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Anonymous No.717435241 >>717435463 >>717435518 >>717435637 >>717435720 >>717436015 >>717436041 >>717436058 >>717436082 >>717438831 >>717439203 >>717439917 >>717440897 >>717442394 >>717442469 >>717443510 >>717444656 >>717446026
>no Nintendo site gave this a 10
Why is this the case?
Anonymous No.717435385
they're racist
Anonymous No.717435404 >>717435589 >>717435986 >>717436265 >>717437001
Because it's not a 10.
Anonymous No.717435443
They might have the recent 'Nintendo Fatigue'.
Anonymous No.717435463 >>717439345
>>717435241 (OP)
Many hardcore Nintendo fans that created these outlets like Nintendo Life hate DK because they feel it threatens Mario's dominance in the platformer genre. Thry don't care about Kirby because Kirby is irrelevant in terms of acclaim but DK they will rate it lower that s why tropical freeze has a low metas ore.
Anonymous No.717435518
>>717435241 (OP)
It's not call Mario. There is an anti DK bias in the nintendo fandom. I don't know what it is.
Anonymous No.717435589 >>717435787 >>717438543
>>717435404
Neither was Odyssey yet they gave that game plenty of 10s. Odyssey is worse than Bananza.
Anonymous No.717435637
>>717435241 (OP)
no Mario bonus
Anonymous No.717435720
>>717435241 (OP)
71 without bonus is about right.
Anonymous No.717435787
>>717435589
I think Odyssey is better.
Anonymous No.717435896 >>717436503 >>717437648 >>717437757 >>717437968 >>717439807
>Nintendo loyalists now throwing Odyssey under the bus for the sake of defending Newest Product
Man the script-flip on the Zelda games here is going to be fucking BRUTAL lol
Anonymous No.717435986 >>717436040 >>717438543 >>717440035
>>717435404
neither was TOTK nor Odyssey yet they didn't bother giving those perfect scores. Bananza is a better game than both
Anonymous No.717436015 >>717436408
>>717435241 (OP)
Why does DK have 134 reviews but E33 only has 84?
Anonymous No.717436040 >>717439553
>>717435986
It's better than TotK for sure, not Odyssey.
Anonymous No.717436041
>>717435241 (OP)
bias against DK, compare the scores of Tropical Freeze and Mario Wonder when the first one is a million times better.
Anonymous No.717436058 >>717436118
>>717435241 (OP)
What do snoys have to cope about now that Nintendo sites are harsher with 1st party games compared to Sony sites?
Anonymous No.717436082 >>717437556
>>717435241 (OP)
Anti-cartoon game minus points, even if Nintendo fag sites. Tons of they have Zelda bias still to this day
Anonymous No.717436118 >>717436158
>>717436058
They don't even have exclusives, why would they care about scores anymore?
Anonymous No.717436158
>>717436118
we just don't know.
Anonymous No.717436185 >>717445676
because it's a non-game. it's a sandbox with no stakes.
Anonymous No.717436265 >>717436315
>>717435404
you're right, it should be an 11 for a game of this masterpiece
Anonymous No.717436315
>>717436265
a 12, even! truly the greatest game of all time.
Anonymous No.717436408 >>717437050 >>717437136
>>717436015
Everyone wants to play DK and not E33.
Anonymous No.717436503 >>717436910
>>717435896
I think Odyssey is great. But it's pretty self-evident that the devs have improved a lot since they made Odyssey. And they were also able to work on Bananza for longer than they were on Odyssey.
It's the better game in most of every facet. From slight to huge improvements.

But you won't see me saying Odyssey is bad. It's not. Bananza is just a lot better.
Anonymous No.717436910 >>717439928
>>717436503
>It's the better game in most of every facet. From slight to huge improvements.
expand on this
Anonymous No.717437001
>>717435404
spbp
Anonymous No.717437050
>>717436408
Only toddlers and manchildren want to play DK tho
Anonymous No.717437136
>>717436408
there's a lot of nintendo only sites.
Anonymous No.717437556
>>717436082
zoomers don't know this but nintendo power used to hate zelda i'm talking back in the 90s when zelda was at its peak. they never gave a zelda game a perfect score back then
Anonymous No.717437648 >>717438778
>>717435896
Odyssey is no masterpiece

6/10
Anonymous No.717437757 >>717438778
>>717435896
/v/ was always lukewarm on Odyssey even going back to 2017, zoomer. Majority of /v/ preferred BOTW and Xenoblade 2 as the best Nintendo games that year.
Anonymous No.717437954 >>717438524 >>717438543 >>717438752 >>717439121
>only 91/100? must be a shit game
only on /v/ will you ever hear this
Anonymous No.717437968
>>717435896
I can only speak for myself, but Odyssey was my personal GOTY in 2017. I still love it, and I love Bananza.
Anonymous No.717438524 >>717438778
>>717437954
you see the comment in most enthusiast spaces. people aren't blind to trends. the aggregate score for AAA games has been trending up for over a decade, so now 91 has a new meaning compared to 2005.
Anonymous No.717438543
>>717435589
>>717435986
It's just telling that this game worse than those two, if shittendo bonus omitted from all three scores. That's it.
>>717437954
Blue Prince rated higher. Blue fucking Prince.
Anonymous No.717438662
not enough BIPOC representation
Anonymous No.717438752
>>717437954
91/100 would be good for a normal game, but this is a nintenbro game which means it gets an automatic +50 to whatever score it actually deserves.
It's a 41/100 game in reality.
Anonymous No.717438778
>>717437648
>>717437757
>>717438524

You lost and got raped,,, Eric.
Anonymous No.717438831 >>717439956
>>717435241 (OP)
It's a worse Mario Odyssey
Anonymous No.717439121 >>717439956
>>717437954
for a big game made by the Mario team? it's low
Anonymous No.717439203 >>717439345 >>717439956
>>717435241 (OP)
>worse uglier odyssey with weird framerate issues starring FaggyKong
Anonymous No.717439345 >>717439542
>>717439203
point proven>>717435463
Anonymous No.717439542
>>717439345
I actually like DK pre bananza, but bananza is an ugly game with an ugly donkey Kong.
Anonymous No.717439553 >>717439956
>>717436040
>better than TotK for sure, not Odyssey
Nintendo's 3D platformers are in a far better state than modern Zelda. Odyssey is a literal unironic 10/10. It is more than the sum of its parts, and overall it more than makes up for any specific flaws. TotK is 5/10 if we're being generous, the flaws are very apparent from the beginning and only become more apparent the more you play. On the other hand, 9/10 seems fair for Bananza, it has too much focus on breaking things and a couple of the bananzas are borderline useless, whereas Odyssey had a lot more variety in how you get moons, and the captures are unique and interesting. 9/10 is still very good though.
Anonymous No.717439807 >>717439956
>>717435896
They already flipped on TOTK
Anonymous No.717439917
>>717435241 (OP)
It's not called Mario. Literally if it was the same game except just replace DK with Mario and K. Rool with Bowser it would have a 95+
Anonymous No.717439928 >>717440770
>>717436910
For one the Golden Bananas are handled a lot better than Odyssey's Moons.
There are still plenty of them and they encourage you to observe and explore every perspective and angle of the world. But thanks to Bananza having a lot more depth to its stage design, very few moons are actually just out in the open. And there is a much wider variety of gameplay tasks tied to acquire bananas too.
And related to that. Even with Mario's Cappy, DK still has more movement options and tricks than Mario.
Bananza's challenge rooms are also broadly a step up from the comparable challenges in Odyssey. Elaborating on direct comparisons would take an entire thread though.

But Bananza also doesn't progress-gate you with its bananas the way Odyssey does with its moons.
This makes Bananza a game where progress itself is actually rather linear, while side content is open ended and plentiful. Unlike Odyssey where progress is gated yet for the most part also lacking in direction. Both games benefit from the strengths of open exploration, but Bananza benefits from both it and guided direction. It gets to have its cake and eat it too. Odyssey does the open exploration really well, but it doesn't so much benefit from the former.

And lastly. And though this is more taste and less subjective I guess. Bananza is also more challenging broadly and will happily punish both small and minor mistakes more harshly and more frequently than Odyssey will. Both in combat and from environmental hazards. And I personally think that's a plus.
Anonymous No.717439956 >>717442257
>>717438831
>>717439121
>>717439203
>>717439807
>>717439553
You lost and got raped,,, Eric.
Anonymous No.717440035 >>717440741
>>717435986
I know most people who browse /v/ are probably too young to remember or experience the Gamespot review fiasco for Twilight Princess, but that's probably that whole event was probably the reason why reviewers will never give a single mainline Zelda game a score below 90.
Anonymous No.717440741 >>717440902
>>717440035
what about the time neogaf (sony central, now resetera) had a meltdown when Uncharted 3 got an 8? it was worse than 8.8

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/uncharted-3-reviews.448512/
Anonymous No.717440770 >>717441758
>>717439928
>And there is a much wider variety of gameplay tasks tied to acquire bananas too
this is where i disagree. i think donkey kong is easier to control than mario, and he has less limits in interacting with the game world. i dont think the average banandium gem in bananza actually asks for much, a lot of the game falls to pressing the r button and punching through rocks, which is very routine and boring and shitty. if we were to count up the total number of ways you are 'supposed to' collect banandium gems in bananza and the total number of the same in odyssey, it maybe is true that bananza wins here, but what i would say is, the variety doesn't really matter in bananza, because the game is too permissive. it doesn't care about what you do. it doesn't have a preference in most cases. like yes, bananza has combat and odyssey doesnt, but the combat is almost nothing, it doesn't add much at all. the substance of everything in bananza is lacking, even if the quantity is there.
Anonymous No.717440897
>>717435241 (OP)
S E E T H E
Anonymous No.717440902
>>717440741
>6k posts for a review thread
Anonymous No.717441758 >>717445314
>>717440770
>a lot of the game falls to pressing the r button and punching through rocks
But even when you locate a banana through the hand slapping, the banana is more often than not only accessible from a specific angle and it's rare for you to be able to just dig straight to it from the first location you find it. That is not to say that it is necessarily difficult or anything to reach them after you've found them, but it's certainly more involved than just using the sonar and then digging straight.
Meanwhile Odyssey would have moons that were genuinely just straight up in the open. A lot of them are acquired by doing something simple like a ground pound or something.

Wouldn't you agree that using the sonar in Bananza is more involved than simply having the correct camera angle like in Odyssey? And that digging, no matter what angles or length of digging needed, is more involved than doing a ground pound or letting cappy spin on something?
Both games have bananas/moons that are significantly more involved than these. But I'd certainly say that Bananza's basic bananas are a lot more engaging than Odyssey's basic moons.

I'll also repeat myself before anyone gets the wrong idea. I do still think and have always thought that the even the basic moons in Odyssey are good since they incentivise the player to observe the world from all angles and to really explore all nooks and crannies. But. Bananza's basic bananas still does this job better while being slightly less basic than the basic moons.
Anonymous No.717442257
>>717439956
cope, olimpo
Anonymous No.717442394
>>717435241 (OP)
They want to give 10s to the 3d Mario next year instead
Anonymous No.717442469
>>717435241 (OP)
coordinated effort to deny the game the points it deserves
Anonymous No.717443510
>>717435241 (OP)
Western media intends on propping up Metroid Prime 4 as part of larger effort to stop the bleeding in the western game industry and losing Retro would be a disaster.
Anonymous No.717444656
>>717435241 (OP)
snoys in charge on nintendo sites
Anonymous No.717445314
>>717441758
>>Wouldn't you agree that using the sonar in Bananza is more involved than simply having the correct camera angle like in Odyssey? And that digging, no matter what angles or length of digging needed, is more involved than doing a ground pound or letting cappy spin on something?
yes, i think it's pretty indisputable it's more involved. my thought would be that it's more time into something that as not-fun as the two examples you gave. i have to spend more effort on an unfun task meaning i have more total time having no fun going for some banana than i do in odyssey.
Anonymous No.717445676
>>717436185
t. didn't play
Anonymous No.717446026
>>717435241 (OP)
It's surprising because it's way better than Odyssey.