Ummm... niohsissies? Are we hyped?

>>717441160 (OP)
Yes, I Am Nioh.

When will people realize that 1v1's in action games are total dogshit? It's literally turn based in disguise.
At least playing your character is fun in nioh and enemies provide some pushback to you, something like dmc is a total joke boss fight wise.

>>717441160 (OP)
Hell yeah my Niohggers

i'm not hyped because i have to build a new fucking pc to handle teamninjas dogshit ports

>>717441160 (OP)
yeah, im niohying it up real hard irght now

>>717441160 (OP)
I didn’t like 1 or 2 so no

It has a lot to live up to. Nioh 1 was fantastic and Nioh 2 was even better. But I am looking forward to it.

You guys got your Alpha hat?

>>717441160 (OP)
>That alpha
They still don't know how to make bosses...

these games are ass. 0 sauce or attention to presentation. dropped it almost instantly.

>>717441160 (OP)
>split up weapons into samurai/ninja gimmick
>loot system is still not fixed
>skill system is still boring and retarded
I would rather play good games

>>717441160 (OP)
Yeah?
>4 weapons at the same time

Did anybody else read the feedback report from the demo? There's a fairly long list of planned changes.

https://teamninja-studio.com/nioh3/us/feedback.html

>>717442194
>0 sauce or attention to presentation.
You are gay

>>717442792
i start a new game and it puts me in a weird room where i walk around and pick two weapons. 0 explanation what's going on, it drops me in something that feels like a dev test room. great way to start the game. UNINSTALLED. 0 sauce. next game.

>>717441160 (OP)
woke company so no. fuckem.

>>717441160 (OP)
It looks like they're taking the ER route and making bigger Nioh. I'm all about it.

>>717443190
<--- Truth

>>717441160 (OP)
I am the niohnigger and I will be pre ordering

>>717441160 (OP)
body type slop - no buy

>>717442467
I sent feedback to remove body types, if they didn't listen I will pirate

>>717443190
Yeah they woke up and made game of the decade

>>717441160 (OP)
I can finally BE him.

>>717441294
What does that have to do with anything

>>717441294
>actively reacting to the game = turn based

>>717441160 (OP)
>2025
>getting hyped
Every game is unsalvageable trash until it's out, immediate post release patches and crack included.

>>717442467
Overall the feedback report is extremely good and makes a lot of necessary changes. A few things are missing still and thinking they need to nerf anything at all even slightly is stupid but it shows their mind is for the most part in the right place.

>>717445041
I will get hyped and I will enjoy my game thank you

>>717441160 (OP)
I haven't played the demo so maybe I shouldn't comment but it just seems too complicated. I already thought Nioh 2 was just shoving mechanics in for the sake of it and Nioh 3 is adding an entire stance switch button that can be done in the middle of combos to basically double your moveset, and it seems to restrict certain weapons to this ninja form?
I am gonna get called a brainlet (and my brain is pretty smooth) but I don't really feel like dealing with ki pulses, swapping stances mid attack string, and then also swapping forms all in one combo.
btw I played and liked Nioh 1 and 2 and am fine with Ki Pulsing.

>>717441160 (OP)
>Are we hyped?
No, this is a clear move of desperation by Team Ninja after every single thing they've done after Nioh 2 has failed.

As per usual, I expect this crap to come out horrendously optimized, with stutters to the max, and jeet generation required.

>>717444764
It wouldn't be turn based if there were more to 1v1 boss fights other than free attack opportunities after a bit of reactionary defense, that makes every 1v1 insanely boring and formulaic

>>717445267
>is adding an entire stance switch button that can be done in the middle of combos to basically double your moveset, and it seems to restrict certain weapons to this ninja form?
Stranger of paradise already did this. Albeit without stance switching on top. Incredibly fun mechanic there so I'm happy we'll be seeing it here. 2 different styles of play + 2weapons each is insane potential for FUN

I didn't even know there was a test going on what the hell.
But I love Nioh. I'm a straight Niohgger and I will fist people and occasionally hit'em with an odachi.

Yes and recent survey results show that the game was recieved positively

https://teamninja-studio.com/nioh3/us/feedback.html

>>717445457
>free attack opportunities after a bit of reactionary defense
>he doesn't know how to punish during the bosses attack phase
NGMI https://youtu.be/UhQo1PBRdKQ?si=b2gbxAspLhX2KFm_

>>717445172
Your loss.
There's literally nothing to be gained from hype:
>you expect nothing, game is shit
No disappointment
>you expect nothing, game is good
Great joy
>you expect a lot, game is shit
Great disappointment
>you expect a lot, game is good
Great joy

I never played Nioh 2, am I missing out?

I for one love the ninja mode. It's how I wanted 2kat to be all this time

>>717445974
this hardly changes anything as this just gives you more attack opportunities for passing a reaction check, you are still in a waiting phase for it to appear to start your offense
also forgot to add that design like this is completely static and doesn't require any adaptation beyond the initial learning of boss's patterns and moves, which is pretty boring too

>>717446327
It's one of my favourite games, but a lot of people bounce off because they find the combat too burdensome to learn.
Just don't go in expecting dark souls, expect a mix of monster hunter and diablo.

>>717445267
Switching forms in nioh 3 can be used to burst counter (there's also another way to burst counter without switching), which oddly enough helps continue your ability to be aggressive. In the demo it didnt really feel that tacked on and I feel as though people complaining about it(not you) did not genuinely work with and just wanted a nioh 2 copy

>>717446327
Much like the other anon it's one of my favourite games. Highly recommend it

>>717446623
Interesting. Better dust off the Piss5.

>>717441160 (OP)
I wish they dropped stamina and just did what SOP did.
I am over stamina bars bros.

>>717446781
ki pulse is fun dou

>>717446560
>this hardly changes anything as this just gives you more attack opportunities for passing a reaction check
And tell me in what way does that make it turn based? If I am constantly reacting to the bosses moveset and countering with my own, that still means I'm actively engaging with the games core mechanics as opposed to waiting with little to no input as one would playing turn based.

>>717441160 (OP)
I'm excited but I'm going to miss Nioh 2 splitstaff. Ninja mode sounds cool on paper but I wish it didn't come at the cost of certain weapon types having their old movesets taken away. At least fists are still in so I'll still be able to run my Kukai-inspired warrior monk build

>>717446936
Ye it is I just loved SOP so much. NIOH doesnt have that click moment when you learn all the moves a boss has and you know exactly what you can dodge, block or burst counter, atleast it never happened for me in NIOH

>>717446781
>turning skill resource management from being easily managed at level 1 to equipment related busy work

Current system is fine, ki pulsing is fun

>>717447024
I would until the full game releases, we have some evidence(from stuff people found out of bounds) that most weapons are in the game and thry might have ninja or samurai variants

>>717446954
you having to respect him and wait until he does something to start playing makes it flow like a turn based game, very static design, you could mount a press x to get your turn to Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story and it'll be turn based still

>>717446781
>I am over stamina bars bros.
AI Limit doesn't use a stamina system but it's also more soulsloppy than Nioh, so there's that

>>717446771
Also pro-tips:
>ki pulse is a mandatory combat skill
>blocking is good, don't rely on dodging alone
>ki pulse is a mandatory combat skill
>don't obsess over gear in your first playthrough, it only matters in advanced ng+ cycles
>ki pulse is a mandatory combat skill
>raise every stat to minimum 20, I prefer 30 before starting to care about builds
>ki pulse is a mandatory combat skill
Also I should mention that ki pulse is a mandatory combat skill.
And to make sure you don't forget, ki pulse is a mandatory combat skill.
Am I clear? Ki pulse is a mandatory combat skill.

>>717446954
and also, when you get your hit in on the boss he can't contest you in any way until his hitstun timer wears off, that's pretty turn based too

>>717441160 (OP)
Depends
Day release on PC means I can probably brute force it at 60fps since I have a 4090 and could do that with Rise of the Ronin

n the other hand even if that is playable, it depends on the engine. I'm not sure if it was just the janky engine or just the janky framte but timnig felt off for a lot of shit in the demo. I hope it's just the demo being sub 40fps in some cases

That said, hatchets are in so motherfucker, yes.
ninjutsu being limited to ninja but let's you get it back in combat via damage done is interesting

>>717441160 (OP)
what time period/era is it set in?

>>717447404
Thanks.
So I should use ki pulse or no?

>>717447519
I picked up a 5070ti after the trailer dropped kek

>>717447404
doing your combo into ki pulse into the low stance switch is so sick and fun

>>717447404
Honestly never engaged with nioh 2 past dream of the strong because I just found building to be too daunting. If im focusing on splitstaff and onmyo for my current playthrough. What sort of build should I go for? Rn I have both a fire and purity split staff with some of my armor pieces thst accumulate fire and purity faster (plus ho-oh spirit)

>>717445267
I played the alpha, it's not complicated at all. Ninja is basically more like a new "class" or "job". It's one stance only but has ninjutsu instead and better air combat.

>>717447598
Ki pulse is actually overrated, you only need to learn if you want to have fun.
You can totally go without as long as you're willing to play the nioh equivalent of fatrolling through the game.

>>717445267
You don't have to use everything if you don't want to, and you won't be using it all immediately. But for those that enjoy it it is extremely enjoyable and the entire point of the series, and if you were to spend more time learning the game and playing it you would eventually start to appreciate their existence much more as it adds far more longevity and recognize that not having them would only be a negative.

>>717447314
>you could mount a press x to get your turn to Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story and it'll be turn based still
It's a good thing DMC gives you the ability to do more than just press one button at a time. I see the point you're raising but I would still argue the genres are vastly different just for what they ask from the player in return to reach a win state. I have to sweat to get good at DMC, learning optimal combos, movesets etc; JRPG design I just have to think like two moves ahead while pressing a button every five seconds.

>>717446560
You're a fucking retard.

>>717443868
I never really get the body type nonsense. Trans people can just pick the gender that they identify with. But the thing is, they're trying to appease to an even smaller minority, the gender non-conforming types. Like, who the fuck fucking cares about those retards who can't even decide what role in society they want to fill.

>>717447314
masocore/souls -ike do feel like that at times. Even more so with the nu-ones that have the enemy do 10 different moves in one string and all you can do is to just stay away from it.

>>717447598
NTA but it's very useful in general when you use high ki moves, like the axe's high stance heavy attack, for example. But to use it eveyr single chance you get? No. Not at all

You can also, for the most part, use sacred water you can get an infinte amount at the shrine but only carry five I think. It massively boosts your ki regen. There's also barrier talisman which does the same so it's not 100% 'needed' to play for fun.

pick any two weapons. You will get at least the blacksmith in mission 2 to unlock them to buy but most likely will find them in random drops. In mission 2 you start getting shit like bombs to use and elemental amulets, use them asap when fighting enemies to get your first ninjutsu and magic point then use those to get shurikens/more amulets and repeat to get some magic/ninjutus but it's not needed to grind exactly - you just need to get the first point and can restock at shrine

>>717447024
>>717447267
There was a splitstaff icon out of bounds so it will be here in some form, so far it seems highly likely that almost all weapons will have Samurai or Ninja variants, but even for Ninja weapons they have a lot of moveset room between ground and air. Plus they've specifically said that they're going to fill out even more of the Ninja movelist, which they obviously were going to do but they made a point of mentioning it. At the very least most if not all skills will return and Ninja weapons can also be treated as new ones. There's just not enough information to know for sure about any cuts but it's clear there'll be a lot of cool new stuff which is worth looking forward to.

>>717448162
bodytype was done as a way to combat the trannies, anon
By removing the whole 'I'm playing as a female despite having a dick and pretending to be a girl online', they just got around catering to mental illness

>>717448428
All weapons are in the game plus some extras - it's why RotR had several weaposn like hatchest for enemies only

>>717447598
The only reasons you ever don't Ki Pulse is if you absolutely need to dodge instead or you'll be hit, or if you already cancelled with a Yokai Skill or Burst Counter. This becomes even more noteworthy with Flux.

there should be more cuter girls and onis

>>717448347
Play Jack's game. The offense and defense are closely intertwined to the point you're doing crazy damage in the middle of the enemy's combo only to animation cancel your attacks the split second the enemy's is about to land and parry/dodge/soul shield that one.

>>717447892
>It's a good thing DMC gives you the ability to do more than just press one button at a time
Your first hit is the most important one, it disables the enemy and lets you do any combo you learned beforehand, and it's not like a combo you did on the guy will suddenly stop working and you'll have to make a completely new one on the fly (you can also learn multiple combos in that case too)
>I see the point you're raising but I would still argue the genres are vastly different just for what they ask from the player in return to reach a win state
They are different, yes, but the nature of 1v1 fights is inherently turn based

>le diablo loot
am i the only one who did auto optimize until way of the nioh?

>>717448960
Same

>>717448689
Do you honestly need something OTHER than snaketits?

>>717447735
From demon onward what matters for gear is the grace. In demon the only one worth giving a fuck about is benzaiten for versatility imo.
It's hard to give you suggestions because it depends a lot on how you actually play.
My way of doing onmyo is facetanking with amrita absorption regen, purity on my weapon and a water familiar to have a constant confusion proc, so i wear tsukuyomi, susanoo (both from wise) and omnyo austerity+ (nioh)
Your way of onmyo might be ranged combat, and then you'd still need tsukuyomi but not susanoo and austerity, you'd use seimei (I think?)
Weapon type doesn't really matter, you can do everything with every weapon.
I want to tell you to just play and wear the gear with the highest level without caring for anything until you're going through the underworld, but I know some people feel underpowered doing that. But to me, the farming just isn't worth it. Gear won't last you long enough to bother with farming.

>>717448540
I mean, I believe so at this point, but I'm keeping my expectations tempered. The proof is all very much there though: we know similar weapons can exist in both with a label distinction (the titles with Samurai/Ninja), but we also know they can exist without that and instead be differently named variations or forms (Fists and Talons), putting aside of course that that can be temporary anyway. We've seen evidence of over half the old weapons being in and Ninja weapons probably take a little less effort overall to make even with how many options they still have, and they've had this game in the works for a very long time on top of a ton of resources from all the other games they've made in this time to carry over.

>>717445974
It's cool how Vergil as a boss fight really reinforces this concept.
If you play too defensively you're just never gonna kill him through his DT healing.

>>717449095
Yes, actually.
I need female armor that fits instead of male hand-me-downs, and more variety in armors in general. And weapon skins.

>>717448420
>You can also, for the most part, use sacred water you can get an infinte amount at the shrine but only carry five I think. It massively boosts your ki regen. There's also barrier talisman which does the same so it's not 100% 'needed' to play for fun.
The issue with this is that ki only regens when you're not doing shit, whereas pulsing is an immediate chunk. No amount of regen will keep you going forever.
If you build around ki pulsing you can basically keep going forever and barely even care about ki regen though, you just do yourshit, pulse/dodge, keep doing your shit, effectively forever.
You may say at that point you're styling rather than just defeating the enemies, but it's really a big help with your rythm.

Started playing Nioh2. Is the Odachi super broken? I've been going through the game so far with just high stance+Odachi and it worked surprisingly well. Although, currently I'm stuck against Saito Toshimitsu. I just cannot beat this guy.

>>717447735
Builds can be extremely simple and straightforward, and not even particularly necessary for a long time because of how many tools you have regardless across Ninjutsu, Onmyo, items and Soul Cores. Think of how you enjoy playing, put on sets and temper effects that help you do that more. Using all elements is a very simple, very huge power boost and even if you want to focus on specific ones, having access to them all is effortless and helps them further.

>>717449527
You know what, fair enough. Call me a homosexual but in a way I kinda enjoy that for most sets there is minimal variation for male and female armor, but that's because I think a woman in armor is in itself kinda sexy. That said, most ninja armors, the shrine maiden set and the kawakami armor do let them titties breathe a little.
> Weapon Skins.
You can change your weapon's appearance at the blacksmith, can't you?

>>717441160 (OP)
PC demo doko?

Just the fact it exists is enough for me
Demo was really fun though, not every change I liked but from the feedback it seems like they're addressing some of them

>>717441160 (OP)
Is the second demo out yet or announced yet?

>>717449967
Japs only know how to use console and they don't care about feedback from westoids, even if their game is gonna sale 70% of their units on PC.

monogamous relationship based on love, trust and care with Tate Eboshi

>>717448540
They can just pick a gender and use a different body type. It's the censoring of the word men/women or male/female that's worst. Type 1 or Type 2 just made no fucking sense.

>>717449561
For some moves like strong attack in high stance with axe or stuff like doing a long ass tiger's sprint or even just draining ki frmo a long combo, yes it's useful but in general, outside of bosses and maybe some harder enemies like specific yokai where you'll go from an long opening to having to dodge back a bit, the talisman/water is fine especially with a corrupted weapon and using soulcores

>>717449464
The only thing I can probably seem the doing is not bringing back the switchglaive. I'm assuming it'll have 3 DLC and each one will be a weapon either from the past two games or wo long possibly

>>717450114
That is the entire fucking point - it's to make it pointless for them to live out their deranged fantasies of being the opposite gender

>>717449561
Nioh as a series is balanced to the point that playing stylishly and defeating enemies as efficiently and effectively as possible are one and the same thing.
>>717449870
Everything does massive damage the first playthrough, Odachi can make that seem more clear at some points but as you're learning now, it's important to use the leeway to learn how to properly fight by managing Ki and stances so you're ready for what comes later and any potential roadblocks.
Odachi is not very strong in Ki damage but has great Break options (Ki damage on guard), so fundamentally you beat humans by using your range to punish and force them to guard, then break that guard for heavier combo damage while their Ki is down. High stance is strong but often too slow for every job, and while its roll is good for big single attacks the low stance dodge is the best general use one. Get used to swapping stance actively based on the situation.

>>717449954
I meant I want more, and more varied weapon skins too, not just armors.

What I really want is for them to drop their current engine, or at least make it more mod friendly and run better. The katana engine is fucking awful.

I'm playing Wo Long right now and Jesus Christ it's almost like a Nioh 2-lite.

>>717450260
>rely on yokai weapon
Too much of a chore for me, purity forever.
You're kind of right that you can use soul cores as ki regen pauses, but I don't think it's as efficient.
Well maybe it is if you're on AA agility and always watered, but I don't want to rely on a consumable that lasts 30s, it alwaus ends with me realizing that the buff is gone only when I get caught out of ki before I expected to be.

If they stopped it with the loot system designed for dopamine starved subhumans, sure im hyped

>>717450831
Sounds about like what everyone's experience playing that game is like.
It's unfortunately not very good overall either, though it's much better these days than it's launch version, which might be one of the worst action games I've ever played.

>>717450260
There's no reason to believe any weapon is gone entirely, least of all Switchglaive which was a big hit and is distinct in concept even within the roster.
Also the Ki stolen via Corruption goes into your Ki Pulse Bonus, unless you're using the Custom Active Skill that disables it (for only one) you need to actually Ki Pulse to benefit from it. Sacred Water and Ki Pulse are not mutually exclusive, same with Yokai Skills, and in fact both allow you to start recovering Ki faster so should always be used even with any Ki regen buffs. Barrier Talismans are a trap though due to denying you Purification buffs that are all far more valuable and even include a potential Ki regen buff themselves.

>>717450397
Team Ninja seems to be in love with the engine though, so I have little hope that they'll change it soon, especially on the mod side of things since japs are famously a bit iffy on modability. But yeah, extra armor sets and weapons would be cool, but I'm sure they'll add a few more sets on 3.

>>717450910
I'm thinking in terms of regular gameplay vs boss fights
Bosses, yes generally you will want to ki pulse regularly but stuff like normal enemies, not that specifically since for the msot part, you do just get to roll back once or twice and then regen that way (bonus if you're smart enough to get the skill that lets you use dodge as a ki pulse)
That's generally how I got used to it
I only really ki pulse whne I need to (ie not attacking and not dodging)

And I'm thinking of how I beat Saito first time in Nioh 2 on NG, corrupted axe, high attack in heavy stance, just applying the sacred water/kekkai as needed when he was out of ki
I cheesed the fuck out of Tachibana by doing something similar but no corruption obviously

>>717451202
What I mean is I think they might have some difficulty putting in all weapons into both ninja and samurai which is what we saw with 1Kat but this is 1Kat so who knows, TN might just be sucking off 1Kat

>>717445267
>Nioh 3 is adding an entire stance switch button that can be done in the middle of combos to basically double your moveset, and it seems to restrict certain weapons to this ninja form?
Here's the thing, all they need to do for this system to work is expand on it, not just have 2 stances, have 20 out of which you pick 2-3, each being somewhere aligned on samurai/ninja/onmyo triangle. Ninja moveset but have block, samurai moveset with dodge, cursed shinobi or magical knight, etc.
The more options you give people the easier it will be for them to find what will fit their own style.

>>717447404
I finished Dream of the Nioh and the 108 basic Underworld levels without using Ki Pulse even once so I think you can go fuck yourself kek

>>717441160 (OP)
Not really. It didn't really need anymore sequels. They're just milking the same old cow again. I'm tired of this nonsense.

>>717441160 (OP)
reminder that the nioh games aren't that hard and anyone who says it is is too lazy to engage with its systems

>>717451898
You must be the most retarded tranny to play Nioh "kek"

>>717451526
It's possible, as I've said before but we already know 1kat, 2kat and Fists/Talons have variants in both, and they already have all Samurai weapons made from past games which is a significant amount of the work needed. Ninja would be the bottleneck but they would have known that going in.
>>717451642
They already made Rise of the Ronin.

>>717452250
mad because bad.
I'm not engaging with your shit systems, deal with it nigger faggot. Dual swords go brrrrrrr!

>>717451898
I once talked with a nigger (literal) who managed to get all the way to strong without realizing he could use skills and change stances.
A whole ng just by using odachi mid attacks exclusively. I could never decide which it was more between impressive and retarded.
You remind me of him.

Looking forward to reverse grip ninja 1kat.

>>717441160 (OP)
aw yeah hope it’s on switch

>>717452715
yep, game is not hard enough to justify engaging with all the bells and trinkets "systems" that bloats it, especially if you dont use a weapon that ends every combo in a retarded stance.

>>717446327
its literally one of the games ever made.

>>717452627
>lois, look at my sick kehtana skills, lois ehhehhehhehhehh

>>717449114
I use onmyo to supplement my melee through buffs mainly. Usually my goal is to use my split staff element and cores to put confusion on an enemy. Then I when while the confusion debuff is active, I just become hyper aggressive and attack constantly.

>>717451898
The problem is that people don't get that playing aggressively =/= only playstyle

Even with fucking Tachibana in Nioh 1 or Saito in 2, you can actually play reasonably fine without ki pulse if you choose when to attack wisely
It's just not 'optimal' according to spergs

>>717452856
you know there might actually be a chance that it is since they got Wild Hearts to run on the snitch rather decently.

>>717442909
>filtered before the first enemy
You should consider applying as a game journalist, lots of layoffs lately so im sure they have a spot for you

>>717441160 (OP)
>another faceless MC with character creator
Into the trash it goes. The damage zoomers have caused to videogames is beyond measure.
Nioh was good because of William, rest is the usual team ninja rehashed gameplay

Hope the odachi feels as good to use as it did in ROTR

>>717452035
No shit when you bring endgame gear and skills to an earlygame boss

Do we know who's doing the ost this time?

>>717453157
People don't care about if you play optimally or not. You just need to be trying really really really fucking hard to disregard the massive benefits across the board and the increase in how much more fun and interesting the game becomes if you're willing to literally just press another button or two after you attack.
It's an extremely dumb thing for someone to get hung up on denying and trying to pretend you're cooler or better because you refuse to do it and give yourself a worse time is even dumber.

>>717453157
This.
Maximo Autismo over here swearing "youjust have to Ki Pulse if you wanna play like baby's first DMC bro!" when you can just play like a regular Souls and manage your stam/ki correctly.
Fights take like 1 minute longer but you dont look like fucking Rainman sweating over your controller. If I wanted to learn 72 hits combos I would be try-harding on a real game like a Fighter, not a glorified souls clone.

>>717454168
Quit samefagging brown tranny. You literally ignore the core mechanic of the game because you have mental problems.
Kill yourself.

>>717453940
If you're not using much of your ki, there's not actually that man benefits

Don't get me wrong, did I like spamming high stance heayv on axe against Saito while ki pulsing and recovering ki from ki pulse, corruption, barrier talisman and sacred water and making him my personal jap bitch? Yes. Yes I did
Is it possible to beat him wihthout all that and playing defensively, again, yes, it is

This isn't a fucking dance dance revolution game like souls slop. There's more than one way to play the game, anon

>>717454317
>samefagging
>nigger faggot having a melty over "muh Ki pulse"

>not ki-charging and instead waiting every time for ki to recharge manually and being constantly out of ki
>which probably pushes you to run around enemies every time like a clown or playing some bitch-made long range pussy spam (((build))) for max safety
This is an equivalent of sitting in a cuck chair and watching someone else in a room having sex instead of doing the fucking yourself

>>717454814
ki-pulsing*

Did they fix the random loot this time?

>>717453795
Hopefully same guy as Nioh 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MeHaP7pTtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJZ8luAFfdg

>>717454814
>porn addict /v/irgin immediately jumping to sex metaphor
it's more like you pump like a retarded sybian machine for 30 seconds non-stop while I'm cool and collected, feeling my rythm and doing my things.
In Nioh the results is the same: boss dead.
In real sex, I let you guess which one is the better way cuck-fantasy faggot kek

>>717449870
Odachi's great (even moreso in Nioh 1 if you get an early Taro Tachi off a revenant, then it's stupidly broken)
Saito is absurdly hard. I'm originally a sekiro fag and found his 1v1 side mission about on the same difficulty as isshin or owl father.
In the end, in my winning attempt, I ran over him very quickly with endless ki pulsed splitstaff combos, timely OTG final blows, well spaced yokai abilities, and perfect burst counters. No other attempt was close to that smooth. I ha to stay right in his face (not unlike seki tbqh)

>>717441160 (OP)
Didn't even realize they're making a 3rd one. I've only played the first game.

>>717454980
>fix
As much as I hate it, I don't think they perceive it as a flaw at all.

>>717455602
Not only is it the 3rd one, they've made 3 filler crappy nioh-likes between Nioh 2 and 3 which cratered their reputation.
I've been hungry for Nioh 3 for years, but I don't know if I trust current TN to not fuck it up royal.

>>717454702
Ki Pulse can cancel almost all recovery from attacks, and with Flux you can act instantly afterwards. The anon gave some simple advice that is extremely useful both for playing the game better and enjoying it more for how little it takes to follow it. Your response is to insist they can ignore it when they will obviously know they can while citing multiple other tools they need to unlock that aren't exclusionary and with how you're shuffling them around and had to be corrected it's very poor advice. If there's more than one way to play the game, Ki Pulsing is a part of many of them. The only one sperging out is you under the guise of concern trolling and an egocentric fixation.

watched someone else play it and noticed Double-Headed slice was just unlockable. Used to be a boss drop.
Please tell me boss skill drops are dead and gone

I really like the random loot to be honest.
Nothing is better than an involuntary gambling minigame.

>>717453795
>>717455304
Don't think they've said specifically who yet but the OST sounds like the same guy and so far sounds similarly fantastic. It's got some of the old tracks too which is nice.

>>717455850
SoP, Wo Long, and Ronin are all great though, especially SoP.

>>717456379
It's been reworked to potentially have quite a bit less RNG. Main missions can take place in a place called a Crucible, and in there special weapons can drop that come with specific Martial Arts. Once you max out their Familiarity you learn the MA for real and can use it with other weapons.

>>717456509
>SoP
Can't help but think that's where this ninja/samurai mode swap got its inspiration from

>>717441160 (OP)
I still haven't beat nioh 2

>>717442201
people found out from the demo that all weapons have versions for both samurai and ninja styles. Essentially, each weapon has 4 styles now.

Damage numbers? Off

>>717445267
>I don't really feel like dealing with ki pulses, swapping stances mid attack string, and then also swapping forms all in one combo.
then don't. I played Nioh 1 and 2 without getting any skills (except a few basic ones) and usually just using one stance per combo, no magic. think like demon's souls melee build, that's how I played it and I did fine.

>>717446560
>>717441294
next time try actually playing games instead of making up headcanons based on videos you watched

in your head you are visualizing a dream scenario of a player who is 100% familiar with all the nuances of boss attack patterns, hitboxes, timings etc.
In reality the challenge comes from you learning this shit in real time, looking for openings, being cautious of counter attacks, etc. You also likely don't have a 100% perfect defense against enemy attacks, meaning you are on a timer, your life will eventually run out if you are taking too long, you have to find openings and deal as much damage as possible as quickly as possible

Hope we get a longhouse like in ronin. Also that game's appearance system was the best, hope that's in too. No one likes clownsuiting.

I wish Ronin had an expansion to Ezo.

>>717456806
Probably, Nioh 3 looks like it's taking things from all their modern games.

>>717456509
Wo Long isn't great until the very end when you are teleporting around the map and AoE nuking things while staggering bosses with virtue status via King of the East.

Was there anything with the following in the demo as I didn't play it for very long unfortunately:
the grappling hook in combat, even pulling yourself to the enemy/pulling them to you (I'll take the kusarigama as a subsitute)
Yokai abilities
Ninjutsu feathers or the mines or the caltrops

>>717458036
Eh, Ronin overstayed its welcome, I feel. The game was too samey due to the open world formula and restrictive real world setting.

>>717441160 (OP)
WHAT ARE THE SPECS FOR THE DEMO
MY PC IS SHIT

>>717446327
It's fantastic, but it's a lot to learn
If you ever do end up playing, regularly return to hone your skills otherwise you're gonna rust and get too lazy to relearn everything just like me.

>>717459913
It's the katana engine; if you ran Nioh 1 and 2 at 60fps without issues you should be fine. Hell my old rig 6700xt and 5600x ran Nioh 2 at 3440x1440p 120fps native locked.

>>717459913
Demo was PS5 only, anon
You can pirate Rise of the Ronin to get an idea of how it might run

>>717460106
If you ran Nioh2 at 60fps, you'd run their recent titles at 20fps.
Wo long, SoP and Ronin all run like shit, especially at launch, and they never bothered to fix Ronin..

>>717459462
Kusarigama is still a weapon but now for Ninja style, and it has a pull yourself to the enemy move from in midair.
Yes, Yokai Skills are replaced/expanded upon in two ways via Guardian Spirit Skills and Summoning Seals. Each Guardian Spirit has at least two moves which are used exactly how you think of Yokai Skills, except they can now also act as a Burst Counter like Brute's slap. Soul Cores still exist but function much differently and among other things, can be set to give you a Summoning Seal item which lets you summon the Yokai for an attack, which can be compared to those Yokai Skills that summoned or the old Guardian Spirit Skills. Or like how Raiko calls them out. The feedback says they're also going to let you cancel any animation with them similar to Spirit Skills too.
Caltrops are in, haven't seen mines or feathers as they were yet and I would expect them to be in but there are new elemental homing orb projectiles in Ninjutsu.

>>717460117
Oh, thank you.
>>717460106
To my shame I bought a i5-7600k and it was an awful fucking purchase, but the game ran well regardless.

redpill me on Jack's game
It's the only one I've struggled to get into

The companions kinda seemed retarded, I disliked the whole 'enemy injured, press special button to do animation to kill or just hit it while it can't do anything and it dies', the enemies seemed way, way too fucking passive

in fairness, I did drop it after like the tutorial mission in the second mission at sometpoint with the dolves or dogs or whatever when I felt it was just too easy

>>717460923
Play solo, you'll get more fun of crowd control and dealing with larger groups that way. I personally loved the Soul Burst animations since there's a lot of them but to each their own I guess. It's sort of like NG obliteration techniques, just cool finishers really.

>>717461835
I'll try solo instead, thanks

>>717447861
>You don't have to use everything if you don't want to
its easy to say but some people like me feel like they aren't playing properly unless utilizing every mechanic in the game, I CAN tell myself to not use ninja and just stay samurai but there's gonna be a button that is completely useless to me all because im not following the game design and that seems wasteful

I just dont enjoy this samurai\ninja split, I think you should be forced to make a choice and commit to it instead of being able to do everything, a samurai transforming into a nimble ninja mid combat looks stupid as fuck too

I've only played nioh 1, it ran like shit and I had to use resolution scaling
is it over?

>>717452592
>They already made Rise of the Ronin
nta, but they whole fighting style system was fun as fuck. Not a big fan of the rock-paper-scissors strength/weakness schtick, but stances offering unique moves and different animations tickled my autism in just the right way. My biggest wish is to have that implemented in Nioh 3 at least in diet form so I don't have to see the same 3 hit combo over and over again. Shoutout to Gikei-ryu for being stylish as fuck.

>>717466914
You could always do everything in Nioh so ninja mode doesn't really change that. I think there will likely be a way to swap between two samurai modes or two ninja modes at some point in the game though. The button will never be completely useless even if you don't want to swap since it can still burst counter while keeping your mode the same.

>>717446327
imagine soulslike combat, but actually good

>>717466914
Then learn how to use them, but as I said no one can learn to use everything instantly. That's what makes the game fun over a much longer period of time. You also can't do everything at once even with the ability to switch, it just makes the commitment more fluid which allows for more interactive constant decision-making for those that want to use it, while also having enough for those that don't always want to, though the button will still be used for Burst Break, which has an option of doing so while staying in that style.
>>717467695
They've said that we'll be able to unlock equipping two weapons for both Samurai and Ninja, so not only will combinations and Flash Attack still be a thing, we'll be able to use FOUR weapons total. Though not quite on the same level, it'll be interesting to see if they also add two Guardian Spirits per Style as well.

>still have to finish 1 but keep getting distracted
I last beat the big skelly boss, how far along am I?

oh, uh, I'm a little behind. I've only the played the first one.

>>717468237
Pretty far along, maybe 3/4 of the way or more. 2/3 if you add the DLC.

>>717453484
>missing the point

>>717467907
>Then learn how to use them
nope im not interested in this zoomer adhd gameplay, I'll just skip the game

>>717467695
>so ninja mode doesn't really change that
yes it does, im turning into robe wearing faggot with a button, that's a big change

>>717470558
>UH NO THIS GAME IS LE EASY
>*uses overpowered gear and finished build on early mob*

ok broomer

>>717447404
Nothing is mandatory in Nioh. With enough knowledge of the game mechanics, you can cheese everything from the start.

>>717471121
How is it possible for someone to not think both ninja and samurai are cool? Just swap the burst counter to make it so it doesn't change to ninja mode if you dislike it that much.

It's been a while since I've played Nioh 2.

I could have sworn the Severing Spin hidden Sword skill had an additional command, but no matter what I press, the animation still looks the same. Am I getting the timing wrong?

>>717473763
Are you thinking of Sekiro's One Mind or Blue Moon or whatever the buff skill is?

>>717474106
The hidden skill you get from the lady with the drinking problem.

>>717473763
>I could have sworn the Severing Spin hidden Sword skill had an additional command
I'm pretty sure it never did, i think only the kusa's skills and sacred bird cry are like this.

>>717475016
Oh yeah, both spear hidden skills are multi input too.

There are generally two factions of people hating on Nioh 3. There are the "fags" who just want Nioh 2 again and are whining about Team Ninja trying new mechanics and changing things up, just like they did for SOP and Ronin and Wo Long. Then there are the "retards" who haven't actually played any of these games, and think they're all the same and Nioh 3 is basically just another Demon's Souls clone. I have yet to see anyone who actually isn't excited for Nioh 3 that doesn't fall into one of these groups.

>>717441160 (OP)
I won't be hyped until 3 years after release when it's 75% off with all DLC.
Pre-ordering is a trap and everyone keeps falling for it.

>>717475223
There are also the "gentlemen" that stoically endured every new Team Ninja game getting worse than the previous one, played the alpha and can already predict what's going to happen.

>>717475526
I played the alpha and predict that it's going to be good.

>>717455850
>>717456509
Ronin is aggressively mid
Wo Long is good now, but it took some work to get to that point, the release version was ass
SoP is a masterpiece, probably the greatest game ever made

>>717475526
weak bait

Is regular onmyo still in, or is magic exclusively locked to soul cores now (gay)?

Damn, I forgot just how fucking fun this game is. It's so in depth, from the move list, to the story, to the characters, to the mechanics. I can see why I thought I could live with this game on an island back then, before I burned myself out on it. You wouldn't get this kind of self creative, self expressive, self insert action RPG anywhere else. I pray Nioh 3 lives up to 2, or even surpasses it. I didn't try the demo, no. I'm hoping to surprise myself when it comes out, keeping blind.

>>717479341
>he uses magic

>>717457206
1v1 boss fight is the safest environment you can hope for to learn their attacks and patterns, you also have unlimited time to do so, even if you die and restart the boss is still the same
And I don't even know why you are saying shit like "um but you'll make mistakes and die", as if that's impossible within a turn based system

>>717441160 (OP)
Another flop of the year by team copy paste

>>717454168
>Maximo Autismo over here swearing "youjust have to Ki Pulse if you wanna play like baby's first DMC bro!" when you can just play like a regular Souls and manage your stam/ki correctly.
But who the fuck wants to play like Souls, are you retarded?

>>717441160 (OP)
>Another button and feature bloated game with loot slop and gay stamina management
No

>>717445860
>nothing about the type a and type b shit
I can't believe it...
>717484870
Plaster your walls with your brains, you stupid fucking nigger

>>717454168
nioh is actually fun unlike comboslopper may cry

Best guardians spirit?

>>717489012
Whale because I'm a Tea enjoyer

>>717441160 (OP)
I was replaying Nioh1 for the 1st time and damn, I forgot how devoid it was of all the tools you have in 2. Some bosses are just so ball-busting, they hyperarmor everything, you are better of just grinding to memorize their patterns and slowly whittle them down or figure out some kind i cheese to stun lock them. Maybe I'm just underleveled but fuck this, nioh 2 has way more options to help you actually melt enemies.

>>717441751
My wife

>>717490828
Nioh 1 has Spirit mode, and charms to both give you sprit on damage + regenerating spirit.
You're also fully immune to damage and super armor everything while under such. Once you unlock Hi-Nezumi, just set that and start abusing how quickly it recovers. Also the charms that lets you attack with them goes pretty far as well. Otherwise abuse Tonfa's ability to just destroy guard as a post-release addition.

>>717441160 (OP)

>>717471660
it looks fucking stupid that's what, im not playing power rangers im playing nioh

>>717441160 (OP)