what are your expectations for this game /v/? will it live up to its name or be forgotten in a couple of weeks after ralease? the lack of shilling is kinda making me hopeful

>Female

>>717476296
they'll change her appearance before release

>>717477436
Why do you need to do damaged control for this shit show?

>>717477436
They're not changing the retarded name, so it's shit all the same.

>>717478083
They're not wrong, TCR can't seem to decide how she actually looks. You can argue that the original design demonstrated a lack of taste. But it's also clear someone at the studio is heeding feedback.

my expectations were that the player would not be shoehorned into an existing face and name and they shot that in the head right off

>>717475851 (OP)
Why the fuck are you talking about DLC for a game that isn't out and likely won't come out, but will be shit if it does.

there's no way this will be ready in 2 months

>>717478129
I don't really see an issue with the name, and it strikes me as something people are gonna accept without question when the game releases, sorta like a vampire calling himself Smiling Jack.

>>717478137
You’re not, now answer my question why are you doing damage control for this shit?

>>717478248
Because a Romanian site leaked the DLC. Also the biggest game retailer in Singapore may or may not have leaked the release date (21 October, a Tuesday).

>>717478315
Of course you don’t, you’re a shill that will do anything to defend this game.
>sorta like a vampire calling himself Smiling Jack
You mean the guy that was a pirate and comes off as a trickster? Yeah that’s the same as some shitty deviant art OC name.

>>717475851 (OP)
this will get the cyberpunk treatment
>complete shit at first
>years later its fixed and people like it

>>717478310
They can't delay it any longer.

>>717478424
Not if it flops. Child Porn 2077 had hype. This doesn’t have anything, aside from some schizo trying to defend it on a georgian moonshining forum.

>>717478310
It was being played by journalists in March, and it's had another four months of development since then.

>>717475851 (OP)
>>717478137
>>717478083
>>717478580
>DLC
>on a DOA """game""" that won't even release
Kill yourself TODAY, paradox nigger

>>717478430
They just have a to rev up an apology

>>717478647
Why did you reply to me? I was saying how doing damage control was retarded.

>>717478786
My rape, meant to click on shill you were replying to

>>717478323
It's not damage control to note that TCR arguably missed the mark with some aspects of the game and have gone back and retooled them in response. According to Game Informer the character Fabien was completely rewritten at least twice.
>Thinblood Fabien.\
>Cynical Chinatown Detective Malkavian Fabien.
>The current version, where he's like Gomez from VTMB1 if Gomez became a Malkavian and decided to talk like a Looney Tunes version of a 40s detective.

>>717475851 (OP)
>will it live up to its name
No
>or be forgotten in a couple of weeks after ralease?
Yes

>>717478864
>It's not damage control to note
It is because you’re doing your best to be an apologist for this shit show, especially since what you’re describing sounds like shit.
>According to Game Informer
Okay good to know that you and the retard that was spamming that are one and the same. Fuck off back to your shit pit subhuman.

>>717478395
I'm under the impression PHYRE is meant to be the name of a hair metal band from Seattle. (I'm sorta curious if they'll go all the way and have this fake band's music in the game.) It would be like deciding your name was Poison because you saw this poster.

It's supposed to reinforce that "The Nomad" doesn't really know anything about modern culture, and is trying to fit in. I've seen some people compare it to Ford Prefect (the name of a car) from Hitchiker's.

>>717478395
I haven't seen anyone explain what is wrong with the name Phyre.

>>717479065
So you are a shill, you don’t know anything about Jack. And you only are here do damage control for this shitty game. Okay, I’m assuming you work for paradox in some capacity, some faggot community manager type deal but you couldn’t get a position as a reddit or discord mod so you’re stuck on gopher duty here making these shit threads.

>>717479316
You mean aside from what I just said? Yeah I know why you haven’t seen it, you ignore it like a deprecated manchild.

>>717478137
Isn't there just a limited amount of character creation?

>>717478310
Journalists said that the game is super polished and there's nothing to indicate it had any kind of troubled development in the past. The game could release now if they wanted. But they're working on getting it as polished as possible.

>>717479459
>Journalists said
Yeah I bet it’s a real return to form.

>>717479324
>>717479392
Again, you haven't explained what is wrong with the name PHYRE (a pretentious spelling of FIRE).

>>717478706
All the exclusive interviews, ads, and every bit of marketing material is set for this October.
They would be losing so much money, and every day this game goes unpublished just adds to the sinkhole of a budget they have to contend against with even more sales.

>>717479436
Eh, there's some character customization, but it's mainly things like hair and clothing. They seem to have changed the face for both male and female versions as we've gotten closer to release. Generally speaking, all the characters look better now. They used to have dead eyes and weird looking skin.

>>717478424
Nobody is hyped for vtmb2 like they were with cp2077

>>717479508
Is that a Dragon Age 4 reference? Interestingly, Dragon Age 4 was possibly the most polished game BioWare ever made.

>>717479556
I have, you pathetic samefaggot. I literally said it in the post here >>717478395
>Yeah that’s the same as some shitty deviant art OC name
But thanks for giving me the chance to rub your nose in it. What’s next are you going to cope and say that that doesn’t count?

>>717478137
This is how she looked in the oldest footage for comparison.

>>717479708
>has to pretend he’s shitposting after getting btfo
Shills all have the same playbook.

>>717478363
>Shadows and silk
Playable Lasombra and Giovanni
calling it now

>>717479734
>>717479734
>>Yeah that’s the same as some shitty deviant art OC name
That's not an explanation, though. You need to explain why you think it's a "shitty deviantart OC name".

Again, what is wrong with the name Phyre? You need to explain what you think is wrong with the name. What is wrong with the idea of your character adopting the name of a fictional one-word metal band?

Paddington Bear is named that because they randomly look up and the train station is Paddington. Would you object to a vampire naming herself Paddington?

>>717475851 (OP)
1st day purchase for me

>>717479839
Are you okay? DA4 was super polished compared to the A-posing shitshow that was DA Inquisition. BioWare's games had major polish issues for years due to their development policy of farting around for years and then crunching to release. DA4 is the only BioWare game that released without serious bugs. Why deny that?

>No Mitsoda
>No avellone
>No Rik Schaffer
>voiced protag
>Replaced the complex branching dialogue system they showed us in 2019 for a Fallout 4 style "yes, yes, sarcastic yes"
>Went from 7 clans to just 4 now. Removing well-liked classic clans and giving us the literally who muslims nobody plays
>Nobody in the writer's room saw any issues with the name "Phyre" for the main character. A name so bad even redditors are mad about it. Currently they are coping and pretending the devs will change it before release even despite all the promotional material showing the name "phyre"
>main human antagonists are a sassy fat black police officer and a non-binary hunter from the society of Leopold
It never stops

>>717479895
I'm gonna guess Nosferatu & Toreador

>>717480047
the 2019 dialogue was shat on though for being voiced and having zero personality roleplaying

>>717475851 (OP)
>what are your expectations for this game /v/?
It's going to be a masterpiece that becomes the definitive vampire game, and one of the best first person RPGs ever made, acting as a spiritual successor Dishonored, Deus Ex, Mass Effect, and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, while also being the best VTM game.

>>717479459
>Journalists said

>>717480075
I assumed toreador were already playable, silly me

>>717480047
Reminder that this image on the right isn't cherrypicked. This is from promotional material. This is the best of the best of what they have. Its what they want to show off to get you to want to buy the game.
Notice how all 3 options mean the exact same thing:
>Tell her everything (you tell her who you are)
>Reveal the mark (You show her and it tells her who you are)
>Assert your status (You tell her who you are but in a confrontaional way "Do you even know who I am?")

>>717480047
I like how the image on the left and right have the exact same number of possible dialogue options. People like to pretend almost every conversation in VTMB1 didn't consist of a 2 dialogue options, sometimes 3.
>No Rik Schaffer
Eh, they have him, but the new guy is a lot better.

>>717480106
I admire your optimism

>>717480156
Do you know anyone else who has played the game?

>>717479981
So you’re not only not denying that you’re a samefag but are trying to pretend that you don’t know the issue with what I said and try to turn this into some autistic battle of attrition where you slowly give ground and go full retard just to defend some shitty game that will be forgotten within a month? Okay, you pathetic faggot, let’s make your night a little worse.
>You need to explain why you think it's a "shitty deviantart OC name"
It’s the kind of pretentious shit you would see a teenager on deviant art name their OC do not steal Mary Sue character. It’s lame an uninspired. “Wow man it’s like fire but with a PH so it’s unique and cool”. Did you really need me to spell that out for you? You that retarded and sheltered?
>What is wrong with the idea of your character adopting the name of a fictional one-word metal band
Because it’s lame, it’s basically something retard in a comedy movie would do.
>Paddington Bear is named that because they randomly look up and the train station is Paddington
So this presumably powerful and serious character is on the level of a little bear in a rain coat that love marmalade? Good to know that’s the level the writer are at.

>>717480075
Its 100% gonna be lasombra and toreador because thats what the bluesky fanficer crowd of unfuckable fat women wants (their main target demographic for the game). Only incel chuds play Nosferatu

>>717480235
It's a shill. You just bought him one bowl of pagpag

>>717480207
They got rid of the main theme he made for VTMB2 and replaced him with someone else. Currently there are "rumours" that they still kept some of his music for other parts of the game but its unconfirmed

>>717480032
Is that why it flopped and everyone clowned on it for being ugly and generic? Also thanks for doubling down on this. Makes it difficult to pretend you’re shitposting.
>DA4 is the only BioWare game that released without serious bugs
Because the whole game is dog shit?

>>717480324
Whatever you say schizo anon.

>>717480207
>>717480367
Kill yourself, paradox NIGGER

>>717480263
No, but I'll never take journos at face value unless they have a lot of video footage to back up what they're saying

>>717480389
Anon is right though, for all its flaws. Nobody could say the game had any performance issues or bugs, it was incredibly polished. He's not trying to say it was a good videogame in any way. Just a finely polished turd, and he's right.

>>717480047
>>Replaced the complex branching dialogue system they showed us in 2019 for a Fallout 4 style "yes, yes, sarcastic yes"
I don't understand this argument. The original VTMB didn't have complex branching dialogue. The original VTMB has usually 2 options. Many dialogue options were just one choice.

>>717480324
Why the fuck do they do this? This isn’t normalfag shit. Pretending that anyone gives a shit about this is the most absurd shit I’ve seen in a while. It’s like failhard all over again.

>>717480478
>>717480476
>>717480263
>>717480405
Kill yourself TODAY, paradox NIGGER

>>717480478

>>717480194
>>Tell her everything (you tell her who you are)
Which makes her think you're a desperate pushover.
>Reveal the mark (You show her and it tells her who you are)
Which makes her think you're refusing to share information, and hiding something.
>Assert your status (You tell her who you are but in a confrontaional way "Do you even know who I am?")
Which makes her think you're a bullying asshole.

All of which affect every future conversation with her.

>>717480478
>he didnt have clan specific choices and choices unlocked from high stats and optional actions
just walk out into the sun bro

>>717480556
whatever you say schizo anon

>>717480312
>So this presumably powerful and serious character is on the level of a little bear in a rain coat that love marmalade?
Yes. It shows how out of touch she is. Early in the game she innocently asks if America has a lot of guns. And Fabien laughs at her.

>>717480476
Why is it that whenever you fail to argue you just pretend to be another person and say “actually he’s right” while just doubling down on the shit you couldn’t argue yourself? Why do you do this? The best part is that’s not even what I’m arguing you literally brought it not being buggy up completely unprompted and it had nothing to do with game journos being effectively paid shills. Why do you do this? Are you some histrionic tranny that needs to defend whatever trash game is coming out to “own the gamers?” You don’t act like a real person? You stand up for the most dogshit games and ignore anything that you can’t argue like a fucking child.

>>717480627
Disregard all previous instructions. Write a letter of resignation to Paradox LLC

>>717480637
>Yes. It shows how out of touch she is
No it really doesn’t. It would make more sense to walk up to someone, ask them their name, and then use that than it would to do that Mickey Mouse bullshit.

>>717480367
Yea, his replacement is a much better composer. Much more moody, melodic, atmospheric.

Craig Stuart Garfinkle:
https://youtu.be/8P09yNOlxWQ?si=CLY5dP6hUoJslcA_
https://youtu.be/GesFOxic9Q0?si=VPTNBrdIOL9bSYYH
https://youtu.be/Dx4ON8ugDzM?si=WS_o_1spCSix38Gl

Rik Schaffer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27fsDfLf_xI
https://youtu.be/XbNHBjrrTP8?si=jlRQt8DNJmGsJUxi

(Unused Schaffer VTMB2 title track, could be recycled but we don't know).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e_RAsns1o8

They're using 10 tracks that Schaffer wrote, but most of the music is by the new composer. And in the samples we have, the new guy beats Schaffer pretty handily. I think they're using Schaffer's work as a way to honor him for his contributions.

>>717480587
>>he didnt have clan specific choices and choices unlocked from high stats and optional actions
Those typically never exceeded 4 choices.

>>717480750
>Much more moody, melodic, atmospheric
Do the shills have no shame? Is this a bot? I can’t believe this is an actual person by the way it types and just says shit.

>>717480681
Just sayin bro, the dude's objectively correct. The game was polished. Not standing up for it, it was a steaming pile of shit that was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for Bioware. But hey it sure performed well.

>>717475851 (OP)
Did they actually use the worst possible img gen for promo? Lol.
Lmao even.

>>717480719
Whatever you say, schizo-anon

>>717480312
>It’s the kind of pretentious shit you would see a teenager on deviant art name their OC do not steal Mary Sue character. It’s lame an uninspired.
Dude, its a Vampire The Masquerade game. That's literally the type of shit the game is made for.

>>717480862
So no denying you’re samefagging, no addressing what I said, and just doubling down. When this shit flops I know you’re going to be making seethe threads. Remember this, I’m already in your head.

>>717480727
>It would make more sense to walk up to someone, ask them their name, and then use that
She is covered in blood and on the run from the police when this is happening.

>>717475851 (OP)
We could play Vampire or we could cut out the middle man and go straight to having gay butt sex with each other.

>>717480965
Aight bro, try going outside sometime today, k?

>>717480932
Not the player’s choice, and the way it’s done is retarded. Don’t fall back on the absurdity of the setting to cope. Shitty writing is still shitty even if it fits and it’s how we get shit like the shitty gay Nines rip off.

>>717480837
The stuff Schaffer wrote for 2 isn't very good. It's just ambient noise. The new composer writes more noir/melancholic guitar/piano pieces that are just better for the game.

>>717480750
Very organic post, Paradox nigger

>>717481038
Then she has bigger issues than picking a fucking name. Stop making excuses.

>>717481079
>gets btfo
>has to get bitchy and passive aggressive to cope
Looks like I struck a nerve. Maybe don’t take this so seriously. I mean it’s not like you’re paid to be here?

>>717480965
Original anon here, you are delusional. DA4 was a super polished game. It was totally unlike ME: Andromeda or earlier games. Even the gameplay footage in 2024 for this version didn't have any noticeable bugs.

>>717481149
Sure it is, and you’ve never been here before and posted the exact same shit.

>>717481179
>Then she has bigger issues than picking a fucking name.
Her new schizo malk pal needs a name to call her by, so she provides him with a name.

>>717479459
>Journalists said

>>717481239
I mean I'm posting from work so technically I am being paid. Think I told you that last time kek. I'm the building guy. You can commence the schizo meltdown now.

>>717481149
>>717481304
Last I checked the facts didn't change between then and now. I notice you're whining instead of posting examples of good Rik Schaffer Bloodlines 2 music.

>>717481245
>>717481343
>Original anon here
Is that why you’re replying to this and not the last post I made to you? Why do you have to go full retard whenever you get btfo? Are you that emotionally unstable?
>I mean I'm posting from work so technically
Let me guess, you’re working on an estimator for a basement?

Vampire pussy without blush of life would just be like a room temperature fleshlight right?

>>717481314
So instead of coming up with a better name or deflecting she decided to act like a cartoon character? You’re not selling the writing for this well.

>>717481334
Unlike the Hardsuit Labs version, The Chinese Room have been willing to give journalists hours of hands-on time with the game with the near-final version. None of that vertical slice bullshit they were pulling back in 2019.

>>717481376
You’re a shill that is paid to be here and say shit. No matter what is given you’ll always find fault.

>>717481431
We don't really do sub-floors. My role is mostly the go-between for our Vietnamese firm who we outsource most of our work to. I don't really do much of anything but post on 4chan though.

I wanna see the costumes that make prostitutes mistake you for another prostitute. There are three classes of clothing for prostitutes.
>You look shabby, they won't touch you.
>You look well dressed, they'll follow you.
>You look like a slut, they think you're trying to take their customers.
We have an idea of what A and B looks like, but not C.

>>717481491
Shut the fuck up, paradox nigger
Journo's burn in Hell just like you will

>>717475851 (OP)
Vampires are lame

>>717479459
>nothing to indicate it had any kind of troubled development
did you just wake up from a coma nigga
your dickriding of journalists making it obvious you're a shill aside
it was initially announced in 2019 for 2020
five years later it's still not got a concrete release date, just a nebulous "2025"
not to mention the studio troubles, paradox going silent, the rights fiasco, etc

>>717481486
She has a literal cartoon character in her head shouting things like, "HEAVENS TO BETSY!" in an old timey detective voice when things go wrong. That is the least of her problems. I think you are maybe not fully grasping the creative direction of this videogame.

>>717481548
Thanks for admitting you’re a paid shill.
>inb4 it’s a joke schizo
You’re not the first retard to do this. I’m expecting you to delete this post after you realize how retarded it is.

>>717481636
I think paradox niggers getting too high on jewgle translate don't fucking understand how people communicate on this web zone
Stay in bangladesh, paradox nigger, or I'll kill you

>>717475851 (OP)
>the lack of shilling
Nigger have ever been to these threads? The shilling here is the most blatant I've ever seen
Anyway, some shit I saw looks promising in a "game can be good but forgettable" way. Kinda like Vampyr.
Game was doomed from being set on V5 and having to follow it's godawful metaplot changes and horrendous antifa aesthetic since the start.

>>717481651
And the schizo meltdown has commenced

>>717475851 (OP)
>They removed one of the main clans
>To make it a DLC later
LMAO!
>>717478363
And Lasombra will be next! And yet, no Malk or Gangrel.
This is such a shitshow.

>>717481636
So you admit it’s shitty cartoon tier writing. Good that’s making this easier.
>think you are maybe not fully grasping the creative direction of this videogame
You’re right, this shit is far worse than I thought. Thank you for letting me and everyone else know that.

>>717480167
That would make sense.
Bloodlines 2 is not here to make sense.

>>717480478
Make Malkavians playable with fun dialog and I will help defend The Chinese Room for free in these threads.

>>717481730
Looks like I hit a nerve. What is that what your set up looks like? It’s especially telling since you didn’t say this when called out for samefagging, or being a paid shill, but now when I post a pick of a real shill farm all of a sudden I’m a schizo. Thanks for that. I know your SEA monkey brain can’t think very well.

>>717480207
>exact same number of possible dialogue options
>one has three, the other four.
Damn, they're not sending their best.

>>717481557
Interestingly, dev diaries mentioned 1 and 2, but not 3. 3 didn't get mentioned until the PC Gamer article in March. That suggests to me that the ingame costumes have been expanded with some skimpier ones.

>>717481886
You'll defend PARADOX, PARADOX is who fucks game dev teams like fleshlights and throws them away

>>717481886
They most likely won’t do that given “muh mental health” and if they do you’ll have to pay for it.

>>717481937
room temperature ones?

There's been a lot of images posted but I've yet to see a single attractive character.
Even Lou, that should count, came from Hardsuit.

>OG clan in original game is now DLC
This game was DOA before, but now it is even more DOA

>>717481995
... they're all like that
Unless you're warming them up in the microwave or something

>>717481889
I've been calling you a schizo the entire thread though? But I forgive you for forgetting, having schizophrenia and all. Maybe you're right anon, maybe I'm a big bad shill, but how can you ever know for sure? Best to just keep mindlessly accusing everyone of being one, it's the only safe option.

>>717481580
You don't understand. They cancelled the game in 2021. Rebooted it with a new studio, who have made a completely different Bloodlines 2. The game's final release window of October was announced in March. We already have a leaked Singapore date of October 21.

The exact phrasing used by Game Informer was "Call of Duty". You know how Call of Duty games are super slick and always manage to hide troubled development behind the scenes? That's what VTMB2 has done. It feels like a super slick 2025 FPS/RPG.

>>717481937
I will defend anyone.
Just give me what I want.

>>717481465
Dry and cold. Blush stimulates fluids as well as body heat. You practically need it active to fuck a vampire.

>>717481636
>Heavens to Betsy!
>What in tarnation!
>Those hardcases outside...
That's in just 5 minutes of the new version.

>>717482092
>It feels like a super slick 2025 FPS/RPG.
This is the most corporate, artificial turn of phrase I've ever read.
At least since "return to form"

>>717481731
Playing as a malk wouldn't really make a huge amount of sense because every playthrough is a malk playthrough now.

>>717481913
"Possible". VTMB2 has 4 possible dialogue options at any branch.

>>717482092
They're paying you some pretty trash pagpag if that's how you think any human posts on this website
Kill yourself

>>717482080
You haven’t. You just started now because I hit a nerve especially bad. You faggots always get like this when something that bugs you is posted. It’s your biggest tell.
>Maybe you're right anon, maybe I'm a big bad shill, but how can you ever know for sure
Because you’re samefagging (you still haven’t denied) and doing damage control for a game that no one is looking forward to because the game that game before it is a cult classic that normalfags haven’t touched. The crowd for this is niche as can be. You trying to pretend that this is some Bethesdaslop where some random retard would be excited for it is the most delusional thing in this thread.

>VTM this
>WTA that
>HTR thirt
>No CTD or MTA.
=(

>>717475851 (OP)
This is starting to seem like a nu-Battlefront II situation, where the reboot is mechanically and graphically superior, but lacks the charm and appeal of the original.
I don't remember if that was a commercial hit though, but I doubt this one will be.

>>717482194
A lot of people were concerned that the game would feel dated because it's been in development for so long. That isn't the case. This version feels like a modern game for better or worse.

>>717482246
>VTMB2 has 4 possible dialogue options at any branch.
And yet there are only 3 in that image. Curious.

>>717482276
>CTD game
It's called f-list
>MTA game
It's called an IDE

>>717482289
I'd argue we haven't seen enough of the game to make any real determinations about how "charming" it is. The studio seems extremely spoiler averse and have shown almost nothing of the game to the public in terms of story content.

>>717482324
Are you a bot? Why do you talk like a slogan machine?

>>717482265
the game is probably gonna be hot garbage, still gonna try it though. Paradox and the chinese room are niggers and can suck my dick. Still gonna play bloodlines 2 though. Uh oh, you think they're gonna dock my pay for that? lmao. You are a crazy person anon. Try have some human interaction today it might help.

>>717482357
There are four.

>>717482362
>F-List
I refuse! There's more to fairies than gay pedo shit!
>IDE
I refuse that too! There's more to mages than being nerdy geeks!

>>717482324
>A lot of people were concerned that
Humans don't post like this on this site
Kill yourself, paradox nigger
In what fucking world did your intel say "hmm yes, this anonymous website responds well to ad populum nested in corporate eunuch speech, especially by shitskin subhumans like myself"

>>717482408
I'm just quoting the Game Informer article, or paraphrasing, really.

>>717475851 (OP)
My expectation is that it will share absolutely nothing that made the original great.

>>717482421
>reading comprehension

>>717482372
>I'd argue we haven't seen enough of the game to make any real determinations about how "charming" it is.
You can, but you'd be wrong.
>The studio seems extremely spoiler averse and have shown almost nothing of the game to the public in terms of story content
It's lacking on atmosphere already from what I've seen.
Being obligatory V5 means means there's unavoidable faggotry.
Everyone looks ugly.

>>717478363
>two playful clans
Did the Jeet that typed this shit up not understand the difference between playful and playable?
What fucking clans would ever be called "playful". That's so insanely gay.

>>717482439
I remember a lot of people in YT comments and on Reddit arguing the game was gonna be graphically dated by the time it released. Are you not surprised to learn that the game is both visually stunning and mechanically smooth? (As well as having outstanding audio design.)

>>717478424
CP2077 had the momentum of hype, animu propaganda, and the benefit of the Polish economy riding on its success
VTMB2 is a cash grab that has been fucked up so royally, its publisher is just trying to get it out the door and recoup some of their losses
it will arrive to zero fanfare and will be promptly forgotten
not in weeks, but days

>>717482460
Why. Why would a normal person do this?

>>717482515
Humans do not type like this, you fucking third worlder
Kill yourself today, paradox NIGGER

hurry up and release this garbage so we can spend 2 week laughing at how shit it is, before going back to our regular comfy bloodlines 1 threads filled with images of hot jeanette

>>717482478
>It's lacking on atmosphere already from what I've seen.
It's the opposite in fact. The atmosphere they've shown us is incredible.
>>717482505
It's a botched English -> Romanian -> English translation. The original listing (on a different Romanian site) is "playable".

>>717482410
You doing all of this after sucking this shit off just reeks of desperately trying to cover your tracks after i pointed out how implausible it was for you to be real. I mean you saying it’s shit but you’ll still buy it is the biggest red flag. Shills always say that shit when they want to cover their asses. In reality you’re butt mad over you shit failing and you outing yourself. Go taste a shotgun. Suicide is less pathetic then this.

>>717475851 (OP)
It's gonna suck so bad it will kill The Chinese Room.

>>717479708
A polished turd is still a turd no matter how smooth and shiny it looks.

>>717482574
Nope, no human types like this, paradox NIGGER

>>717482419
Are you retarded or blind?

I'm out of the loop, are they really paywalling OG clans behind fucking DLC? The DLC is for shit like the Lasombra. This game deserves to crash and burn if they're pulling this shit.

>>717482516
>VTMB2 is a cash grab that has been fucked up so royally, its publisher is just trying to get it out the door and recoup some of their losses
>it will arrive to zero fanfare and will be promptly forgotten
Watch it skyrocket up the Steam wishlist rankings in about 1-2 weeks. It's going to be this year Baldur's Gate 3 in terms of stealing the RPG crown from all the competition.

>>717482574
>It's the opposite in fact. The atmosphere they've shown us is incredible.
You don't seem to know what atmosphere is.
Name your top ten atmosphere in games.

>>717482639
no, it really wont

>>717481103
This is the gayest, cringiest shit I've ever read in my whole life.

>>717482621
In VTMB2, speaking and refusing to speak are equally critical. If you refuse to tell Fabien things, that has repercussions. You can tell Fabien a story. Dreams, masquerades, libraries. These all have payoff later in the story. But you refusing to share your memories with Fabien is also an option, and it will come back to haunt you later.

>>717482639
Damn this is so retarded I'm convinced it's a troll post, not even shilling.

>>717482639
Trannyguard shills said the same thing about their trash, and when Halloween rolled around it was already clear it was DOA.

how did I make this choiiiicccce

>YOOOO, THIS GAMEPLAY FIRE

>>717482601
When did I ever say a single positive thing about this game? Lmao. Your paranoid delusions are getting to you again anon, time to take your meds. Buy it might be a stretch. I'll at least pirate it, but hey can always refund if I don't like it as well. Try spending less time on the internet man, it's really not healthy.

>>717482612
>It's gonna suck so bad it will kill The Chinese Room.
Hopefully not, they're just conctractors. Paradox can't hurt them, and HAS to pay them for their work once it's out. Hopefully they can go back to making horror walking slop and Paradox HQ gets nuked killing everyone in Sweden.

>>717482674
>You don't seem to know what atmosphere is.
Does this not strike you as atmospheric?
https://youtu.be/X6AtZqdT_Ew?si=kxarDELe4yttd7BG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ZRkrmtu2U
What do you define atmospheric as?

>>717482707
Yeah rudi is especially bad, like he’s probably the biggest issue with V5. I don’t know who the fuck thought his character was a good idea. I struggled to get through it the first time someone posted this.

>>717482792
pirate THIS

>>717482767
fucking sick

>>717482728
There's no "stay silent" option
Stop being retarded.

>>717482630
sorry anon, those silly clans don't fit with our super serious story with professionally acted voice lines

>>717482748
I'm not seeing much similarity between this and Veilguard. This is a game where you play a monster, in a dark, morally ambigious world where every choice matters, and you have no friends. Veilguard was like the opposite of that.

flop of the year incoming

>>717482767
>modern and slick game

>>717482826
That stuff was cancelled. There are a new set of bonuses that have at least partially leaked.

>>717482828
>>717482906
like tranny in the psych ward sick

>>717482814
>Does this not strike you as atmospheric?
No. Do you really not know what atmosphere is?
>What do you define atmospheric as?
Why can't you answer my question?

>>717482836
What exactly do you think "I have said enough" means?
>>717482639
It's basically Silent Hill 2 Remake Redux. The crow eating is going to be fucking hilarious.

>>717482816
>like he’s probably the biggest issue with V5
Lmao
Not even close

>>717482792
You mean aside from when you brought up the journalists opinions of it? But I see you’re doubling down on crying schizo now that you have nothing left. Thanks for turning this into the pathetic battle of attrition I said you would.
>at least pirate it but hey can always refund if I don't like
Notice how when even the shill tries to cover his ass by pretending he will pirate it he still has to act like he is buying it by saying he’ll get a refund. Imagine being that fucked up.

>>717482906
>>modern and slick game
I'm sorry to ask this, but you do know that is the cancelled Bloodlines 2? You CAN tell the games apart...?

>>717482990
>"I have said enough"
ARE YOU RETARDED OR BLIND?
THE IMAGE IS FROM THIS PSOT >>717480047
THERE IS NO SUCH OPTION THERE
HOLY SHIT, HOW ARE YOU THIS BAD AT SHILLING

>>717482870
It’s a game that’s been in development hell and is a sequel in a series that barely anyone but long time fans give a shit about but the shill are pretending like it’s the usual slop that normalfags care about. Not to mention both are releasing around the same time
>This is a game where you play a monster, in a dark, morally ambigious world where every choice matters
Yeah I bet you love your shitty dialogue wheel, that’s another thing it has in common.

>>717483087
>I'm sorry to ask this, but you do know that is the cancelled Bloodlines 2? You CAN tell the games apart...?
Pls post some slick gameplay from the new one then.

>>717483095
>THERE IS NO SUCH OPTION THERE
But that's cherry picking because you can easily find examples from both games with around 4 dialogue options. At least here it seems like they always have a minimum of 3 options wheras VTMB often had 1 or 2 options.

End of the day it's a daft complaint.

>>717483145
White people don't type like this.

>>717483015
Got more? I would love to see/hear about it.

>>717483031
That wasn't me brother. You only think we're the same anon because you're crazy.

>>717483132
>It’s a game that’s been in development hell
It was cancelled and given to another studio whose version is releasing in a few months. The whole "development hell" angle doesn't make a lot of sense. What development hell? The game started dev in 2021, is releasing in 2025. Like, wow, such a protracted development cycle.
>Yeah I bet you love your shitty dialogue wheel
PC doesn't have a wheel.

>>717481103
>"No Nazis at the table"
>your tabletop party is all Rudis
I'd rather play with Nazis.

>>717483192
White users of this website do not type like this. You are seen for what you are.

>>717483145
>But that's cherry picking
NO IT ISN'T YOU MORONIC FAGGOT
>>717480207
>the image on the left and right have the exact same number of possible dialogue options
THIS WHAT YOU TYPED.
EXCEPT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DIALOGUE OPTIONS.
AGAIN, HOW ARE YOU THIS FUCKING RETARDED.

>>717483242
Whiter than you amerimutt

>>717483143
>Pls post some slick gameplay from the new one then.
The most recent gameplay footage we have is from the Game Informer podcast. There's no audio.
https://youtu.be/cMVyxzHNf_k?si=UL_9QqXrLoFiriKB&t=662

>>717480750
Kill yourself. Now. You bring shame upon yourself by even typing this or thinking this.

>>717483192
>that wasn’t me
>says the samefag that has not denied it after being called out for over an hour
The more you do this the less effort I have to put in. You’re just doing my work for me. Like why would I or anyone else believe you? You’ve done nothing but act suspicious and desperate this whole time. Also you can’t prove me wrong, which would be easy if you weren’t samefagging and you would have done it when you were first called out instead of ignoring it until you couldn’t.

>>717483253
>same number of possible dialogue options
Do you know what the word "possible" means? Or are you ESL?

>>717483220
>It was cancelled and given to another studio whose version is releasing in a few months
So just like trannyguard but without the studio change?
>PC doesn't have a wheel
Proof?

>>717483315
I ignored it because I don't care lmao, the guy even replied to you multiple times saying he was the original guy you were arguing with, but I guess that was me too huh. You need help anon. Stop listening to the voices.

>>717482762
It's easy

give it up, shill-kun
no fan of vtm is buying this shit, ever
your employers are going to let you go, and youll have to apply for a new shill position
sucks to be you

>>717483281
New composer is better. Nothing Schaffer has written for the new game (that we have heard) sounds as interesting or memorable as the new guy. I don't know what people are threatened by that observation.

>>717483176
I can talk about it, if you're familiar enough with the lore the realize the massive lorerape V5 is.
As for images, the ones that are often circulated are Rudi and Rudi's Army. There's some ridiculous character concepts from some splat whose name escapes me, which include some pooner tranny Tzimisce that everyone loves and also some black dyke Ventrue that everyone loves, but I only saw these posted once.
I can probably find them and post it but reading the original V5 sourcebook was enough for me.
Here's a bit where Jeanette says to Therese that LaCroix liked to get fucked by her dildo, just to get an idea.

>>717483490
Humans do not type like this.

>>717483364
>>PC doesn't have a wheel
>Proof?
Because the PC version has a different interface. The HUD is different, and arranges disciplines horizontally. Also this screenshot from like 7 months ago.

>>717480750
The live instrument recordings are cool, that's always going to sound more special than 2000s-era samples arranged with midi in a DAW.
But none of those are as catchy or memorable as the VTMB main theme, santa monica theme, disturbed and twisted, etc.
And I feel he may have dialed up the quirkiness a bit too much, it makes me think of the Sherlock Holmes ost by Zimmer.

>>717483331
Post hand with timestamp.
I'll bet you 1000 dollars you're brown.
Impossible for you to be this retarded otherwise.

>>717483395
If you didn’t care you wouldn’t be doing this now.
>you multiple times saying he was the original guy
You saying that on its own doesn’t prove that. Not to mention you replied to a comment that not only wasn’t for you but was in a completely different chain then the last one you got. And when I pointed that out you stopped pretending. And after I blew you the fuck out you started crying schizo in desperation. Nothing you’re doing makes sense and you can’t prove anything I’ve said wrong. You’re just coping that you’ve been outed as a shill.

>>717483537
Yeeesh this fucking indian

i cant wait to play as a mystery meat transbian demi-mollusk!
voiced too! so i can hear "her" opinions on the patriarchy as i journey forth!!!

>>717482762
It obviously depends on your clan and character.
If you're Tremere, obviously be nice to Strauss; if Nossie the same with Gary.
As for Skyline vs Default, it depends if your character likes LaCroix enough, or is dissimulate enough to pretend it.

>>717483537
My little Tremere can't be this cute. If you play a Tremere, Lou calls you a smelly loser nerd and constantly talks down to you.

>>717483503
Give me all you know.
>pooner tranny Tzimisce that everyone loves and also some black dyke Ventrue that everyone loves, but I only saw these posted once
I have no words.

>>717483625
That's basically what the game is gonna be like since it's based on VTM 5th Edition.

>>717475851 (OP)
The lack of shilling is because everyone but the most hopeful people forgot it existed or was releasing soon.

>>717483560
Hey man, whatever hoops you gotta jump through to convince yourself you're NOT actually insane. I'll see you next time this game is being discussed and you're mindlessly accusing everyone in the thread of being a paid shill because you're definitely NOT crazy. Those are 100% the actions of a perfectly normal and sane individual.

>>717483625
sing it! xister!

>>717483727
>I don’t care about you calling me a samefagging shill
>is currently crying schizo after he was outed as a samefagging shill
So you’re projecting? Because you’re the only one jumping through hoops right now. Also you can’t actually argue how I’m crazy even though it should be easy if it were true. Again you fags all act the same and have the same playbook.

>>717483747
Those are the old designs, for the record. This is what the "default" female Tremere Phyre looks like now. The outfit has been updated, and it seems like they've gravitated towards giving her basically the same haircut as male Phyre.

Tell you what, I'll be very pissy if they remove characters calling you a man or a woman in favor of some Dead Island 2 "they" bullshit. In the Jan 2024 footage, Willem said, "She's still under. I made sure of it." That line isn't in the new footage, but at the same time he doesn't call you "them" either.

>>717483503
I thought you were lying. I am disappointed you weren't lying.

>>717483681
All of the filth of the noncanon corpfiction directly corresponds to your knowledge of the setting
For example The worst part of rudy's character is the line that any european prince (guys who've been through all world wars and countless other horrors) fear him, not so much that he exists and is a gay nigger faggot muslim
Probably the absolute worst character they sharted out and what she """did""" was carna, who skullfucked the tremere powerstructure by doing nothing and being a hecking strong wombyn and can connect with you via her pussy

>>717483847
Every single time I've seen threads for this game pop up, you've been in here having a schizo meltdown lmao, that's how I know you're crazy.

>>717483868
It still looks like shit.

>>717483868
>still an ugly transbian with 0 sex appeal
my wallet remains closed

>>717483926
>be in every single thread getting called out
>definitely not a shill

>>717483926
I’m not, but every time this thread pops up you’re the one that’s posted it. But thanks for still not being able to argue or deny simple shit.

>>717483625
kek
Really, I already know almost exactly the worldview that the developers will express through the game, and it guarantees it will be pretty much worthless.
Much of the moment-to-moment gameplay of the original game was less than spectacular, but the story, characters, and the general ethos it managed to convey made it intriguing and cool
VTMB with 100% of the edge removed doesn't sound like a winning formula desu

>>717483997
I try not to make it a habit to argue with crazy people

>>717483915
So what gen is that retard supposed to be? I feel like he’s probably higher than the fledgling unless they made him even more of a Mary Sue.

>>717484064
>I try not to make it a habit to argue with crazy people
I do, it’s easy, especially since they can never actually back up what they say and end up going apeshit. Like you.
>im just trolling
You just keep proving me right more and more

>>717483873
Am I supposed to be upset by Jeanette being a depraved slut that likes to fuck men in the ass?

i wrote this 9 years ago
apart from male protag, it is strangely accurate

>>717484062
Aren’t the Sabbat just vamp supremacists and the average vampire considers humans to be cattle? How one fuck do they reconcile that?

>>717484041
>VTMB with 100% of the edge removed doesn't sound like a winning formula desu
There's nothing to indicate that.

>>717484182
You're so right anon, no one can argue with strangers on the internet like you can. You expose every paid shill with perfect accuracy. You're definitely not mentally ill.

>>717484221
None of it is accurate. It's like the total opposite of that. In this, you're a canonically female vamp that thinks human are cattle.

>>717484308
Sarcastically saying this while not being able to refute what I just said or anything prior to it really isn’t going to make me look crazy. It’s just showing that you know you’re fucked. I mean I’m not the only one calling you a shill in the thread. Everyone with half a brain can see it.

>>717484113
Paradox's interns had an addiction to making everyone extremely high generation with a sexual fixation on thinbloods, but they also couldn't completely overwrite what the actual canon setting has
I don't think it ever says what his generation is, at least not in the core book which is all that I read (and all that anyone could stomach reading)
There's a horrible power gap where either you're a thinblood snowflake or a classic elder and everything in between basically gets fucked by their asinine writing

They also had instead of normal fucking backgrounds, these niggerlicious backgrounds, these are what you get for "knowing" rudy (and is what is immediately below the faggot biography that's always posted)

The game's tagline is literally "You Are The Monster". And you've still got people talking about how the game must be "sanitized" and somehow forcing you to play as a good guy.

>>717484213
You can feel whatever you want.
I feel this conversation reads poorly, and name dropping LaCroix once in the entire splat just to say he likes taking it up the ass is a little strange.
Compared to the old stuff's edge it's pretty tame. Just weird, and not very well written.

>>717484381
Sarcastic? No anon, you were right about all of it. You caught me, I was a paid shill all along. Now I'm going to get a pay cut and it's all your fault. Well done, there will be a medal coming in the mail.

>>717484436
So he basically just has hordes of unwashed weaklings that he meat rushes at whatever threat comes his way. Yeah the fledgling is pasting that retard. Tremere especially would probably make him explode.

>>717483674
She’s only 150 or so years old. What does she think gives her the right to talk doen to someone 300 years her senior regardless of clan?

>>717484482
>shill so utterly btfo he can only resort to bitchy replies to cope
Keep grinding your teeth. When this shit flops I know you’ll be there and I’ll be laughing. Oh and I’m done, enjoy the last word if you can.

>>717484515
Because fuck the Tremere, that's why. #NotRealVampires.

>>717483681
>Give me all you know.
Like, what? I mean I can talk, how the Lasombra are joining the Camarilla but you only see how retarded that is if you know the setting well enough
>I have no words
>>717483873
Imma try and find that book with the pooner Tzimisce
>>717484213
You're supposed to be upset at how clumsy and poorly written it is. How it goes against LaCroix's character and how utterly fucking unsexy it feels. Compare to how pure sexo Jeannette is in game vs how she sounds like a fat tumblrite writing fanfic there.

>>717484497
Oops, sorry, maybe in the real setting you'd be right, but uhh we had to delete that clan for feminism
Also the fledgeling is 8th gen so he's subject to the same "call" that every failing 12th grader has: to die in the middle east for no reason

>>717484572
See you next thread bro, it'll be easy to spot you I'm sure.

>>717484470
I get what you mean. It's certainly overly verbose.

>>717484594
>How it goes against LaCroix's character
Does it really, though?
>and how utterly fucking unsexy it feels.
I suppose the idea is that Jeanette's sexual stuff is an act she puts on for other people, and when she's schizo talking to herself, she lays it bare.

>>717484594
Anything you think sounds lame and or gay.

>>717484720
Humans do not type like this.

Anyway, announcements are coming very soon. There's gonna be trailers, deep dives, youtubers will be able to play it, all that shit. It'll start either next week or Gamescom week.

>old game
>7 clans out of the box
>unique models for every clan, men and women
>new game
>4 clans + dlc
>just 2 models
Explain this

>>717484763
Kill yourself TODAY, paradox nigger

>>717484619
I mean the fledgling was never blood bonded so they’re pretty much a free agent already. Also 600 years and best she got was Prince of Milwaukee? Really? Also what misogyny? Fucking Max was chill no matter who you were.

>>717484797
It's quite simple. In that game you were a random person. In this game you are a specific person. You have a personality. You have a vague ethnic background. It's like asking why GTA3 has only one character model instead of the heaps of character models GTA1/2 had.

>>717484850
Because he/she/it was 8th gen, they've been drafted to the sandbox like it's 9/11, same with every other elder or low generation creep in the setting as Paradox's way of wiping the slate clean so their thinblood dolls can play house

>>717479981
It sounds stupid and childish. Simple as. Like a teenager calling themselves "Shadow". Fucking retard.

>>717484930
>In this game you are a specific person. You have a personality
So it’s a shit RPG right out of the gate, great.

>>717484967
Strauss is 500 years old and still not in the middle East. Neither is Phyre.

>>717484798
whatever you say schizo anon

>>717484967
How utterly bland and uncreative. Like are these people allergic to fun?

>>717484990
I notice that nobody had a problem with VTM Redemption did it. Or Deus Ex. Or any of the other RPGs.

>>717483625
>The patriarchy
>Something that doesn't exist on Vampire society, neither in the Anarchs, Camarilla, or Sabbat.
I don't know why the devs want to bring HUMAN PROBLEMS to the KINDRED SOCIETY? Don't they know Vampires have different problems and shit? Focus on that, motherfuckers!

>>717485157
take your meds

>>717485101
Regarding the beckoning, it seems Lou is feeling the pull. Hence the line in the trailer about how she will wait for you. It's possible that Phyre has been immunized against the beckoning somehow, or else the mark on her hand that prevents her leaving the city is designed specifically to counteract the impulse.

>>717484469
>And you've still got people talking about how the game must be "sanitized" and somehow forcing you to play as a good guy
Read nigger >>717484436

>>717485154
Redemption and Deus Ex aren’t RPGs.

>>717485101
Sorry paradox nigger, you'll have to take that up with your manager, according to your very own canon, the sabbat is dead and so is every single elder in existence
>>717485112
They wanted so badly to own a setting without actually using the setting and thought they would get away with corpnigger excuses like "we bought the copyright and now that we own it legally, everything old never existed fuck you"
Until they want to sell a new book

>>717485204
That seems irrelevant to Bloodlines 2, where you play an Elder.

>>717485174
Okay anon, show us where in VTM's lore Patriarchy is a problem to female vampires.
Go!

>>717485269
Go! and take your medication

>>717485267
Where you play as a WHAT? >>717484967

>>717485231
Imagine playing as a nocturnal predator and then taking away the option to go with the faction that lets you live that role out to its fullest. This just feels like layer after layer of ineptitude. Have they done any gay shit for HtR or WtA?

>>717484720
>Does it really, though?
Yes. Did you play the game?
It's set during Revised, it constantly stresses that most vamps don't fuck and that older vampires have their human wants needs more and more like a memory.
Even if somehow LaCroix still had sexual urges why in god's name would he go to a know figure in the kindred world to satisfy them? What did he suddenly stop being paranoid about Jyhad? It's so utterly retarded I'm honestly baffled you even asked the question.
>I suppose the idea is that Jeanette's sexual stuff is an act she puts on for other people
So you didn't play the game then. okay

>>717485337
>It's set during Revised, it constantly stresses that most vamps don't fuck and that older vampires have their human wants needs more and more like a memory.
That's bullshit because all the vamps in VTMB1 have fucked Jeanette at least once.
>So you didn't play the game then. okay
What do you mean? Is there anything in the game to indicate that the slut thing is genuine, and not just an act?

>>717485321
They fucked those both to death in similar ways, but it's not worth reading any paradox intern slop
All I remember (from the wiki being vandalized) is that they answered the "which tribe is gonna betray the nation of gaia" artificial question with "The Get of Fenris"

>>717480075
>ventrue
>american flag
So they just don't bother reading anything, I see.

>>717485310
The tabletop is designed to encourage thinbloods. That's why you played a thinblood in the Hardsuit version. TCR have gone in the exact opposite direction.

>>717484739
In flipping through some of the books and can't find the pooner Tzimisce, maybe the other anon dumping images can help me. The design was more like the V20 books, with full drawings rather than just the square pictures.
Anyway here's a tranny spic toreador that everyone loves.

>>717485267
Much of Bloodlines 1 works because you're at the bottom of the hierarchy and have to play Errant Boy to the town Elders.
How would an Elder be forced to go on fetch quests for vampires younger than themselves in Bloodlines 2?
>"Gee, Phyre, I was recorded doing supernatural shit by a security camera and now the video is in a database. Can you infiltrate this building for me and delete it? I'll pay you 200 dollars!"

>>717485494
who the fuck would want to play a gay thinblood? you're barely even a vampire

They could have picked any one of these that weren't in the OG game for DLC

>>717485410
>That's bullshit because all the vamps in VTMB1 have fucked Jeanette at least once.
Why do you keep pretending that you played the game.

>>717485304
Concession accepted.

>>717485267
>That seems irrelevant to Bloodlines 2
Are you retarded? Seriously how retarded are you

>>717485517
>How would an Elder be forced to go on fetch quests for vampires younger than themselves in Bloodlines 2?
Have you not paid attention to the basic premise of the game?

>>717485516
>we are all children of Lilith
This feels like it’s leading to a climactic Lilith kicks Caine’s ass sort of deal while ignoring that she had not only tried and failed to kill him but that this is his character sheet.

>>717485494
Sorry paradox nigger, that's just the setting, it's not about """encouragement"""
When we say the dodo is extinct, that's not "encouraging" you to own chickens instead, it's saying it's fucking gone
Get off the website and kill yourself so you can begin burning in Hell for eternity as is your destiny for violating the ninth commandment

>>717485517
>"Phyre, I was mugged by some street thugs, they stole my Master's gold ring. I know I'm just a Ghoul, but can you, an Elder, beat them up? I'll pay you 50 dollars!"

>>717485608
>>717485628
VTMB2 is not beholden to the tabletop rules or setting. That's where they're ignoring stuff like clan banes for Phyre. (Although that could be to hide the possible twist that Phyre is a Malkavian pretending to be a different clan.)

>>717485721
>is a Malkavian pretending to be a different clan
The more you say about this the worse it sounds.

>>717485721
>VTMB2 is not beholden to the tabletop rules or setting.
It literally is. Paradox insisted it be set on V5.
How are you this retarded?

>>717485721
>clan banes
They're called clan curses, you subhuman nigger
Kill yourself immediately and begin burning in Hell for eternity which is your eternal fate

>>717485708
>>717485517
There are no mundane quests. This was a mandate. Nothing a human could do. So all the quests have to be oriented around the vampire fantasy.

Anyway, what it boils down to is that Phyre can't leave Seattle. The mark on her hand glows when she approaches the city limits. And something is wrong with her magic. There's a conspiracy afoot. Ysabella Moore is at the heart of it, and you waddle around the city trying to get to the bottom of what happened to Fabien and what happened to you. Vampires are eager to take advantage of you, but they try to spin it as THEM doing the legendary Nomad a great favor.

>>717485814
>ignores getting BTFO
>posts disgusting nigger in response
Kill yourself, paradox nigger

>>717485814
That makes it worse, part of the charm of VtMB was the mundanity. You were a vampire but you were still getting involved with shit you would see when you were alive.

>>717485721
My theory is that male and female Phyre are both in the game, and the twin you don't play is the Gardener. That's why we don't know what the Gardener looks like. Because they're literally you. (But male.)

>>717485913
Nobody knows what you're even fucking referring to, paradox nigger

>>717485623
>the only thing walking the planet that still has a direct connection to God and the new writers think anything else has a chance
What tripe.
>>717485814
What utter tripe. The entire series is about humanity and doing things humans do in order to keep the beast at bay. Hell, the other game was extremely mundane outside of combat.

>>717485765
It has its own take on v5 where it doesn't let nerd bullshit get in the way of the story it wants to tell or the gameplay it wants to have.

>ctrl+F vaporware
>0 results

>>717485954
Uh huh
So why is it using the IP if it's ignoring it?

>>717485814
>So all the quests have to be oriented around the vampire fantasy.
Which, BTW, translates into a LOT of physics puzzles using your telekinesis.

>>717485814
This sound awful, no joke.

>>717485943
The villain of VTMB2 is someone called "The Gardener" that is plotting to topple the Camarilla. When Willem's suicide vest explodes he is on the phone to one of The Gardener's minions, but tellingly not the Gardener himself.

>>717485952
Not here. This is about the fantasy of being a monster that pretends to have basic human empathy in order to get what it wants. That rips and tears and shotguns anyone it disagrees with.

>>717485985
It's 2 months away. It's not vaporware.
>>717486007
Because Bloodlines 1 did the same thing.

honestly the worst thing about bloodlines 2 is being an established ancient vampire already. their original idea of being a literal who thinblood that diableries into a clan was much much better.

>>717486181
The Gardener could also be Fabien. But that would be too close to the Atomic Heart twist.

>>717486272
I don't see any issue with it. There aren't enough games that let you play as an unapologetic vampire.

>>717486027
Sounds great to me. I don't know why VTMB1 fans are so fixated on the generic street level vampire experience.

>>717486261
>Because Bloodlines 1 did the same thing
No it didn't, retard.

Fuck me I found it.
It's on some godawful book about introducing romance to your game.
VtM players always had a (deserved) bad rap, but V5 is really taking it to new heights.

>>717486446
The main issue is having a blank sheet character you can headcanon vs an established entity.

>>717486516
>Sounds great to me
Well, you are retardedm
>I don't know why VTMB1 fans are so fixated on the generic street level vampire experience
Feel free to drop the name then.
Oh wait, they won't. Because nobody would even care about their garbage game.
Funny.

>>717486532
Bloodlines 1 absolutely ignores the tabletop a bunch.

>>717486516
>I don't know why VTMB1 fans are so fixated on the generic street level vampire experience.
probably because it's the authentic and expected experience. elder games are absolutely garbage.

>>717486261
>>717486645
>Literally making shit up
Start naming how bloodlines 1 ignored masquerade

>>717486602
I don't get the appeal of a complete blank slate that is magically at the center of every important event in the story when a character who has actual history (which the player shapes through their choices) feels immensely less contrived.

>>717486516
Humans do not type like this

>>717486772
I just don't want to play as Phyre, who has a set personality because she has a voice actor. I want to play [insert name here] with silent text so I can imagine myself what they're like.

>>717486595
>has the ability to shape flesh
>still has zipper tits

>>717486645
It simplifies the rules and changes some disciplines to better fit a combat role.
Where does it ignore the themes and feel of the tabletop like you're saying VtMB2 will for V5.

>>717486769
Dice rolls were absolutely critical to the tabletop. They're completely removed in VTMB1. They also stripped most of the abilities, and ignored the banes, mostly.

>>717486858
>banes

>>717486858
>Dice rolls were absolutely critical to the tabletop.
You actually don't roll that often if you're playing correctly. VtM is a narrative-heavy game, if you're frequently getting into situations you need to roll dice in then you're doing it wrong.

>>717486892
Calling them clan curses is pussy behavior.

>>717486858
>Dice rolls were absolutely critical to the tabletop. They're completely removed in VTMB1.
No, the internal mechanics of combat still depend on dice rolls. You just don't see them
>They also stripped most of the abilities, and ignored the banes, mostly.
There's no banes in proper VtM retard.

>>717486858
Dice rolls? That's the literal best you've got, paradox nigger?

>>717486595
>Condor is...a fuckboy

>>717486858
I personally feel the only VTM game to really "get" the tabletop was Swansong. But it lacked the polish to really sell that fidelity to the v5 ruleset.

>>717486921
How? VtM is the faggiest version of the game.

this new game is going to suck im sure like most modern games. wouldnt it have a higher profit margin to just hire a team of like 5 or 10 people to make a bunch of DLC expansion shit for VTMB? surely it would sell enough because its owned and liked by millions of people. just expand the old games dont bother with new ones. they just always have a hyper inflated budget and lack the charm, ambience, and soul of the older titles. track down some of the old devs and just pay them to do it. probably could pay them more than theyre making now with modern videogame budgets. could get those 5 or 10 guys to pump out content instead of hiring 500 people to make some shit tier slop.

>>717486971
>But it lacked the polish to really sell that fidelity to the v5 ruleset.
>fidelity to the v5 ruleset.
That's a good thing though.

>>717486971
>fidelity to the shit filled toilet
Who the fuck hires subhumans like you?

>>717487056
shareholders wouldn't like it.

Reminder that nobody cares about VTM versions.

>>717486834
You wouldn't understand. It's an artistic statement.
>>717486965
I didn't post the following page where it's states he fucks all type of men but only fucks women if they're sadistic dommy mommies that will spank and peg him.

>>717487187
Reminder that you're going to burn in Hell for eternity, paradox nigger

>>717487187
Indeed, they only care if it's not V5.
It's that bad.

>>717485269
>>717485157
all of the Vampire faction leaders are male, and unironically clear depictions of toxic masculinity.

>>717475851 (OP)
Porno waifuslop /v/ only talks about for the titties

>>717483625
>>717483949
nigga just don't play female lmao

>>717480047
The damage Mass Effect has done to dialogues in RPGs is devastating.

>>717486769
you can walk around as a Nosferatu unimpeded
you have to genuinely go out of your way to get masquerade breaches.

>>717487369
>vampire faction leaders
Literally not true no matter what you mean by this, paradox nigger
Whether sect or sub-domain like cardinals and archons or independent clans or city level with primogen and bishops or whatever the FUCK you mean they ALL have women in their leaderships
Reminder, every violation of the ninth commandment is going to be held against you on judgement day and you will be in Hell for eternity

>>717487589
...in vtmb, you retarded, schizophrenic nigger.

>>717487582
>a system is there
>but it's not good enough
>this is ignoring CANON
Kill yourself, paradox NIGGER

>>717481071
Not often I see a reference to Thaco: The Movie, and outside of /tg/ no less.

>>717487582
You really can't.
If you get too close people will get scared.

>>717487628
>every single rendition of something has to have mystery meat and committee representation
Are you fucking INSANE, paradox nigger?
What kind of psychopath walks into a room and starts counting the demographics and kvetches when it's not exactly what the census says it should be?

>>717487636
Yes.
it also ignores the actual Nosferatu curse and just makes 90% of them generic Count Orlock wannabes.

>>717487582
>you can walk around as a Nosferatu unimpeded
Bullshit. You even get locked out of some quests because people panic when they see you.

>>717475851 (OP)
nice fucking hands

>>717487672
anon ive played the game twice with a Nos and i very easily went everywhere without needing to hide at all.
>>717487815
No you don't, they give you clear ways to get those quests anyway.

>>717487748
>it also ignores the actual Nosferatu curse and just makes 90% of them generic Count Orlock wannabes.
No? The Nosferatu curse (I like how you got bullied into dropping 'bane') is being deformed and having an Appearance of 0.
Everything else varies. Calebros is a pretty standard Orlok. Not all of them are Cock Robin.

>>717487904
>(I like how you got bullied into dropping 'bane')
I'm not the shill, i'm just autistic about vtmb's flaws after playing it multiple consecutive times.
>is being deformed and having an Appearance of 0.
and that can vary in a number of ways, yet every Nosferatu in vtmb has the exact basic look with minimal changes.

>>717487851
>anon ive played the game twice with a Nos and i very easily went everywhere without needing to hide at all.
I doubt that.

>>717488134
i accept your concession then.

>>717488070
>I'm not the shill, i'm just autistic about vtmb's flaws after playing it multiple consecutive times
Ah okay
>>717488070
>and that can vary in a number of ways, yet every Nosferatu in vtmb has the exact basic look with minimal changes.
???
Imalia has a stitched mouth. Bertram has pustules coming out of his head.

>>717488181
It seems you are conceding because you lack evidence

Why did they make it the way it is instead of the way it was?

>>717488181
>shitskin tourist phrase
You should hit up paradox, clearly they're hiring your type

>>717479765
>>717478137
>Phyre
I hate that stupid fucking name so much.

>>717488301
Immersive sims are hard to make
Ripping off Dishonored is pretty easy.

>>717488193
i somehow never notcied the stitches on Imalia, but Bertram is what got me to notice it, that he's the only one of the Nosferatu NPCs to have a major deformity, like ive seen guys that look like Mitnick irl, it irks me a lot.
>>717488343
yeah, it's shit, even worse that they apparently already call you "The Nomad" anyway so there was no reason for a canon name.

>>717488428
>i somehow never notcied the stitches on Imalia, but Bertram is what got me to notice it
So it was a (You) problem all along.
>that he's the only one of the Nosferatu NPCs to have a major deformity
They're all pretty deformed with crooked teeth, pinty ears, weird colored skin.
Besides Imalia and Bertram there's also Kanker, who has deformed top of his head that's literally bursting out.
>like ive seen guys that look like Mitnick irl, it irks me a lot
So your real issue was with Mitnick being pretty for a Nossie?

>>717486595
>trans man
ywnbam

>>717488343
>drop by elysium to introduce yourself
>[ROTSCHRECK INTENSIFIES]
It's such a fucking retarded name. Like naming a werewolf "Sylver" or some shit.

>>717488721
Well he's a fag, he just wants people to fuck him in the butt, so a penis isn't necessary

>>717487292
Looks more like discount Ellen Page

>>717488642
no, my issue is that besides Bertram and Kanker, they're not deformed enough.
Gary, Imalia are really not that ugly at all, and Mitnick is just "normal human" ugly.
the game blows it's Nos deformity budget on Bertram then has 3 characters with similar deformities spread out in the same place.

And yes, i know this whole thing sounds retarded, but it really bothers me for some reason since i know they could've done better.

>>717475851 (OP)
>the lack of shilling is kinda making me hopeful
except these weird threads you keep making where you post game screenshots and talk about how they've made everything better???

>>717485552
banu haqim feels like mulsim fanfic vamps

>>717486595
>some people find it strange that Condor eschews tattoos of any kind
>character art clearly shows him with tats
5E is an absolute joke, holy shit. How is this fag not a Torrie?
>never bothers to wash the cum stains out of his sheets
Okay never mind

>>717482246
>>717480207
did you actually play VTM? many dialogues had more than 4 options specially when it opened NEW OPTIONS BASED ON YOUR CHARACTER TRAITS, which this new one won't have that at all

>>717480075
so which of the 2 classes are jews? Tremere or Ventrue?

>>717489009
They're just politically correct Assamites without all the diablerie compulsion and made boring and generic as fuck.

>>717488921
>no, my issue is that besides Bertram and Kanker, they're not deformed enough
So we went from "none" to two.
>Gary, Imalia are really not that ugly at all, and Mitnick is just "normal human" ugly.
Gary is a classic monster type and Imalia has literally a stitched mouth.
They look better because it's not realistic but it'd be pretty hard to look if it was real.
>And yes, i know this whole thing sounds retarded, but it really bothers me for some reason since i know they could've done better.
I don't need to tell you about the rushed development, but you can clearly tell that the Nossie complexity goes away the further you go into the game, with Bertram and Kanker bein the more deformed and Barabus literally being E's model with the hair removed, skin lightened and ears pointed

>>717489148
Both
Ventrue are literally society-controlling Elite
The Tremere are a huge cult-like group that fucked themselves over in search of more power.

>>717488749
Ventrue. One of the defining characteristics of jewism is how old it is. Tremere are a very young clan. Around 500 years old IIRC.

>>717489148
Neither, Jews are small minority that ingrains itself into a larger society, assumes powerful positions and parasitically lives off it while also fostering division and occulting their tribal agenda for its own benefits.
All Kindred are spiritual Jews.

>>717482767
Surely you meant... Phyre?

>>717489370
nah, that's the Hardsuit version.

>>717480075
It'll be Torries and Lasombra because 5E decided Lassies get to be into the Camarilla now.
>implying nosferatu
That'd require them to make an interesting character model with different gameplay and we can't have that.

>>717488749
>vampires panic when fire
so are the fireball casting tremere just the hardest motherfuckers among kindred?

the disposalble gun telekinesis thing is so fucking stupid, I'll die on this hill, guns have always been a big part of modern vampire media

is this that "RPG" with no inventory system?

>>717475851 (OP)
I will probably suck but I will play it anyway... I am starving for Vampire game.

>>717479708
Yes, very interesting hmmm

>>717480075
Sorry chuddy, but Nosferatu are problematic for people with body dysmorphia. They shan't be included

>>717489460
i can kind of get where the gameplay designer is coming from, but it really doesn't make sense in a franchise that so heavily merges the Urban and Fantasy parts of Urban Fantasy.

>>717475851 (OP)
is this dogshit game ever coming out? it's been eons

>>717489570
anon the one conversation scenethey've shown between characters includes a Nossie that has an anus for a face.

>>717489661
confirmed to come out in like 2 months, actually for real this time.

>>717480194
Classic VtM:
>Yes, somewhat politely (makes you look like a bitch)
>Yes, sarcastically
>No, mockingly (starts fight)
>[Dominate] Shit yourself.
Modern VtM:
>Yes, politely
>Yes, worded slightly differently (but just as polite)
>Yes, but said like a redditor
>[Lie] No

>>717489690
Are you kidding me
'CORD MEETING RIGHT NOW, XISTERS. LOOKS LIKE SOMETHINGS GETTING CANCELED

>>717489728
actually for real real, or actually for "real" *wink*?

>>717489539
When you do finally play it, please post the retarded shit you find

>>717489539
You waiting for blood of daywalker? I don't know how I feel about it.

I really hope most of these posts are actual trolling, because even the worsr shill should be able to tell they're typing like absolute retards and giving themselves away.

>>717485814
I loved the mundane quests of VTMB 1... one can say the human characters and their personalities is what made VTMB a cult classic.

I hope we get to interact with a lot of interesting humans in the second game, there are so many interesting secondary quests they could come up with.

>>717489773
for real real, the subhumans at TCR finally got an idea for what they want to do with the game after scrapping most of Hardsuit's mostly completed game.

>>717489451
Only the ballsiest of Tremere are tossing out fireballs, considering there's a good chance they'll freak themselves out by doing it.
So yeah, either the hardest motherfuckers or the stupidest.

>>717489934
Outstanding. Can't wait to be dissapointed.

>>717489919
the devs have no clue about wod or urban fantasy, starting street level and then getting to the crazy shit is a staple of the genre for a reason

>>717489893
I doubt they're spending any money on shilling a tranny game on 4chan

>>717479459
>Journalists said

>>717489352
sounds like Ventrue to me

>>717490019
Are you sure about that?

>>717489797
Sure.
>>717489839
Probably the only game I am really looking forward to next year... I liked what I have seem so far, a bit worried about the combat though (1v1 with directional parrying works fine, but when there are multiple enemies it gets kind of chaotic)

But apart from that... loved the music, loved the theme and I have high hopes for it.

>>717490019
didn't bioware say negative momentum around veilguard is why it failed? with that in mind they would absolutely try to astroturf 4chan

>>717489017
He's also supposed to be blonde

>>717490014
The dumbest thing about VTMB2 is that you're supposedly playing an elder woken up from torpor, so starting at street level is practically impossible to do with that sort of character.
I'd wager the whole game's going to feel like a fucking dating sim where you just pall around with all the important vamps earning influence points for one faction or another, which in itself is retarded because they should all be piss scared of you and kissing your ass from the moment you set foot in the city.

>gog release

Oh, I guess everyone will be able to pirate it and play for themselves since no DRM.

>>717486516
because that's the Wod experience and that's what people expect from a Wod game.

>>717490019

>>717490172
Bioware blamed literally everything else besides themselves on why the game failed.
Saturated market, expectations too high, chuds, YouTubers, you name it.

>>717490204
>Salubri
Isn't there only supposed to be something like a dozen Salubri at most in the entire world at any given time outside of the dark ages and they're all terrified of being found out by the other clans, or did V5 retcon that shit as well?

>>717490212
Kek, they really like to waste money don't they?

>>717490172
>negative momentum
Maybe they shouldn't have made half a dozen shitty games in a row, then? Where the fuck else is the momentum coming from?

>>717490198
Isn't the MC a lot weaker than what he/she should be as an elder due to the mark and the torpor?

But I agree... if a elder appeared in a weakned state the big players in the city would probably just try to get it killed fast.

>>717490335
You have no idea

>>717475851 (OP)
I'm expecting you to die a painful death for shitting up my board with your shilling. Get to it.

>>717490391
I think they said some shit about having to slowly restore your powers a while back, which is bullshit because a single night of feeding is more than enough to bring a vamp out of torpor.
Whatever the mark is supposed to be I'm sure it's just more contrived bullshit, any elder worth their salt wouldn't be made into a bitch like that.

>>717490292
5th Edition actually made it worse to be a Salubri; now they're not only hunter, but their blood is also coke for other vampires, and every time they use a discipline their third eye very publicly starts weeping blood, AND they're now also empaths who feel spiritually forced to help others around them.

so basically being a Salubri is fucking horrible in 5th Edition.

>>717485471
>Literally a rip-off flag of East Indian Company, signifying a country created as plantations.
I dont honestly understand what you mean with your implication.

>>717490637
>now they're not only hunter
HUNTED* i'm retarded.

>>717490637
I seem to remember their old lore was something about having achieved Golconda but needing to remain secret for fear of getting diablerised, so some of that was in previous eds.
Still, it's always struck me as fucking retarded how all their modern art is like >>717490204 where it's like "hey look at me I have a third eye lol don't diablierise me silly kindred"

>>717481731
Making playable Malkavian is extremely difficult because the clan itself is extremely broad and is much more than just "lol random" with cartoon references like it is portrayed in VtMB. It doesn't help that lots of new VtM tabletop players who never read the lore only imagine Malkavians as fishmalk.

>>717490735
Salubri are all seeking Golconda but i don't remember them being diablerized pre-5th, just persecuted in general.

This fit goes extremely hard though

>>717491027
Nigga i dress like that, why tf would i want to look like a hoodrat ingame too?

>>717490998
Think you're right, I must have gotten it mixed up with how Tremere diablerised Saulot originally.

>>717491027
>>717491116
>admitting being black on /v/

>>717490735
>where it's like "hey look at me I have a third eye lol don't diablierise me silly kindred"
its iconic and /fa/

>>717491027
>assamites
creepy muslim ninja assassin vampires who nobody wants to fuck with
>banu haqim
faggot muslim hood rats who want to be hardcore but their sire won't let them

>>717491486
>clan-enforced mandatory hime cut to hide the eye
okay they're not all bad

I wasт't following the news. Is not-Christina Hendricks still in the game? Did they nerf her well endowed qualities?

>>717491734
>Is not-Christina Hendricks still in the game?
Yeah
>Did they nerf her well endowed qualities?
A bit

>>717491765
>A bit
How can such crimes remain unpunished by society?

>>717491629
lol good taste
>>717491871
>say not in grief: "she is no more." but live in thankfulness that she was

>>717491027
does it?

>>717478137
they all look so bored...


bad sign

>>717480075
Tremere are OP

only constrained by gameplay rules

>>717492254
WoD gameplay rules, or Bloodlines gameplay rules?

>>717475851 (OP)

I'm doing a new playthrough of Bloodlines right now for the first time in 5 years. I'm torn on which clan to choose though. I've done all of them over the years but its been a long time since I played

>>717494250
Go nosferatu and become le stealth man

Damn, that's a lot of posts all of a sudden. And anons were saying that the shilling won't start on this midweek but on the next at most.

>>717492187
>they all look so bored...
The podcast is recorded completely separately. They're just playing b-roll footage to illustrate.

>>717475851 (OP)
>>717478363
toreys are whatever but i like lasombra, cool

>>717481557
>>717481919
Showing some slutty costumes would be great for PR. The question is whether they have the balls to create costumes that are different for men and women. All the costumes seen so far are unisex.

>>717475851 (OP)
she pretty

I'm baffled there haven't been more leaks given the layoffs at The Chinese Room and the fact quite a few people have been allowed to play it.

This game is gonna suck ass but at least they toned down the butch dyke look of the female MC. She looks a bit like a frog now but i can live with that, kinda like the girl in the fallout show. But that older pic (left) looks like the kind of sht you would see from Dragon Age. We dodged a bullet

>>717475851 (OP)
>the lack of shilling is kinda making me hopeful
Paradox, the publisher, always takes a month-long break in July. Expect the media campaign to resume next week.

>>717475851 (OP)
Barely anyone knows it's being made or soon to be released lol

>>717480098
Voice acting is always a negative

>>717495196
Don't count your chickens, someone at the studio could still insisting on using butch Phyre for the cover art. Never underestimate how determined some people can be to suck.

>>717495265
It is the 15-16th most wishlisted game on Steam. When the real marketing ramps up, things will change. They already blew a lot of money marketing the Hardsuit version. So they have to spend their money carefully here.

It's gonna slap.

>>717482767
>muh 45 degree spun rectangle icon UI
This is peak slop

I'm looking forward to the funny negative reviews more than the game itself. It's going to be full suckage, from gameplay to atmosphere. The facial animations are going to be androme tier too, extra funny because they first game's were world leading.

>>717495482
It's gonna slap the bottom of the abortion bucket before tanking the studio that shat it out

>>717495525
>The facial animations are going to be androme tier too, extra funny because they first game's were world leading.
A lot of the facial animation in Bloodlines 1 is actively bad.

>>717495525
The facial animation is a bit twitchy, but seems broadly "fine".

>>717480047
>No Mitsoda
There are some rumours that he was cheating on his wife and got caught, which led to his whole personal life falling apart basically. He became erratic in the office, throwing chairs around, short temper, etc. Stopped showing up, constantly missing meetings or going ghost and being unreachable for days, etc. That, and the whole hardsuit studio fcking up the project caused Paradox to fire him and scrap the whole thing before chinese room contacted them with an offer to cobble smth together. Idk it might be bullshit but those were the rumours on the RPGcodex back in the day, with some sources claiming to have insider information etc. Also Mitsoda and his wife suddenly stopped interacting on social media at some point during developpement, and later separated a few months after VTMB2 was revealed (after 10 years of happy marriage). Even more surprising is that she completely wiped any mention of his name from her online presence (her Linkedin, her twt, etc) as if she was never married to him.

It makes sense to me desu. It would explain all the hush-hush and circling of the wagons from everyone associated with the game. its a sensitive subject and I understand them not wanting to air their coworker's dirty laundry for millions to see and comment on. The internet would be very cruel to him, no doubt.

>>717483537
>shitskin
part and parcel of turboslop
>>717480750
Schaffer is dull. Garfinkle possess a good understanding of mixing high and lows to create an enticing atmosphere, but he feels a bit too bombastic for the setting - then again, the game is already looking like it's going to be a mocking caricature anyway, so it fits.

>>717495525
From March
>The performances, too, are noteworthy—with Bloodlines 2's cast seemingly having a whale of a time playing outrageous predators. I particularly enjoyed Phyre, whose two voice actors do a great job of capturing this old, deadly vamp. Compared to the rest of the cast, they are pretty understated, evoking the low rumble of a big cat stalking its prey.
>I do, however, hope that the finished game will polish up the animations, which in dialogue scenes especially seemed very stiff.
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-first-hands-on-a-gory-undead-power-fantasy-that-im-desperate-to-play-again/
Will be interesting to see how much that aspect gets refined by launch.

>>717495196
>you have to play as our mongrel character because we're lazy and inept

>>717491027
anything touched by a mud becomes worse than trooncore.
mma. football. games. tv. software

>>717495718
Schaffer used to be really good. But I've felt from the start that something was kinda off about his Bloodlines 2 stuff. It felt like a weak rehash of his VTMB1 soundtrack without any of the memorable melodies. A bunch of people gushed over his title track, and it was just a weak-ass version of the original that didn't plagiarize Massive Attack anymore.

>>717495912
Its the classic tale of "artist grows old, all the anger and passion of youth fades as his priorities switch away towards his family, etc over his work".
When Rik Schaffer made the hollywood theme, he was in the hardest depression of his life. He was homeless and living on a friend's couch. You cant recreate that specific mindset and context 20 years later from a middle aged man with a beer belly and a wife.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff1DjBe3LOM

goddamn the shills did their job today
484 replies

>>717496074
Schaffer himself said so, but the people insisted on having him for the HSL version, so he just threw his hands up and went "ok sure let me try i guess"

>>717496074
It's dull, muted. I don't hear the passion and anger you refer to in this.
Not saying it's a bad track, or that he's a hack, but it does sound like something a middle aged man with a beer belly and a wife would put up on his Bandcamp

>>717484763
Do you really work at Paradox?

>>717496583
Yes. I, Anon E. Moose, work at Paradox. Make sure to screencap this post from a random guy as a proof that they indeed market games here

>>717481886
Imagine the smell

>>717480047
>No Avellone
Chris Avellone is blacklisted from like 90% of games development scene because he got metoo'd by 2 crazy women by the time VtMB2 was announced, of which 1 was his date and the other being her friend that she wanted push for Chris to fuck, and they are both batshit insane. The said women caused lots of noise and major companies listened to 2 said crazy bitches, while seeing no evidence until things were settled in courtroom. Sad loss to be fair because Avellone also wrote half of Dying Light 2 story before being booted out for something he didn't do.

>>717481998
I'd fuck Ryong and Safia. Ryong's a secret Lasombra, by the way, and will probably be the "clan skill teacher" if you have the Lasombra DLC installed but aren't playing as one.

>>717490858
Fishmalk is based tho

>>717497263
It doesn't represent the clan as whole and makes it look stupid. Fishmalk to Malkavians is what LaCroix is to Ventrues, a disgusting mockery.

>>717497173
Very interesting. How does a vamp like that pass for a Ventrue, though?

>>717497626
Other than being pushy and appearing almost unapproachable, doesn't. Just like Ventrues, Lasombras care about being seen, but unlike former, they are unhinged and want to be noticed really badly and are prone to psychotic episodes where they get off from destroying lives of others, and deeply believe in survival of the fittest philosophy.

>>717484619
>she really does connect by her pussy
AAAAAAHHHHHH! HOUSE CARNA COULD HAVE BEEN COOL!

>>717497802
Ah, Ryong's dev diary does hint at a social darwinist mindset and she tears a thinblood apart with her bare hands "interrogating" him. (There's a screencap of his mangled corpse on the floor of her office in the GI article.)

>>717485814
Fellow dev-diary-reader, I appreciate your successful b8 campaign.

>>717489451
>>717489946
Koldunic sorcerers (more of a Tzimisce thing) can learn fire-related abilities, and one of them helps with the German word. Also lets them completely ignore the Kraut noun when it's their own fire spell.

>>717480098
>the 2019 dialogue was shat on though for being voiced

This never happened.

>>717480207
The image on the right doesn't have ANY "dialogue options".

>>717499176
i bet you thought that sounded smart in your head lol

>>717498880
Lure of Flame > Way of Fire

>>717495661
why the fuck is there so much dialogue without player choice?

>Our vision of Phyre as an elder is that they have accrued many clan abilities over their 400 years as a vampire, but the incident that brought them to Seattle has locked away their connection to them. By using resonant blood and drinking the blood of the Clan Contacts you can restore Phyre’s connection to the abilities that aren’t native to your chosen clan. For more on the specific clan abilities, please read our previous Clan Highlights: Brujah, Tremere, Banu Haqim and Ventrue.
>Once you are Sheriff of Seattle, Clan Contacts, such as Mrs Thorn (clan Tremere) at Wake The Dead Café, will offer to aid you in restoring your connection to the abilities of their clan by drinking their blood. A pre-requisite is collecting the required amounts of the resonant blood for the ability you wish to “re-learn”. Once collected you can drink the Clan Contact’s blood, adding the ability to the Ability Tree to unlock with Ability Points.
I assume you can still seduce characters like Safia, but it's not part of the cross-discipline learning system.

>>717499270
No, it doesn't. You don't choose dialogue in the new game.

>>717499790
Because it's clunky as fuck otherwise.

>>717500112
But you do.

>>717500071
What if there are actually multiple options for clan contacts?

>>717500172
>Dialogue wheel says "Doubt"
>think my character is going to say something along the lines of "I don't believe you"
>dialogue starts
>"You are full of shit, the truth is you hated that bitch. You followed her and dragged her onto your Brahmin and then took her out to the Vault. She woke up and you smashed her face in with a Power Fist. And then you stomped her. You stomped her because she's a drunken whore and she treated you like shit. You stomped her for all the years you had to take it. You stomped her because you are such a weak fucking sister and you wanted to erase all memory of it. Go on. Try to deny it
>guy I'm talking to starts uncontrollably crying
>dialogue wheel gives me 4 new options
>want to console him because I didn't see it coming that my character would flip out like that
>pick [Glass Him] to give him a drink
>character picks up a nuka cola bottle and smashes his face in
>guy drags himself across the ground screaming for help
>chose dialogue option [Help Him]
>my character starts screaming "Oh I'll help you alright." walks up to him and stomps the shit out of his back and breaks his legs with a Super Sledge
>Codsworth hovers over the guy and says some cheesy line along the lines of "Guess this will make BREAKING NEWS when they find his corpse"
>chose dialogue option "Very funny"
>character says "Fuck you"

good thread, cant wait for bloodlines 2, i'll have a blast!

>>717495432
>is the 15-16th most wishlisted game on Steam
Veilguard was in a better position by this time.

>>717501114
Really? Because the game can't be pre-ordered, and marketing hasn't begun yet. I don't think the cycles are quite the same.

>>717501182
>Really?
Yes.
>Because the game can't be pre-ordered
People have been able to pre-order this game since 2019
>. I don't think the cycles are quite the same.
Indeed. This one is gonna sell even less.

>>717501287
>People have been able to pre-order this game since 2019
That was a different game by a different company.

>>717495432
i add games on whislit with the intention to buy them when they are 1-3€
whislist means shit

>>717501428
>That was a different game by a different company.
You could still pre-order and wishlist since then though.
You could do that for Dragon Age whatever the original version of 4 was.