Thread 717440223

Get in here shmupfags! Gradius Origins is out and so is Operation Night Strikers!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2897590/GRADIUS_ORIGINS/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3099790/Operation_Night_Strikers/

When I play space games, I always use ships that look like Vic Viper.

>>717440223 (OP)
!

>>717440223 (OP)
you are not a 60 year old japanese man

What's the veredict on Salamander III?

>>717440223 (OP)
>35usd

fuck OFF

>>717440946
why would a space ship need wings

>>717441998
I've been doing nothing but watching shmup videos lately so the youtube algorithm thinks I am one. You think this will let me dodge the ID check?

>>717442359
YWNBAO

>>717440223 (OP)
have the games been enhanced or is just MAME ?

Anyone got a nsp/xci link?

>>717442168
Looks too much like a remix of the first game IMO.
https://youtu.be/-FL7mJrkWJY?si=X7klypY8xk8zTgxn
I'll still play it someday. Although gradius III AM version interests me more.

>>717442221
That's M2 for (you). Either wait for the sale or pirate

>>717442221
Retard

>>717442594
There is a new Salamander game.
The rest, you can just emulate I guess.

>>717444480
It's on steam

man Nighstriker OST is so good !
Gradius is super expensive tho wtf

>>717446989
Only the first 2 levels, Then we get the first gradius stage, moais and some other unique ones.

I'm still annoyed as shit the collection does include IV, V and gaiden.
What is it with Konami and hiding playstation games?

>>717446989
What the fuck already? who could possibly do a multiloop clear of a game that just releas-
Oh it's jam ears, carry on. Pretty impressive, genuinely how does something like that even happen this quickly? I know the guy is a massive shmup autist but man.

>>717446989
>gradius III AM version

yeah... so far no one has explained what that even is, but they say its very special or something. does anybody know?

Oh shit, I played Space Gun in the arcade. Neat, but I don't see a point playing a light gun game with a mouse. It's like playing DDR with a gamepad or keyboard.

>>717449741
>I don't see a point playing a light gun game with a mouse
good question how are you supposed to play these games ? There has to be something more than just using your mouse. The steam page shills the "Cyber Stick intelligent controller" but it's a 200€ contraption that doesn't look very good either...

Replace Nintendo with Konami and Taito

>Gray Layer
Isn't this the beta version of Jade Knight from Gradius Gaiden? Whats the difference?

>>717440223 (OP)
Yuzo Koshiro released a shmup too on July.
https://bravewave.bandcamp.com/track/terminal-doctrine

>>717440223 (OP)
I already got Gradius origins, weird how they're releasing Operation Night Strikes simultaneously.
Kind of wish there was only an option to get Night Strikers stand alone - also shame they didn't port the Sega Saturn version.

>>717440223 (OP)
Salamander III is pretty good.

>>717440223 (OP)
We're almost there.

>>717449737
A prototype version of Gradius 3 with major differences from the final game. There's a God Mode included due to how bullshit hard this version is compared to the final version.

>>717452121
i just want to know when is NightStriker Gear getting released,

that game is looking awesome, but so far theres no definite release date other than '2025'.

>>717454340
thanks... it does sound like that version was dumped anyway at some point or something if people know said differences?

test

>>717454561
>i just want to know when is NightStriker Gear getting released
right after aleste branch

>>717454609
B-, you passed!

>>717454561
>it does sound like that version was dumped anyway at some point or something if people know said differences?
It was never dumped. M2 managed to find the PCB inside Konami's archives by accident. The only major difference known so far is the desert stage, which is completely different from the final game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2mBaTEjmVE&t=177s

Also, M2 has teased that the infamous cube section from the game is even worse and far more difficult than the final version. The reason they included God Mode is because of this section alone.

I want to buy the Gradius collection but I simply love Night striker yet the rest of the operation night striker pack doesn't look very interesting (how does it fare with mouse control ?) so here I am, can't choose...

>>717449349
Blame Konami for being retards with pricing

>>717456469
unfortunately the gradius pricing is LESS retarded than operation night striker

BOOMERS OUTEE WIDDAY GRADY AHH GAME

watched a stream earlier, listing notable stuff off the top of my head
>jade knight is an unlockable ship in salamander 3
>salamander 3 looks hard as fuck
>AM is unfinished and ends at stage 7, the cube stage
>the cube stage has a unique crystal themed boss instead of a core ship
>the bubble stage has a second space section in between bubble themed terrain
>the plant stage resembles the gieger-esque stage from gradius 2 at first before being fully overtaken by plants
>the underground section of the volcano stage is very simplified and doesn't have its own music

>>717440223 (OP)
Already own Night Striker S for my Sega Saturn, no need to buy this. Though I WILL buy M2's Night Striker Gear when it comes out, physically if possible.

>rehashius
0 fucks

>>717457280
>Jade Knight
Gray Layer.

WHEN'S PARODIUS?

>>717440223 (OP)
why are all spaceships always designed like a boat when there's no up or down in space? Isn't the bottom half of every spaceship basically wasted space?

>>717440223 (OP)
>paying for roms and stolen emulator code

my sides

>>717458102
because it's cool.

>>717457280
Anything about the cube section?

i 1cc'd salamander 3 on my second attempt. i was hoping it would be a little tougher than haunted castle revisited, but whatever.

>>717455061
This guy clearly didn't play Gradius 3 because the 'sand dragon' was used as the boss for the fire stage.

>>717440223 (OP)
>new gradius :)
>it's a literal asset flip remix of 40 year old content :(

Why bother making a thread. We all know how to use emulators.

>>717440223 (OP)
>no rastan+cadash collection
>no cameltry
>darius collection is 50 bucks
fuck squareenix-owned taito

>>717458745
>collection comes with a brand new game in the series after a decade and a never seen before prototype
>Why bother making a thread
Faggot

>>717458650
Memorization is half of it. Keeping your cool when things don't go pixel-perfect movement and NOT CHOKING is the other half.

Denuvo status?

>>717458650
The best shmups are the ones that hit the sweet spot where there's memorization involved but just some muscle memory and pure skill will get you through.

>>717459771
See, this nigga gets it.

>>717459679
None.

>>717440223 (OP)
Is there a light gun accessory for PC?

>>717459178
PC fags just looking for another excuse to steal games.

Gaydiusbros...

Shame they didn't include Gradius Rebirth but whatever, it's good enough that they made Salamander 3.
Not really sold on Night Strikers because of the scummy DLC from M2. Reminds me of Mushi Futari situation, they ported it to Xbox 360 but made 1.01 and Black Label fucking DLC for already full price release, meanwhile Espgaluda 2, made in-house by Cave had all of its content and even more game modes on the 360 with zero DLC. M2 were always greedy jews.

>>717454135
>lord british
Nice reference.

>>717460239
>check negative reviews
>it's a chink
Of course.

>>717442168
Solid shmup, pretty satisfied. Gets pretty funny on loop 4 onwards

>all cheevos let you use savestates and rewind to get them
lame

>>717460846
>cheevos
What goofy ass cereal is that?

No gaiden no buy-den
No five no buy-ve

>>717461187
Yeah, same boat. Hell, if they just released Gaiden or V on their own, I'd double dip. (I own them on PS1 and PS2 respectively)
I really wish M2's Aleste Collection included Super, MUSHA, and Robo. That game was stingy but I bought it mostly for GG Aleste 3.

>>717460846
That has been a thing since forever in every M2STG collection.

>>717442168
It certainly is more Salamander. It has some pretty tough areas but the generous amount of lives coupled with how deaths work kind of evens it out. A 1cc shouldn't be too hard. Vic Viper is probably the best ship. Can't speak for everyone but I really enjoy it.

I brought Mushihimesama

>>717464726
>Cave shit

>>717464790
Yup
https://streamable.com/zu79s6

>>717465092
Cavetards are the speedrunners of the shmup community.

>>717465208
Explain yourself

>>717465092
How much time did you spend on the game and are you using your own route?

>>717465363
They are both mentally ill and love to play the shittiest games with the shittiest game designs.

>>717465437
Combining the hours I have from the Switch and PC, about 100+ hours, and my Ultra PB is Aki tlb with a little amount of hp. Most of the routes are taken from many replays that I lwatch and study, but some are of my own. The execution of these routes is important, however

>>717465828
Yeah, that's exactly the same normal behavior of a tranny speedrunner.

>>717465532
>love to play the shittiest games with the shittiest game designs.
From what would you compare CAVE games to something superior in your opinion?
And what does that superior game do better than a CAVE one?

>>717466328
So, actively improving on a game is tranny behaviour?

>>717466471
All Cave are the same kind of shit, the same kind of ugly and the same kins of cringefest. Sorry if you wasted hundreds of hours in them.

>>717465828
I only asked if the routes were your own because I think that takes considerably more time unless you're someone like Jaimers.
And are you using the cheese strat or are you trying to dodge the final pattern of the TLB?

>>717466581
>All Cave are the same kind of shit, the same kind of ugly and the same kins of cringefest
Really? Is Dangun Feveron the same as Progear for example? Dodonpachi with Ibara?

>>717466650
>And are you using the cheese strat or are you trying to dodge the final pattern of the TLB?
The cheese strat. I'm not dodging that shit, and extra points for the cheese strats because is pretty fun when you pull it off

>>717442289
Planetary landings? The US space shuttle was basically a massive glider.

>>717440223 (OP)
Is it? I thought Gradius Origins was supposed to drop tomorrow.

>>717466861
Usually I'd be against cheesing but the difficulty spike in the final pattern is so absurd that I'd do the same.

https://twitter.com/ZXRC93_STG/status/1953222719530778825
input lag testing for each game
Pretty great overall, although I find it very strange that Salamander III is at 3~4 frames

>No NES version of Gradius and Gradius 2
>No SNES version of Gardius 3
>No Gradius IV, V or Gaiden
Why is Konami hiding IV in particular? It hasn't gotten an archive archive version either.

>>717450103
Probably a wiimote

>>717466328
Imagine gatekeeping bullet hells like you're defending some ancient monastery. Bro, people wanna git gud at dodging death confetti, not prove they're manly for learning a boss route. Let people enjoy playing games hard enough to turn your brain into soup.

>>717468757
>>No NES version of Gradius and Gradius 2
I get that G3 is bullshit to the point westerners only want to play the easier snes version, but I have no idea why you'd want the nes version of G1 and 2 unless you're just a tendie. The arcade versions are already fairly easy and if you really wanted a home version included, the PCE and MSX versions both have a bunch of cool additions, and visual enhancements in the case of the PCE version. All the NES versions do is remove stuff.

>>717469545
My nigga.

>>717466328
>Outs himself as an election tourist

>>717470318
>Outs himself as a jewsky tourist

>>717470672
Do you even play shmups?

>>717470793
Yes I just got my first shitclear in 2hu UFO. I normally veer towards dadshmups and CAVE + some non-2hu doujin stuff, so this is pretty new for me. I remember finding the series way less fun desu.

>>717468757
>Why is Konami hiding IV in particular?
M2 confirmed in an interview that they didn't had time to include the game before launch, plus emulating a game running on PowerPC hardware being a nightmare to run on their own emulator (and before anyone mentions Gradius III and IV and the PSP collection, those weren't handled by M2)

>>717448426
Considering Salamander 2 sucked; I'd bet 3, made decades later, is awful.
t. someone who has Life Force in his top 10

>>717471052
>Getting word filtered
LOL

>>717471846
Problem, fampai?

BEHOLD
IT'S CUBED, BUT WORSE
https://www.youtube.com/live/4kwOkrD_Au4?si=vp8LXGcm6dmCpGLx&t=9474

>>717471846
I explicitly type desu. Sometimes I say tbdesu, but often just desu.

>>717472105
>Reddit frog
Normalfags, yuck.

>>717472517
>live

>>717473265
frog website.

Clips?

>>717466581
Based Xoxak.

Now THIS is a real “shoot-em-up!” Not like that DingDongwhatchi CRAP... just more cookie-cutter, boring “shots-everywhere” junk to BORE me to TEARS, sorry. Last one of these new games I tried was Ikaraga… Sorry! but I learned to play color-matching games when I was two, don’t need to do it anymore! Deleted THAT computer application from my Dell desktop after about 20 minutes.

R-Type, Gradius, Darius… those classics are a little more up MY alley. No TINY hitboxes to make the game look harder than it is, no half-naked japanimation cartoon girls, no gimmicky scoring to cover up the total lack of any real substance… just a little thing called good old-fashioned GAMEPLAY that seems to be forgotten nowadays… yep, I love all the super-duper powerups, and checkpoints.. yes recovery is HARD but not IMPOSSIBLE. You actually have to put in a little elbow grease to get your strength back! Something the little ones today could stand to learn from, if you ask me! They seem to want games where you can kill everything on the screen with one button press, right after inserting a coin! Instant gratification with no challenge for the participation-trophy generation. And personally, I usually prefer a “side-view” kind of shooter compared to a “bird’s eye view” one, all those obstacles give levels a lot more personality, not such a common thing when every me-too game wants to look and play the same.

Me, I’ve been playing a lot of R-Type part two lately. I can only clear a couple of boards on my first man right now. I may wear out my joystick before I can manage my one quarter win! But I don’t quit! What can I say, I prefer a little hard work to getting a free handout! Playing some Wings of Wor on my Sega too, and Bio-Hazard Battle. Great vintage stuff!

>>717473569
Only for the normalfags like you

>>717474134
Not sure if this is real or a copypasta. Either way I agree.

>>717474134
Boomer.

>>717474134
HoriGOD.

>>717442289
Cassomir effect aelerons for rapid maneuverability

>>717473265
>>717474238
The PDS (Pepe Derangement Syndrome) is real.
Furthermore: Point out what part of >>717472105 even mentions Pepe.

>>717475147
>Election tourists can't meme
Typical

>>717472517
>constantly fires those fucking spread bombs when there're no valid targets to hit with it

>>717475182
PDS

>>717475229
>He's a bot too

>>717472517
The revenge of the cube.

Cube strike back.

>>717475259
Schizo

>>717440223 (OP)
>repackage 4 shitty old roms into an emulator
>that'll be 30 bucks gaijin

>>717475294
>All he can spam are reddit frogs
The sad state of election tourists.

Oh no, kidneybros...

thoughts on earthion

>>717475713
Thunderbolt is the best song in the franchise

>>717475713
kidney stones confirmed unbeatable

>>717474238
*for everyone on this frog website

>>717475182
>Jewsky tourist can only mald
Typical

>>717476254
>>717476134
>Election tourists are still seething and can only spam reddit frogs

Well?

>>717477572
>Ginga Force

>>717477726
Can't please everyone, I guess. To each their own. I'm still in the process of unlocking everything in the shop, so no matter how badly I do, it never feels like I'm wasting time.

what shmups have the best girls. this is very important to me. i already know of sengoku blade.

>>717476880
Akai Katana
Raystorm
Guwange
Gun Frontier
DaiOuJou
R-Type

Don't know
SaiDaiOuJou
Guwange
ZeroRanger
DaiFukkatsu
Don't know

Metal Black
Darius Gaiden
Silver Hawk Gaiden
Espgaluda
SaiDaiOuJou
Darius Force

Darius
Akai Katana
Gradius III
The Ray series
Blue Wish Desire
Sonic Wings

>>717440223 (OP)
>40 bucks

>doesn't include Gradius 4, the only one you can't emulate on original hardware
>includes 1-3, Life Force, and Salamander 2; which can be emulated on original hardware well
>doesn't include any Parodius games, regardless of emulatabilitismosity
It's like Konami's ashamed of their only good games.

>>717480612
Parodius is considered its own thing tbf

That said, it doesn't change the fact that konami themselves made a better gradius selection games over 10 years ago on the goddamn psp

>>717480734
It stars both the Vic Viper and the Lord British (and are the only games outside of Salamander to include the latter).

>>717449737
>6 Ripple Laser shots per ship/option for a maximum of 30 shots on screen
Balancing in progress. Please wait warmly

>>717480141
Aaaaaand into the wishlist it goes.

>>717480612
It's not MAME and a bunch of roms in a folder, you know
If you want the cheapo shit with as many games as possible, you wouldn't be buying an M2 collection the first place

>>717480141
>>717481076
>40
Sure you aren't talking about the LRG version?
https://limitedrungames.com/collections/all-in-production/products/switch-limited-run-279-gradius-origins

>>717480612
M2 has said they couldn't get Gradius IV running on the Switch. Doesn't excuse the lack of Gradius Gaiden however.