Thread 717415508

New Starcraft RTS . Anyone playing?

Not me but I'm vaguely interested in seeing how it performs.
It didn't look interested when I was looking at it.

>>717415508 (OP)
Oh yeah, that was a thing

>>717415508 (OP)
>checks steam reviews
ayyy lmao

RTS is the genre most deserving to die

Following the immediate announcement it sounded like bland but a soundly designed game (ie. listening the developers talk about the importance of single player): it was clear it wasn't going to be a game to revive the genre or anything, but I considered it possible I might play through the campaign or something. But after footage started coming out, it was revealed to be simply terrible where it counts. Completely weightless combat/controls, etc. I don't know or care if it has some cool innovations or interesting campaign mission designs or whatever, because if the moment-to-moment experience isn't good enough, I'm not going to bother. I'd rather play something like WarCraft 2.

>>717415508 (OP)
buy an ad tim
or did you run out of money already lmao

>>717415508 (OP)
Starcraft sucks.

>>717415508 (OP)
(Text:Green) White man genre
(Text:Green) No white man on cover
Smells like jolly good california

>>717415508 (OP)
Still looks like a mobile game.

>>717415508 (OP)
Starcraft 2 gameplay but worse with a story from Diablo 3 told through repulsive looking characters in a game with uninspired visual design.
I'm not an audiofag, I can't comment on the sound/musci part of the game.
I'm thinking no thanks.

i was interested until i saw that it was a moba

>>717415508 (OP)
>single player rts
Quit this meme
Rts are a multiplayer genre

>>717415508 (OP)
Oh wow, another game with the Blizzard / Overwatch big fat paladin armor glowshit aesthetic. How exciting.

>>717419181
Fuck off faggot. If it has no SP I'm not even going to look at it, and that's the prevailing opinion.
People come for the campaign and some of them stay for the multiplayer.
>but what about muh Korea
Outlier, doesn't count.

>>717419181
Fuck off esportsfag

>>717419181
The reason the genre is dead to begin with is developers feeding into this mentality.

Id be more intrigued if the factions were actually interesting. But nope, humans, robots, and demons.

>>717419540
>>717419617
>>717420146
Look at all the shitters seething kek

>>717421270
It's truly baffling that in 2025, some designer went
>angels
>demons
>humans
and called it a day. An RTS about carrots vs cabbages vs onions would be more creative.

>>717419181
Well, luckily for you this game was made with e-sports first in mind :^)

>>717415508 (OP)
It looks really cheap. The artstyle really is something out of a mobile game.

>>717415508 (OP)
>How can we make StarCraft 2 but somehow even more corporate and bland?
lol
lmao

Tempest Rising ate Stormgate's lunch and rightfully so.

>>717421912
Meanwhile, it may not be rts but atleast fucking songs of conquest has distinct factions. For fucks sake its not the 90s anymore where shipping a game with 4 different characters that play the same is acceptable.

>>717422518
CnC clone vs SC2 clone.
Not looking good.

>>717415508 (OP)
no

>>717415871
why

>>717420146
there isn't a single fucking rts outside of stormgate that tried to target compfags over casuals

>>717415508 (OP)
Why are there ugly women even in RTS games now?

>>717415508 (OP)
So glad they waited out any hype and momentum they had so the game can release without anyone knowing and die, leaving rts genre firmly dead in the ground, this is my favourite episode!

>>717419008
>moba
it's not. It's literally sc/wc hybrid. Also, only the campaign/coop mode has heroes

>>717419181
Wait, they made this game single player only? OHHHH NO NONONON HAHAHAHAHA

>>717415508 (OP)
>STORMGATE Campaign One: Ashes of Earth
>Campaign One
That's very optimistic kek

>>717427350
No, they didn't. That anon is retarded and so are you

>>717427631
Not as retarded as making an RTS in the year of our lord 2025 LMFAO

>>717415508 (OP)
I was excited for the game, and yes I backed it on Kickstarter, but the open beta told me everything I needed to know about the game in the worst way possible. From the earliest screenshots that they released, everyone talked about how ugly the game looked, then the beta came out and those complaints only grew louder as more people got their hands on the game. But Frost Giant doubled down and tried to justify the look of the game. Now, only recently did they relent and completely redo the look of the game, but it's too little, too late at this point. Game devs are going to learn that the "no, players, your opinions are wrong" mindset is not going to work. I'm open to giving the game a second chance if it actually gains some traction and gets popular, but it already looks like the game is DOA. Horrible management and that damn beta ruined this game - it gave a very poor first impression and ruined peoples' perception of it before it even released.

Does Steam refund players if they get caught in a pump and dump like these devs are trying?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2012510/discussions/0/597408128295966845/https://steamcommunity.com/app/2012510/discussions/0/597408128295966845/

>>717419008
I hope this is a troll

>>717427852
It's not a bad idea in general, but Stormgate is clearly not the way to do it. People at least claim that they want RTS games to come back. They claim that they're tired of all the MOBAs. And especially since Blizzard has given up on Starcraft and RTS as a whole, there is PLENTY of room in the market for a successor. Stormgate was primed to succeed in that sense, but the beta was awful and the game looks like monetized dogshit. It is possible to bring RTS games back - there just needs to be a good game to do it, and this isn't it

>>717427982
>"no, players, your opinions are wrong"
when the fuck did they do this. They have been changing and updating shit based on feedback from beginning to this day, that was the whole point of early access, even if it just made every retard seethe about an unfinished game being unfinished

>campaign 1
LMAO

>>717428490
I'm not going to waste time digging for old Frost Giant statements, but it was around the time of the beta when everyone was complaining about the graphics and how the game looked like a cheap mobile title. They pushed back and defended the look of the game forever with no clear indication that anything was going to change about it. Then, they quietly got rid of the old art director, brought someone new in, and redid the look of the game (as much as they could at this late stage). THey were never upfront about acknowledging how bad the game looked, which is particularly baffling since behind the scenes its clear they knew there was a problem since they ended up replacing the art director and improving the graphics anyway. They should have just said that from the start

>>717428713
I'm still not seeing why you are bitching. Even if some PRguy tried to do some damage control, they did redo this shit eventually. This isn't like diablo3 where the devs straight up mocked the fans who were complaining about the colorful graphics while also never changing it

starcraft is lamest rts

>>717428464
No, it's not a bad idea, it's a terrible idea. The RTS comeback shit is the same as the Arena Shooter comeback - it's a small handful of people that are very loud about it, but then when a game launches they pick it apart and/or don't actually play it. It's never good enough because it's not the exact same game from 1999 that they don't even play anymore anyways.

My theory is RTS/Arenafags are just lonely dudes who grew out of their hobby, but they never moved on, so they go through the motions, looking for something that is going to make them feel like a kid again, but it obviously never comes because they've changed and so too has the market. So they sit around and fill their days with complaining about modern video games and act smug about what video games used to be like it's their identity.

>>717429164
>arenashooterfag wishes rts games were dead as his genre
AoE2/4, SC2 and WC3 are still popular
there is also a steady stream of RTS remakes and lower budget RTS games coming out, there are just barely any new big budget RTS games

>>717428904
Trying to gaslight your playerbase into thinking that your cheap mobile game doesn't look like a cheap mobile game isn't damage control. It's the opposite of damage control. It's telling people to not trust their lying eyes and that their opinions are wrong, which are just not statements that go over well. If they were going to redo it anyway, why not just tell people that from the start? "We hear you and we're working on it" is a much better answer in that context, especially if they really were planning to change it.

>>717416012
>it sounded like bland but a soundly designed game (ie. listening the developers talk about the importance of single player)
gookclick is inherently anti-single player

>>717428490
>when the fuck did they do this
when they doubled down on keeping the dogshit marvel artstyle + pic related, tard

>>717428904
>Even if some PRguy tried to do some damage control, they did redo this shit eventually.
no, they didn't. Why are you lying? They only changed the look of infernals, everything else got either AI sloppified or unchanged.
Oh right, you're a damage control shill.

>>717429567
Not really. It would be fair to say that Age of Empires 2, a 25 year-old game is still fairly popular given its age, but the rest of the games in that series are dead as well as the genre. Just like with Arenas, the RTS market does not want new games, even if they say they do - they want Age of Empires 2 remastered and they already got it.

>>717430950
no anon, arena shooters Are dead
AoE2 and AoE4 still have 10-20 thousands of concurrent players on steam all the time and they are still recieving updates and dlc. We don't know SC1/2 and WC3's numbers cause blizzard doesn't show them but it's fair to assume that at least SC2 also has ten+ thousands of concurrent players considering that it's easy to find matches in it. Also bunch of other rts games all have thousands of concurrent players, AoM, AoE3, CoH2/3, DoWs, etc.
by compariosn Quake Champions has a couple hundreds, and the others are pretty much dead completely.

>>717432867
They aren't even top 100. To put it in perspective, there are more people playing games like Russian Fishing 4 and Stalcraft X (not to be confused with Starcraft, another dead game). RTS and Arena Shooters are just dead genres.

>>717415508 (OP)
Why the fuck would I do that?

>>717434056
>dead genre
>VN
>racing games
>SP shooter
>Arena shooter
>VNs
>Auto Battler
>Moba
>Beat em Up
>Point&Click Adventure
>Puzzle games
all dead, fucking grim

>>717435608
>>717432867
Quite frankly, I can only enjoy a genre if it's popular.

>>717432867
>We don't know SC1/2 and WC3's numbers cause blizzard doesn't show them
BW hits 25k+ during Korean peak hours every day.

>>717430734
?
Starcraft has a widely popular and well-regarded set of campaigns.

>>717435608
Nothing of value was lost
>>717436092
That's cool, but multiplayer games pretty much depend on other players to function normally.

gookclicksisters... it's over