There's no Disgaea thread therefore Disgaea thread.
I hate Sera so much it's unreal.

Dead series?

>Grindslop: the series

your prinny wife approaches you and says this. wwyd?

>>717470671
It's great if you have autism.

I've only ever played the first game, how are the rest?

>>717471340
good. try disgaea 5 next.

>>717469569 (OP)
>see Etna
>fap to Etna
>find out she's from Disgaea
>check it out
>some boring SRPG
Kind of disappointing some of the hottest girls (her, Nemissa, Ellie) are from unplayable trash.

>>717471340
Each sequel is an improvement gameplay-wise up to 5 (DD2 doesn't count), although the original 3 was rough, and 5 changes some systems drastically to the point I can see some people preferring 4. Story/cast quality fluctuates.
Overall pretty good.

Dead series.

>tfw 5 is the only one i've played
>no idea how innocents work
>i've been trying to grind levels in item worlds without XP innocents
>70hrs in
how much faster does having a 900 stack of statistions make it? haven't even unlocked carnage world yet because my best is only seraphina at 2000

>>717471536
How long does it take to get the penguin loli?

>>717473094
NTA but if you mean the one from disgaea 4 she's DLC so you can unlock her from the start

>>717473094
very early. and she's not a penguin, she's a bunny. she just rides a penguin.

>>717473027
It certainly helps.
>throw a few of them into the farm
>get enough to fill a legendary
>enter an easy legendary, skip 10 floors, enable innocent route, exit
>put them on the legendary
>max out and fill Hunter Team if you have it
>skip floors until you stumble upon them, subdue all (level grows x4 or x8 with Hunter Team)
>merge
>at this point you should already have a shitload but can throw them into the farm again
Although you'll have to skip the farm steps if you fucked up and leveled Innocent Aid to 8.

>>717473027
+900% EXP is literally 10x faster
Innocents are simple, you just go into the Item World, beat them up, and move them to the item you want them on. Once they're subdued you can fuse them and move them around wherever you need them.

>>717473505 (me)
I'm fucking retarded goddamn, ignore the deleted post.
What I mean is that with aid squad at lv8+, breeding them initially will give you relatively low level ones already subdued, so you can't boost them x8, so they won't be of any help at step1.

>>717469569 (OP)
Is this yuri?

All my homies hate 3D

Do you self insert as an unit in-game? If so, what class?

>>717473843
so just keep red ones in the item and subdue them? because i got 200 subdued sitting in the farm breeding at lvl9 while spamming fourth trial capping the bears to max out elite four

>>717471235
Rape correct her, and then rape correct anyone in the room so they don't rat me out as a prinny fucker (and rapist I guess).

>>717471249
My autism is reserved for other game I like sadly.... Can't have more than one

I was kind of upset that we don't get to play with liz in the game, I also do not like this bitch too much even tho d5 is by far the best game in the series (story and gameplay wise)
at least bunny loli was there

>>717473932
No, but 4 has a feature that lets you register any 2 characters as lovers for no reason.
D3 extra stories and D4 have some "shippable" main chars.

>>717474165
Ideally, yeah. New ones are born at 1/10 of parents' average level (max potential level, meaning they'll be lower until maxed), and if they're born subdued, it means they stay there.

>>717469569 (OP)
sex with thief

>>717474427
>pic
Kyoko is for me

>>717470374
if all we're going to get is 3d slop from here on out then i certainly hope so.

Does the steam version of Disgaea 5 crash often? One day my whole PC just crashed when I was playing 5 the other day. I googled around and it seems like a fairly common issue.

>>717475694
It stutters a lot but never crashed for me.

>>717476765

>>717471235
God, I love that fucking game so much. Favorite NIS game by a landslide.
Sequel never fucking ever.

>>717471645
I don't think anyone has ever been as filtered as you

I wish video games were still good like this

>>717478436
>lawl u filtard bai bad gameprey

>>717474291
My autism drives me to play through every single game I'm interested in no matter how much of a timesink it is. Though you probably have to be a NEET for that to work.
With Disgaea you can just do the story and only whatever postgame stuff you feel like in each until you figure out which entry you actually want to grind the fuck out of.

>>717478767
How did they get away with this?

>>717478907
>bad gameprey
Name 5 good games.

>>717481203
5 copies of Jackie Chan Stuntmaster.

>>717481265
I kneel

>>717480123
God witch doctor was so fun in D4(or was it D3?). Entire map wide debuffs will never not be fun.

>>717473945
>Do you self insert as an unit in-game?
no that seems kinda dumb, dood
>If so, what class?
If I did, it would probably be a Prinny. dood.

>>717482925
It's D3 and she's in D5 and 7 too I think. She's a fun NPC in D3's hub with a lot of dialogue. She may use curses but that tummy is holy

Why is she so flat?

>>717483790
she's an archer and boobs get in the way of drawing the bow

>>717483790
Aerodynamics

>>717473945
Ninja, having a unit with a high move speed is always great and fists has always been my favorite weapon class.

>>717483076
this is the perfect female body type

>>717483790
I wanna drill those drills

>>717469569 (OP)
It's funny because in Japanese, Poor is "bimbo"

>>717470671
It's sad how you post the same shit in every game threads, all day, without ever admitting to play anything, because you don't. You just under the impression that going on a chat and saying magic words like "slop" is enough to become the next asmongold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7fLJNnWanw&list=PLIT2qNV3U8ljqbJTdoaKSNgmAtllDRJ5X
>maxing out multiple characters and rank 40 items with just the item world before starting the story because he doesn't like flonne
based or cringe?

>>717471645
I will reproduce WITH that arwork

>>717484858
>because he doesn't like flonne
It's something to do with numbers, isn't it?

>>717480504
It was a different time.

>>717484909
Nope, he just finds her annoying apparently
Flonne is one of the best characters in Disgaea 1 if you bother to teach her spells

>>717484970
>annoying
INCONCEIVABLE

>>717484858
Sounds like a "fun" autism run, but at that point you'd want to never progress the story on that save at all or it's ruined.
Certainly some severe shit taste otherwise.

>>717485216
>the flonneride stare

>>717484858
>>717485216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TkRqFhS434&list=PLeBBsrVrDpWM_7BYMdvCiPnsDMEhAqt7B
There's also this guy who also got like Rank 39/40 items through the item world only using a single Prinny before going through the main story and later defeating Baal. I can't suggest watching it because the background noise in the stream is atrocious but it is pretty impressive. He had to grind for like an hour on the tutorial stage before the prinny was strong enough to make it through a low-rank item world.

>>717484858
>>717485815
I just play them like normal fuckin games, I've never really even gotten into the Innocents aspect at all. Am I missing out or just not autistic enough?

>>717483790
there is a subtle subplot in the games about her flat, you have to read between the lines

Flonne is all grown up!

>>717485892
>Am I missing out or just not autistic enough?
The post-game stuff is just for people who really like number go up autism, superboss challenges, or things like "perfecting" items or characters. If you just care about the main story you're not really missing out on much. The gameplay does fundamentally change at that point so it makes sense that people who enjoyed the main game segment might not like post-game autism.

>>717477334
Can I be the hero? I got a sequel

>>717486084
The approach I'm taking is that I'm going through all of the main stories sequentially and then going back and doing the same with the postgames and extra content like Etna Mode

>>717480504
You used to be able to have fun. Soul Nomad was filled with lines like that from constantly calling people retarded, whores or how they belong in the special olympics. In one scene Gig basically calls someone a faggot and then immediately kills him.

>>717486910
Edgy NIS was peak. Do you think even the Vato Bros. would fly nowadays or would people call it racist?

why did disgaea succubi stop being thicc?

>>717488274
You used to be able to have fun. You could say retard, you could parody mexicans and you could have thicc women.

>>717485892
I think the Item World is fun, and you don't have to get super autistic to get a lot of benefit out of it
It's totally fine to just approach the games like normal RPGs though, that's how you're supposed to handle the main story, all the autistic grinding and minmaxing you can do for the postgame doesn't have to be the "real game" (at least not in the earlier games)

Which characters did you like best from Disgaea 6?

>>717488932
that breast jiggle is unnecessary.

>>717488932
always makes me lol when people post webms of the crazy disgaea special move animations and they end up doing very little damage to the enemy

MASHARU AHTSU-NYA

>>717489165
Sloppa
Make one where the Archer's boobs turn big and she does a Dreamworks face

Are the rhapsody & new phantom brave game any good? I'm halfway through one right now and good god is it easy are the sequels any better?

>>717489356
Archer should never have big boobs, anon.

Does being a victim partially absolve a person of their own crimes?

>feel like playing Disgaea 4
>remember geo cubes and how almost all of the main cast are annoying retards
>no longer feel like playing Disgaea 4

>>717489356
if she had boobs she'd hurt herself with arrow recoil :(

>>717489749
did you say something?

>>717489827
But most people say Disgaea 4 has the best cast?

Do you miss when NIS was a thicc company?

>>717489939
Reminder that the character in the middle with the half-suberged face is a boy.
In fact it's the little brother of the girl at the top (Prier).

>>717489827
>>717489905
It fucking doesn't
3's humor and writing has aged much better than 4's and it's an older game.

>>717475083
This

>full cast + story
4 > 1 > 3 >> 2 = 5
>protag alone
4 >>> 3 > 1 > 5 > 2

>>717490259
>>717490779
Who is right and who is wrong?

>>717469569 (OP)
>I hate Sera so much it's unreal.
Same brother.
I feel like the heroines in each game have been dogshit from 3 onwards if we ignore Flonne who sucks ass, but Laharl x Etna is the OTP.
Fuka isn't real and Artina is AWFUL. Most of the 4 characters suck and DLC does not 'save' Valvatorez being dogshit for the entire runtime of the game.
Liezerota is good but doesn't exist and Sera is vile.
Melodia sucks but thankfull Bieko is good.
Beryl and Rozalin were peak, I don't know how they got them correct but then failed every other time.
I'm praying that the girls in 7 are good, I still haven't started it somehow, life comes at you slow.

>>717484858
>because he doesn't like flonne
extremely based

Why do so many people hate Fuka's schtick about everything being a dream?

>>717491653
I found it extremely tiresome the first time I played it, but after I accepted it I started liking her a lot more.
I also warmed up to her when she became a good sister to Desco.

>>717491157
Liking 4 means you have shit taste, or are choosing to view the games protagonist as Emizel.
Valvatorez sucks. Artina sucks a lot. Fenrich has half a sticky note worth of personality, but can sometimes be funny. Fuuka is mid but has a good design. Emizel is good. Desco is mediocre, but bumped up in points if you wanna fuck her.
The only ones that come close to being that bad are 5 and 6, with the former if you hate Shonen and dislike Christo and Vulcanus and the latter having a very weak secondary aside from the based lolihag and suffering greatly from literally reusing the first half of the game as padding in a mediocre way.

Also if you play with the english dubs, your opinion is irrelevant and you should be chemically castrated for posting it (looking at you, every single D3 detractor I've ever talked to online to date)
>>717491653
it got run into the dirt, basically its a pacing issue. She's cute though

>>717491653
it's just annoying how they can't let her say anything without also commenting that it's a dream even if it has a purpose

How would YOU cope with being fucking murdered by a monster and ending up in hell?

>>717490779
Retard award
>>717491804
>Also if you play with the english dubs, your opinion is irrelevant and you should be chemically castrated for posting it (looking at you, every single D3 detractor I've ever talked to online to date)
You were so closed to being right and then you said this. Disgaea is one of the best localized series I've seen.

But yeah, D4's cast is overrated as fuck.
>Sardines!
>All is for my lord!
>This is all just a dream!
>Give me your HL or something
>Desco will be the final boss!
The cast is pretty much just entirely characters written around one joke or personality trait. The main villain is retarded and stupid as fuck and his voice acting is horrendous. This little niggy is the one interesting character with an actual arc.

>>717491804
I hate Fuuka, but seeing her naked bottom half in that Toramata alt makes me rock hard every time.

>prinny 2 with the english dub

>>717491412
>I'm praying that the girls in 7 are good, I still haven't started it somehow, life comes at you slow.
I'd say none of them are outright bad. Pirilika is pretty much Sera if she didn't suck shit.

>interesting and intriguing Halloween esque Netherworld setting
>Nah let's just put it in Place (Japan) instead
Is this what people mean when they say the setting is losing its identity?

>>717492362
Identity was lost long before 7. Arguably 2 with the addition of uncountable other netherworlds.

>>717492414
2 had its moments, 3 I would say has been the only one to come even close to capturing the atmosphere 1 has.

>>717492501
2 and 3 may have tried to keep the spirit, but opening the pandora's box is unrecoverable.

>>717491804
4 has the best cast, and I played it entirely in nip, your opinion is invalid.
Well, aside from 3 being decent, I'll validate that one.

>>717492362
>Place (Japan)
>no ninetail generic
One fucking job.

>>717492414
>uncountable other netherworlds.
this was a thing in 1, it just didn't really affect the plot much

Remember the good old days?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMOgE7jJNcc

>>717491490
>>because he doesn't like flonne
>extremely based
I would tell you to kill yourself, but Flonne wouldn't like it if I said that.

The Defenders of Earth are the most kino characters to ever be put in a JRPG and it's tragic that they never put them in any subsequent game beyond a cameo

I keep forgetting D1's main cast technically consisted of more than 3 characters.

>>717494171
so did NIS

>>717494562
Etna would never say that because demons are supposed to be evil. Hating niggers is an objective moral good.

>>717494562
who are the niggers of the netherworld

>>717494607
It's obvious, dood
>lazy
>retarded
>have to be whipped to do anything

>>717494596
They are a societal gib menace even down there in the netherworld

>>717494562
>>717494596
The demons in Disgaea are an allegory for niggers. Think about it.

>>717486910
I still laugh my ass off in D2 when they made "Baka-Taro" in the original JP script into "Tard-o" for the translation.

>>717469569 (OP)
For quite some time my gloves were just gloves I found in the street during winter. Same with my scarf.
So not stolen but found, but sure wasnt rich, more like broke as a shit peddler.

ok, niggas, what version of the first game is TEH BEST? Hour of Darkness for ps2 or Disgaea 1 Complete? is QoL stuff worth playing remake? nothing censored\removed from it?

>>717494720
Does that mean angels are the white people of Disgaea, then?

>>717494824
poor little prinny

>>717494848
Disgaea 1 PC now that it works properly, they ruined a lot of the music in 1 Complete. I don't mind the HD sprites but I think the SD sprites are part of the experience of playing 1.

>>717494868
Yes because they don't spice they food

I just want an Etrian Odyssey/7th Dragon style Disgaea game that stars the generics.
I want my own ragtag gang of OCs to do some silly Disgaea shit. Hell, D7 already went out of their way to make both Male and Female versions of the mainline generics in one game.

>>717495010
strawberry chocolate

I only played through 5, been meaning to go through rest of series.
How's NIS other games? Which one's worth going through?

>>717494848
Afternoon of Darkness for the PSP is the best version IMO. Disgaea 1 PC is pretty much the same as that version but I think it has issues on some hardware.
If you really prefer Etna's old VA then I guess Hour of Darkness is better but it doesn't have Etna mode or the skip animation options.
Disgaea 1 Complete should be the best in terms of graphics and QoL but it's only on PS4.

>>717495004
I have more fun using the generics even though I know the named characters the game gives out like candy mog them in pretty much every way stat wise

>>717494848
Complete is basically a different game. Pre-redesign generics are half the reason to play D1, whether it's for the first time or a replay.
>>717495096
I always bench the protag and make more generics than I actually need, only occasionally adding uniques to the team if I particularly like them.

I like Disgaea 3.

>>717495096
I always bench the MC ASAP and make my Generic Warrior (using an Axe) be the harem protagonist of a bunch of other female generics. Female Samurai, Archer and a Mage w/learned Healing/Buff spells from other classes. And he always has his trusty Male armor knight as a best bro/local item world throw slut.

>B-But Meta
Fuck you I play with soul and rpmaxxing.

>>717495425
Based
>>717495370
Me too

>>717495247
>Pre-redesign generics are half the reason to play D1
That fucking gayass crop top D1 male warrior had was an abomination. I liked the Link looking motherfucker look that D1 Male Thieves had over their D7 redesign though.
D1 Female Brawlers also looked goofy.

>>717495370
It's the one in the series I've never completed, I really should try it once more desu (yes I completed 6 even, had to force myself for that)

>>717495618
>D1 Male Thieves

>>717494824
Can someone explain what's about to happen in this image?

>>717495618
>Female Brawlers
Now that's a unit I've never used besides unlocking the female samurai

>>717495886
Baseball.

>>717477334
>Sequel never fucking ever
Guided fate paradox

>>717495370
Same

>>717473027
Getting innocents is brainless in disgaea 5. get an item with a statistican on it, beat it up in the item world, then move it to the item farm/school/kindergarden/whatever the fuck the game calls it (innocents will grow and breed there while you are beating maps). Then keep repeating this until you have enough to merge them to the cap of 900.

You also need whichever innocents help you get higher weapon proficiency, so you can learn mass nuke spells like Big Bang or +9 spells. I think the cap was 1900?

Once you have those, equip them and grind someone to lvl 9999 on whatever is the best Cave of Ordeals for grinding. Then reincarnate to the next class and grind to 9999 again. Repeat until you maxed every class. Maxing a class gives permanent stat boosts in Disgaea 5. Maxing every class will get you to 10 million on every stat at lvl 9999 (I think).

You may want to do this on mages and then finally reincarnate them as Sages. They have an attack that hits everywhere on the map but only hits 50% of the time. If you have 3-4 of them, with this skill maxed, and the evility so they can't cause friendly fire (I think?), then they can clear item world maps in 5-10 seconds. This is important because in Disgaea 5 it's not the amount of floors you travel that matters, it's how many enemies you kill in the item world.

Then find the last royal treasure item (trapezohedron) and grind it forever. Not only to make it stronger but to find the sage who can duplicate it. Then repeat until everyone is wearing high level trapezohedrons. Or until you get bored.

>>717471340
Disgaea 1, 4 and 5 were my personal favorites. Adell and Rozalin are the only part of 2 I liked, and sadly it isn't mostly about them.

>>717496235
or at least I think that's how it worked, it was so long ago I forgot.

one thing I remember is that I was grinding not on cave of ordeals but on the Asagi map where you have 100 fake asagis. I don't remember why. Maybe some game logic related to you needing to make more kills not more exp? Or maybe just the fact that there was 100 of them, giving you more exp? I don't remember why.
Either way Sages could nuke the map repeatedly, though it took a few turns and sometimes had to move in my power fighter to kill the last ones.

and the cheat shop allowed you to auto heal between maps without having to return to the hospital, that was extremely useful too.

>>717480504
Why do you think hardly anybody talks about D3?

>>717496307
>and sadly it isn't mostly about them.
Nigger what? Did you even play the game?

>>717496419
The main plot is about this Zenon shit. But it gets sidetracked in all kinds of shit that is only tangentially tied to Zenon. Tournaments and ninjas and a stupid faggot called Axel.

>>717489303

>>717494848
PC versions are the best with the most QoL improvements. For D1 play it with the original graphics mode because the HD sprites look very out of place, D1 had a more serious look than the zany crap that started with D2 and onwards.

I think there was a bug where the game crashed once the damage you dealt during a session reached a certain number. But it was fixed because I spent a ton of time after it. It was either patched officially or there was a third party Disgaea Tools app to fix it. Steam Discussions should have it mentioned somewhere.

PSP ports of 1-2 are also solid but the PC ports were made later and added more QoL.

>>717496552
Axel is a gem

>>717496552
Fuck you, axel is good

>>717471645
this etna should be flatter

>>717496797
>>717497046
I don't understand how that Scrappy Doo has fans. On top of being an unlikable tryhard, his post-game story mode was the worst story I've experienced in ANY Disgaea.

>>717497124
Zam

>>717483858
I've fapped to this image so many times

disgaea girls are so hot if they ever made a gacha with the the world might end
men would never go outside

>>717497227
He's funny

>>717497404
>disgaea girls are so hot if they ever made a gacha with the the world might end
They did and it flopped in the west because a Chinese company was tasked with publishing it over here
It's still going on in Japland I think

>>717497361
Uh...

>>717497430
Do you listen to japanese audio or something? I hate his whiny English VA.

>>717497609
I play in English because I'm straight

>>717497227
You have no idea how much hype Axel's entrance during the tournament chapter generates in me. Nothing is funnier than an absolute moron showing off and actually doing it really well. (I would have linked it but it seems like some old uploads of the cutscenes with Jap dub have been removed, it's a damn shame.)

I want to give Etna a noogie!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>717497609
He's obnoxious as fuck in jp as well.

>>717470374
no

>>717496552
>The main plot is about this Zenon shit. But it gets sidetracked in all kinds of shit that is only tangentially tied to Zenon
Should I tell him

Just want to say that I like Axel too, since the rest of the fan club has shown up.

>>717498823
I know about Rozalin, dipshit. You think I listed all of those plot points but somehow didn't experience the twist at the end?

>>717492362
>interesting and intriguing Halloween esque Netherworld setting
>Nightmare before christmas but japan

>>717499160
She's the entire plot of the game, almost every plot point in the game has to do with either her "or" Zenon in some way, meanwhile 4 takes up until the final 20% of the game to actually establish its villain who's writing and motivation are incredibly retarded even by JRPG standards

>>717497124
DE GOZARU

>>717499446
It all feels disjointed and random. I know plot-wise they try their best to make it flow towards Zenon, and it's the hero's reason for getting involved. But it's more like mixed nuts.

I like Axel because he's the buttmonkey

>>717499218
Can't believe Nightmare Before Christmas invented Halloween

>>717484970
This
Flonne is ludicrously overpowered if you give her a single drop of investment.
Literally the only flaw is she's physically removed from your party for Lamington, so you need to have others keep up with her (or just supercondense mana onto her, and have her create a Galactic Dwmon who's basically immortal at level goddamn 60)

>>717495886
Both of them love abusing Prinnies.
Etna is a bit more sadistic and subtle, Fuka is a bit more classically brutal and violent.
That Prinny is about to discover an 8th level of hell.

>>717497216
It's how flat she was in D1/2. The later games overdid it on the flatness.

>>717500635
She was at her hottest in 2

>>717497227
The only good thing about Axel is that one level in D2 where you can go nonstop back and forth countering on invincibility panels. Give it an hour while you watch something else on your phone/other window and you can unlock the lvl 22 proficiency skills on the first playthrough before you even have enough SP to cast it.

Then again D2 makes it very easy to grind for armsmasters. They are 100% guaranteed spawns on one of the high-ish level items, and you are guaranteed to do a few dozen low-floor item runs to unlock enough felonies anyway.

but yeah being able to cast big bang or no way out will make it so much easier to start power leveling. The only thing easier to power level in the game is the clerics due to that one map with reverse damage. clerics are always the first class I max out in D2 thanks to that.

>>717500904
Which D2 are you referring to

>>717469569 (OP)
Add breeding in 8
I want to do some eugenics

>>717501010
Technically 5 had breeding. But it was just to reduce the specialist grind.

>>717499446
>meanwhile 4 takes up until the final 20% of the game to actually establish its villain who's writing and motivation are incredibly retarded even by JRPG standards

What was the plot of 4 anyway?

Or the plot of 5 for that matter. It got so far away from Laharl that I just started skipping all story scenes. At least 2 still felt like it was a followup since it told you what happened to the cast after the first game (even if it was just "haha Laharl didn't learn anything, and everyone left the castle").

>>717500959
Disgaea 2. DD2 is stuck on a console that breaks with a yellow light of death if you fart on it from the wrong direction.

>>717499446
I think the main issue with Disgaea 2 is just the main cast has pretty bad chemistry. Disgaea 4's characters have a pretty similar set of relations to the core antagonist (even as that shifts), but more effort is spent on them interacting. Artina gets time to vibe with Fuka and Desco, Fenrich's opinions on Artina and Fuka are outspoken, Emizel is the closest to a sore thumb in the group, he has fairly minor interaction with Fenrich and Artina, and mostly incidental interaction with Fuka and Desco, but he's still, y'know, integrated into the group.
Versus Disgaea 2, where most of the cast not only doesn't really interact, but they just don't vibe together.
Taro and Hanako are probably the best off. They bounce off eachother well, work with Adell and Rozalin, and Hanako and Tink at least have some stuff together.
Tink doesn't really vibe outside of Rozalin and maybe Adell. Yukimaru barely interacts with anyone, period. Etna doesn't really interact with anyone besides Hanako, and her relevance to the plot falls off a cliff after recruiting her. Token efforts are made here and there, but, really, they barely do this.
This, I feel, kinda in turn makes the focus of D2's plot feel off, because the supporting cast is fairly weak at carrying momentum, which in turn makes the plot feel somewhat unfocused, despite it actually mostly being so. Everyone has a reason to go kick Zenon's ass, but there's not enough attention to the glue for why they're going to kick Zenon's ass TOGETHER.

>>717501053
>What was the plot of 4 anyway?
I honestly couldn't fucking tell you which is funny because I just finished it, watched every cutscene, and was told by pretty much everyone that it has the best story and characters in the series.
Something something the election, something something human world, something something bad guy wants to destroy everything because... Artina saved him during a war hundreds of years ago and made him feel bad?

>>717494938
>Disgaea 1 PC now that it works properly
Wdym it works properly, did they update it?

>>717501289
It didn't crash once for me and I've but ~200 hours into it.
Had performance issues at launch, I'm told.

>>717489785
if they are hot sure

>>717496035
Spiritual successor =/= Sequel

Would you marry Etna?

>>717501246
4's characters just bicker in the exact same way each cutscene and the only character who develops in any meaninful way is Emizel. Fenrich is just as much of a clingy fag at the end of the game as he is at the start, for example.

>>717501053
>What was the plot of 4 anyway?
Aight.
So

Valvatorez and fenrich have shitty jobs in hell jail after Valvatorez lost most of his power over a promise. The corrupternment, headed by President Hugo, is in deep shit because demons can't keep up with human-made horrors beyond our comprehension, so there's less energy to go around. The corrupternment is approached by Nemo, who offers to help supply the netherworld with energy, in exchange for shit terms and conditions. The corrupternment buys time by blaming a minority group, Prinnies, and rounds them up to purge them, mostly as a show of doing something at all.
Because Valvatorez is an autist, this order conflicts with a promise Valvatorez made that puts him on the path to oppose the government. His boyfriend Fenrich realizes this is a way for Valvatorez to get his groove back, so coordinates an entire plan to overthrow the government. They pick up some goons. Emizel, son of the president, who is pronounced dead at the hands of Valvatorez' rebellion, to garner support against them. Fuka, daughter of one of Nemo's underlings, who died to one of his experiments into artificial demons, and failed to properly become a prinny because of the ongoing prinny drama. And Desco, the prototype artificial demon, made by Nemo's underling, back when the focus of the project was making a sister to Fuka.
They also meet Artina, an angel collecting money for Celestia, because Celestia is bankrupted by similar problems as the Netherworld, also a rogue archangel has embezzled an absurd quantity of money to build a big, stupid vanity project. Artina is the woman Valvatorez made a promise to stop drinking blood over, but she doesn't fully remember her human life/is devoted to her mission so tries to not be distracted by remembering. Together, they overthrow the corrupternment, only to learn the backstory here so far. They meet Nemo, who doesn't make his full intent known at first, but seems to just kinda hate everyone.
1/2

>>717501010
only if they have animated sex scenes

>>717501462
no but I'd fuck her

>>717501346
>>717501289
D1 has some perf issues on some setups (never had for me, but I played it with classic grafix), and it had a fatal crash bug where the game counts the damage you do on each playthrough and if it hits a certain cap, the game crashes. So once you start grinding, it would become more and more unstable as you hit larger numbers. Or at least I think that was the cause.

The latter either got fixed via patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/405900?updates=true&emclan=103582791440367041&emgid=4036870438627278010

>>717501462
She's an insufferably queen bee so the only way I'd do it is if I could see it that from this point on forward, I am the center of her universe and not herself.

>>717501873
>His boyfriend Fenrich
No wonder you're the only person who remembers what actually happens in 4.

>>717501873
>Celestia is bankrupted by similar problems as the Netherworld, also a rogue archangel has embezzled an absurd quantity of money to build a big, stupid vanity project

Was that because Flonne wanted to build a mechagodzilla in her image? I vaguely remember that part.

>>717483790
because she plays dah grindan game

>>717501462
She isn't marriage material.

>>717501873
Through Valvatorez' and Artina's collective backstory they piece together, they realize Nemo was one of Artina's patients as a war nurse, back when she died. Nemo took this moment to decide everyone sucked. Humans sucked for killing Artina, angels sucked for not protecting her, and demons sucked for not preventing human war, by murdering humans in the night themselves, I guess. So, having tapped into some as of yet undescribed magic juju, Nemo rose to control the human world, and put it on the path to destruction. Making all the dystopian technologies and advancements you hate, making Captain Planet esque pollution factories, ect. The gang wrests control of the human world from him, but Nemo has a backup plan. He calls aliens he knows about, I guess, to destroy the planet, because aliens are always down to fuck up humans. They want to drop the moon on the planet, the gang goes to the moon, and kicks all the alien ass. Then the archangel's big, stupid vanity project from before saves the day by pushing the moon back into place. The aliens fuck off and leave. Nemo flips his shit, because now angels ARE helping people, just not how he wanted, so he gets so assmad, in a way nobody has ever been assmad before, that his sheer butthurt activates the "shit's fucked" emergency mechanism installed by god to blow up a planet if it gets too much hate on it, probably to prevent it from spreading. The gang goes to kick the ass of assmad Nemo, the machine made by god, and, if you're playing a remake, god himself, to stop Nemo, Artina tells him it's fine, Nemo accepts death, then Valvatores says no you fucking don't, you're going to go do slave labor in hell for one kerjillion years like everyone else.
Then everyone goes home. Valvatorez have up the presidency to some guy because he never wanted it, got the prinnies back, and went back to work.

>>717502385

ROZALIN SEXO

>>717502581
>have up the
Gives up the presidency
Fuck me I guess

>>717502581
>>717501873
What about disgaea 5?

The only thing I remember about that is that they are sailing between netherworlds, and the MC is a jew princess.

>>717502385
Yes
It was ambiguous before, whether this lead to the financial collapse of celestia, or if she was just embezzling the funds Artina was collecting, but the story pieces from the Netherbattle Tournament confirm that yes, Flonne doing this is what bankrupted Celestia. Celestia wasn't doing GREAT before then, but this pushed it over into fucked.
>>717502327
Anon, I like Fenrich getting bitchy because his boyfriend is talking to yucky, icky girls that might steal him more than almost anything.
Except Fuka making fun of Fenrich for doing this.

>>717502581
>>717502793
also how much item world related shit is in D4? the post-game maps allowed you so much easy grinding (magichange to gain super powerful big bang and the loli facehuggers space laser) that I pretty much maxed all classes and levels before I ever tried the item world, and just got stuck there without a reason to play more. Plus I finished all the alt story modes (I think).

Is it worth revisiting to unlock item world related stuff? I was dicking around in the character world when I stopped playing, which was actually difficult (since it scaled to whatever character I wanted to boost and I tried boosting my overleveled dudes).
and it pissed me off that I had to redo the entire story mode to get the unlocks instead of going back to the save before the last map. had to go through story mode like ten times, fuck.

>>717502897
>Anon, I like Fenrich getting bitchy because his boyfriend is talking to yucky, icky girls that might steal him more than almost anything.
Except Valvatorez is too autistic to be in an actual relationship

>>717502793
Aight.
So.

THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO
Or maybe a couple, it's hard to say, timescale's fucked.
Killia, then known as Killidia, because shortening names is a thing I guess, rose to the position of Overlord in a shithole Netherworld somewhere. This was the gangwar netherworld. It really really sucked.
Then, a karate lion man came to town, and beat the shit out of him, but then didn't kill him. He was a GOOD karate lion man, who did martial arts for spiritual harmony and shit. He offered Killidia a place in his dojo, and his family, if he'd be willing to try a new way of life. Killida accepted, intending to learn these martial arts, then probably stab people once he learned them, and left.
Unfortunately, he started actually getting some inner peace, and realizing he was kind of an asshole. He made friends with the karate lion man's non-lion son, who, I forget if he had a different name, but would be called Void Dark, and the karate lion man's lion daughter, Liezerote. Void Dark was strong, but less good at karate than Killidia. Liezerote was weak as fuck, but had that inner peace shit down. He started to become REALLY good friends with the daughter. Probably gonna fuck later tier friends. Unfortunately, this violation of the bro code pissed off the son, which combined with him learning karate faster, meant this whole bro thing was over, Let's Fighting Love.
Then Liezerote tried to stop them, and died, because weak as fuck. I forget who actually did it, it may have been both, doesn't really matter.
Killidia fled, ditched the d and one of his i's, and left, a broken shell of a man who went from nothing, to everything, back to nothing.
Void Dark went completely nuts after this, blamed Killia for it, and then mostly murdered his father, good karate lion man, then welded him into a Darth Vader suit, and mind controlled him because what, isn't that the first thing that comes to your mind when someone wrongs you?
1/2. Maybe 3

>>717494562
Another for my etna folder.

whats this i'm reading aboot characters only being able to do item world a few times before needing to reincarnate in everything before 5, i can't just run the entire game with 3 maids?

>>717503537
So void does some research into demon abilities called Overloads, and realizes he can probably minmax a build with these, using an ability to transplant overloads into other people, to MAYBE resurrect his sister, that he definitely has a healthy relationship with. He starts plundering planets looking for people with exactly the right abilities to Frankenstein together this build, in so doing gets enough people throwing themselves at his feet to not die, that he press gangs into fleets to keep doing this faster. This is the Lost, people that have lost their worlds, and are now serving Void because the alternative is death.
At some point, some kid becomes a Lost, and gets assigned to help the freshly suit welded karate lion man dad recover long enough to be brainwashed. Darth Vader Lion teaches the kid Good Karate as his last act, then gets brainwashed. This is Zeroken. Then he's Darth Vader and fucks planets by himself.
A couple bigger Netherworlds try and organize a resistance, but aren't strong enough, so this mostly goes unopposed, most people just kinda hoping Void finds whatever he wants before he knocks on their door specifically.
The netherworld Gorgeous tries to negotiate by mailing the daughter of the Overlord to Void, since that's DEFINITELY what he's after (it isn't), said daughter objects, fucks off, meets Killia who is just wishing he could die somewhere. She appeals to his sense of not-an-asshole-anymore, and ropes him into taking care of her.
This is the start of the game.
They pick up some dudes. Most importantly Christo, who is Lamington from the first game (this is irrelevant). He's been sent from Celestia to deal with the whole Void Dark problem. Alone, for some reason. He puts on some dollar store horns, and further ropes Killia into leading an organized resistance against Void. They pick up Red Magnus and Usalia, who both had their worlds fucked by Void, and want revenge. And Zeroken, who's an annoying little shit for some reason.

>>717504695
They meet Necrololi who is just kinda evil, and Darth Vader Lion, who are too strong. Zeroken and Killia have an idea, they can use Good Karate Beam to fix the brainwashing on Lion Darth Vader, so they concoct a scheme to do this. It apparently fails, so they go back to the drawing board and return to unfocused resistance. Except it did work, Lion Darth Vader is fixed, he's just proper cunning and is pretending now. He starts jobbing super hard, and fumbling goals for Void. But, Void finds the last ability he needs to make his D&D 3.5 template monstrosity character work, so pivots to plan: fuck the universe, and starts fucking the universe. Everyone gets a character growth episode and shares their backstory, they go to Void's planet/truck, beat the shit out of his underlings, Lion Darth Vader dies instead of joining them because fuck you, feel sad now.
Void eats Necrololi because her ability was important to The Build. Then he uses The Build, to resurrect Lieze. Except this isn't Lieze, this is Lieze's body being puppeted by some fucked up evil energies. Killia and the gang kill her again, for good this time. Void also dies at some point in this, too.
Everyone goes home, and starts rebuilding their worlds. Zeroken starts a dojo to teach Good Karate, just like Lion Dad would have wanted. Killia who doesn't want to just die anymore, just leaves. And Seraphina never got over his ass in tight pants, so never fucked again.

And then Postgame happens, nobody is dead, Killia is back, Lieze is right there and fine, everything is fine, hahaha nobody learned anything go fuck yourself.

>>717504172
I don't remember such limitation in 1-2. Unless maybe you mean Extra Gain, whoever creates a new character (ideally your MC) will get extra stats whenever one of his disciples gain levels. However the extra gain is calculated only when the master gains a level. So if you make 3 god tier disciples, the person who created them will not gain anything if he is at lvl 9999. He'd only gain it if he goes from lvl 9998 to 9999. So it's not the best idea to cap everything at 9999, that only became normal in Disgaea 5.

Or maybe you mean items only gaining power from floors cleared, plus from mystery rooms and Item Boss/King/God kills. So if you fuck up your progress you won't be able to push an item to maximum level 200 (and item residents will also affect how an item grows, so for best growth you have to put like 8 of the same type innocents on the item). Disgaea 5 changed this so item floors are infinite, and you get item stats by killing residents.
So in D1-2 you could have two runners, one a martial artist to knock out or kill the dude on the level skip portal, and another (preferably a flying one like a moth) to bypass everyone and beeline to the portal. This way you could get powerful items with a weaker team, you only had to kill the item boss/king/god.
Disgaea 5 however required you to massacre everyone, so optimally you maxed out a few Sages and used their genocide attack that hits everyone on the map with 50/50 accuracy, have 4-5 of them with no friendly fire evility, and they can clear the map in seconds and get you levelup.

>>717503289
Yes.
It's beautiful.
The autism scores him mad bitches

>>717504695
>>717505149
This is amazing. I do not remember a single thing of this at all. So fucking stupid.

>>717504172
Chara world has a set number of times you can run it before needing to reincarnate.
You honestly don't need to touch chara world if you just want to beat the game, unless you want to make a somewhat unorthodox character, like giving your Maid some Armor Knight skills or something. It's more for postgame autism.

>>717505206
oh it was just 3 and 4

>>717473945
Male Samurai in D2 because of the badass jacket. Otherwise the default Fighter because I just like shirtless fighters

this
look at this
this is so fucking hot

>>717505568
oh, that's just the chara world, not the item world.

Disgaea 3 would be alright if you got rid of the entire Baby Mao arc Or made Big Star the main character

>>717495004
>D7 already went out of their way to make both Male and Female versions of the mainline generics in one game.
Didn't D3 do this first and was the reason people complained about class bloat?

>daily disgaea/nis threads
>full of ai garbage and cp
GRIM!

>>717489827
Doesn't really matter since Laharl is the main character and Disgaea 4's story is filler.

>>717505840
>Disgaea 3 would be alright if you got rid of the entire Baby Mao
It was kino.
>>717506108
I think NIS stopped trying with the main characters because they know he can't be topped

>>717505840
I wish Mao just kept being a dick throughout, that "character development" was weak as shit.

>>717505840
Disgaea 3 would be better if you got rid of the dogshit characters. If it was just Almaz, Sapphire, and Raspberyl as the Midboss style character whom Almaz keeps trying to foil the schemes of only to find out she's just doing delinquent things, there I fixed the game.

>>717505491
The basic premise is interesting to me. It's a neat fusion of Kung fu movie and space opera, that I don't think I've ever really seen done before.
The main problem is they made Void Dark kinda retarded, unnecessarily. The basic outline of his character was fine WITHOUT needing to make him obsessed with his sister, or making him make Lion Darth Vader for basically no reason. Void Dark's character is honestly otherwise pretty standard for a kung fu plot, and I do actually like characters that sit down and try to minmax their universe's power system.
They also kinda fumbled the sense of scale of the space opera part. Most of the netherworlds don't really... FEEL like entire worlds, they feel like single towns, so some of the stuff done to make things feel more space opera just feel weird and tonally inconsistent.
And they fucked up Killia. Part of this is probably just a translation thing. What's SUPPOSED to happen, is the first time Lieze Love plays, you realize Killia's character. The lyrics are his perspective, and you realize this is a guy who wants to be dead. You realize the loss he's gone through. This... doesn't work in English, because they niether redid the song, nor included any lyric translations, and completely neglected to provide any alternative to this information. Not helping is that Killia sounds more "chill" than "hollow", especially in the dub, where this would be even more important information.
Killia is SUPPOSED to be, fukkin, your withered wojack meme. Nothing left. More over than it has ever been. His arc is moving from just wanting himself and Void Dark to die, to finding reasons to live again.

And also postgame just undoes everything, so it's confusing at best, and actively sabotages a lot of stuff at worst.

>>717506921
Almaz and Sapphire are fucking awful, especially Sapphire. Mao was almost tolerable because of how bad those two were. I can't imagine having taste as shit as yours while still being able to appreciate Raspberyl, there's got to be some kind of caveat like maybe you're a disgusting yurifag and ship her with Sapphire.

>>717506921
Can Salvatore stay? She's hot.

>>717506921
>>717507185

man 4chan is in a sad state to call disgaea "cp"

>>717507185
Not him, but as a yurigod I have no idea how one would even manage to do that.
I liked Mao personally.

>>717507185
>>717507354
Oh wait, right, the DLC story. Still stupid.

>>717470374
why can't the 3D models look exactly like this? Disgaea 6 is so fucking ugly it is unplayable

>>717505840
Disgaea 3's problem is really just that they spend too much time in Mao's Heart. Mao isn't an interesting or complex enough character to justify everything done with him, and his focus ends up straining the narrative.
>>717506921
Honestly, not too far off. Mao DOES kinda need to be in the game, unless you massively restructure things, but, he doesn't really have main character energy. Disgaea 3 would be much, much better if Almaz was the main character, and Mao was the secondary. Disgaea 3's focus on the weird, weird moral dynamic of the Netherworld would have struck better if your perspective was as a complete outsider, and the whole honor student/delinquent thing unfolded around you. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Almaz WAS the main character of the game, but they got cold feet at not having a demon for an MC. Most of the plot follows the strange things happening to Almaz, his growth and understanding of what a hero is, is more integral to the messages D3 is trying to tell. Mao... honestly just doesn't have much to do with it. Sure, there's the level of guilt Mao feels over his dad, but, that has nothing to do with, or any real level of contrast with Aurum. Almaz learning to be a better hero than Aurum makes sense. Almaz learning and adapting to the strange circumstances of the netherworld, coming to understand his princess, and coming back a better man is a great story. Mao's Heart was a neat device in the context of Almaz taking advantage of Mao's vulnerability to get what he wanted, then realizing what he did wrong. Mao is a device for Almaz' growth, not really the other way.

>>717507226
Yeah Salvatore could be the actual villain Almaz and Sapphire are trying to stop. I forgot she existed since she didn't do shit in Disgaea 3 aside from have a good design.

>>717507841
How to get my daughter to have legs like this?

>>717507861
Eh I wouldn't say she's main villain material.

>>717507947
make her do squats and feed her whey

>>717507821
But Almaz was the main character, it's just the story is told through Mao.

i like disgaea 5 the most

>>717508140
Yeah, and that's the problem.
It shouldn't have been told through Mao.
Almaz' story should have been told through Almaz.

Story 1>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else
gameplay 5>D2>4>3>2>1

never played the 3d ones

>>717508379
6 is the worst at everything with no redeeming qualities.
7 is probably below DD2 in gameplay, and on the lower mid quadrant of story.

>>717507841
Was Rhapsody 2 fun?

>>717508379
>xhe thinks 4 had a good story
Geeeeeg

>>717469569 (OP)
Just started 1, put 10 or so hours into it.
Jesus Item World trips take forever. Does clearing levels even add to the item's stats compared to beelining to the portal? Are Archers as bad as they seem? They're like shitty scouts.

Considering the story is super goofy I wonder how the sequels completely fucked it up to everyone's general consensus, just poor attempts at character drama while having bad payoff is my guess.
Glad I looked up the manual, looks like there's zero reason to not just have every mage have every class of spell. Heals for everyone, fuck it, takes ten seconds.

>>717508379
>D2>
good joke

>>717509112
>Considering the story is super goofy I wonder how the sequels completely fucked it up to everyone's general consensus
It's a combination of them losing focus of the setting and trying to make it a serious storyline in a fundamentally unserious setting.

>>717509252
d1 is one of the most serious games in the fucking series, genuinely i think most of you just played d1 as a kid and think it's somehow any different from the rest of the game. d1's story also falls off hard once gordon shows up

>>717509357
You might just be retarded

>>717509521
>no argument
i accept your concession

>>717509562
I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who's fundamentally incorrect

>>717508617
Eh.
I liked it, but, many of the same issues of Rhapsody 1. Comedically easy, cute but unspectacular story.
I fucking love Crea, she's a treasure. Best part of the game.
Etoile is also fantastic, and gets better in 2. The sigma wine aunt grindset isn't something I knew I needed until Rhapsody 2, the fact that Etoile is a wine aunt while also being a mother is just how much of a gigachad she is.
Marjoly is great throughout.
That's kinda it though. Mostly forgettable plot. I wish Kururu and Crea would just make out already, though.

>>717470374
D5 was the only one that appealed to me bcs it didn't look like kiddie shit
Why did they go back ?

>>717509357
>d1's story also falls off hard once gordon shows up
Filtered by kino, lol

>>717509112
>Does clearing levels even add to the item's stats compared to beelining to the portal?
Killing enemies besides Item Generals/Kings/Gods does nothing until iirc DD2, where the sum total of things killed in an item contributes. Beline for the gate, anon.
>Are Archers as bad as they seem? They're like shitty scouts.
Bows are awful in Disgaea 1, while Guns are incredible. The only reason to use a bow is specifically on a character like Laharl or Gordon, so they have range AND boosted Attack for their unique skills. Niether Laharl nor Gordon should use bows, though. They CAN, but, probably shouldn't.
Archers are kinda always shit as a class, though, in my experience. Weird niche of wanting specific positioning, while being low damage, while being squishy. The good accuracy is undercut by both guns and red monster weapons being g just as good for that. Archers only get passable once they start getting the ability to make a fistful of free attacks every turn, and even then, they're kinda shit. If you want a bow, the Lady Fighter is almost always just better. Does more damage, tanky, and there's natural synergy because she wants to move as far as possible every turn, and the bow lets her do that. Other classes can also use them decently, the Archer's weird specialization almost never actually helps bows function.
None of that applies until later games though. Disgaea 1, bows are just ass.

>>717508379
Gameplay in 1 is fine after the QoL improvements of later ports. I actually liked how some character strengths could also backfire and you could actively fuck yourself up if you are not careful. Like how you can't heal your high level ninja with a low level mook because his innate evade works on friendly items/healing as well, or that the item world sometimes just gives you picrel and if you don't have a gency or you are too underleveled, you are fucked.

makes the game more random and forces you to pay more attention. D5 was just Farmville level of autogrinder.

>>717507841
slop

>>717511251

>>717511396
Big sloppa
Make big boobs archer now

>>717469569 (OP)
I love Etna but i can't stand anymore seeing her in porn. Is it just me? It's "boring".

>>717511396
even more garbage

>>717511618
You sound upset anon.

>>717495053
All of them are good but you started with the best QoL enrich game in the series so going backwards is going to be really jarring seeing all the missing QoL features D5 had.

>>717509357
You're not wrong, D1 is sucked off as master class writing but it's just people refusing to admit that every single game in the series is anime tropes.

>>717511715
>D1 is sucked off as master class writing
Thing nobody actually says award

>>717471661
>>717474427
Were these screenshots taken from a hacked Vita or Vita emulator? I'm dying to play D3 again, but since it never got a PC or Switch I was thinking about playing the D3 Vita release. I have no idea if current Vita emulators are stable enough to handle it though.

shut up retard

>>717497227
Yeah but every time he comes on screen this plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maEpcUnBth4

>>717511969
Last I tried it, Disgaea 3 ran, but had frequent crashing that really fucked with Item World shenanigans. That was close to a year ago though, so maybe it's different now.

>>717511396
I like these ones of the La Pucelle/Marl Kingdom games.
I remember I looked up what Ryoji was up to these days a while back, but I forget what. I think it was like, gacha designs and making a bunch of OCs for a web rpg?

>>717512405
Yeeeeah dairoku ryouhei.
No idea what the fuck that is, but, he makes shit like this for it.

>>717512538
based

>>717512259
White Tiger is glorious. I still like My Comrade more though.

>>717511969
Vita with pngshot, but it might be emulatable by now.

>>717512405
He sometimes draws porn manga.

Port of disgaea 3 never, it is a shame the pc versions of the other disgaea are good, at least you can emulate 3

Why did the gacha fail?

>>717513052
because NIS is retarded, next question

3 is good because it introduced this perfection.

>>717513052
It only failed internationally because Boltrend is dumb or something, in Japan it's still going. I don't play it, never did, but I do like the designs and sprites

>>717513052
Boltrend.

>>717513052
The gacha is still alive.
Tbe localized port is dead

>>717513176

>>717512960
AI nigger

>>717513176
A 10/10 design for a pretty fun unit.

>>717513176
imagine the smell

>>717513176
>>717513389
Not even the best generic 3 added.

How do you feel about Asagi?

>>717513176
spooky cunny

>>717474427
Asuka Cranekick my beloved

>>717513431
I'll grant you that it did add Gunslinger too. That just means 3 has great fucking taste

>>717513446
Best girl, let's talk about that

>>717513526
Not it either

>>717513681
tits too big

>>717513431
She's one of the best in the series, among others like thief, archer, and witch from 2 onward.

>>717513859
True

>>717513176
>>717513859
>play D3
>unlock witch doctor
>immediately check online for fan art
>literally nothing at the time
I'm glad more people are starting to notice the lesser known characters from this series(even if AI had to be the one to show people).

>>717513859
only nostalgiafags don't think witch 2.0 os better

>>717469569 (OP)
female laharl getting dicket by male trap etna

>>717511715
Disgaea 1 wasn't a masterpiece per se but it was a fuckload more serious than all the other games. It's basically a spoiled brat who rejected all emotions because it led to the death of his parents, and his parents are looking after him even beyond death so he can grow to become a better person. And the game heavily satirizes anime tropes, which I guess goes over the head of most people today except for the blindingly obvious ones like Gordon being a retro scifi hero (Flash Gordon, Forbidden Planet, etc), the Prism Rangers, or Evolutionary Girl Etona.
The game also went hard on the "now, you play as Hell" motif so hard that even the games serial number ended up with 666 in it (SLUS-20666). And the Tsunami Bomb song with the organ intro.

All the other games are just a couple of bumbling retards fooling around and fucking nothing getting solved. Disgaea 2 at least was somewhat serious with the Zenon curse and Adell and Rozy both having HUGE twists in their origins.

But by D3 we are with I WANT TO BE THE BIGGEST DEMON IN SCHOOL. Yeah no.

Which one would you marry and why?

>>717513859
only nostalgiafags don't think witch 2.0 is better

>>717514395
Rozalin because she's the most beautiful

>>717514295
>by male trap etna

why do you even want to genderbend the girls into males when Disgaea is the only single game in existence where you can equip anyone with a Legendary Horse Wiener?

>>717514349
>Disgaea 1 wasn't a masterpiece per se but it was a fuckload more serious than all the other games.
Lol. It has serious moments that work well with the rest of the tone but you guys are making it sound like some super gritty, grimdark thing. It's a good combination of comedy and drama.

>>717514612
>but you guys are making it sound like some super gritty
literally no one said this, the original anon complained about disgaea games past 1 being too serious for it's setting when that is literally not true, the games became MORE flanderized as time went on. D1 is the only one with a consistent serious tone despite the comedy. complaining about these games being serious and then going to pretend like D1 isn't is genuinely fucking retarded.

>>717514760
If anything people seem to say 2 and 5 are the "serious" ones which for some reason is a bad thing, I'm told

>>717514395
Flonne because she's the most beautiful and loves love just like me

>>717502581
>>717501873
What's the deal with Fuka being so braindead stupid to the point she thinks she's a Prinny? Is it just some little girl playing pretend kind of thing?

>>717514395
>marry Flonne
>she steals all your money to build a giant robot
>marry Etna
>she steals all your money just because she can (also she smells like Prinnys)
Rozalin is the obvious choice here

>>717515006
chuuni

>>717509890
that's literally how all the disgaea from 2 to 5 looked, Disgaea 6 and 7 look like that because the 3D artists are talentless hacks that only know how to make generic chibi models

>>717514867
>5 is serious
vergil wants to destroy all the netherworlds to resurrect his dead sister that he killed and wants to fuck her

>>717515098
void dark my fuarking hero...

>>717514867
Can't speak for 2 but 5 having a "serious" plot is bad because all of the characters are still written like a bunch of retards spamming archetype tropes like every other game in the series so it's hard to take the plot seriously when rich bitch and red magnus ruin the tone of any scene they're in

>>717515143
You're not wrong
It's the first one that I've skipped cutscenes in even if 4 came damn close

>>717514349
>but it was a fuckload more serious than all the other games.
what about 5 then

>>717486179
That's Unlosing Ranger vs Darkdeath Evilman.

>>717514395
The real question is this:

Rozalin, Artina or Seraphina?

>>717515362
5 is legit like 80% slapstick comedy and 20%
>i am me despite my faults
and thats it for it's serious moments, compared to disagea 1 where we have etna's diary and her talking about being mind controlled/memories being taken and her plan to kill laharal, laharl's mom, the whole can demons love stuff, and a multitude of other moments that happen every single fucking chapter. disgaea 1 takes itself so much more seriously than 5 ever could

>>717515458
Ignore random whores. Go for Miss Evil.

Why didn't any of you like sardine vampire?

>>717515846
I hate sardines

>>717514867
The plot in 2 is kinda dark, in that everybody is turning demon, but we don't see it, don't see why it's bad, there are no developments and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. The only chapters I remeber are about Taro and Hanako getting kidnapped and the tournament arc, both of which don't matter for the original goal.

>>717515846
I don't hate him character wise, he looks cool, has good voice acting, and is funny, the problem is the writing gives him very little to work with

I just got Disgaea DS two days ago. it will be the first Disgaea game I play.

>>717514395
Flonne.
She's sweet, kind, and never gives up on people she cares for. If there's only one person left in your court, you can be assured Flonne still has your back.
She also has a lot of hobbies, and I want to hear her ramble about them for hours.

>>717516126
>and never gives up on people she cares for
In D4 postgame she admits demons cannot love.

>>717515846
I love Valvatorez, he's my favorite protagonist.
There's just not a whole lot to talk about with him that can be done quickly or focused. His psychology and philosophy is fascinating, and really binds a lot of the ideas of D4 together.

>>717516125
That's probably the worst version of D1 you could play, but hope you enjoy it anon.

>>717515846
I love that dude. he is my next favorite after girl laharl.

>>717514990
This just looks as if the redhead had a gigantic puffy pussy hairball.

>>717515056
2 still had tones from the earlier games, kinda. It's the HD sprites where everything started looking retarded.

>>717514556
>Legendary Horse Wiener
didnt knew

>>717516181
>In D4 postgame she admits demons cannot love.
Which is just demonstrably false

>>717515846
i like him. except that this is ignored the whole game

>>717516415

>>717516481
You are wrong.

>>717516618
how many of you put it on Etna

>>717515846
He's fine but that's when the series cranked the flanderizatio to 11
>muh sardines
>muh promise
>muh vampirism
cool thanks writer, just lemme play the grindan gaem now.

>>717516684
Laharl wouldn't exist if demons couldn't love

>>717514349
>>717514612
D1's tone is all over the place, the Chapter where you have to find a kid's pet zombie with a horse dick is followed up with the Red Moon which is completely straight-faced heavy drama, and that leads into the final act starting with a ridiculous '50s American sci-fi parody. It's a very goofy and campy game, but it never stops taking itself seriously. Every part of its story and characters are authentic, there is not an ounce of ironic detachment that would get in the way of its ability to deliver a sincere and heartfelt story about a demon learning to love.

>>717516684
>you are wrong
are we gonna pretend like pic related doesn't exist

>>717516748
Every character in 4 besides Emizel is just flandarized by default which is probably the worst type of writing

>>717515458
Tough between Rozalin and Seraphina. Both are really interesting and sweet, niether are quite my cup of tea. Rozalin is probably the least uncomfortable between the two, Seraphina is pretty intensely unpredictable and self interested, but, it's hard to say she isn't a pretty warm and comfy person once you understand her a bit. Rozalin's probably the winner for me, but, there's days I'd take Sera.
Artina kinda a shit tho.

>>717516181
I mean
Yeah, but that's stupid because she's literally seen it happen. Multiple times, with multiple demons, actually. Etna's love for Krichevskoy, manifesting in guiding and protecting his son, a symbol she hates, and her complete shift once she gets her memories back.
Coming to understand that Laharl's odd stance on things was entirely mental gymnastics so he could not hate himself, while still holding his love for his mother.
Hell, even seeing Porkmeister lay his life on the line for his father, the vassals of Krichevskoy appearing to save Laharl when he actually needs them, and if we want to include stuff beyond D1, her encounter with Raspberyl in her mode which is entirely a case of two people in love, trying so hard to help eachother that they're forgetting themselves, or the entirety of Disgaea Infinite, where Laharl is throwing a hissy fit because Flonne's leaving. She's SEEN this shit firsthand. That's just a bad line that is out of line with anything else about her character.
Compared to Prinny & 2, where completely IN character, she repeats things she has seen, experienced, and believes, as the person there for Asagi.

>>717516780
Aptly put, which is why its the best one in the series

>>717516251
>That's probably the worst version of D1 you could play
how?

>>717515846
I hate that Krichevskoy pretty much went: "My faggot son forgot all his character development from his own starring game so I like you better."

And yes, I generally dislike Laharl's treatment in the series from 2 onwards.
The Disgaea Light Novel continuity actually did far better justice to his character in terms of writing stories that take place after 1

>>717516883
https://disgaea.fandom.com/wiki/Disgaea_DS

>>717516125
Enjoy it anon, I put like 500 hours into it
The sound quality is crushed and you're losing out on a lot of the voice acting, but it's still a great game and has some cool features. Don't be shy about looking up a 20 year old guide on GameFAQs if you want to learn more about how the game systems work, they can be a little obscure.

>>717516931
>spoiler
How exactly? I was kinda interested in those, but never got around to actually starting them.

>>717517096
The prinny commentary shitposting in the other screen makes at least one DS playthrough worth it.

How did you guys feel about Prinny: Can I really be the hero?

>>717517265
My hand hurt when i beat it the first time but after that i got good enought at it to beat it in Hell finest mode.
Except the martial tower.

>>717517265
I played it so long that I hardly remember it. I did enjoy it back then but I'd need to replay it.

>>717514395
F Rozzy
M Flonne
K Etna

>>717517265
Loved it.

I actually liked the bosses of the game the most since I always personally viewed the generics in Disgaea to be the highlight and where most of the charm lies. And Prinny CIRBTH's bosses are a cavalcade of deranged nutjobs with the classic designs of the generics you recognize. It's like seeing them really alive for the first time.

Why does everyone hate Artina?

sono na no, ra-ha-haru-sama~

>>717517220
>How exactly?
tl;dr it continued the D1 story with Laharl actually being the Overlord of his Netherworld and dealing with managing it. He gets into shenanigans with his relatives, uprisings in his Netherworld Domain and being a good Overlord to his vassals. Though it really shines in actually trying developing the characters, in a way that seemed like an organic evolution to what they were in D1.

Laharl is still a cocky little shit, but now he shows a legitimate sense of responsibility as the Overlord of his realm. He's still abrasive as ever, but he's showing definite maturity as he settles into his role.
Etna maintains the snarky relationship she had with Laharl, but whenever Laharl enters "work mode" as Overlord, she actually gets her shit together and acts like a proper and competent vassal. She also experiences weird feelings as her memories and image of King Krichevskoy and Laharl at present begin melding together.
Flonne, now a Fallen Angel, is forced to reevaluate her definition of love as she notices a bunch of other girls pining for Laharl. More love is always good, at least in theory, but the feelings she gets when other girls get close to Laharl is hardly pleasant. She begins to think that maybe "Love" isn't as selfless as she believed it to be.

And with this new group dynamic in mind, they get into adventures and shenanigans. Of which involves other Netherworld Royalty, a now married Gordon and Jennifer (and their daughter), and other Angels like Flonne's family. If it wasn't obvious by now too, Laharl also had a little harem thing going on.

It's an officially sanctioned work, but it takes place in a completely different continuity from the games.

>>717471645
This is my problem. I like the art from that company, but there is not a single game I like the gameplay for. I wish they would do a dragons crown style beat em up or something.

>>717517265
I remember Cardamon pretending to be a cat girl when she's a fox for some reason.
Also that witch that never met Laharl but somehow was gushing about him
>When i look at him my heart melts, like chocolate in a pocket. Ah, but is it really meant to be?

>>717517762
What are the chances this was going to be the official continuity before Disgaea 2 and afterwards decided to keep the status quo.

>>717517762
sounds better than what we got

>>717516780
This
Disgaea stands, lives, and dies on being deadpan.
Everything is treated as being absolutely serious, not a single scenario is a disposable joke. Sometimes the circumstances are strange, sometimes unanticipated things occur that may or may not be entirely necessary, but it is all important. The chapter with the zombies is all about highlighting the expectations Etna has on Laharl, and what being Overlord actually means. It's INCREDIBLY important for Etna's character, especially since this is the first time we really, really see the differences between her before, and after she gets her memories back, especially if you understandably didn't know about her diary in a first playthrough. It's also important for tuning the relationship between Laharl, and his dad as an image, arguably the first, truly heartfelt and genuine connection we see there. He's not just deflecting anymore, he's faced with what succeeding his dad means, and accepts it.
Disgaea 2 has this as well, to an extent. It's a bit less good about it, but, still spends opportunities to explore in absurdity. The shounen tournament arc isn't JUST rapid fire gags and references, it's also some of the first real exploration of Adell's traumas with whatsherface, and really highlights certain aspects of Adell's character that are otherwise really subtle.

The one unifying theme across Disgaea, is wounded hearts learning to love again. Every game has this, sometimes multiple times, through multiple lenses, and exploration of different kinds of love, all things Disgaea 1 makes pretty explicit, and are just assumed true by the others. Every Disgaea is a story about this kind of recovery. Except 6, 6 is a shit. Even 7 kinda gets this, even if it does it the worst, pretending 6 doesn't exist. Disgaea 2, as much as anything else, is about Adell overcoming the trauma of sexual abuse, and learning to trust and love Rozalin.
I really could go on. I might, I have a slow ass day today.

https://files.catbox.moe/tx5pyq.png

>>717516727
It's an accessory so technically you can put 3 of them on any character.

Just imagine, Etna fucking Flonne with 3 horse cocks in the pussy all at the same time. Someone get Sparrow to draw that.

>>717518052
not clicking that

I'm just super glad that Disgaea threads have been this active lately and especially when there are actual fans who know their shit talking about stuff, really makes my day a whole lot better.

>>717517981
>Adell overcoming the trauma of sexual abuse
what sexual abuse?

>>717473945
Yes, prinny isekai run. I still haven't used any of the D5 guys except for Usalia

>>717517762
And I'm no shipperfag, but the way Etna and Flonne depicted there is a really good direction in taking their characters. Remember Etna's Diary from D1? It was a somber introspection of her character.

She was truly devoted to Krichevskoy. He was his hero, and implicitly her first love. Her first feeling of genuine hatred was towards Laharl's mother as she perceived her to have given Krichevskoy happiness she never saw him had before. And Laharl was the product of both the person she loved the most and hated the most. With both of them dead, she was left to raise the child of her first love. When Laharl was acting like a little shit, she probably had complex emotions towards the creature that was the spawn of the woman and was staining the good name and legacy of the man she admired. In the early parts of the story, the spite and vitriol she had towards Laharl was probably genuine, as he wasn't even shaping up to be an iota of the man that his father was.
But remember, in the parts of the games where Laharl acted serious and "manly", you can always see Etna changing her tone towards him in those moments. In those brief moments, Etna was seeing the second coming of Krichevskoy and thus acted accordingly in the presence of her liege. And the novels expand on that further by making her consistently act like a proper vassal and even tackles on her feelings for Krichevskoy by now projecting them towards Laharl as she starts viewing him in a more positive light.

Laharl and Etna have a legitimately interesting dynamic of a Master and Servant with the emotional baggage of conflicting loyalties and pent up frustrations of a failed love. That's not even me reading too much into it. All that shit is literally stated outright in the game through the diaries. But nowadays, it's swept under the rug due to Laharl and Etna's relationship being bastardized to: "FUCK YOU I'M NOT FLAT, ALSO WHY DID YOU STEAL MY FOOD AGAIN I HATE YOU IM LEAVING."

Doesn't anyone have a single modicum of fondness for 6? Even the characters?

>>717517762
Sounds like a natural progression from where 1 left off. I like it.

ninetails generic is the rise odogaron of D7

>>717518325
Do you have the same feelings about Laharl and Flonne's dynamic?

>>717517981
The layer games fuck up the essential, deadpan quality to an extent. Disgaea 3 tries REALLY hard to square this circle, but, I think kinda fucks up with the first trip to Mao's Heart. Establishing how easily influenced the hearts of demons are was important, but I think they let the salt & pepper vs hot sauce thing go too far to real in, and the tone never quite recovered, despite it being a really good story about this otherwise.
Disgaea 3 is about Mao overcoming the grief of causing the death of his father, the person he loved more than anyone or anything else in the world, and the complex game of love between Mao and Beryl, between people who cannot be honest with eachother because of the circumstances of society. With a side order of deconstructing the sort of idolatry and pedestal-like love Almaz has with Saphirre, and learning to overcome self esteem blocking the love a person deserves to feel. Disgaea 4 is about multiple, multiple kinds of love, every single character is grappling with love in Disgaea 4. Fuka is working through the relationship with her father, and the oppressive love of a sister she never knew she had, while kinda vwing bitterly in denial over what a shit life she wound up having. Desco is coping with being abandoned, and latching onto the one person she thinks she has left, even though she barely knows them, and her desparate seeking of love gies mostly unrequited, without stringent conditions, that don't get resolved until the DLC. Fenrich is in love with a man who no longer is, and won't let him move on. Valvatorez is in love with a woman who no longer is, and can't accept what moving on means to him, personally. Hell, even Nemo has, fundamentally, had his heart broken over the state of the universe, and the people in it, and Dr. Kazamatsuri is a foil to Valvatorez, and is so bound to a promise HE made, that he let his daughter die trying to fulfill it, and is himself in a sort of strange denial.

>>717518238
Adell is implied to have almost been succuraped by a succ when he was a kid. The scars on his cheek are presumably from when he fended them off.

But that's basically why he's very distrustful of sexy women at the start of the game. But evidently, meeting Rozalin and becoming close to her changed his mind regarding sexy women.

>>717518343
never played 6 but as far as looks go the characters are cool. zed is my favorite protag looks-wise

>>717516181
>>717516865
Flonna is just tired of licking Laharls anus because Etna tricker her into believing that that's what love is.

>>717469569 (OP)
Why couldn't she steal some BREASTS then?

>>717518343
I watched a little bit of the start of D6 and the zombie kid made a good impression but everything else about it looked so miserable it was hard to give it a fair shake

Who's the most forgotten Disgaea girl?

>>717516865
>the entirety of Disgaea Infinite
I'm going to be honest, i remember the true ending being cute but i don't remember that game at all beyond it explaining how certain incidents conect D1 to other NIS games like Phantom Brave.

>>717518554
Yes. Love is a wonderful thing, but Flonne is also blind to the uglier aspects of love. Love is also capable of bringing misery to people and making them do terrible things. Flonne experiencing jealousy for other girls because of her own budding feelings towards Laharl is a good way for her to do some introspection on how she views love.

Man, I don't /need/ super serious stories in Disgaea, but I like it when they actually take their characters seriously within their context in-universe and are treated with dignity given their stories and characterizations. Keep the wackyness, but also keep it authentic.
Every starring character becomes a meme punchline dripping with irony after their own game and I absolutely hate it.

Why is NIS trying so hard to make this bitch into a Disgaea character? Literally shilled in the gacha more than characters actually from the series. Her game wasn't even fuckin good.

>>717517910
>What are the chances this was going to be the official continuity before Disgaea 2 and afterwards decided to keep the status quo.

Not zero because the original Disgaea 2 concept was about Laharls and Flonnes half-demon half-angel son.

>>717518238
It's not explicitly stated as such, but, pretty heavily implied.
The succubus unique/generic, I forget her name.
Iirc, Adell at some point in the backstory, approached her for information on his parents, and she took advantage of him, and is explicitly who Adell got his scar from. She's why Adell worked so hard to become stronger, so something like that would never happen again, and why he's initially so standoffish towards Rozalin. The bits like "woah, stay away from me, I don't like girls much", from I think literally the tutorial or chapter 1.
Again, it's not EXPLICITLY clear that it was sexual abuse, but, between how flirtatious she is with Adell later, Adell's reluctance to engage or even talk about intimacy, the fact it's, y'know, a succubus, ect, it's not a hard read. But, it's not entirely necessary that it be that way, either.
And that's the barrier Adell is overcoming for most of the game. As much attention isn't brought to it as Laharl's growth, but, that's part of the story presentation. Adell is moving through it as a more stereotypical, male shounen protagonist might, with minimal expression of vulnerability, and that's ultimately what the kiss at the end means, after Rozalin explicitly warns she can't be sure she won't hurt him or anyone else.

>>717519108
Even shorter than Laharl damn
It's actually over for that guy

>>717518586
>>717519238
Am I misremembering or isn't it implied that you can bang a succubus in the Item World in 2?

>>717519108
Wouldn't that be quarter demon, quarter human, half angel?
Or, I guess, if Flonne's fallen, maybe we're at... half demon, quarter human, quarter angel? Are fallen angels half demon, just angels, or their own thing?

>>717519034
This
While I don't love everyone they did in those, Flonne growing to understand love in more complex ways was some of the best shit in the series.
I also really like Jennifer & Gordon's kid, but, that's more just passive enjoyment on my part.

>>717516727
better question is, how many girls can Etna plunge it into.

also, JADF needs to finish this pic.

>>717518343
Zed is one of my favorite Disgaea protagonists, Bieko is great, and his supporting characters aren't bad either. Decent story overall
It's just a shame he's trapped in a game that's bent several different ways with bloated numbers, missing features, and a tiny ass list of enemy variety

>>717519068
>trying so hard
>not in 6 or 7
>game not ported to Switch or PC
>admittedly got a lot of costume swap alts in the gacha, but one less than Pram who had new outfit alts rather than just a costume swap
3/10 made me reply

>>717518343
Not... really.
Miserdor is EASILY my favorite from the cast. He'd be on the weaker end of any other Disgaea, but he's EASILY the best in D6. Good concept, and they actually do something with him. It's not much, I wish they did more, but fuck it, I'm dying of thirst, I'll take this fuckin discarded can of something nasty.
Piyori is a fun concept, but they botched the execution pretty hard. I actually don't know what she learned. She ended up where she started, as far as I can see, she just had to unlearn the bullshit Zed taught her wrong, as a joke.
Majolene is similarly a fun concept, but they did absolutely nothing with the character. I would love more granny forced to be a modern magical girl.
Ivar is, similarly, a not horrible concept, that goes nowhere. Except he's somewhere closer to like, Axel, in being annoying, which really fucking matters because what makes Axel work is what they do with him, not the basic concept. "I, too, was sad once" does not a compelling character make.
Melodia is one of my least favorite characters in the entire series, I cannot begin to explain my disdain for this character.
Bieko is a nothingburger. Absolute undeveloped plot device character/10.
Zed... I FEEL like there was some potential in him, but, the format of the first part of the story really hurt his character, I think. There's not really... a moment, where growth happens. He's just different later on. It's possible I missed it though, I've only followed the story once, and couldn't get past chapter 3 of my replay, and never looked back.

Cerberus... is interesting? I like the concept of his character, I like the basic outline of his plan, but Disgaea 6 didn't spend the time worldbuilding enough to make me invested in his plan, and it seems like he just starts pulling bullshit out of his aas once the plot starts cooking off. In theory, I LOVE characters like this, that are trying to game the universe in particular ways, just, he wasn't set up properly.

>>717519335
Yes
Though, in that case, I believe the joke is "Yes, please mommy, I'll do anything you want, use my body, unnnf" and then she hands you a toolbox and points you to her back yard and tells you to put up a shed, and you want to refuse and say this isn't the femdom you wanted, but you already let her put the collar on, so this is your afternoon, now.

>>717520082
>>admittedly got a lot of costume swap alts in the gacha, but one less than Pram who had new outfit alts rather than just a costume swap
That's because Pram is actually good

>>717516972
>Limitations: Due to the limitations of the Nintendo DS hardware compared even to the PSP, multiple aspects of the game were downgraded or removed.
>There is no voice acting other than the opening cutscene and Next Episode Previews.
>The BGM has significantly reduced quality.
>There are no vocals or lyrics in the ending songs.
>The graphics are lower resolution.
>The visuals of special skills has been reduced in quality.
>Most special attacks cause the screen to black out with only the user and enemies affected being

This al seems okay aside the loss of Voices. is the VA good for this game? also, does it help to know that I bought the game for $10?

>>717520697
>tranny casing
pedo tranny ip

For how eponymous Archer has become to Disgaea, her class and bows in general have always been kinda shit.

>>717520932
She was a beast in 3 when I played it

>>717521024
That's cuz bows are good in 3
The archer is actually still not great at using them, the female warrior is kinda just better

>>717520831
It's still the exact same game as the other versions but the music and presentation are worse. If you're fine with that then go ahead and play it. For me personally the lower quality music is a dealbreaker.

I want to furiously stroke Raspberyl's FAT tail.

>>717520932
No, not really.

>>717521224
why is her tail so fat

>>717520831
I'd say it's fine.
The dub voice acting for these games up until 4, maybe DD2 is actually really good, way better than industry average. They shat themselves at 5 and never recovered, but, they're actually good.
The ost loss iss painful, but, honestly most of them still sound good in their own ways. Strong baseline tunes, I guess.
The prinny commentary can make it worth a playthrough on its own anyways, and gameplay-wise it's fine. Multiplayer was a bit scuffed, but, not horrible. I imagine finding anyone for that nowadays is a lost cause though

>>717518343
I want to play 6 but for some reason on PC its a MASSIVE CPU HOG late game. It was okay up to that point

>>717521224
I want to squeeze and bite it

>>717521349
Counter Balance.

>>717520831
DS was my introduction to the series so if that doesn't bother you the game is still good.
I got the PSP version later since i enjoyed it so much on DS.

>>717520375
>Zed's eureka moment
When does he have this. Does this even happen for him compared to the other protagonists? Now that you mention the lack of a feel for one, I can't fucking remember either only playing through 6 once
>was once a sweet kid, the sweetest boy, Cerberus said, wouldn't hurt a fly
>after tragedy, becomes a nihilistic brute just to get even CLOSE to fighting the God of Destruction
>lives, dies, lives again
>over and over and over and FUCKING OVER AGAIN
>probably like a million times. I fucking HATE the number bloat in 6, but, thematically, I guess it fits to show where Zed is powerwise
This is the facade they built up for Zed, but we already see it crack as early as him dying to try and save a random ass Prinny. He's been fucking rock bottom and knows what it's like to suck that much
So if it wasn't about Zed softening up again then what, maybe it still was, what was his arc?

>Archers
>Female bow class
>From an all-female clan of cute and friendly flatties. Hates rangers.

>Rangers
>Male bow class
>A bunch of rapey looking ikemen playboys. Hates flatties (AKA the Archer clan).

What did NIS mean by this.

>>717521224
This but massage and kiss it.

>>717522148
it means they fuck

>>717522272
But the prettyboy rapechads hate ironing boards.

>>717522148
>>717522360
>ywn get a cute rom com spinoff where a male and female Archer set aside their differences and become unlikely lovers

>>717522148
>>717522272
I might be schizo'ing this shit out of my ass, but I was pretty sure that there was lore dump in some supplementary material that stated that both Archers and Rangers were originally from the same clan/village before ideological differences made them split off from each other.

>>717513052
Is there a way to get all the gacha portraits. That's all that really matters. It's the only way my wife gets more art.

>>717522635
>It's the only way my wife gets more art.
commission it

>>717522635
Swallow your pride and make a LORA if you're desperate enough

>>717515846
I like him in his game but he's super flanderized after. Why isn't he a badass tyrant again after he gets over his trauma in 4?

>>717522829
>but he's super flanderized after
Anon...

>>717522635
There's been some asset dumps, one as late as the second WatHK collab. If you just want the portraits you can get them from the disgaea-rpg fandom wiki, which is still having its character list (rarely) updated.

>>717515281
I'm torn because i like val and fen but hate everyone else

this is the fakest thread in the history of 4chan. No one plays these faggot games. If anyone bought these games, it’s so they could attain some stupid collectors edition of literal anything and have it sit on a shelf in plastic for years to come and never play it as with most anime fag games. i.e. hyper dimension neptunia

>>717489028
Your retarded opinion was unnecessary, yet here we are.

The Japanese trailers for Vita ports of 3 and 4 encapsulate the pure Disgaea spirit I love so dearly. I wish there was still anything that made me feel the same way anymore. Even years later when I watch them I get the same hype as all those years ago.

>>717523072
newfag

I 100% D1. I'm trying to 100% D2 but man that felony system is a bitch.

>>717523257
make sure you are towering when doing it so multiple unites get the felony

>>717523072
When they announced Disgaea 3 for PS3, everyone on /v/ was wondering what the fuck they need the PS3 for to make such a simple sprite game, until someone replied "1080p Etna hentai gallery".

Yeah I've been here for that long.

>>717497227
I like axel because even though he's an obnoxious retard, his heart is in the right place.

Artina's ending in 4 is probably still the most sensual ending in Disgaea. And yes, I'm including the literal kiss Adell and Rozalin had in 2 when deliberating this.

>>717518343

>>717523359
Elaborate.

>>717522272
Archer is for pokon only.

>>717523257
Wait until you find that you can't power level items before doing 25+ fights in them in succession, otherwise you'll end up with unremovable lovers spawning on them.

>>717523408
The hands ruin it for me, otherwise I'd really like them.

>>717523326
I know, it's still a grind though.

>>717523359
The best ending in all of Disgaea was the one where Rozalin possesses Adell and he eats his own siblings. The voice overs were great.

>>717523412
No

>>717523359
Maybe, if Artina was actually a character worth caring about like Rozalin was.

what is behind the recent surge of disgaea threads hitting the bump limit on /v/?

>>717492414
I liked that Makai Kingdom showed a bunch of other overlords and how they were all as retarded as Laharl. I love the Disgaea world, they just focus on more boring things from Disgaea 2 onward imo.

>>717523514

>>717523618
summer's almost over

>>717523514
The english dub track explicitly cut out the gory squelching and munching sounds btw.

>>717523618
>recent surge
Theres always been Disgaea threads on /v/, people have always talked about it even after the series died with 6.

>>717523763
ngl, I'd eat Laharl's ass

>>717523913
>Theres always been Disgaea threads on /v/
And most of them die before hitting 50 posts.
In the last three weeks we've had like 4500+ posts total across multiple disgaea threads.

>>717523913
I mean it is one of the websites banners.

>>717523465
but that's the best part. eyehandhoofjob

I wish they would bring back sprites. The 3D just isn't the same.

>>717524038
>one of
try 5+
where's her goddamn banner hiroshimoot

>>717522092
Pretty much this, exactly.
I COULD have accepted the prinny moment as just that, a case of him knowing what it's like to be on the bottom, so looking out for them, but, that's not an exception. He's just like that in general.
We are TOLD Zed is someone who doesn't care about anyone else, but if that's true, he started fixing that before the start of the game. There's like, SHADES of him evolving from helping people for entirely pragmatic and selfish reasons, to move on from world to world quickly, and coming to actually, genuinely help them, this shows up most with Piyori, but even this isn't really stuck to. He's just a bit downtrodden and tsundere, and he never really stops being this. There's the bit of a visual gag with his heart being exposed at all times, but, enough isn't really done with it. Killia wasn't even really about this, but did a way better job of showcasing being someone trying to not care, trying to not form attachments and move on, but being unable to not help someone if they needed it.

>>717501053
>>717501258
>in the past, there was a war
>humans begin developing technology to control demons to fight their stead
>Valvatorez, a vampire demon, wants to fix the human world because their fear energy powers demons
>in the process, he makes an irresponsible promise not to drink blood to a nun until he can scare her
>she dies
>now he can't drink blood and loses all of his power
>he becomes a Prinny Instructor in Hades
>but then he finds out about how the demon world also needs reformation because some guy who simped for the nun took over the human world and demon world
>also there's a gay werewolf
>also there's a retarded schoolgirl and her tentacle loli sister
>also the nun became an angel
>also God tries to kill everybody or something

>>717524524
For years i though it said LOL! instead of LOLI

>>717522148
Another interesting Male and Female class line distinction lorewise was the Mages

>Skulls
>A bunch of nerds that enter a hyper competitive academy to graduate and get the distinction of being a Skull
>Has less innate magic potential than witches so they have to study really hard to fine tune their magic and learn spells

>Witches
>Born with innate magic affinity and potential
>Doesn't need to actually study since the overseeing witch authority literally just beams knowledge and spells into their brains through their fuckhuge bow ribbons

just got diagnosed with autism at the age of 30
no surprises here

>>717492038
Don't forget about the Makai Kingdom dub. NISA sure was something back then. Sadly I'm not a fan of the no grid gameplay.

>>717524484
same, i'll never play 3D slop

>>717524018
Idk
I regularly see these threads cap whenever I see one. I don't even use 4chan often, mostly I just poke in every few weeks or months, and there's pretty regularly one that caps, unless something weird happens. And I've had this pattern for like. 2, 3 years? Maybe more, time's weird now.

>>717524704
>Boys actually had to work and put in effort
>Girls literally get everything handed to them free
What did NIS mean by this

>>717518343
Piyori‘s cute

>>717524826
I'm willing to play 3D slop just to enjoy another disgaea but it'll never look as charming as animating 2D sprites with a limited number of frames and just doing their best to do crazy attacks

>>717524704
>>717524874
The witches are legitimately retarded though

>>717524787
This.
Makai Kingdom's dub is fucking incredible.
Soul Nomad, fucking incredible, probably THE example of a dub actually elevating the original work.
Phantom Brave is definitely a bit weaker, but is still very, very well done, and the genuine emotional chemistry between Marona and Ash via their VA's in the dub is fucking palpable.
Disgaea 3 has a lot of problems, but its dub is not one of them.
Disgaea 1 and 2's dubs are great, even Infinite is great.
Zettai Hero Project, great dub.
The dubs started getting bad with Disgaea 5, you started getting things like strange line reads and questionable casting, but even then, that was still a bit above industry average.

>>717525359
I love them.
>tfw no witch tard wife

>>717523763
Flonne staring at Laharl's ass is cute

>>717525495
We got loli Etna and loli Asagi, wheres the loli Flonne?

>>717523072
Bait used to be believable

>>717523763
I should really look into wan 2.2 myself,
does anyone know if you have to use Comfy?

>>717526364
You do not. Check out Wan2GP, it has an interface more similar to A1111.
I would personally still recommend comfy just for the kijai workflows though; he always figures out the best way to leverage lightx2v for fast video gen speed.

>>717523856
any more like this?

>>717523910
people play Disgaea with the english dub?

>>717526717
yeah

>>717525568
see >>717518698

>>717523414
Kys yurinigger, witches are built for BWC (BIG WARRIOR COCK)

>>717526717

>>717526914
Goddamnit anon.

>>717526717

>>717526986
>>717526914
>>717523856
lmao, I never saw these and I check disgaea threads regularly. post moar.

>>717526675
Guess I'll have to dust of comfy again, when I tried it a few months ago I couldn't set it to my needs for image gen so i went back to reforge.
do i start from this github of a kijai dude I found when searching kijai workflows? or is there a better starting point?

>>717523856
>>717526986
>>717527048
Did they taste good tho

>>717527063
I think there's one more with Taro saying "this is fine" but I don't have it

>>717526985
Nope.

>>717527142
>wrestling is gay now
The left has gone insane.

>>717527063
>>717527123
Got you.

>>717527227
lel

>>717527227
thanks

>>717527103
Yeah I recommend using the workflow and files supplied from the OP rentry guide here: >>>/g/106171902 (wan22ldgguide)

It uses a slightly modified version of kijai's workflow. Also links to all the files you need (you can skip t2v if you don't plan on using text2image). Also links the AIO workflow as an alternative for low vram GPUs.
Also the guide strongly recommends downloading a portable ComfyUI and running a .bat script. Makes things a lot more straight-forward and easier than appending all the requirements to your existing ComfyUI installation.

We're still waiting for the i2v version of lightx2v for 2.2.

>>717527112
Taro has a milky taste

>>717527202
The fuck you talking about? Don't include me in your silly left/right nonsense, I just like cute anime girls. There is no canon for generics by the way, you're free to ship whichever generics however you like, I just like this combo.

>>717523414
Lol. Lmao, in fact

>>717527402
Thanks, That guide seems competent
I had learned to avoid /g/ and its schizos like the plague

>>717527814
To be fair either of you could be right as there are tons of generic class girls. One archer would be a genuine dick sucker, the other could be a carpet muncher. And another, while the other two were out getting sexo, she studied the bow.

>>717527823
Yeah don't worry too much about the people posting there, though I do recommend asking >>>/g/ldg for help if you're stuck on something. They can be pretty helpful sometimes.

>>717527814
Do you think every generic is supposed to be the same character? They're generics for a reason, the player names them whatever and can choose whatever canon they want.

>>717527967
Or bi
She can want both sausage and clam

>>717528272
And they're all canonically sluts for Axel including the male ones

what's his problem?