Thread 717488696

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/knowing-steam-players-are-hoarders-explains-why-you-give-valve-that-30-percent-analyst-tells-devs-you-get-access-to-a-bunch-of-drunken-sailors-who-spend-money-irresponsibly/

>"If Steam shoppers were rational and only bought games they were going to play, we would sell a lot fewer games," says Zukowski. "Half this industry would be gone."

>"The amazing thing about Steam and its player base is that they buy games they aren't going to play," says Zukowski in a new post (first spotted by GR+). "More than likely the person buying your game is not going to play it."

Steam bros..... we're literally just a bunch of sheeple who have more money than sense. Jesus christ. I don't even think jesus is real but jesus christ steambros... and we make fun of forntite kiddies who buy skins for a game they like and actively PLAY???? god lord gaben please who i praise hourly, this can't be true.....

>>717488696 (OP)
That's because of the frequent big sales though
>x game I wanted to try out at some point is only $5, I'll get it now so I have it to play later
People aren't buying games they won't play at full price to "collect" them

>>717488832
>I'll get it now so I have it to play later

But the later never comes

>>717488696 (OP)
>Steam bros..... we're literally just a bunch of sheeple who have more money than sense
he's talking about you not me. I have 13 games on steam and play/played them all to the max.

Gaymers are known to be one of the easiest demographics to exploit.

>>717488696 (OP)
POSTED IT AGAIN AWARD

https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/30-percent-analyst-tells-devs-you-get-access-to-a-bunch-of-drunken-sailors-who-spend-money-irresponsibly%2F/
Fun fact: OP is an actual EGS shill who spams this article because he's mad that nobody spends any money on EGS

>>717488696 (OP)
I only own two games on Steam - Elden Ring and Starfield - and I'll probably never accomplish everything I can in those games.
Having a blast though.
My friend had an untouched 400+ game backlog and still killed himself.
What's up with that?
Pathetic guy.

>>717488872
It's true.
I have a massive backlog. It is nice to choose a game from it but it would be cheaper just to make that decision when I want to start a new game even if there is no discount.

>>717488832
Can confirm. Everything in my backlog comes from steam sales.

>>717488696 (OP)
I like how I called you out the moment this article dropped that you'd be spamming this in the months to come and was exactly right kek. You're even cropping out the date to hide it.

>>717488696 (OP)
I buy chinese keys that were already paid for in the past. Global region unlocked, legit sites. That way Valve cannot make new money since the keys were already paid for. It's not like when you click on their shit site and they make a new copy out of thin air. Also I profit from globalism since chink keys never were full price to begin with. That way they earn even less.

>>717489136
Women don't look like this

>>717489185
>Women don't look like this
Reality is often disappointing. Wait until you get to the point that married women don't behave well either

Clearing your backlog is like chasing the dragon, but I'm gonna reach that nirvana eventually.
Last year I had almost 300 games and now down to about 168 left.

>>717488696 (OP)
Good morning saar, Krishna bless Israel and Bharat and I love Epic Games Store, Starfield and Gal Gadot beautiful

>>717489891
Why you crying

>people would rather hand over money to Gaben without making use of any service than install EGS
No wonder Timmy is mad.

>>717490041
Good morning saar, I do the needful and drink blessed water from Ganges holy water no need to clean

>>717489564
Take it easy Anon, you do realize "clearing your backlog" means running out of games to play, right? Nobody wants that

>>717488872
>players
You know what this word means, right? That's X% of people who played it, not bought it.

If you never opened the game you don't count as a player so your own stat debunks your assertion.

>>717490551
Saar they could have supported Bharat and beautiful Israel with beautiful Gal Gadot by buying electronic game on Epic Games Store

They are bloody basterds saar

>>717488832
pretty much this, also
>pirate a game, enjoy it, finish it
>buy on sale for 75% off years later
>never play it again

>>717488696 (OP)
This is absolutely insane, I have noticed It for years that most simple chevos like [kill your first zombie] only like 30% of people will have it.

Even games like Factorio that NEVER go on sale or bundle have this problem. Who the FUCK is buying these games?

>>717490331
I'll be scraping the bottom of the bucket or trying a genre I'm not bigly into.
I've been mostly busy with old school fps games and only got left shit like.
>a big bunch of slavjank games
>Wolf 3d
>Depth Dwellers
>SW Jedi Knight - Mysteries of the Sith
>Turok 1,2 and 3
>Zombi
>Delta Force series
>CyClones
>SW Dark Forces Classic
>SW Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2
>PowerSlave both versions
>Deadly Dozen series
>Catechumen
>SW Republic Commando
>Necrodome
>Killing Time
>Line of Sight; Vietnam
>Tunnel Rats (never on sale, incredibly shitty but funny)
>Chasm: The Rift

>Steam fags are cum guzzling exploitable morons
More at 11.

>>717488696 (OP)
yea

>>717488696 (OP)
I have seen this thread 20 times already, what is op problem?

>>717490953
My problem saar is that by being a Steamie and buying game from Steam you take money away from Bharat and Indian children mouth. You blood basterd literally poopy in the Ganges by not giving Bharat money and you don't even do it for a rupee

>>717488832
>buy a game after it goes on deep sale because interested
>eventually becomes meh and end up dropping it
>didn't pay $80 + tip so it's not a big deal
I used to rent my games from Blockbuster for a few dollars and play the shit out of those for a week. The games that I ended up liking would get bought later also at a discount. Not gonna pay full price if I don't have to.

>Have about 500 games
I should look at one of those stat sites but they will want me to login or unprivate my profile. Even that site that is like those public information scraping sites but for steam has nothing about my profile except the name. Anyway, most of the unplayed games I have were from humble bundles but I stopped grabbing those years ago. I'll occasionally browse my wishlist and pick up a game or two when it's dirt cheap. I usually end up playing those but there's a few there that I probably won't get around to playing. But I spent like 5 bucks on them so whatever. Anything I pick up at full price I'll play right then because it's something I was excited for like Monster Hunter or something. I'm not collecting them. I just.. have them. The ones I don't play either came in bundles or were just stupid cheap. I've thrown away some of my french fries when I get a burger and fries too. I think I only have two games that I've bought this year that I haven't got around to playing yet.

Whatever, it's a good problem to have. I have more games than I can possibly play. Better than buying a new console every 5 years for the privilege to play like 6 total games and none of the games I bought from a previous generation work anymore. Anything I bought 15 years ago I can still boot up and play no problem.

>>717488696 (OP)
umm I have 20 "le years of service" and that is just a joke but I'm VERY serious about it and my faithfulness will be rewarded and I'm not in a cult

>>717488696 (OP)
I primarily play on console, and I guarantee you that I and many others do the same, buy buy buy. It's not just a Steam or even PC thing.

I have alot of unplayed games, but those all are from buying a humble bundle for one specific game and getting all the others "free". I would never buy a game i didnt intend on installing and playing right away.

>gamers are retards
woah
truly an incredible scoop

not like gaymers are the most impressionable and most easily manipulated faggots on the planet

>>717488696 (OP)
Steam expert award

>>717488915
Translation:
My butt still hurts from the last time.
Please be gentle.

>>717488696 (OP)
Steam just keeps track of users better than retailers do. I used to have games I never played when I was a kid with a console.

i did this for a while but now i buy maybe 2 games a year.

>>717491164
>when the new console requires a tribute + tip just for the privilege of playing multiplayer with other people
>even with crossplay meaning you are running alongside dudes that don't even know the concept of that pathetic shit
Still wouldn't put it past the modern companies looking for similar ways to nickle and dime you when subscriptions are the rage these days. You will still get paid promotions front-loading your feeds like cable because time = money. Can't go a single moment without trying to monetize something for nothing.

>>717489136
in what website can u even find chinese keys. You sound fake

>>717492001
not in that tone

>>717492179
I don't even like keys but if that anon wants to prevent valve from making "new money" then he would share. But as I said, probably bs

>>717488696 (OP)
Bump

>>717488696 (OP)
People buy a game to keep in their backlog and they expect to play it and enjoy the game at one point when it's on sale.
The thing is a game purchase isn't always done whenever you want to play videogames. A sale etc might draw your attention.

This doesn't work the same way for digital movies or Netflix because when people want Netflix or browse for something to watch on Netflix or a movie they want it right now. To consume. Post haste.

>>717488696 (OP)
I buy the game if I liked it. That way may seems like I didn't played it, but I actually did

>>717488832
>steam
>big sales
This isn't 2012 anymore.
Wake up.

>>717488832
netflix fucked themselves and have no one else to blame.
>hey retard you should binge watch! binge watching is the hot new craze!!!! watch our new show in one sitting!!!
and then everyone did that, then they realized they can just cancel their subscription and comeback to binge watch the next slop rollout.

>>717488696 (OP)
instead of subscriptions, a lot of places should really just be selling you digital licenses that go on regular sale and they'll be swimming in money too
i don't want to marathon a bunch of random shows and movies, but i am interested in specific ones that i want to be able to watch when i feel like it and it's still more convenient for me than keeping my playstation hooked up to watch blurays
steam is literally the proof that consumers prefer predictable and affordable digital products even with mild DRM (watermark with a user ID seems to be preferred by a lot of high end video services) over navigating the high seas

>>717488896
autism

I'm not being taken advantage off!! I'm the master of the deal!! I'm actually the one scamming steam and the devs with these sick deals!!

>>717488696 (OP)
This happens just due to both sales and service being very good. So, it is a positive indicator.

>>717490712
I don't know how many are like me, but I always play with Steam in offline mode if the game allows it. I don't want either playtime or achievements tracked.

>>717488696 (OP)
Steam : CONSOOOOM
EGS : REDEEEEEEM
GOGG: PIRAAAAAATE
RGL: GTAAAAAAA
UC : CREEEEEEED
EAA : ......
What is the point of EA app?

>>717488696 (OP)
>industry analyst Chris Zukowski
So some nigger paid to huff his own farts and sound smart to the investors

>>717488696 (OP)
>>"The amazing thing about Steam and its player base is that they buy games they aren't going to play," says Zukowski in a new post (first spotted by GR+). "More than likely the person buying your game is not going to play it."
>Steam bros..... we're literally just a bunch of sheeple who have more money than sense. Jesus christ.

Two groups of people do it:

1 - People who genuinely have FOMO and buy slop, those with too much expendable cash, more money than sense, even if they buy them all on sale.

2 - people who want to get a high game count and Steam profile score. These people bulk buy games and/or by TF2 keys to boost their scores. Usually you will never see a high profile number with a low game count (like 300 profile score but only 10 games or something).

Whilst both of the buy on sale, the second type don't care about the game or playing it. They just care how good a deal they're getting.

They have no problem just searching for years-old games to get a baseline for it's historic low sale price point. Then just camp all those games with websites that notify when a
game reaches a sales threshold.

With years old games the devs also get desperate and just want to get a sale rather than nothing so put them at real low prices 80% off and higher. With the amount of games on steam you won't run out of choices as more games reach historic lows over time.

>>717496612
more like too successful and so everyone in the entertainment industry copied them

>>717489185
https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1cfe0by/d_real_bottom_heavy_wife_killer_cosplay_by/

>>717497039
Dont forget pirates who pay for games they liked after finishing

>>717488696 (OP)
>"Steam and their 30% cut is extremely predatory and anti consumer and it impacts small developers the most, we need to do something about this evil monopoly scheming!!!"
>*gaymers start buying games impulsively without even playing them*
>"AIIIIIEEEE NOT LIKE THAT!!!"
Kekypow!

Hell yeah, got like 600 unplayed games. Will take 15 years to clear all of them

>>717488696 (OP)
>collecting
>licenses
This is the opposite of collecting lol

>>717496534
Only for people who will actually bother to browse around for better deals. Normies will still just flock to Steam whenever there's a sale going on. Nothing today holds a candle to Flash Deals, though.

>>717496472
I only buy games I'm going to IMMEDIATELY play. For everything else there are bundles and shit.

>>717497565
>600 unplayed games
mate. you're not even in the thousands. you're fine.

Gaben will live forever and I will always own my licenses

>>717499580
I got 864 games overall, it's just that I already played a good chunk of them

>>717488696 (OP)
The games for steam players is secondary to the "collection", the bar on the left side is the collection and they become fixated with growing their digital collection that can be taken from them at any time.

It's kind of retarded really, given the company and your whole collection will eventually be sold to Microsoft.

>>717488979
Most of my backlog comes from GoG sales

>>717499519
Most of my library was accumulated over the years when bundles didn't suck ass yet.

>>717497565
>>717499665
Here's to another 20 years of Steam providing us with kino games we bought and never intended on playing

>>717488832
I literally only buy things on sales when I need something new to play. I buy it and play it immediately. Other things on my wishlist will stay there's even if they're also on good sales. Either another sale will come down the road or I can grab a near sale price cd key if I'm that bothered by the list price.

I do not understand people with the "buy now play later" or "collector" mindsets.

>>717488696 (OP)
Confirmed for having more money than tendies or snoyfags.

>>717499476
Nah Anon is right the sales are shit these days. You usually only see 75% off and above on stuff that is at least a decade old. Same shit you'd find at the bargain bin in Walmart if physical copies are still a thing.

Epic shills are so damn sad
They're just jealous that Steam users can actually afford a lot of games.

>>717499843
75% off is an excellent deal, though. Real problem is BASE PRICES which remain high because publishers are greedy.

>>717499969
For decades old games? It's the standard.

>>717499969
>mfw you still can't get sekiro for less than 50% off at 29.99

For a game I'm never going to play? $1-2 max.

Thats just because the deals are good.
I used to buy games I didnt end up playing physically too back then when I got them for really cheap.
Overall still way cheaper on average than buying new/not on sale.

>>717500148
>i want to play japanese spiderman
why

>>717499969
He said 75% only applies to decades old games, retard. Games from 8 years ago are still only 25% off

>>717500168
Don't buy games you're not going to play

>>717488696 (OP)
>Steam expert says
Stopped reading there. What the fuck.

>>717489136
Yeah I'd estimate that 75% of my steam games are keys like this that I got for dirt cheap and every time I bought a game like this there's always at least one free game key I unlock because why not.

>>717488696 (OP)
If you have a huge library on steam, just get a deck and watch as you actually start to play all those games.

>>717500379
No

>>717488696 (OP)
>steam expert
lmao

>>717496612
>>717497232
What happened is that Netflix tapped into a growing niche that perfectly aligned with the grouping online presence and sued really good marketing in an attempt to kill cable before the investor money ran out.
And well they killed cable but everyone else just copied their homework instead of giving them a monopoly.

>>717500379
Getting a bundle for one game you want is often still cheaper even just for that one game than buying it when it's on sale. Steam has a massive key market. That's how people get libraries into the hundreds or thousands for a tiny fraction of even just buying a dozen games for full price.

>>717488696 (OP)
They suffer from "I'll save so much money if I buy it right now on sale" instead of realizing they'd save alot more money not buying it at all.

>>717500581
He literally didn't mention bundles at all

>>717488696 (OP)
>renting
>without using the rental
WOW, AMAZING
GABE YOU ARE DA BEST
YOU SAVED PC GAYMING!!!

>>717488696 (OP)
That's not news, I've seen dozens of accounts with thousand games, 99% never played.

>don't buy game
>it gets delisted
>mastercard bans it
>it never goes on deep sale again

>>717497039
>people who want to get a high game count and Steam profile score
So they are like Snoys, but even more embarrassing?

>>717488696 (OP)
>steam expert
OP is a faggot.

>>717488696 (OP)
Imagine if you spent that energy and effort doing something good for yourself and the people around you instead of mildly annoying complete strangers. You might actually have friends that gave you something better to do than to remake shit threads.

>>717488696 (OP)
Incorrect. The collecting part is just due to sales being so good that they just haven't played them yet. Keyword, yet.

They buy them in the sales to have them readily available when they want to play them and also knowing they got it at a cheap price.

This isn't difficult to understand.

>>717500637
That's just how most people acquire huge libraries of games they aren't going to play. If you get a bundle of 10 games for $15 that's still paying $1-2 per game. Even if the one or two games you actually bought the bundle for only ever goes on a normal sale for $30.

>>717502036
Not very bright, are you

>>717488696 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOOOO STOP BULK BUYING CHEAP INDIE GAMES THAT YOU'LL PUT ON YOUR BACKLOG FOR YEARS BEFORE PLAYING YOU MUST BUY MUH UNREAL ENGINE ASSET FLIP AAAAA SLOP AND PLAY IT 24/7 RIGHT NOW NOW NOW NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717502076
I don't know why you're getting offended over the obvious. Paying $15 for a bundle that includes 9 other games vs paying $60 (or $30 when on sale) for the one game you're buying the bundle for is how people get huge libraries. This fact baffles console users because they don't get any of this and they're used to having to pay full price.

>>717502076
retard

>>717488696 (OP)
I did this once and figured it out. Now I only buy a gam eif I'm gonna play it immediately.

>>717488696 (OP)
>good constant sales and no subscriptions
wow that was hard!

>>717490059
All Timmy had to do was not be a huge scumbag. Giving away free games to get their foot in the door was a great idea, spying on users Steam installs via EGS, paying people to slander Steam online (they admitted to this in their court case with Apple), buying up exclusivity rights to keep games off of Steam, trying to bully Steam into lowering their cut to 12% (which Timmy would later admit in court was unsustainable without Fortnite money), and of course their court case with Apple which turned out to be both fraudulent and premeditated and only served to embarrass themselves and air out a bunch of Epic's (and Sony's) dirty laundry and show to the entire world what a huge lying snake Timmy really was, were all REALLY FUCKING TERRIBLE ideas.

>>717502830
>no subscriptions
>I had to agree to a STEAM SUBSCRIBER agreement
choose one

>buy games on sale to play later
>jeets and thirdies all over the world fly into a fit of rage and seethe endlessly "how can he buy???"
it's kinda funny

>>717503153
Timmy Tencent is a retard who hit the jackpot once with Fortnite Battle Royale and has fumbled at everything since then.

you can tell its some epic timmy FUD when it focuses on some guy spending five bucks to buy all the leisure suit larry games just because he remembered the ads from his childhood instead of all the whales who blow thousands on microtransactions every day.

>>717506002
You know that's mentally ill style hoarding right? Those games might be good, but he'll never know.

>>717488696 (OP)
>Game on sale
>Buy it
>Can still play it years later because I actually own it (at least on the platform)

vs

>Pay for Jewflix subscription
>Can only watch whatever they have at the moment
>Licences expire and you can no longer watch stuff on it anymore and can't save it locally

>we cracked the code
filling 75% of steam with non white people?

>omg
>like
>if a store
>like
>has things
>like
>people will buy stuff
>man

Revy pevy OPs ass is thick and heavy

>>717502830
NOOOOOOOOOOO STOP IT CHUD YOU ARE KILLING THE INDUSTRY PEOPLES JOBS ARE AT STEAK HERE DON'T TOU UNDERSTAND!???!?!
Fr though I see people unironically try to say shit like this all the time. Hate these fuckers.

>>717506002
You are mentally ill.
Take meds. Now.

>>717503153
>unsustainable without Fortnite money
sure, buddy

>>717510191
I worded it kind of poorly, but I meant he said EGS's own 12% cut was an unsustainable business model and was only possible for Epic because Fortnite more than made up for whatever they were spending elsewhere.

I only buy the games that i want to play right now. I don't play multiplayer games at all. I don't buy unfinished, ongoing, or live service games. Pic very related.

>>717511139
hey Unc

>>717488696 (OP)
>things go on sale
>let them keep playing what they paid for instead of suddenly yanking it away
Literally just do nothing and win.

>>717511270
Damn, he's fast.

>>717511270
you want my purchase history too?

>>717511398
https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorageapp/?appid=744350
share this and all of it's content with us too kind stranger :^)

>>717488696 (OP)
>buying
most of my library is shit i got when the game was free for a moment

>>717511489
?????

>>717511642
>never sent a single attachment in friend chat
how immaculate, maybe you're not so bad

>>717488696 (OP)
I am guilty of this, all games I do buy are steep sales or humble bundle deals that are cheaper then steam sales. And the people going "acksually" to defend Valve at all costs are in pure denial.

It still blows my mind how open and unapologetic this industry is about insulting its customers. Then they have the balls to constantly wonder why their big-budget slop ends up flopping.

>Steam expert says
So, your average indian?

>>717496534
Use SteamDB each week with lowest recorded discounts filter and you'll find good deals. Summer/Winter sales have been trash since 2015. I don't know why most people buy their games then.

>>717506849
I rather have someone hording digital goods whether on a DRM store or meme pics on their harddrives then hording real life shit in their house.

>>717511785
>Then they have the balls to constantly wonder why their big-budget slop ends up flopping.

Because the only thing that really matters is whether or not the game is good finds its audience. The vast majority of a game with mass market appeal is casual buyers. People who watch a trailer and then make their purchase decision. They don't read social media about the game, they don't follow any news, they don't keep up with industry events and they especially don't post on /v/. And if the game is made for those people and they like it, it's going to do well.

>mfw have less 300 games on Steam
>only buy 3 or 4 games a year
>the rest I get for free or through Steam Family
Imagine buying more game than you can play LMAO

>>717501635
this NES FUCKS
some Knight Rider shit damn

Every game I've bought is a game I would've played the very moment I bought it. But life gets in the way. If a game is on sale, and you were going to buy anyway (the point of a wishlist), why not get it?
It helps that I'm anargie.

>>717489136
>I'm a retard consoomer but at least I buy my games from China
You're a special kind of mentally ill.

>>717488872
Hey i finished crash

For me, later ocassionally comes

>>717489891
>>717490098
Funny

>>717488696 (OP)
I have about 600 games in my library and have at least put time into 65% of them. I'm trying to clear out the remaining 180-ish games that I haven't even tried yet (100+ of them are free promotion games so oh well). My goal is to put at least a decent amount of time into them, but if I hate the thing I'm not going to bother finishing it.

>2012
>PC is bad because they don't buy games!

>2025
>PC is bad because they buy too many games!

How the times had changed.

If Valve offered me a trade in feature, I'd take it even if it was a shitty return rate. Like half of the games I own I got on deep discount years ago when I was a teenager and just went "ooo game i'll play that."