← Home ← Back to /v/

Thread 717457250

330 posts 106 images /v/
Anonymous No.717457250 >>717457312 >>717457731 >>717460264 >>717461853 >>717462167 >>717462972 >>717463991 >>717464543 >>717465916 >>717467135 >>717467640 >>717469765 >>717470461 >>717473257 >>717484176 >>717484208 >>717484884 >>717486474 >>717491594
Did LCDs kill rhythm games? Both in arcades and commercial releases?
Anonymous No.717457312 >>717476319
>>717457250 (OP)
>Did LCDs kill rhythm games?

I want to hear your thought process here
Anonymous No.717457345 >>717457550
Not really, its just more work to adjust for input lag same with most games
Anonymous No.717457550 >>717459897
>>717457345
It's not input lag that's the problem though that was insane on early LCDs it was high on CRTs too. The problem is motion clarity and refresh rate and the amount of smear especially on early LCDs was so bad the whole image was ghosted. At the time I didn't notice, but it tracks when I lost interest
Anonymous No.717457731
>>717457250 (OP)
They killed arcade games in general. The flashing lights were the entire point. You can't flash a lcd quickly enough without turning it into a gray light to create the same physical sensation it give you.
Anonymous No.717457771 >>717460375 >>717466338 >>717470510 >>717485659
Problem is LCD TVs have shitty response rates, well before the era of them all having a 'game' mode. Also who is this bun and why haven't I drawn her (or him?)?

Rhythm games died simply because custom peripherals cost too much to make to warrant the novelty of investing in that platform. It's why they exist primarily in arcades where that's the expected standard.
Anonymous No.717457996 >>717459897
latency became more important for rhythm games but arcade hardware isn't really latency focused. that went out of style when sega dropped out of custom hardware in favor of generic windows machines.
Anonymous No.717459897 >>717460047 >>717460081 >>717460237 >>717460782 >>717461671 >>717464251 >>717475145
>>717457996
Latency doesn't matter for rhythm games. You see all the notes in advance and never have to react quickly. Any display latency can be calibrated out by making the timing window later. The real problem is motion quality. >>717457550 is correct.
Anonymous No.717460047 >>717460237 >>717460469
>>717459897
latency does matter since you're running a windows pc now (riddled with usb polling latency) instead of custom os with custom switches for the triggers.
Anonymous No.717460081 >>717460469
>>717459897
Fucking Dumbass.
Anonymous No.717460237 >>717460469 >>717462264
>>717459897
>out by making the timing window later.
Boy I sure love delayed reactions to my inputs in a rhythm game!

>>717460047
I figure they'd have custom drivers for that shit, or are for some reason using a custom interrupt-based solution (PS/2).
Anonymous No.717460264
>>717457250 (OP)
No? Why would it have?
Anonymous No.717460375
>>717457771
LCD monitors have never had this issue, it was just the TVs that were marketed as TVs. Arcade rhythm games switched from CRTs to LCDs ages ago and never had lag problems.
Anonymous No.717460469 >>717460839 >>717461185 >>717461238
>>717460047
Jitter matters, because you can't calibrate that out, and low polling rates cause input jitter. Static latency does not matter.
>>717460081
Name a single rhythm game that requires fast reactions.
>>717460237
>delayed reactions to my inputs
If you ever see them you set the calibration wrong (or you have jitter you can't calibrate out).
Anonymous No.717460782 >>717460957
>>717459897
>Latency doesn't matter for rhythm games.
Anonymous No.717460839 >>717462264
>>717460469
>If you ever see them
You do actually see lag in the visual feedback, but that's secondary to the audio so it's not important. 100ms latency is perfectly acceptable for the visual feedback. All it's doing is telling if you're rushing or dragging. You don't time individual notes using the visual feedback.
Anonymous No.717460957 >>717461038 >>717461185
>>717460782
Name a game where it matters.
Anonymous No.717461038 >>717461314
>>717460957
all of them
Anonymous No.717461185 >>717461815
>>717460469
Calibration can't match a good low-lag display setup because it still isn't able to visually react to your inputs until the delay passes. You can set it up so it's expecting the input right when the note crosses the line, but if there's display lag it's still going to burst late and look like you're dragging when your timing is perfect.

>>717460957
LITERALLY all of them
What a retarded post
Anonymous No.717461238
>>717460469
>Name a single rhythm game that requires fast reactions.
arcade rhythm games usually operate visual and audio differently (it's why you can manually adjust both offsets), if there is visual latency than you will notice a desync between the audio and notes.
Anonymous No.717461314 >>717461474 >>717461815 >>717462423
>>717461038
I've cleared (easy) DDR tracks with my eyes closed. That's infinity milliseconds of lag and it didn't matter. Rhythm games are about playing to the audio. The only drawback of display latency is the delayed visual feedback. The note markers still line up perfectly with the audio if it's calibrated correctly. There's no desync.
Anonymous No.717461474 >>717461572
>>717461314
you do realize you are playing a hyper specific type of way that most rhythm game players do not. you are memorizing entire charts. youre a minority.
Anonymous No.717461572 >>717461719 >>717461815
>>717461474
But even if you don't memorize charts you see them on screen for plenty of time before you make the input. It's not like fighting games where you have to react quickly and display latency actually matters.
Anonymous No.717461671 >>717461820 >>717476593
>>717459897
>Latency doesn't matter for rhythm games
This is the stupidest yet most confident post I've seen in a long time. Games about timing aren't impacted by the timing being off?
Anonymous No.717461719 >>717461820
>>717461572
i feel like you haven't had enough experience with harder charts to even say this, the faster your scroll speed the harder it gets to react to individual notes and you need to start reading entire patterns instead, if there is a visual latency it's going to fuck your brain up entirely.
Anonymous No.717461794
you're a fucking retard op
Anonymous No.717461815
>>717461314
>I've cleared (easy) DDR tracks with my eyes closed. That's infinity milliseconds of lag and it didn't matter.
This is like saying having hands doesn't matter because I can clear easy doom levels with my feet.
Braindead retarded complete non-argument

>The note markers still line up perfectly with the audio if it's calibrated correctly. There's no desync.
See >>717461185, input lag totally fucks the visual feedback and that's 50% of the game.

>>717461572
It's not about reaction, it's about feedback. A game being "possible" with a bad setup that feels like shit does not mean having a proper setup does not matter
Anonymous No.717461820 >>717462353 >>717462727
>>717461671
The timing is not off. "Doesn't matter" is a slight exaggeration because the visual feedback does actually help, but it matters less than any other action genre.
>>717461719
Chart reading is not affected by latency once it's calibrated correctly. Literally the only thing affected is the visual feedback.
Anonymous No.717461853 >>717462019 >>717462067
>>717457250 (OP)
Model panels are indistinguishable in latency and motion clarity compared to CRTs.
Anonymous No.717462019 >>717462127 >>717462708
>>717461853
>indistinguishable in latency
Correct, but only with high refresh rate displays, and lots of rhythm games are locked to 60fps.
>motion clarity
Not even 480Hz is enough.
https://blurbusters.com/crt-simulation-in-a-gpu-shader-looks-better-than-bfi/
Anonymous No.717462067
>>717461853
You mean modern? Maybe OLEDs, LCDs don't light up like a crt or oled either. You can't ignore 20 years of history and point to only the last 5 years of +$1000 dollar monitors to compare to something everyone had in their living room in the 90s and paid a quarter for at the arcade.
Anonymous No.717462127 >>717462196 >>717462708
>>717462019
>and lots of rhythm games are locked to 60fps
there is literally like no rhythm game that is still updated in the modern era that is locked to 60fps
Anonymous No.717462167 >>717462296 >>717479771
>>717457250 (OP)
IIDX is alive and well, retard. And that's a keysounded game. Visual delay introduced by LCD displays is not the same as audio or input delay. And every rhythm game worth its salt has options to adust the visual sync.
Anonymous No.717462196 >>717462708
>>717462127
actually i think it's only pop'n, even iidx is 120hz
Anonymous No.717462264 >>717462387
>>717460237
>>717460839
Modern rhythm games let you adjust the graphical timing too.
Also 120hz monitors are becoming the norm.
Anonymous No.717462296 >>717462517
>>717462167
>alive and well
arcades died decades ago what are you smoking? That is a niche of a niche of a niche compared to the 90s and early 2000s
Anonymous No.717462353
>>717461820
Audio and visuals have inconsistent delays due to hardware changes and sometimes cabs being upgrades on older machines which is why modern games require you to fuck around and figure out your offset. You are factually and objectionably wrong and are just saying actual bullshit.
Anonymous No.717462387 >>717462620
>>717462264
Do they let you adjust panel ghosting?
Anonymous No.717462423 >>717462667
>>717461314
>Rhythm games are about playing to the audio.

As someone who regularly has played DDR for 15-20 years and have competed in tournaments, I can tell you do not play DDR. ALL of the top level players play DDR visually, not aurally. The sync in DDR is so notoriously bad that if you tried to play strictly by ear, you would never get a PFC on, say, Norepinephrine for example.
Anonymous No.717462517
>>717462296
Sorry to hear that you don't live near a Round 1, Anon. IIDX is still kicking and will soon release its next version. The arcade I go to is generally fairly well populated with other rhythm gamers.
Anonymous No.717462603
>itt: skill issues
Anonymous No.717462620
>>717462387
NTA but IIDX does not have panel ghosting (unless the arcade owners replaced the LCD with something retarded)
Anonymous No.717462654 >>717462701
sdvxbros I'm getting filtered by the 17 wall...
Anonymous No.717462667 >>717462982
>>717462423
I haven't played recently. You're almost certainly better than me. But I've cleared 10 footers back when that was still impressive and I relied mostly on the sound.
Anonymous No.717462701
>>717462654
practice your handtrips bro
Anonymous No.717462708
>>717462127
>>717462196
>>717462019
DDR is literally the only game that is still locked to 60FPS unless you're playing the PC version, or pirated data with a modded .dll so that it runs at 120. It's the main reason I won't play DDR in the arcade anymore.
Anonymous No.717462727 >>717463991
>>717461820
The visual feedback is extremely important. The timing bar represents "now." If a perfectly timed note doesn't explode right when it hits the line, the line no longer represents "now" and the audio and visual components are not synced and the whole game is fucked. Even if you're timing purely by audio, rhythm games work because a perfectly timed note LOOKS perfect onscreen too.
You're a fucking retard
Anonymous No.717462779
Please explain OP you sound like a dumbass
Anonymous No.717462972
>>717457250 (OP)
I LOVE POP'N MUSIK!!!
Anonymous No.717462982 >>717463196 >>717463478
>>717462667
I was there back then, Anon. And I know exactly what you mean. Trust me when I say the game has changed. Not necessarily the game itself, but how its played. Competitive DDR is all about locking into the timing window. And the unfortunate fact is that not every song is synced well. Sure, there's stuff like Sweet Sweet Love Magic that feels absolutely perfect. But for every SSLM that feels perfect to play, there's a Max.(Period) that starts VERY late, drifts into being on time towards the middle, then ends up being early by the time the 600BPM section hits.

DDR sync is, unfortunately, very very all over the place and basically REQUIRES visual timing if you want to score competitively. Just recently they FINALLY added an audio offset option so that players can change the sync. So, instead of fixing every broken song that's off by 10-20ms, they just told players "fuck it, do it yourself."

There's even a site where you can compare the sync of different songs: https://finaloffset.telp.gg/

Note that none of what I've said previously has anything to do with playing the game for fun. If that's your bag, stick with it and keep having fun.
Anonymous No.717463196
>>717462982
This anon is the real deal. And the game HAS changed, but by making the interface give huge, sloppy inputs, ala Dancerush and Dance A round.

t. Used to drive JSB to Arcade Infinity back in the day.
Anonymous No.717463284 >>717463392 >>717463403 >>717472048
How the FUCK do people do this shit?

t. recent 9dan achiever
Anonymous No.717463392 >>717463517
>>717463284
play moar
Anonymous No.717463403
>>717463284
do you think pinky crush was just slang for gay affectation?
Anonymous No.717463478 >>717463648 >>717464595
>>717462982
I never noticed, but in my defense, I followed the local arcade custom and played no bar. Touching the bar was called "bar raping" and was cause for mockery. Nobody was getting difficult PFCs.
Anonymous No.717463517
>>717463392
I do but it took me two years to clear my first 12 and it was fucking Due Tomorrow
Anonymous No.717463648 >>717464595
>>717463478
Oh my god I have not heard the term "bar raping" in fucking forever

Thank you, Anon. You brought me back to a happier time. I also strictly played no bar back then, but once In The Groove became a thing in the early 2000's that changed for me. I tried to push difficult stuff no bar, but I just couldn't hack it in the end. Nowadays DDR is so ridiculously hard that I have serious respect for anyone who plays top level no bar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqw3R6AcFXo
Anonymous No.717463847 >>717463913 >>717463935 >>717464485
Stop playing jap shit with charts made for autists and play more gookino rhythm games with fun charts
Anonymous No.717463913
>>717463847
the charts are just as autistic, you are are just bad and never actually get to the autistic ones
Anonymous No.717463935 >>717464072 >>717464157
>>717463847
I fucking hate korean music though
Anonymous No.717463991 >>717464132 >>717464164 >>717464242 >>717464670 >>717465129
>>717462727
You never accomplished shit in a rhythm game. You're not supposed to watch the note hit the bar, you're supposed to watch the notes as they first appear at the top of the screen. I guarantee the guy you're responding to is good and you're trash at rhythm games
>>717457250 (OP)
People being bad killed rhythm games
Anonymous No.717464072 >>717464141 >>717464167 >>717464286 >>717472567
>>717463935
Better than vocaloid/2hu/vtumor shit
Anonymous No.717464132 >>717464276 >>717464670
>>717463991
>You're not supposed to watch the note hit the bar, you're supposed to watch the notes as they first appear at the top of the screen.

NTA, but to be fair it kinda depends on the game. Players of 4 panel and 5 panel games (DDR, ITG, PUMP) tend to favor watching the receptors than further down (or up if they're using Reverse) the screen
Anonymous No.717464141
>>717464072
those are in korean games as well
Anonymous No.717464157
>>717463935
I like korean music but I hate djmax gameplay denuvo and charts and just everything about it really
Anonymous No.717464164 >>717464420 >>717464512
>>717463991
And when those notes appear is mistimed on most displays you actual retard. You are just arguing for the fuck of it clearly. Inputs are not taken immediately and that delay changes based on hardware.
Anonymous No.717464167
>>717464072
have u actually listened to any of these games regular songs or are just retarded
Anonymous No.717464242 >>717464512
>>717463991
>You're not supposed to watch the note hit the bar
you are suppose to notice judgement indicators though, and that is directly effected by visual latency.
Anonymous No.717464251
>>717459897
Literal retard.
Anonymous No.717464276 >>717464353
>>717464132
The rhythm games I've played are miku, maimai, arcaea and iidx and I never barwatched like a retard except when I was a 12 year old noob on guitar hero
Anonymous No.717464286 >>717464742
>>717464072
For every retarded Denpa song, there's some amazing bangers of all genres. You just haven't explored the games enoungh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j9km8TIUo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcfmIKKMu7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRa8i9sJvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9EqLDZP7h4
Anonymous No.717464347
https://youtu.be/-rWLmbzhd_w
Anonymous No.717464353
>>717464276
The difference between those games and DDR is those games are either synced very well, or they're keysounded so the sync inherently must be perfect.
Anonymous No.717464420 >>717464740 >>717465196 >>717465564
>>717464164
Not even visual players time to the appearance of the notes. That would be unplayably huge negative latency. The notes on screen are a memory aid to the printed charts you study while you're waiting your turn.
Anonymous No.717464475 >>717464593
no one is telling anyone to fucking bar watch but you are a genuine shitter if you think you aren't suppose to notice the very obvious LATE or EARLY graphics in a game like sdvx
Anonymous No.717464485
>>717463847
stopped playing when they started adding songs to the season pass
Anonymous No.717464512 >>717464551 >>717464569
>>717464164
How do you mistime the appearance of notes? If I have the sheet music open to all of our notes you're gonna sit there and say it's mistimed? Come on man
>>717464242
>and that is directly effected by visual latency.
Do you even know what scroll speed does? The visual indicator doesn't matter. That's why if you have a high scroll speed it looks like you get perfects even if you're way off
Anonymous No.717464543 >>717471227
>>717457250 (OP)
Thinking about getting into this series. Should I start with a specific one, or just start from the beginning?
Anonymous No.717464551 >>717464756
>>717464512
Having COOL appear with a hit effect half a second late is noticeable you actual retard
Anonymous No.717464569 >>717464756
>>717464512
why in the fuck would scroll speed have anything to do if youre hitting late or early? you do not adjust scroll speed if you are mistiming notes.
Anonymous No.717464593 >>717464664
>>717464475
You're not getting lates because of latency. You're getting them bc you're bad.
Anonymous No.717464595 >>717464672
>>717463478
PFCs are quite possible without the bar... with a well maintained machine.

>>717463648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLaMqWDo_5M&list=RDyLaMqWDo_5M

>PUMP IS GAY
>PUMP IS GAY
>PUMP IS GAY
>PUMP IS GAY
Anonymous No.717464617 >>717465776 >>717465860 >>717467501 >>717467634 >>717471939 >>717476715 >>717483318
I bet none of y'all even play any rhythm games.

Prove me wrong by posting a score that you're proud of.
Anonymous No.717464664
>>717464593
i mean i can just manually adjust my timing to match up with the latency like in a fighting game with 1-2 frames of delay. but i could also just not play a clearly broken machine.
Anonymous No.717464670 >>717464747
>>717464132
>>717463991
HIDDEN
SUDDEN
SHUFFLE
Anonymous No.717464672 >>717465113
>>717464595
>throwing shade on After The Game Of Love

Don't you DARE shit on that absolute fucking classic you goddamn double nigger
Anonymous No.717464723 >>717464747 >>717464941 >>717470748
>small niche community
>everyone hates each other
Why are rhythm gamers like this?
Anonymous No.717464740
>>717464420
>printed charts
Do zoomers even do this anymore? If not, you should. You can't fit a whole song on a phone screen.
Anonymous No.717464742 >>717464830
>>717464286
5 SECNDS INTO VIRUS FUNK, AND I'M SEENG BEAR ASS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU.
Anonymous No.717464747 >>717465113
>>717464670
Can you explain what you meant by this post because I seriously have no idea

>>717464723
We're all SEVERELY autistic and antisocial. Comes with the hobby.
Anonymous No.717464756 >>717464880
>>717464569
If you barwatch like a nigger increasing the scroll speed expands your visual window. But actually the window is the same regardless
>>717464551
>a hit effect half a second late
It looking late and it sounding late is two different problems. It looking late is a nothingburger scrubkiller and it sounding late is the chartmaker's fault
Anonymous No.717464830
>>717464742
Yeah? What's the problem?
Anonymous No.717464880
>>717464756
anon literally no one is talking about bar watching, you notice mistimed visual effects from the corner of your eyes in any rhythm game holy fuck. they are just within view for you to notice them thats the fucking point.
Anonymous No.717464882
Drum Mania is the only rhythm game I genuinely enjoy playing, but most of the time the pedal is unresponsive and the chair is way too high to step on the pedal so I end up only playing the drums without knowing how to pedal
Anonymous No.717464941 >>717478730
>>717464723
If you actually go to the arcades you will see that a sizeable plurality of rhythm gamers is biological women. Maybe 40-60%. There are unironic nontranny foids itt
Anonymous No.717465025 >>717465254 >>717465382
>*jumps onto the other side of the DDR pad while you're on a PFC run and flails around stomping on the pad and screaming like an idiot in front of his friends in your path*

Your response?
Anonymous No.717465113 >>717465382
>>717464747
the name for old beatmania as in pre 2dx, and DDR modifiers that change the visibility of arrows. Hiding the early stage, hiding the later stage, hiding when they cross the indicator.

>>717464672
Pump it up is homosexual. And Korean. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Anonymous No.717465129
>>717463991
You should be looking at and perceiving both. Peripheral vision exists. Everything I said still stands.

>I guarantee the guy you're responding to is good and you're trash at rhythm games
World's most obvious and pathetic samefag
Anonymous No.717465196
>>717464420
>The notes on screen are a memory aid to the printed charts you study while you're waiting your turn.
And here's where we learn you have no fucking clue what you're talking about
Anonymous No.717465254
>>717465025
THAT is a reason why I only play barrless double. That and I am too fat to fit on a single pad comfortably.
Anonymous No.717465382 >>717465445 >>717465453
>>717465113
And I forget the video like a doofus.

>>717465025
I'm used to that by now. And NOW it's Extra stage and flare mode and other LIFE 4 shit.
Anonymous No.717465445 >>717465576
>>717465382
Not to mention Galaxy Brave. You DO spend three credits every play like a good consoomer, right Anon?
Anonymous No.717465453 >>717465556
>>717465382
Like a DOUBLE doofus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjYAbqqG4wA
Anonymous No.717465556 >>717465843
>>717465453
Man, this would have impressed the absolute fuck out of me like 15-20 years ago.

Pretty sure I could one tap this with the same options today.
Anonymous No.717465564 >>717465845
>>717464420
>The notes on screen are a memory aid to the printed charts you study while you're waiting your turn.
charts are made up of patterns that the charter wants you to hit, they are not aids for anything.
Anonymous No.717465576 >>717465685
>>717465445
I haven't bothered to get Paselli working and I'd want to do that first. Although with Visa and MC acting the way they are, maybe I do want a goddam JCB card and bank account.
Anonymous No.717465685
>>717465576
Why do you want to set up Paseli? You don't need the basic course for all the usual in-game options anymore. Hell, you don't even need to use Paseli at all. Konami's website takes direct US card payments.
Anonymous No.717465776 >>717465928 >>717467384
>>717464617
Not a single person posted a score. This leads me to believe that I was correct and that none of you actually play rhythm games.
Anonymous No.717465843 >>717465892
>>717465556
The biggest mindfuck in my opinion back then was some lunatic managing to get a combo of Zero on songs. And no, I don't mean failing the song either.
Anonymous No.717465845
>>717465564
Back when I played there was a website that could generate chart diagrams for you to print (pre-smartphone era). Memorization makes any rhythm game easier and reading from paper was a common way to do this.
Anonymous No.717465860 >>717466684
>>717464617
I play rhythm games but I'm not good enough at them to feel proud about mu scores, sorry man. Some day, hopefully.
Anonymous No.717465892 >>717466064
>>717465843
That is legitimately more impressive than a PFC. Being able to Good Attack without failing or getting a great is legitimately harder than getting even an MFC.
Anonymous No.717465916
>>717457250 (OP)
Rhythm games are perfectly playable on computer monitors.
The biggest source of lag is converting an analog signal to digital or the other way around.
Anonymous No.717465928 >>717465983
>>717465776
I'm mostly on dancerush stardom. Why the fuck would I take a picture of scores on that?
Anonymous No.717465983
>>717465928
Post a webm/mp4 then.
Anonymous No.717466064 >>717466157
>>717465892
And even if you can, WHY would you do it? I mean SSR max 300 life 4 on the old CRT games was something for reflex speed.
Anonymous No.717466157
>>717466064
>And even if you can, WHY would you do it?

For the same reason people freestyle, or memorize charts to play them on stealth, or getting the PFC lamp on an extremely low level folder.

They find it fun.
Anonymous No.717466338 >>717466515 >>717474928
>>717457771
>Rhythm games died simply because custom peripherals cost too much to make to warrant the novelty of investing in that platform.
Peripheral autism is based but you can play 80% of rhythm games on a standard arcade stick. iidx maps perfectly to any 8 button arcade controller and you set the joystick to be the dj pad. You can also make a diy taiko controller for less than $20
Anonymous No.717466515 >>717467268
>>717466338
>iidx maps perfectly to any 8 button arcade controller and you set the joystick to be the dj pad.

That sounds like a fucking horrendous way to play IIDX what the fuck?
Anonymous No.717466580 >>717479429
Why are rhythm gamers like this?
Anonymous No.717466684
>>717465860
Same. I care more about playing fun charts than chasing high scores.
Anonymous No.717466945
been playing some MASH VP recently, fun shit
Anonymous No.717467135
>>717457250 (OP)
all i know is that the timing on the new gitadora cabs feels fucking awful
Anonymous No.717467137 >>717467449 >>717467606 >>717467994
I've been thinking about setting up a home DDR/DDR like setup to help myself stay /fit/ and because it sounds fun. What's the best pad I can get and what's the best game to play on a standard Windows PC? Stepmania? I'm basically completely new to this stuff.
Anonymous No.717467213 >>717468523 >>717469312
The second coming of rhythm games in the west
Anonymous No.717467268
>>717466515
You can literally play iidx on pic related and it's pretty much the same as oem. Ignore the top right key and flick the joystick instead of the dj pad. Cost effective and you can play any retro game or fighting game or shmup
Anonymous No.717467384 >>717467764
>>717465776
Here. Idk if they're good but I'm happy with my level 9 ftr clears playing with thumbs on a google pixel 3
Anonymous No.717467449 >>717468137
>>717467137
imo konasute is worth the sub because community charts are mostly dogshit
Anonymous No.717467501
>>717464617
Not a hard song, but the ending confused me for a very long time before I got the Perfect
Anonymous No.717467606
>>717467137
Best pad:

B2L: I own one and can attest that it's excellent. Pretty much near-identical quality to a real arcade pad, though it uses very slightly thinner metal than the real deal. It absolutely holds up under even the most intense sessions. It's literally just like having an arcade pad in your house.

https://ib2l.com/


Yuancon: This one came onto the market not long after B2L, good reviews from the few sources I know have one. I cannot personally attest to its quality, but it seems pretty much similar to the B2L pads.

https://yuancon.store/controller/yuanpads


Please note that these pads are arcade replicas and will require maintenance and tape modding to get it to feel good. It took me almost an entire week of testing and adding tape for it to feel 100% perfect for me.


Best pad that doesn't cost nearly two grand:

LTEK: This was the main option before B2L and Yuancon came around and saved us. The hard pad is pretty expensive for what you get, and the bar is utter trash and not worth it. I owned one for a time. It's decent. Does its job well. However if you're regularly playing high intensity stuff like DDR 16s and above, you WILL notice its shortcomings. I know nothing about the soft pads that they sell, but if they have foam inserts, and you're just looking to play casually, they might be worth looking into. However, if you are willing to spend the kinda money on a hard pad (this one costs like 500-600 after shipping) I recommend saving up instead for either a B2L or a Yuancon instead.

https://www.iamats.com/
Anonymous No.717467634
>>717464617
from my first time playing chunithm
Anonymous No.717467640
>>717457250 (OP)
Taiko no tataujin has never been more popular. There’s a localized arcade cabinet now and rhythm festival has done really well. All the homegrown drums shows there’s a demand for it too. I’m just starting really getting into rhythm games after a few months of muse dash. I’m honestly really excited to dive deeper.
Anonymous No.717467764
>>717467384
good job anon keep up those gains
Anonymous No.717467994
>>717467137
Stepmania is the easiest go-to DDR simulator. You COULD set up pirated DDR data if you wanted to, but that's a bit complicated and I'm not sure if you wanna go down that route.

If you go the Stepmania route, here's some good resources for simfiles. Zenius has officials as well as tons of customs you can search through. Just navigate the menus and see what you can find. Stepmania Online is a massive repository of simfile packs.

https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/simfiles.php
https://search.stepmaniaonline.net/

If you're looking to play pirated data, here's some links to help get you started.

https://nyaa.si/view/1509737
https://two-torial.xyz/games/bemani/ddr/a20plus/setup/
Anonymous No.717468137
>>717467449
Konasute is very much not worth it when data exists. Sure I miss out on the new stuff, but I'm not paying 15 bucks a month plus (roughly) a dollar per play so I can play the entire song list.
Anonymous No.717468523
>>717467213
They should have done that 10 years ago when rhythm games was very popular.
Anonymous No.717469312 >>717469607
>>717467213
I would not call the people who made Guitar Hero and DJ Hero, games that do not even have fucking timing judgements, "genre veterans"
Anonymous No.717469607 >>717470024 >>717470510
>>717469312
Come on let's not gatekeep them more money is good for the space. The young gen alpha kids have no rhythm game to play unless they are weebs
Anonymous No.717469765 >>717470208
>>717457250 (OP)
Guitar Hero killed rhythm games. It then suicided by releasing a billion spinoffs every second until its audience died crushed below piles of fake plastic instruments.
Anonymous No.717470024 >>717470513 >>717471792
>>717469607
Hate to break it to you, but gen alpha's idea of rhythm games is Friday Night Funkin.
Anonymous No.717470208 >>717471016
>>717469765
For all intents and purposes, guitar hero wasnt marketed or played as a rhythm game. The boomers in the west misconstrued it as a guitar sim and obsess over comparing it to real guitar.

Ideally it would have been better if a more abstract rhythm game like hatsune miku or popn music was the one that hit it big, so the "hurrdurr y u no play real instrument then" retardation around rhythm would never exist

But vocaloid or 9K was never going to make it mainstream. Beatmania and iidx released here but reviewers couldnt even clear the 1 difficulty tracks so it was dead on arrival (watch g4's review of them slandering it)
I never knew a westerner who played or heard of taiko either
Anonymous No.717470461
>>717457250 (OP)
I play IIDX to this day with 120hz displays and it's perfectly fine.
Though I did start out with those older 60hz cabinets and holy fuck I cannot imagine going back to those, I remember the ghosting being so bad (but it didn't really matter because I was still a total beginner and note density wasn't that big of an issue)
Anonymous No.717470510 >>717471035
>>717457771
>Also who is this bun and why haven't I drawn her (or him?)?
You didn’t know, but know you know, and the only one stopping you is (You)
Also the bun’s female
>>717469607
>Let in the gen alpha zoomies to bring in money
>They become the new main audience
>The genre shifts to cater to their shitty taste
Idgaf how much rhythm games could use cash or how niche the genre will remain as is, it’s a fate worse than death
Anonymous No.717470513 >>717470616
>>717470024
friday night funkin just a bad 4k game
Anonymous No.717470616
>>717470513
Correct
Anonymous No.717470748
>>717464723
The more niche a community is the more potential there is for its members to be autistic, hateful, and spiteful towards one another.
Anonymous No.717471016 >>717481001
>>717470208
DDR and that one knockoff Korean DDR who's name escapes me did both manage to make the mainstream for a while in the west, pre-Guitar Hero days. But they went away with the general downsizing of arcades after 2008.
Anonymous No.717471035 >>717471484
>>717470510
The genre literally cant shift. The biggest games have remained unchanged for decades and will continue on unphased. The only thing that will change is western flavor of the month shit that gets derived from it, like how dj hero/rock band/ rocksmith were derived from guitar hero. Considering there are no western rhythm games right now, anything is better than nothing
Anonymous No.717471227
>>717464543
Start with whatever the latest version is. There's not much reason to go back to older games unless there's a specific song you want to play that isn't in the current one.
Anonymous No.717471484 >>717471792
>>717471035
>Considering there are no western rhythm games right now

FNF is right there, dude
Anonymous No.717471792 >>717471921
>>717471484
>>717470024
It's a fotm meme game everyone played for a day and forgot years ago
Anonymous No.717471921
>>717471792
And yet, every other day I go to the arcade to play DDR, I hear some kid go "Whoa! It's like Friday Night Funkin' but for your feet!"

I am not joking.
Anonymous No.717471939
>>717464617
I still can't AAA rank and I have been playing for 4 years.
Anonymous No.717472048 >>717472117
>>717463284
wtf am I even looking at?
Anonymous No.717472117
>>717472048
This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p52GifpU1Q4
Anonymous No.717472567
>>717464072
>Better than vocaloid/2hu/vtumor shit
This is only a "serious" problem in Sega's rhythm game lineup. And sound voltex
Anonymous No.717473142 >>717473582 >>717473750
>entire thread made by some popn fag to bait CRT vs LCD discussion is just about rhythm games
lol
Anonymous No.717473257
>>717457250 (OP)
did they make a new pop'n cab? i don't remember seeing a touch screen before
Anonymous No.717473582 >>717474110
>>717473142
I'm happy with this outcome. Rhythm game threads are a niche of a niche and never get any popularity when threads are posted. 158 posts is a nice change of pace.
Anonymous No.717473750
>>717473142
Probably because most people have accepted LCDs at this point. It's not like 10 years ago where there was still a lot of pushback.
These days CRTs just aren't worth it, like sure it'll be better quality in some respects. marginally better colors and motion blurring, smoother input.
but it just isn't worth them being unwieldy as fuck, as well as shooting you in the eyes with ionised particles making it a cancer causing risk
Anonymous No.717474110
>>717473582
The entire discourse around gaming is evolving and people are starting to wake up and realize that rhythm games are the king of all games

>Gameplay is the most important part of games
>So the type of game that is most purely focused on gameplay is the best
>Rhythm games are literally only gameplay with some BGM and nothing else
>Hence if you don't like rhythm games you don't like games
Anonymous No.717474738 >>717474815 >>717476051 >>717476921
If rhythm games are so good how come there's no rhythm games general?
Anonymous No.717474815
>>717474738
There is
Anonymous No.717474928 >>717475141
>>717466338
>diy taiko controller for less than $20
do you have a link for that? I only found some costing > $80
Anonymous No.717475141 >>717476056
>>717474928
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/609824?n=1
Anonymous No.717475145
>>717459897
I am so sorry you had all these retards who don't play games bash your post.

OP said latency isn't a problem because it can be CALIBRATED

For instance, I play Taiko No Tatsujin and in the settings you can actually delay the speed note come out to compensate for tv lag.
Anonymous No.717475340
for me, it's that Y2K bemani aesthetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an2FuODGHN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqwaIT_C6CY
Anonymous No.717475686 >>717475769 >>717475923
Why do rhythm game soundtracks all seem the same for the past decade?
Anonymous No.717475769
>>717475686
They all circlejerk and use each other as DLC. I guess if one game got the license it's easy for that game to license out the license to other games
Anonymous No.717475923
>>717475686
My personal theory is that older rhythm games were tapping into that club, dance, popular music aesthetic. Rhythm games were a novel gimmick at the time that normal boring people were super interested in and devs were trying to appeal to them.
These days rhythm games are a lot more niche so it starts catering more to niche music tastes (read: more otaku) that rhythm game nerds would like.
Which all kind of feed off each other as everyone has to support each other
Anonymous No.717476051
>>717474738
There is but it's on /jp/ so only people who know about it go there so it's a complete ghost town

play bms
Anonymous No.717476056
>>717475141
thank you very much!
Anonymous No.717476093 >>717476194 >>717476307 >>717476536
I like Taiko but I am very bad.
https://files.catbox.moe/8anw1f.mp4
Does anyone else here like Taiko?
Anonymous No.717476194 >>717476481
>>717476093
I like the concept of taiko, but there are no taiko cabs near me and I don't wanna spend money on a controller when I'm not sure if I'll actually commit to the game.

>just play it on keyboard/regular controller

No.
Anonymous No.717476307 >>717476481
>>717476093
I like taiko and was going to do the diy drum. But then one day I got high af and had the idea to try iidx mapped to my arcade stick. And to my surprise the only difference is the shape of the buttons and the game plays nice. So no taiko for now
But i love the music and charts and the simulator is comfy
Anonymous No.717476319 >>717477263
>>717457312
he's referring to the fact that lcds have a distinct delay between information and display
Anonymous No.717476481 >>717476612 >>717476768
I hope someone here plays Taiko because I need pointers.

>>717476194
Keyboard/controller are perfectly fine to use as supplemental practice at home if you have an arcade nearby. I wouldn't recommend the game with those by themselves though.
https://files.catbox.moe/k7mc35.mp4
>>717476307
>love the music
Out of all the rhythm games it probably has the best original music.
https://files.catbox.moe/399sri.mp4
Anonymous No.717476536 >>717476745
>>717476093
people keep stealing the taiko drum sticks from my arcade...
Anonymous No.717476593
>>717461671
Not if the latency is consistent because a consistent offset can be calibrated so the display matches the timing exactly.

All the sperging retards are acting like if you don't see "PERFECT" the absolute picosecond you touch down you can't play have likely never played a rythm game in their life.
Anonymous No.717476612
>>717476481
>Keyboard/controller are perfectly fine to use as supplemental practice at home

As a DDR main, I wholeheartedly agree with this. Keyboard practice on Stepmania is absolutely essential to getting good scores in the arcade. As long as you play index, the muscle memory absolutely transfer over. Especially when learning super twisty charts.
Anonymous No.717476715 >>717476793
>>717464617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv5nj2qkaDw
Anonymous No.717476745
>>717476536
That's hilarious.
Most people I know bring their own $2 sticks.
https://files.catbox.moe/23hg51.mp4
Consider doing the same if you ever want to play.
Anonymous No.717476768 >>717476985
>>717476481
>Keyboard/controller are perfectly fine to use as supplemental practice at home if you have an arcade nearby.
I disagree. Going from controller to arcade on miku made me feel like a fraud. Keyboard on taiko turns the game into a generic 4k instead of a fun experience. Whats the point if the game isnt fun
Anonymous No.717476793 >>717477106
>>717476715
God fucking damn it I wish we would get Chunithm online in Round 1. It's fucking bullshit that we have to deal with the HEAVILY gimped offline version.
Anonymous No.717476882 >>717479531 >>717479632 >>717480174 >>717487595 >>717489116
I miss Wacca
Anonymous No.717476921
>>717474738
There's 2 just for bandori.
Anonymous No.717476985 >>717477170
>>717476768
>Whats the point if the game isnt fun
It's the kind of sacrifice you have to make if you're not conveniently near a machine that you can visit every day.
It's a "better than nothing" type of situation.
Still, it doesn't change the fact that it's good practice for the real thing. You wouldn't call a drummer practicing at home on one of those rubber drum pads a fraud.
https://files.catbox.moe/iaz9vu.mp4
Anonymous No.717477106 >>717477262 >>717487595
>>717476793
You're best off just making the $500ish investment of getting a Tasoller Plus and pirating the arcade data yourself. If you're interested I can inv you to where I get my data and a private network
Anonymous No.717477170 >>717477398
>>717476985
If you're a poorfag the best rhythm game is arcaea on mobile. You're better off playing something you have access to that's close to the intended hardware. All rhythm games transfer over to some extent so just have fun lol
Anonymous No.717477262 >>717477454 >>717477541 >>717477625
>>717477106
I've considered it, but I already have a $250 SDVX controller, a $500 IIDX controller, and a $2000 replica DDR pad. I probably shouldn't be buying anymore rhythm game controllers. If I'm gonna buy another controller, it'll probably be for Taiko since those are on the cheaper side.
Anonymous No.717477263 >>717477308
>>717476319
....so delay everything else to match up with the screen delay?
Anonymous No.717477308
>>717477263
read the thread
Anonymous No.717477356 >>717477423 >>717477728 >>717477985
whatever contribution it has to that is nothing compared to the fact that rhythm games require some unique expensive peripheral, consumers have less money to spend, and arcades (the main consumer base of rhythm games and machines) are dying
Anonymous No.717477398
>>717477170
And sometimes than extent isn't enough.
Anonymous No.717477423 >>717477468 >>717477678
>>717477356
If arcades are dying than how come Round 1 is still expanding across the US? And why have Konami opened up orders for their rhythm games to other arcade vendors when historically they only have had contracts with Round 1?
Anonymous No.717477454 >>717477774
>>717477262
That's fair. Unfortunately I'm too brainlet for SDVX and IIDX tech and gravitated towards Chunithm super heavy as my preferred rhythm game. If I somehow ever had the cash sitting around, I would buy myself a Dancerush cab in a heartbeat.
Sick pad btw
Anonymous No.717477468 >>717477558
>>717477423
name one other arcade chain
round1 and d&b basically share a monopoly
Anonymous No.717477541
>>717477262
The funny thing about buying rhythm game controllers is there are no official ones so you're basically buying some other guy's diy when you can learn to do it yourself
Anonymous No.717477558
>>717477468
These guys were the first ones to be approached with the offer apparently. And there's the possibility of Silk Hat and other Japanese arcade vendors expanding into the US.
Anonymous No.717477625 >>717477732 >>717477870 >>717477935
>>717477262
Er, I'd like to recant my statement about Taiko controllers being on the cheaper side. I was looking at the Hori controller, which clearly isn't the high end of Taiko controllers.

Yuancon's Taiko controller is over $400 dollars. Guess I'll DIY if I ever wanna get into Taiko.
Anonymous No.717477678 >>717477834 >>717477930 >>717479698
>>717477423
>how come Round 1 is still expanding across the US?
It's because of these damned things.
2 hours of some drunk groups of friends trying to win an oversized plushie makes more money than something like DDR does in an entire year
Anonymous No.717477728
>>717477356
>the fact that rhythm games require some unique expensive peripheral, consumers have less money to spend, and arcades (the main consumer base of rhythm games and machines) are dying
The peripherals are a filter but if you have an arcade stick you can play voltex and iidx already and if not you can make a taiko tatacon for $20.

Arcades are growing in the US. My local arcade has maimai, wacca, miku, taiko, chunithm, and a broken sound voltex and its not a chain
Anonymous No.717477732
>>717477625
Can you make me one too?
Anonymous No.717477774
>>717477454
>Sick pad btw

Thanks. It's my fucking baby. I spent a year or two just putting away cash for it. I've had it for almost a year now and it's taken quite the hefty beating. And it still plays like a goddamn dream as long as I keep up with the maintenance.

Pic related is from before I modded the internals.
Anonymous No.717477834 >>717479343
>>717477678
Unfortunately, I'm also kind of addicted to these things. I have an unhealthy amount of plushies over the years of giving these things a few tries every arcade trip.

Listen, they had Kuromi, okay? I fucking NEEDED to get her. You understand, right?
Anonymous No.717477870 >>717477913
>>717477625
I actually got myself one of these earlier this year. I'd say it's solid for the money but turns out I still like playing Chunithm more as well as enjoy it's song selection more than Taiko's so I haven't used mine much.
Anonymous No.717477913
>>717477870
That's a much more reasonable price, thanks for the heads up.
Anonymous No.717477930 >>717478084
>>717477678
Unless they pivot exclusively to these I'm fine with arcades doing what they need to do to stay open.
Anonymous No.717477935 >>717477980
>>717477625
Look at tokaku review the controllers she does a good job comparing the tatacons
Hori is the best if you're not super tryhard and don't want diy
Anonymous No.717477980
>>717477935
>tokaku

Oh shit, yeah I actually know this channel.

Her voice is so fucking cute I can't stand it
Anonymous No.717477985
>>717477356
There are so many games that were designed with keyboards or gamepads in mind. Not to mention the bajillion of mobile rhythm games. That's not really a good excuse anymore.
Anonymous No.717478084
>>717477930
My arcade is literally called Gatcha and it is segregated into two halves. The crane games on one side, and then the front desk as a divider, and then the hardcore rhythm games on the other side. It's basically like 1950s america except each side thinks the other side are the niggers
Anonymous No.717478730 >>717478930 >>717479105 >>717479226
>>717464941
when I played ddr/itg at the arcade it was all guys
Anonymous No.717478930 >>717479031
>>717478730
I never saw a guy play past beginner on the miku cab, it's all zoomer girls. Chunithm is like 30% women and maimai is like 40% women at my arcade
Anonymous No.717479031
>>717478930
ah cool. this was like a bowling alley or something that had a hacked itg machine loaded up with hard custom songs, and no other rhythm games. just autistic guys playing it
Anonymous No.717479105 >>717479302
>>717478730
I've gone to a good number of different arcades, as well as traveled for a couple of tournaments. I can definitely confirm that there are a sizeable of actual, real women that play rhythm games of all types. I've even seen girls playing IIDX if you can believe it.

Granted, there's also a sizable portion of people who are CLAIMING to be women, but y'know, that kinda shit is just fucking everywhere these days
Anonymous No.717479226
>>717478730
DDR is a high testosterone rhythm game.
If you went over to the music diver or groove coaster or dance around section, chances are you'd see a different story.
Anonymous No.717479302 >>717479447
>>717479105
And the girls are good. It's the only genre of game I've seen where girls can outperform guys. Girls in the fgc were 1 in 100 so they were all bpd attention whores who sucked at the game ime
Anonymous No.717479343
>>717477834
>Listen, they had Kuromi, okay? I fucking NEEDED to get her. You understand, right?
You can buy her for like $15 online.
Anonymous No.717479429
>>717466580
hot
Anonymous No.717479447 >>717479551 >>717480046
>>717479302
I can guarantee the girls aren't that good.
Anonymous No.717479531
>>717476882
Oh I play this at my arcade nearby. I can do level 9+ songs so far, it's pretty fun
Anonymous No.717479551 >>717479812
>>717479447
NTA, but overall? No. They're on the lower end. But there are top ranking girls that place high in US tournaments.
Anonymous No.717479632 >>717480404 >>717480494
>>717476882
It's not fair, bros. It never got a fair shake because of fucking COVID.

Then again Chrono Circle died in even less time so who knows
Anonymous No.717479698
>>717477678
>that guy in the group that whips out his phone every time his retard friends pull up to these and are dying to get one specific plushie
>looks up the same plushie on some site for sale for like 20 bucks convincing the retards not to play it because they're just going to waste their money
>that guy is me
Anonymous No.717479771 >>717479830
>>717462167
IIDX has had its fair share of dumb names, but Pinky Crush might top the list.
Anonymous No.717479812
>>717479551
Niche genre with a lot of variety. There's hardly any competition period.
Anonymous No.717479830 >>717479864 >>717480112
>>717479771
Hold my beer
Anonymous No.717479864
>>717479830
Nice thighs.
Anonymous No.717479974
Should I buy a TDC17 to replace my hori taiko?
Anonymous No.717480046 >>717480132
>>717479447
I cant really gauge their skill because they play differently from me. I play for extreme clears and they play for hard mode FC. At maimai the top players are two autistic men though
Anonymous No.717480112
>>717479830
It looks like a fucking soda can advertisement
Anonymous No.717480132 >>717480329
>>717480046
>they play for hard mode FC
Yeah they're not that good.
No offense to them but Extreme players can get those without even trying.
Anonymous No.717480150 >>717480245
My Round 1 doesn't have maimai...
Anonymous No.717480174 >>717482359
>>717476882
Touch screens were a mistake. I shouldn't have to come equipped with gloves or risk losing my fingerprints.
Anonymous No.717480245 >>717480302 >>717480380
>>717480150
My Round1 got rid of their 6 washing machines a few years ago
Good riddance IMO, maimai SUCKS
Anonymous No.717480302 >>717480380
>>717480245
Maimai and Jubeat are shit.
So is that Nostalgia piano game.
Anonymous No.717480329 >>717480394
>>717480132
They actually get them tho or they only miss one note
FC on hard is easier said than done ymmv. It's not fun for me to play like that feels too grindey
Anonymous No.717480380
>>717480245
>>717480302
Jubeat is dogshit but maimai is good fotm. Ongeki was way better though and I wish my arcade had it
Anonymous No.717480394
>>717480329
I don't chase FCs either but Hard mode ones are so easy they just kind of happen.
>ymmv
?
Anonymous No.717480404 >>717481796
>>717479632
>End of 2019
>discover a newly built Round 1 nearby
>go and discover a rhythm gamer's paradise
>get heavily hooked on WACCA
>suddenly some fake and gay virus closes everything down for a year and a half
>can't get WACCA fix
>literally have reoccurring dreams where I'll find an arcade and play some dream version of WACCA

What a weird time
Anonymous No.717480463 >>717480531 >>717480605 >>717480621 >>717480970 >>717483597
round one is replacing a sears here soon
only problem: it's near the hood
Anonymous No.717480494
>>717479632
Chrono Circle died because it's simply not a fun game
Anonymous No.717480497 >>717486583 >>717486945
Do you have a favorite Taiko song?
https://files.catbox.moe/75ppxx.mp4
Anonymous No.717480531 >>717480676 >>717480849
>>717480463
I'm telling you from experiencing arcades in not-so-nice areas.

Don't go there. ESPECIALLY if you're good at rhythm games.
Anonymous No.717480605 >>717480980
>>717480463
Sears still exists?? What the fuck
Anonymous No.717480621 >>717480803
>>717480463
>Round1 near the hood
I've never had a good experience with a black person at Round1
They throw basketballs everywhere
They'll beg to use your credits
They'll ask questions to distract you while they size you up and see if they can steal your bag
Anonymous No.717480676 >>717480732 >>717480803
>>717480531
desu im kinda tempted cuz the only other arcade that even has rhythm games is dave n busters (only a ddr cab) and a place called arcade monsters which costs 27 bucks to enter but theres as whole section of rhythm games and all free play
Anonymous No.717480732 >>717480860
>>717480676
In that case, I have a pro tip for you
Go first thing in the morning when they open up, on weekdays. Typically 10AM.
Avoid peak hours, avoid nignog wake hours, go while they're asleep, leave by 1PM or so.
Anonymous No.717480803 >>717480897 >>717480913 >>717481421
>>717480676
I'm kind of joking, but also kind of serious. This anon pretty much sums it up >>717480621 though he fails to mention how they'll also shove you off of the DDR pad while you're locked the fuck in on a PB run and then proceed to flail around like an idiot in an attempt to make their retard friends laugh.

I'm so glad black people stopped going to my local Round 1. Now it's just a shitload of Jews, which are far less annoying to deal with and generally don't bother me.
Anonymous No.717480842 >>717483654 >>717483768
I hope you arcade niggers get infected by a tranny virus or something
Anonymous No.717480849 >>717480913
>>717480531
>ESPECIALLY if you're good at rhythm games.
what's that mean? if you're good at rhythm games you're a nerd and will get picked on?
Anonymous No.717480860
>>717480732
This anon, once again, with excellent wisdom.
Anonymous No.717480897 >>717480976 >>717481043 >>717481421
>>717480803
true one time i hurt some little black kid by mistake cuz i was going hard on ddr and she walked across the 2nd pad to my side
Anonymous No.717480913
>>717480849
I play high level DDR, and what I described in this post here >>717480803 is not a hypothetical scenario. If I were playing some low level beginner shit, they probably wouldn't have even batted an eye.
Anonymous No.717480970 >>717481039 >>717481505
>>717480463
Lmao sounds like mine
>located in a dying/dead mall far past its prime
>in a ghetto where you can regularly hear gunshots
>we also had a sears there
Once knew a guy who worked for maintenance for round 1 and would travel across to different locations. Said mine was the worst one in the us. As cool as that place sound i’m never going there
Anonymous No.717480975
The only thing that sucks about arcade Taiko is you can't change the drum sounds.
https://files.catbox.moe/yxxfvs.mp4
But I'm probably the only one in the world who actually uses them.
Anonymous No.717480976 >>717481042 >>717481421
>>717480897
This used to fucking happen ALL THE GODDAMNED FUCKING TIME.

My Round 1 FINALLY put up partitions on the sides of the pad. It doesn't always work, but it cut down on this happening immensely.
Anonymous No.717480980
>>717480605
There's like half a dozen stores left and their online business. Pretty sure Kenmore appliances and Craftsman tools are keeping the whole thing afloat.
Anonymous No.717481001 >>717481150
>>717471016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtPLc5kuXo
PUMP IS GAY
PUMP IS GAY
PUMP IS GAY
PUMP IS GAY
Anonymous No.717481039
>>717480970
i used to go to this mall alot when i was a kid but i went recently and yeah its so much more dead now
Anonymous No.717481042 >>717481421 >>717481426
>>717480976
Sorry, not partitions as in walls. Whatever those rope things people use to block things off, like when forming a queue. My retard brain can't think of the right word.
Anonymous No.717481043 >>717481421
>>717480897
If someone steps on my DDR pad while I'm playing I'm just gonna stomp them to death to the beat of the rhythm
Anonymous No.717481150
>>717481001
PUMP really is gay, though

>timing windows wider than your mom's gaping asshole
>combo based scoring that can cause someone with absolute dogshit timing to win against a guy who got a single miss and nothing else
>terrible chart cohesion (hey guys I heard you like M runs in your M run)
>absolute dogshit UI
>kpop is fucking terrible
Anonymous No.717481225 >>717481392 >>717481616
Any anons playing StepManiaX over DDR these days?
I prefer the song selection there, it reminds me of the old school DDR playlist with less weeb shit and more dance song bangers.
Even has shit modern DDR is lacking, like Captain Jack and Cartoon Heroes
Anonymous No.717481392
>>717481225
oh yeah, I kinda remember following that when it was new. looked interesting. never got to play it though
Anonymous No.717481421 >>717481490
>>717481042
R1's contract is for retractable belt barriers and crowd control stancions.

>>717481043
JS16. Stomping to my beat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIw-BdYL7as&list=RDXIw-BdYL7

>>717480976
>>717480897
>>717480803
In the old SHGL days, you had enough other players to spot problems for you and to launch them into the water hazards if needed.
Anonymous No.717481426 >>717481490
>>717481042
They're called stanchions. Don't feel bad about not knowing the word, I only figured out that's what they're called when I started playing DRS 3 years ago
Anonymous No.717481490
>>717481421
>>717481426
>stanchion

This is, quite possibly, the stupidest sounding fucking word I've ever heard in my life.
Anonymous No.717481505
>>717480970
Market Street Philly?
Anonymous No.717481616
>>717481225
The song cuts are too fucking short. They absolutely RUINED all the ITG crossovers.

Look how they fucking MASSACRED my boy.

Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iejAccUvSWA

SMX cut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhzi80Jr0EM
Anonymous No.717481796 >>717482829
>>717480404
I remember the round1 near me finally opening up sometime in 2021 and I saw lines for Wacca. Not big ones or anything but you had 6 or 7 people waiting which is crazy for a rhythm game these days.
Anonymous No.717482359
>>717480174
>risk losing my fingerprints
Honestly, I can only see benefits to this.
Anonymous No.717482829
>>717481796
I guess fuckers REALLY wanted to feel the experience of playing a video game while sticking your head in a front loading washer.
Anonymous No.717483318 >>717483468
>>717464617
I'm a fucking baby who only really enjoys Groove Coaster Wai Wai Party and Groove Coaster Future Performers (or Performaers as its called by its ROM file), so I think I'd get boo'd off stage if I posted a GC score (I also just don't screenshot results nor am I any good at either of the games)
Anonymous No.717483468 >>717483859
>>717483318
If you're afraid of getting booed, you are so weak that I wonder if the thread will be too much for you.

Be a man. Bet a dollar. And try groove coaster arcade. Did they shut down the online features? I vagely remember being able to get shit for the home version for playing it in arcades.
Anonymous No.717483597 >>717483676 >>717483803 >>717486931
>>717480463
Round 1 always insists on opening their US locations in shitty low income slums, I don't really understand it
Anonymous No.717483654
>>717480842
Do you want to talk about it?
Anonymous No.717483676
>>717483597
Cheap(er) rents, that's the only explanation.
Anonymous No.717483768 >>717484227
>>717480842
From what I've seen, some already have
The curse of being a rhythm gamer is that trannies are also big rhythm gamers often
I usually see em on Sound Voltex, so now I forever associate Sound Voltex as a tranny game
Anonymous No.717483803
>>717483597
They're huge buildouts and exceptionaly rare as mall anchors that are actually expanding. But the need long term committments at low prices.

Also the japanese really don't understand exactly how destructive the...youths can be.
Anonymous No.717483859 >>717485243
>>717483468
I hate to break it to you, I'm a eurofag, specifically a pollack, so I never even bothered looking for a GC cab in my area, because there is no fucking chance in hell there is one.
I just remembered seeing a Beatmania cab (don't ask me which generation and whatnot, it's been decades and I never looked into the games) at a cinema's arcade that had its turntable fucked by someone putting their used fucking chewing gum there. Every time I remember it I get really angry.
Anonymous No.717484176 >>717484237
>>717457250 (OP)
Rhythm games ruined my life
Anonymous No.717484208
>>717457250 (OP)
If you are deaf then yeah
Anonymous No.717484227 >>717484274 >>717484340 >>717485381
>>717483768
why sound voltex specifically?
Anonymous No.717484237
>>717484176
Sorry to heqr that you're a tranny, bro. Or that you got groomed as a kid. Could be either one.
Anonymous No.717484274
>>717484227
I think it's the anime coomer aesthetic of Sound Voltex that lures them in
Anonymous No.717484340 >>717484742 >>717486765
>>717484227
Sound Voltex is a tranny magnet due to the abundance of denpa, other weebshit, lolis, and feet. Not to mention a light splattering of furshit here and there.
Anonymous No.717484389 >>717484430 >>717484440 >>717485435 >>717492223
IIDX is one of the greatest rhythm games ever made
Anonymous No.717484430
>>717484389
This is true
I can only play up to Level 5
But this is true
Anonymous No.717484440 >>717484530
>>717484389
I miss the physical EQ sliders. Not to mention the LED ticker. Lightning Model is cool and all, but it's lacking soul.
Anonymous No.717484530 >>717484634
>>717484440
What even happened? one day they just took out all the old cabinets. Which is a shame cause I love the old dirtier looking aesthetic
Were they just not able to keep up with hardware/software requirements or something?
Anonymous No.717484552
I hate all weebshit unless its Camellia

https://youtu.be/_G4dBNcB0OA?si=3Zy6u55qGPHR9A2E
Anonymous No.717484634
>>717484530
They switched from 60hz to 120 and the old hardware just wasn't enough anymore. Plus they wanted to add the touchscreen for QOL purposes. Again, it's nice, and I could never go back to 60hz, but it's still lacking that rugged aesthetic and feel that I love about the old cabs so much.
Anonymous No.717484742 >>717484821
>>717484340
Minus the furries, that's basically 4chan's tastes
Are you saying this website is full of...?
Anonymous No.717484821
>>717484742
>minus the furries
Anonymous No.717484884 >>717484995 >>717485443 >>717486017 >>717486097 >>717486196
>>717457250 (OP)
do anons even know pop'n music anymore? did they even know at all
Anonymous No.717484995
>>717484884
I played Pop'n Music a few times at a local arcade, it was alright
I'd play it at Round1 if they had em there
Anonymous No.717485243 >>717486196
>>717483859
Oh shit. That's some hard mode. I'm going to check the database. And holy shit. There's a sketchy as hell looking place called the Warsaw and Krakow Arcade museum that claims to have a Groove Coaster 4th max.,

They also have some absolutely blatant bootlegs but actual fucking arcade cabinets. A taiko no tatusujin 14, and goddam Dancerush Stardom of all things, so you can get your slavic hardbase dancing in.

https://www.warsawarcademuseum.com/
https://krakowarcademuseum.com/

I'd double check if possible to make sure what they have.
Anonymous No.717485381
>>717484227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Apf35HE4o

I don't know. There are more obvious trannies on sound voltek than the other games. It's not what the cis girls pick. I suspect the 2dx players skew older and the physicality of DDR or Dancerush is triggering.

Other wild guess is that they find the combination of blue and pink volume faders comforting?
Anonymous No.717485435
>>717484389
2dx will NEVER be as good at DJ games as cracking DJ was.
Anonymous No.717485443
>>717484884
Pop’n lives rent-free in my head, man. Nothing hits quite like slamming those massive colored buttons while a guy in a dog mask screams nonsense over eurobeat. Most people skipped it because the control scheme looks like someone glued DDR to a spaceship cockpit. Shame too, it had some of the most unique character designs and music in all of BEMANI. Only real ones remember Nyami and Mimi.
Anonymous No.717485445
Sex with Mimi
Anonymous No.717485659
>>717457771
The bun is named Mimi
The cat is Nyami
Both girls
They're the main mascots of Pop'n Music
Anonymous No.717486017
>>717484884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ6L5309Eok
Anonymous No.717486097
>>717484884
I've never played a Pop'n game but I am schizo for their character designs
Anonymous No.717486196 >>717486642
>>717485243
Huh, color me surprised.
Bootleg machines don't really surprise me, I remember seeing some bootlegs with multiple games in one cab as a kid without realizing they were bootlegs.
I'd just go and check them out if I lived in either of those cities, but seeing as I don't and their categorization of the games is fucked up beyond recognition as seen on picrel, I'll pass unless I somehow end up being nearby for a day.
To elaborate on picrel, fuchsia (or whatever that color is) is rhythm games, blue is "arcade" and green is pinball.
Nevertheless, thanks for looking into it, as I legitimately would never have found out as I had no expectations.

>>717484884
I know of it, I've even seen a cab or two as a kid, but never played them
Anonymous No.717486312 >>717486695
Sound Voltex is not a tranny game, o-ok?
Anonymous No.717486474
>>717457250 (OP)
>go to an arcade last month
>they have pop'n
>play it
>snowfield express isn't available if you're a guest or something
fucking horseshit
Anonymous No.717486583
>>717480497
anyone :(
Anonymous No.717486642
>>717486196
I was amazed that they had ANYTHING. I thought you'd have to go to vacation to japan. I wonder how the fuck they got it. They had the mafia steal it? From the looks of it, they're bootlegging so goddam hard that they have an entire bootleg eamuse system back there. But that is legit hardware. They're replacing the cabinet software with updated versions.

Groove coaster arcade's UI is weird as fuck as it's two stubby gigantic joysticks with one huge button in the middle of each one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=583tjRAC_5I

it's your money so I'm not gonna tell you how to spend it, but if you miss the chance to actually play some of this rare shit like dancerush fucking Stardom, you deserve to get kazatsky kicked in the ass. There's like two dozen in all of fucking europe, and only 80 machines or so in all of america.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzwqbRFiZAA
Anonymous No.717486695
>>717486312
Get help for your tranny obsession
Anonymous No.717486765
>>717484340
>Not to mention a light splattering of furshit here and there.
wtf I LOVE SDVX now?!
Anonymous No.717486787
Did it kill fighting games? No it didnt so why would it kill rythem games?
Anonymous No.717486931
>>717483597
Cheap rent, that's the main reason.
I'm at least lucky that the two R1s in my city are both located in nice areas, they could have built one in the shitty ghetto mall where half the anchors are vacant but chose not to.
Anonymous No.717486945
>>717480497
From the old 70's cartoon. Original singer. One of the first anime songs in all of Taiko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVA7KoYgXtk

Bonus track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZbogVmqREc
Anonymous No.717487595 >>717491986
>>717476882
Big fan of this game but it makes my shoulders hurt and I fucked up my finger by hitting it too hard, couldn't play Wacca or Chunithm for months afterward and when I tried playing again I'd have about an hour or two before the pain comes back.
>>717477106
The Tasoller+ is finally coming out? I've been wanting to do a home setup for years and I finally have the funny money to do it, though really I wish I had the money for a cab.
Anonymous No.717489116 >>717489241
>>717476882
local arcade has 4 of those and i can play it all day while the real autists hog the maimai machines it's great
Anonymous No.717489241
>>717489116
Lucky you, my R1 only ever had 1 WACCA and 6 MAIMAI
There would be lines for WACCA while no one played MAIMAI
And no one there ever got to try the multiplayer, sad
Anonymous No.717491594
>>717457250 (OP)
Anonymous No.717491986
>>717487595
Tasoller+ has been out for some time now
https://www.gamo2.com/en/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=407
Anonymous No.717492223
>>717484389
this is so much cooler than the lightning cabs
Anonymous No.717492929 >>717496001 >>717497847
>Groove Coaster Future Performers came out
>laughably anemic 31 tracks to start with, and alarmingly there’s more vtumor shit than Touhou
>another 20 or so (presumably GC original) tracks locked behind a story mode I struggle to give a shit about
>controls revamp is ok, the game can now ask for specific buttons, and there’s now the possibility of other hits during holds, but the former is honestly a big issue for my muscle memory since I played Wai Wai Party hitting most regular notes with the shoulder buttons and switching it up is going to be a bitch and a half
>adlibs gone which I’m not that disappointed by, but I did like the unique hit sounds they had that spiced up the songs. On a related note FP’s hit sounds can be a bit distracting.
>not impressed by the game engine update, the visuals don’t seem that much more impressive than before, and the load times get annoying on Switch 1 (especially with the forced ”field set” animation at the start every time)
How are you feeling, groove/v/ros? I don’t think it’d a complete waste of my money… but it is still a little shit I’m afraid.
Anonymous No.717493978
Pretty much all rhythm games use a custom control format and a specialized cabinet for said format. Would there possibly be demand for a novel rhythm game that uses a traditional lever + three or four buttons? One that could be played on any generic cabinet?
Anonymous No.717496001 >>717497482
>>717492929
What's the progression like in the new game? I never really got into WWP and one of the reasons was the convoluted missions/unlockables system.
Anonymous No.717496503 >>717497371
>new rhythm games cucked by exclusivity in arcades
>bickering between games on what takes more skill or not between communities
Come join the true kings of the arcade, PinballCHADS are on the golden age of a lifetime right now, dont miss out
Anonymous No.717497371
>>717496503
i miss the pinball arcade. i like pinball FX for its original tables but it's not as good for simulations of real ones. also the reboot unreal engine pinball FX kinda runs and looks like shit. the older games ran far better on the same hardware.
Anonymous No.717497482
>>717496001
Far as I can tell everything unlockable is in the story mode, which I didn’t even start yet.
Anonymous No.717497847
>>717492929
>adlibs gone
Nope, I draw the line here.
Anonymous No.717497905
im addicted to buying rhythm game controllers, i think i will get a chuunithm controller next cause i get surprised at how fun i actually have with that game every time i goto round 1