This makes /v/oids piss and shit themselves from pure anger
If that's what you want to believe, then go ahead, but there's no need to shit up the board with your schizo fantasies.
>>717422745 (OP)>My Soipunk 2077 is supposed to be better because I can be trans!!>Uhh BG3 lets me have gay bear sex!
>>717422996wrong thread pardner
>>717422745 (OP)>man using a saw is why RDR2 sold well
what's the point of sawing a tiny part of a long plank to then carry it completely elsewhere?
there's no measurement on it, no reference, how does he know he's cutting it right for whatever hypothetical purpose he has for it?
Case in point. No further proof is needed, but you will provide more anyway because that's your nature.
Too bad emergent world design and player choice evaporates the second you are on a quest railroad.
>>717423429Stick to Bethesda games
>>717422745 (OP)>npc saws plank and then puts it somewhereokay? and then what?
>>717422745 (OP)oblivion did this in 2006. it was a selling point feature almost every nps had their own dynamic schedule independent from the player and loading cells.
>>717423569Oblivion didn't sell 75 millies.
>>717423514Come back tomorrow to find out
>>717423490skyrim is unironicaly a better game than red dead diarrhea
>>717423139he marked it with a pencil and you cant see it
>>717423625Then make a Skyrim thread.
>>717422745 (OP)Now how about the gameplay?
>>717423514And then you watch the tiktok about it.
This is how AAA games are designed now. They put silly little details in that nobody ever cares about, but make for good fodder for these videos. Because it's "SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT RDR2" it's easy to get engagement from retards who think this is special or that it somehow makes the game better. This is all that BG3 does as well.
>>717422745 (OP)Are RDR2 and GoW the most boring games to come out in the past 10 years?
>>717423139Because there's not much room where it was stored?
>>717423514I don't see the issue. Small pointless details are neat, but of course /v/ being /v/ now thinks details are bad because they became popular.
>>717423848>10 INSANE Details In RDR 2>10 Things You Didn't Know You Could Do In RDR 2>Nobody Knew This CRAZY Detail Existed In RDR 2 Until Now
>>717423848>They put silly little details in that nobody ever cares about,I thought that was called SOUL?
>>717422745 (OP)i used to think rdr2 was a masterpiece.
but then i started to notice the same two npcs doing the same greeting animations to each other in valentine every time i rode into town. then you start to notice alot of scripted shit that repeats when the player enters a town.
people completely overhype the dynamic AI and npcs.
>>717422745 (OP)Yeah this is it. When I'm looking for a game I always ask "is there a guy who cuts a piece off a plank and then takes it a short distance away?" I dont bother with games that lack this simple addition, found many hidden gems this way.
>>717423624oblivion was pirated more than 300 million times
>>717424010used to be, before smartphones and social media poisoned the well
nowadays all media is made with clicks and impressions and influencers and virality in mind, nothing is pure anymore
>>717423848It is special. Keep seething, remain unable to run it, and keep playing your REAL video games (which when i ask you to point them out you never do)
>>717424062...that's a flex?
>>717422745 (OP)I go through town at full speed, lasso these guys then throw them off cliffs or try leave a ton of them on train tracks. Feeding people to wild animals is also acceptable. The more whacky the better.
>>717422745 (OP)Where's the gameplay
>>717423772>games have to have gameplayFuck off tendie
>>717424251here you go mister
>>717422745 (OP)RDR2 fucking sucked compared to RDR1, especially multiplayer.
Point and laugh at me for pre-ordering the deluxe version
>>717422745 (OP)Am I supposed to be impressed? Ultima 7 did this over 30 years ago.
>>717423625This
>>717423741RdR2 and its fans deserve to be shit on with great escape velocity. Absolute slopfest of superficial dogshit, appealing to only the lowest IQ retards imaginable.
>>717423848This is a retarded mindset and peak midwittery. They put these details in so the NPCs don't just stand or walk doing nothing while looking retarded.
>>717424354Thatโs so BWC stunningโฆ
>>717423569>start a quest>countess is nowhere to be found>getting bothered, did my fucking game glitch?>talk to every NPC>"yeah she takes a weekly trip to the other side of the province">mfw>wait a day and sure enough, she's backblew my mind
>>717424410Ulti-who?
>>717424426"shitting" on us doesn't accomplish anything, it only shows how mad you are that we're enjoying the game
>>717423772>>717424270already posted some but you seem to ignore it...huh...
>>717424550>Ulti-who?A game series older than your dad
>>717422745 (OP)There is a not so delicate balance between great immersive world building, and overdoing shit just for the sake of retards to post about it on a chinese carpet cleaning imageboard.
How many people do you think noticed this shit while normally playing?, how many do you think gave a fuck after knowing?, would the time and resources spent on the plethora of this kind of useless shit not be better spent making more diverse missions?, or giving players multiple ways to go about finishing them instead of the scripted on rails movie you have to "play" through?
nah, here are some shrinking horse balls, that'll be 60$+tip
>>717422745 (OP)all I hear in my head is gabe newell asking "How is this fun?"
>have npcs not do anything
>/v/ would complain
>have them do stuff
>/v/ still complains
>/v/ then wonders why everybody thinks it's one of the worst boards on 4chan
>>717424658>thinking about horse ballsyou didn't play the game, also gay
>>717424678>thinking about some fatsogay
>>717424483yeah there's several quests around the feature where you have to learn the npcs schedule by stalking them or talking to others.
>>717422745 (OP)gothic had npc routines in 2001
>>717424721>it'a either 'nothing' or a bunch of pointless 15 second long animations that the player can only interruptplay more video games
>>717422745 (OP)Too bad the game is not fun to play because of how sluggish it feels.
And at what point it becomes a waste of time and resources to work on little details like shrinking horse balls that almost nobody will notice?
>>717424157>...that's a flex?yes. there's more players and mods for oblivion than rdr2.
>>717422745 (OP)>drops saw on the ground where it can be stolen/trampled
>>717422745 (OP)Majora's Mask had complex NPC routines
>>717425002>weight of saw is enough to make sawhorse scoot around under the weight of the plank
>>717424721It's as if open world is inherently garbage.
>>717424781Gothic sold like 75 copies
>>717422986Are those... idle animations!?
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>>717423848You joke but nu-/v/ throws such an autistic meltdown whenever a game misses out on some autistic detail nobody cares about
>>717425129you can FEEL the fume behind this post, and many others ITT. It's just a game guys..
>>717424898I'm playing a game right now. You know as well as I do /v/ would bitch no matter how long the animations last.
>>717425091Who said it only applies to open world?
>>717424721>do less work than devs 20-30 years ago>people complain>add mechanics that have been around for 2-3 decades>modern devs expect to be sucked off for adding it
>>717425192These are all very nice touches of detail, but what about the gameplay?
It is just a game after all, that should matter the most.
>>717425506>that should matter the mostaccording to whom?
>>717422745 (OP)it has my favorite photo mode in any game
>>717422745 (OP)But RDR2 is an excellent game, other thab the 20% hamfisted woke milennial dialogue.
>>717425571According to people who actually play games instead of merely posting about them on Mongolian basket weaving forums.
i hate how slow the game is
>>717422948a gacha weeb coomer thread died for this...
>>717424483millennials shat on radiant ai but it was kino as fuck
>>717425692>According to people who actually play gamesWhy are you talking on their behalf ? You don't play any games.
>>717423490Both are equally shit for almost the same reason. I hate Bethesda games a lot more though, actually.
>>717425942What do you consider good games to be
>>717425845Except I did play it and was left unimpressed.
>>717425506gameplay is great, most of the guns feel satisfying and shootouts on foot or on horse back are fun, especially with the deadeye system, side activities like bounties, hunting, fishing, gambling, are fleshed out well and offer worthwhile rewards, the worst parts of the gameplay are when you are railroaded into following paths in story missions and can fail a mission for going off course, but these instances are few and far between, even more so if you aren't intentionally doing the opposite of what the game says during missions where you're given a specific set of instructions
>>717422745 (OP)>just drops the saw down
>>717426017some of the euphoria mods and PDO make this game's gunfights truly divine
>>717422745 (OP)It's so funny how this is not soul according to /v/ because the game is "woke" so nothing it does matters.
RDR2 outsouls your favorite game
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>>717426016>I quit this game in the tutorial. Here's why my opinion on the entire game matters>14 hour youtube essay
>>717422745 (OP)Yet it has worse gameplay than DOOM
>>717423490>when the npc doesn't hold modern day Californian values
>>717426234>epilogue>tutorialNah you know what, I agree. Every single mission in a modern rockstar game is just one big tutorial right up until the credits. Can't have the player going off script in their movie after all.
>>717426265because it's not a DOOM-like, lol. It's a RDR-like.
>>717426231>character is raised by a variety-hour ecoterrorist commune living in the woods>possesses infinite loyalty to his loved ones who defy the forces that would take away their idea of freedom>their literal mission statement is "we rebel against society"they made it as justified as humanly possible for arthur to not give a shit about traditional cowboy problems, for a fairly reasonable justification for the time period, and they still have to bang their little baby fists on the table and cry about it instead of playing other games
>>717422745 (OP)The problem is despite how cool that looks and is it does literally nothing for the gameplay which handles like shit riding on a horse in red dead redemption two and itโs play feel Sluggy and slow i anticipate GTA six will feel the same way
>>717425703>indigenous peoples daykek I remember this shit being pushed when I was in college. even back then it was a total shitshow.
>>717422745 (OP)What a retarded nigger AI webm for retarded ai niggers in this thread.
>>717424678For some it's fun, because they like immersion of it, I don't get why tards arguing back and forth here. It's just preferences.
>>717426556RDR2 has the best horse riding among all i've played: RDR2, TLOU2, Witcher 3. What game has better horse riding?
>>717426641kek calm down, i think you're sperging in the wrong thread
>>717425703This infuriates me to no end, if I'm using whatever little time I have to play a game, I don't fucking want it to waste my god damn time with minutes long cut scenes or bullshit on rails sections, this shit completely kills replay ability for me.
/v/eddit hates red dead redemption 2 because isn't free, don't have micro transactions and isn't available on mobile
>>717422745 (OP)Too bad the gameplay is absolute ass.
>>717422745 (OP)That's cool and all but it doesnt do anything past that and doesn't contribute to the game at large
That's cool and all, but that one webm where you shoot a guy who's trying to murder you and it instantly fails your quest and forces you to reload is enough to make me never want to play it.
I don't understand how can you focus so much on making a believable, realistic sandbox, and then just shit your pants like that and throw any pretense of freedom out of the window.
>>717427139but now you're wasting your time being mad about a game on /v/
>>717427303you said that like 3 times already, you're not very subtle
>>717422745 (OP)>drops the saw to the ground like it's garbageAll that effort, and then they ruin the immersion like that.
>>717422745 (OP)>that's why this game has sold 75 million copiesit'd be funnier if it was about how the game simulates horse shitting or whatever.
i remember that actually being something people talked about, not plank cutting routine npc.
>>717422745 (OP)>yanks don't understand that cowboys are boring as fuck to anyone not in USA
>>717427592Nah, it was horse ball swelling and withdraving depending on the temperature, a feature nobody has managed to confirm even exists in the finished game.
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>>717427612It has its fans in Europe as well, but it's much more niche these days. Most people have seen a few (italo)westerns at least.
>>717422745 (OP)>I want to watch people do things rather than play myselfPerfect for the zoomer audience
>>717427713Kino
If you kill your enemies, they win
>>717427612>>717427829when did the last spaghetti western come out?
>>717423848>>717423964>yes, the developers actually did this>when devs are actually paid enough
it sold well because it copies Oblivion's Radiant AI
>>717422745 (OP)I do this in real life. I'm currently building a pole building-carport on the weekends. Maybe try getting a life instead of s oy facing over simulated chores in a woke videogame.
>>717427168it's multiplayer component does, do you faggots ever actually play the shit you shill?
>>717428296>I do this in real lifeI fucking hope so. Do you expect a medal for washing your hair as well?
>>717427024I remember the riding in shadow of the colossus feeling pretty good but I haven't played it since release. It's nowhere near rdr2 level though.
>>717427024Not only is the horse riding good, but it's also one of the only games I ever played that made me care for the horse like an actual animal. It might not be the fastest but fuck me do I love my horse.
I got sick of riding the stupid horse. Really. The first ten times it's ok, the world is pretty, no doubt. But the horses are boring as fuck. It's not like inb gta where driving cars is fun.
I was doing a mission, it was a looooong ass trip across the map. Like 10 min on the stupid horse, again, after 36518 hours on your arse. I was close to the end and the animal bugged a bit and i fell down, killed. I looked at the map, right at the starting point. Unistalled it.
>>717422745 (OP)This game was good and I'm excited for GTA VI. Can't wait to explore the city and commit mass murder.
>>717427168I hate RDR2 because every time I think it's going to let me have some fun it pulls the rug out.
stop making me want to replay it ffs
i need to be in the right state of mind to savour it properly
>>717428565Seriously go outside and touch grass anon. Maybe learn a life skill.
>>717422745 (OP)wow what amazing gameplay
imagine playing a game just to sit in place and watch NPCs do boring shit
>>717422745 (OP)majora's mask did it in 2000 retard
>>717427168>Isn't freeEvery game is free.
>>717430067>i need to be in the right state of mind to savour it properlywhy am I not surprised?
>>717422986>R* abandoned this for GTAwhat are they supposed to do? RDR2 remastered? RDR3 with extra animal animations?
>YOUR RDO GFoh okay its a retarded jeet
I don't have the energy to make a long post but the game is shit by not being a game but a glorified linear interactive cutscene
>>717422745 (OP)>puts the saw on the rack>it falls over instantlyI keked (a bit)
>>717422745 (OP)https://youtube.com/shorts/JfbHfzGnCfA?si=eM4Lms7pW_xbVwsK
>>717424153>used to be, before smartphones and social media poisoned the wellSo you just admit you have your mind poisoned, stupid faggot?
The interactivity and vast detailed world of RDR2 is soul, but you can't even appreciate it anymore, because LE PEE PEE POO POO TIKTOK
Fuck you nigger
>>717431497because i cant just start and autopilot instantly like any other garbage game?
>>717432454>LOL YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE THE POOL JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY PISSED AND SHAT IN IT??? FUCK YOU
>>717426017>but these instances are few and far between
Literally Shenmue on the Dreamcast.
game is boring af. No amount of gwafics and technology can fix that
>>717423624>didn't sale 75 milliesand? Minecraft sold more than 4 times that and it doesn't have anything like that.
Mario Kart 8 sold 77 million. Guess both those games are better.
>>717422745 (OP)if this was in a 2005 game people here would never stop saying how soulful it was and how far games have fallen today
I bought the game cause it was on sale for $10. And ive never finished the first chapter. I go around and harrass NPC's and larp as a hunter.
>>717423130Better excuse than the horse balls
>>717422745 (OP)Pretty sure most people bought it cause they wanna be a cowboy.
>>717433551I wanna learn to rope and ride
>>717433596Wearing my six shooter, riding my pony on a cattle drive
>>717428334of course not. He played through it once on a ps4 and promptly went back to CoDshit. Now years later it his favorite childhood game that is part of his identity
>>717432029maybe any sort of DLC lol retard.
Yeah the world of RD2 is great.
Too bad the story and characters suck.
>>717426231>soul is when you watch NPCs do stuff instead of the player actually having any meaningful interactionRDR2 fags are cuckolds. They get enjoyment from watching others have fun in their place.
>>717424467You are a pseud. This is more than what is necessary to sell the illusion. Most players are not going to inspect whether an NPC is correctly hammering a nail or whatever, but R* put these autistic details in the game in order to impress teenagers that watch these youtube compilations, while gameplay is completely neglected.
>>717427024>>717427168fanboy tendies who spam webms of their games and post shitty non-arguments should kill themselves. they're pretty easy to spot. when they spam their shitty webms, you know they're aspies who have no worthwhile discussion in them. just mindless fanboying. and it's always newer slop like tlou2 or the open world zeldas because they're newfags with no taste; that's why they shill so much their shitty games.
all the detail in the world was neat, it's the story missions that suck
also it sold because of the developer and IP not because of those details
>>717427493>drops the saw to the groundyou do realize that's intended right?
>>717424354rdr2 is one of those games where its hard for me to think of how to improve it from a mechanical point of view. its story mode and combat felt so lacking, but its hard for me to point out why.
i think maybe its due to how there is a lack of feeling or real danger or consequence. it might have benefitted from a more severe save system. i.e., you basically only get a save point when you move to a new area. then, when you're fighting 40 enemies on the last mission, it won't feel like a chore. it will feel extremely daunting, which is what it wants you to feel.
>>717427886but watching it is playing the game
>>717428296how? you're posting on /v/
>>717430067best played during winter when there's snow outside and it gets dark at 4 PM
>>717431274why imagine? it actually exists, it's called RDR 2
>>717431380ma-who?
>>717435978haha yeah move over zelda, red dead's the real gamer series now!
>>717422745 (OP)>Sold 75 million copies>Reminder that about 50 million of those were given away for free on Epic Store and PlayStation+.
>>717424426Not really. Most normalfag zoomers hated rdr2. Youโre somehow forgetting the waves of backlash it got when it came out. Which is why gta 6 is gonna be the most dumbed down zoomerfied marvel tier slop weโve ever seen.
>>717422745 (OP)>npc does nonsensical thingWowwie
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>>717436568>utters that phrase while posting on /v/BAZINGA
>>717422745 (OP)I wish they'd put that level of attention to detail into the gameplay instead.
>>717424010It's soul when it's old.
>>717436930Well, they did..problem is you are expecting it to play like a different game. From what i gather, more like Fallout/Skyrim/DOOM(?)/Mario/Sekiro/etc. Idk why, this isn't that type of game. Doesn't matter though. I mean, everything negative said ITT about the game doesn't matter, like at all. When RDR3 comes out it will make gorillions. Life is good
>>717422745 (OP)I dare to bet everything I have that less than 1% even knew this was a thing, let alone that they actively cared about it.
>>717424157You want a real video game? X-COM: UFO Defense.
>Make a game with a really good sandbox gameplay and open world, with genuinely incredible weather system and a lot of detail
>But every single activity in the main game doesn't use any of it, instead it's all scripted to shit to the point where your horse is obviously railroaded and tries its best to follow a preset path during chase sequences, a slight deviation from their beloved script is an instant mission failure even when it doesn't make any sense
>Add an Online mode where all activities, even those in separate instances with some scripting, are incredibly open to how you can do them, allowing you to actually play the fucking game. Much better mission design even if they're really barebones and even more tools for dicking around
>Try to squeeze every fucking cent out of it then drop it forever once you realize it only makes you 6 gorrillion dollars a month rather than 6 bajillion gorillion dollars a month like GTA V
>>717422745 (OP)How does this make the game more fun?
>>717437741Idk why that's a negative? The main game's story is a scripted pre-determined story the devs wanted to tell (which can be completed fairly quick) the rest of the game you can do whatever the fuck you want (limitless time). I genuinely don't see the problem.
>>717437917Well, i see that and think "huh, that's kinda awesome" and now i like the game a little bit more (which is a fun feeling)
Too bad the game is not fun
>>717423848This is the correct answer.
>>717422745 (OP)Who the fuck cares. The gameplay is shitty so the game is shitty. Watch a cowboy movie.
>>717433742dlc is cancer. just make new games.
>>717423848pic related but in video form
>>717422745 (OP)It's neat but it's just just aesthetics.
It's just throwing lots of money at some animators so they can make something that looks cool but doesn't do anything for the gameplay.
A game where NPCs could actually change the world by cutting down forests and building them into settlements over time would actually be significant.
I would actually prefer a game that spent the massive amounts of processing power we have now on that kind of shit instead of realistic visuals. Give me something with the visuals of Daggerfall but with huge depth.
>>717424569out
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rockstar of david goycattle are nothing but slop slurpers
>>717438182 You missed the point entirely. Itโs not just about the gameplay loops, itโs about the atmosphere, the immersion, the *vibe*. Yeah the controls can feel like steering a wagon made of molasses, but it nails that living, breathing world feeling better than 99% of games. Cowboy movie doesnโt let me shoot a guy for calling my horse ugly and immediately suffer the consequences from the local law like it's a Wild West simulation. Let me rot in my cowboy fantasy, anon.
Why does nu/v/ pretend Rockstar doesn't make incredibly polished and genre defining games?
>>717423772I never understood why people try to make this stand with RDR2 as if it doesnโt have the same gameplay as every other R* game
>>717439762THEY JUST DON'T SHUT UPPPPP
>>717439915There was a time where people wanted heavily scripted games and the industry catered to it. Most people are sick of that now and Rockstar hasn't adjusted their style to fit.
for me it was this guy
I stood there for the whole ingame day hoping he actually saws the log
>>717423624so then that doesn't make the game sell 75 million copies and your whole argument is wrong, peanut brain.
>>717439762Even you have more fun posting screenshots and creating videos of these games than actually playing them. And that says everything. Besides Max Payne 3, these games are sightseeing simulators, nothing else.
>>717422745 (OP)RDR2 is great when you aren't dealing with the main cast, anytime the main cast is on screen and doing the main story, the game immediately nosedives in quality and freedom, you are in for a railroad experience that inevitably ends in a firefight, which involves the police of THE ENTIRE GOD DAMNED STATE, coming to commit suicide by you and the gang
everything else, the collectables while annoying are neat because of Arthur's journal, the side missions are fun and unique, etc, everything is fine until you hit the trite bullshit that is the main story
>Arthur's a fucking idiot who will literally look the other way while his gang falls apart simply because DUTCH said so, the guy who left him behind multiple time, the guy who's left gang members behind multiple times, Arthur, the man of many talents, thinks he can't live anywhere else despite the fact he's a perfect Rancher, Hunter/Bounty Hunter, Butcher, Fisherman, Carpenter, Pimp, everything and anything the frontier has, he's done, yet he feels like he can only exist in the gang which treats him like SHIT.FUCK THIS GAME.
this is probably the gayest OP i've seen in years
>>717440276You don't speak for me, Timmy. I've played Rockstars games since before you were even a twinkle in your daddy's eye
>>717440072>Most people are sick of that now and Rockstar hasn't adjusted their style to fit.No? The thing came out in 2018 and was like the 7th best selling game of all time. If there was any fatigue for this it was after RDR2 released and they havenโt released a game since
that's cool and all, but next time don't make the game a pozzed piece of shit. anti-racism in 1899? KEK
>>717440276NTA but I put an absurd amount of hours into RDR2
>>717422745 (OP)>takes 15 minutes to handsaw 10 inches off a board>drops his saw flat in the mud....
>>717422745 (OP)Gothic did that shit in 24 years ago.
>>717440358I mean people complained about RDR2 being scripted as fuck when it came out and are obviously still complaining about it now. So yeah they were sick of it in 2018.
>>717440547>peopleAre you talking about a significant amount of people. Is there some measurable metric for this audience
>>717435831Doesn't look like intended. If it was, the guy would pick it up. Just animators being lazy and the end result looks retarded. A reminder that fidelity for fidelity's sake will end up looking uncanny when your budget reaches the limit and the simulation breaks.
>>717440615You can just google "RDR2 is too scripted" and you'll find lots of people complaining about it online.
And one of the most famous RDR2 videos (at 11 million views) is by NakeyJakey who complains about exactly that.
If you want a fucking meta analysis on it then I'm afraid I can't help you.
>>717440763sure, because then it's convenient to the thread narrative, they just let that there...only expert gamers of /v/ noticed it
>>717440867Do you think they took that feedback seriously and will allow GTAVI to be more free form in approach?
>>717440867>Lots of people just google itLike what Reddit? Gamefaqs
>Look up this video it has a lot of viewsIโm starting to think you donโt actually have a real opinion on this
>>717440442It is a nightmarishly long game so that doesnt surprise me. On top of that the game has so many time wasting elements. But I can't imagine you did anything exciting in the open world. Much like the autists itt, I assume you were just riding on your horse ogling at virtual wilderness.
>>717422745 (OP)cool but what about the gameplay?
>>717440990No? One of the most popular GTAV videos is people saying GTA4 has way more pointless details. Now a bunch of people complain that RDR2 and GTA6(off trailers alone) has too many pointless details. It will play like GTAO
>>717440990No. I think GTA V and RDR2 sold 80 quadrillion copies and they're not going to change up a formula that has worked so far.
>>717440993Well you're on /v/ and people regularly complain about it here too.
What kind of evidence do you want?
>>717441006I beat it twice, 100% complete it(donโt believe the 61% that was for my second playthrough) and unlocked pretty much everything in the online.
>>717441154Why can't other developers make open worlds that feel as real as Rockstar? It is genuinely incredible from a technical standpoint.
>>717441287I genuinely think there is some projection here.
There is nothing about RDR2 that feels more real than your average Ubishit game.
>>717441172Bad critic review scores, poor sales, bad user review scores? You know, things that suits will look at and course correct over. Not a handful of nerds bitching in a forum. If itโs not enough for to make the devs to change how they do things, the criticism may as well not exist. R* has responded to criticism like with the demakes so they arenโt immune to it but this is not one of those situations
>>717441248I hope most of that is online because I cant bring myself to sink so many hours into such a dull game.
>>717422745 (OP)it wasn't the reason it was because it's rockstar slop shit you fucking retardds
>>717441524I mean the issue isnt' big enough to be game ruining.
I would still rate the game fairly high despite thinking the mission design is ass because it does enough right in other areas to make up for it.
>>717422986The online for this didn't print money like GTA did. Rockstar is probably not going to make anything they can't continue to monitize until the end of time again. RDR2 is probably the last honest game we're going to get from one of the best developers in the business.
>>717438316This thread is fucking trash but this post here.
Fuck you. The zombie dlc from RDR game was fucking great, and I wanted more of that but jewstar had to chase the online money instead
>>717442130I'm pretty confident RDR3 won't happen but not for that reason. I think coming off nearly two decades of only GTA and RDR they'll want to make something new.
>>717433742But you can look at animals without dlc you fucking idiot. Yes milking a game is good because the wolves lick their balls. Wow!
>>717422745 (OP)Dang ol' ragebait marketing
>>717442223But that was pure action. What do zombies have to do with deers taking a shit in the forest?
>>717442332marketing for a 7 year old game that's constantly on sale
>>717442130Oh so now milking Online is great because they cancelled RDO. Retarded contrarians at it again
>>717423625It's crazy that Skyrim with Ordinator is still undefeated to this day
>>717442476>7 years ago>still 60 US dollarsRagebait
>>717426117Pdo? Also what mods?
>>717442267I'm sure that's the developers positions, but Take Two is publicly traded, so they're going to maximize profit. Since RDR2 didn't make as much money as GTA, I doubt they're going to approve another game with the same scope that isn't named GTA. Too much risk.
>>717442497I said milking online is bad though.
>>717422745 (OP)>npcs follow programmed routine Just like the average /v/ poster.
yeah, gothic 2 had this in fucking 2002
>>717422745 (OP)Nice tech demo. Shitty video game.
>>717426556I thought the horse riding was awesome in RDR2
>>717423848They hated him because he told the truth, these videos attract your typical normalfags to engage or buy game.
>>717427612What are you on about cowboys are cool as fuck
t. Europoor
>>717423772go play tetris unc
>>717443648Go jack off to another hentai novella you faggot weeb trash
>>717443332>Ok but......................>Where's the gamepl-AAAAAAAAACKKKKK
>>717423490I really don't enjoy praising Starfield, but it took me longer to drop that shitheap than it did with RDR2. At least running around and doing things in Starfield ins't tedious as fuck.
>>717424010Yeah that's a common misconception, if faggot anon doesn't like something that makes it cringe and gay and soulless
>>717444553Your average RDR2 hater.
>>717422745 (OP)>zoomers are fawning after cycle based crowdstations as if it's new ultra modern tech RDR2 exclusiveWhat RDR2 has over others in this regard is that they are polished (although issues are still present such as the floating in the dog video posted in here) and they have smooth, detailed and lively animations for them which is no small feat to accomplish in an open world. If you are curios about an older title with CS setups of this calibre if not better in dynamism and uniqueness check Gothic 1 and 2.
>>717444553Come on now. starfield is literally more than 50% loading screen.
>>717444553>At least running around and doing things in Starfield ins't tedious as fuck.
>>717422745 (OP)Show me the stacks of boards then. Oh wait its just some gay ass loop.
>>717424052Games are made for mongs downies and kids. No game is immersive if you arent one of those.
>>717444553>At least running around and doing things in Starfield ins't tedious as fuck.
Yeah yeah its just some extra idle animations but this kind of thing is still more immersive than what most game devs do
>>717443332the weak fear the strong
>>717445264Post that one where Arthur walks into someone's home, kills the wife brutally, and exits the front door to casually greet her husband
>>717441248>not even 51/51 achievements
>>717422745 (OP)Instead of waisting their time on this shit maybe the should have improved the gameplay and story so instead of just ridimg your horse 98% of the game it was actually fun and engaging to play?
>>717432313same, shit made me laugh like a retard, especially how you see the sawhorse do its little jitter when it hits and the physics are reactivated
I have immersion fatigue, just make a normal fucking video game.
>>717423625You're not fooling anyone here Todd.
>>717426017I donโt care how nice the shooting is if every movement takes multiple second to pull off and Iโm constantly wading through what feels like mud
>>717424569kek i did that too
I really REALLY wanted to like this game. I think I have like 10 hours on it on PC because I just can't deal with how shitty it feels to control
>>717424569>Failed : You left the toilet seat upMakes you wonder if there's going to be an incel route for this in GTA6. Because you just know that the resident latinx is going to be throwing fits on an hourly basis.
>>717422745 (OP)What a waste of time and resources.
Developing AAA games is basically money laundering these days.
>>717448230Whenever people say "what a waste of time and resources" they sound so fucking stupid it's unreal. The only "wasted" thing there was maybe 1 (ONE) animator's 1 (ONE) day, who only spends time animating stuff. Everything else that goes into that little NPC, like modelling, rigging, lighting, coding, are resources that were spend not just for creating that, but for the entire game since that NPC can be used and re-used in multiple instances in the game. That 1 (ONE) animator has no idea about gameplay or how he could "improve" it (which he already did btw by making that little animation).
Basically, fuck you
>>717425641>uses photo mode>takes pictures of guysYou sound and act like a faggot.
>>717448230>Developing AAA games is basically money laundering these days.Don't say that part out too loud desu. You might minecrafted otherwise.
>>717441154what's wrong with the skybox in this game? why are the clouds so fucking blurry?
>>717448472This is the kind of person who enjoys cinematic gameplay and spending five minutes looting a cupboard because of all the cinematic animations. His opinion should be ignored.
>>717449367Uhh yeah, i actually do all that. Also my opinion matters just as much as any in this thread (not at all). But what i said was factual.
>>717422745 (OP)Majora's Mask did it in 2000.
>>717441148Crowbcat's comparisons were mostly focused on gameplay and not on background shit you don't interact with.
>>717422745 (OP)tiktok niggers need to die
>>717422745 (OP)Nintendo did this shit in 2000 on an n64.
>>717424052Right. I remember the game being hyped as having "organic and emergant" NPC interactions, with the horse kicking the guy and killing him as an example in the trailers. Like you said, I started noticing scripted events that were programmed to occur when the player was close by. You know, just like any other game.
>>717425129Yeah something Bethesda can't do for decades.
>>717443332>modern politics in a nutshell
>deviate from quest by one inch
>die
RDR2 is garbage
Damn, tendies still seethe about this game 7 years later.
It's less of a cowboy game and more of a cowboy sim. You're afforded very little agency in how you complete missions and when juxtaposed against the admittedly incredible polish of the very large setting it becomes even further frustrating for many people. The polish though is only surface level; the game looks very nice and there are plenty of details but only to the extent that interacting with the world becomes tedious. It doesn't help that the only real reward you get for most of the side content is just boring clothing or money that you can either spend on a handful of guns or more clothing.
>>717444553Ikr? I mean how can it be tedious when there is nothing to do
>>717423848You were right... until you made the bg3 remark. Way to fuck it up
>>717437163There won't be any rdr3 chucklefuck
>>717422986I guarantee they reused a lot of this stuff in GTA6
>>717440208Best part of Gothic 2 is when man cheers when you beat up his wife.
>>717422745 (OP)why didn't he just saw them up on the balcony
>>717438316this nigga's never heard of an expansion
>>717422745 (OP)RDR fags will do anything but talk about the gameplay because there is none.
lol
>>717463629how many posts about muh gameplay did you create so far? according to search, around 25..guessing most of them are yours
>>717422745 (OP)Don't Oblivion NPCs already do that?
>>717422745 (OP)This doesnt make anyone seethe. /v/ loves technology newfriend
>>717463983lol, just read the replies
>>717436930Why, Redditfrog?
Your posting slop why not play slop too?
>>717432814No one pissed and shit in it moron. Just don't use tiktok you screen obsessed faggot.
>>717423848Rockstar games had autistic amounts of detail long before social media was even a thing you fucking zoomer. Other studios such as Dice, Kojima Prod, and Bungie, etc also always went above and beyond and it was always generally considered to be very cool. Get the fuck off my board.
>>717422745 (OP)Red dead 3 should honestly be about jack marston getting drafted for world war 1 and going awol
>>717439915Yeah I remember failing the mission in San Andreas because I got into the "wrong" car.
I dropped this shit on PS4 after a few hours because 95 things were mapped to the same buttons so everything was contextual retardation. Is it better on PC since I have way more options with a keyboard?
>>717423126>AnimalsThey want the female audience.
>>717462107 he probably thinks GOTY editions are sequels too. next he's gonna say Witcher 3: Blood and Wine was โWitcher 4โ lmao.
>>717422745 (OP)This games gameplay is too shallow for me. The shootouts are so easy that it makes me wish there was another difficulty slider, but it tickles a specific itch where all the autism in my brain sits where I can just walk around and hunt animals and RP walk through towns and look at items and shit. I canโt articulate why I like it so much, because itโs a lot of window dressing, but itโs so much detail for such a huge budget game that itโs hard not to admire it.
>>717424721details are cool if the base gameplay is fun, when the details are the main selling point, then it's a problem