>>717400053 (OP)>literal resurrection magic exists>still can't heal a few broken bones for some reasonBRAVO BLIZZARD!
>>717400053 (OP)>Illogical, wheelchair construct feels silly (why not just make a levitating chair?) and pretty obviously just exists to fill Blizzard's weird ass diversity quotas.>>717400123>Logical, fits the modern setting, works to convey Xavier's "the most powerful mind stuck in a frail/vulnerable body" shtick.
If you die as a cripple do you at least get to run back to your body while being a ghost or do you have to crawl all the way from the graveyard?
The crux of this issue is less the wheelchair (which is egregious) but more the idea that the people making it are not putting any thought into it or simply donโt care about the setting, its rules, or all of the shit that exists in it. Like imagine you have a world where you have magic and other miraculous shit and the first thing that people think of is to just put a character that is crippled in a neon wheelchair. I mean you could have prosthetics, healing spell, a fucking little horse to ride on. Why a wheel chair? Same goes for other shit as well.
>>717400206a chinese hacker working the koreans
>>717400053 (OP)>i don't think you know how legs work in real life, so i'm putting your character in a magical bullshit wheelchair
>>717400123>TopImmune to stair
>BottomVulnerable to stair
>>717401062Bottom don't need to face stairs, he has holocaust beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNX2nauLmOc
>a wheelchair is unbelievable in a setting that has dragons and magic
grow up
>>717400053 (OP)why is it floating
what's the point if its floating
why is it a ghost
what the fuck is going on at blizzard
>>717401321>Chair is floating>This means it doesn't touch the ground>Has wheels>Is a ghost chair Its retarded. If this is a magic setting then why not heal him, why not use a better flying object? Why drain mana continuously rather than levitate an object? Its fucking stupid in every form.
>>717401321suspension of disbelief can only go so far retard
>>717401395If you look at the actual rules of the wheelchair, it gets even more retarded.
It's like some sort of indestructible device that makes the wearer as mobile as an able bodied person.
>>717400053 (OP)Why does it need wheels?
>Blizzard can't get any woker
>Purple hair trans dev: hold my onions beer
>>717400053 (OP)Does every character get this? Seems more comfy to sit on a floating chair than run around.
>>717400053 (OP)Stop giving money to Blizzard
whats more cucked at this point xiv or wow
>>717400123Xavier has had a ton of cool looking wheelchairs, some not even wheelchairs but just floating contraptions.
>>717400053 (OP)This legit feels like mockery at this point its like they're saying
>HAHAHAHA even in the world of fantasy you'll always be disabled
Should just be a throne since it floats anyway
>>717401515WoW, but I never played XIV and I have literally 0 interest in that game. At least I can still enjoy shitting on what WoW has become, whereas I have capped apathy levels towards XIV.
>>717401321Why does he need a wheelchair if healing magic exists you fucking retard
>>717401587The average leftist woketard is only interested in seeing characters with superficial "victim" traits like being black, disabled, or gay etc. If a character doesn't have any of those traits then they complain about lack of representation because, again, that's all they care about.
>>717400976>the 2nd most powerful and knowledgeable wizard vs an ungabunga shaman from a literal caveman tier culture where wizards smash rocks together and ask nature for help or aggressive demon magic are the only magical powers available
>>717400053 (OP)why is the wheelchair missing textures?
>>717400774to be fair, there's a ton of other characters who are missing limbs, eyes, ears and shit and they also aren't being healed
>>717400053 (OP)of all the things to hate about WoW, some nigga in a wheelchair isn't one of them.
>khadgar is the mage of mages, the most power
>when crippled literally can't be healed by magic or have arcane exo legs, nope gotta have a magical floating wheelchair
sure jan
>>717401321I have nothing against a disabled character in a fantasy setting using a magic chair to get around.
But why the fuck is the magic chair wheelchair shaped and not throne shaped or something else like that?
>>717400053 (OP)This sort of shit makes all crippled people look like clowns to the rest of the world
its ok when the japanese do it
>>717402424>noo you can't just fantasize about having a cooler wheelchair you just can't mmkay, only I should demand how crippled characters should be like in video games
>"YoU cAn'T hAvE wHeElChAiRs In A fAbTaSy SeTtInG"
BITCH
>>717402506see? not even your fabricated thread with all the pics gathered in advance can unclwon this stupid shit. We have been called blizzdrones shit eating faggots for 2 decades and that one image is still true to this day.
>>717401321You can just tell when a wheelchair is added as cynical """"representation"""" rather than being an organic creative decision. Same with token black or token crippled characters.
>>717401343>what the fuck is going on at blizzardDangerhairs, trannies, and onions, and anyone else gets fired
Remember when that rat fuck Asmongold said that the culture of sexual harassment was why the game sucked?
>>717400053 (OP)>tip over the ghost chair
>>717400976I wanted to say its an existing model that was modified, but these posts blew my argument up.
They actually made a new model for a wheelchair just to make it a floating arcane construct. I mean, I guess it can be used elsewhere now with an actual texture and whatnot but geez Blizz.
>>717402530A character in a wheelchair trying to play at being a martial is always going to feel kind of dumb. You just lose too much range of motion. If you're really set on having a character in a wheelchair you might as well just let them use a crossbow and strap flamethrowers or some shit to the chair. Though if you're going that far into the magitech stuff you might as well just go with a spider tank design, more range of movement and you can do more interesting things with it.
If you're making a character in a wheelchair but aren't actually interested in exploring the limitations of being in a wheelchair then it's pretty obvious you're just making a disability fetishizing vanity character.
>>717400053 (OP)Wowza who's the slut next to him? She looks like she takes orc dick.
>>717402530That's cool, I'm assuming there's a penalty for all his combat rolls considering he's a cripple in a wheelchair trying to engage in melee combat?
Having disabled characters is fine but atleast make them interesting. Having it just be some normal dude but in a wheelchair is boring
>>717402591I googled "Discworld wheelchair" and Tumblr was the first result. What exactly is the issue?
>>717403150No, he just cuts the die in half midair so he rolls a natural 21.
>>717401413they see me floatin
they hatin
Even some wheelchairs irl have better designs
are wheel chair people lobbying for this shit because they waste lots of money insisting wheel chair accessible curbs in bum fuck nowhere.
>>717400621Your wheelchair dies when you do
>>717403367That's a proper apc
So you can suspend your disbelief for literal resurrection magic, parallel dimensions, time travel, dragons, shrinking magic, engineering feats that may as well be magic, but you can't suspend your belief for an ethereal 2026 Ford F150 with optional surround-view camera??
>>717403374They wouldn't care to be represented. No one actually cares that much for representation but crazy folks that project themselves into shit. This is entirely the same thing that always happens: someone on the staff or some consultant group gets paid to think up ideas to broaden the appeal, so they do silly shit for inclusivity and representation, regardless of how absurd or ill-fitting it may be.
>>717403374It's modern companies being based, they look disabled people straight in the eye and go
>you are a cripple, you will always be a cripple. Even in the fantasy worlds we sell you will be a forever maimed monstrosity that sticks out like... like a cripple. Not even mr beast can help you
>>717400123Isn't there a mutant that can literal heal all wounds named Elixir or something? Why can't he just fix this nigga already
If he can make a magic chair, canโt he just basically make a magic exosuit that moves his legs for him and keeps him stable?
>>717403548It is the most important character trait he has. That would be like if Rogue stopped killing people with her touch or Cyclops didn't have to wear protective glasses or Nightcrawler look normal or they made Storm white
>>717400316Why doesn't Xavier simply levitate himself everywhere?
>>717403567He could even drink an Elixir and heal all his wounds too
>>717402186Like that orc who's been in a wheelchair since Cataclysm yet nobody loses their dog-fucking shit over it.
>>717403607If being in a fucking wheelchair is his most important character trait then he's a shallow fucking character lmao
>>717402186They usually find a way to side step it or the ability to heal it doesnโt exist in the setting.
>>717403290does this really make disabled people feel good and included? I feel like if I was disabled, the last thing I would want to be told is that my wheelchair is literally so fundamental to my being that it would persist across every incarnation of myself. like, are these people not more than just their wheelchairs? it feels so demeaning. but idk, I'm not a cripple.
>>717403374I've played wow with multiple wheelchair bound or otherwise disabled people (including one guy paralyzed from the neck down) for decades and I can say with authority that all of them would be dismayed to be reminded of their real world circumstances in the name of "inclusion"
like forget about the fact that they don't care about being "represented" or whatever, just think of how because of this they have to hear all this wheelchair discourse and all these wheelchair jokes ad nauseum, people talking about how pathetic it is and how dirty they've done Khadgar - when the last thing they want to do while playing is think about their damn wheelchairs
>>717400053 (OP)>Could've made cripples look cool by having him sit in a floating magical throneWhy do they need to have the wheels?
>>717402140Healing magic is healing magic, why hasn't anyone cast a healing spell on the orc so he can walk again?
>>717403613Because he has Telepathy not Telekinesis
He can affect people's minds, not physical objects
>>717403673>he's a shallow fucking characterAnon... he's a western comic book character. That wasn't in question.
>>717400053 (OP)Ramps? Where we're going we dont need ramps.
>>717403695>does this really make disabled people feel good and included?That isn't its purpose. Its purpose is to make The Companyโข ยฉ uฯu เถ look Double Plus Good
>>717403714Cripples cant be represented by floating magic thrones, they literally have to be wheelchairs so they feel included.
It's not about being cool or even making sense, it's just about virtue signalling.
>>717403695Being disabled is something unfortunate, but not some sort of racial pride thing, idk why woke retards think that disabled people want to play disabled characters, there's nothing else they want than to walk again, its' not like being prideful of being gay or a nigga, its not sexuality nor race, its just the product of an accident
>>717403802It's crazy that there are deaffags who wants their kids to be deaf too, like it's some culture and healing them is genocide.
>>717403548Xavier got healed multiple time, he just keep falling down stairs or something. iirc once it literally made him EVIL to walk again.
The funniest thing about the DnD combat wheelchair is that it's so overtuned, able-bodied adventurers would be insane not to grab it if they want to min-max.
>>717403290What prevents me, an able bodied adventurer, from using a combat wheelchair as an indestructible shield?
>>717403548he uses it as an excuse to keep his head at ass level in the school all day. And skin tight thong and body paint is mandatory for girls.
>>717403891Cultural appropriation debuff.
>>717403854KEK
Its just Marvel always finding solutions to decades old problems and then making them go back to the status quo at the end anyway
They do this shit all the time with all of their heroes, some more than others
The greatest victim so far is Spiderman as always, but I guess Xavier sometimes gets screwed a lot too
>>717403871it's always the same shit with those lliberal game additions. I remember when they tried to limit the "racism" by allowing all crossbreed races to be loyal good, and there was no reason to not be half illytid just because of the stats.
>>717401413>pi backwards r KOTOEBRAB
Just make a cool wheelchair. Why is it so hard?
Jaina couldn't have passed him a elemental? All of Kirin Tir couldn't throw together something a little bit more fitting?
That's all that bothers me. An orc in a fucked up scrap wood chair is fine for an NPC but a major character could have something more fitting.
Like couldn't have a cool staff that sort of bends around and he sits and leans on with floating books or crystals, like one of those banana chairs that were really popular years ago? Couldn't he j
.ust cut. Sentry in half and he travels on that
You know what would've been a good character focused way of doing it? Like Dingo from Zone of the Enders 2. He's basically dead being kept alive (and forced) by his orbital frame and its always fun with him fighting his stubbornness about it. Something like is a cool was of actually showing the impact on the character too.
>>717403695My little sister customises her wheelchair with all sorts. It's the first thing she's always done when she's gotten too big. She's had spiked wheels, mecha parts and currently she's been trying to make it look like old French furniture. Anything to try hide the fact irs an ugly wheelchair.
>>717400053 (OP)I am sure there is nothing more a cripple wants than being reminded he is a cripple in his favorite game.
>>717403850What
Do they think they are like some sort of mole people that live underground or something
Being deaf is not a fucking racial trait
>>717401321If you can make a spectral floating chair why would you give it wheels? It can float.
>>717401312This one actually seems okay, the design seems appropriate rather than copying a modern real life wheel chair, and since it's an actual physical thing it at least makes some sense - non-magic users would use it.
>>717404035https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaf_culture
It's probably the same as with faggots, when sucking dick is your only personality trait.
>>717403695Only the blindly woke ones who believe that their disability is a core part of their identity and that they should never strive to conquer said disability.
So basically the same sort of batshit insanity like those deaf people who would refuse surgery or hearing aids to grant them a better quality of life because "muh blind culchur"
I don't wanna play a character with scoliosis or ADHD or the mild foot deformity that causes me pain if i walk too long.
Why do actual cripples (and for some reason deaf people) feel the need to make their flaws an integral part of who they are in all ways?
I'd like to think I'm more than my defects, but these "people" can't even imagine defining themselves any other way.
We used to have disabilities in fantasy settings.
We called them "curses".
>>717403548Isnโt he walking in the most recent comics with him
>>717404168>not wanting to play as someone in a comachillest game ever
>>717404168You have to understand, Anon.
For these people, a disability is something that gives them extra Victimhood Pointsโข
The more Victimhood Pointsโข you have, the greater your social standing amongst your peers
The best among us according to these people is a deaf dumb blind gay transgender brown muslim woman with vitiligo.
>>717400206im sexy and i know it
>>717400053 (OP)>be biggest most important mage in the world>but legs stop working>instead of a floating fucking throne, an enchanted chair that walks like a horse, or just god-floating around, conjure a dinky-ass floating wheelchairI don't even have a picture that adequately conveys the sheer disdain I have for the absolute retard behind this character design decision
>>717401312>>717404101>This one actually seems okayBrother his fucking legs are dragging along the ground it's not a wheelchair it's two wheels and a board to sit on. Is he powering it Flintstones style?
>>717404101>why would you give it wheels? It can float.Because then you wouldn't know he is a special cripple that needs attention, he'd just be some lazy mage that likes to fly around while sitting down.
>>717400123canonically, who changes his diapers?
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>>717403850They're against giving cochlear implants to kids born deaf
>>717403290>in a game of wheelchair rugby or basketballahh yes my favorite pastime in a fantasy setting
>>717400123notice that one is on the ground.
What the fuck is the point in having wheels if its flying.
>>717400053 (OP)A ghost wheelchair?! LMAO
>>717402506You can't compare both. This guy in the manga has a racing car wheelchair. Might as well play Deja Vu.
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>>717403730sorry for party rockin'
>>717400053 (OP)Imma make a bold assumption here but I think if disabled people were given the choice they would choose not to be disabled.
>>717401321Warcraft is a setting with mechanical prosthetics and exo skeletons. Yes its fucking retarded to have a magical pink wheelchair that flies when all those exists, even the damn prosthetics can be made of magic.
Its literally all purple pink for some fucking reason. Its not done genuinely, its a stupid virtue signal for some dickhead to pat themselves on the back for worthless piles of pathetic backwards racist lying worthless attention whoring trash like you faggot.
>>717400053 (OP)Performative inclusion
>>717400053 (OP)minus points male
minus points for white
>>717402319Khadgar is only using it because it was made by Modera and the physically old but mentally 50 year old mage wants some old lady pussy. It's like you people didn't even play the game.
>>717404929>0:09tfw you have the sudden need to rotate during a fight
>>717404929I like the camera shaking and the two lesbos rotating without moving.
>>717404929jesus christ this looks so fucking bad. how do you go from wrathgate to this?
>>717400053 (OP)I thought this was a fucking spongebob videogame from the thumbnail.
>>717401413HOLY KEK! This is foul.
>>717405216It turned out that diversity was indeed not a strength
>>717403374Blue haired freaks need to constantly find new ways to signal their virtue.
>>717403548Wasn't he able to walk again after he took some serum to suppress his mutant powers and then became unable to walk again after he stopped taking it or was that just some movie retcon?
>>717401515WoW because it's just a constant fall from grace.
WoW subs are higher than ever btw
Keep coping chuds
>>717403613I really hate dishonest faggots like you.
>>717403290>couldn't even center one of the wheels properly
Wow am I ever glad I've never given that company a dime.
>>717406629>you can pay for subs with wow gold.Or are you counting the vanilla servers?
>>717400053 (OP)can you dispel magic in WoW?
can you dispel the wheelwight?
>>717406738I wish I could say that. What a colossal waste of money, like gacha levels...
>>717403427where's the a?
>>717401321>"How dare you question my slop! S-stop having standards! G-GROW UP!"
>>717400053 (OP)Who cares
No one plays WoW for the story
>Be wheelchair user
>See this
I play games to ESCAPE reality, not to be reminded of it.
Hey Blizzard! Why not go all the way? Where's my enchanted fucking colostomy bag? How many slots does it have? Can my avatar go to physio too so that its muscles dont atrophy as badly? Can it cost 20,000 gold and not get covered by insurance? Will my avatar pick up a disability check? How much? 80 silver a month? Sounds REAL WORLD accurate, that's what you're going for right? How about pain medication? How can my avatar pick herbs to make medicines? Oh it can't? great that sounds just like a NON FANTASY GAME.
So do the NPCs try really hard to act like I'm not different? Have you introduced a sympathetic smile mechanic when I manage to get up a curb by myself? Can I sue a guild for not having stairs?
Retards. I cancelled my sub 10 years ago and you make me glad I've never gone back.
>>717404970>"Ackchyually.... blah blah. It's like you people didn't even play the game."You might as well tell everyone you are a "midwit" redditor that has less social skills than a 5 year old. I can practically hear your neck beard rustling from here.
>>717403891The fact that it's shitty homebrew that wouldn't be allowed at most tables.
whatever i think it's kinda funny
wow isn't the type of game to look in for sanity anymore anyway
>>717403896https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k-PxM53VQ4
>>717401413>Thought it's just a floating wheelchair>It actually rolls around in the airHoly fuck someone please nuke blizzard already
>>717403725Because he is super duper old
>>717400053 (OP)>>717400123>it's yet another """organic thread""" rerun episode
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there is a conversation you can catch between Alleria and Khadgar where it's revealed that he uses the wheelchair because Modera made it for him and Khadgar is a shy little bitch in love with her
that might be an in-universe reason but it still doesn't justify this shitty addition by the devs in the first place
you also have to ask yourself why a powerful Archmage like Modera would believe Khadgar needed a wheelchair like that
>>717404970Okay, why modera build this piece of shit instead of anything better?
>>717407303/wowg/ gets angry about these threads
>>717400053 (OP)>Crippled archmageJust find archpriest/archcleric and let them cast heal. FUCK THIS DIVERSITY DOGS!
>>717402140>said ungabunga shaman slapped Alliance fucking shits all over AV back then
>>717402754no you're right. it was used elsewhere before this. cant remember which character though
>>717400123>literal wheelchair in a modern setting with wheelchairs>this is the same as a transparent hovering magical wheelchair in a land where all your disabilities can be healed
>>717400123bro really thought he was cooking with this one
>>717407457At this point, just use a non-wheeled chair. Hover and wheels are complete redundancy.
>>717401321Yeah it is, why not just ride on a dragon at that point.
>>717403548>knows some random ass obscure mutant>doesn't know that if Xavier heals his body he looses his mind powers
>>717401321>a wheelchair is unbelievable in a setting that has resurection spells, necromancy and literal miracles available yes.
>>717401321This is like masectomy scars in a magical setting. This is to score points, not make a believable setting.
>>717411038>resurection spellsthis is only a game mechanic
I can't remember anyone that has ever been normally res'd in the lore without any ill effects like DKs etc
>>717410887But he had his minds powers before getting in the wheelchair right? Wait, what kind of mutation triggers when he becomes unable to walk? lol
>XIV
>character gets crippled
>"I'm sorry, our chirugeons did all we could but..."
>WoW
>character gets crippled
>"I refuse your technologies. I learnt how to live without my legs/arm and I don't wish to relearn."
Why is this?
>>717400053 (OP)why is it a wheelchair if it's not ground bound?
why is it a GHOST wheelchair?
why is it pink?
>>717403854>Xavier got healed multiple time, he just keep falling down stairs or somethingFucking hilarious if true
>>717402530>>"YoU cAn'T hAvE wHeElChAiRs In A fAbTaSy SeTtInG"Actual reddit speak. How did it get so bad on 4chan?
>>717401471could've just changed it to FOREPERSONS
>>717413103In WoW they could also use time travelling to change the past where they do not lose their limbs or regrow their limbs back with healing magic or regeneration...
>>717401321Sadly, someone else already brought up the car in a fantasy setting, so instead I'll just point and laugh at ya.
>>717400316>why not just make a levitating chairor just use a mecha which wow is full of
>>717413103>trans fantasy>multiple dimensions, flying robots, spaceships and interplanetary fights>character gets crippled>gets placed in a cuck wheelchairLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
It's funny how retarded tranny fantasy cum slurpers are
>>717402530Good bait. Unfortunately, this particular setting is a) a satire, b) have its magic barely controlled and, (also as a result of the previous statement) is, basically barely more controllable radiation with wider range of side effects, and c) actively moving from magic to technology with magic things dying out, being exiled, being neutered or outright "demagicked" into something less unusual and "stable".
Which is why despite liking those books as stanalone things i don't like the way setting goes roughly since the beginning of the second half.
I have a friend, who wanks to things like "rifles make magic obsolete", but he is a poor (financially) and up until recently had had some egalitarian views of "everything should be made for everyone, elitists suck" until finally starting to get some taste and some understsning of reasons some things are considered to be bad and distasteful. He still thinks, that AI actually makes things good through making "drawing" available to people, who are too lazy to train the skill, despite being somewhat of an artist himself.
>>717404929this is a pretty good cutscene for a 2001 game, desu
just disregard the fact that it's made in 2025 and all is good
xal must have fucking demolished that pelvis
>>717416703who would win
azeroth or xally feet
>>717416772zombie elf feet are too strong
can smell them from here
>>717416812every new cinematic with her has her feet front and center, makes sense
stop replying to yourself maye
>>717416703Nah, she's more after young human warriors
>>717416924more women need pointy toenails
>>717403725Can't heal old age.
>>717400053 (OP)Khadgar uses wheelchair because at moment he got hit by Xal'atath magic, it altered his memory by replacing his ability to walk with image of Xal'atath feet.
>>717417005khadgar used to look a lot older
>>717404304>not just chilling out in your tower while an arcane construct mindlinked to you handles the face to face
the wheelchair is retarded but it was conjured up by archmage modera who has a crush on khadgar, so i'm glad that the faggots that thought he's gay got dabbed on and got to watch them screech
>>717401413Iโm riding spinnaz
Iโm riding spinnaz
It donโt stop
>>717417016Shameless footslut ugh
I hate her
>>717417016>footslut takes your ability to walk
>milking the fans with MoP classic now
>>717417412she knows how to keep you on your toes
>>717400053 (OP)Why even give it wheels if it floats? Just give him a little eggman pod at that point
The only wheelchair you'd catch me in is a John Deere lawnmower.
>>717400053 (OP)>Lord Khadgar, Keeper of the Eternal Watch and master of the mystic Citadel of Nethergarde, has sensed a dark power gathering around the remnants of the rift that lies within the Black Morass. He believes that a new Orcish invasion is imminent, and has urged the Alliance to act. Look how they massacred my boy
is it worth breaking both my legs on purpose so i don't have to work again?
>>717401515Explain what you think is cucked about XIV. The shitty character that nobody fucking likes voiced by a shitty tranny that nobody likes? WoW has been pushing a very clear agenda for over a decade at this point.
>>717401321yes because it's so mundane that the only reason it could exist is pandering
it shatters the suspension of disbelief
>>717420291it's a trash dead game with a dogshit story now. fags like you need to stop glazing a literal turd
>>717400774No it's not. By the way you talk like a faggot and you're retarded.
>>717401321The problem isn't the existence of wheelchairs. Any civilization which has advanced to a certain point will have invented something similar because it's one of the simplest and most effective ways to allow someone crippled to maintain a degree of mobility.
The issue is the blatant diversity checkbox pandering Blizzard does. Why the fuck is a powerful mage conjuring some retarded ethereal wheelchair? Even setting aside the fact that bionic prosthetics canonically exist in Azeroth it does not make any fucking sense for someone like Khadgar to be slowly floating around on his magical pink wheelchair which looks about as archaic as you would expect one to look if it made for some poor peasant.
>>717404929>GLORIA>HONORIFICE>PRALIUM FACIOhttps://youtu.be/YScwnhOWyDQ?si=XlC4cfVo8UTOHA4J
Watch it with this playing for extra laughs.
>>717401413wtf i am buying wow because of this
>>717401413>THERE GOES MY HERO> >WATCH HIM AS HE GOES
>>717406951To the people that have made this,people that had never experienced anything more negatively impacting them than a mild inconvenience, surrounded by nothing but support and constant validation for even the most insipid statements and choices, disability is a fashion statement.
>>717402530You also can't have a dick and be a woman.
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>>717401413they see me rollin'
they hatin'
>>717420838dude the only reason this chair exists is because she made it for him as she as a crush on him
and that's the only reason khadgar even accepted it. he even says so in his stay a while and listen dialogue
>>717416305Who's going to pay for his new spaceship body? You? The one and only nation capable of producing such things nuked itself and then had a zombie apocalypse to finish off those not yet nuked.
>>717421089>it's okay because the lorebreaking idiotic retardation is actually just simping
>>717400053 (OP)Why would you make a glowing pink wheelchair instead of of riding a magic normal chair or a carpet or in a cauldron or on a broom or-?
wheelchair jokes are high-IQ
>>717421148didn't say it's ok, the chair is still retarded, but that's the only reason he is even in it. a cute archmage made it for him and he accepted it
>>717404929Black bitch just joined the company and got promoted to the leader of HR even tho feminist has worked at the company for 40 years (grey hair). Tri-disability (black, blind, no arm) is more impressive than letting your youth dwindle into nothing for your job. Sorry not sorry.
>>717421136FF's world is even more ridiculous and where pretty much everything goes, you have fags fighting with swords and shields while flying mechs, so in that context a wheelchair is even more retarded
>>717400053 (OP)If you can make a chair levitate then why bother making it a floating wheelchair?
To virtue signal that you have a hurt feefee and should be pitied and babied?
>>717400053 (OP)>women like winners, Halligan
>>717421303>retardA large number of fantasy settings contain swords, magic and advanced technology.
>>717400053 (OP)Khadgar - US Realm
>>717402530>boss is defeated by walking around him
>>717421303>flying mechsThe nation that could produce those had been destroyed in an apocalyptic series of events that wiped clean their industrial capability and majority of their populace. Their capital looks like the Boneyard in Fallout. Any other flying mechs are relics that need to be excavated from deep underneath the earth and 99% of the time will not function. You speak like flying mechs are commonplace in FFXIV, but they fucking aren't. Both the people that could make them and the further know-how in regards to their creation had been lost, because that know-how was given to them by ancient demigods from a different dimension. That are also are all dead now and we personally kill some of their remaining highest ranking scientists. The plot of FFXIV would have made uncle Ted cream his pants seeing how much advanced technology is reviled in it and laid to waste.
Is there any fantasy franchise asides from maybe 40k that isn't extremely soft and full of faggotry?
It feels like this genre is full of homos who cannot comprehend the rule of cool and could never hope to design compelling action elements. It's seems like only Asians get this memo.
>>717421668>40k>not full of faggotryYou have an entire faction for which faggotry is a way of life, 40kfaggots should be the last fandom trying to cast stones at anyone, especially seeing how you suck off the most abusive company in existence. Enjoying those primaris marines?
>>717421496>>717421635I like how you faggots always try to come up with these copes even though FFs world is literally known for jumping the shark when it comes to fantasy
In a world with flying mechs, space battles, alien technology, time travel and inter dimensional travel, you find a wheelchair acceptable and totally not out of place
Actually kill yourself, dog
>>717421668if your game is rated by ESRB or PEGI, it is automatically soft and full of faggotry. The only way to avoid this is to get a AO rating which is the equivalent of being banned on PS5/XBOX/Steam.
I do not care for Khadgar. He insists upon himself.
>>717400053 (OP)If you play WoW this what you deserve
>>717417016>>717416924>The only good think from current wow is evil elf footslut.
If you give "Blizzard" money you DESERVE to eat shit
>>717421668>comparing warcraft art with hearhstone fan artCucks have lost the plot
>>717421790>copesYou got exposed as a retard talking out of his ass. The world of FFXIV has no advanced technology in it beyond hot air balloons and a couple of vessels that are unique handmade masterpieces, given to the most wealthy and important people of the world.
>>717400053 (OP)WHY DOES IT HAVE WHEELS!?
>>717421895Tranny, your dogshit dead game's endgame hub is literally a knockoff CP77 Night City
Kill yourself
>>717422047>he madThat technology is not native to the world and the portal to it opened up a couple months ago at most. I guess this means everyone in Eorzea must have a smartphone now.
>>717422120Yeah man, keep telling yourself that, in a "game" where you have faggots fighting with a sword and shield while riding a knock off cyberpunk bike
It's equally retarded, but you're a sunk cost faggot looking to make excuses because you don't like it when your tribe gets attacked for being shit
>>717421789>mention 40k>spergs come out of hidingGeg who could have predicted this. I have no vested commitment to that franchise. It just appears to be the one of the only western fantasy series that has any semblance of appeal for normal men. Even Darktide seems fucking gay with their disproportion amount of boss ladies NPCs.
>>717400305>can make any magic device for a cripple>make a wooden wheelchair that floats
>>717400053 (OP)why did leftists think this was a good idea
>>717422215>where you have faggots fighting with a sword and shield while riding a knock off cyberpunk bikeNever happens. There's no mounted combat in FFXIV. I'm just mocking you for being a hysterical shitposter that can't stand being corrected.
>>717422338Leftists are hell bent on destroying everything that white men like or used to like
>>717422290>say something stupid>get told off>Merely pretending.jpg
>>717422341You're trying really hard to justify the unjustifiable. Sunk cost fags like you are the worst, literal shit eating cattle
The wheelchair in WoW is retarded, especially for someone liek Khadgar
A wheelchair in FF is equally retarded if not worse, because that franchise is known for jumping the shark when it comes to fantasy
You're just mad that your cope doesn't work
>>717402530The reason this image works is because the character gives off crazy energy. The artist knows how ridiculous a wheelchair is, but the personality of the character makes them determined to do it anyways. They're still useless. But they will shout and swing their sword (without ever getting close to people).
>>717421136Godbert? More like Godbert
>>717401515Anyone intelligent knows 14 ended with the death of the endsinger. Wow ended with wrath so anyone still playing is unsalvagable. All the big MMOs are on eternal beach episodes now.
>>717422470I don't need to justify anything, you have no idea what you're talking about. You can repeat your sacred mantra about "coping" as much as you like, but the world of FFXIV has no neurosurgery, they can't even treat congenital heart disease successfully with their magic. If your legs give out the most they can do is put you in a wheelbarrow and push you along, which is exactly what happens to Arenvald. If you knew shit about the game you're talking about, you'd know of it, but you don't.
>>717421790>cornered and shut down>resorts to fallaciesOkay, thanks for making it easy I guess. Concession accepted.
>>717422659You're right, I don't know anything about that shit game, I know the franchise and how ridiculous it gets at times, so in that context, a wheelchair is even more retarded
You being a shit eating faggot trying to justify it is the funny part. I admit it's entertaining that you don't see an issue with it
>>717422406>make a point>focus on the semantic besides the point>get a (you) addressing your reply>actually ur lying!baiting or sperging
>>717422778>I don't know anythingQED
>>717422843Concession accepted.
are there actual dei troons itt defending this bullshit
>>717422875You may have the last word, I will permit it. Off you go now.
>>717422930i haven't checked, but i would assume some do
they put it in the game
>>717422954Shit eating weebs like you are known to concede fast
>>717422969insane to look back at how massive wow was
we should have never let woman into our domain
>>717403290>please kill me
>>717407354Modera is a woman and women are genrally retarded
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>>717400053 (OP)Don't care. Still killing Dimensius.
>>717401471>overseer managing slaves: GOOD>overseer misgendering fellow overseers: BAD
>>717404929>sword and lance clash>hear distant voice>"all in existence, bend to my will">get forcibly rotated
>>717404936>russian is a culture>swedish is not a culture
>>717424094I wonder why they didn't give him one of those ancient style masks and they went with the tiki style
>>717421303>where pretty much everything goesHealing is thoroughly explained in-game if you level a healer. Healing does not magically regrow limbs and close wounds, it only accelerates natural healing processes, of which there is a limit. Can you naturally put together your shattered shins? No? Then neither can your local white mage or scholar.
There are several cutscenes in which healing is applied to a character to stabilize them, and are then promptly told to fuck off and rest because despite the fact you're no longer bleeding out, you are stilled fucked.
Arenville got his fuckin lower spine shattered. You don't 'heal' that in the story's setting.
>bro just give him some magitekMagitek what? We aint got prosthetic spinal columns, brother.
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Pathfinder is the only game I have ever seen do accessibility devices well.
>>717400053 (OP)dude....what is this shit lol wow is unrecognizable from vanilla/BC/wotlk
>>717403891>What prevents me, an able bodied adventurer, from using a combat wheelchair as an indestructible shield?Nothing. In fact it's the optimal way to play because it's so ludicrously overpowered. The best way I saw someone put it is to strip away the wheelchair itself and make it a sword, for example.
So you show up to a game and speak with the DM and demand he let you start with a homebrew sword. This sword is indestructible except for 3 consecutive critical hits. This sword lets you hover at will, raises your move speed to 30 if it's less than that, does not need to be wielded in your hands, you gain advantage on saving throws to be knocked prone, gives you a bunch of free skill points, and can be upgraded to give it better attacks, ranged attacks, free spell casts, allow you to walk on water, get automatic cover from ranged attacks, and armor bonuses. it does not need to be attuned and carries over into any wild shape or shapeshifting effect on you.
I'd get about 3 items onto that list before the GM would tell me to get the fuck out of his game and never come back. It's obscenely overpowered.
>>717401515XIV because the playerbase use third party mods to go around with blacked fetish gear and tattoos
>>717425723They do the exact same in WoW, anon.
>>717425775Proof? I've seen screenshots and stuff of the XIV crowd doing but i've never seen anything about modded WoW content
Ignoring the fact that it doesn't make sense in a world with healing magic, why the fuck would they design it like a normal wheel chair if it's some mental construct shit? It levitates, it doesn't need wheels.
>>717425723did they ever implement that block feature that allows you to hide the whole character?
>>717400053 (OP)They still haven't executed Jaina?
>>717425963In FFXIV? Doesn't just block the whole character, it blocks their entire account. But yes it removes their entire player models.
Sometimes I feel the urge to resub for a single month to blow through the last 3 expacs I missed, then I see this shit.
>>717425990girlbosses never die, wow has built up many that nobody likes
>>717401321It being a conjured one is honestly really stupid than a normal one.
In the future people will cut off their legs to fit in.
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>>717400053 (OP)Ok let's say he just can't be healed for some reason. Couldn't he just... levitate himself with magic? Why chair? Why wheelchair?
>>717403673Its a juxtaposition between his mind and his body. And frankly I wouldn't expect someone raised on kikeslop to understand that.
>>717424460>pozzed slop, west: >:(>pozzed slop, japan: :O
>>717425850You can't be this retarded.
>>717400053 (OP)I'm on my own 3.3.5a server and what is this?
>>717404929>Do not make her a martyr>Proceeds to whiteknightAre you fucking kidding me? And Gmod youtube poops had better animation than this in 2006. You can't make this shit up.
>>717410656It's all about how things are presented. not about the actual substance. (don't question it) I'm a critical thinker btw!
>>717401321Its unbelivable preciescly BECAUSE of magic. Grow your brain up.
>>717404929>Almost every cutscene since Dragonflight has had unique animations >This one is back to shitty manipulation of existing animations Fucking embarrassing.
>>717428080bro people were laughing at SL and DF cutscenes too, every expansion has a few awful in game cutscenes
>>717400053 (OP)>>717407303>>717408180So is /v/ caught in a proxy flame war between two different autistic retards from a /vg/ general?
>>717428206What DF ones did people laugh at?
>>717400053 (OP)>>717400123https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0x_O11HaAw
>>717428734Inshallah the Horde is peace.
>>717428734I thought this leader loved war, was there character development they just didn't show? I like how they just flip-flop between love and peace whenever it's convenient.
Is this why people want to just go back to the original WOW games that includes the base, Burning crusade, and Wrath of the lich king? Because this is fucking ridiculous. Imagine if they allow people to host their own private servers. Anything to get away from this shit.
>>717428734OK guys... what if... Fantasy world with savage tribal races... but get this... HUMANS = BAD??? I feel a raise coming...
>>717429068vanilla has ridiculous longevity, i canโt believe the numbers it still pulls after a decade of private and classic servers, blizzard should try an old school retail version with the content from retail and the slower single target play style of vanilla
>>717429068There isn't a single fantasy IP that hasn't been raped by DEI. But WoW went to shit with BC.
>>717429170can we make a church evil too? *metzen rubs hands jewishly*
>>717429581The scarlet crusade?
>>717403854Evil people walk normally, so I kind of get it.
>>717403695People who are weak and bitter gain power by presenting themselves as victims. So sane and respectable people will simply want to be cured of whatever they're going through. Jackasses want to do "reverse bullying" where they can go to random places and sue small town family ran businesses for not including accessibility options they can't afford and have them look like the bad guys for doing so while everyone pats them on the ass for being "so stunning and brave for standing up to evil oppressors!"
Another example of this is most autistic people want to be "cured" while others say that fixing autism would be genocide. The latter group want to somehow be viewed as a weak and a different type of people who deserve free money and commendations for being so helpless, but also want to be viewed as "odd geniuses" who are somehow superior to everyone else at the same time.
>>717400053 (OP)Why a rickety old wooden chair.
If you can make literally anything out of magic you can surely imagine something better than that, right?
Whoever summoned that shit is evidence the type that can't visualise an apple in his head.
>>717403335tryna catch me ridin nerdy
>>717403229>What exactly is the issue?tumblr
>>717403613He could, but he specifically wants to appear normal. That's the entire point of the X-Men, to make mutants appear normal and tolerable to real humans. He uses the chair to show that he's a regular grandpa.
You knew that already though you retarded fuckwit.
>>717417040A curse, not old age.
>>717406736he's disabled, anon. give him a break.
>>717428734this nigga forgot warcraft 3 thrall
>>717400053 (OP)a fucking floating pink wheelchair
>>717403548If he walks again he'll lose his designated parking spot in front of the Xmen tower or whatever they live
>>717400854https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KO8OPejaXY
>Uses his magic to create a wheelchair
>Uses his magic to levitate the wheelchair
Why not just levitate normally?
>>717431642because how would you know he's disabled then?
>>717415637Or supervisors. Which sounds wat better than forepersons.
>>717431781Why would he be disabled in a world where seemingly all injuries can be healed?
It's also why it should be your duty to play a Cleric if there's some mentally ill wheelchair faggot in your DnD group, though there hopefully shouldn't be one.
can they give khadgar a daughter already so he can be killed off and replaced by her
>>717431891because it's a character made for brownie points. making them competent would defeat the purpose.
>>717400053 (OP)That's fine. WoW has grown and doesn't need your patronage!
>>717401452why does any spectral mount need anything?
>>717410887literally why are you making shit up, he just got shot in the spine at some point, that's literally it
>>717431891Same reason that Tauren Paladin's wife died during child birth, drama.
>>717404929Why does she run like she has a stick up her ass?
>>717403752>a western comic book characterjudeo-western
>>717433815That's an oxymoron.
>>717403729Nta, but he has that now.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Charles_Xavier_(Earth-616)#Powers.
>>717400053 (OP)lol why do cripples trigger white people so much?
>>717434234they have the IQ to notice patterns and jewish schemes
>>717400053 (OP)OH NO NONO AHHAAHAHHAHAA
>>717400053 (OP)The idea of a disabled wizard using his powers for mobility is a neat concept, but why the fuck would they conjure an ethereal wheel chair when there's so many more interesting ideas?
>Flying>Golem mech>Astral projection so they don't even have to be there physically>Magic legs>A Palanquin carried by undead thrallsLike come on, man.
>>717434234Are the white people in the room with us right now?
>>717434234White people are the ones pushing this shit, wdym?
>>717434234nigga who the fuck do you think is adding all this shit to games?
it sure as hell isn't disabled black trans women.
>>717403548It's canonically part of his mutant ability. If he loses his powers, he's able to walk.
>>717435402boy did i jump ship at the right time
>>717435557>canonicallyworthless for capeshit
>>717431891>Why would he be disabled in a world where seemingly all injuries can be healed?Gameplay does not equal lore.
>>717433919i mean the first comic book superheroes were created by jewish immigrants as anti-nazi propaganda, and after the war to sell gentiles false role models and fantasy slop to distract powerful autists from participating in the real world
it is jewish, but not targeted toward jews. a poisoned contradictory term to describe a poisoned culture
>>717416220>mages in mechs/power armorDoes any fiction do this (I don't care about your obscure WH40k faction)
>>717433657Literally who?
>>717436156Then it's an inconsistent world and garbage.
>Wow is so piss there's now a second exodus of content creators, this time for Run Escape
How's this keep happening
>>717436761>Run EscapeAaaah, how nostalgic. When I was young, all my classmates who didn't know English called it that.
>>717400774It is transparently obvious to anybody with a brain that this disaster began with Blizzard deciding that they wanted to force a wheelchair into WoW and then working backwards from there. They didn't decide they wanted Khadgar to be injured to give the story some emotional weight or to take him out of the picture for a plot development or to show the power of an adversary. They decided they were going to put a major character in a wheelchair because Karen from the diversity writing committee panel is in a wheelchair and wouldn't it be great if she felt represented. Also she likes pink
It sounds like terrible writing because it is
>>717400123Why don't they just give him his yellow hover chair??
blizzsissies, our response?
>>717404929>this company used to be renowned for its cutscenes
>>717434881you're overthinking it
even just an ethereal floating throne would be badass, but these insufferable faggots just had to choose some clunky medieval approximation of a wheelchair instead
they deserve to be hung
>>717404929Who would have thought shittier cutscenes than Old Republic's would ever be in the cards for WoW.
>>717402186They tend to have prosthetics or magical implements. A flying pink wheelchair is a very awkward execution of that.
>>717403662That was done as a joke and a nod to AV. Galv's an aging orc that's been rushed a few too many times by Alliance bypassing towers and is now being pushed around like a sack of potatoes in a wheelbarrow. It was a bit silly and highlighted him being a crotchety stubborn old bastard. I don't believe Khadgar's arcane wheelchair was intended to be funny. It is funny, which is why it keeps getting brought up and mocked, but I don't think that was the goal of the writers.
>>717400774>>717436947>>717402586This was.
>>717438253Eh. New area is tiny. Can't fly in phase diving. Incoherent world quest design. New hub isn't a hub at all. 2/10 you tried.
>>717401515Both.
>One just recently started this faggotry and diversity trend (WoW)
>The other had this faggotry forced onto them since the reboot of the game and they've ran with it ever since(FFXIV)
>>717438589NTA but so people have been saying since 11.2 arrived on the PTR?
New area is just some samey floating rocks with a spooky skybox and the "new hub" is literally just them reusing Shadowlands slop.
>>717436245Warhammer fantasy
>>717401515WoW by far.
WoW is full on white men bad transgender pride shit.disability pride shit
XIV is just "wow i heckin love diversity don't you love tacos??"
It's the same shit, but on different levels. The former is the full escalation woke cringe we've been dealing with the past 5 years, and the latter is the early phases from like 2012 where naive white girls brabble about how vibrant and pretty this non white culture is
>>717402530That guy is a barbarian, they don't have much tech or magic. He's also survived being a barbarian to this age, he's extremely skilled.
i hate the concept of wheelchairs in fantasy, but trying to figure out why i hate them
i don't usually hate 'modern' real world stuff in fantasy, even if theyre just reskinned into older tech: airships, steamboats, guns, tanks, helicopters, motorbikes, sometimes cars (mechanized wagons). Why do wheelchairs break my suspension of disbelief
>>717400976Drekthar's case is him getting old and frail and Khadgar's case is him having shattered bones, I assume.
There isn't much to heal with Drekthar, but Khadgar can. This being said, Drekthar should have formed some sort of earth elemental mecha instead.
>>717401452He's making fun of every non-wizard cripple. It's just Khadgar being a dick.
>>717439189A cripple wouldn't be going on an adventure to save the world. They'd be staying in their hometown and cobbling shoes or something.
>>717438715Pretty much. I hopped on the ptr to check out the tier sets and raid weapons. Underwhelming overall.
The entire new area is jagged floaty rocks with bfa sand on top and bfa/sl models. Taverish isn't even a legit hub, no ah no trade no bank. They took the time to fix up the place and make it feasible as a hub but just....didn't. They just didn't. I can't fathom it. It's so bad and they went through the trouble of doing audio log bullshit. For this.
>>717439189There's always a better option than a run of the mill wheelchair thrown in for easy brownie points with people who get offended on behalf of cripples
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>>717439558>Taverish isn't even a legit hub, no ah no trade no bank.THEY LITERALLY JUST REUSED A SHADOWLANDS DUNGEON FOR A HUB AND COULDN'T EVEN ADD ANY HUB FEATURES TO IT
>>717420962It makes me fucking seethe, these pink haired retards treat my every single fucking day like it's a points gathering exercise. To them I represent an easy game modification they can tack onto their bullshit resume whilst I have to sit there looking at a FANTASY WORLD and see the SHITTIEST part of my every day added next to words like "inclusivity" and "respect".
I wish assholes who do this kind of thing and act like they're doing it for me would eat dog shit. Nobody asked them to do this. Nobody wanted this. They're doing this in lieu of creativity because these talentless pieces of shit couldn't come up with anything interesting, so they just found a way to make my misery and every day challenges their trophy.
dead game for browns and trannies
>>717426909do you want your broken legs dangling, swaying back and forth with movement, and feeling the weight of gravity on them at all times?
>>717439880worse than that anon. they actually added on a few extra districts and modeled out some more interiors and rooftop gardens. they actually put in extra work instead of just copy pasting it. AND THEN STILL DIDN'T BOTHER.
if youre disabled why would you want to be able bodied somethning you are not and will never be
id kill myself
does this really make white people feel good and included? I feel like if I was white, the last thing I would want to be told is that my whiteness is literally so fundamental to my being that it would persist across every incarnation of myself
see the problem
>>717400053 (OP)They have a point
>>717440590there are characters in lore that get brought back to life via various forms of resurrection magic, and even quests where you participate in it, prevent it, and even talk to spirit healers. Anduin even uses it in a cutscene IIRC.
It's very much a canon thing.
>>717440221>broken legsI thought he was paralyzed?
>swaying back and forth with movementSure why not? Beats a chair that's for sure.
>feeling the weight of gravityNigga it's magic levitation. What makes you think you'd feel weight or gravity? Besides, are you implying sitting in a wheelchair somehow won't make you feel weight or gravity?
>>717441010>i thought he was paralyzedWas he paralyzed? I honestly got to max level in this expansion and just thought his legs were broken or something. It's hard to process a lot of the stupid shit that goes on in this expansion because of stupid shit in previous expansions.
>Magic levitationFair point, but the way levitation looks has always made me thing that the legs were just free dangling for whatever reason.
Guess I'm just retarded, My bad.
>>717400206Sorry for party rockin'
>>717441010he reversed his own age, surely he can reverse his broken legs
>>717425850https://files.catbox.moe/q1xef0.png
This is pretty bad.
It truly is a travesty what wokeism has done to this hobby.
>>717400053 (OP)this is the most retarded thing I saw 8n a video game
>>717436987Hollywood has a fixation with reelizm. But I mean, random unnecessary fantastical elements do tend to take the average theater-goer out of the story. I do think that's true even if it's disappointing.
>>717402530>>"YoU cAn'T hAvE wHeElChAiRs In A fAbTaSy SeTtInG"you have to go back
>>717437380don't worry, we cookin' ha-haha
>>717416924Weโre working together now, right? That means I can fuck her in an inn room in void arrakis, right?
>>717401413>the wheels roll>they animated the rotation and rigged it to the model and skin
>>717409363reminder that this one post destroyed all wokeness everywhere
>>717409363the word youโre looking for is verisimilitude like what you donโt have when some big lipped bantu nigger is dressed like a viking or knight