Thread 717406005

>Dead or Alive adds swinsuits
>Everyone mocked it
>Every other fighting game start doing
>Everyone cheers

DOA knows what everyones wantes and no one defend it

>>717406005 (OP)
>DoA has stage transitions
>Everyone mocked it
>Every other fighting game (including 2D fighters) start doing it
>Everyone cheers

>DoA has easy inputs
>Everyone mocked it
>Every other fighting game (including 2D fighters) start doing it
>Everyone cheers

>DoA has tag team
>Everyone mocked it
>Every other fighting game (including 2D fighters) start doing it
>Everyone cheers

That franchise was seriously done so dirty, it was decades ahead of its time but people shat on it. I always preferred it to post tekken-4 where people would block string/pokes for most of the match.

>>717406005 (OP)
DOA does what fightan gaymes DOAN'T

>>717406005 (OP)
It simply means that there is industry resistance to Dead or Alive and they've succeeded in killing the franchise by exerting influence over it that the devs were forced to change eventually killing itself.

Crapcom and Bamco don't want Dead or Alive to succeed.

a shit game that can only market itself with swimsuits is not the same as a good game that also has swimsuits

i haven't played fighting games in decades, what are some examples of this?

First off, DoA has Marie and Honoka which kills most people's perceptions of it.
Then you also have the fact that DoA doesn't have nearly a memorable male cast so your average faggot can pretend to play them while not so secretly jerking off to the female cast. DoA has no Akuma for the edgelords, no Ryu for the boring I only play male main characters, and etc.

That being said, most people who actually play fighting games don't fucking want wallbreaks and stage transitions. The other points are true though, it's got easy access, costumes, and other shit but people didn't gravitate towards it. We're in some weird dichotomy where it's still not okay to be fanservice oriented while still celebrating fanservice stuff. The audience has no idea what it truly wants but DoA wouldn't be the first fighting game to end up that way.

>>717406814
but enough about T8 and SF6

>>717406814
This is also true. DoA absolutely frontloaded the fuck out of its DLC costumes but hilariously became "industry standard" when SFV used to do it.

>>717406005 (OP)
It's such a shame that Koei Tecmo / Team Ninja kneeled and added that stupid black censorship crap in Dead or Alive 6. If I remember correctly, they even tried to teach the west about female bodies and how breasts work with physics and they got ridiculed for that as well.

I hope they don't hate the west too much because of that and are willing to come back and teach us again.

>>717406839
>DoA doesn't have nearly a memorable male cast
Ryu Fucking Hayabusa
Chicken Noise Guy
Chicken Costume Guy
Reflective Teletubby

What a terrible bait.
>Marie and Honoka which kills most people's perceptions of it.
Nobody gives a fuck about Marie and she is far from the first thing you think about DOA. Honoka I sort of get since the fatso is just Ayane but shorter and pinker hair.
>doesn't have nearly a memorable male cast
Ryu Hayabusa, Bruce Lee rip off not to be confused with Tekken's Bruce Lee rip off, Hulk Hogan rip off, Jackie Chan's drunken master rip off, motherfucking Zack,
>no Akuma for the edgelords
Kasumi clone and Raidou
>no Ryu
Ryu Hayabusa

Only reason Team Ninja hasn't made a new one is because they fired all of their competent game devs after the "core values" failure of 6, and they are presently a gacha+Souls/Sekiro knockoff company that cannot even make Ninja Gaiden by themselves now.

>>717407294
They are also far to successful with whatever DoAX is called now.

>>717406974
>>717407294
>Doa6 was censored
No it wasn't lol

>>717406550
Yeah, DoA was done dirty. From what I played DoA2 was fucking great, 5 and 6 were good, but "oh no the bouncing boobs, my sexualizing women" while men in there were also half naked in certain costumes...

DoA, VF and SC deserved more love.

>>717406979
>Reflective Teletubby
Best costume

>>717406839
>First off, DoA has Marie and Honoka which kills most people's perceptions of it.

Ah yes, the retards. The same retards that did the same with SC6 with Talim and Ivy.

I remember trying Talim online and retards would refuse to fight me. But with whatever character there was no issue.
Stupid sheeps.

>>717406814
Street Fighter 6 is not a good game.

>>717406005 (OP)
DOA has always been unfairly maligned, the way that people talk about the games online nowadays you would think that they were literal hardcore pornography and nothing else. DOA 2-4 were extremely stylish technological marvels and were well liked when they we current.

>>717409507
I still like them.

>>717409582
Same here, I just wanted to point out that the whole pearl clutchy idea of DoA being a pseudo porn game began with 5 and its drastic monetization. Even the original Volleyball spin off was well received

Why would I play any DoA over Tekken? They were always chasing the success of Tekken from the start, even in Japan

>>717410342
Have you ever played DoA? Countering and arenas are among the main reasons.

>>717406550
This. It also sucks that you are labeled as gooner and never taken seriously if you say DoA was your main game.
I mean I'm not going to deny that I'm also in it for the boobas, but literally every other fight game does the same thing too, and they are cheered for it.
This reputation crippled them so bad that they had to (unsuccessfully) take a step back for DoA6 to clear their name, while it was a shitty decision I still pity the devs.

>>717406005 (OP)
Swimsuit Zooey is the canon version, nobody gives a shit about her other skins even in the original browser game.

>>717406839
Ryu "FUCKING" Hayabusa is more hype than any dude in Street Fighter and only matched by Kazuya in Tekken

DOA is based for having butt-bump battles.
The fightan gaems industry should've fully explored alternate combat modes to spice things up. Shit, even the homos would be on board, imagine Ken and Ryu shooting hadokens out their ass and butt-blasting each other. That's just funny to imagine.

>>717410752
I always thought it would be nice to have some of the male characters in the Xtreme games. Obviously it's only made for gazing at the women but I think it would eliminate any negative perception of the franchise if they just had the men be in the game as well (just make it possible to avoid them to prevent players from accidentally looking at Ryu's beautiful hot muscles while they are trying to focus on the ladies)

There's lots of comedic value to get out of Ryu sitting around in the resort with his arms crossed trying to act like he isn't having a good time. Or other stuff like
>Jann Lee trying to show off for all the girls but Leifang is the only one who pays attention to him and he hates it
>Eliot being surrounded by women
>Zack being a massive pervert
>Hayate desperate to beat Ryu at the games just once

>>717406550
SF6 has blatant jiggle physics too now and nobody gives a fuck

>>717411051
Zach was in DoAX 1

>>717406814
All fighting games are the exact same shit to me.
All your petty little quibbles about muh frame data muh juggling inputs combo strings or whatever you niggers argue about amuse me, as if anyone who has a life actually gives a shit

Tekken 3 was the only good fighting game ever made.

It comes with familiarity of an IP. Like Marvel Rivals has excessive fanservice but since it's Marvel, nobody bats an eye.
But Stellar Blade? You are literally causing the genocide of women.

>>717411216
Don't think Marvel Rivals didn't have five million articles about it daring to portray the female form. It turns out the solution to it is to just ignore it as these people have zero power

>>717406550
>>DoA has tag team
>>Everyone mocked it
>>Every other fighting game (including 2D fighters) start doing it
This is not true.
Tekken did it first with TTT, DOA just copied it.
this just tells you how bad DOA fags are when it comes to how much they actually know about Fighting Games.

>>717406005 (OP)
>>717406550
People don't like it because the RPS block/throw/hold system is too much for FGC autists.
I mean, I get it. It basically guarantees that unless you're the most observant motherfucker in the universe who's memorized everything at every angle, you're never going to guaranteed get it right. But it also makes them look like fucking pansies who just can't hack an actually fluid and unpredictable game(which is probably not far from the truth.)

>>717412645
Dead or Alive 2 released 3 months after Tekken Tag Tournament. I doubt they got the idea and copied it within that timeframe.

>>717412645
>t. balding 300lb kekkenfag

>>717411210
Don’t care about the opinions of scrubs

doafags have to be the most copium huffing fg fanbase there is

>>717413324
God she’s so fucking ugly

>>717413368
forgot your honoka

>>717413324
I noticed you didn't refute a single thing OP said, while justifying his post. SFsubhumans should be shot.

>>717413389
I don't care about Honkers or Marie, for me it's Kasumi, Ayane, Helena, Lei Fang, Kasumi, Tina and Krishtie.

>>717406005 (OP)
The amount of cheers this shit got from the crowd during the stream. Pathetic fucking hypocrites.

>>717413460
doa swimsuits are just shitty headswaps of already samefaced characters on completely unsexy generic bodies. what is there to be said, moron?

>>717413585
WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?

>>717413641
she's french

>>717413585
Think you misspelled Tekken 8 there. Also if you think SF6 is a good looking game in any way you are beyond reasoning. The only good looking character in SF6 is Mai and that's because you can tell SNK were breathing down Capcom's neck to not make her into a mutilated disproportionate freak like all the others.

>>717413641
>doafag's mind is shattered upon seeing a face that isn't literally copypasted

Bandai Namco and Crapcom had every reason to push DOA out of the scene.

I bet if they made SF/Tekken volleyball they'd be trained seals clapping and coomsooming.

>>717413807
>ugly characters are good because…they just are okay!!!
lol
lmao even

>>717406005 (OP)
It's the subtle difference between being primarily a fighting game with elements of softcore dress up and being a softcore dress up game that also happens to have a fighting game attached. No one wants to have to die on that hill.

>>717410467
What's funny is that they can't course correct even if they wanted to. They took ESG scores and implemented an internal "ethics department for global audiences".

Their latest Dynasty Warriors has toned down all the women and inserted gay flirt text with other male officers.
https://archive.ph/Lrs3G

They're gone, don't buy Ninja gaiden 4 or Nioh 3.

>>717414463
Looks fine to me. NG4 will not have cute ladies but it's not made by Team Ninja and it's published by Xbox so it's to be expected.

>FGC hates DoA
>SF finals are mostly Mai mains
KWAB

What a bunch of hypocrites

>>717406005 (OP)
your twitter picture says most people not everyone btw

>>717412645
Doa2 did better and TTT2 copied its mechanics.

>>717414964
DoA 2 was fine, but DoA 3 wasn't that much later and far superior. It's amazing that they were part of the same generation.