Thread 717474352

Steam release of Entergram's Vtuber VN indefinitely delayed, meaning possibly hit by payment processor censorship:
https://archive.md/L4jBb (wayback machine doesn't handle Automaton articles well)
https://x.com/entergram_info/status/1953018220647965113

>banning catgirls
>meanwhile, furfag homo dogboy games are greenlit without issue
nyoticing.

>>717474352 (OP)
payment shit is still going on, 100%

I take back every bad thing I ever said about Visa. Heil Israel!

>>717474352 (OP)
Should’ve seen this coming the second Valve started cozying up to the big payment processors. They’re cracking down harder on anything even remotely “risky,” and now even tame weebshit’s getting axed. Doesn’t matter how softcore or “narrative-driven” it is, if it’s Japanese and has a girl with pink hair on the cover, it's done. RIP to another niche title that never had a chance.

I don't know if vtuber stuff or ironic stuff like sex with furry hitler is a greater insult to the legacy of the dead VN genre.

>>717474352 (OP)
>Okayu's game is being indefinitely delayed despite it not even being an erotic game
What the fuck

>>717474352 (OP)
Is it really due to payment processors?
Okayu's game is also on switch

>Stuff that's getting pulled is overwhelmingly stuff not following ((western values)) even if there's little to no explicit material
>Meanwhile 18+ western games are handled with kids gloves unless its super blatant stuff like No Mercy

I'm noticing.

>various circumstances

I read that as "graduating soon".

>>717478020
Weird thing to think about considering what she just did

>>717474352 (OP)
>CERO C game
Yep, LoveR Kiss (CERO D game almost entirely revolving around content Valve hates) is fucked. Tell Dragami Games they need to switch platforms. There's no chance modern Steam is taking this otaku-flavored schoolgirl dating/lewd photography sim.
>>717477368
I've said from the start that this is basically just a proxy culture war on Japanese media and its happening because people are increasingly rejecting the "western values" and propping up Japanese and Asian media as an alternative. This was going to happen from the start. The moment chuds openly embraced anime against the pozzed west, (((they))) were going to take notice and start acting against it.

does the switch one have English?

>>717480447
I don't think so. It was only sold in Japan wasn't it? Same with the PS4 version.

>>717480447
E-shop page only says Japanese.

>>717474925
steam was doing shit like this even before the payment shit

>>717476957
You don't buy games on Nintendo eShop. You can buy points with real-life money, and you can also exchange these points for games. You can even do "buy just enough points to buy the game(s) in my shopping cart" and "exchange points for the games in my shopping cart" at the same checkout screen. Perhaps Steam needs to transition to this purchasing scheme.

>>717480317
I don't see anything objectionable in the webm
you also write like lelddit and should go back

>>717474352 (OP)
and nothing of value was lost

>>717481163
Payment shit has been going on in the background for 7-8 years, who knows if they were doing it on their own or if they were being pressured back then too in some way

>>717480317
It's about controlling the narrative, you control mainstream stories and you control the narrative

They captured the major industries into their ideologies but anime they can't control and it's getting popular

perfect thread to ask this but i doubt anyone would know

Seifuku Kanojo 4-pack comes out late august from entergram. There is a switch release + pc release. I asked the shop and they told me the pc release was discs and not a download code. On .Normally im a console physical buyfag, but wanted to know if PC release is any less censored if anyone has experience with entergram games. On pc i can mtl it so im leaning towards that version

>>717481249
For one, it's a school setting with schoolgirls. It's already well-established that Valve hates those. For two, aside from the dating sim, a core mechanic is taking lewd photos of the girls, similar to gravure. For three, there's a loli, who you can do all this with. Steam has banned games for far less than what's on display in LoveR Kiss before, including a version of Tokyo Clanpool with 80+% of the lewd content removed. And that was before they got by VISA/Mastercard and forced to update their policies again and delist a whole bunch of games. They're probably even WORSE now, if you can imagine it. Gal*Gun is a game with a fairly similar premise to LoveR Kiss and Inti Creates recently just flat out said they don't expect Steam to accept any potential new Gal*Gun game. Maybe you don't think there's anything truly objectionable in LoveR Kiss, and neither do I, but we're talking about Valve/Steam here, and we can only go off recent precedent, all of which suggests Steam will nuke this game on sight.

>>717481946
Holy fuck look how flat she is

Cant even goon to girls with top of head ears

>>717481247
The threat of the payment processors is you do what they want or they'll block access so no cards that use them

>>717474352 (OP)
>Fanfiction based on fake E-girl
/vt/ actually want this?

>>717481640
If it's a physical disc release, it's not beholden to any storefront's policies, which means there's little reason to believe it would be censored. So it would be the safest bet, compared to the Switch release which has to deal with Nintendo's policies which have become much worse regarding anime-style games in recent years.

>>717474352 (OP)
It's probably Mary

>>717476957
I believe one of the bullshit "brand-damaging" shit is kemonomimi (yes, seriously)
which is why I still believe the combination of Nekopara and BA was the kidney stone lodged inside VISA/MC's urethra

>>717482073
It's even more worse than that: Visa and Mastercard threaten payment processors and financial institutions to shut down credit card access, and those in turn threaten their business partners with this shit and master card gets away with it since they're not actually the ones threatening businesses

>>717482557
Technically it's "bestiality", however they seem to have a very loose definition of what counts

>>717474410
Alright alright I'll give you a (you) because I feel bad that everyone hates you lol

>>717482641
We now know who the true mastermind is now for the payment processor pressure campaign against anime, violent games and porn. The conservative christian group is just a cover for Russ Vought, a co-writer for Project 2025, Director of the United States Office of Management and Budget, AND Acting Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

This man has already publicly stated his desire to have pornographic content, violent video games, and other types of content "harmful to children", banned from the internet.

In a two minute clip posted on YouTube by The Intercept the following transcript, highlighted in yellow, shows his intended starting point (start with children), and then he cuts himself off from explaining the next part of the plan, of violent video games, etc, as that route had failed twice already in the past few decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noIS9lmR0Y

Now, in his position in the CFPB, he has ultimate authority over payment providers and banks, and he has likely been abusing this power to strong-arm changes in these privately owned businesses regarding content he specifically had shown his distaste and hatred towards previously. All clearly telegraphed before hand, many years ago.

>>717481640
It depends if it's a port or not.
Ports of eroge are obviously censored since consoles don't allow porn(except western shit) to be released on them.
On the other hand Entergram's OWN works are released without any censorship since they only release Cero D and down games. So while you'll get sexy CGs you won't get any actual sex scenes.
SeiKano is an Entergram original work so it'll just be a full pack of each game with their relevant update patches likely included. So no censorship. The games are fully released already so it's just a pack of all 4 games. It's no different from purchasing each of the 4 works individually(aside from price).

>>717482167
>current year
>optical drives have become all but obsolete
>everyone sends files seamlessly via the internet instead
>there are countless online stores available to list your products
>forced to send games via snail mail anyway because service providers have declared that your perfectly legal game "generates reputional risk for the company" or some other bullshit non-excuse
what happened? sklhow did things get so dire

>>717483289
Wait until the government requires you to have a license to make games or starts scanning everyone's emails and messages "to find CP"

>>717480447
I think it should since this SHOULD be the international release. My copy from when the game launched last year is JP only. This SHOULD be translated. Similar case to Aquarium which launched JP only and then came across in English a while later.

>>717482825
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Vought

>He has stated in Project 2025 that his final goal is to "bend or break the bureaucracy to the presidential will" and use it to send power from Washington D.C back to America's families, churches, local governments and states. He has said that he wants to "traumatize" federal employees and hates their work.

The guy is straight up authoritarian, and basically wants the US to become the Christian version of Sharia states

Of course it's all to "give the power back to the people", people meaning the republican party in his case

>>717474352 (OP)
>literally just a cute catgirl
>payment processors are still being complete niggers
I think those anons who were saying this is partially about removing Eastern competition in the entertainment industry were right.

>>717483751
It's kind of weird how people this openly malevolent walk around and literally no-one touches them in any way.

>>717481346
>7-8 years
It literally started 3 years ago with pornhub and didn't make its way to steam until a few months ago

Why don't VN makers just make their characters look a little older? Make them clearly look older than a middle schooler. Only pedofilth will care, problem solved.

>>717484983
Payment processor shit started in 2022 but the root cause is FOSTA in 2018, which gave way for criminal liability and gave way for government to pressure payment processors

>>717483464
>oi, you got a coding licence wanker?
absolutely dystopian

>>717485071
that's an arbitrary metric
applied to a completely fictional artstyle encompassing even more artstyles

>>717485134
japanese games have been under attack for way longer than that, revisionist cunt. remember shitny's censorship crusade?

>>717485315
I'm talking about the legal stuff here, 2018 was the tipping point

Of course people were up in arms way before

>>717474352 (OP)
What we're going to need is a method to work around the payment processors. Points are one but I feel they'll go after that eventually.
It'd need to be completely removed and disassociated with the game making money but STILL be able to make money.
Think of it like an inverse Collectors Edition. Buy something and get a free game with your order. That something then JUST SO HAPPENS to be the same price the game would be. Since no money's going towards the game the payment processors only see you paying for an acrylic stand or something. It'll only work for complete games though.
>inb4 why not Patreon or something
I have a feeling that'll be next, the idea of not paying for something in particular as a workaround sounds like it'll be sooner than later. This method while a touch pricier requires a physical good to be sold that is entirely above board. You take a small hit thanks to manufacturing costs but this would solve two problems
>1. The payment processor issue since you're only paying for a random trinket
>2. You could make games that go against "Global standards" and ratings boards since you aren't selling a game. It's a free game(with the purchase of a trinket).

>>717485071
pedo-kun, if you truly cared about exploited children you'd be demanding that the pedos in the government release the epstein files instead of campaigning for the ban of drawings
we all know digital IDs and online age verification and payment processor fuckery are just there to distract the public and throw law enforcement and the media off their scent

>>717474352 (OP)
Of course it's the faggot credit cards. Still not buying amerimutt dog slop.

>>717485071
Because we know already where that's going. The fact that anime girls look youthful and attractive in comparison to the ugly androgenized manjaws that get pushed in pozzed western games to make roasties and trannies feel better about themselves is core to its appeal.

>>717482001
This is one of the store exclusive DLC costumes for the Switch version too

>>717485493
No, what you need is payment processors and card networks to be treated the same way as cash. In other words, make them common carriers and remove their ability to take action in the name of "brand/reputation protection". There's already a bill sitting in the House and Senate in America that leans strongly towards that direction.

>>717485960
I'd much rather have a way to pay that cuts off useless middlemen
in europe you can transfer money to any number without relying on the card kikes

>>717474352 (OP)
Simps BTFO
Ha

>>717485768
God, remember all the feminist screeching over that Red Cross ad featuring Uzaki? Fucking hell. She's not even doing anything provocative. It's insane how there's this never ending torrent of retarded bullshit coming from stupid women and even stupider men.

>>717485960
I was thinking of a method that a normal person with no government outreach could accomplish. I do have some faith in the burgers but even then their Senators(on both sides) are pushing for the kind of shit we're suffering through right now. It'd be great if that happens but would it apply on an international scale?
This is a method that can work within the confines of our existing system in the event the burgers fail.

>>717486407
>would it apply on an international scale?
Both VISA and Mastercard are headquartered in America, so they must abide American laws. America is also one of the largest markets in the world and it would be stupid, spiteful and self-destructive for them to pull out of America just so they don't have to process transactions for anime games.

>>717474352 (OP)
Based Visa. Total vtumor death.

>>717486569
>America is also one of the largest markets in the world and it would be stupid, spiteful and self-destructive for them to pull out of America just so they don't have to process transactions for anime games
No I meant the inverse. They ONLY apply the law to America and other approved entities while being spiteful to Japanese companies and holding them to the old law as an example.

>>717486750
That would give the Japanese companies grounds to sue if VISA/Mastercard couldn't prove it wasn't for "muh brand/reputation".

>>717486865
Well in that case I pray the burgers don't fuck up and can push it through so we can leave this shit behind us.

>>717486949
I'd like to post the bill(s) itself and tell people to support it, but jannies are being niggers.

>>717474352 (OP)
STOP. FUCKING. JUSTIFYING. THE. CENSORSHIP.

>okazu is too sexo for steam
but of course

>>717488897
it's the belly isn't it

>>717485071
>why don't you just cave in to arbitrary demands
Yeah, gee, its almost as if the goalposts won't move.
Look at what we are dealing with in the real world. Women with small breasts are deemed pedophilia, and women with large breasts are unrealistic standards.
The reason given is always a made up BS reason. Its literally just groups of people who want to destroy things. You will never be able to satisfy them.

>>717488897
stupid sexy catto

>>717485071
>JUST SUBMIT TO UGLY FEMCELS MAD THAT FICTIONAL CHARACTERS ARE HOTTER THAN THEM
no.
>I made them older
>but their face still looks too young
>Ok we made the face look older and now she looks like she's pushing 60
>The features are still too nice, make her look more physically disabled
>Too thin make her morbidly obese
>Add stretch marks
>Add vitiligo
>make her a tranny
>make her personality repulsive like some obnoxious bitch feminist on twitter
>And after everything is said and done we end up with something like this(without Ruckus' personality) instead of something aesthetically pleasing.
Why should we capitulate to their demands?

>>717474352 (OP)
No explicit content and the character isn't depicted as underage. What excuse do they have?

>>717485071
Why don't you just kill yourself?

This literally just released on Steam today by the way.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3606830/Life_in_The_Janitors_Room_with_A_JK_Girl/

Might just be an actual problem with the PC build.

>>717493307
Bro, they fucking hate anything that is different.
It has been this way since soccer moms went against music.
The goalposts will continue moving and they will never be satisfied with anime either.
>this character is underaged BAN
>this character LOOKS too young BAN
>this characters breasts are small appealing to pedos BAN
>this characters breasts are too big sexualizing women BAN
>this character is dressed in skimpy clothing BAN
>this character is portrayed too much as a trad wife appealing to literal nazis BAN
There will always be an excuse, even if there is no legitimacy behind it.

>>717493446
>unironic hentai about a highachool girl wear a UNIFORM

wew

>>717477368
>>Meanwhile 18+ western games are handled with kids gloves unless its super blatant stuff like No Mercy
I was going to ask if you're stupid but you're a frognigger so it's obvious.
Most of the games that were hit recently were wegs.

>>717485134
>>717485315
pretty sure VISA/Master threatened to ban all Patreon unless they ban all critics of muh muslims. 8 years ago. not sure about animes on Patreon

VISA/Master are commie muslims, but somehow that fullretarded wikipedia commie spammer here kept saying "IT'S PROJECT 2025 GAIZ! IS HAPPENING! WE BEING GENOCIDED BY REPUBS!!!" and samefagging himself.

>>717493832
Wegs and Jap games

If anything the ones that escaped unscathed where chink and taiwanese porn games

(((payment processors)))
meanwhile ((()))s are literally raping children

>>717474352 (OP)
Was it too ecchi for them or is it a straight H-game?

>>717493983
>>717493832
they banned western horror game though? you nincompoops cherrypick for all the wrong reasons.
if the corpos come for the gamers and their games, you must destroy them. there is not alternative. no excuse.

>>717494086
>>717477368
>>Meanwhile 18+ western games are handled with kids gloves unless its super blatant stuff like No Mercy

>>717494129
Mouthwashing and FearHunger are "super blatant" now?
you're fucking retarded.

>>717494240
Did I say that they are? It's the dumbfuck frogposter who said it.

>>717477368
>I'm noticing
Seems like a lot of people are. More than they'd like which is why all this shit with collective shout/visa/OFCOM/online ID and worldwide intetnet censorship is getting poured on all at once.

>>717493525
it's called height of consent and face of consent you bigot!

>>717476729
this one is erotic. there is soft sex stuff in it.

>>717494936
What do you mean soft sex its on the switch

>>717495092
it's implied she literally jerks you off in one of the scenes

>>717496050
implies jerking off?
egads
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2255970/Nachtsama_is_quitting_being_the_demon_king/

>>717493446
Gaben, explain yourself

>>717483751
People like this always have massive skeletons in their closet.

>>717493446
>steam is still just letting games like this through despite payment payment processor kikery
Gaben-sama, I kneel.

>>717497250
It's always some fucking neurotic busybody who doesn't see the irony in having to close off power structures that are supposed to be open by design so that its true and destined chosen are the only ones to get in.

And it's always "for the children."

Test

>>717474352 (OP)
I feel bad for the devs
First Aqua graduates
Now this

>>717497250
I wonder if that rat is on the list.

>>717482717
They’re trying to cover their bases, the actual rule is supposed to be “no content that is appealing to heterosexual neurotypical males” but they can’t say that outright, and if they allow “furries” they run the risk of people just slapping on animal ears to cute girls