Which game has best orks?

the one were Orks are basically just reskinned humans because most of the portrayal of Orks in media is a racist allusion to black people

>>717416696 (OP)
40k ORKZ IS DA BEST. DEY IS PROPA ORKY.

the one where orcs are an accurate portrayal of black people

>>717417568
orcs weren't based on niggers, niggers just happened to behave like orcs

>>717416889
you mean british people

>>717416696 (OP)
nothing will top shadows of war and shadows of mordor.

>>717417505
YA GIT

>>717416696 (OP)
Goblin Walker
Goblin Conquista
Goblins on the March: Breed All Humans!

>>717417889
porn has ruined your brain.

>>717416696 (OP)
Whichever one gives me a strong warrior wife Orcess of course

>>717416696 (OP)
>Another wc orcs vs wh orcs thread.

Its really hard to decide mostly because both orcs have different role in their setting.

Warcraft orcs are more complex simply because they have bigger role in warcraft settings thats why they have more complexity during story.

Meanwhile warhammer both 40k and fantasy is mostly around humanity fighting aganist outside forces and "Greenskins" are nothing more one of many types of enemies humans have to fight with. They dont need to be that complex.

>>717417701
you mean roadmen

>>717416696 (OP)
Warhammer, easily
>Retarded
>They sound like the UK's equivalent of white trash
>No matter how stupid a weapon or a vehicle is, if they believe it works then it fucking works.

>>717417701
Nice rent free, lad.

>>717418417
orks are literally based off of british people.
pay attention to the conversation.

>>717416696 (OP)
Orks? Nah gimme gobbo sluts!

>>717416696 (OP)
>TES Orsimer
>literally the descendants from a walking pile of Daedric shit

>>717416696 (OP)
Orcs are always my go to race in anything that has them because they change drastically from setting to setting and typically keep the "grug that goes head to head with dragons armed with a stick" which I like. I liked Warcraft orcs before they just made them parallels to humans and are no longer "conan the barbarian, the race". It is a surefire way to make your fictional races boring when you boil their culture down to just being like the humans, but they look different.

40k orks are my favourite orcs, theyre just there for a good time, I like that attitude, makes for a good enemy for the "good guys" to fight, and is fun to play as. In Warhammer Fantasy Grimgor is that settings Doomguy by the way, I wish 40k orks had cool leaders like that. Ghaz looks like a toothless old man that keeps losing, they need to fix him, or replace him. Make the last kroark their leader or something.

>>717416696 (OP)
Japanese pig orcs

>>717416889
Niggers wish they were a fraction as cool as orcs.

real question iz gork or mork?

>>717418631
>Gorgutz 'Ead 'Unter
>Kaptin Bludflagg
>Tuska Demonkiller
Not a bad line up with a few caveats involved

>>717416889
Brainlet take
Greenskins are based on mongol/turk

My life for the war

>>717418836
WORK WORK

>>717418861
>wORK wWORK
was that the joke the entire time?

>>717418912
PROPPAH SKRAN DAT IZ

Why did they make Ogryn football hooligans too? Really cutting into the Ork schtick

Do 40k Orks get bigger if they win fights or do they simply never stop growing?

>>717417701
British people are black, yes.

What's the point of orcs in Shadowrun? They're just worse trolls

>>717418989
Yes.

>>717418989
Well, in science to answer a question we need to isolate the variables. However thus far we have never succeeded in stopping an ork from fighting, so we do not have a definitive answer yet.

>>717418985
The scottish felt like they were under represented so GW had to make the other brutish, savage and dimwitted group footy fans to please them.

>>717419064
no they're not, the stereotype for british people are white roadmen with fucked up teeth or colonial imperial with a top hat, a monocle and a pipe

>>717419172
i thought the ratlings are scotts

>>717419172
Are the scottish not Squats?

>>717419215
Don't let the tartan confuse you - a whimsical race of small people who have unknowable ways are clearly welsh.

>>717416696 (OP)
Warhammer 40k unironically has the best orks. The that are a mix of Birmingham hooligans and German SS units are just the most fantastic thing ever.
>the young orks are trying to be all disciplined and march in unison while planning out jetpack assaults
>the old orks are laughing about the time when they were being dumb like that and throw bottles at the cringey kids before beating each other with clubs and scrap metal

>>717419292
welfs are in 40k now?

>>717419338
welves love longbows, so they're English

>>717419338
Maiden world Elfdar are a bit like wood elfs I guess.

>>717419332
The SS angle has kinda been forgotten in the last 25 years.

>>717416696 (OP)
Warcraft orcs used to be essentially the same. Woke faggotry simply ruined them over time untill they became the pussies they are today.

>>717419069
supply of grunts to kill stress free
like all orcs

>>717418631
Shame that Grimgor lost to Archaon. Would be funny if they took GW split the TOW timeline from the AOS timeline by letting Grimgor duel and this time win vs Archaon thus preventing the end times.

>>717419426
Warcraft orcs started off closer to Tolkien orcs before making the jump to noble savages in WCIII.

'ate how orcs are just green tieflings in DnD nowadays

>>717416889
>most of the portrayal of Orks in media is a racist allusion to black people
40K Orkz are literally just Norf soccer hooligans as a race of fungal retards. A bunch of fat retards that eat garbage, like to hit each other randomly, scream constantly, and dress like filthy slobs. Like in that was the entire basis when they were created and as much as the lore has drifted they have essentially remained the same.

>>717419332
>German SS units
QRD

>>717419549
The softening of DnD has been a disaster for many races

so, can you theoretically fuck the choas out of a beastman world or would that just make slanesh stronger? asking for a friend

>>717416696 (OP)
I mean your post speaks for itself. WHF Orcs to the chart.

orc city

>>717419574
Stormboyz

I like TES Orcs, cursed elves who are amazing craftsmen and honorable warriors. Unfortunately they never get much love in any of the mainline games.

>>717416696 (OP)
DAKKA DAKKA

>>717419650
Isn't everybody in TES a cursed elf? The races are so samey

>>717418631
40k Orks need a victory bad. They lose so often they feel like comedic relief, which I guess isn't far from the truth.

>>717416889
There has literally never been a game that based orcs on black people.
Cockneys and Mongols are the only two influences with real life corollaries that have spread to other depictions

>>717419650
>literal shitelves getting dunked on by the french
lmao

STOOPID TASTY 'UMIES

>>717419729
TES orcs are elves that got eaten and shit out by a god

>>717419729
Yeah fuck TES. Most overrated shit ever.

>>717419750
terrible art

>>717419531
>Shame that Grimgor lost to Archaon.
They fudged the whole lot. Grimgor kicks archaon's head in and then just.....leaves because he left the oven on or something.

>>717419219
Warhammer dwarfs are all yorkshiremen, with the sole exception of the clan Malakai Makaisson belongs to

warhammer is the gayest cringiest manchild shit ever

way moreso than warcraft, collecting warhammer minis is like collecting funko pops

>>717419789
t. Seethin 'umie

>>717419750
Someone said they don't eat people, I also heard they won't even torture them, any lore experts know if that's true cause it seems unlikely

>>717419859
nigger

>>717416889
so dnd?

>>717419574
Orks would often go through a nazi phase when growing up and form groups of stormboyz, who are orks that are really into sharp uniforms, discipline and jetpacks. They eventually grow out of such childish notions and become proper kultured orks instaed.
GW has largely forgotten about it and turned gay instead.

>>717416696 (OP)
I am currently replaying Warcraft 2 and it's warcraft orcs easily. Wargammer orcs are not serious. They are parody

>>717419921
orks only care about fighting, they have no reason to torture people
they would eat humans if necessary though

>>717419729
It's split between man and mer/elves, with a majority of the elves having some curse by some daedric god or something awful happening to them.
>Bosmer = green pact from Hircine so they can only eat meat, more cultural than a literal curse
>Dunmer = cursed by Azura to be black
>Altmer = believe they're cursed with mortality
>Khajiit = technically mer, cat people
>Orcs = patron god was shit out by another god and made them ugly
>Dwemer = disappeared due to their cultural reddit-tier atheism

Of course, most of these aren't literal and are probably just stories and parables, except for the Dunmer one since that happened during known history.

>>717420028
>Wargammer orcs are not serious.
yes they are

>>717419921
They do eat people. They mostly eat squigs but they will eat other species too

>>717419947
you are a gay manchild

>>717420081
Kek being black is a curse. Based

>>717419982
delete this shit

>>717419921
Orks have no qualms about eating anything, although they greatly preffer squigs. Especially the squigs especially bred to be tasty.
They have no interest in torture, but they do have an interest in enslavement. They don't want to work, they just want good fights.

>>717419125
There is one ancient story where an Ork was kept in captivity by an inquisitor prior to vivisection and when they hauled him out he has inexplicably become morbidly obese and very ill.

>>717420028
>I am currently replaying Warcraft 2 and it's warcraft orcs easily. Wargammer orcs are not serious. They are parody

>>717419921
I think both is true. It would undermine their symbolism otherwise. I think to some, orcs won the 40k lore.

Shouldn't Orcs in Total Warhammer be hordes? Why would they even have a permanent settlement if they just go wherever there is a fight

>>717420227
Anything released after Reign of Chaos is not canon. Frozen Throne is decent fanfic.

>>717420154
You ever read the Bible? Black people are black because it was a curse by God laid upon the first black man Ham for being a gay nigga. Like literally Noah got drunk and passed out, and his son Ham did some gay nigga shit to Noah while Noah was asleep so God turned his skin black and cursed all his descendants to be the same way so that if any normal human saw them, they would instantly know that the person with that color skin was a gay nigga.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham

how about lineage 2 orcs

>>717420360
Almost this.
WoW up to wotlk kept the same style.

>>717420342
Orks multiply so quickly that they do both at the same time once they reach critical mass.
You put enough orks in one place and they will spontaneously start building spaceships and taking them on random invasions for teh lulz.
You put even more orks in one place and they will spontaenously unify under one big ork boss and declare a crusade against the biggest space empire they can find, for teh lulz.

>>717420474
the roman thought that the sun fell on africa and charred everyone and everything

Can eating an Ork be considered an act of vegetarianism? Is corpse starch better than mushroom roast?

>>717416696 (OP)
40k, hands down. Warcraft off started cool, pretty normal orcs, but then WC3 happened and then WoW where things went a lot worse. But hey, WC3 had Blademasters, which was cool.

>>717420474
And how does the bible explain asians

>>717418989
They get bigger by fighting until they’re confident of taking on the boss, then they grow to match him for a proper fight. If they win they get bigger, and if they lose in a good enough fight the boss gets bigger.

>>717418795
For me its grizgutz.
>travel through time
>kill other self to get second favorite gun

>>717420621
>then they grow to match him
So they're cowards who don't attack anybody bigger?

>>717420602
another son of noah also did some gay shit and in turn got his dick shrunk

>>717420602
One of the ten lost tribes of Israel. Specifically the Japanese are believed to be one of the lost tribes and that the rest of the Asians are the remains of the tribe that settled while the main body of the tribe kept migrating east until they settled in Nipon.

>>717419921
That's not going to stop someone with a cannibal fetish from drawing it though. Reality is if an Ork is eating you, you've already been thoroughly krumped due to fightin' and he's not going to cut you up, just have a gnosh on your charred elbow

>>717420668
Orks do have this thing where they are simultaneously reckless, cunning and cowardly, yes. That's mostly a grot thing, but orks have a genetic/instinctive understanding of tactics so they will avoid fights. When it works and they don't just randomly charge into a fight because they're bored.

>>717420595
the noble savage thing was a Thrall exclusive thing as his joke was that he is an orc boy that was raised by humans, all the other characters were either Grom, who would disobey routinely and kill for the fuck of it and the others would just be demon servant blackrock orcs, it was nowhere near egregious enough
only in later wow was the muh dindu nuffin solidified as the status quo of orcs

>>717420972
Thrall was just Worf wasn't he? I get that he was named go'el to be like Superman, but he's pretty much Worf idolizing his culture only to find out that theyre actually pretty dickish most of the time

>>717421094
i'm sorry dawg i have no idea what you just said

>>717420126
projection

>>717421174
I SAID THRALL WAS JUST WORF WASN'T HE? I GET THAT HE WAS NAMED GO'EL TO BE LIKE SUPERMAN, BUT HE'S PRETTY MUCH WORF IDOLIZING HIS CULTURE ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEYRE ACTUALLY PRETTY DICKISH MOST OF THE TIME

>>717420690
kek

>>717420668
It’s mostly an unconscious reaction, because Orks unconsciously think bigger=better, so any of them that want to lead need to be the biggest.

>>717420041
>they have no reason to torture people
Except for finding it funny. They are pretty cruel when they want to be and the gretchin/goblins are often sadistic

>>717421237
HE SED THRALL WAS A GIT WHO WERESHIPPED A BUNCHA PROPPA ORKY BOYZ

>>717421237
>

>>717416889
Don't ever compare niggers to Orcs..orcs are badass. Also one is green and the other is shit colored brown or black

>>717416696 (OP)
Skyrim?

>>717416696 (OP)
Indeed, Chronopia Orcs best Orcs.
Sorry I thought this was /tg/.

>>717421683
I kinda dig brown orcs. Green orcs feel cartoony and unthreatening, like giant goblins.

>>717416889
How unironically racist do you have to be to actually think like this

>>717419921
People often forget Orks can be Dark Eldar-tier evil too, they use humans as chemically bloated cattle to be eaten and skinned

From the Beast Arises triology, in a Black Templar perspective:
>There was a piston shock, flesh punctured, a breathless gasp.

>The Apothecary’s narthecium punched a sampler into the nearest captive’s jugular. The man moaned piteously, legs wobbling, but the press of filthy bodies held him steady.

>Zerberyn hovered his helm light over the man’s gasping mouth, his curiosity piqued by something he had seen there. As well as having no hair, the man also had no teeth and, now he checked, no fingernails: nothing with which he could conceivably do harm to himself or another. A rare and unsettling cocktail of pity and disgust settled in his gut like one of Reoch’s analgesic slimes. His roving beam paused on the face of a woman who opened her mouth placidly as though conditioned to associate light with water or food. There was something branded onto her cheek. Zerberyn moved closer. She remained as she was, mouth wide and waiting, even as Zerberyn enclosed her head in his gauntlet and turned it gently to the side.

>The brand was that of a snake.

>The man under Mendel Reoch’s ministration gave one last grunt as the Apothecary’s narthecium retracted.

>‘There are dangerously high levels of synthetic growth enhancers, testosterone, and other steroids in his blood. I would need to return him to Dantalion’s apothecarion for more thorough investigations.’

>>717420081
>Altmer = believe they're cursed with mortality
Everyone does it.

>>717419531
You know that Storm of Chaos and End Times are two unrelated events, right?
Or has reddit not upvoted a meme telling you that?

>>717422075
debunked

I like anbennar where you can have whatever flavour of orc you want

>>717422075
>Dark Eldar
Wow, racist much? The correct term is Drukhari-american.

>>717418595
I hate this shit so much because the orcs are actually kindof cool in Elder Scrolls.

>>717420474
Really? I thought Noah's daughters jumped his bones after getting him drunk?.. am I thinking of the guy who's wife turned into a pillar of salt?

>>717420474
Eeeeeeewww! Some people think he sodomized him? Yeah, that's a blackening.

The Kameo trolls absolutely shit on you Tolkien nerds.

>reddithammer

>Trannyhammer 40k Gedners
Uh, no thanks.

>>717420795
I got to read the Bible. KJV?
This stuff sounds hilarious.

>>717425102
Tolkien orcs literally rape elves into becoming orcs. What do your scrimblo trolls do?

>>717416696 (OP)
Warcraft orcs came first tho
Warhammer is just a cheap Chinese copy

>MFW Garrosh is a 40k Ork and has access to WAAHHHGG

Look at the tech the Horde achieved with him at full power. Then look at what the horde had before and after.

>>717416696 (OP)
I like Tolkien Orcs where they are just corrupted, ruined things that are only really dangerous in large numbers with a need to defile, murder and spoil.
Also got a soft spot for Orsimer.

>>717416889
You mean the barbarians, which were primarily Germanic, Celtic, and Slavic tribes?

>>717419064
Whiter than you Pedro

>>717420595
gork iz betta den mork
simple as

>>717425410
I'm so sad best orc is gone.
Didn't even get to romance him.

>>717425870

>>717425605
>africans aren't barbaric

I like 40k orks. They have no ambiguity or nuance to them, they just wanna fight everything.

>>717425312
My bible is the Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition since it is one of the few bibles that the Catholic Church recognizes that hasn't done the globohomo thing of referring to God in gender neutral pronouns. If you really want to get deep into the weeds with the Japanese lost tribe of Israel thing you need to track down a copy of Nicholas McLeod's "Epitome of the Ancient History of Japan" where he lays out the cultural and historical parallels of the Japanese people and the ancient Hebrews. It is hilarious, pure autism, and absolutely fascinating.
https://www.bakumatsuya.com/shop-description.php?ID=1649599554
There is also Saeki Yoshiro's entire bibliography as he spent decades studying Jewish-Nestoriansm and was the leading Japanese proponent of the lost tribe theory in his era and coined the term Nichiyu Dosoron to describe the Jewish ancestry of the Japanese people.

If you want to learn about the Asian jews that stayed on the mainland and didn't migrate to Japan read up on Kaifeng Jews. They are basically indistinguishable from modern Chinese, but genetically and culturally they so Jewish that they have Right of Return to Israel.

>>717416889
NOOOOOPE
Orks(which are only in the Warhammer franchises) are all British soccer hooligans.
You are thinking of Orcs, and that is also wrong to say. People only really started to connect orcs to niggers with WoW. Sure in WC3 they were slave allegories but you must admit that WoW has had a much MUCH bigger impact on culture than WC3. WoW cemented the niggatry of Orcs by giving them the Hammer dance and twerking as their /dance emotes.

Before that Orcs were generic barbarian raiders. Viking, Mongols, people like that. What you never saw was some kind of semblance to American Negros or even Zulu iconography

is this the thread

>>717426201
Barbarians tend to have bit more intelligence to them then Africans. But I'd say the African's lack of intelligence and its tendency for violence is a large contributor to general orc behaviour.

>>717426108
It's for the best. Look at what Blizzard has done to everyone else who lingers on.
Garrosh, ever the chad noped the fuck outta the setting, in what is literally the last hype moment of WoW ever.

>>717416696 (OP)
More like,

>Warcraft Orc
Fantasy blacked porn material.

>Warhammer Ork
"Who?"

>>717426174
>>717425870
>>717420595
Gork n Mork are gonna krump the 4 and the emperor and win dah great game.

>>717416889
>im a racist retard hiding my racism under a thin veneer of progressive politic talking points.
Every single time, I bet you are mad that ICE is deporting your indentured serfs as well.

>>717426589
I want to be the Ranged DPS/Buffs build to her Tanky Barbarian build.

>>717426790
Warhammer is the gay short stack rat franchise
Skaven are the face of Warhammer

>>717427156
If that is true, why are they not in 40k?
Get fucked rat fink.

>>717426790
>see orc
>think of blacked porn
Holy amerimett mindset.

>>717426605

>>717427259
40k is coopted by trannies
Skaven dodged that bullet

>>717416696 (OP)
EQ orcs are better. Clan Deathfist 4 lyfe.

>>717427259
Because they received the mercy of not being roped into that retarded fiasco.

>>717416696 (OP)
Gothic 1 and 2
Those creatures were genuinely scary af

>>717416696 (OP)
is there any explanation as to how the Kroks from the times of the War in Heaven devolved into the current 40k Orks?

>>717428000
Lack of proper role models.

>>717428000
Evolution isn't always about making apex predators.
Also how is this the question and not how the fuck are Squigs biologically related to orcs under the greenskin family (even if they're red)?

>>717421993
you are thinking of hobgoblins.

>>717428000
As far as I know, no.
My head canon is they (unknowingly) nerfed themselves to get in propa scraps. Kroks seem to be threat to everything outside of maybe the full powered Necrons. They'd wipe out most of the galaxy with ease. This would also explain The Beast and their raise to near Krok levels. The Necrons started to wake up, the Imperium of man is very powerful, all of the faction have gotten major power boosts.

>>717426201
Why is this Trump asian?

>>717416889
Retarded post.

Orcs are Germanic. They have literally nothing in common with coons. No fantasy depiction of orcs draws from African archetypes.

>>717428000
I assumed Necron did something to them before they snoozed

>>717418417
you wish actual retard

>>717419069
trolls are too big to comfortably fit through doorways, and their stat spread makes them specialists in a game that favors generalists; you're not really supposed to minmax in Shadowrun

>>717426790
Everyone knows Warhammer Orks and also
>immediately thinking of blacked
Is it mutt hours already?

>>717430345
>Everyone knows warhammer orks
unironically boomer post

>>717420227
Trooncraft orcs have always been bootleg Orks

>>717416889
dont compare orks to nigs

>>717416696 (OP)
I like generic fodder orcs like from lotr
warhammer orcs are fucking annoying with that fuck tard accent

>>717420602
Children of Shem

>>717416696 (OP)
SAY MY NAME!! SAY MY NAME!!

>>717419921
>they don't eat people
Wrong,.they eat anything with a pulse.
>they don't even torture them
Wrong. Orks barely feel pain, like at all. This means that things that would make a human contort into the fetal position, shit and piss themselves, and scream at the top of their lungs would just tickle an Ork, they find this behavior from other species absolutely hilarious. Getting captured by Orks is a fate worse than death.

>>717425312
https://web.archive.org/web/20080224063624/http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm

>>717433490
>Orkz don't feel pain.
Well if they don't feel pain then what do they groggin' need Painboyz for?
Checkmate, ya whiny git.

Warhammer Greenskins would be perfect if they had massive stinky penises that they used to rape human, elf, and especially stout dwarven women with.

>>717416696 (OP)
It's weird that I've run into so many people that like WH and loath blizzard for supposedly stealing ideas, yet when I've asked more hardcore fans of WH they just say that WH itself steals or copies a lot from other media.
Is it just tribalistic fanboyism?

>>717434283
the greenskins you want are in Orc Stain
they collect the penises of their rivals and slice them up into coins for currency.

>>717434283
>Men*
Ftfy

>>717434596
yes but i rarely ever met a guy who likes orks to not like warcraft orcs, specially the ones before WoW
starcraft on the other hand...

Best D-orks

>>717419982
>didn't want people to accidently conflate orcs with black people anymore
>Make them mexican instead.

>>717434596
Warhammer is kinda like the original Ultima. It takes ideas from all over the place blandas them up and makes something original and weird(based before the trannies started seeping in).

Warcraft started as royalty free Dr Thunder Warhammer, and then morphed into something original and weird (cringe).

Original Warcraft was great because it was the Warhammer game we never got. It's not really tribalism but more that people really liked one thing, didn't get it from the people who were supposed to make it, went to the people who did make what they wanted, then got rugpulled.

It is definitely tribalism from people who just jumped on the bandwagon, but oldheads will tell you the old school Warcraft and Starcraft games were just legally distinct WFB and 40K.

>>717434596
it's both.
Blizzard literally just stole assets from Dune 2 and painted fantasy creatures over them. They intended to make a licensed Warhammer game but couldn't negotiate the IP rights from Games Workshop, so they called it Warcraft instead.

But of course if you look at '80~'90s era Genestealers and then modern day Tyranids, it's obvious what GE lifted from Xenomorphs. not to mention the entire faction of Judge Dredd Arbites

>>717420474
Sounds like some gay bbc jewish psyops. Does this explain the christcucks to bbc pipeline?

>>717416696 (OP)
Elder Scrolls Orsimer are a kino subversion of the evil monster race trope and only manchildren hate them for not being le badass and le stronk

>>717428000
My headcanon is that Krorks arnt a thing anymore because the level of warfare in the galaxy has dropped to relatively low levels compared to the War in Heaven days. So Orks generationally vary in size and intelligence as the situation demands.

Like the idea that Orks get bigger as the result of injuries just taken up to a species level.

I'm pretty sure there is nothing to actually support this Idea but I don't care.

>>717416696 (OP)
Dawn of Waaagh!

>>717435538
>green because their god got chewed up and shat out by futanari elf bvll

the cuckold of greenskins.

>>717419064
They are Arabic actually

>>717436880
I wish, then they could grow actual facial hair.

>>717434596
Wasn't Warcraft 1 supposed to be a WH game but GW pulled the plug mid development so Blizzard had to scrape something together? Or was that just a rumour.

>>717416696 (OP)
Random pixiv artists

>>717437292
Advertisers get down!

>>717437134
>>Wasn't Warcraft 1 supposed to be a WH game but GW pulled the plug mid development so Blizzard had to scrape something together? Or was that just a rumour.
Technically sort of
It was, but we don't know how early
Because it was Orcs vs Humans, and not Humans vs Chaos or whatever it's possible it was much later than it seems.
Nothing in the graphics or content indicates warhammer
its clearly inspired by design, but inspired doesn't mean repurposed wh designs

>>717437292
Right > left

>>717437134
>Wasn't Warcraft 1 supposed to be a WH game but GW pulled the plug
I heard that for ages, but remember seeing one of the big blizzard devs responding and saying that was never the case, or something along the lines of denying it, but they could be lying.
I didn't save it so it's anecdotal at this point.

>>717436051
I do think it's a plausible idea since the whole concept behind the Silent King putting his people through the great sleep was because they wanted to wait for the Krorks and Aeldari to pass through their glory days and conquer the galaxy again once they weren't as big of a threat, if not extinct after 60 million years. Like even some of the novels explain that the Aeldari are also a shadow of their former selves cause Trazyn has an Aeldari champion from the War in Heaven in his collection who is said to mog every single psyker in the current setting cause that's how powerful they used to be.

>>717437134
SC1 was never supposed to be WH for example, and while some paralels exist to it, it's more based on Alien (but in an Industrial rather than HR Gigger style) and Predator.
Metzen said Starcraft was meant to be Vampires and Cowboys in space, and he was a secondary artist for SC/WC, and he was not /that/ centered on Warhammer for his designs. Whichever was the main guy pushing for more Warhammer at blizzard was never 100% obvious.

>>717437830
they contacted GW for the rights but didn't get it
Orcs vs Humans is obviously a more LOTR esque setting, not WH

>>717434596
Warcraft is literally a Warhammer game that lsot the licence mid developmetn and had to make everything legally distinct last minute.
It then proceeded to become 100 times more popular than Warhammer ever was with WoW beign a cultural phenomenon tier.

So Warhammer fans are right that Warcraft steals directly from them (note Warhammer also steals, but that's not relevant to it's relation with Warcraft. Warcraft wasn't "inspired" by the same thing, it was "inspired" by Warhammer), but that wouldn't be an issue if Warhammer fans weren't butthurt their spot in pop culture was stolen back then

>>717439527
>>717438003
>lost the license mid development
>didn't get it in the first place
So which is it?

>>717439527
its pretty obvious WC was not meant to be WH because the humans in WC look nothing like any WH human armies

>>717418795
>Tuska
>his final act upon landing on a daemon world of khorne was to reach up and snip off the cock and balls of the daemon prince who ruled it
>khorne thought this was so funny that every day you and your Boyz get resurrected so you can keep fighting

>>717439662
Either way it started development as a Warhammer game but legally couldn't be.

>>717439527
Games Workshop are fags for not investing into vidya in the first place.

>>717439845
According to Patrick Wyatt, the producer of Warcraft, Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, as the game was originally meant to be an RTS adaptation of Warhammer, but Blizzard was unable to receive a license from its IP owner Games Workshop, and so decided to make its own IP.[32] According to Bob Fitch, the theme for Warcraft was inspired by the Vikings of The Lost Vikings, combined with masses of creatures under their automated control similar to Lemmings, and adding the multiplayer element of having these opposing masses of Vikings meet up and fight each other.[33]

Though subsequent Warcraft games are famous for having complex stories presented lavishly,[34] the first installment of the series had no script and the plot was improvised in the recording studio by producer and sole voice-actor Bill Roper.[35] The contract composer Gregory Alper wrote music that Blizzard staff found reminiscent of Holst's The Planets.[36] Demos in mid-1994 whetted appetites for the completed game, released for MS-DOS in November 1994[4][7] and for the Macintosh in 1996.[13] The game was published by Blizzard in North America and by Interplay Entertainment in Europe,[2] and Sold-Out Software republished the MS-DOS version in March 2002.

>>717439723
warcraft humans = Kingdom of Bretonnia

>>717439863
GW have always been fags and they have always hated their audience.

>>717440173
not even close

>>717419069
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_1ePGdhf_Fg

>>717440357
omg dude that's so random xD

I love Warhammer 40k orks. They are the best faction in the whole franchise.
>but muh tragic humanity
>but muh Eldar
>but muh Tau
I don't care. Orks are a force of pure positivity for themselves

GRUL-HAL, CHAMPION

>>717440518
Nah, best faction is Imperial Knights. Medieval courtly knights transported far far beyond the worlds they knew to battle monsters and demons from their homeworld's ancient folklore wearing several dozen tonnes of armor going Romper Stomper through the battlefield looking for glory, honor, and fame.

They're just neat.

>>717416696 (OP)
Why are Kiddiehammer-fags so annoying?

>>717442237
Chyat is this true?

>>717442237
seethe wowcuck/dndtroon

>>717419064
there was a time when Britain was white. That's what the orks are based on.

>>717425332
Invade the fairylands, pillage their treasures, slaughter the men, rape the women, and still find time to improve their technology to be on the level of Victorian England while everyone else is living in the Dark Ages.
Wake me when that hack of a writer Tolkien puts big ass robot orcs into his story…oops, sorry, he's already six feet under.

>>717442851
>

>>717419750
Orks don't look like monkeys dude

>>717416889
Orks are a jab at hooligan brits, but niggers do fit the bill better

>>717442237
why are you so annoyed?

>>717419574
>>717426605
>Barbarians tend to have bit more intelligence to them then Africans
only after the romans uplifted them

>>717442973
le art... is le... creative

>>717433490
>Getting captured by Orks is a fate worse than death.
debunked. Comissar Cain liberated a bunch of ork slaves and was able to lead them into an effective fighting force, leading them all the way to a confrontation with the warboss, meaning they weren't tortured as badly as you imply.

>>717416696 (OP)
currently doing a grimgor campaign in wh3. for the 20th time

luv me orkz, simple as.

>IM DA BEST
>SAY MY NAME, SAY MY NAME

>>717442587
SUUUUUUUU-EE!

>>717440109
https://www.codeofhonor.com/blog/the-making-of-warcraft-part-1
>Allen Adham hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition. Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, but a combination of factors, including a lack of traction on business terms and a fervent desire on the part of virtually everyone else on the development team (myself included) to control our own universe nixed any potential for a deal. We had already had terrible experiences working with DC Comics on “Death and Return of Superman” and “Justice League Task Force”, and wanted no similar issues for our new game.

>>717443231
Based, also I love this nigga. Favorite greenskin campaign next to the FAT GOBBO bastard.

>>717416696 (OP)
I really want a Diablo or Borderlands-style 40k ork game. It's the only faction in the setting that actually makes sense with the mechanics, all the random loot, the different classes/builds, crafting, and so on.

>>717416696 (OP)
Warcraft

>>717426519
Elder Scrolls might have beaten WC to that allegory.

>>717443382
cant wait to bootyblast the whole galaxy as ghazkull when tw 40k eventually drops

>>717443682
never gonna happen.

>>717443682
as if
they're doing AoS first

>>717443853
>AoS
It's so over.

>>717442960
You sat down and read all 40 pages of the introduction for The Lord of the Rings, you fucking geek, and you dare to lecture me? Tolkien's writing style is similar to J. K. Rowling's: just taking preexisting characters and ideas and claiming them as your own work.
Michael Ende's a far superior author, but this is a video game thread and I shouldn't have to tell a full grown adult why he should stop reading consumerist slop featuring Dildo Faggins and company.

>>717443728
>>717443853
i will NEVER give up hope.

>>717416889
Kek, I'm playing BG3 right now, doing the trials in the wyrmway, and in the chamber of insight where you have to slay one of the three councellors you find picrel. (obviously she's good and if you slay her you lose, to win you have to slay the guy who says you should kill your enemy in war)

>>717443950
>yap
didn't read lol

>>717416889
>see barbarian savages
>thinks about black people
anon... you are the racists

>>717422072
You have to be a post-2011 leftist, so obsessed with race you loop back into being the most racist.

>>717420227
This is random fan art, not from Warcraft. Why are you trying to be disingenuous and spread misinformation, are you a troon?

>>717443950
Thats just a warcraft orc, which is just tolkien orcs but built like the incredible hulk. Tolkien invented the fantasy novel, railing against him while praising something obviously derivative of his work makes you look like such a poser.

I think comparing orcs to black people is an insult. To orcs.

>>717416889
/v/ is so easy to bait it's not even funny

>>717425410
the biggest crime for garrosh is metzen refused to kill him off after all the build up. He should of just let it go in pandaria and moved on. WoD would of never happened.. that shitty novel would of never happened. the timeline would be better

>>717419921
It’s not that they won’t incidentally do those things, but more than they don’t have a drive to do them in the way Dark Eldar are driven to capture and torture others for example. An Ork might eat a human if hungry and no squig was available, but it’s not like eating humans is something most Orks would go out of their way to do. Same with torture. Orks want to fight and kill, they aren’t going to specifically try to avoid killing someone to prolong suffering. From time to time the means by which an Ork kills you may be LIKE torture. But that wasn’t the goal.

>>717424419
>the orcs are actually kindof cool in Elder Scrolls
That's just because they're Dwarves who are only orc in name and appearance.

>>717444772
>Tolkien invented the fantasy novel
Are we really going to ignore John Bunyan, Lewis Carroll, and the anonymous author of Beowulf like that?

>>717424419
They’re cool because of the Warp in the West and the threat of a 1000ft magical automaton (among other things) forced them to be seen as cool. Their origin myth is ignoble but they’re also a story of clawing out a place from nothing, which is admirable.

>>717445801
yes.png

>>717445801
>muh gayowulf
so tired of hearing this

>>717440518
>orks the best in 40k
>gobbos the best in WHFB

simple as

>>717447849
y tho?

>>717416696 (OP)
Orcs Must Die! 3

>>717416696 (OP)
Warhammer is also woke, it doesn't matter.

>>717425410
>Look at the tech the Horde achieved with him at full power.

all his tech was literally just goblin shit with spikes...
gnomes and the alliance still own these retards

>>717420227
>nigger still posting fanart
Kill all retarded bots
>>717444515
yeah of course he's a troon, these people live in delusion

>>717417505
Dis

>>717418912
Noice

>>717437843
>Aeldari
Stop it.

>>717422075
Brutal

>>717420474
>Biblically accurate buckbreaking

>>717445801
>>717448082
>Beowulf
>a fantasy novel
Nani?

>>717420595
>Can eating an Ork be considered an act of vegetarianism? Is corpse starch better than mushroom roast?
It would would be like Joel and Ellie taking a bite out of the moldheads from their game. If the explosive shits don't kill you the weaponized fungus is going to turn your insides green.

>>717418417
warhammer orks were quite literally created by brits and based on 1980s english football hooligans

>>717424849
You got like, 3 stories mixed up.

>>717435235
How fatherless do you have to be to type this

>>717453440
I always assume orks were bases on those dudes from mad max

>>717452438
isn't ellie immune or some shit?

>>717416696 (OP)
>sci-fi with overused fantasy elements
Warhammer is peak goyslop.

>>717416696 (OP)
Any game with porks. I tire of green niggers and green retards.

>>717444926
The coward's gambit
>post my propaganda, if they respond i'm baiting, if not my ideas go unchallenged
Your tired tactics no longer work here. You have been dismantled.

>>717453867
>goyslop
so what does thst mean?

>>717453867
Warhammer is the source of everything you know as fantasy + sci-fi today, lie to someone else.

>>717453864
Blood wise she is doesn't mean her digestive system can pull anything useful from half chewed mushrooms, flayed out jaws and teeth.

Roundhouse kick orcs into the concrete.
Slam dunk orcs into the trashcan.
Crucify filthy orcs.
Defecate in an orcs food.
Launch orcs into the sun.
Stir fry orcs in a wok.
Toss orcs into active volcanoes.
Urinate into orcs zeppelin balloons.
Judo throw orcs into a wood chipper.
Twist orcs heads off.
Report orcs to the SI:7.
Karate chop orcs in half.
Curb stomp pregnant green orcs.
Trap orcs in quicksand.
Crush orcs in the trash compactor.
Liquefy orcs in a vat of acid.
Eat orcs.
Dissect orcs.
Exterminate orcs in the blight labs.
Stomp orcs skulls with mithril toed boots.
Cremate orcs in the Firelands.
Lobotomize orcs. Mandatory kidney punch orcs with poisoned shivs.
Grind orcs in the garbage disposal.
Drown orcs in fried chicken grease.
Vaporize orcs with a ray gun.
Kick old orcs down the stairs.
Feed orcs to alligators.
Slice orcs with a katana.

>>717424265
>Drukhari with a hard R
damn, drukha, that's kinda racist...

>>717416696 (OP)
>>717417505
>franchise
40k
>vidya
Shadow of Mordor

>>717417568
also this

>>717453907
Nobody on /v/ thinks like that, it's obvious. I bet he wasn't even trying to bait, my guess is he mimicked a crazy leftist to underline how absurd the modern portrayal of orcs is and mock them but the subtlety was lost to that braindead board.

>>717419574
Young orks rebel against ork society by showing discipline, following orders, and marching around in polished boots.
Older orks mock these rebels, or lament that the old orky ways are being lost, but for most orks this is just a phase. They eventually grow out of it, and learn to enjoy themselves.

They are called the stormboyz, but the current stormboyz models look nothing like how they're described in the lore or depicted in earlier art/models.

>>717418417
britbongs are now cowardly faggots.
they don't fit the bill anymore.

In Soldak games orcs are a result of a no-name Necromancer using his magic on not quite dead Elves, which transformed them into brutes that proceeded to rip him to shreds. They are tribal, not that advanced and aren't much of a problem compared to something like demons or dark elves.

By Zombasite though they "evolve" because they are hit by the namesake of the game, which is a giga nigga magical zombie virus. Dunno if any "pure" tribes remain but the virus makes them mutate into 3 main different strains: Zombielords (actually got zombified and now have the intelligence of elves, strength of a champion giga nigga magical zombie and unbound malice), dark orcs (orcs but more dangerous and ferocious) and the Mutated (which actually resemble their Elven ancestors a lot both in appearance and character but suffer/benefit from random mutations).

>>717456939
>now

>>717416696 (OP)
>Warcraft I Orcs
>a wild horde controlled by a chief who got his position by proving his strength and smarts
>guided and "given advice" by a cabal of dark sorcerers (also Orcs) behind the scenes who are the real rulers in all but name and could approve of a more competent orc coming and usurping the warchief's place
>also have Dark Knights (also Orcs) and a sexy half-orc lady among them
I think I prefer these Orcs to the noble/evil retard savages of the latter games.