Thread 717468602

>RED OCTANE HAS BEEN REVIVED
Embracer Group has announced the creation of RedOctane Games, a developer dedicated to the "next evolution in rhythm gaming"
Their untitled debut game, now in production, is a "5-fret music game" and the first manufacturing partner is CRKD.
The game will be unveiled later this year.
https://www.redoctane.games/https/redoctanegamessquarespacecom/news/press-release

boomer guitar slop
oooo look at me and my little guitar riffs I'm so hecking cool and based

>>717468745
You speak in a slopish way zoomer. You’re societal online slop.

>>717468745
It was FUN

just release affordable fortnite guitar peripherals already

>>717468602 (OP)
I'm happy. Hope it does good.

'ate the west but luv me rhythm games. Simple as.

>Heading up the studio is Simon Ebejer, a seasoned games industry leader who was the Production Director on several Guitar Hero titles during his time at Neversoft
>RedOctane Games team includes creators and developers who helped create and scale Guitar Hero and DJ Hero nearly two decades ago
>brothers Charles and Kai Huang will join a special advisory board for the company. Charles and Kai were the original founders of the Guitar Hero franchise back in 2005, having partnered with Harmonix Music Systems to launch the groundbreaking title

oooo look at me and my little guitar riffs I'm so hecking cool and based

>>717468602 (OP)
why bother when clone hero exists?

>>717469730
clone hero has shitty gh3 style engine

>>717468602 (OP)
>Embracer Group

>>717468602 (OP)
>Embracer Group
DoA in record time lol

>>717468602 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjseUt1is-o

>>717469806
Then play YARG or Rock Band 2/3 Deluxe

>>717468745
>not enjoying playing a curated line up of music classics and ocassional oddball choices by devs with good taste in music
Shame the good taste ended up at GH4

I can't see it catching on when Clone Hero and Fortnite Festival already exist but hey maybe it'll work. DJ Hero was always better than GH & RB.

>>717468602 (OP)
Can't wait. Hope the hardware is good.

>>717471434
Isnt dj hero just a shitty clone of beatmania? And the beatoraja BMS autists made thousands of original charts for their game

>>717468602 (OP)
>GH died off due saturation + record labels jewery of its success
>Now they'd have to deal with what's left of the record labels + Spotify that was the one that somehow put record labels in all fours and proceeded to fuck them in the ass
It's damned to be a GHLive tier title with shitty music and bands with like 3 fans at best.

>>717471628
It doesn't play like Beatmania at all despite having the turntable motif shared. Beatmania is way more about a large number button presses on the beat while DJH has directional scratch patterns and crossfades/stabs. DJ Hero's community makes mod charts too and most of them are brand-new mashups or beat juggles (with a few charts of pre-existing turntablism sets).

Fun fact: Before Guitar Hero, Red Octane was a company that produced dance pads for Roxor's DDR clone called In The Groove. They also made the PS2 port of In The Groove.

>>717471786
For me it's
>thing:japan :O
But unironically. Have little faith in dj hero considering how much the devs have a proven track record of brazenly ripping off games and making a shittier version like gitadora to guitar hero

I'm actually pissed the fuck off at this. They poached the devs of YARG (the best PC version of the plastic instrument genre, fuck Clone Hero), and now YARG is dead.

>>717468602 (OP)
I am skeptical about this, music licensing isn't cheap and unless RedOctane / CRKD / Embracer have much money to spend on licensing costs the setlist is going to be a bunch of no-name community ran songs

I want a game that lets me make hot bitches to play custom songs along to.

>>717471951
Funny, I was just discussing how incels don't get games made for them anymore because they just steal shit. Lo and behold an incel chimping out because he's losing his piracy-supported video game.

Welp, there ya go.

>>717472103
The songs don't matter, the charts do

>>717471905
They weren't developed by the same devs as GH, it was Freestyle Games. It's actually way more of an original idea and all of the mixes in the main games were original mashups that had a bunch of guest DJs. I listen to both of their soundtracks to this day.

>>717469730
>ez mode spam engine for troons
no thanks.
>>717471156
CH based on the GH2 engine but without the shitty 16 NPS strum limit would have been kino

>>717472220
tell that to Guitar Hero 3's success vs. Guitar Hero 2. GH3 had masters and GH2 only had a few

>>717472373
GH3 was so successful because it was on every console.

are there any good, new usb guitars i can use with clone hero? right now i'm using my guitar from gh1 through an adapter
but i figure it's been a while since fortnite added a gh mode so maybe there's a good new controller by now

>>717472220
>The songs don't matter
They do. How wouldn't matter when the licensing is the most important part of these type of games?

>>717472412
>GH3 was so successful because it was on every console.
GH2 too, retard...

>>717472441
>mfw strumming my electrical full strings doesn't sound as loud
what were they thinking?!

>>717472435
They put out a new guitar for the Fortnite thing yeah.

>>717472447
>>717472373
They matter to normies but not to the hardcore

>>717472621
yes which is why GH3 was more successful bozo

>>717472621
Normies don't buy these type of games let alone for one song.

>>717472527
neat, maybe i'll grab one

>>717472721
Guitar hero was the most profitable media franchise of all time in the history of planet earth dude

>>717472214
I could rant and ramble about this but it wouldn't fit in a single post. I have spent literally thousands of dollars on Rock Band in my lifetime. Hardware, software, new consoles, etc. I am THE Rock Band guy in my life. When social gatherings are happening, people say "Dude, you're bringing Rock Band, right?" It's been like this since the original Rock Band came out. I've dilligently transferred my licenses from the original game up through to Rock Band 4. I bought the 360 > Xbone hardware adapter. I have so many songs it's a slog to scroll through. I am the furthest thing from unsupportive of the concept of Rock Band.

What I am, however, is realistic. Playing Rock Band 3 or 4 sucks absolute fucking cocks. The 360 is old and slow as shit. The Xbone sucks ass. The Series S or X is marginally better, but still slow. Despite having paid for thousands of songs, maybe 5-10% of them have been stolen from me due to licensing restrictions and losses over the years. I can only use a single style of instrument if I'm lucky. Don't even get me started on Harmonix being bought by Epic and the shitshow that is Fortnite Festival.

Now compare all of that to YARG. Yeah, I get to pirate every song. But guess what? I owned about 50% of the library as is, and about 40% of the total that I don't own literally isn't available to be purchased anymore since the Rock Band Network is dead. So fuck you, I'll be taking that too. On top of having the entire library ever released between GH and Rock Band, I have tens of thousands of custom songs at my fingertips - songs that Harmonix never had a snowball's chance in hell of licensing. Now stack on being able to use any plastic instrument ever made with a couple of clicks, and yeah, I'm going to pick YARG every time. There is nothing these people can do to satiate the demand for plastic instrument games, because the music industry is fucking retarded and licensing is hell. Hey, guess what? That's why Harmonix died!

>>717468745
>t. filtered by the orange button

>>717469730
Clone hero is overrated. It's great for custom songs sure, but it feels absolutely soulless compared to the official games.

>>717472837
Nah, you're overblowing it; it was succesful due mass appeal with music and musicians but not that much. That mass appeal is not there anymore

>>717472896
>understimating the pinky
rookie mistake

>>717472858
>I owned about 50% of the library as is
Reminds me of this guy I know that steals from the store and tries to justify it by saying "well, at least I bought ONE of them!"

Why not ask the artist/band if what you're doing is cool at the very least?

>>717469806
gh3 was the best engine
and fuck every cunt that puts purple notes in guitar charts keep that shit to bass

>>717472858
Fuck it, I'm going to keep rambling. YARG has gone so fucking far in supporting shit that Harmonix themselves completely forgot about. Did you know that nearly the entire official Rock Band library has choreographed light shows and smoke machine timings? They sold a smoke machine kit and a tiny piece of shit LED in 2010 for like 6 months and then never again. YARG not only supports these accessories, but also added support for standard DJ hardware via DMX. You can buy any DMX-compatible lights you want, plug it in to your computer, and it just works. They were teasing adding support for character models to play along with the existing data in each track just a couple months ago.

>>717473321
Ah, I knew that you'd be that kind of niggerfaggot. This is why I hardly post on here anymore. Nobody argues in good faith. Fuck off.

>>717473380
>Ah, I knew that you'd be that kind of niggerfaggot. This is why I hardly post on here anymore. Nobody argues in good faith. Fuck off.
lol go cry on bluesky then

>>717473321
>Why not ask the artist/band if what you're doing is cool at the very least?
Artists don't care, only faggot jew arstists do.

>>717473380
>admits he's one of the incels that steals shit
>still chimping out because nobody wants to give him shit for free
>acts like an entitled child who deserves special treatment
>merely suggest he ask someone if they can use their works for free
>WOW BAD FAITH NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER
Oh lord, thanks for the laugh, chuddykins. Now give that music back, Jamal.

>>717472858
>>717473380
>he steals stuff
are you poor?

>>717473321
The artist don't own the songs, you'd have to ask the labels

>>717473321
>Why not ask the artist/band if what you're doing is cool at the very least?
Because the record labels took away their writting rights, you dumb grape. If you have to ask anyone you'd have to ask the record labels, not the artists and record labels deserve nothing when they pull shit like that, which is rather common

>>717473321
>>717473723
>>717473636
>>717473523
you don't have to samefag bro everybody downloads shit off the internet for free whether it be videos, songs, movies, games. people get the clone hero songs off of a google drive page. unless somehow I'm misinterpreting your post. you're not paying money to play songs in clone hero surely?

>>717468602 (OP)
This was cringe when it was new. Millennials trying to be like their parents, hilarious.

>>717473905
But without the record label the songs don't have mainstream narrative and aren't canonically "classic" so some hikikkomori's song is equivalent or better than it

>>717468602 (OP)
>Embracer Group

>>717474191
>you're not paying money to play songs in clone hero surely?
you have to pay people to chart shit unless you're spending 12 hours of your free time tempo mapping and placing notes in moonscraper

>>717474260
>But without the record label the songs don't have mainstream narrative
You do realize record labels were never important to bands in the big scope? Record labels were all about racing to find a band with traction to sign them, if you apply the new "paradigm" now there's internet to undermine further the importance of record labels.

did deltarune chapter 4 OST get charted yet

>>717469730
clone hero has 0 soul

>>717474538
You cant have journalists and historians and "experts" shilling for you without a record label paying them. And without the mandatory shilling? Sorry goy you're not a (((classic)))

>>717474416
>pay people to chart shit
every song i could ever want to play in clone hero has already been charted, though. And new music i like doesn't get made anymore

>>717469442
Cool and based riff-playing guitar doggo

>>717474416
Huh... you'll find most songs on enchor.us unless you're trying to play overtly obscure shit

>>717468745
Facts. Fuck boomers and their cringe rock. Rap is way better

>>717474656
>You cant have journalists and historians and "experts" shilling for you without a record label paying them
None of them are relevant; bands made breakthroughs on their own with only the music speaking and all of the prior weren't ableto do shit against them. From Van Halen to Mc fucking My Chemical Romance.

>>717469442
>rifs are only 2 strings and 3 frets for the most part
FUCKING HACKS!!!!

>>717474538
>You do realize record labels were never important to bands in the big scope
Not entirely true, bands never liked 'em but they were absolutely necessary, kind of like dev / publisher relationships today where you need someone to handle the business side.
Doubly so for bands because they're usually made up of a bunch of teenagers / druggies getting into the stupidest fights imaginable
bands got to record and go on tour and get high as fuck and fuck underaged groupies, the labels would promote them, market them, and pocket the difference, that was the agreement

>>717468602 (OP)
Why are these plastic toy guitars so expensive?

>>717474740
hardly any LCD Soundsystem on enchor.us

>>717474954
>Not entirely true, bands never liked 'em but they were absolutely necessary, kind of like dev / publisher relationships today where you need someone to handle the business side.
This is only when you assume the positive aspect and effect record labels had, which is just a fraction and temporary. For the most part they're a blight and, to the band's output, detrimental in the long run. This is why the 3rd record rule exists; the short period where the record label prescence and input had positive effects. By the 7th record... not so much

>>717475025
Chinks arent making any knockoffs because of lack of popularity. You can get a chink ps3 controller for $10 but i cant find any chink guitars

>>717472858
>>717473380
anon these boards are for bots, pajeets shilling and data harvesting. unfortunately people genuinely interested in stuff like GH aren't on as much as the shills trying to make this board less interesting to partake in.

>>717468602 (OP)
Fuck embracer group all they do is ruin IPs
It's just gonna be shitty indie rock since all the good music was used up in the old games

>>717475120
some of that is because of music industry greed but a lot of the times it really is just because the band ran out of creative energy.
it's very rare you find bands that still have enough ideas to go beyond making a single album.
they have all their life up until high school or college or whatever to think about what they want to put into song form to fill up a record

then they have to do that again, but in less than a year or two for their followup.

>>717475262
For rhythm games there's nothing to say. We're all playing games and not looking at this bs board

>>717468602 (OP)
>Embracer
>era of music being dead
>new groups fucking suck or borderline generic looking and sounding
>No new music icons
>mfw
Predict the set list of modern bands included, /v/

>heavy metal bands like Ghost
>modern guitar virtuosos Polyphia
>contemporary long running, genre-defining bands like Falling in Reverse, Bullet for my Valentine and Linkin Park
>Old school classic like Green Day
>Uno, Dos, Tre and Father of all Green Day
L
M
A
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>>717475623
>some of that is because of music industry greed but a lot of the times it really is just because the band ran out of creative energy.
The music industry IS greedy, not a part of it but as a whole; it exists for the money, it's called industry for a reason and their grind of the bands kills them faster or straight up breaks them into something completely different the more input they have and they will try to meddle with their band's output. If anything it's amazing its prescence helped to make great music, almost a miracle. Record labels only use were logistics

>then they have to do that again, but in less than a year or two for their followup.
The only good thin Spotify brought was killing this pattern and forced to remember music is about playing live shows

>>717468602 (OP)
Can't wait for 10 more years of shovelware slop with licenced games that'll be delisted and shut down after a year of it being out. Thank God the guitar hero games stayed on ps2/ps3.

>>717468602 (OP)
The biggest problem is that rock music hasn't been a thing in the last 20 years. Back when Guitar hero was a thing you still had people listening to current rock music while remembering older classics.
Now? Today?
How do you attract an audience listening to songs they don't even recognize because they're too damn old with the most recent entries dating to the mid 2000s at best?
Are we gonna put fucking Imagine Dragons on there and call it a day or something?

>>717475847
>mfw never got any Kerplunk! Green Day across swaths of music games including one that was ALL Green Day

>>717473324
purple notes are fun, harmless and make sense for guitar as much as bass. get filtered bitch.

DJ Hero or making Hip Hop Hero has far better of a chance than reviving Guitar Hero. Gen Z and younger can't relate at all to rock; it's uncool, the music of old out of touch boomers

>>717476864
Sorry, it's American Idiot all day, every day. Maybe some from 21st Century Breakdown if they really feel like they hate the fans.

there is no chance this will be good or sell well. it will be funny though if they overproduce the instruments again and we get several more years of cheap instruments at every thrift store.

>>717475418
Embracer Group’s entire business model is just running old IPs into the ground and then acting surprised when no one buys the zombified remains. You're right, they’ll fill this thing with washed out indie trash and maybe toss in one token classic track as bait, like “Sweet Child O' Mine,” and call it a day. The licensing will be a joke too-say goodbye to any real metal or punk. Expect stuff like The 1975 and fucking Imagine Dragons and -- god help us -- some TikTok guitar loop nonsense. They don’t get what made Guitar Hero fun to begin with; it was about fantasy fulfillment and playing *bangers*, not some Spotify-core filler track from 2023.

>>717477531
I know quite a few zoomers who enjoy different kinds of rock well enough. Wouldn't call it their first choice though

with licensing costs the only way this game could probably succeed is just using covers of songs like GH1 and GH2 were doing

Remember Shroud, a popular twitch streamer and GOAT first person shooter gamer, being the lead advisor of Spectre Divide? Getting the same vibes here

>>717471303
>GH4
Ah yes, the game full of the most mid songs by some of the most well-known bands, as well as Mexico's greatest hits thrown in for good measure

>>717468602 (OP)
It's too late now that clone hero got big. You can play it with a real drum set.

>>717468602 (OP)
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>>717468602 (OP)
thats good. ever since harmonix got sold to epic they literally have not done anything of note whatsoever and i'm kind of glad since that studio turned into a big gay mess with the exception of that one chad who was churning out dlc for rockband up until just recently.

>>717468602 (OP)
Whatever comes of this, I can assure you it will be SHIT

>>717472441
desu I can’t play without it now
I use my old PS2 SG controller for Clone Hero and I’ve tried to use friends’ new production controllers and something about not having the click really fucks with head

>>717482947
It's always been like that for me, back when the original Rock Band guitar controllers came out I refused to use them over the GH ones

>>717469442
that doggo can sure play the geetar

>>717469730
Rocksmith*
FTFY

>>717472441
this is why rockband controllers were dog shit, mushy garbage strum bars with no click