About to play this for the first time, should i play the new "enhanced" editions that came out recently or will it rob me of the originally intended sovl? also ive heard that i should play on master difficulty even though its first time because the damage is busted on the other difficulties, what am i in for?

>>717464870 (OP)
I only played OGs but i heard that they removed commie references and that new textures kinda look like a shit (Just read the revs) i would honestly just rec to get og games and use some qol mods that they have.

>>717464870 (OP)
Enhanced editions suck because of history revisionism, fuck GSC and fuck Ukr*ine pigs

>>717464870 (OP)
>what am i in for
you can try it yourself just know you're falling for an old meme. stalker is a shooting game with bad shooting mechanics, it's not very good

>>717464870 (OP)
>About to play this for the first time, should i play the new "enhanced" editions that came out recently or will it rob me of the originally intended sovl?
despite what chuds will say no, it really won't
it's the same game, people kvetching about random posters are honestly unhinged
if it's a problem for you just play the original version with Zone Reclamation Project mod (it's a bugfix but it's not really needed since the steam version runs just fine out of the box)
I even would assume that maybe there's a mod that restores the cut content from the enhanced edition

yep got one
>>717465413
see how it's immediately all about modern world politics and random uncontrolled unprovoked seething? I'm not sure why someone would follow the advice from a person like that but you do you

>>717465413
>fuck GSC and fuck Ukr*ine pigs
dude... you're gonna be on the wrong side of history

>>717464870 (OP)
Stalker is a shooting game where the shooting sucks and you'll be spending 70% of your time looking dead bodies.

>>717464870 (OP)
use mods bro the game aged horribly, weapons/combat ultra janky and visually extremely outdated.
dont let some cranky boomers tell you otherwise

>>717465794
thanks, i did watch a couple videos about the enhanced edition and it seems like the same game with an HD update, sometimes remasters go too far and destroy the atmosphere with bad lighting and things like that. only worry with the enhanced editions is performance i guess, on which the community seems divided some say its better and some say much worse. may try out QoL mod as u suggest, just kinda hate to do a first play through on a game with mods

play SoC v 1.0006 with ZRP. use and abuse explosives.

>>717466179
this, put this game's gameplay side by side with the recent doom game and it's fucking night and day. maybe mods make it better but it's hard to believe

>>717466296
well it's an old game
many 7th gen games either won't work (see fallout 3) without mods and fixes or the game itself run poorly for some reason
welcome to PC gaming I guess, it's cool to fix the game and make it playable, not so cool when you just want to play the game instead of messing with the game

>>717466465
>many 7th gen games either won't work (see fallout 3) without mods and fixes or the game itself run poorly for some reason
kind of insane how many shit remasters have been put out when all that most people want is resolution upscale, performance increase, bug fixes and actually being able to load the game lol

>>717464870 (OP)
>should i play the new "enhanced" editions
NO.
Those things fucked up a shitton of things.
They run worse, look worse, CENSOR any and all CCCP / Russia related environmental assets + Russian dub, and have super restrictive modding rules and capabilities.

Grab the OG SoC from the net (pirate if you must). You only need the latest patch for a smooth experience (1.0004 is enough).
If you're still unsure, grab the "Starter Pack" mods for a vanilla+ experience. Namely the Zone Reclamation Project.

Here's the oldie but goodie STALKAN' newbie guide pic to get you started.

>>717466296
>>717466465
SoC-CoP work perfectly fine, even without mods. They are DX9-11 era games, ffs.

Can't comment about possible Wee11 issues, because I ain't touching that shit with a 100-foot pole.

>>717467127
thanks man big help, appreciate you

>>717464870 (OP)
>should i play the new "enhanced" editions
Play the OG games and as close to vanilla as possible. In other words listen to >>717467127. Feel free to consult the STALKER General on /vg/ if you're stuck or need input. Also, don't get discouraged by the inaccurate starting weapons. Once you get your hands on an AKM-74/2U everything falls into place. Just be patient, open-minded and willing to learn.

>>717467127
>CENSOR any and all CCCP / Russia related environmental assets
the horrors!!!

>>717467410
NP broski!
Always happy to see new meat step into the Zone (and NOT start with some massive mega-mod for once, such as Gamma / Anomaly).
Used to be a time when /v/ was filled with nonstop Stalker generals.

Good hunting, Stalker!

Even I can fucking shoot straighter than the protagonist in stalker, I can't believe shit like this passed for a shooting game once upon a time

>>717464870 (OP)
>About to play this for the first time, should i play the new "enhanced" editions that came out recently or will it rob me of the originally intended sovl?
No, they will.
Play the original game with the ZRP patch.
>also ive heard that i should play on master difficulty even though its first time because the damage is busted on the other difficulties
Complete horseshit and one of the most long-standing myths from the English speaking community of STALKER.
Difficulty doesn't change enemy HP or bullet penetration, it's a bit complex but you can easily play the game on novice or master, depending on your general feeling with the game.
You can swap difficulty at any time, and as someone that has played the game a hundred times over I recommend playing on Veteran, since a lot of stuff will oneshot you on Master and frustrate you to no end, unless you absolutely love to quicksave every 10 meters.
>what am i in for?
Pure slav jank that quickly becomes on of the most atmospheric survival horror games ever made.
At the cost of being called a royal faggot nigger by everyone itt, play the trilogy if you want but if you can't manage, don't feel bad about it and look for the modernized versions of the game, which may or may not be your jam since most of them are super-hardcore modpacks that on top of having cool graphix and polish, they're meant for veterans of the franchise and milsim larping faggots (like me).
Pic related, probably the most famous (and hated) one.

>>717464870 (OP)
>should i play the new "enhanced" editions that came out recently
no, they're a broken mess.
play the original with the ZRP patch and all will be well.

>>717467579
>remove entire buildings and iconic set pieces, killing the franchise's alt.history identity
Yeah, it's indeed a fucking travesty.

>>717467645
literal skill issue.

>>717467127
You're doing the lord's work mate. In a sea of Tranomaly/GAMMAfags and ADHD-brained Zoomers, this guide is the island saving Rookies from drowning in slop.

>>717467702
that lion and a lot of the murals you see in STALKER can still be found at playgrounds and on some apartment buildings in Ukraine today.
I'm all for TZD but censoring anything Russian/Soviet in a game set in Pripyat is just delusional.

>>717467810
>analmeme bad!!!!!!!!!!!
>gaymma bad!!!!!!!!!
get on with the times, granpa
no one cares anymore, we're all busy dogpiling stalker 2

>>717467787
>shot the second guy in the head
>it either didn't register or he just tanked it
thanks for proving my point

>>717464870 (OP)
Just play anomaly

>>717467889
the ironsights are misaligned

>>717467961
>it's not bad in this way it's actually bad in another way
amazing

>>717467889
The shot MISSED completely,
because the game has both pseudo-realistic BULLET PHYSICS,
and the good oldschool CONE OF FIRE.

The BULLETS themselves are actually tiny, with all NPCs (and player) having very precise hit detection, meaning you can indeed miss by a single millimeter.

...Or to put it into zoomer-friendly way:

Guns are NEVER laser accurate in STALKER, not even when you ADS, and you MUST learn each weapon's + AMMO TYPE'S behavior in order to get the most out of them.

Also, (You) have never handled a real firearm before, buster.

>>717468161
Doesn't SoC have an extra mechanic where aiming for about a second between shots increases accuracy further?

>>717468161
so the game has unsatisfying shooting mechanics where the player being accurate isn't rewarded and you think this is a good thing?

>>717468269
I like it :)

>>717468254
That's literally every game made after Half-Life.

>>717468269
Incorrect.
STALKER has stellar gunplay, with plenty of character between early / low-end weapons and late / hi-end gear, creating a superb pseudo-RPG-like progression that is tied to the equipment, not some artificial roadblocks like story beats or levels.

Mastering the bullet drop and nailing headshots at hundreds of meters feels super satisfying, and just like we already established 18 years ago on /v/, anyone crying about "inaccurate" weapons in STALKER never beat the Bandit camp at the very start of the game.
Thus, their opinion belongs in the bin.

>>717467702
nigga if someone listens to you it's like they replaced all the assets when it turns out to be... a lion (in call of pripyat, not even the same game) and the CoP CNPP sign (nobody cares)

>>717468254
Yeah, time_to_aim.
Accuracy and damage greatly decrease the more you shoot in a given timeline.
It's so fucking funny, because it's the whole reason people thought playing on master made the game easier, because they're just very careful and going for paced headshots.
https://www.metacognix.com/stlkrsoc/WhatYouKnowThatAintSo.html#Guns

>>717464870 (OP)
Play vanilla, latest patch on master. Anyone telling you that you need mods is wrong. Anyone saying that you do more damage on master is wrong. Anyone getting mad that you play on master screaming about how "ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN DEBOOONKED BECAUSE REDDIT!" is a massive cocksucking faggot. Master is just more fun.

>>717468525
>LAAA LAAA CANNOT HEAR UUU!! :^)
Not an argument, vatnigger.

EVERY single poster, sign, icon, hell even some VEHICLES have been taken away, just to appeal to some stupid grift law.
Even the "AHNUU CHEEKI BREEKI STALKER!" line is gone now.

And again, this is still one of the lesser issues of these terrible de-masters.

Only thing you need is Vanilla+ZRP. Maybe atmosfear or enhanced textures if you really want to

>>717468524
>anyone crying about "inaccurate" weapons in STALKER never beat the Bandit camp at the very start of the game
nah i got 3/4ths through the game before i got bored and quit, the most optimal strategy was rushing enemies down and blasting them in the face, the game spams you with so many bandages taking damage is never an issue, and yes i was playing on master
the only good thing about this game is the ai and atmosphere, you've gaslit yourself into thinking the shooting is good because you like the other aspects of the game

>>717468810
>i got bored and quit
As expected from an ADHD iPhone poster...

>rushing enemies and blasting them in face
Also a Cowadooteh homo. Impressive.

>Y-you've gaslit urself!!!!
You also sound like a 2010s' woman, Jesus Christ.

STALKER was the last GREAT First-person shooter. Deal with it, lncel.

>>717468810
>the most optimal strategy was rushing enemies down and blasting them in the face,
It is absolutely not. The best way is to find cover, take a knee, aim, and shoot them in the head. Then disappear behind cover and break line of sight before other guys light you up.

>>717468810
>i did a retard "strategy" i found boring and call it optimal
lol
lmao

>>717464870 (OP)
EE runs like shit, politics aside. I could only really advocate for playing Call of Pripyat since the shaders and lighting in the original are very dull, but you could always get a weather mod to solve that
>da choodz!
>da ukrtrannies!

>>717469047
maybe the game should've punished my retard strategy instead of rewarding it and showering me with hundreds of healing items
wait... that's what we call dogshit game design

you will play the version 1.0 without any patches or ZRP

>>717469138
maybe you should stop making shit up to salvage your ego

>>717469186
oh so you think you can't rush around like a chicken like your head cut off in stalker? lmao. get some decent gear and you barely take damage, you got tricked into playing slow and methodical out of fear of dying when you weren't in any real danger at all

>>717469274
NTA, but no - you literally cannot.
If you did, you simply used a cheat engine.

>>717465413
baZed

>>717469274
keep making shit up m8

>>717469330
you absolutely can. try it for yourself. take too much damage just tap x and use one of your thousands of bandages. works much better than relying on the "intentionally super realistic aiming system" at long range

>>717469274
you watch too much life of boris

>>717469636
>take too much damage just tap x
No, silly tranny.
Typically, unless you indeed cheated your stats, most end-game enemies can 1-2 shot you with their firearms, leaving you NO chance to heal.
Similarly, the environmental hazards + the higher tier mutants can sap your HP and other stats in a few seconds.

>use one of your thousands of bandages
So you also cheated the Weight limit away.
It all makes sense now.

what a bunch of fags itt

>>717464870 (OP)
The biggest problem with SoC is that there is not ENOUGH content but that is because GSC technically didn't finish it. There needs to be more anomalies, more artefacts, more enemies, more bunkers, more radiation, more stealth, more dialogue, more psyfields. Maybe gambling.
CNPP is the biggest map in the game and you only explore like 5% of it.
But it's a good game

>>717469861
>most end-game enemies can 1-2 shot you with their firearms
then maybe i didn't get to the endgame, never said i did either. i'm sure i at least made it to the half way point
the only time i had to actually play slow was the very start when you had shit armor. otherwise i was rushing from cover to cover to close the distance on enemies and shooting them directly in the face
>So you also cheated the Weight limit away
yeah i don't know how to do that

>>717466179
>Just make it easier bruh be a casual like myself so I don't feel bad

>>717464870 (OP)
Play Memories of The Zone mod for SoC
Play ABR CS mod for Clear Sky
Call of Pripyat is good vanilla, just change the fov

>>717470141
>"spam X"
I think I know how you did it, little mobileshitposting consoleboy. ;)

>>717470141
If you were tanking damage with armor and constantly getting shot and healing, then your armor would be destroyed beyond effectiveness after a couple of firefights. You story doesn't make sense.

>>717470141
>the most optimal strategy was rushing enemies down and blasting them in the face
>i was rushing from cover to cover to close the distance on enemies
changing your story?

>>717470287
Terrible advice.

>>717470306
why am i a mobileposter exactly? phones have auto capitalization by default, are you just telling yourself that so you have something negative to say about me, even if you just completely fabricated it in your mind?
and maybe the button wasn't x, you can rebind your keys though, you'd know that if you played it
>>717470457
the goal is not to get hit, there just isn't a big penalty if you do
>>717470489
yeah running from cover to cover to close the distance is still rushing, don't know what point you're making. point is i wasn't doing what this guy said >>717469008

>>717470660
>yeah running from cover to cover to close the distance is still rushing
no its not but i believe you anon

>>717470660
>why am i a mobileposter exactly?
I won't tell you, little nufag. ;)
Lurk moar, and get your story straight.

>>717470731
rushing means to act quickly, so running from cover to cover is by definition rushing

>>717470994
rushing enemies down does not imply running cover to cover with how you set up your shit story with spamming bandages retard

>>717471068
>rushing enemies down does not imply running cover to cover
if you are moving towards your enemies in a quick manner, then yes it's rushing enemies down
>spamming bandages
yes because sometimes there are too many enemies and you might get overwhelmed and need to use bandages, i understand you need to cling to any inconsistency you think you may have perceived though because what i said makes more sense than what you initially thought

>>717470660
>the goal is not to get hit, there just isn't a big penalty if you do
Your story makes less and less sense. You switched from "Hits don't matter" to "Just don't get hit". I think you're backpedaling because I called you out.

>>717471554
>You switched from "Hits don't matter"
so you're just making up shit, sweet. why not quote me directly if you're so confident in your argument?
i said taking damage isn't an issue, which it isn't because you can just bandage yourself up. that doesn't mean taking damage is ideal, no one ever wants to take damage in a game, even in fucking baby shit like mario your still avoiding getting hit

>STOLKER: Shadow of Chornoboyle
the "Enhanced" Editions anti-soul'd the entire trilogy. Luckily you can just mod & play the originals.

>>717464870 (OP)
Don't play the enhanced editions, the graphics are downloaded and all the Soviet iconography gets scrubbed from the game. Wandering around a Soviet timecapsule is 25% of the game's atmosphere. There aren't major differences between the difficulties, some people claimed lower difficulties made bullets disappear but that's been debunked and player damage to enemies/accuracy is identical on every difficulty, early game guns just suck. Pro tip for a completely unexplained mechanic, if you do iron sights for 1 second and haven't fired in the last second, and get a headshot, it will do 10x damage. Don't use any mods on your first playthrough unless you run into gamebreaking issues like repeated crashes/data corruption (most people don't).

>>717471746
>so you're just making up shit, sweet. why not quote me directly if you're so confident in your argument?
Okay.
>>717468810
>the game spams you with so many bandages taking damage is never an issue
Now you can pretend that saying you have so many healing items that taking damage isn't an issue somehow doesn't mean that getting his doesn't matter.
>i said taking damage isn't an issue, which it isn't because you can just bandage yourself up. that doesn't mean taking damage is ideal
Oh, look at that. You already made the retarded followup damage control post. Now do it for these:
>maybe the game should've punished my retard strategy instead of rewarding it and showering me with hundreds of healing items
>get some decent gear and you barely take damage, you got tricked into playing slow and methodical out of fear of dying when you weren't in any real danger at all
>you barely take damage
You tried this one until I called you out over armor degradation.
>take too much damage just tap x and use one of your thousands of bandages

>>717472217
>Now you can pretend that saying you have so many healing items that taking damage isn't an issue somehow doesn't mean that getting his doesn't matter
wow you really are dumb aren't you. "hits don't matter" would imply you getting shot and literally no damage is inflicted upon you, they literally don't matter. taking damage isn't an issue means that it isn't actually inconvenience or a problem to you. if you can't see the difference between the two you shouldn't be engaging in these types of discussions with people.
>Now do it for these
i don't need to because all those things i said are true, and none imply that you would never need to bandage yourself up

another day, another retard pretending to have played the game
the joke that /v/ doesn't play video games has become true

>>717472856
>i don't hold the intellectual capacity to engage with the discussion so i'll just sit on the sidelines and claim the people talking about the game haven't played it
it's okay timmy, you'll be able to when you get a little older

>>717473009
>le grow up
:)

>>717472775
>"hits don't matter" would imply you getting shot and literally no damage is inflicted upon you
No, it implies that hits don't do enough damage fast enough to matter when you can heal through, which is why you kept bringing up healing. Nice try with the attempt at redefining what words mean.
>taking damage isn't an issue means that it isn't actually inconvenience or a problem to you. if you can't see the difference between the two you shouldn't be engaging in these types of discussions with people.
I wonder if you're just arguing out of stubbornness and have convinced yourself that you haven't butchered language and logic because you're that mad at Stalker and getting called out for being full of shit, or if you're just trolling.
>and none imply that you would never need to bandage yourself up
>the game spams you with so many bandages taking damage is never an issue
Pay attention to how the word "so" connects the two clauses in that sentence you wrote.

Can I use open xray with story mods?

>>717471370
Your shit stories don't make sense and have no consistency.
Rushing enemies do not imply going cover to cover no matter how much you twist it.
Crying about made up shit of spamming bandages does not coincide with your changing of your story of rushing enemies down to going cover to cover.

>>717473048
>No, it implies that hits don't do enough damage fast enough
actually no, the way you're explaining it would mean that they actually do matter, just not that much because over time you would still end up having to heal. them not mattering would quite literally mean that they don't damage you at all.
>random bullshit that doesn't actually pertain to what's being talking about
okay i guess
>>717473191
i already defined what rushing means and it fits the definition. please give me your definition of the word rush and tell me how running from cover to cover towards an enemy doesn't fit that definition

>>717473392
rushing means going straight for the enemy
your dumbass twisted it to go cover to cover, that's not rushing
thats why shit like rush b or zerg rush exists in the gaming sphere
but do go on twisting words because you know your shit story doesn't hold up

I heard the censorship is removed so... If that's true, play the enhanced ones.

>>717473469
>rushing means going straight for the enemy
can you post a link to that definition or did you just pull it directly out of your ass? rush means to move forward, progress, or act with haste

>>717473615
>rushing means going cover to cover
can you post a link to that definition or did you just pull it directly out of your ass?

>>717473751
>>rushing means going cover to cover
oh wow already resorting to putting words in my mouth, sad!
if i'm rushing an enemy down, it means to go towards them in a quick manner. if i'm running from cover to cover to close the distance, i am by definition rushing towards the enemy

>>717473897
>resorting to putting words in my mouth, sad!
thats literally what you said tardo
>i am by definition rushing towards the enemy
no you're not
rushing in any game context means going straight for the enemy, its in FPS, RTS, RPGs, etc.
but of course you can't have that and have to resort to twisting definitions because you know your story is full of shit

at the entrance of Military Warehouse drag the two bodies inside Freedom base (will take a few minutes), go back to Rostok/Bar, then go back to Military Warehouse, the duty soldiers will always walk toward the bodies, watch all hell break lose with no aggro, plunder

>>717473897
>yeah running from cover to cover to close the distance is still rushing
>oh wow already resorting to putting words in my mouth, sad!
?????????????????????????

last time I replayed it I used the new version, it's fine there are a couple of things like forced anti aliasing that makes everything slightly blurrier than the og without anything, I think some changes were made to damage scaling or something too most enemies are tough as shit until you get endgame tier weapons
also there are a million artifacts everywhere which I don't remember the original having

>>717474047
>>717474174
>thats literally what you said tardo
yeah i said that rushing can be moving to cover to cover quickly towards the enemy not that the word rushing means going cover to cover, which is what you said. no that is not what the word means, what i said was that rush means to move forward, progress, or act with haste
>rushing in any game context means going straight for the enemy
and the source is your ass. even still this isn't true, in fps games to rush doesn't mean to run in like a retard and get fucking torched by your enemy. it just means to play fast and move around a lot, not sitting in a corner camping.

>>717474454
That's literally what rush b in CS means
Even games like fucking Apex or Valorant, rushing means running in to get to the enemy, not running from cover to cover.
You're the one with the shit story with sources straight from your ass.

>>717474647
>rushing means running in to get to the enemy
you said to rush means to run straight towards your enemy. this is not rushing, this is called playing like a fucking retard, and is an obvious way to get you killed
>rushing means running in to get to the enemy
yeah and the route you take might involve cover, your still running towards your enemy, running to get them. there is no contradiction here holy shit how do you not see this

>>717474882
Keep twisting definitions m8
Rushing always has been like that.
I don't know how many more examples I need to show you because you're clearly stuck in your own closed off world.

>>717475057
>Keep twisting definitions
I'm the one literally using the dictionary definition of rush
Again to move forward, progress, or act with haste. You can do this while utilizing cover, the only mandatory element is that you make haste whilst doing so.
Even going by "the gamer" definition to rush an enemy has never meant to run in a straight line directly towards them. if you can run to an enemy and you can't be seen by him until you're directly on him and shooting him this would still be considered rushing.

>>717475256
Keep believing the lies you're spouting, surely someone will agree with you

>>717475321
>Again to move forward, progress, or act with haste. You can do this while utilizing cover, the only mandatory element is that you make haste whilst doing so
Actually irrefutable. you can't reply directly to this, because it is simply just a fact. Stalkerbros... haven't sent their best

>>717475450
Whatever keeps your fragile ego safe :)

>>717475504
>yeah i admit it, you were right and i have no further arguments to give. i don't hold the adequate intellectual capacity to have this discussion with you, so it's better if i bow out now
finally something we have common ground on. if you just said this at the start we'd have been in agreement the whole time.

>>717475690
>schizo babble
:)
no one believes you btw, but keep coping

>>717475771
>can you stop fucking my mother so hard? the screams from the other room are making it really hard for me to concentrate on my shitposting
sure thing kiddo i'll try to be more gentle with her in the future

>>717475870
>more schizo babble
uh oh anons got issues, might i suggest a therapist?