Thread 717444136

>start JRPG
>defaults to the english dub

>>717444136 (OP)
>EEEEEEEEEEHH?

Most people dont like reading subtitles and see subtitles only as low effort.

>>717444341
low IQ people*

>>717444341
amerimutt moment

>Switch the language
>Dubtitles

>>717444453
>Pretend
But its great, and the voice actors are just amazing
Also most dub voices are all trannies or feminists, so I would rather not listen to their voices as much as possible

>>717444453
yea bro, what I really like instead is to hear some retarded fucking americans reading the lines of my japanese games

>717444453
>nooooo anime is le bad!
>he says, on an anime website

>>717444748
Somebody post the updated Pic that has every other flag on the planet. This one is no longer enough.

>>717444185
>OP utterly annihilated with one sound
FPBP

>>50% nigger country pretending to be white

>>717444994
Oh word? Hook me up, dude! I fucking hate chinks.

>>717444453
>I'd rather listen to the same dozen Americans underemoting because they're treating the job as an audition for a "real" role on a streaming show.

i heckin love staring at subtitles for 40 hours instead of the nice art/graphics

>>717444136 (OP)
post your N1 certificate

>>717444136 (OP)
as it fucking should be, I'd rather hear my tongue than high pitched on san sugoi :D
oh and ywnbj FAGGOT

You have no excuse not to understand the gist of vocalized moonrunes at this point.

>>717447495
I just find it nicer to listen to. I can’t listen to English dubs because a.) they use the same 10 people for every dub who at the end of the decade are replaced by another 10 people who get used in every dub and b.) I can’t listen to these people without imagining the 40+ year old white men and women in a recording booth in a repurposed LA crackhouse trying to sound like teenagers and children. With Japanese dubs, it’s easier to mentally distance the voices from real people and the games are made with Japanese as the primary language anyway so it just sounds more natural.

>>717444136 (OP)
>start JRPG
Something I have never done and never will do.

>>717447935
>they use the same 10 people for every dub who at the end of the decade are replaced by another 10 people who get used in every dub
oh no... you don't know?

>>717444671
>>717444748
>>717444994
uh oh mystery meat mutt meltie

>>717444136 (OP)
https://voca.ro/13LFyFhZOVDo
name 1 english dub that can compare

>>717447935
>did not post n1
>still reads english localized text
>listens to a language he does not understand
>still believes himself to be superior
you people make no sense

where is the image?

>>717448623
>>717447603
>

>>717444136 (OP)
>spending 3 years learning the language just to play games by ameriboos that use english words all the time

>>717444453
Accurate. You can't even tell if they're good actors unless you know the language anyway. To be fair most english VAs do suck as well.

turning americans into sissified weebs is obviously revenge for the nukes

>>717444136 (OP)
Don't olayb degenerate shit.
Voice acrors tendbtonbe shit.
Englishb is far better than that anniyance.

>>717444584
It's not great. You just dont understand what they're saying so it doesn't sound as bad/cringey as a result and it's the only reason you switch to jp.

>>717444136 (OP)
I hate american anime voice actors so much its unreal
Why do nips keep hiring them

>>717448941
>Accurate
Not really. I've only come across one VA that sounded noticeably worse after learning Japanese.

>>717449228

Because everyone besides weebtrannies would rather hear English and not disgusting nip shreeking.

>>717444136 (OP)
>playing JRPGs
lmao

>>717449237
why her in specific anon?

What're some JRPGs I should play that people don't typically suggest? Been craving more after finishing E33

>>717449706
Play witchspring R

>>717449706
Wild Arms 2

>>717444136 (OP)
I am tired of listening to japanese voices. The language is extremely primitive compared to even english. They have like 5 canned phrases. Its basically caveman tier.

Sorry but someone had to say it.

>>717444341
It's just weird how it's literally only American English dubs that get flak, since literally every other country in the world does dubs.
>Mexico, Spain, France, Philippines, Brazil, China, Russia, Portugal,etc all do their own dubs.
More or less confirms the idea that this board is mostly made up of self hating Americans.

>>717449996
Literal;y just uppity weebs. Even in japan people there complain about foreign games without dubs in their language.

>>717448179
>muttmuttmutt
We know you’re full brown. “Mutt” isn’t even an insult compared to your thirdie ass.

>>717449661
She just sounds annoying to me, especially her Holo performance in the 2024 remake. Most of the time quirky sentence-enders or other yakuwarigo don't bother me, but when she does it it just gets on my nerves. I liked her as Elda, though.

>>717449996
>More or less confirms the idea that this board is mostly made up of self hating Americans.
No, it’s definitely a ton of yuropoors. Like you said, I’ve seen posters defend shit like German dubs or Spanish dubs, which are objectively garbage (and usually censored) but thirdies defend them because the taco translation has some meme comedian or some meaningless shit like that.

>>717449237
Ami is type casted to play as the female Shadow the Hedgehog roles, so she's a cherrypicked example.
But her performance as Nina Wang was pure sex.

>>717444994
>>717444748
>>717444671
>>717445247

>>717447495
I don't want to hear troon VA's

>>717447935
evil nip guy
its frieza

>>717444136 (OP)
start srpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGEUP46jdB0
dub is better

>>717449237
I lothed kallen so much I switched to nip still hated her voice and stopped watching

if you don't like japanese dubs for japanese products you're an ironic weeb.
Nothing wrong with it. Just keep it in mind.

>>717452982
Yeah I have always been an ironic weeb.

>>717444136 (OP)
That was my experience with DQ11 before they had a JP option. I turned off voices so fast

>>717453189
I turned off the music as well. What the fuck was that shit??

>>717453189
Crickey!

>>717444136 (OP)
Your time is over, old man.

https://animecorner.me/crunchyroll-netflix-confirm-anime-sub-watchers-are-the-minority-on-their-platforms/

Also the Canadians are the best at dubbing.

>>717453491
oh no. if crunchy roll stops supplying subs, i dont know what i could do other than pirate...

>>717453491
popularity does not affect my preference

>>717453614
You can prefer to eat shit all you want. We'll still be laughing at you tho

>>717453661
whats ur favorite marvel movie

>>717453661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnP4LQhYTvQ

>>717453491
>normies prefer dubs
shocking!

>>717453491
Crunchyroll can't translate english voice lines TO ENGLISH. Its no wonder people don't watch their subs.
Doesn't explain why people watch their dubs.
Either way all smart anime watchers pirate.

americans have no idea how bad their dub is, insufferable even

>>717444453
The English voice actors usually are trannies you're very confused

>>717453997
we're taught from a young age that if its american its good

>>717445069
wtf is latinx?

>>717454137
latinXtreme. Like a latino but much more radical

>>717444136 (OP)
I've noticed that specifically transgender people get upset when you don't want to listen to dubs. Why is that?

>>717447495
I watch many foreign movies in their native languages why would I do anything different for the games

and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

>>717444136 (OP)
>female character is in her early 20s
>voiced by 50yo chain smoker hag
>every male is Matt Mercer, Nolan North, Troy Baker
>Well...THAT just happened huh?

>>717444136 (OP)
>>717444453
japanese audio purists how do you enjoy japanese girls always trying to sound like children and always screaming and squeaking obnoxiously and shit
like everyone universally agrees JAVs are only watchable on mute because japanese cunts that do porn are so retarded sounding, but half of them in anime and vidya sound exactly the same, how do you deal with it?

>>717447495
>oh cool! are you fluent in speaking japanese?
Yes. Now what?

>>717454368
Just stop playing games about high schoolers? There was none of that in Sekiro

Anything that's not the original language is equivalent to fanfiction. The original intent of the delivery will never be able to translate perfectly across languages. Certain types of characters simply do not work in other languages. If you care about art at all, you turn on subtitles and enjoy the vision the the creator paid attention to, rather than some localizer with no passion for the project.

>>717444136 (OP)
If it sounds likes shit I'll turn it off or switch to Japanese because modern dubbing is shit. For example sungwongchong and kirbopher sound terrible and they keep getting roles in games/anime/cartoons. Fuck that shit.

>If you didn't learn Japanese, how can you tell English is any worse? Checkmate
Meanwhile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDmvxguplBE

>>717454525
right i forgot /vpol/ faggots don't play games

>>717449996
>American English dubs
They're usually low quality compared to other languages.

>>717454662
>If you don't have arrested development and simulate dating teenagers you're from /pol/

>>717453491
Now remove Indian votes.

>>717444453
japan treats its voice actors like hollywood actors, compare that to no name retards forcing japanese inflections making the dub sound extremely retarded. This doesn't mean japanese voice acting is automatically better than american va, cartoons, games and animated movies all sound good. The problem that anime dub voice actors are bottom of the barrel, untalented, cheap faggots who sound like SHIT and can't voice act for SHIT

>>717447935
Meanwhile you clap when they reuse Sugita and A.Yuuki for the 1000th time.

>>717447495
i watch every media in the language of the country it's made in because that's the intended way of watching. I do it for french, spanish, english, german and japanese. If you can't read subtitles while watching you are a retard, simple as. It also helps to learn the language if you're studying it. I don't care for learning nipponese but i can somewhat understand it a bit now, like if i leave the room while the anime is playing i can understand it and piece it together through context without subs. Not saying i'm fluent

Show me 1 (ONE) singular case of bad japanese voice acting. Oh wait, neither of jeets can lol

>>717455283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BNhV2Gcq1g

>>717455334
Wow, the dub makes that shit show watchable.

>>717455283
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/oiyoiyo

>>717454536
/thread

>>717455283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-h9W9L2aw

>>717455283
https://youtu.be/SYrP49JsBE8

>>717454536
refer to >>717448623

>>717449996
https://youtu.be/ci8dIpNcyEY
If there wasn't an egnlish dub anime voice, it wouldn't be an issue.

Doesn't matter if you think the jap VA is good or not.
It's what the creators intended for the characters to sound like. That is all.
If I watch the Matrix I wouldn't dub it to Jap either. Because that's not what it's intended to sound like.
It's simple

>>717454137
Lanina for females. Latinx for males.

DUBS > SUBS because you can't understand the emotions unless you know japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bangt7d9vGA

>>717449237
>All those foreign gachaslop roles at the bottom
How they mighty have fallen.

>Um sweaty, the original Japanese is just better okay?
>Nevermind that all the women sound screechy and squeaky and the men sound like one guy doing every voice, it's just BETTER.
>Superior Nippon!!!!!!

>What? No I don't speak Japanese why do you ask? I just KNOW it's better!

>>717454352
when has nolan north done jrpgs

>>717454536
Audio tracks are very rarely a definite artistic decision. Souls games having a single English voice track, even in Japan, is an artistic decision. Nioh having William speak English while Mariah speaks Spanish, even tho everyone else speaks Japanese, is an artistic decision.

However let's not pretend as tho anime shit like Fate Stay Night deliberately intends for their main heroine, an English woman, to speak Japanese.

>>717456221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqaAgAyBFQY

you don't have to know finnish in order to hear that their digimon dub was horrible

>>717455283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igXfav_TKY

>>717453759
Black Panther cause whitey bad

>>717456221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccVTCGpBcdU

>>717444136 (OP)
>dub
>any voice acting in games at all
glad I only play good (old) games

Japanese is an ugly language

>>717455283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEA12WZBnE&list=PLCnWJ7Fclo4evc5KFvK76XClAKBrmAm6O
dub a 10 year old girl with a hag lol

>>717455203
Yuuki has a wide enough vocal range you are none the wiser to roles where she is not voicing a blond loli.
>>717449237
faggot
>717456178
Most intelligent dub consumer

>>717456646
chinknosect hands typed this post.

>>717453779
Now I understand why I've seen so many threads on /v/ complaining about Wuk Lamat.

Dubtards have it rough.

>>717444136 (OP)
>American dub
Instant disable, American anime/game dubs are almost universally intolerable with incredibly few exceptions.
>Bri'ish dub
I'll give it a chance
>strayan dub
Why doesn't this exist?

>>717457320
That's an even uglier language

>>717457329
they are both shit

>>717444136 (OP)
>>start JRPG
you already made a mistake

>>717444185
/thread

>>717444136 (OP)
Why do weebs think jap noises "sound right" when they have no fucking idea what they're even saying and spend the majority of their time reading the subtitles so you know they're not even listening to the dialogue thats being spoken

>>717456316
>Fate Stay Night deliberately intends for their main heroine, an English woman, to speak Japanese.
she speaks japanese because it was made by a japanese person for a japanese audience. and thats ignoring that language is an entirely different aspect from delivery but dubfags clearly dont understand quality or nuance

>>717457937
Yeah how can you tell the difference if you only speak English? It's a mystery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDmvxguplBE

>>717457937
Foreign languages sound a lot better when you don't have a fucking clue what is being said.

t. Anon that can understand Japanese and English, tried playing BOTW in both and didn't like how either sounded, so I switched it to Spanish (which I don't know shit about) and it made everything way better. Sounded like I was playing a Zelda-themed Spanish soap opera.

>>717457592
>strayan dub
>Why doesn't this exist?
because they ban everything.

>>717458279
>Foreign languages sound a lot better when you don't have a fucking clue what is being said.
A load of fucking bullshit. There are some aspects of good voice acting that get through a language barrier but actually understanding the words at the same time they're said(you don't get this with subtitles because translations will change sentence structures, and other things) is incredibly valuable.
>Anon that can understand Japanese and English
You're either lying about your comprehension or intentionally deceiving EOPs regarding dub quality so they don't demand better. You are the worst brand of human.

>>717457592
Xenoblade 1 dub is excellent because it isn't American

I'm not going to learn Japanese. English dubs are better almost always, anyway

>>717458279
english dubs need to lean into accents more if it takes place in one place they should base it off an accent
when helgast we're at there best it was cockney skin heads then lost that edge and it lost something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1DrFQ7YyNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdcohYt7rVc

>>717444136 (OP)
Japanese voice acting is no better.
In anime/video games, japanese voice actors divide the characters up into pre-defined archetypes.
-the aloof shounen
-the angry tsundere osananajimi
-the battled hardened veteran (who is 21 years old)
-the ricket 80 year old man
etc

Each of these archetypes has a specific voice type assigned to them. Which means no matter what game or anime you're watching, no matter what voice actor is doing the performance, every archetype across every game/anime sounds EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME.
Every
Single
Time.

>>717459012
and t. - i've spent 5+ years learning japanese so far.
I now mute all voice acting in JRPGs because it's bad no matter what language you choose.

>>717444136 (OP)
ywnbj

>>717454536
I don't entirely agree with this idea but it's funny when you see pic related but everyone is welsh.

>>717459012
I've noticed the same and which is why I can't stand them anymore either.

>>717449150
But I do understand what they say partially, at least 30%, which is enough to make it enjoyable.

>>717459012
Porn is unwatchable in japanese. I prefer it dubbed.

>>717449442
If you're not a weeb why are you playing an anime-styled JRPG game? get the fuck out of our fandom you fucking normalfags

>>717444341
its a jrpg
you're going to be reading a lot regardless

>>717459078
most video game stories are shit
ff7 is one of them
the og ofc no dubbing but you had a nigga T

>>717449442
Japanese is much more pleasant on the ears than English
t. ETL

>>717459012
Yep, their VA's spend years perfecting these different types of archetype voices, making them sound identical to each other, so they can perform any of them on cue as they work for different studios across their careers.

There's no room for creativity or talent in japanese voice acting industry. It's very very rigid. And once you start noticing it, you will never be able to not notice it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYkUsgPsecc

>>717444136 (OP)
there are some good subs like xenoblade,persona or final fanatsy, but by good god, there are some terrible ones like yakuza

>>717459012
>>717459078
>>717459352
I guess ignorance is bliss, If I ever do learn Japanese I hope this doesn't happen to me

>>717459454
I play every kinda game, I've never liked loz type games still buy them hoping for one I can finsh
brought patapon really enjoy it thats a JRPG

>>717459012
You've finally discovered that anime is trash. Old Japanese cinema was the real kino all along.

>>717444136 (OP)
Literally me. The microsecond a female dub actor speaks it is like slipping on a cheese grater

>>717459687
you post the guy voiced by a granny or the chad jew

>>717459691
>I like getting inside of fandoms and pretend I'm like them only to bash at their preferences and then ruin their entire hobby
GET THE FUCK OUT

>>717459816
>chad jew

>>717449996
American English dubs are terrible.

>>717459865
what are you on about why do I wanna talk to ppl about loz I just told you I've tried the games but dont like them
I am not you mate

>>717460023
not liking bender wakka
kys

>Japanese character is written to speak in a Kansai dialect
>There's no real direct translation for this, so the dub gives the character some kind of American accent
Love this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_0mRBR4-bw

>>717444528
This shit bothers me so much that I default to dub when I see it

>>717444136 (OP)
>>start JRPG
>>defaults to the english dub
only trans behave like this

>>717449996
>It's just weird how it's literally only American English dubs that get flak
Lots of dubs from many countries get flak, your victim mentality is showing.

>>717460023
Japanese Tidus is positively awful. Morita can only scream.

>>717460023
The Japanese voices are shite

>>717455221
>i watch every media in the language of the country it's made in because that's the intended way of watching
Bayonetta, Resident Evil and Xenoblade (1 and 3) were made in Japan and their dubs are better than subs.

>>717444136 (OP)
OP here, I'm trans btw UwU

>>717457940
Then, as I said, a game or show's voice track is very rarely a true artistic decision, but rather a product of circumstance.

>>717462627
>Bayonetta, Resident Evil
these arent dubs, they were voiced in english first
>Xenoblade (1 and 3)
you could only make a case for 1 and only because its carried hard by english shulk. 3 in english is trash

>>717459012
It also doesn't help that anime and video game scripts use very simple 1st grade level Japanese. So across multiple pieces of media you will hear the exact same phrases lol

>>717444341
nigger you barely even know english
go to other language's forums and see if they like dubs you faggot

>>717453491
This was obvious to me fucking 20 years ago

>>717444185
kek

>>717444136 (OP)
YAKUDASHI NEEEEE AMANO YI-SAN KOROWASHI WALLAH

>>717444136 (OP)
>start JRPG
>defaults to Brazilian portuguese
>"Hi! i am the protagonist of this game and i sound EXACTLY like goku!"

>>717465568
Good night, sweet prince

>>717444136 (OP)
>he doesn't use a random roll to experience all

>>717465726
How does that even go over there? Is it good because Goku voice= great or is it disrespectful because you're copying.

>JRPG has a somewhat decent English dub
>the lip animations when the characters speak are still synced to the Japanese voice track

>>717465726
>female voice actor voicing male

>>717465712
I don't think any of that is japanese. Except ねぇぇぇ and 天の

>>717444341
I never understood this criticism. It takes a split second to read a sub. I read subs faster than anyone could possibly speak. Just one look at a short sentence and that's it.

>>717459419
NOW CLUCK LIKE A CHICKEN

>>717465915
Wendel Bezerra has a great goku voice, but he use it for EVERYTHING.
And you still hear it as goku, every fucking time.
Except spongebob.

>>717447495
I'd post my Konami gym card membership. Getting one and filling out the form while talking to a slurring 60 year old manager would one shot most N1s. My opinion remains the same btw, english dubs suck complete ass while japanese dubs are infinitely superior. They convey personality and history in an incredible fashion. Recently watched Pluto and the light indignation of Gesicht constantly repeating his mission added a dimension to the character I'm 100% sure you could not add in any other way due to the nuances in the changes of sentence structure and cadence.

>>717465968
the voice of cartman on spanish is female,yes

>>717465915
For example, this sounds like goku in brazil

>>717444136 (OP)
I specifically switch to English Dubs in video games because most games don't bother subbing every line like cries uttered in battle and the like and it bothers me not knowing what's being said. That's literally the reason.
Unless the game is set in Japan.

>Rosa semen demon is bad
Funny how I don't see Kill la Kill Ryuko and Mai Shiranui either.

>>717447495
>there are still clowns out there that think attaining an N1 certificate actually means something
You're either retarded or underage. Anyone who's finished school would know that academic knowledge and strictly curated tests don't necessarily translate well into practical use.

>>717466736
N1 is a baseline. It's like Diamond 4 in League.
Might not mean much if you have it, but it speaks volumes if you can't into reading and writing at a CEFR B2 level.

>>717463304
This. It's crazy the amount of similarities between the scripts Pokemon and SMT games.

>>717463304
This is false I'm pretty sure. My main experience is H-games but and some normal games but I don't get what you're saying at all. If you're just talking about there being common phrases or common words every langauge has though. And many games have a CERO rating of 15+ so I don't see where you can get the 1st grade level idea from.

>>717453491
>look how many flies are on that turd!

>>717444136 (OP)
It all depends on when the game came out. PS2 era dubs were peak soul

>>717447495
The JLPT is primarily a kanji test and does not accurately measure your ability to verbally communicate. (Yes there is one listening section, but that is compared to like three reading based sections)
Presumably one playing with Japanese voices may still use English subtitles to enhance their understanding. You only need to have like N3~ listening capabilities to discern acting performances IMO

How dumb do you have to be to let elitist fools trick you into believing that reading subtitles, rather listening to dialogue in your native language, is preferable under any circumstance?

Best English dub in history coming through.

I never played a game where the Japan dub is better because Japanese voices all sound the same in every game. Tough stoic man voice, cheerful teenage girl voice, shrine maiden voice, sultry older ara area woman voice, old man voice, etc.

I'm pretty sure the main deciding factor is the ability to read at a glance. Every other reason is just pure copium. There's literally no point in explaining anything about the creator's intent or vision, or that most dubs are cheaply and quickly made, because there's a very obvious skill barrier that is embarrassing to talk about. So instead we're forced to pretend we prefer 50 y.o. chain smokers voicing teenagers.

>>717444476
Rent free moment

>>717445069
Note that's self-identification. The bulk of those "asians" are weebs on 4chan going "SUGOI DESU BUKKAKE YAOI!"

>>717444136 (OP)
>>start JRPG
>>defaults to the english dub

>>717471828
The first statement is flawed anyway. It's not that Jappu voice acting is superior, but that the dub process inherently leads to trash.
>someone calmly says a short statement leading to 30 lip flaps
>dub actor has to fit in 40 times the dialogue timed to those lip flaps

>>717468398
If you don't see it, then it can't be shikata ga nai'd

>>717471828
I understand it now.
But when I was a kid and I had a choice between ENG and JAP I'd always go for JAP despite not knowing either language (I wasn't obese), even little baby me could tell the difference in acting between two completely foreign languages. You ironic weebs are retarded.

>>717472132
>he thinks sound works on 4chin
holy newfag

>>717472341
Well, not on this board

>>717472341
You just exposed yourself, retard

>>717472341
Works here.
>doesn't know about urine

>>717472124
しょうが無い is such a meme. Not even that common. If it's getting to you I think that means your comprehension is too low and you're heavily selecting for a few words or phrases.

>>717471828
>but do you understand it
?
No, thats why i play with subtitles

I can't enjoy a game if the people don't sound like me!

>>717473281
>He thinks the subtitles are accurate

>>717473394
>he thinks the english dub is accurate

>>717473474
JP Dub, JP Sub tiltes. It the only choice

>>717473474
Sex with that cat.

>>717454682
>Only speaks English
>can tell that other language dubs have better quality
You talk shit out your butt

>>717473847
ベイスド