>Universally viewed as an irredeemable villain 20 years ago
>A bunch of video games and a TV show later
>Now seen as a cunning and pragmatic anti-hero
How the FUCK did this happen

>>717440341 (OP)
You just described what happened. Did you really need to post a thread for this? All fields btw

>>717440450
/thread

Throwback to when Adam Savage sat there laughing and rewinding "I am Cao Pi" on xplay. Nigger was never funny.

>>717440341 (OP)

>>717440341 (OP)
mogged by liu bei

>>717440341 (OP)
>>Universally viewed as an irredeemable villain 20 years ago
Literally sandal peddler propaganda

>>717441920

>be cow cow
>not a single S tier general
L

>>717440341 (OP)
I find him relatable.

>>717442967
>Who's Cao Ren
>Who's Zhang Liao

benevolence
ambition
tiger

cow cow was a baddy 25 years ago and is still a baddy now. Shu are the good guys. Wu don't matter.

>>717441920
I used to think this and then I actually read Ro3K and Liu Bei is an absolute fucking idiot

>>717440341 (OP)
stfu midget

>>717442967
>Casually makes an army 10x the size retreat

Retarded fatso

>>717447198

##### Daily reminder Chinks believe this is true #####

>>717447423
There is literally nothing unrealistic about the story once you know how ancient armies work.

>>717441920
Even in the TV Series Liu Bei is kind of retarded and incompetent.

>>717441920
Liu Bei is only being remembered because of the people that surround him. Cao Cao is remembered because of himself.

>>717448121
Only because later writers reinterpreted him and his followers to push Song-Yuan era ideals that a “perfect ruler” did nothing but delegate power to super talented subordinates.

>>717440341 (OP)
based
Cao Cao wining even thousands of years after death