expect the death of Missing Link to result in its plot either being integrated into KH4 or a low-budget side game like the handheld stuff, and that'll probably have some sort of solid plot recap on the shit that matters from UX.
Anonymous No.717399616 >>717399767 >>717399969
>>717399439
Objectively Sora's reception was average. Sora was better received than Kazuya and the Xenoblade sluts. However Sora was a failure compared to King K Rool, Banjo, and Sephiroth.

I don't see Sora making a return to Smash. Doesn't feel like Sora made a big splash despite supposedly being the most voted for character. And even then it felt like people only voted for Sora to see if Nintendo was daring enough to get him into Smash. With that novelty satisfied I don't see Sora returning.
Anonymous No.717399743
>>717396991
Don't worry they'll get shitty cloud versions
Anonymous No.717399767 >>717399956 >>717400097
>>717399616
Kingdom Hearts lost a lost of popularity over time
I think if he had debuted in Sm4sh instead of Ultimate it would have meant more, but off the back of a meh game like 3 no one really gave a shit anymore
Anonymous No.717399778
>>717399548
Not everyone is a sex-obsessed retard like you, especially in a game that's essentially a late-90s-early-2000s Disney film as told by Square Enix. Sora and Kairi are 14 year olds that just want to hang out and enjoy life and Riku's a freedom-obsessed dumbass who thinks a couple bottles of water and like four mushrooms are enough to sail the ocean blue.
Anonymous No.717399816 >>717400098 >>717400372
>>717399471
Speaking of the trailer itself it really sucked. Seeing Sora only show up to shake hands with Mario? That was weak. You can do so much with Sora's trailer so seeing something so bland was lame.

I wanted a trailer showing Sora collaborating with the Nintendo heroes to fight their respective villains showing Sora's camaraderie. Bonus point if they show Sora accompanies by Duck Hunt all the time to represent "Donald" and "Goofy" that would be great. But Sora shaking hands with Mario was so dull.
Anonymous No.717399873 >>717400090
>>717398309
>Kingdom Hearts has literally never once revived a dead character
The lore literally states that when you "destroy" a heart and a nobody, the original person is revived.

Do not give me any fucking bullshit hoop jumping about "DESTROYING A HEART ISN'T THE SAME AS KILLING IT!" or some shit like that.

Also, I'm still baffled about maleficent's revival, but that's a disney character, so I don't really pay it as much attention. A quick glance at the wiki states that she can time travel after riku "unlocked" her heart so I'm sure that's the excuse the writer's went with.
Anonymous No.717399891
>>717396226 (OP)
Given the timing, and his legacy with the N64 I was hoping it would be 007
Anonymous No.717399956 >>717400627
>>717399767
>Kingdom Hearts lost a lost of popularity over time
KH3 was literally the best-selling game in the series and the KH4 trailer has like 8 million cumulative views between the official, IGN, and CGInferno uploads. Hell, the Steam versions of the collections did so well that they were sitting at the top of the charts for like a full week at launch.
Anonymous No.717399969 >>717400203
>>717399616
Considering Disney is okay with Sora in smash I think he'll be in as long as Cloud and maybe Hero are in, and considering how loved those two are (at least by Japanese for Hero) Sora will still have a shot at future Smash unless Square Enix as a whole is off the table.
Anonymous No.717400015
>>717396226 (OP)
He's annoying to fight, but so is every DLC character.
Anonymous No.717400029
>>717396226 (OP)
KHfags are incapable of understanding what they look like to normies
Anonymous No.717400090 >>717401609
>>717399873
>The lore literally states that when you "destroy" a heart and a nobody,
A HEARTLESS and a Nobody. Not the Heart itself, dumbass. Heartless aren't literally hearts; in the case of Pureblood heartless they're literally just pure darkness that sometimes swallow hearts, and in the case of Emblem heartless they're basically a shell of darkness using a heart as a battery.
Maleficent's revival is a plot point I always forget about because it's genuinely weird and not given any attempt at an explanation until the mobage, so I'll give you that one. In KH2 it's obviously just meant to be a "don't speak the name of the devil" sort of deal, but I guess they had to go back later and attempt to explain it through some fucking insanely convoluted data world bullshit in UX. I'm not gonna try to defend that one because it's one of the few actual retcons in the series and it's retarded.
Anonymous No.717400097
>>717399767
Yeah that tracks. And overall the Kingdom Hearts series continues to have major flaws like...

Story is a mess. No ifs no buts this story is objectively a mess and a huge roadblock to any newcomers.

Gameplay is never consistently great.

Ran out of Good Disney Films.

With problems like these I don't see Kingdom Hearts staying popular. And it doesn't help that none of the hacks who keep working on Kingdom Hearts are being punished like Nojima and Nomura. Sales have stayed decent but I don't think Kingdom Hearts 4 will sell good. It may be a huge wake up call to executives at Square Enix that something "rotten" has happened to Kingdom Hearts and since KH is a pillar franchise for Square Enix its going to make executives angry if it doesn't sell grand.

You have to remember that if even Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth got disappointing sales like how Square Enix admitted then Kingdom Hearts which was always a weaker brand is bound to sell worse by default when you consider all its flaws.
Anonymous No.717400098 >>717400208
>>717399816
Mario shaking hands with Sora was cool, the "gay" part was when he flew around
Anonymous No.717400203
>>717399969
>unless Square Enix as a whole is off the table.
Squeenix has literally zero rights to Sora. According to an interview the only reason it took so long for Sora to get in was because Nomura was being autistic about whether or not he should try and make the Smash appearance Canon.
(Sauce on picrel:
https://www.khinsider.com/news/Gameinformer-Interviews-Tetsuya-Nomura-about-Kingdom-Hearts-4-and-Missing-Link-19452 )
Anonymous No.717400208
>>717400098
Even worse Sora in the game does not run he flies around when moving at max speed. I expect that from Magus from Chrono Trigger which is another Square Enix game but NOT Sora. Sora knows how to run.
Anonymous No.717400372 >>717400517
>>717399816
I really wanted Sora's trailer to show him getting into a race with Fox's Arwing while Sora uses the Gummi Ship. Like show Sora somehow pilot the Gummi Ship into the light speed rings from Star Fox 64 and end up in the Nintendo universe something like that. But whatever what's done is done. Once a character makes it into Smash they don't get a new trailer.
Anonymous No.717400421
>>717399557
>You don't have to have characters die to have stakes, dumbass. The fate of the worlds themselves is at stake
lmao.
Anonymous No.717400517 >>717400546
>>717400372
by the time of KH3 sora has anime brain damage so severe he's like 40 IQ.
I don't think he flies the ship. I'm convinced it's remotely controlled by chip and dale.
Anonymous No.717400546 >>717401195
>>717400517
please explain what makes sora stupid in kh3
Anonymous No.717400570 >>717400719
>>717397439
I don't give a fuck about that, I just wanna see Kairi's feet goddamn it! Pisses me off how they tease but never fully reveal them
Anonymous No.717400627
>>717399956
Yeah but the longer you make people wait for Kingdom Hearts 4 the more people age and start losing interest especially if people age into being middle age.

Making gamers wait too many years is not smart look at the new Elder Scrolls game. Don't make your customers wait so long that they literally age into a different demographic entirely. They won't have the same interest that they had like seven years ago.
Anonymous No.717400719 >>717400781 >>717400952
>>717400570
Kingdom Hearts characters have awful designs for their feet, too big and long. Not as big as Mario feet but still not good.
Anonymous No.717400781 >>717400949
>>717400719
They actually nerf the feet in every new game. KH4 Sora has normal feet.
Anonymous No.717400945
To be fair even the trailer was beyond gay
Anonymous No.717400949
>>717400781
They still look somewhat longish and flat. Its an improvement but this design is only for Quadratum. So Sora will change back to his normal huge feet. And I really hate Sora's new outfit so tired of Sora wearing black clothes. It's annoying.
Anonymous No.717400952
>>717400719
The huge feet are because sora was designed with parallels to mickey mouse
Anonymous No.717400965
>>717399347
Genesis secret boss would be SOUL
Anonymous No.717401013 >>717401074
DOWN B COUNTER
HOW CAN SMASH SURVIVE WITHOUT SAKURAI AT THE HELM
Anonymous No.717401059 >>717401163
>>717396226 (OP)
Disney tainting smash. KH was a good game but as a franchise is nothing special.
Anonymous No.717401074
>>717401013
I'm still praying that the next Smash game just makes counter a universal system mechanic so we can free up all those moves for better shit. Sora's in specific pisses me off because guard literally never works like that by default in KH. The whole point of Guard in KH is that it only does the deflection part, not any stupid auto-counters.
Anonymous No.717401163
>>717401059
Kingdom Hearts still has the best Action RPG gameplay mechanics but sadly even that Nomura fumbled because Nomura chose handheld games that could not stay true to these battle mechanics so the gameplay suffered.
Anonymous No.717401195 >>717401481
>>717400546
1. he no longer knows how to operate a computer
2. he thinks he's instantly friends with everyone he meets
3. His complete lack of social skills, bizarre speech patterns and weird mannerism indicate profound brain damage.
4. Unlike KH1 sora he never questions how idiotic the plot is, he just goes along with the idiotic slop exposition.
5. he's so retarded all he can do is spout retarded superficial platitudes that are objectively wrong like "a heart can exist anywhere even in data", "we'll always be together".
6. KH1 was smart enough to keep incompetant retards like Kairi out of danger. KH3 sora is not.
Anonymous No.717401481 >>717401758
>>717401195
>1. he no longer knows how to operate a computer
He didn't know how to operate it in KH2, either. He fumbles around on the keyboard until he gets frustrated and starts slamming the keys.
>2. he thinks he's instantly friends with everyone he meets
No?
>3. His complete lack of social skills, bizarre speech patterns and weird mannerism indicate profound brain damage.
Projection.
>4. Unlike KH1 sora he never questions how idiotic the plot is
The fuck are you talking about? He spends the entire game going "Can I go check the RoD already?" which ends up being the exact correct thing to do in the end. If anything, KH3's biggest issue is that everyone OTHER than Sora was actual retarded in this regard.
>superficial platitudes that are objectively wrong like "a heart can exist anywhere even in data", "we'll always be together"
How are either of those wrong? Literally the entire point of The Grid in KH2 and the entirety of Re:Coded as a game was to show that hearts can just manifest fucking wherever, given the chance. Hell, Pinocchio proved that in KH1.
>6. KH1 was smart enough to keep incompetant retards like Kairi out of danger. KH3 sora is not.
He didn't have the chance. Dude spent the entirety of the finale carrying the entire rest of the 7 lights on his fucking back.
Anonymous No.717401609 >>717401790
>>717400090
Maleficent wasn't revived, riku didn't kill her she was knocjed back i to the past by darkness she used the time machine and the way it works is people have to remember you, the whole scene in kh2 where the 3 fairy trying not to remember her but then ended up doing so was what brought her back from the past into the future.
Anonymous No.717401758
>>717401481
>Dude spent the entirety of the finale carrying the entire rest of the 7 lights
-Needs Help just to kill Org members
-Gets KO'd from Xion lightly falling on him
KH3 sora is a pathetic weak retard.

the entire "prophecy" is just badly written garbage. KH2 Sora would have ignored it and just solo'd everyone.
Anonymous No.717401759
>>717396226 (OP)
it was supposed to be the Chosen Undead from Dark Souls, I swear to fucking god
Anonymous No.717401790
>>717401609
In fact I believe that the only way tine travel works in KH is that your heart has to have touched another person's heart enough for that heart to remember it as point of reference, and obviously maleficent touched the 3 fairy ma hearts in some way since they are from the same world