Thread 717490319

Tomb raider :)

>>717490319 (OP)
I'll raid her womb

it was so magical to dive in that pool. zoomies cant understand this feel!

is this a screenshot of the gba port

Legendary game
Fantastic first level that really gave you a sense of immensity and being completely lost.

The remasters look bad to me idk why everyone praises them. Maybe I just have bad taste.

>integer scaling
SOVL

>>717490319 (OP)
Beat I-III months ago but refuse to play IV-VI until they fix the broken audio that they fucked up in Patch 1 with sounds like Lara's footsteps/jump landing sound being either near inaudible or missing completely

4 months since the last patch and still no news. Fucking grim.

imagine the visual noise

>>717490319 (OP)
Despite being around when it came out, I never got around to playing TR1 until last year. It's still a fantastic game, but I liken Atlantis to Half-Life's Xen for what a shitty slog it is.

>>717490319 (OP)
This Lara

>>717490319 (OP)
I fucking love 1-3. Then there's Last Revelation which I really want to love but struggle too. Chronicles is just like bad fan levels just play some fan missions instead they're gonna be better and Angel of Darkness is awful/great. Possibly one of my favorites.

Nu Raider is fine I guess. It's Uncharted but with tits. I dunno why it's fans have a boner for the second one I thought Shadow was probably the best of those three.

>>717491978
No. Legend Lara is best lara

>>717492552

I like her too but I'm nostalgic for AoD, as poorly reviewed as it was

>>717490319 (OP)
Still the best out of the classic TR era.

2 is absolute dogshit I have no idea why people like it, 90% of the game is fighting human enemies and the combat is simply not designed for that.

3 toned it down and added some variety, London is cancer but the rest is solid.

Last Revelation is second best, lacks variety but makes up for it with atmosphere and puzzles.

I actually liked Chronicles, was expecting complete dogshit but the spooky level and the submarine were fun.

>>717492075
>Nu Raider is fine I guess
Maybe in a vacuum but it's not Tomb Raider and it effectively killed the actual Lara Croft and Tomb Raider to replace it with something else that happens to share the same name.

>>717493034
I'm sad it was unfinished

how did boomers justify playing as a femoid back in the day?

>>717493175
I don't think it killed her. Changing tastes was gonna deliver that blow regardless. It didn't help though.

Are those ports or the re-releases on steam any good? I wanted to play this as a kid but my friend wouldn't share the controller

>>717493342
Use duckstation and emulate the ps1 versions

>>717493263
Well back in the day it was no real big deal. Wasn't until future generations where a bunch of people who decided to make their sexual identity their entire identity started trying to trick players into thinking if they enjoyed playing a protagonist of the opposite sex they were really that sex. I thought we figured out from furries it was a bad idea to shape your life around what gets you hard but guess not.

>>717493263
Nobody cared back then

>>717493263
It was just a sexy character you got to control. I'm sorry you've grown up during a time where everything is a test of your sexual identity but it never used to be like this. You guys are completely fucked in the head and it's all the fault of the retards pushing far leftist gibberish.

>>717493342
I haven't played the 4-6 remasters yet but 1-3 were very good

>>717493579
This site doesn't help. Maybe forums were filled with less angry degenerates back in the day. Seems like every thread revolves into arguing. Nobody can be civil. This site is an awful influence on young people. But then so is most social media.

>>717493263
Titties. Boobies. Honkers. Mammaries. Bazoombas.

>>717493342
Remasters are the definitive way to play. You can switch between OG and new graphics (I played through them with og graphics). Install the uncapped frame rate mod for I-III. They are basically the gold standard for remasters

However IV-VI Remastered has fucked up audio at the moment which still hasn't been patched. Maybe it will be fixed by the time you beat I-III. Besides the audio, IV-VI is even better as a remaster than I-III

>>717490319 (OP)
That woke disclaimer they put in the game was a hard no for me. Doesn't matter if you can remove it, not gonna give money to woke Crystal Dynamics.

>>717493263
biggest thing was the fact that it was a tentpole game in general. it wasn't just the game where you play as lara croft, for a lot of people it was the first major 3d game. large scale fully 3d environments, no 2.5d halfsteps released in 1996.
though you inevitably still got jostled a bit for it
>oh hey look it's anon's gf, bet he really likes playing that at night

>>717494295
Huh, what type of content are they referring to.

>>717494123
>>717493614
Thanks for the info anons, i'll check em out

>>717494339
the cannibals aka """natives"""

luckily they learned and they removed it

>Nu Raider is fine I guess.

No it's not. It might be OK if it was not labeled Tomb Raider, it is downright insulting to a genuinely legendary character to make her another bow-girl trope. It's like someone remade Star Wars and decided Luke Skywalker needs to be like Harry Potter to suit modern audiences.

>>717493384
>don't use the version where you can mod her nude
What causes this homosexuality? FFXIV?

>>717490802
It's not awful but it definitely lost some of the charm. At least it's just one button to switch between retro and remastered graphics.

>>717494295
For me it's precisely the opposite, I'm going to make sure it does well precisely because I know there are people in CD who are SEETHING at the fact that the remasters did good.

>>717494123
I agree, the remasters are pretty great, and if the new graphics bother you just press the button to instantly remove them. The only problem I had was a key being practically invisible in The Cistern, but they fixed that.

>>717493050
>2 is absolute dogshit I have no idea why people like it, 90% of the game is fighting human enemies and the combat is simply not designed for that.
the combat is dogshit in every TR game, the chimeras in TR1 are even worse

>>717490802
They are badly made. Install the gold edition mod that fixes everything.

>>717494484
My wife worked on the remasters as well as was showrunner for the Soul Reaver remasters. I doubt CD is that upset about the Core games getting attention as they're drifting towards the CD games as well.

>>717494295
The actual Devs at Saber interactive probably detest this shit. It's just classic Crystal Dynamics ritual bashing of the franchise they unwillingly took over.

>>717494858
Well the saber devs could stay doing their fucking job and patch the remasters or at least say when they are going to.

>>717495056
patch them with what

>>717495102
;)

>>717494742
Isnt this that one girl from the old meme

>>717495339
Nah, she's a turbo autist from Slovakia (I think) who lives in the UK and kept a lot of the Legacy of Kain community from getting too fragmented by consolidating info and mods. She got involved on the TR remasters, then got put in charge of the SR remasters. https://x.com/RainaAudron

>>717493263
I don't think people really self-inserted/identified as the player character yet, and AGP just meant Accelerated Graphics Port back then.

>>717495056
They're definitely working on LAU remasters , probably being rushed to release it on Feb 14th again so no doubt in full crunch mode for a game that will still probably come out in an unfinished state. Plus juggling TR4-6 Patch 2 on top of that. They are being worked like dogs. Probably the only dev team I feel bad for lol

>>717491978
busted so many times to her

>>717494402
>that pic
i love the other ones

i'm so tired, buddies

>>717497891
Wanna suck me off?

>>717497928
*fights u*

I refuse to believe it is outside - I didn't see the sky in 1996 and deny its existence now.

>>717490319 (OP)
>Sees what could possibly be the last T Rex ever
>Shoots it to death for the lulz
>She then proceeds to do this two more times in two more games
Did T Rexes molest her as a child or something, what the fuck does she have against them?

>>717494742
Based Raina Audron

>>717498363
t-rex tried to eat her anon

>>717498571
She refused to kill a person who was outright shooting her not too long afterwards.

>>717498053
*chokes you and pulls you down to my crotch*

>>717498147
The OG engine didn't allow for colored skyboxes, hence the pitch blackness.

>>717498630
not that anon but tag?

>>717498885
you're such a slut, I was just goofing around

>>717498874
i'm not gonna lie, the first time i fought the T-rex i died :(
i was still getting used to the tank controls

>>717498657
Don't care. I saw no sky.

im at the last level of atlantis on 1 now. thoroughly enjoyed the game so far and whilst the remaster looks good in places, the lighting is awful

>>717498930
i'm not

How do I git gud and stop cheating?

Never played but she was great in Gantz.

>>717499794
nnggh

>>717500516
https://files.catbox.moe/let3jx.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/zcafuu.jpeg

>>717499193
Good luck with Tomb Raider 2.

It's worth enduring to get to Tomb Raider 3. I promise you TR3 is a magnificent game. So fucking awesome

>>717498874
>Doesn't swallow her
Well, my boner is ruined.

>>717490802
Play OpenLaura if you want modernized classic
But the remasters are fine imo and you can just switch to classic graphics.

I like the inclusion of breast physics and the photo mode.

>>717499193
Feel you. Wish the game was more open for deeper modding so people could go and tweak the lighting.

>>717499794
hoooot

>>717502706
:)

>>717493050
Tomb Raider 2 and Indiana Jones & The Great Circle both suffer from the same problem
Instead of taking place in a tomb/ruins, you spend half the fucking game on the streets of Italy

It was a different time

While I never got the game playing the TR1 demo on my psx was fantastic back in the day and was an early case for me of "the future is now".

>>717499312
try the nude lara mod yet?

Never forget what they took from you

>>717503254
kek

tomb rajder

TR3
>start game, immediately impaled by spikes
is an example
>crushed by a boulder a milisecond after dodging another one
of good level design
>go crazy looking for a place to use the subway token
and tough
>drown repeatedly in a pitch dark underwater maze
but fair
>pull lever, tile you're standing on erupts in flames
gameplay
>pick Nevada last, lose all equipment

i tried playing the ps1 version of tomb raider and these games genuinely have the worst movement system it could have even been possible to code in the 90s

i sign up for an action adventure game and instead i'm hit with controls that makes simply jumping to a platform feel like a quick time action mixed with reaction time puzzles

i don't have an issue with tank controls alone, as i can play resident evil and dino crisis just fine, but having the camera follow so closely combined with slow realistic animations just makes the brain dizzy even when everything is clear

>>717501001
i guess, but i heard it takes the difficulty to extreme levels, which doesn't sound very fun in a game that's already a struggle to play

literally the only good thing about this game is that you play as lara croft,

imagine being a woman in the 90s wanting to play a game and tomb raider is one of the few options out there, it's no wonder gaming was such a boy's club for so many years

>>717503524
open lara is okay, it's great for what it is, but it only seems to run tomb raider 1

>>717503421
Yeah the classic TR games are a perfect example of "savescum" games if you don't want to pull your hair out. When I first played TR3 I emulated the PS1 version and mapped create savestate and load savestate to each side of the DS4 trackpad

>>717503759
>action adventure
Tomb Raider is a platformer

>>717503759
genuinely filtered

Just finished the Legend trilogy
>Legend had a good foundation but needed less combat and the story was borderline nonsense
>Anniversary was an overall great game with everything Tomb Raider should be
>Underworld was somehow the weakest game in the trilogy. With the story being completely nonsensical, worst combat in the series and the control being the worst out of all 3 games

>>717503889
i realize this now, it bewilders me that so many people like this game, i guess the people who don't like it don't talk about it, but it's not like i even have to go that far to be a contrarian about it

>>717503759
>games genuinely have the worst movement system it could have even been possible to code in the 90s
You have to remember it came out when 3D platforming was still being tested, sure Mario 64 perfected 3D platforming and it came out the same year as Tomb Raider but the developers had to make their own system from scratch .

>>717502648
I didn't realise VonCroy was this much of a manlet

>>717503759
PS1 Tomb Raider has excellent controls, you need to play until it "clicks" with you, the games use a grid system and all your moves are always consistent. This allows for an insane level of precision, once you figure out what you need to do, you can close your eyes, perform the sequence and it will succeed 100% of the time. It's a different approach to what later platformers where doing, TR platforming is almost a puzzle not a test of your platforming skills

>>717504772
It's ok anon, the game can't hurt you now. You don't have to live in fear anymore

>>717493263
sexy woman? me likey.

>>717504506
normally i would think devs should just know that it doesn't work well, but i'm considering there might not have been a good example of a 3d game where you can control a person at the time they started development

3d games did exist, they were racing games and maybe fighting games, i've never thought about it before, but the analog stick almost controls like a steering wheel

>>717504772
i guess, i'm not really a fan of puzzles i just thought the game looked kinda cool, ever since i became a solodev half of my "hobbies" involve things i have to look up tutorials for nowadays, and it just gets so tiring to want to be able to do things, but not know how

>>717503759
Why do fucking awful takes and pointless double spacing go hand in hand in this place?

>>717490319 (OP)
I watched the contestants play this on a British game show. The one guy kept doing backflips and sidesteps but couldn't pull the damn lever! He did everything but pull the lever

>>717506156
>, but the analog stick almost controls like a steering wheel
The game was developed during a time when analog sticks didn't exist, the first console with an analog stick was the Nintendo 64 which also came out in 96.
>It was first released on the Sega Saturn, followed shortly by versions for MS-DOS and the PlayStation.
None of these had analog sticks

>>717493050
trash opinion

>>717493263
we didn't care

>>717493263
Tiddies. Your agp didn't exist until a couple years ago.

>>717490471
>>717490319 (OP)
>magical
>motherfucking bear hunting you and forcing you in the pond right at the beginning of the game as you struggle with controls
>anxiety climbing as you see the brown mass of pixelated fury running in circles above
>anxiety climbing even further when you notice that you need to go underwater and manage not to die looking for a lever to go on
>big ass bear is still on your mind, you know you'll have to deal with him later, if you don't drown that is

Fuck that picture

>>717504772
He is, the most correct anon in this board

>>717506156
You also have to consider the technical limitations of the PS1/Saturn and that developers weren't yet familiar with the hardware. I remember reading somewhere that Core Design initially wanted to have a more traditional level design but that there was too much technical hurdles. The devs came up with a movement system that allowed them to make large sprawling environments and design the levels in a reasonable amount of time.

>>717506753
it's amazing how a company who had never made a 3D game before and with a development team of less than 10 people were able to make you feel such heavy emotions like that using something with such primitive graphics
it really was a better time...

>>717504772
This. TR controls are amazing, very methodical. Most people that complained about them as a kid skipped the mansion tutorial which explains everything.

>>717506957
>I remember reading somewhere that Core Design initially wanted to have a more traditional level design but that there was too much technical hurdles.
IIRC one of the things they wanted to do with tomb raider 1 was to make each level (greece, peru, etc.) one long level where you could run from each area to each area back and forth whenever you wanted, which was something they were only able to achieve with tomb raider chronicles but one of the criticisms of that game was that the level navigation was sometimes too confusing
an example of hardware limitations being a benefit, i suppose

>>717507207
>tomb raider chronicles
tomb raider the last revelation*

>>717506308
Which game show?

>>717506167
it's an honest take, maybe if i was younger, didn't know any of any other video games and it was my only option, i might feel differently

i'm almost envious of people who are able to enjoy this game

>>717506382
diagonal inputs were an option, and it shouldn't be too complicated to move a character in the direction that's being pressed

>>717506957
i feel like they could have handled things like jumps and turning alot better, and the camera could have moved in a way that didn't inspire motion sickness, some of these are less like technical limitations and more like intentional design choices

they didn't have much info to go off of, and it's not much use complaining about an old game, especially when the remasters probably fixed it

>>717494295
That can be edited with a simple CFG edit

>>717507025
i had the misfortune of playing the tutorial where the guy interrupts you with unskippable cutscenes, i'm still stuck on this tutorial because the game has a rope swinging mechanic

this game implements so many things that look cool in movies yet does it in a way where the game would have been better off as a walking simulator, or a point and click adventure if they really needed more movements

this game does not make you feel like lara croft, it makes you feel like an alien that stole her identity and has to learn how to walk

>>717507305
Dara O Briain's Go 8 Bit

>>717509742
Thanks :)

any lara enjoyers?

>>717512105
Please be normal for once

>>717512396
ok!

what the fuck was his problem?

I replayed all of them earlier this year and this was my tier list from best to worst.

Tomb Raider II
Tomb Raider III
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation
Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider: Chronicles

Tomb Raider II is weak until you drop into the ocean in the middle of nowhere with a ticking lifebar, and everything after that is amazing all the way to the ending.
Tomb Raider III still holds a lot of value for me personally because of the adventuring the globe aspect. It feels like a true grand adventure. I love all of the locations, outfits, cutscenes, this one has some of the most replay value for me out of all of them especially because of the choose your own adventure routing.
Speaking of grand adventures, Tomb Raider IV is the most ambitious title out of them all. The adventure is long. LOOOONG. It's amazing, but holy shit they needed to cut at least 5 to 10% of this game, just shave off a little bit of the fat and I would have made it the #1 game. The Egypt biome does get a little tiring after a while, but at the time this game came out Egypt stuff was popular again in western media so if you were alive then you understand what they were going for.
Angel of Darkness is pure kino. Great voice acting, cool story that makes all the stuff before canon, just rough all around the edges. Another year or two in the oven and it might have been the best game, but the forced deadline and yada, you already know the deal.
Tomb Raider I think had the opposite effect on me that 2 did; I think it starts off strong and peaks early and as the game went on I just felt more and more fatigued. Some of the most memorable enemies and locations in the entire series, but by the end the levels just would never end.
Tomb Raider V a great sandwich with shit for the bun. The base/sub and black isle/teenager chapter are amazing but the Rome and office building chapter are terrible.

Now proceed to tell me I'm wrong and have bad taste.

>>717513189
>his

>>717506983
>with a development team of less than 10 people
18 people worked on the game

i got past the rope swing, but now i'm at the race and it's confusing, what's the point of designing all of these big levels if the player is too busy being too confused amd frustrated to enjoy them?

>>717514730
They really shit the bed with IV. The levels are so big they needed to be broken up into sections with loading screens in-between making exploration very tedious. Not to mention that they removed the ability for Lara to interact with an object if you don't have the right item so you can't even make a mental note of where to return to if you find something. It was the first game I had to resort to using a guide.

>>717504248
Anniversary could've been great if the platforming wasn't so streamlined, also if you have auto grab enabled you can miss a lot of easy jumps.

>>717516738
wow i didn't even know this

>>717490802
I think they did a decent job but the original graphics have so much more charm

>>717491978
There's no girl like Lara

>>717498630
>>717499794
sauce please?

>>717490319 (OP)
let me guess.
You need more?

>>717491978
>>717518235
Too big boobs for someone who climbs so much

>>717490802
Most modern gamers have had any sense of aesthetics beat out of them by a decade of Unreal 4 and 5 slop - and even before that with brown and bloom CoD clones.
The 'remaster' is full of garbage AI upscaled textures that don't even tile properly, but you're supposed to look over that because the maps use a grid system and vidya gaems hard k? );

>>717495873
>nude cheat code

That's fake FYI. They didn't include any such code, that's just a mod. They included a code in Tomb Raider 2, but it just makes you explode.

>>717518561
The boobs help her with balance

>>717493263
She's attractive.

>>717491978
>>717518235
I always used to think she was hot, but now I can't unsee her as having IDF bimbo plastic surgery face.

>>717520420
So Lara stopped being hot for you because you're an anti-semite? Okay, makes sense

>>717522135
>OY VEY!
lmao

>>717522135
Shalom!

>>717522247
>it's the jews fault I'm gay

Just got done playing Legend for the first time. I assume it's next on the remaster plate since those games are canon again in the new unified timeline l, but was in the TR mood so figured why not.

Holy casualization Batman. It was fun enough but it was like 4 hours long, the nigger and the poncey bong would not stop yammering on throughout, and the plot was nonsense.

Is Underworld worth playing?

>>717527805
>new unified timeline
wasn't it cancelled?
>Is Underworld worth playing?
Judge for yourself

>>717527805
>games are canon again in the new unified timeline

Anon that shit will never work, Classic Lara and NuLara are completely different people with different motivations.

Crystal Dynamics is trying to cash in on the classic Lara idea but they don't want to fully commit to it.

Remember they never wanted the remasters of TR1-6 to even happen.

>>717531197
Why the fuck are her legs so short?

>>717531352
It's the model of "unified" Lara from Dead by Daylight.

I sincerely hope this isn't how she looks in the next TR game.

>>717504772
I like to think of it as something like a technical platformer. You're not just pressing A and jumping all over the place. You got to plan your movements and see them play out. It's also supposed to be in the vein of classic games like Prince of Persia where movement is very technical and you have to plan things out or else you die.

>>717531352
Heroic
>>717531197
vs Dumpy art infographic required.

>>717531197
Have they given up on unifying the games then? I wasn't aware.

I'm struggling to think of any major plot issues that might arise though? All the events from Classic, LAU and Survivor could quite feasibly coexist with some timeline shuffling.

I fucking love Tomb Raider 1 so fucking much bros. I've tried over and over again to play 2 but it just doesn't feel the same. I always get 3 or 4 levels in before I drop it because I'm not having fun and I just go back to TR1.

>>717531996
Her character and personality from classic era and survivor doesn't match up at all.

Classic Lara is an adrenaline junkie and has no morals about grave robbing and adding shit to her personal collection.

>157 posts
>ctrl+f horse
>phrase not found
what the fuck? did i shift dimensions?

>>717490319 (OP)
best tomb raider = tomb raider 3
worst tomb raider = all those after

>>717532492
Please do something about your porn addiction, Anon. We're worried about you.

>>717532535
im too far gone sadly

>>717532492
This is a Tomb Raider thread not a gooner thread.

You might try the adult gif board on this website for your daily goon.

>>717532492
This is a classic Lara thread. She doesn't need depraved 3D porn animations to be appreciated.

>>717532005
A common sentiment about 2 is that it's the wost of the three. Also last boss looks dumb af hhh.

>>717490319 (OP)
Good times. Got TR3 for Christmas back in the day.

Imagine a tomb raider x max payne game. Starring Lady Lara Croft of course

>>717536928
the best timeline would have been max payne as tomb raider and lara croft as the max payne protagonist