With heavy debloating and installing winaerotweaker + open shell. Its actually good.

>>717462237 (OP)
Why do all that when you could just hop onto a linux distro?

>With heavy debloating and installing winaerotweaker + open shell. Its actually good.

just use 10 IoT LTSC

>>717462237 (OP)
>recommending russian made tools

I just use https://github.com/hellzerg/optimizer

>>717462635
I was thinking about this but if Nvidia is going to stop updating windows 10 drivers, what's the point? Also apparently there's some other drawbacks of IoT

>>717462237 (OP)
>heavy debloating
how heavy?
I tried running some debloating script on it after the installation and still whenever I on rare occasions reboot to it from Linux I have a feeling like it wants to rape my laptop's hardware

>>717462237 (OP)
If you're going to tinkertranny your OS, you may as well use Linux.

>>717462474
because it's better than any linux distro?

>>717462998
But you have to debloat it that much, so I guess its not

>>717463267
>if you have to cover a hotdog in ketchup and mustard, it must not be good!

>>717462768
they won't and there's not

>>717464020
>food analogy
If you are unable to articulate why then it must not be that good...

>>717464020
Isn't adding mustard and ketchup just adding bloat not removing it?

serious question what happened to the "debloated 11" for the asus rog xbox ally console or whatever the fuck it is. How is it different to W11 LTSC?

>>717463267
Just as you have to bloat Linux because it literally have fucking nothing.

We are not going to talk about the fact that not all games support it though.

>>717464231
it is basically just linux ricing
debloating windows is more like cancer surgery

>>717464335
Came to ask this.

>>717462237 (OP)
wintards are entering the second stage

>>717464075
they arent going to continue supporting a dead platform anon, no matter how much you cope

>>717464194
Are you sub saharan african who doesn't understand food?
>>717464231
It's modifying the hotdog so it tastes different.

>>717462237 (OP)
>shutup 10
let me guess, you need more?

>>717464430
My loonix comes with everything I need and more. I'm not some dumb archnigger who only uses his pc for gay neofetch clout.

>>717465063
Are you a dysgenic, low IQ anon who can't answer the question because he's functionally illiterate and can only spout memes and regurgitate others posts?

>>717465063
stupid jeet
Windows 11 itself, the processes needed for it to run, are cancer. It is impossible to properly debloat. It can't be done.

>>717462998

>>717462237 (OP)
Sorry, I'm sticking to 10 IoT LTSC 2021 until 2032. Then I'm off to Linux. Hopefully Linux gaming will be good by then.

Personally, I prefer MacOS :)

>>717465384
weren't they using Ubuntu in this anime or do I remember it wrong?

>>717465507
any unix-based OS is still miles better than windows so you are cool
sucks that you can't play games though

>>717462237 (OP)
guide on this?

indians love macOS these days

>>717465547
>mpv
For me, it's MPC-HC.

>>717465547
Yeah that's what you'll usually find in university computers.

>>717464020
>Food analogy

>>717464995
Debloating is bargaining (seeking impossible solutions)

>>717462237 (OP)
For me its Start11 and then clean group policy and settings/control panel by hand and set stuff way i want. Then throw in registry key to enable full explorer rightclick menu and done.

>>717462237 (OP)
agreed, its all thanks to this >>717462615
filthy jeet, he made windows 11 shitty and brittle, and now its easy to rerice unlike windows 10 which has to be the worst thing to rice i've ever had the misfortune of trying on.

>>717462237 (OP)
That will then break the next time it updates without your consent and reinstalls everything.

>>717466971
people who do that don't update their windows

>>717462834
>download enterprise or LTSC iso
>install
>activate with a volume server
>done
Wow. Much debloating needed.

>>717467152
Did you read “without your consent”?
MS will push updates whether you want it or not. It is not your computer, it is Microsoft’s

>>717465374
Did you get your knowledge from an indian diploma farm?

>>717467156
I am not enterprise
I just updated my windows 10 that was pre-installed on my pc to windows 11 because it was supposed to just work
If I am installing new OS anyway I might as well just install Linux (and so I did just that)

why is microsoft so against my machine doing what I tell it to and only that?

>>717467426
>Did you read “without your consent”?
If you gut windows that heavy you probably can also disable the updates somehow
At least that was my assumption

>>717468189
US companies are used to raping their consumers' butts as long as it makes their shareholders happy

Look up ghost specter 11 superlite SE
You are welcome

>>717464335
>>717464817
yeah does anyone know?

>>717462474
linux shit never works

>>717462237 (OP)
I run stock and it's fine.

>>717467890
If you want to live with Linux as your daily driver, good for you. I already see too much of that shit at work and I'd rather not have to deal with it on my gaymen PC.

>>717468537
Linux daily driver for 15 years, no problems yet.

>>717462237 (OP)
How do you do all of that? I need a retard proof guide.

A good OS should not require heavy debloating and installing winaerotweaker + open shell.

>>717462237 (OP)
Open Shell apparently restores the classic style of windows search bar. Why would someone on 11 want to do that exactly?

>>717469270
Good thing Windows 11 doesn't.

How true is it that if you don't activate Windows 11 you stop getting security updates?
No, I am not going to run some Russian script to activate it, I only keep this Windows installation because of the one game I can't run properly on Ubuntu.

This question kinda unrelated but I don’t know where else to ask. I apologize for phoneposting. What’s a good proxy service for shitposting on 4chan? What would you recommend? I like the idea of 4chan(dot)gday but I don’t feel comfortable using it. Too many bad actors using it to share “you know what”. I don’t want anything to do with that shit. I just want to shitpost. If there’s no other alternative and I end up having to use it, is it safe to use? As long as I don’t personally use gday for illegal activity I should be fine, right? For example, if the website gets in trouble later down the line, I won’t have the police at my door?

>>717469342
Pretty sure the only consequence of not activating is some settings being locked and the annoying watermark. But just use massgrave.

>>717468189
Because then that means they can't collect data on you to sell?

Just post a list of all the things and tools I will have to do later this year when I install W11 on my PC.

>>717469617
I never really understood this argument because they could make the OS good and still harvest my data.
how does them hiding the real right click menu help them harvest data?
I think they're incompetent and letting out of touch old women dictate the UI because it doesn't have to be good because there's no alternative.

video games?

>>717469159
I'd love to meet one of you people irl sometime, because I've worked in places that use Linux and there was random shit breaking all the time, we had these fancy ultrabooks running ubuntu.
>guys ethernet + wifi stops working, after a day of diagnosing and nothing working, it worked the next day.
>resolution suddenly 800x600 and cannot change, update all drivers - still fucked, downgrade all drivers - still fucked, reinstall OS - fixed.
>this one laptop will not connect via USB to anything and never has.
>guy does the "rm -rf all things" and leaves it on another dudes terminal as a joke, he presses enter and wipes it.
and so on, they ended up phasing in macbooks which was had basically the same dev experience but nothing broke.

>>717471130
ah yes, I am sure this is a real thing that happened.

>>717470949
its coming soon, I haven't researched where to go at all and I'm freaking the fuck as the deadline approaches
I've had win10 on my home/work computers for almost a decade
I hate change
I tried win11 on a laptop, no idea why everything needs to be slightly different but it pisses me the fuck off

>>717471209
it would take you 10 seconds on google to find countless examples that mirror mine, and a handful of disingenuous assholes pretending they've never had to fix Linux lol.
>works on my machine
is literally a joke made of you people because the collective user base knows you're full of shit.

>>717471419
OK buddy

>>717471419
Linux has its own quirks but learning new things there feels rewarding, it is just way more logical and intuitive

My experience on windows on the other hand was usually the following:
ok, so this update gives you some cryptic error and google gives you no answers outside of some microsoft forums without any real answers?
No worries, just delete some dll files in your system32 folder as recommended by some indian guy on youtube, run some ancient cmd-based scanning util and then suddenly it starts working again

>>717471219
>freaking the fuck
Why? It's not like microsoft will send a death squad to your house for continuing to use 10. Keep using it while trying out 11 (or linux) on your laptop or another PC if you have one.

>>717462237 (OP)
No its absolutely isn't.
Either ltsc 10 or linux.

>>717471726
>Linux has its own quirks but learning new things there feels rewarding
bash is a fucking insane language (tbf so are batch/powershell) and yet I'm actually enjoying writing scripts, supplemented with python here and there

>>717471219
Install linux mint

>>717472023
>bash is a fucking insane language
I mostly just use python for scripting
It is just way easier to write and verify if its correct
ChatGPT basically writes it for you

>>717471726
>it is just way more logical and intuitive
I'm with you there, I'm only on windows because of the random breaks and some software I use, I much prefer using Linux because I tell it exactly what I want done and it does it or tells me why not.
but with all the shit I dealt with at that job, and personally the times an update to gnome breaks because some contributor was too poor to test on more than his config, I cbf tinkering with it anymore.

im hoping for mass adoption with steamOS so that there's someone with money/influence at the helm, so that it gets the support (internally and externally) it needs.

>>717462237 (OP)
>le debloat scripts
just use LTSC

>>717462768
>>717465062
perhaps win 11 ltsc might be an option

>>717462237 (OP)
you need a heavy debloating
bounce and moan on it

>>717472414
>LTSC
Just use stock Pro for Workstations.

>>717471219
Calm down. It's not the end of the world. You wont lose your computer to a russian botnet the second October 14 rolls around. You've got plenty of time.

>>717472731
Does he know?

>>717472750
Know what?

>>717471219
in enterprise/business win10 should be fine with the esr updates (assuming your business wont migrate to 11 etc)

>>717471219
>>717472731
nyehehehe... yes tovarich, there is no reason to rush da.
Just stay on Windows 10, it will be perfectly safe...

>>717472750
Brother, he's still out here thinking the patches actually stop nation-state malware and not just pretend to plug leaks two months after the holes got exploited in the wild. Man’s riding into a cyberpunk hellscape on Windows 10 thinking Defender’s gonna save him.

>>717472847
>assuming your business wont migrate to 11
its a small company and they expect me to handle it

For me it's RetroBar.

>>717471130
why lie, anon?

I moved to Arch Linux last year and I still think Windows 11 Pro is better, especially for gaming. Desktop Linux is "good enough", but Windows 11 looks nice, has loads of developer features, software just works, and its fast.
I have never heard any actual arguments for with 11 pro is bad that cannot be summarised as failture to administrate a network or tech illiteracy.

>>717473306
I think it's actually possible all those things happened.
Ten years ago
And then, just like almost all Linux haters, he will parrot it endlessly as if it was still true today.

LTSC is just cope, they're still fucking you. I game on arch linux cause all my shit works fine and i want to own my machine, not microsoft, simple as.

Can linux run any 90s/2000s era PC CD/DVD games?

>>717462237 (OP)
>with tinkering its actually good

>>717473725
Yeah it runs 100% of them completely flawless you retard.

>>717473725
proton runs pretty much anything retro

>>717473725
oddly enough, ive run retro shit in proton flawlessly and had issues on windows 10/11 with the same games, and im a wintard

Windows 11 is getting theme support soon so you can customize the UI

>>717473725
runs them better than windows

>>717464335
>>717464817
>>717468465
It's not out yet.

I ntlited the shit out of the education edition and block updates through my firewall and 11 has been perfectly fine. There's no reason to stick with Windows 10 anymore.

>>717472414
Can I downgrade from Windows 11 to ltsc?

>>717462237 (OP)
it's time to embrace linux.

>>717468463
its crazy that anon posted this like half way down the thread and no one replied to it when it solves like 95% of the issues with windows 11

>>717464020
If the hot dog tasted bad, not just bland but actually bad, before you added condiments, then yes the hot dog was bad. Condiments should enhance and compliment flavor, not cover it up.

>>717468463
>>717474812
>yes bro, just install this totally safe, trustworthy modified Windows iso
>what could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Yeah...
No

>>717474812
Why would you use some shitty jeet mod when you can just use LTSC which does the same thing and is actually official?

>>717468189
Sir please do the listening, we know much more about the computers than you do, we are of professional computer users. Please doing what we tell you, you will break the device if you do what you want to do.

>>717462237 (OP)
LOL I haven't used Jeetdows in years. Don't miss it, don't need it.
Poor sheep... nShita, iSheep, Tendies, and Jeetdows shills.
If we could wipe all of you off the face the earth.... damn we'd be in paradise

>>717475079
You must be 18 to post on this website

>>717474961
>LTSC
>still has telemetry
>still has TPM
>windows still prevents you from doing anything they dont want on your machine
>bro why dont you trust microsoft?!?!?

Lots of /pol/ invaders in this thread that need lessoning. Making fun of Indians has become old. Has for a long time. I find it crazy how your people colonized us and stole recourses, only for us now to become the #2 in the entire world and soon we will take over your entire country and economy. Hahahahaha I find that more funny..

>>717475098
>Android Phone
Because I like being able to customize and have total control over my device
>Linux
Because I can game just fine and don't care about anti-cheat spyware AAA slop and I like to have total control over my system without being spied on
>PC
Because I like gaming, emulating, using mods, pirating, and watching big ass Latina porn
>AMD
Because I'm not a moron to spend $3000 on a shit card because I feel for the muh AI meme
Besides having a low IQ and being an NPC with no self-awareness, what's your excuse?

>>717475386
>he do not think like a brilliant
benchod

>>717475413
I am not mocking you for whatever you use, I am mocking you for using the "sheeple" shtick
Completely unironically, as far as I can see.
"nShita" and that whole list is also embarrassingly bad.

>>717475187
>>still has telemetry
Only the "required" telemetry which is barely anything. Can be fully disabled in Group Policy.
>>still has TPM
It doesn't. LTSC has all those requirements removed.
>>windows still prevents you from doing anything they dont want on your machine
??

if you have to debloat and detelemetry on every security update, it's bad

>>717476126
Windows XP was the last decent Windows. Everything after is utter dogshit

>>717462237 (OP)
debloating is a myth
microsoft just turns it all back on with an update
the spyware and embedded ads are out of control and there's nothing you can do about it because of TPM

>>717473760
That's linux.

>>717476498
but this is a thread about Windows

>>717475386
>Hahahahaha
you have a kind of desperation in your laugh. do not redeem the seethe and cope

>>717462474
>have to open up virtual machine to use Windows software for work
>have to emulate nearly all vidya
>Nvidia drivers are shit, but AMD GPUs are dogshit for anything that's not gaming
Linux still is far inferior to Windows. The only way it could not be, and this would be an extremely miraculous occurrence, would be if Windows truly became so cataclysmically dogshit so as to become completely unusable and actual big companies worked together to make a serious Linux distro and port all their Windows-only software there. But this miracle would be far off in the future.

>>717476990
>>have to open up virtual machine to use Windows software for work
your company gives you a shitty laptop for this
>>have to emulate nearly all vidya
this "emulate" works pretty well these days
>>Nvidia drivers are shit, but AMD GPUs are dogshit for anything that's not gaming
old myth, though Nvidia mostly only focuses on their newer cards
you just want one that's good at Vulkan
AMD can do AI sloppa just fine, rocm/zluda/etc. have done a lot for compatibility

>>717462237 (OP)
why should the CIA backdoor concern any of you?

>>717477084
You're talking to an NPC, if you want a response, just ask it which iPhone it's using

So just how bad are the privacy issues on W11? How much of it is hearsay and how much has actually been confirmed?

>>717479427
if you ever run a pihole instance you'll see how often a single unused windows device phones home by default for random shit

Microsoft just needs to give us windows 7 with an updated kernel and modern hardware compatibility.

>>717462237 (OP)
>install w11
>install and use w10privacy
living the dream