Hope yall boughted your GPUs and CPUs already

>>717460603 (OP)
I did. My 5800X3D + 4070 Ti Super gonna keep me afloat for at least 3 years.

of course not. i'm waiting for the price cuts after the mutticans stop being able to afford them lmao

>>717460603 (OP)
Once manufacturers set up shop to make semiconductors here in the states, things will be cheaper than they've ever been so I don't mind being patient.

>>717460603 (OP)
Yep, I bought an extra graphics card as soon as this tariff bullshit started. Sitting in my closet until I need it.

9950x3d and 64gb RAM, by the time GPUs with sufficient VRAM are available all this other shit will have blown over.

>>717460865
>Once manufacturers set up shop to make semiconductors here in the states
intel fab progress is literally going backwards lolololol

>>717460865
You retards never learn

>>717460865
1. They won't.
2. They won't.

Classic trump
He says 100%, and then people will settle with 30%.
With the amount of MBAs the world is pumping out, I can't believe this is actually working.

>>717460865
Taiwan has said they'll never ever let the cutting edge nodes go. Never.

>>717460865

>>717460865
I've long since run out of fell for it again reward stickers you morons are beyond help.

>>717460912
>>717460986
>>717461045
>>717461065
trololololo

>>717460603 (OP)
>posting some random X post making a baseless claim
Remember that when you make a thread, another one dies. You should question whether it is worth it before making a thread.

>>717461146

>>717460603 (OP)
this retard doesnt go a single day without fucking with tariff numbers, I dont take anything he does seriously.

KEK troons stay seething

>>717460603 (OP)
bro trump is fuckin' retarded. the market is gonna crash.

>>717460603 (OP)
DO IT
DO IT
DO IT
Crash this fucking economy
Let everyone starve.

>>717460865
You just know there are burgerlards who actually believe that.

>>717460865
LMAO

this is huge news right? like this sounds like nvidia destroyer news. nvidia cannot make chips in usa because it would destroy their entire operation. evga already had to pull out because margins were so thin and they were OUTSIDE OF THE USA. so nvidia will be subject to 100% price increase.

>>717460865
cute mogojyan

>>717460603 (OP)
nope
and i am not going to "stimulate the economy" by buying overpriced goods "before they become more overpriced"

too bad!

Gamers voted for this.

>>717460865
>Once manufacturers set up shop to make semiconductors here in the states
HAHAAHAAH if only you knew how terribly badly that is going right now
Intel has been "setting up fabs" in the states for the last decade and they still haven't even released a single proper node and they're falling apart riht now

>>717460865
>things will be cheaper than they've ever been

>>717460603 (OP)
I'll wait til there's one worth buying.

>>717461993
labs are hard OK?

>>717460865
this
lmao @ all the retards going
>nooo the greatest economic superpower on earth can't just make their own chips, they must import them from other countries and let themselves scammed!

can you guys talk more than pol replies

>>717461045
Ok. (Lets go of China's leash)

>4080 Super
>7800X3D
god damn it feels good not being a """"waitchad""""

>>717460603 (OP)
isn't micron and nvidia building US manufacturing plants?

>>717462096
nope, not till the list is released

>people who think texas instruments and intel are all there is to computers
"FUCK YEAH, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"
>people who actually know how computers are built
"oh fuk"

Relying on global trade for semiconductors is a clear national security vulnerability. I'm okay with my toys being a little more expensive to have a more resilient country in the long term. Thanks Trump!

>>717460603 (OP)
This is 100% bait, and will be used as a negotiating tactic.

>>717462101
This. Seriously, do people actually not believe we have power over Taiwan? We're literally the only things stopping them from becoming another Hong Kong.

>>717462073
The greatest economic superpower on earth's plan was to have Intel run their domestic chip making business. In the last 10 or so years Intel has massively shit the bed, failed to set up any real production or find any real customers, they've been swapping CEOs and production managers like cheap socks, and nearly a third of their workforce has been laid off this year. The greatest economic superpower on earth's plan is going nowhere.

there hasnt been a single GOOD game released that needs more than a 10 year old gpu. only reason to buy the new ones is to generate ai coom or play AAA moviegame slop
i'll be fine.

has there been any benefits since trump has started doing these tarriffs?
genuine question, im asking with an open mind and good faith

>>717461016
trump is just taken advantage of the competency crisis.

>>717461970
But you have to look at the bright side: the left is totally powned.

>>717462427
yes

>>717460865
Imagine thinking the tech industry will EVER stop sucking the foreign slave labor teat.

My 3050s running just shitty, thank you very much.

>>717462427
the government has collected a nice new tax from its citizens, although it doesnt even come close to covering the budget deficit they imposed on themselves

>>717462365
yeah that's why we'll have tsmc and the others build productions sites here if they expect to see us money

>>717461261
>kids have parents reada bed time story to them
>trump has a child read a list tarrifs to him

>>717462335
That's a bluff america doesn't want to try, because if Taiwan just says "ok" then China gets them all for free leaving america behind in both supply and technology.

>>717462525
when someone asks a question like that, the implication is to provide something more than "yes"

>>717462073
>He fell for Trump's bullshit and is now coping because he doesn't want to admit he got fooled by a big, rotting orange
kek

>>717460865
>Fell for it
>vtuber image to top it off
Okay this is a funny bait. I'll bite.

>>717460669
I'm still upset I missed out on the x3d and I only have a 5800x to show for it (was originally going for 5600 but stock issues)

>>717462073
The greatest economic superpower on earth actually CAN'T make their own chips.
The only company on the entire planet capable of building the chip fabs that can bake modern-day chips, is a European one.
They're literally the only outlet in existence offering that technology at production grade to the market. Their nearest US competitor is still estimated to be a decade away.

>>717462604
No

>>717462578
>if they expect to see us money
Chip demand is inelastic. It doesn't matter how much importers eat on import taxes, we need them.

>>717461045
>we just pretend that taiwan isn't a factory and the tech doesn't come from the Netherlands

>>717460796
You live in Peru KEK

>>717462536
>xx50 card
Do these things even run current games on bare minimum settings?

>>717462718
>The Dutch are the most powerful people on the planet
As it should be

>>717462335
>Seriously, do people actually not believe we have power over Taiwan?
It's not Taiwan and TSMC that are the issue.
TSMC just uses the chip fabs to bake chips.

The company enabling it and the one you need to procure your own chip fabs from, is ASML.
A Dutch company. And the only one in the entire world that can offer the technology. They have the worldwide monopoly on EUV etching at production grade quality.

>>717462764
No. I can’t even load into the games machine

>>717461516
>starve
You AI son? Cause I don't eat semiconductors.

>>717462702
i kneel

>>717462604
alright so basically a lot of countries had ridiculous tarriffs on american good for decades because america is basically the free money machine of the world. then trump came in and decided america was going to return the favor, and the world economy almost collapsed because the world literally, LITERALLY cannot function without gibs from america. so the world agreed to lessen tariffs on american goods.

>>717462778
well excuuuse you

>>717462247
What list?

>>717460603 (OP)
Funny how it's the same influencer account plastered all over this board.

Trump will legalize loli

>>717462660
>literally the entire world depends on computer chips to run
>only one country can produce them and all the the fabrication sites are in one country
How does this shit happen?

>>717462584
>We are honorabru samurai. We choose death over dishonoru.

>>717460865
Sweetie that would require trump to make more jobs and uhhhh idk if anyones told you but thats not happening at all right now lmaooooo

>>717462640
I bought a 5800x on launch and considered getting the 3d version earlier this year but decided to save my money and do a full upgrade next year when UDNA comes out.

>>717461065
>We should just lay down and accept the status quo until things get as bad as they possibly can.... BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE TO

InTel(Aviv)

>>717462612
Pack your bags, jose, you have to go back.

>>717462835
Trump is a disingenuous snake-tongue who lumped in VAT with import taxes when he fed you that lie.

>>717460603 (OP)
It's actually can be true, because some stores in Ukraine raise price at 100%
>>717462138
My bro

>>717462941
I guess we should speed up the mass deportations if there is a labor surplus

It's a 100% tariff against semiconductor manufacturers that aren't currently investing in US manufacturing. But almost all of them already are other than mainland chink companies that don't export anyway.

>>717462660
The greatest superpower on Earth has a population coasting off of post ww2 exports and a completely fabricated global economy. Americans are unironically too stupid to participate in the modern world in a manufacturing capacity, you either have relatively educated white collar people, or uneducated retards with no in between. Those retards were supposed to be upskilled to work modern blue collar jobs, but they didn't of their own volition and there wasn't a good process in place to coerce them into it. So now you have "factory workers" over in asia that do shit like operate and maintain machines, work in clean room semiconductor manufacturing etc. doing relatively skilled blue collar labor, but you have americans who work the "I put the top of the sandwich on" factory jobs being like
>where is muh semiconductor job!
meanwhile their beard crumbs would immediately violate any class 100 clean room.
Too many Americans are too stupid.

>>717462826
Maybe

>>717462919
Nobody wanted to pursue EUV lithography.
Everyone thought it was a fools errand.

ASML soldiered on though - in what was pretty much a Hail Mary play, because the company was headed for the cliff's edge. ... And then they struck gold and made it work.

They gambled big, and won.
Basically - they won at the American Dream.
And they're not even American.

By the time they did, because everyone else had basically abandoned their research a decade earlier thinking it wasn't going to go anywhere, ASML had an entire decade's worth of a head start. Effectively that meant they had immediately conquered the entire market. And everyone else had to play catchup.

Which didn't happen, because most realized they'd be fucked trying to close that gap anyway - as their general understanding of that field of science/engineering was, by then, fundamentally lacking due to a brain drain. All the talent had been sucked up. By ASML.

taiwan doesn't get tarrifed tho

is this actually the usa retardmaxing or is there a chance it ends up being better in the long run?

>>717460865
dumbest monkey in the jungle award

I want to upgrade from my 1050TI.
what's GPU with a good performance/price ratio?

>>717462427
>genuine question, im asking with an open mind and good faith
well, extra moola, for one.
That combined with all the gubment cuts made June the first month in about 9 or 10 years to actually have a surplus of tax dollars as opposed to adding to the deficit. Which in turn opens the door to lowering taxes and fighting inflation, which was as high as 8% in 2022, to where it now is at about 2.5% to 2.7% or so and is on a downward trend according to the CPI, for one. So, the general idea is that we can leverage these tariffs to force better trade deals, which as I understand has worked for the most part, but pissed a lot of countries off since we had some of the least balanced trade deals, including goofy shit like over 200 billion in trade subsidies to Canada, but also as a means to force political clout over countries which has also worked. Also encourages the creation of US manufacturing plants to increase job growth and domestic manufacturing which would make everything cheaper. They are also trying to create legislation to force US companies to hire Americans as opposed to outsourcing for cheap labor, but I have no clue how it'll end up.
That's the general idea, and I think ending national reliance on trade is a net positive and the years our country was the best was when we had strong self reliance and good domestic manufacturing. But these things take time, so naturally time will tell, and every economic advisor who has ever proposed this has said it'll get worse before it gets better, so keep that in mind. That being said, before retards pick apart this post to death, keep in mind that all politicians are evil and I doubt anything is going to get cheaper no matter what, and at BEST this is just going to keep shit from getting more expensive for longer as opposed to actually lowering prices. And any moved saved nationally is just getting shipped to Isntreal.

>>717460865
Anon
You don't just flip a magic factory switch
It takes 3 - 4 years to build a chip plant at best, typically more like 5

I'm stupid so help me understand.
I know with tariffs right now, it costs me like over $1500 to ship a couple pounds of stuff out of country, just like, plushies, or a keyboard.
I could get a fucking plane ticket, go there, and hand deliver it for less.
Is it not the same with this? Could I not go to wherever the next hub is, buy the shit, and come back? Or are they gonna start tossing bags for cpus?

Why should America not be allowed to tariff other countries when they have done it to us for years, decades even?

>>717463280
Trump has actually been very consequential in getting massive investment in US manufacturing but it's gonna be like a decade after Trump is dead that we'll see the fruits of it.

>>717463280
>>717463149
Chip stocks are up after hours for a reason. It's just protectionism for US firms and TSM against theoretical mainland chinese competition, as well as a means to keep apple from backing out of planned factories in the US.

>>717463342
If there is one kind of inflation in recent years I'm okay with, it's the increasing size of anime girl ears we've seen.

>>717463343
>And any moved saved nationally is just getting shipped to Isntreal.
any money saved*

>>717463163
This country has had millions of shitskins poured into it for the last 30/50 years while the jobs leave the country and college is the only way to get a six figure job. It’s the ultimate rat race.

Why not
Set up factories in shitholes that people don't care if are polluted?
Kingston Tennessee.
Turn that bitch into an industrial wasteland producing things with high tarrifs it's already got a fucking COAL plant what's a few more stacks spitting out pollution?

>>717460603 (OP)
well,fuck

i was gonna upgrade my pc next year.

>>717460865

>>717463343
>Also encourages the creation of US manufacturing plants to increase job growth and domestic manufacturing
Worth noting that the opposite has happened thus far. Maybe it will work in the longer term, but right now those sectors are losing jobs.

>por los menos nosotros apropiamos los leftoids epicamente en estilo o algo

>>717463280
Before he got elected president Trump had more debts than assets and he knew he was about to be getting investigated over the shady shit he's done. He doesn't care about the country whatsoever, his main goal in office is to make himself richer and make sure the Epstein stuff doesn't come out.

>>717462726
but Peu is key???

>>717463493
A workforce educated enough to make chips is not going to move to bumfuck nowhere kentucky.

>Upgraded from 6600k / 2070 /32GB RAM to 9800X3D / 5080 / 64GB RAM at original MSRP
Feels good man, I am set for the next 7-8 years at least.

>>717460865
my man, what keep tmsc from expanding is that the job are soooo fucking specific that they are not finding people on America to fill those jobs, hell tmsc have to look for talent from all over the world to keep their own factory up and running

>>717463342
4070 super

>>717463367
>It takes 3 - 4 years to build a chip plant at best, typically more like 5
Last I heard, ASML actually has something of an 8 year backlog and waiting list for new chipfab orders - unless older less complicated models suffice for you.

So you can double those 4 years.

We are literally building them here. You will pay much less, no more Shitwaneese price gouging.

>>717463462
>I didn't learn a skill because brown people learned it first!

>>717463493
Tennessee is full of niggers and high end manufacturing needs a triple digit IQ for every position in the factory.

>>717462640
5700x3d would still be a nice upgrade
but yeah at this point it's time to move on to AM5

>>717460603 (OP)
Orange man winning the popular vote literally mind broke the entirety of the left. Everywhere on earth.

>>717460865
w-we're going to staff the plants exclusively with illegal immigrants to keep labor costs low, right? and, and they'll do a good job, r-right?

>>717460603 (OP)
serious question how does this fuck me in the ass if I'm yurpoor

>>717463682
YES SAAR, 50 MILLION INDIANS BY 2030 VERY GOOD SAAR

>>717463493
A semiconductor plant doesn't have significant amounts of industrial waste. It's micron scale etching of tiny silicon wafers, not a fucking rare earth refinery.

>>717463558
>Maybe it will work in the longer term, but right now those sectors are losing jobs.
isn't that because so many are illegals getting deported?

>>717463367
I feel like the odds of Trump declaring himself King of America and abolishing the concept of democracy entirely by then is more likely than us having a self-sustaining factory system. The fucking US Treasury was asking for Venmo donations, it's fucking staggering.

9950X and 5080. Good for at least 5 years. Probably 7.

>>717463631
Brown people don’t have skills. They mow lawns.

>>717463684
In theory it would make it cheaper for you since sales will dip immediately, but jews would rather burn the company to the ground before lowering prices, so nothing.

>>717463684
If Europe had any semiconductor fabs, they would suffer a tarriff when exporting to the US. But I don't think there are such firms.

>>717463789
yeah all that construction they do, that's not a skill at all

>>717460902
>by the time GPUs with sufficient VRAM
what the fuck is the hold up with this? VRAM should have been MINIMUM STANDARD 24gb in 2025. This shit is ridiculous.

>>717460865
>retarded opinion
>vtuber smug anime girl pic
too good to be true, you must be OP on top of that

>>717463493
America literally does not have the labor force needed to operate any useful scale of of semiconductor manufacturing. And see: >>717463570
I wouldn't even be surprised if trump orchestrates a taiwan invasion and uses it as a reason to poach all of the Taiwanese technicians.
meanwhile rednecks and good ol' boys seething about the immigrants takin' ther jerbs, and they coulda been buildin' them computers instead of all those chinese!

>>717463856
Houses built by browns are infamously terrible.

>>717460865
America really is just India with mexicans in it.

>>717460603 (OP)
taco tuesday

>>717463684
Because if a company realises they can sell something for twice the price and people still buy it, they'll keep that price even in markets where they don't have to. There's a reason why Nintendo games are expensive EVERYWHERE, not just in the USA because of tariffs.

>>717463684
>serious question how does this fuck me in the ass if I'm yurpoor
they're gonna raise prices all over the world to keep american prices as low as possible
xbox already did exactly that

>>717463931
Cite your documentation

>>717463914
>America literally does not have the labor force needed to operate any useful scale of of semiconductor manufacturing.
Like half of US stem graduates can't find work in their field

>>717460865
I'm going to rape this dumbfuck anon. Somebody restrain me.

>>717463978
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6cgh3wDSFPAYETrpLzPSvQ

>>717463405
Because there are no consumer protections that would encourage the company to eat shit, so they will instead just charge end users more. For luxury goods this isn't an issue, but we're seeing it on basic necessities.
People who can't afford their basic necessities or circuses will eventually revolt. Will it be violent? Probably not, but a lot of bitching, until companies either suck up and get them nullified so they can resume revenue flow, or till they pull out, and at least for the foreseeable future, the US will remain a massive source of income, which is why these companies put up with this bullshit in the first place.

The US literally has the third smartest workforce in the world, it can absolutely sustain all the chip production the country needs.

>>717463405
Any country is *allowed* to impose whatever tariffs they want! They're even allowed to block all foreign trade entirely!
It's just a stupid fucking idea, as has been proven pretty conclusively by past trade wars.
If you're really going for an idiotic "fairness" argument, as if the poor little US has been taken advantage of by those big mean foreign countries, keep in mind that
>the US has a massive surplus in SERVICES with basically every nation. For some reason services just don't count I guess.
>the US enjoys major benefits from the USD being the reserve currency of the world (economists refer to it as 'exorbitant privilege'), which is largely because the US is a major consumer
>the US gives massive agricultural subsidies (among other industries) which would swamp the industries of other nations without protections
>even countries with which the US had a surplus of trade in goods got hit with tariffs

>>717464186
the only people who know how gpus works are chinese and korean.

>>717463874
Trying to push consumers into cloud-based solutions more than anything else. That was why there was all that shilling for cloud gaming there for a bit.

>>717464186
>has the third smartest workforce in the world
damn, and half of the country is brown. Imagine how high up we'd be if we kicked out the nigs and spics

>>717463280
He's using tariffs as leaverage for other agendas. That's why he keeps pushing back the big ones.
Nothing is actually going to get built here. Any promises of investment are going to stop immediately the second he's gone.

Trump Rapes Kids

>>717463342
5060ti (16gb)
5070. The ti you don't gain much in performance but you get 16gb, so weigh that how you will
Maybe 9060xt
9070/xt is too expensive in the United States to be worth buying

>>717464186
cap

>>717464186
i mean we CAN build chip, just like china, they are going to be at least 3 or 4 generations behind and it will take decades to get to top tier chips, but doing this retardation doesn’t work.

Yeah I got a RX 6600 and a 7600 CPU
The RX 6600 plays every game I want to play

>>717464228
>free trade jews who make trillions from free trade say it's bad economics to give americans jobs
Kill yourself

>>717464292
ummm you lost tranny

>>717463856
Weed whacker experts

>>717464292
No that's the democrat party that didn't release the files during the Biden term

>>717460865

>>717464127
>pay for mediocre work
>get mediocre work
OH WOWZERS!!!!

>>717460603 (OP)
I have a console

>>717463612
>>717464316
danks

>>717460603 (OP)
>Putting a tariff on a product not made in your country
Huh?

>>717464316
Why would you ever recommend the 50 series over the 40 series

>>717464423
so true that's why we can't release them during the Trump term

>>717464423
then why is the current party avoiding to release them and even trying to memoryhole the subject?

>>717460865
It's ALWAYS an trannime fag. ALWAYS

>>717463343
>including goofy shit like over 200 billion in trade subsidies to Canada
You're literally just parroting Trump's completely made-up bullshit number. Fuck, dude.
When you include services and investments, or exclude oil (which is sold to the US under pretty favorable terms), it's actually Canada that has a deficit with the US.

>>717460603 (OP)
Yep! here it is, CPU and GPU.

>>717464232
But they're designed in america by americans. As much as it makes thirdies seethe basically all important modern innovation comes from the US.

>>717464051
We need a
>THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED
pic starring Luigi.

>>717464446
These homes cost over 500 grand and many over a mil. The work is also not just mediocre, it's shit, it's out of code, it's not safe, and they lie about it.

The guys who learn to code are just going to have to learn to solder.

>>717464504
you LOST tranny

>why did you force me to do this? I just wanted to play videog-AACK

feels good being eurorich

>>717464607
based
what games are you playing?

>>717464525
Both parties did. Because both parties suck jew dick and Epstein was Mossad.

>>717464587
I assumed that anon meant trump complaining about a trade deficit was goofy, not the deficit itself. Maybe not though, it's hard to know these days.

>>717464472
Trump's making our lives harder and claiming it's about American independence. Anyone still sucking his cock are lying to themselves and will most likely continue to do so until they're drafted to fight and die in the name of Isreali supremacy in the middle east

>>717464473
Used pricing too high (internet prices in the United States), might as well just go 50
I mean if you can find a genuine deal go for it, nothing really wrong with them.
Anything older isn't worth considering outside of ultra budget or ai shittery.

>>717464394
Tariffs don't give americans jobs, that's the problem. They're just a big fat drag on the economy as a whole. For example, the steel+aluminum tariffs of Trump's first term cost 75 jobs for every 1 new job they created.
The wide-ranging smoot-hawley tariffs in the 1930s were an absolute, unmitigated disaster.

>>717464587
This is why America ignored all calls about the tariffs on Canada. Canada does not need America.

Conservatives intentionally fuck up the economy because it lets them rob people blind and take advantage of their desperation.

More poor americans = more kids to buy off the black market and traffick them

>>717460865
stop posting pictures of my wife together with your retarded takes please

>>717464763
It's not an accident. They want you to sell your kids for money. It's why they're banning abortion and pushing the natalism meme despite there not being enough resources to go around.

They know poor whites will end up having to sell their own kids into slavery. That's the point.

>>717460865
you think companies are going to commit time, resources, and capital into building facilities here when they know once this orange israeli cock sucker is out of office that they're going to go away?

>>717464667
None, i'm "learning japanese (tm)"
Last lesson was lunar 2: EB

MIGA

>>717464763
YOU LOST TRANNY

Why are people complaining about america trying to be independent? would it not be a good thing if they made everything themselves?

>>717464647
>when you put skills into INT but then have to remove a few points form INT and put split the remaining points into WIS and DEX

>>717464793
That'd be nice if it were true, but the trade war definitely hurts everyone involved.

>>717464795
Maybe if the economy gets bad enough and I'm still doing okay I'll eventually be able to find a gf who is desperate enough for money. Not an Epstein gf though, I just mean a normal one.

>>717460865
>Vtumor picture
>absolutely retarded opinion

name a more iconic duo

>>717464646
welp, i guess your local white skin and blue eyes americans can do an actual proper and better work for 3x times the cost and double the time :^)

>>717460865
As if they're gonna pay your dumbass $20/hour when they have slave children doing it for 0.01¥ a day.
What are you, stupid? They'll just pay the tarrif and increase the retail price to make up the cost.

>>717460603 (OP)
>>717460603 (OP)
As a matter of fact, I did.

u jelly?

>>717464891
>None
holy
good for you
still, gotta try something like factorio that's easy to run on anything

>>717464858
Can't wait for people to ask why my generation is having less kids when they've made everything unsustainable alone, let alone try to make a family. There's no longer an American Dream, just snake oil salesman in big chairs convincing you they'll make it real so long as you kneel

>>717460603 (OP)
FOR REAL THIS TIME GUYS. I'M REALLY GONNA DO IT THIS TIME EVEN WHEN PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW IT WORKS YELL AT ME

>>717464883
He's going to get a 3rd term, and cancel elections, cope.

im glad i boughted buyded before the tarrifs
even got a 5090 for msrp

>>717464921
Its the Chinese and Bankers, their entire economy depends on the US being part of the Globalist system

>>717463405
the same reason most countries have laws against price dumping and other market manipulation tactics
america can't even keep companies like amazon, google, microsoft and apple in check but expect the entire world to open their assholes for the same greedy and corrupt companies

>>717464785
This isn't a wide tariff, it's a tariff against semi firms that they can dodge by building in the US. All of the earlier tariff waves were also just shock and awe tactics to secure more specific agreements, including riders like US access to foreign minerals.

Also smoot hawley gets blamed for shit it had no effect on.

>>717464949
>tfw no kinky Epstein gf who is into all sorts of BDSM and role play while you kidnap her
Why even live?

>>717464921
Independent by pissing off every country in the world and pushing them towards China. Everyone hates Americans now.

>>717465253
my entire life, I have heard nothing BUT shitting on Americans. Literally 24/7.
What's changed?

So america, where are all the memory chips your electronics need coming from?
>errrrrrrrrrr
>...
> >:!
>FUCK YOU

>>717464973
Okay. I never asked for a shitskin slave economy in the first place, nor am I consoomer faggot that would actually have my lifestyle substantially impacted.

>>717465243
I think we thought of different things when I said 'esptein gf'

>>717460603 (OP)
>look at Intel building a plant in Ohio thinking this will be their time to shine
>the plant is endlessly delayed and possibly failing despite billions in government funding
American capitalism is broken. It's filled with soft finance guys who can't build a goddamn thing.

Intel should be the biggest layup in the world given the political climate. Stupid company run by stupid fucks.

>>717465317
France stopped being best buds in 2002.

>>717460603 (OP)
>9800x3d and 5080
yeah I'm good

>>717465342
>Okay. I never asked for a shitskin slave economy in the first place, nor am I consoomer faggot that would actually have my lifestyle substantially impacted.
Sar this is the video game board.

>>717464980
>core ultra series
Ew
Also you forgot your gpu

>>717465317
Now it's personal instead of making fun of fat people and our justifiable fetish for guns.

>>717465317
You've been in a ragebait echo chamber your whole life that has been ruining your psyche the whole time, normal people didn't think that way, now the rest of the worlds also hates america for real reasons as much as you trained yourself to by imagining bad scenarios in your head..

>>717465054
Or migger fatigue reaches its peak, everyone kicks you out of their countries, and suddenly your 195 smashes the jews' 109 record in less than a year.

>>717465426
It's not 2005. Nobody buys physical.

>>717460603 (OP)
>>717460865
Trump is the most retarded orange nigger, you can't make these things in a shed, they need specialized "cleanroom" factories

>>717465391
All they know how to do is use government handouts to buy their own stocks so they get artificially richer

>>717465514
The point is specifically to encourage the construction of such factories here.

>>717463280
honestly, its complex
for a long time america has been content to just sell to everyone else and for the world to enjoy a pax americana
but lately faggots have been getting too uppity for them, they really felt that they had the right to interfere with everyone else's shit and have nobody try to get one over them
the rise of china as an economic powerhouse threatens the current world order, and american has largely been caught out after selling a lot of industry to them for perhaps too long
a stronger position is required to continue to enjoy the position that america has enjoyed for the last few decades
a stronger position is one in which strategic resources and industries are on shore
everyone focuses on manufacturing but the real story is that actually engineering has begun to move offshore, and that is the actual problem from a strategic and security point of view
so i can see why the usa chose to retardmaxx now, because what they are doing currently should be part of a larger solution to their problem, but it remains to be seen as to whether they will fix the egress of actually important professional skills and knowledge
it will all come out in the wash, i would say that it's most likely that the usa will manage to hold on to its position for the next few decades at least
the smart money is on china eventually making a move to formally annex taiwan, unlike hong kong they can't move their people into positions of power in a more stealth way, so for the currently strategically important industry that is located in taiwan, the smart move is to go to whoever gives them the best deal, tariffs arent really a good enough tool to ensure that outcome by themselves, but as part of a suite of incentives they could be relevant
anyway, it will all play out in our lifetimes, i for one am looking forward to the future, although i cant help but feel some fear that we will see a large scale war in the pacific, which will obviously be awful for everyone everywhere

>>717465506
oh so they brainwashed you, well i can't deny that is harder to get phisical stuff nowadays but i always do when i get the chance i fucking hate that miku is only on the digital version of sonic crosworlds and the phisical one only gives you some fucking stickers.

>>717465514
Americans brains still live in the "I started this in my garage! If I just fake it till I make it hard enough I'll work out!" phase of adolescence. Unfortunately the elites do know what reality is like, and continue to foster this mentality to use against them.

>>717460603 (OP)
I've pretty much clocked out of upgrading, honestly. I just emulate now. There's 30 years of games to play. I don't need any more.

India superpower by 2030.

>>717465573
>the smart money is on china eventually making a move to formally annex taiwan
Taiwan would be destroyed before this was allowed

>>717460865
>Once manufacturers set up shop to make semiconductors here in the states, things will be cheaper than they've ever been
If that were to happen, they'd be even more expensive, not cheaper.

>>717465608
Europeans aren't much better and unironically parrot palantir propaganda if its against acceptable targets (LGBT, women, russians, chinese, etc.)

You can laugh at americans all you want, when you act exactly like a migger, you'll be treated like one.

>>717465662
India is indeed a super power right now a shame that its citizens will never see any of that super power money or rewards.

>>717465632
and with how broken games are realizing lately, we will need to change gpu every two years at this rate

>>717462660
yet they are supplying those machines to some small island nation
they could be selling those machines to america instead

>>717465569
Why would they pay out the wazoo for construction costs and much higher worker salaries for a plant that won't be operable until long after trump is gone?
Taiwan holds the cards here, the entire world is reliant on their production, US included. You can tariff whatever you want, we still need the chips.

>>717460603 (OP)
I buyed, though I overspent on my GPU for sure. Oh well. I don't intend to upgrade for 5 or 6 years anyway.

>>717460603 (OP)
Good thing I just got my Asus ROG Astral 5090 OC. I'll be set for the next 5 to 10 years.

>Look it up
>it's another of those fake "picking winners" tarrifs to make CEOs bend to him
I dunno how people can watch this garbage and not think it's repeating the china/russia/random unproductive third world shithole playbook.

Remember how much the BRs complained about this stuff for years?

>>717465692
At least Europeans are being tricked by Thiel, the objectively most scheming and intelligent of the paypal group. Americans are still at the stage of being tricked by Musk, the objectively dumbest one of them.

>>717465569
What company is going to waste multi-millions building facilities here to avoid tariffs that will likely go away in three and a half years?

>>717465431
whoops sorry about that

>>717462961
this is the "things getting as bad as they possibly can," retard

Orange retard pissed off India, the most powerful country in the world and now they're moving to ally with China. Both indian and chinese together would destroy America easily.

>>717465795
>Why would they pay out the wazoo for construction costs and much higher worker salaries for a plant that won't be operable until long after trump is gone?
1. Because they have to start building now or they get tariffed to hell until Trump leaves and possibly after he leaves
2. Because if they make their own fabs they no longer have to pay TSM a cut
3. Because they don't want to be dependent on such a politically vulnerable supplier forever

>>717462961
Retard.

>>717465872
Intel did. They are currently crashing and burning and busy firing about 25% of staff.

>>717465815
>he thinks a 5090 is going to last 5 years without cooking itself or melting the power connector
You'll be lucky to make it to 2.

Why are there so many blumpf lovers on this board

>>717460865
Last pres "tried" but his admin heaped so many absurd preconditions on companies they just took the money and ran
Said preconditions? Racial/gender quotas. Apparently making high quality semiconductors is delicate work that not everyone can do, who knew

Looking to build a new PC, what's the meta for AM5 motherboards? dont know what manufacturer to trust

>>717465253
>this time for realsies, us Euro sissies are going to go from being an American vassal to being a Chinese vassal. Are you scared yet burgers? Please say yes or I'm literally going to hang myself
>Nothing happens again
>>717465897
>Core Ultra
Holy fucking based, you saw through the Ryzen snake oil.

>>717465872
They're literally already starting. The tariff was in fact only enacted to make sure apple didn't try to back out of building in the US, something they only recently agreed to. Intel and Nvidia, among others, have already started work during the Biden admin.

>>717466104
just get a steam deck and plug it to a tv then get a bluetooth KB+M

>>717464982
What i mean is that i use learning japanese as an excuse to play vydia.
In terms of "what it can do", this CPU just keeps surprising me, at a point it can do even light switch emulation.

>>717466082
because politics became a football teams and now you have to defend your side to the death no matter how retarded they are.

>>717466160
>pay extra to get a hot slow conputer with a built in screen and then don't use the screen
lol

>>717465687
yeah it's going to be a massive shitshow if it actually comes to warfare
the geography is extremely unkind to any kind of invasion, there is quite a lot of firepower already there, and any buildup to invasion will be extremely obvious and will result in the dispatch of any number of fleets for security
if china were smart (they aren't) they would do it the way that civilized people have unified instead of by intimidation, but the people of taiwan seem to be uniquely immune to the chinkinese brand of information and political warfare
but the importance of taiwan is predicated on taiwan remaining strategically important because of the industry that is there currently, america is doing the smarter thing by attempting to onshore the vital commerce and industry that is there currently
taiwan has a pretty massive incentive to hold on to it all because it's what keeps them under uncle sam's umbrella, but i think it's more than likely that eventually the usa will onshore enough chip manufacturing that taiwan will become more trouble than its worth
be real, nobody actually cares about the plight of the taiwanese people, who deserve to be free from the yoke of foreign powers, and certainly deserve to be free from china, but nobody actually gets what they deserve on this gay earth, people only get what they can secure from others

>>717465872
It's actually possible that some rich person or group does it. But the public should know that
a) prices will not go down, the company will set prices at the same as the international tariff price because anything less is just leaving money on the table
>Hypothetically that at least means more jobs and money staying in the US, right?
and b) sure, but who makes the decisions about where that money goes? It sure isn't the fab workers (it COULD be, but unions are evil and icky in America), so americans pay a lot more for a ton of common goods, A tiny fraction get jobs that go out of their way to pay them as little as possible, and the money that was previously tariff revenue now goes to 1 person (or small group) who happened to have the money to build a fab

>>717460865
Anon, why do you think getting bent over and fucked in the ass is okay?

>>717466125
>snake oil
When did snake oil start to mean losing in performance to a cheaper competitor?

>>717466076
That's why you monitor the amperage retard. Astral comes with a power detector.

>>717465054
Genuinely I think storming the White House is more likely than him getting a third term. And not storming the White House by his command like when he did his gay little coup on January 6th, I mean storming the White House to drag him out of it and slit his throat while he pleads for his life and shits his pants.

>>717466104
>what's the meta for AM5 motherboards
Intel doesn't have this problem :)
Intel also exempt from the tariff :)
Just buy literally any Z motherboard and be happy :)

>>717466284
It doesn't even have a hot spot temp sensor because it's so bad. It's going to die within 2 years.

>>717466104
apparently asrock was okay last i heard
avoid asus iirc
>>>/g/pcbg

>>717466125
>Ryzen snake oil.
This anon gets their info from LoserBenchmark lmao.

Any real war leads to nukes flying. Nobody cares anymore and everyone hates each other.
>m-muh nukes aren't real
You fell for psyops to make it easier to sleep at night. It's no different than believing in a magic sky jew because you're afraid of there being no afterlife or a disagreeable afterlife (reincarnation, etc.)

>>717464793
>Canada does not need America
Canada could find other countries, but the problem is that will take time and money because Canada chose to entwine themselves so much with America because nobody thought someone could be as fucking stupid as Trump and destroy one of the best relationships between countries in the world.

>>717466305
You couldn't slice a sandwich you fucking tranny

>>717460865
Don't use mococo for you shitty bait RETARD

What would happen if Taiwan exploded tomorrow?

>>717466250
I genuinely think Taiwan is aware of this and just holding out on the hopes that China's demographic problem becomes so terrible that it renders invasion untenable both politically and physically for them. Not that Taiwan is in a much better demographic shape but they've been preparing for an invasion from China for literal decades, the island is a fucking fortress. Even the lowest of low-ball estimates for taking the island result in multi-million man casualties for the Chinese side, if their population really starts to go into freefall losing that many young men of breeding age in an invasion isn't exactly the greatest selling point.

>>717466356
Problem?

>>717466373
Zero self awareness
Canadians are the new dindus

>>717462427

I'm not sure but there was never going to be alot of benefit in the short term. That's not what it's about and that's not why people support the tariffs. It's about the long term game and having a trade policy that makes some amount of fucking sense and putting this country's interests first rather than getting fucked over for no good reason.

>>717466393
Who said I'd be doing it, vatnik?

>>717460865
>>717460603 (OP)
as someone who wants this to actually happen i know what a semiconductor is and know that this wont ever happen. please understand, the civil rights act makes doing business in the us a nightmare. a single poojeet who didnt wash his hands will ruin an entire batch of 5090s

>>717466393
Why aren’t you enlisting for your greatest ally like your orange daddy told you?

>>717460865
I love how you triggered all the shills and retards who don't know the move is already happening.

>>717466454
bye bye AI(thank god)

>>717460603 (OP)
wouldnt putting any tariff on semicondutors be pretty much financially ruinous for the united states?

>>717466487
So you where one of the 13 people that bought a 285k? What's it like to own something so unique and rare?

>>717466454
We'd find somewhere else to waste taxpayer money, maybe Antarctica

>>717463562
Let me guess, you also believe in the Russian collusion conspiracy theory too?

>>717463914

With you people, it's always negativity and excuses on why nothing can be done ever. Fuck off to Cuba where you belong you fucking loser.

>>717466547
All you have to do is pink promise to build fabs in the US and trump lets you off the hook (you don't actually have to build them btw).

>>717460865
Yeah, I'm sure your grand kids will get GPUs for practically free.

>>717466480
>>717466250
the problem of a Chinese-Taiwan war is that you re going to drag on America and america is going to drag on Japan, Korea, Australia, etc.

it’s going to be a shit show

>>717460603 (OP)
This only hurts BRICs, and good riddance. I will be buying my $299 6080 in the US, tariff free

>>717460865
>>717461906
>>717466408
Sally (Mococ IRL) is cuuuute!

>>717460865
>>717466530
that was my first thought

>bought my 9800X3D & 5070 Ti two months ago
Feels good man

>>717460865
Yeah that'll only take 8 years, maybe more
And by then orange man won't be in office
And whoever replaces him will likely get rid of the tariffs due to popular demand

>>717466670
It's kind of amazing that he thinks any of the countries who agreed to invest billions into the US, and all the profit will go to the US, will actually pay up.

>>717463914
>America literally does not have the labor force needed to operate any useful scale of of semiconductor manufacturing

This is absolute bullshit kike logic. It's the same as the one suggesting that illegal immigrants are only taking the "jobs nobody wants to do." It's not that we don't have the talent, it's that no company wants to pay their employees a fair wage. They want cheap, exploitable workers who they can force to work overtime, pay half the salary and have leverage over them. It was never about merit when it comes to H1B Pajeets and illegal Jose's.

>>717466529
Because unlike that fat fuck, I don't bow to heebs.

>>717466781
>Trump Says
>Trump Says
>Trump Says
Almost everything that comes out Trump's mouth is pure bullshit though.

>>717466798
Don't worry, we can enslave every MAGA faggot to work in these factories for pennies for their crimes against america and for aiding and abetting pedophiles (epstein and trump and their friends)

>5090 literally just came in the mail
haha yes, now I can train all of the upscaling models I want!

>>717466875
So why does anyone care what he says?

>>717466670
None of the prefabs Biden funded have even been built yet lol, all you people are brainrotted beyond belief

>>717460603 (OP)
At what point does somebody actually do something about the fact that the president doesn't have the fucking authority to use tariffs like this? Holy shit

>>717460603 (OP)
Trump really is doing anything he can to distract people from Epstein huh?
It's the most obvious thing in the world, and the fucked up thing is that /pol/ doesn't realize it

>>717466798
Whoever replaces him is going to stop the manufacturing meme too
If they don't then it's the biggest red flag for WW3

>>717466480
i've seen assessments that say china will make a move involving force within the decade because of this very issue, i do hope china relents, but they do appear to be absolutely hellbent on reunifying with taiwan
at least if you take their officials at face value, which is probably foolish considering their face culture
>>717466676
honestly it really will, if they attempt an amphibious landing while taiwan is under the protection of the usa the level of resulting warfare will be a much higher intensity than anyone has seen for quite a while, bombs everywhere, jets everywhere, missiles everywhere
all in glorious 4k

If you can afford these prices, you're rich enough to be taxed.

>>717460865
good luck in your dream jobs burgers!

>>717460865
Quality bait

Where did all of these discord and Reddit trannies come from?

>>717462073
>the greatest economic superpower on earth
But enough about China, what are you guys going to do about it?

>>717466934
It's be very entertaining watching the usual conspiracy nutjobs have a meltdown and not know what to do when an actual conspiracy is right there in the open in front of them.

>>717466906
>Trump isn't bringing manufacturing here
>YEAH WELL BIDEN DIDN'T EITHER
Damn it's almost like corporations have no interest in actually doing it or something

>>717460603 (OP)
BURGERS FELL FOR IT AGAIN KEK

>>717466960
War over taiwan is WW3. They nuke the factories so nobody can take them and get the lead in semiconductors.

AI has changed the game. Nobody wants to fall behind and they will do any extreme act necessary to prevent losing the AI war.

>>717467027
Then who cares if corporations get fucked by tariffs?

>>717466517
Then who, retard? The left is composed entirely of transexuals, niggers, and women. You a voter block of useless eaters. Trump is increasingly unpopular on the right of course, for bowing to jews and being to moderate. Which is exactly why he wouldn't try to somehow run for a third term. Not that he respects the law, but that he's a pussy.

>>717467095
corporations dont pay tariffs

>>717467024
Shit is so fucking obvious it's amazing.
Also now with Trump sucking EVEN MORE Israel cock and the schizos can't do simple fucking math.

>>717460865
You really riled of all retards with this one

>>717466998
Trannies don't rape american kids on private islands, underpay me, or raise the prices of the only thing that distract me from this shit world.

Trannies didn't buy up all the houses and collude to raise rents. Trannies didn't send billions to israel. Trannies aren't trying to start WW3.

>GPUs and CPUs now cost millions of dollars to upgrade
>Devs are now forced to optimize on current hardware if they want to sell games at all
Got what I voted for

>>717465354
Ah, sorry. You must have been thinking of jizzlaine Hagswell and spirit cooking and all that weird troon shit

>>717467052
You get to pick between two guys and a shitload of corrupt people behind each.
They chosen this hell over the other hell.

>>717461065
unironically, how come ameritards are so blind? every goddamn administration has been worse than the previous one for the last few decades AND they still going about "hurr durr muh right" "hurr durr muh left"

literally how?

>>717467095
Because they pass the tariff down to the consumer.

>>717467126
Then why do corporations care how high tariffs are?

>>717467095
We do because we pay for it stupid. Tariffs are just shorthand for import tax.

>>717467164
have you seen how games run on the switch and xbox series s? they're not 'optimizing' shit, the new normal will be playing games at 6th resolutions with upscaling, frame gen, muddy textures and terrible level of detail

>>717467164
Games are more or less well optimized thanks to the steam deck.
But they WILL lie about the minimum specs.

>>717460865
holy bait anon, exquisite even.

>>717467027
That wasn't his point retard. The point is that these things take years to do and this reality is already baked into the policy

>>717467212
What do corporations care what they're charging their customers?

>>717467226
Turns out that fewer people buy stuff when it's more expensive. Weird huh?

>>717467226
because for once they're not the ones scamming customers

So many armchair economists ITT.
Most likely BRIC shitters

>>717466875
the taiwan guy building the factory announced its construction months ago, shill.

>>717467246
You don't pay an import tax. You're poor, in debt and rely on government handouts to survive. You benefit from import taxes.

>>717466832
No, the farm labor is a matter of people not wanting to do the jobs for the price being offered (which is true), but with semiconductors the problem is genuinely that the skillset doesn't exist here. Yes people lie about these kinds of things to depreciate labor, but the labor pool will take years to develop, and would probably need a kind of cross pollination program with taiwan to start having americans getting experience in the taiwanese fabs while the ones in America are built.
Americans don't want that because they don't believe in learning or expertise, they just want to go from "yeehaw, I run mah lawnmower, I know how things work" to working in a semiconductor fab. And by 'them' I mean 'other people' the ones who think this don't actually want to work in factories either, they just expect other people to do it as polling suggests.

>>717467251
>Triple AAA games from the last 3 years literally unplayable without mods
Yeah okay
Games are optimized for the gaystation first, on pc your scaling is an option for ultra potato mode or more ray tracing

>>717466946
Getting companies to build tech factories in the US is popular actually

>>717463249
I enjoyed reading this post. Thank you for not being a retard and actually sharing something of value.

>>717460865
>vtuber tranime AGP troon
>2 digit full retard post
pottery

>>717467164
I’ll be playing 20 year old games at 240fps(my monitors natural refresh rate) and there’s nothing the Jews can do to stop me
I won.

I did because I'm not some MAGA retard that eats up all of Trump's lies.

>>717467341
i typically only ever post in economics threads on /v/
and other boards too
t. actuary

>>717467321
Good. People buy too much junk anyways.

>>717467323
>corporations not scamming customers
Uh, okay, Shekelstein.

>>717467194
>too lazy restructure the government from the ground up
>too tribal to come to some agreement in the middle
>too far up their own asses to admit the people they supported are actually wrong

>>717467172
I just meant an adult, normal, non-trafficked gf, anon.

>>717467163
They did actually, trannies are jewish movement. The whole left is.

>>717467095
That's painfully lefty anon

Where were all the politics crybabies ITT when cryptomining raped the GPU market?

>>717467298
higher prices supress demand
economics 101

>>717460603 (OP)
Does no one read past the headline? Nvidia, TSMC, Micron, and other companies will be exempt from tariffs because they've committed to investing in America.

I swear, /v/ is full of illiterate browns and 3rd world diaspora.

ORANGE MAN BAD!
ORANGE MAN BAD!
ORANGE MAN BAD!
ORANGE MAN BAD!
ORANGE MAN BAD!
ORANGE MAN BAD!
ORANGE MAN BAD!

>>717467194
The only bad thing Trump has done so far is suck israel's dick.

>>717460865
sir, please, can you spare a (you) for a poor american who has fallen into ruin?

>>717467371
In order to do that they would unironically need to exterminate every rightoid (they are overwhelmingly anti-intellectual, low IQ, lazy) and employ women and the fags/trannies they hate so much again, like how it was during the saturn project.

Computer science used to be a 'woman's' field lmao. They would hire seamstresses to wire shit because they had the best hands to do it.

The right wing acts like fucking indians. They all try to scam you and each other. You can't build or maintain civilization. Literal furries and perverts are worth more to society than a rightoid is.

>>717467492
getting rich in a generational goldrush, duh

>>717467513
Good. Demand is bad. Demand only helps corporations and businesses. Economics is the tool of the wealth and powerful. It's only merit is oppression.

>>717460603 (OP)
This is what you all voted for right? To make everything more expensive?

>>717460603 (OP)
Abandon all hope because even when the Dems retake power they'll leave most of the tariffs in place

>>717460865
>announce taxe to china
>instantly invest more money into taiwan or whatever shithole with slave
jew are really retarded and can't read between line

>>717467424
>NOOOO YOU DONT GET IT SHE WAS ONLY 17 YEARS, 364 DAYS, AND 23 HOURS AND 59 MINUTES OLD
>SHE WAS UNDERAGE, xhe was RAPED by that OLD 18 YEAR OLD ELDERLY MAN AT THAT PARTY!
This is what you sound like

>>717467382
I seem many cases where its like
>the minimum specs for this game are <shit that is 2-3x faster than a PS5 pro
>btw it runs on the steam deck just fine

>>717467564
Was it really a goldrush? Buying 100 video cards to mine 0.00001 of a bitcoin?

>>717467535
Honestly, they'd be better off just spamming that.

>>717466602
what else do they have?

>>717467536
Trump doesn’t give a FUCK about Israel, he just likes making Europoors seethe because they shit on America 24/7

>>717467556
You have not a sine fucking clue what you're talking about. Women did basic arithmatic, that's all. All engineering work was and is done by men.

>>717467117
posts like this are why you don't get invited to family holidays, managed to turn a bipartisan issue (KILL DONALD TRUMP) into a smooth, sexy, powerful right-wing vs. ugly, ineffectual, stupid left-wing ego stroke. the textual equivalent of public masturbation

>>717460603 (OP)
>>717460865

>>717460603 (OP)
>Tax the rich
>No, not like that!
Enjoy 4 more years of losing, troon.

>>717460865
The amount of angry replies you got just proves your point correct.

>>717460865
yeah in 20 years? cant wait

What does /v/ care? You pirate everything you own. Go pirate some new semi-conductors.

>>717460865
It's probably easier to build a nuclear power plant than it is to build a semiconductor processing plant.

It's the single handedly most advanced factory in human history

>>717466989
Tell me again why this is a bad thing?
If I was a kid and needed money, I wouldn't mind working in an American sweatshop with air conditioning for a few hours every other day. Minimum wage is great for kids.

>>717467653
Why didn’t trump use his magic powers and make the food prices go down? Biden had such cheaper food! It was only just yesterday that the news told me Biden did the good thing and Trump did the bad thing!

>>717467734
? Data entry used to be an exclusively women's field for the same reason the female secretary stereotype existed. Office managers wanted a woman to rape in the office and as a side bonus they thought most real paper-pushing and scheduling was beneath them

>>717460865
>xhe's trying to trvst the plan

>>717467858
>Why didn’t trump use his magic powers and make the food prices go down?
The free market will fix it

>>717467837
Where is this factory?

>>717467598
Dems are never taking power again. All republicans under 40 are nazis. Niggers don't care about tranny politics. Deportations and visa reductions are sapping blue district populations. Perhaps most importantly, the dysgenic effect of leftoidism is directly shrinking their voter base

>>717466989
America was born with slavery. It's the best thing we've ever had. The problem with American slavery was that it was limited to only blacks. When America legalizes slavery again and it's available to any non-citizen, we'll be able to out compete the Chinese, Indians, and anyone else in the world.

>>717467839
why would a kid pay 2 millions of dollars and study for 15 year to get a shit paper when they can just work for money right now ?

>>717466250
>>717466480
China invading Taiwan would be worse than Iwo Jima + Okinawa combined
It would be Operation Downfall tier
The Pacific War was all about invading tiny well defended islands and showed you need big power disparity over your opponent and naval dominance to not get chewed up too badly
The collateral damage will be even worse than a direct war with Russia because China is everywhere now. All of East Asia will turn into a warzone. I dunno about SEA though

>>717460865
there's never been a time in history when the jews have lowered prices

>>717467796
Your post just illustrated something to me. If China could make their own chips to beat out Taiwan they absolutely would. But they don't because seemingly they can't, which is why they want to conquer Taiwan so much.
What's so special about Taiwan that they're the only country in the world that can make the things we need?

>>717467916
>It has to get done now now now!
>Just ignore that Trump already undid a good 30% of 40 years of offshoring jobs in under a year!
You lost.

>>717467796
Comrade Xi please, my country yearns for freedom

Bought a Switch 2. This won't affect me.

>>717467728
Trump's admin routinely violates the first amendment to punish criticism of the kikes

>>717467935
Most of America is pissed off at the right and want the democrats back in power. Republicans are never going into power again after a massive disaster this whole presidency is.

>>717460603 (OP)
Did a complete overhaul of my computer as soon as Trump won the election but before he got sworn in. Just random luck really, no one could have predicted this, haha

>>717467935
>All republicans under 40 are nazis.
Which would be great for the right if every republican over 40 (which includes all the ones in public office) weren't insane jew worshipers putting off anyone from actually supporting them.

>>717468032
>But da jews!
go back to /pol/

>>717467946
Are you retarded or do you not understand why a teenager would want a part time job? I don't see anything wrong with that part-time job being in an Americanized sweatshop as opposed to some pizza joint or McDonalds.

>>717467967
Just nuke the island. Then no one can have it.

>Grabbed 9070 at $600 USD two months ago
>Still content with my 5900X though concerned how it still gives me a corrected MCE once every month or two since I got it 3 years ago
I'll manage. Surely the global situation will improve by the time AM6 is out.

>>717467967
It take a few months for them to take Taiwan and then the US would give up realizing they can't take it back or defend it to begin with.

>>717467814
>hears "tax the American rich"
>forced through the patented Trump-O-Matic™ Alz-Heim-O™ Brain Fog™ filter inherited from his father Fred (Biden's fault it's in place, of course)
>taxes the already poor on foreign goods with no local alternative

>>717467796
>Murrica shooting itself in the foot and pissing of its allies because trade is hecking bad actually
>Yurop passing draconian censorship laws as they slide into irrelevance
>China demographically so fucked up the ass it'd take them 30 years to return to some degree of normalcy if every woman in the country started pumping out 3 kids yesterday
>Japan fading out into relative nothing
>Middle East constantly sliding into clusterfuck #10 billion
>Russia smashing its young against a rock and sending their economy into the woodchipper
>Latin America and Southeast Asia's Demographics have completely imploded in just the last decade
>India is fucking India
>Africa is fucking Africa
Brother, there ain't nobody winning here. The 21st Century is starting to turn into a real clusterfuck

>ONLY TAIWAN CHINK CAN DO CHIP
Who invented the computer? Who invented the litho? Who invented the EUV? Definitely not chink. You think white can't do what chink can?

>>717460865
FELL
FOR
IT
AGAIN
AWARD!

good

>>717460865
That would take years and still cost more due to union costs you stupid Zogogo poster.

>>717466781
it took apple like 15 years just to build a new office building and people seriously think that onshoring is gonna happen anytime soon lmao

>>717468142
WE'RE BRINGING BACK SLAVERY YOU DUMB FUCK

>>717460865
someone link the
"TSMC plant having trouble finding americans since they're too fucking dumb"

>>717467924
Guatemala

>>717467935
>All republicans under 40 are nazis.

This is why the democrats are gonna win so hard, they're the anti jew party compared to republicans. Everyone under 40 does not mind democrat policies compared to the insane jew dick sucking all the right does.

>>717468034
>Most of America is pissed off at the right and want the democrats back in power
What an insanely delusional/European post, please don't speak on things you know nothing of.

>>717460865
anon
kek

>people STILL defending Trump after the whole Epstein and Israel thing
I sincerely don't understand.

>>717467814
Tariffs are a regressive tax you retard, this is literally "tax the poor"

>>717468013
source: maga patriots in control dot q

>>717468129
Show me the American/European fab that can crank out 2nm chips. I'll wait.

>>717468178
They just imported their own people into America lol. Trump is forcing foreigners to work in American factories legally.

>>717468116
AI might not be a nothingburger so it's going to look at all this and correctly reason that the proper move is to kill us all and enslave any survivors.

We are seeing nukes by 2030. 100%

>Thread archive without reaching limit
I'm noticing.

There is nothing wrong with moving important semiconductor manufacturing away from a place close to China

>>717468007
China is catching up quickly, the first domestically made GPU is going into full production by the end of the year
>What's so special about Taiwan that they're the only country in the world that can make the things we need?
they invested big time in R&D in the 90's

>>717468245
jej so pathetic

>>717468195
Maybe worship israel harder, the right completely lost and the culture is turning back the anti woke wave of the past few years.

>>717468104
Thank you for literally proving my point that you do not really want to tax the rich. You lost.

>>717468206
Poor people aren't buying semi-conductors are their derivative products. They're spending all their money on rent, fuel, and food. Only rich people can afford iPhones.

>>717468252
rapeape grants special protections to off-topic /pol/ threads while whining on twitter about nobody using the correct board topics for their threads

>>717468252
Mods are fucking miggers. Always have been. Anything remotely critical of trump has been jannied fast while culture war bait shit stays up until limit.

>>717468249
I wish the AI was actually sentient and not just another tech scam so it could do this shit. We deserve it.

>>717468190
>they're the anti jew party compared to republicans.
lmao no. Both parties are Israel's slaves.
AIPAC has too much power. Even that sexy brown whore, AOC, has voted to give money to Israel

>>717467780
"Kill Donald Trump" is not a bipartisan issue, retard. It is a delusional fantasy of pornsick SSRI zombies who think that they're living through the fourth reich because a Venezuelan cartel member got deported. The average republican voter is ten times as extreme as Trump.

Also, it's leftards that have bad relationships with their families.

>>717468280
hey, if they can invest bigly, so can we. just trust the plan for 30 more years and we'll be cranking out all-american chips in no time

>>717468195
Remember, these are the same people telling you that you can chop off your penis to be a girl and that Biden did not have dementia.

>>717468206
Ah yes, poor people are buying new computer parts, lmao. You lost.

>>717468034
You're assuming elections will still be a thing in three and a half years. Israel tore of the veil, there is only more feigned normalcy anymore, the 20th/21st century status quo is over.

>>717468280
They couldn't be bothered to put a reverse blade fan on the middle slot to reduce turbulence?

>Trade is bad
fell for it again!

>>717466270
id be fine with that but not expensive gpus

Hey, uuuuh... Videogames?

Release the list

>>717468397
Hasn't been since 2012.

>>717468294
It's not my fault nor is it my concern that Trump is obsessed with tariffs because he learned American history at the foot of his brain-damaged father who substituted love and life-lessons with $200k a year from the age of 3.

>>717460603 (OP)
I'm sure one of his tard wranglers will shut this down before it does any damage.

>>717468360
it's not just investment it's decades of R&D and iteration

>>717467872
>Data entry used to be an exclusively women's field for the same reason the female secretary stereotype existed
Yeah, because it's fucking easy. You literally just read and type, you can train a chimp to do it. Maintaining a schedule is, likewise, trivial, and thus was a task fitting for a woman, who could not actually contribute to the products or services of the firm in question.

>>717468397
I’m playing blasphemous trough

>>717468293
Once again an absolutely insane post, if you lived in America (and the rich (and exclusively white/jewish) parts of LA and NYC don't count) you would know that isn't true.

>>717468308
>>717468315
>Mods and jannies are literally proven to be far lefty and troons
>call them maga trump supporters
you people are mentally ill

>>717468397
that'll be 900$ +tariff +tip

>>717468503
Ignoring my own explanation and half of my post to substitute it with your own is decidedly womanly of you

>>717468473
If this were 2017 that would be true but there are no tard wranglers now, just fellow tards also fucking shit up alongside him.

>>717468397
You play video games on semiconductors, dingus.

>>717463939
the current SIG SAUER controversy actually supports this

>>717468521
And you'd still bitch video games suck.

>>717460603 (OP)
I did back in 2023.

>>717468464
Not an argument. You lost.

>>717468082
/pol/ website
/pol/ country
/pol/ universe

>>717468307
>Only rich people can afford iPhones.
if you don't live in america then don't comment, retard

Why are Asian workers so much better at this stuff than American ones?

>>717468517
>Mods and jannies are literally proven to be far lefty and troons
Oh you're one of those retards that thinks the Israel flag number on 4plebs and the .gov email addresses were real
Stay on Kiwi Farms where you'll be in better company (though you can't escape your leader being a pedophile even there, say hi to Null for me)

>>717460865
I can't believe this obvious bait post got this many replies

>>717460865
This anon gets it. Tariffs are a way for the government to do what the consumer will now, which is to stop rewarding greedy companies with revenue. The asian semiconductor industry acts like a monopoly, setting ever higher prices because they know people and companies will continue to buy their semiconductors.

People should have stopped buying at these high prices but people, especially Americans, are addicted to new technology. The best thing is for tariffs on asian semiconductors to go to 300% or higher so that the Americans stop buying which will end the revenue stream for the ultra-greedy asian semiconductor industry.

Then, in the void created by the high tariffs, American and European semiconductor companies will emerge, adding to the competition in the semiconductor industry, breaking the asian monopoly, which will ultimately bring prices back to within reason.


Summer of 2016, when the new top-of-the-line GTX 1080 cards hit the market, they were priced at $499 with $30 to $50 rebates. Yes, many people paid $450 for a brand new GTX 1080. Greed is the reason cards are as high as they are a mere nine years later.

>>717468190
>Everyone under 40 does not mind democrat policies compared to the insane jew dick sucking all the right does.
Both parties suck jew dick, and everyone on the right knows that the insane social political beliefs that are core to the democrat platform were invented by jews.

>>717468397
the offsiters are having another screaming tantrum

>>717468601
Zoomers aren't really right-wing and maga fatigue will make them hate rightwing ideology any more.

It will be associated with poverty, starvation, misery. Why the fuck do you think zoomers will worship the very reason why they'll never own houses? lol

Please keep living in delusion. It will be delicious when it finally shatters with the angry zoomoids outside your house with torches.

>>717468601
>Only us trannies are allowed to talk about politics!
Go back to /pol/.

>>717468512
I can't tell you how happy I am that clean Asian people assemble my electronics and not Americans.

>>717468135
Samefag

think this is foreshadowing china invading taiwan within the next few months

>>717468293
>the culture is turning back the anti woke wave of the past few years.
you're never getting Concord back

>>717468517
I've been banned exactly 3 times from 4chan, all on this board and all for racism (saying Niger)

>>717468634
Poor people spending their money on iPhones deserve to be taxed and poor. They're retards and should've been aborted to save society from their stupidity.

>>717468647
>Don't believe your lying eyes!
>Let me provide context
You lost.

>>717468678
People have more nigger fatigue then whatever you are talking about.

>>717468007
>only country in the world that can make the things we need?

it is like how silicon valley used to be the nerd software mecca. IF you wanted to work on software you went there. but then why no one else do it too? Because that place is the pioneer in everything related to software no one else knew about what a microshart was really under the hood but them.
so how about going there, learning how things are done and then go back to your country/county/cunt and make a mini silicon valley there?
Lazyness(why go somewhere when it is right there with all your needs?), lack of capital(billions of billions), lack of machinery(anyone can buy/construct an olive oil press but tell me where the fuck are you getting Fab equipment/spare parts when it breaks/quality control)
It is way too much capital investment JUST to set up a fabricator, let alone the fucking skilled hands that will need to learn. They became the Only place because they received all they needed and now everyone who wants to learn goes with them but no one can set up their own /biz/ cuz you need to be a billionaire.

>>717460865
>Ruffian that doesn't hate the tariffs
Please stop using images of my wife in your shitposts

>>717468761
>nigger fatigue
way to self-report you are, in fact, a kiwi farms crossie

>>717468190
>the demokkrats are gunna win, j-j-j-ust you wait Chuddy! Everyone hates Harumph!
Spotted the Kikanabi twitch bot who lives in an alternate troonscape reality

>>717468542
I ignored your babbling because it's obviously stupid. You seriously think making a schedule is intellectually challenging? Are YOU a fucking woman?

>>717460603 (OP)
Just live in a country that doesn't enact economic sanctions on itself and you'll be fine.

>>717460865
Ok, your b8 worked

>>717468397
I stop playing video games and started table top games instead. Fuck all this shit

>>717468752
Poor people get free phones though, either from the goverment or the phone company.

>>717468187
I’ll look into it, but I’m pretty sure it was supposed to be in tinoctictlan

>>717468678
>Why the fuck do you think zoomers will worship the very reason why they'll never own houses?
They won't, that's why they're nazis. In 20 years you will yearn for the years of that faggot neocon trump.

>>717467535
this but unironically

>>717468103
just like it would take russia three days to take kiev?

>>717462578
Are you really so retarded that you don't understand that buying TSMC chips isn't an option for your country and entire industries would collapse without them at this point?
Your entire stock market top performers, the most valuable companies on the planet, rely completely or TSMC chips.
You will buy the chips whatever the prices. Trump is, again, shitting the bed.

>>717468656
>Exhaust in front of tower cooler
Big oof.

>>717468826
Loving the sound of your own voice so much you'll carry on conversations with yourself, and pulling the "no u" card, are EXTREMELY womanly

>>717468882
Who's handing out free $1000 iPhones to poor people?

>>717468786
Literally everyone has been using this term, including on this site. All you can do is gaslight and lie that even your average joe knows your bullshitting.

>Trump sets up Tariffs
>My favourite ETF crashes
>buy it cheap
>Trump goes back on his tariffs
>make $40,000
>sold 3 days ago
>mfw seeing it crash again

>>717460603 (OP)
Trump has been saying that for the entire year and he always chickens out.

>>717460865
You do know that the person who's picture you posted had a massive price hike on her merch due to Trump tariffs right?
Brother, Mococo would probably strangle him herself.

>>717468890
Your ideology will die like it always has. Fascists always lose. Your ideology is retarded and the most successful fascist state in this world is fucking israel, lmao. Everyone hates you.

>>717468958
Answer the question, heeb, do you think shit like data entry and being a secretary is even comparable to being an engineer?

>>717468932
And TSMC would collapse without those industries. It needs buyers and markets. If it could, it would just sell to the Chinese, but it knows that's worse. Cause the Chinese will only buy it until they can copy it.

Should have never offshored those jobs in the first place dummies.

>>717468932
that's only because they let this happen for some reason
the us never should've let the industry to evolve like this and make everyone dependent on taiwan
it's time to fix this and bring it home

>>717468646
some mixture of willing to work harder and just cleaner facilities
burgers would never for the same rates
I think Japan still has the purest silicon (wafer) process that's even used in all the UV dying

>>717460865
>vtumour is retarded for (you)'s
whore

>>717468979
>Literally everyone has been using this term
No, not everyone was a Shazamposter, called everybody pornsick cumbrains, not everyone thought Baneposting was funny, called everybody a tranny, called everybody a cuck.

You, meanwhile, have seamlessly adapted "gaslighting" into your lexicon at the behest of your 2010 Tumblr radfem masters. Have you no shame?

>>717469020
>Fascists always lose.
Which non-Fascist state is winning today? EU? Canada? Japan?

>>717469020
Both sides of WWII were fascist you retard. Except the USSR, and they got the absolute shit kicked out of them.

The fact of the matter is that video games are degenerate time wasting slop that destroys masculinity. America'syouth will be better off without this crap. Imagine a country where young kids aren't scrambling for the latest gacha game, or pursuing "careers" as a streamer or influencer, and instead we're working hard to contribute to society. Would be peak masculinity kino

>>717468932
Japanese already got to 2nm, don't pretend that there is no option other than TSMC

>>717469028
No I won't deign to answer your stupid question after making an extant effort to deflect on being called a woman. That's very womanly and I won't be doing it. Only women argue with somebody that talks to themself.

>>717469065
hey! Where are all the fat unemployed losers who don't even have their GEDs? Those are the REAL heart of America!

>open up twitch
>first thing you see is this faggot spoiled Goatfucker who reads his anti-trump rhetoric that he gets from his rabbi
>mfw hes afraid to fight Sam Hyde
Geg

>>717469207
Without them, you wouldn't have any retarded consumers to buy overpriced shit like GPUs and iPhones.

>>717460865
goodest goy

>>717466305
>White House by his command like when he did his gay little coup on January 6th
They won.

>>717469181
I accept your concession /co/ tranny

The fact that Trump being a jew worshipper and breaking rightoid's brains is funny to watch. No one knows whos a jew anymore

>fascists trying to ethug it up
lmao
you would crumble the minute you were against the "violent blacks and mexicans" you hate so much.

>>717469328
They did, in the long run, yeah. Remains to be seen if they'll have won outside the bounds of Trump's second term. Perhaps its most interesting effect is other right-wing leaders around the world being emboldened to try their own coups like in South Korea and Bolivia, all of which have gotten completely shut down and the offending heads-of-state arrested. I want to say it emboldened Shinzo Abe over in Japan, but he got blasted in broad daylight whether he was influenced or not. Ended up being a really good move for Japan too!

Reminder that America could easily build a semiconductor chip, but the Dutch chose not to build one here because niggers would ruin it. It was much more feasible to instruct the Taiwan people to do it.

Where's the new thread?
BAKE FAGGOTS THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO POST IN OFF-TOPIC THREADS ON /v/

>>717469394
what kind of retard goes to a cartoon hobby board and cries about there being cartoon lovers there? yes anime is still cartoons

>too scared to reply to a facists
That's right. I would bomb your people with nuclear weapons made with Chinese semi-conductors from our Lunar base with a robotic Hilter that's allied himself with Martian partisans.

>>717469436
The Jew fears the Dutchman

>>717461827
I fucking hope so.

>>717469328
>coup
I'm convinced they only say this because for once the protestors went to the politicians themselves. You see them yawning and relaxing when it's local shops and businesses getting destroyed and looted but if you inconvenience one of your masters even slightly then suddenly it's the worst attack on america ever

Same shit happened with that CHAZ thing, an armed occupation with multiple deaths goes on for weeks and the mayor openly supports it. Those same people then go to the mayor's house really early one morning and make a bunch of noise, suddenly they have to SHUT IT DOWN boys and the cops go in in force

>>717466906
tsmc is literally building fabs right now as a result of the chips act

>>717469540
Yup, it was one of the worst "coups" ever, but they won at the end anyway.

>>717469576
They started during Trump's first term.

>>717469540
Nah it was called a coup because Trump was sitting in his cuck chair watching from binoculars as the greasy rednecks he ordered to storm the building were let in by DCPD.

>>717469638
>greasy rednecks
They won.

>>717469540

>>717469638
Wrong. According to experts, Trump was wrestling with the secret service agent driving the Beast and fighting him off to get himself to his people on the ground. He was only stopped because SS stopped him by force.

>>717469540
>Same shit happened with that CHAZ thing, an armed occupation with multiple deaths goes on for weeks and the mayor openly supports it. Those same people then go to the mayor's house really early one morning and make a bunch of noise, suddenly they have to SHUT IT DOWN boys and the cops go in in force
It was funny how fast they shut it down, once they went after the Mayor's house. The Mayor would have probably let it go for a few more months, or until election day, if they didn't go after the Mayor's house.

Run away, did you? All of you, COWARDS. Come back here and FIGHT!

>>717467343
Rad, only 7 years to go

>>717469635
https://www.tsmc.com/static/abouttsmcaz/index.htm

>>717469158
You're indian.

>>717469814
That's what we said about Trump 7 years ago.

>>717469540
>I'm convinced they only say this because for once the protestors went to the politicians themselves
it turns out when you try to overthrow your local government instead of your local walgreens that that is the dictionary definition of a coup attempt, in the same way that a random darkie in the hood getting shot is not called an assassination

>>717469716
exactly what I was thinking of

>>717469856
>In 2020, TSMC chose Phoenix, Arizona, for its first advanced U.S. semiconductor manufacturing site

>>717469882
Stealing nancy pelosi's ice cream after capitol security lead you into the building is not a coup

>>717469882
Yup. If a black guy ever gets shot by a cop, and civil unrest happens, just go after random stores if you want free shit. Leave the politicians alone, and you can loot all the free shit that you want.

>>717460865
>just gotta wait until these companies invest billions of dollars
>and build infrastructure that would take literal decades to complete
>and reform all their global supply chains
>and hire staff with competencies that either don't exist in the US or cost 10x more than their current location
Just 2 more weeks, amirite

>>717469882
This
NO ONE should harass their elected officials. If you want to protest properly you need to make your neighbour miserable, that's how you get change to happen.

>>717469856
>Arizona
lmao
the cost of temperature control alone is going to be passed onto the customer

>>717470028
>never build anything because building takes time and I might not get to enjoy it much myself
African logic

>>717470028
>it'll never happen
>it'll never happen soon
>it's bad if it happens slowly
>it happened but it turned out it wasn't worth it
>it's still happening but things would've been better if Communism was in charge
>humanity was better before fire was invented

>>717469948
>november 2024
>the us department of commerce awarded tsmc up to 6.6 billion dollars in direct funding under the chips act
>march 2025
>tsmc announces investment of an additional 100 billion in the us state of arizona to support three additional advanced fabs, two advanced packaging facilities, and an r&d team centre

>>717470010
>>717470016
>>717470070
concession accepted

>>717470070
SHOW THOSE FOOT LOCKERS WHO'S BOSS!

>>717470078
Do you think it was selected arbitrarily? These are some of the smartest people alive.

>>717470028
>that would take literal decades to complete
lol this aint the 80's

>>717470131
>In 2020, TSMC chose Phoenix, Arizona, for its first advanced U.S. semiconductor manufacturing site

>>717470078

>>717470131
Do you not know what the word "started" means

>>717470150
Against my better judgement you have convinced me you are retarded, I concede to you oh low iq one

>>717470078
I don't think you know much about HVAC systems.

>>717470185
>in 2020 they chose to build a fab in arizona
>they then got a bunch of funding
>they then chose to build a bunch more fabs
hope that clears things up for you anon!

>>717470150
I don't know what I conceded to?

>>717470094
More like
>don't start building something with a 10+ year completion timeline based on legislation that will get repealed in 3

>>717470175
>lol this aint the 80's
Yeah, it would probably get finished faster back then. TSMC announced their Arizona plant back in 2020 and I don't think they even broke ground yet (it's been 5 years, btw).

>>717470224
do you think they started fabs that they hadn't even announced in 2020?

>>717469930
For me it's the one about Admiral Cousinfucker wanting to become a politician

Are Americans just unironically all retarded now?

>>717470276
>in 2020 they chose to build a fab in arizona
Correct. In 2020. Which was during which President's first term...?

>>717470414
>now

>>717470414
>now
American spotted.

Why are there so many retarded trump dicksuckers on /v/? Is this a raid?

>>717470424
instead of answering that question, i'll instead refer you to my first post
>tsmc is literally building fabs right now as a result of the chips act
feel free to run around in more little circles

>>717470414
Pretty much, with the occasional thirdie or vatnigger jumping in. Not to sway a narrative but because they're chimping out as well

>>717470519
>didn't call Trump "Drumpf" and didn't point out he's a nazi.
You sound like you like Trump a bit too much.

>>717470545
They started under Trump's first term.

>>717470335
>I don't think they even broke ground yet
this is the site THREE YEARS ago, retard
they have done more than break ground.

So, this is something most of you won't know, regardless of being retarded or not, but when a big company does a big and important construction job, they are, beyond certain carefully controlled press releases, QUIET about it.
Microsoft is one of the most anal I know of, to use as an example.
They tore down 20-year-old buildings at the heart of their redmond campus, and have been rebuilding the section for a long time, putting in a 4 story 27 acre (per floor) parking garage with 3 sports fields on top, the largest geothermal electric plant west of the Mississippi river, and like 20 or so office buildings.
They have a set of AI set to comb places like facebook, instagram, and twitter (among other places) to catch unauthorized photos of any part of the site, which is about 72 acres in size, at ALL times.
For a while they had at least one drone flying around and watching the construction workers as well.

>>717470654
i know this is a hard concept for you to understand, but you're simply incorrect because trumps first term did not extend past january 2021

>>717470581
>Sengoku Jidai : Burger Edition with corpos becoming the clans of the techno feudalistic hellscape

>>717470859
Which happens first? 2020 or 2021?

>>717470913
>>717470276
hope that helps anon!

>>717471203
Trump did it first.

>>717460865
Yeah let's give them 5 minutes to set up that semiconductor industry in the US and all prices will go back to normal. No worries

>>717470859
look buddy, THIS picture >>717470778
from 2022 is more than a years worth of work.
it started in 2020.

>>717471224
k
and i'll go ahead and refer you back to my first post >>717469576

>>717471261
If you can afford $1000 GPUs, you deserve to be taxed.

>>717471287
>november 2024
>the us department of commerce awarded tsmc up to 6.6 billion dollars in direct funding under the chips act
>march 2025
>tsmc announces investment of an additional 100 billion in the us state of arizona to support three additional advanced fabs, two advanced packaging facilities, and an r&d team centre

>>717471298
In 2020, under Trump's first term.

>>717471373
>november 2024
>the us department of commerce awarded tsmc up to 6.6 billion dollars in direct funding under the chips act
>march 2025
>tsmc announces investment of an additional 100 billion in the us state of arizona to support three additional advanced fabs, two advanced packaging facilities, and an r&d team centre

>>717471363
>>717471429
2020, Trump 45

>>717471452
ah yes, of course, he travelled through time into the future, and then instituted the chips act while wearing bidens skin, and then got them to make a decision in 2024 all from 2020

>>717471515
Nah, but it started in 2020 under Trump 1.0.

>>717471363
>b-b-b-but 2024 they-
the picture is from 2022, idiot.
this is the TMC building site in 2022.
they were at one point hoping it would be operational in 2024, but anyone who has worked on big shit like that would have laughed at that number.

>>717471429
>all this while the surplus population continues to fall down the path towards generational poverty
Grim

>>717471530
ah yes of course, the plans that they made in response to the chips act, then instituted following funding received from the dept of commerce, were all actually done before any of that

>>717471651
Started in 2020.

>>717471673
k, you're just living in an alternate reality when 2024 is actually 2020, feel free to continue being hilariously wrong

>>717471705
2020 was right in that webpage.