Thread 717495667

Do you think there’s any hope for a decent Vampire game in the future? Likes of Baldur's Gate 3 devs would work Vampire Bloodlines game?

Also i miss her

Bloodlines 2 is going to be the Cyberpunk 2077 of vampire games and basically sabotage the genre for anyone else going forward.

>>717495667 (OP)
>Do you think there’s any hope for a decent Vampire game in the future?
lol no
vampires were already ruined by twilight in the 10s

Should I play masquerade?

You weren't supposed to start shilling until 13th.

>>717495891
>vampires were already ruined by twilight in the 10s
Funnily enough, early in Bloodlines 2, you get a pep talk on things like Twilight.

>>717495914
No, it'll make you depressed knowing that a janky buggy mess of a game from the early 2000s has more soul and heart put into it than 99% of games today, and that we'll never go back to that time.

>>717495667 (OP)
This doesnt say much other than that dialogue options uses short hands. The actual lines might be as good when she actually says them.

>>717496026
>This doesnt say much other than that dialogue options uses short hands
It's also untrue because they rewrote how the dialogue system works back in 2024.

>>717495667 (OP)
>Likes of Baldur's Gate 3 devs would work Vampire Bloodlines game?
>esltard wants even more faggot vampire shit
Not surprised.
>>717495891
Only thing ruined is your brain. Letting some shitty 2000s series live rent free in your head and permanently color your perception of a genre is extra pathetic.

>>717496091
>Letting some shitty 2000s series live rent free in your head
He said twilight, not vtmb unc

>>717495891
>vampires were already ruined by twilight in the 10s
Vampires were ruined long before then with gay shit like Anne Rice's faggot vampires, Dracula being turned into a mega-simp for Harker's cheating whore of a wife Mina, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, etc., etc.

>>717496000
If I did should I pick schizos?

>>717496091
OP here. Reason why i mentioned Baldur Gate 3 devs is because they did somewhat decent job with it. Devs of similar or higher quality might recreate what Bloodlines feel properly...maybe

>>717496000
i'm both blessed and cursed with the experience of living through 1995-2008 as a gamer, until i exit this flesh prison. VTMB even influenced my music taste for a while.

it is very depressing knowing how much regression has occurred, but it is still worth playing. even in its day, it still stood out for having a lot of soul

>>717496284
malkavians are amazing. i frequently wonder about, and wish i had played one in my first playthrough. i honestly don't know if they're better for a first or second playthrough.

>>717495667 (OP)
Sure just give me all of your money and I will make a Vampire game in a better setting.

>>717496831
kek

>>717496284
They literally will spoil you every ending

>>717495667 (OP)

Why are modern game devs allergic to giving you dialogue prompts that have the words you say? Is that illegal now? Is it a crime? To enjoy a succulent captioned dialogue option??

>>717496281
I was going to call bullshit because of the castlevania show and total war warhammer but then I remembered Alucard got fucked in the ass, one of the main vampires is a butch lesbian and no modern writer gives a damn about warhammer

>>717499252
It would take ages to read through all the options otherwise

>>717495667 (OP)
HATE vampires

>>717496284
>>717496691
I did my first run as a Malk because I love unconventional schizo babble and it was 100% worth it made my second run as a tremere feel enlightening when I realized what the dialogue options where really saying and I wasn't that far off from my initial guess

>>717499252
>Why are modern game devs allergic to giving you dialogue prompts that have the words you say?
They're not. OP is posting (at this point) very old footage of Bloodlines 2 when it had a different dialogue label system.

>>717495914
yes

>>717502281
What clan

>>717503307
Watch Sseth's video about it. He talks about clans too https://youtu.be/ZAIR9faz9pM?si=GvT0Jdjnjscf8nxR

Also lol

>>717503459
I did but he's a faggot and I don't trust his opinions

>>717503307
Malk if you aren't a pussy, anything else is fine the only clan I would never recommend on a first playthrough is the nosferatu

>>717503924
He sometimes recommends really decent games like SYNTHETIK

>>717504094
I like it when he reviews semi-unknown or obscure but fun games, reviewing shit like Elden ring or Elin or anything else that's well-known and that everyone is already playing feels like a waste

I want to believe so bad in this, but i know it will be utter shit from all the rewrites, drama and bullshit we have seen.
It is going to be the Dick Sukum of vampire games.

>>717503459
>blatant lie about god giving cain superpowers
i guess this is how Kenshifags felt

>>717504348
Vampire kinda in same limbo as Deus Ex, but worse

>>717503307
Toreador or Brujah if you want the best discipline in the game (Celerity). Malkavian or Nosferatu if you want the most clan-specific dialogue. Tremere if you "want to play a vampire game", but always play the nearest equivalent to a D&D Wizard in every RPG you play.

>>717504431
Who the fuck even owns the rights to Deus Ex atm?
Mankind Divided basically buried the franchise.
As for VTMB, i think it will go one of 2 ways.
Either its shit for VTMB cult fans, by making it too much like Mass Effect,Fallout 4. Or they push normiefags away and do a cult game for 500 sales.

>>717505023
>Deus Ex atm
Embracer Group, they cancelled a Deus Ex game recently

>>717495667 (OP)
>The WoD setting is squandered and fucked harder by its creators than WotC ever did D&D
>The only people still heavily invested lack the spark to make anything great

It's over forever.

>>717495667 (OP)
>words words words
leftist game

Why won't they ditch Bloodlines 2 and start over from 0? With another studio or give it japanese studio maybe

>>717508716
>Why won't they ditch Bloodlines 2 and start over from 0?
They did. What exactly do you think is releasing in 2 months?

>>717495891
lol people are still seething about twilight?

>>717508716
They did that. The new version looks somehow worse than the previous one.

>>717504649
Is clan specific dialogue fun for first playthrough?

>>717511089
no it doesn't lol

>>717505762
>Embracer Group, they cancelled a Deus Ex game recently

ufff, dodged that one

>>717495891
>vampires were already ruined by twilight in the 10s
you know twilight didn't invent faggy vampires right
twilight didn't do anything in the 2010s that interview with a vampire wasn't doing in the 1980s

>>717512334
kind of insulting to Dishonored desu

'Bloodlines 3 [Will be] Done by Someone Else:' Paradox Responds to Future of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines After Sequel Debacle [Update] https://www.ign.com/articles/paradox-chinese-room-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-sequel-someone-else

>>717511192
it is better for subsequent playthroughs
Malkavian dialogue options are full of spoilers
Nosferatu have to jump through some extra hoops but they turn the game into a comedy

>>717496394
>larianslop
>somewhat decent
BG3 is like all other larian games, decent to good opening act followed by absolute garbage.

What triggers this dialogue?

>>717512701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYovbdepJ68
Give me just 2% of memorable shit Bloodlines had.

>>717495667 (OP)
vampires are fundamentally a gay creature
you'll never get anything good out of that

>>717512865
Probably threatening her (think that option is in the conversation after the spooky hotel), then doubling down on it.

Call me retarded but I somehow doubt Bloodlines 2 is going to be that bad. The original game is total shit in most aspects. It has memorable characters, great armosphere and soul but everything else is shit or mediocre. Writing and story is ok at best. Combat is extremely bad and the second half of the game is basically just the awful combat. The game gives you zero reason to side with the Camarilla. Exploration sucks ass because you have to trigger quest flags to make content appear in the various locations and there is basically nothing interesting in the world to find except for quest givers.

The characters are great but they have only very little dialog and content each.

>>717496091
>pretending that shitty 2000 series had no effect on the genre
your mind is an unrentable garbage dump

>>717512938
Netflix Castlevania can eat shit I'm glad people are finally moving past it, Alucard getting assfucked was so goddamn stupid

VtMB Total Bastard Playthrough (Ventrue) . https://youtu.be/gQ07vxSXkqE?si=j-srrZQBS28yRuG-

>>717495667 (OP)
Vampire series by Whitewolf? Fuck no.
Vampiore game in general? Sure.
I'm looking forward to Vampire Syndicates: Gangs of Moonfall personally.

>>717513548
>Combat is extremely bad and the second half of the game is basically just the awful combat.
ture but activision only let them playtest it for three weeks.

>>717495667 (OP)
That Dhampir game by the ex CDPR devs looks promising.

>>717513548
>AI slop-tier dialogue
>combat somehow worse than the original
>entire cast looks like extras from a drag show

>>717515259
wrong

>>717515123
>Dhampir game
?

>>717515775
The Blood Of Dawnwalker

>>717515441
Do you "guerrilla marketers" get paid hourly or by post?

How did V-Rising turn out? Seemed pretty cool back when I tried it.

>>717516215
It's good but the Vampire stuff feels more sprinkled on top of the generic fantasy ARPG.

>>717516082
shut up nigger
>>717516215
its ok, more fun coop but the castle building part of the gameplay was cool

>>717495667 (OP)
I think it's going to suck because it's going to take place in modern times and also be a product of modern times. It won't be charming at all and the music is going to suck.

>>717496284
Do NOT pick Malkavian or Nosferatu as your clan for the first playthrough.
>Malk (shizos)
They are fantastic for a second playthrough. Their dialogues pretty much spoil everything in hindsight, but it's really fun when you already know the general gist of the whole story and the main characters.
>Nosferatu
They are forced to traverse underground. A fun gameplay but only for those who played the game for like 3-4 times already and know the map by heart. I genuinely can't imagine what someone would think of the game if they'd play them for the first time.

>>717495667 (OP)
TCR actually captured the essence of the original Bloodlines, which leaned heavily into Action-RPG and combat sequences

Larian would make it another gay CRPG where you use dialogue options to molest a werewolf

>>717516504
>They are fantastic for a second playthrough. Their dialogues pretty much spoil everything in hindsight, but it's really fun when you already know the general gist of the whole story and the main characters.
I never understood this opinion, its not like the whispers tell you openly what will happen, and the cryptic riddle vibe to them only makes it better when you have no idea whats happening

>>717516436
Cybperunk and modern vampire setting are one of the few settings that can make a little bit woke work.

>>717516508
No one thought the action parts were good in Bloodlines and literally everyone just wanted more dialog and non combat options.

>>717495667 (OP)
It's ridiculous how much I miss the HSL version now that I've seen how TCR handles the role playing aspects.

>>717495667 (OP)
no. culture is too gay.

>>717516508
The original VTM had shit combat, but this really doesn't look good either.

>>717495667 (OP)
If it's done with the same grit and soul as Bloodlines and the old ttg

>>717517059
>but this really doesn't look good either.
It does actually. TCR nailed it
Hardsuit build does suck
>>717516853
>No one thought the action parts were good in Bloodlines
It doesn't matter, most of the questlines were about combat or combat with the option of stealth. The dialogue system was already barebones with minimal skill check that wouldn't allow to make it your playstyle. You could not make a non combat build and work through the game in the original, it had several sections outright ignoring that option.

voiced protag limitations strike again

>it doesn't matter
People want a Bloodlines game that plays to its strengths and not to its weaknesses.

God I wish I were a Nosferatu.

>>717517616
No, people are posers that didn't understand or even play the original. None of that shit >>717516954 was in VTMB

>>717517580
>ex-Bioware narrative quality designer

Crazy that paradox is spending more to shill this dogshit here than actually market it to normies.

>>717517720
The original is a shit game, mate. It's just all vampire media is awful so it still somehow managed to become the best vampire work.

>>717517898
I'm not your mate, nigger

Beware. The game informer samefag is posting here. He’s trying to be subtler now that he’s been BTFO so many times

>>717495667 (OP)
no

>>717517864
>>717518037
schizoid

>>717517898
I liked it when patched and TCR bloodlines 2 looks like it will improve it

>>717518553
I hope they make mid combat blood sucking smoother or make you less depended on it because it was always such a flow breaker.

>>717518686
You'll be pleased to know they've positively compared it to Doom's "glory kills", and it's basically mandatory for using powers in their system.
>>717518553
>frenzy
>unironically
ggnore

my wife

>>717518686
I liked it. You had to be smart about it but it was basically a way to reset the fight if you nailed it
Feeding will be much faster in 2 so I think the rewards will be much lower

>>717518783
>>frenzy
>>unironically
What kind of c*ck plays with high humanity?

>>717495667 (OP)
Vampires in 2025: We literally kill people and drink their blood, but we would never, ever, EVER say or do anything bad to LGHDTV's and minorities.

>>717518910
Cute ones!

the SJW era permanently handicapped the entire game industry, holy shit. You still have abominations like this being stillbirthed out all these years later. The game is going to be vanilla dogshit.

>>717518830
The enemy AI was stupid as fuck so not really. It was always extremely easy to replenish blood pools mid combat. I looked forward to fighting the Sabbat because I expected far less humans but then the Sabbat had tons of humans among their ranks, seemingly just so you could replenish your blood pool.

>>717519381
Wasn't it said that the Sabbat turn everyone into a vampire to create an army that is low quality but high quantity? They seemingly only had humans and experienced vampires among their ranks that could use high level vampire skills so they were exactly the opposite of their description.

I don't like when they give you the cheeky response but all it does is cause a loop back and you have to answer it with the "real" answer.

>>717521719
You could have at least posted a screenshot for your faggy bump.

>>717521867
dont tell me what to do

I fell for the meme game, started as Brujah and it wasn't very good

>>717496284
Yes, the retards who told people "do not pick the most interesting class" have always been wrong.

>>717522578
It's not wrong, Malkavian is way better if you have the contrast to how it normally is. But the game is just not good enough to replay multiple times.

>>717523398
im gay btw if that matters

>>717523718
Yeah it makes your opinion even more valuable for a vampire game, especially on malkavians. Only thing that could raise the bar even further is if you were trans.

>>717515915
oh

>>717495667 (OP)
only hope is that it's moddable and some autist makes it playable in about a decade

>>717496284
Yes malk as first playthrough is incredible if you like weird shit and being confused. You can't really get that kind of experience in any other rpg

>>717526313
indeed

>>717512829
lol

>>717500145
...for a mutt with barely functional Common Core (il)literacy.

>>717503459
Buy an ad.

>>717495667 (OP)
You forget that there is only two outcomes to any dialogue in Bloodlines.

>>717532280
its not about the illusion of choice, its more how about you would character would response in the dialogue
its like being able to say "uh, thanks, DAD" to Strauss even though its the same meaning as "hmm, i see, thank you"

>>717495667 (OP)
I'm optimistic about blood of the dawnwalker

Vampire the maquerada redemption 2 by Larian would be GOTY

>>717532782
Ching chong ping pong

>>717532532
holy shit i had a stroke typing this apparently, but you get the idea

>>717495667 (OP)
Paradox owns the IP so no.

>>717532782
>by Larian
They would turn the grit into cringe.

>>717532782
Larian makes everything it touches gay

>>717532782
>larian
dude sex!

>>717518830
>You had to be smart about it
How? You just chugged

>>717517898
there's tons of good vampire media, the problem is most people just never look outside of what's thrown in front of their faces in modern pop culture.

>>717533547
wod is both cringe and grit

>>717535849
>>717536005
very fitting for wod, I know you have an alergic contrarian reaction when you hear the name of a popular thing, but they are the best existing game company for this kind of project

>>717533547
I'm sure the Chinese Troon will do a better job

>>717495667 (OP)
>Do you think there’s any hope for a decent Vampire game in the future?

>>717536180
>very fitting for wod
Can't wait for the Garou fucking
>alergic contrarian reaction when you hear the name of a popular thing
You are right, Vampire should be altered to reach a mainstream audience. We have to have the line on the graph go up, maybe a short animated series to accompany the new game so those funkopops really sell. A Sabbat dating sim should be the end goal.
>best existing game company for this kind of project
If that is true then a new game company needs to be formed, it's not that difficult if you hire actual workers for the game and not hr, marketing and customer research cunts.

>>717537306
wod was the secondmost popular tabletop series at one point, world of darkness did reach "mainstream audience"

>>717537306
numbers going up is a good thing actually, you'd understand if you weren't an uneducated moron

>>717537608
>secondmost popular tabletop
>mainstream
In that genre it is mainstream, video games are a completely separate situation. Warhammer is undisputed in wargaming circles but with video games it only started to appeal to the mainstream with Space Marine 2, both Dawn of War and Bloodlines really took off in fame years after their release. Bloodlines now being popular with what I would call the video game mainstream audience does not being I want to see remake because it would altered to fit it's new fans rather then being true to the original for example.
>>717538586
So true, I love what Disney has done to Star Wars. More live action Superhero movies really make the genre wonderful, especially with Superman discussions moving from Christopher Reeve to what actor and director combo the hordes of Indian moviegoers prefer.

>>717539054
you already made your own interpretation of what mainstream is, its useless arguing with you

>>717539332
holy reddit

>>717539054
but Disney made SW numbers go down, when numbers were going up the anime industry produced the most high quality OVAs, Hollywood produced timeless classic after timeless classic.

>>717539537
What exactly do the Salubri have? Is it something between the Tremere and the Old Clan Tzimisce?

>>717536154
Like? In my experience when people say there is cool vampire media then they always mean something that barely has anything to do with vampires like Blade or some anime.

>>717539876
>What exactly do the Salubri have?
Guilt

>>717539876
the indomitable human spirit

>>717496284
>>717500257
>>717516658
>>717522578
>>717526313
Malk as a first playthrough suck ass because youre replacing well-written dialogue with Pickle Rick humour. You're losing half of what makes the game interesting (The dialogue, the immersion and the atmosphere).
Theyre decent as a second playthrough or if you dont care about any of what ive written above and youre the kind of guy who really liked playing High on Life.

Nosferatus on the other hand, are kino asf if you want an unconventional weird playthrough.

so they removed the healer/support discipline from Salubri in V5? So they have literally nothing, only downsides?

>>717495667 (OP)
>likes of Baldur's Gate 3 devs would work Vampire Bloodlines
why the fuck would I want turn-based ass-vomit gamedevs to touch my imsim rpg you worthless tranny?

>>717541392
They wouldn't. They made it very clear they are not going to again work for some jew IP to give up a huge percentage for basically nothing. World of Darkness is not even a popular tabletop.

>>717541392
Do you think Larian only made turn based games?

>>717496284
yes because you probably won't replay the game and they are the most fun to play

>>717499158
>>717516504
no they don't spoil anything if you don't already know the ending. and who the fuck cares about the ending anyway

>>717540743
this is objectively wrong, malk dialogue is no just wacky it's filled with metaphores and obscure historical/mythological references which you will have fun reading if you are at all cultured.

>>717541392
Bg3 is a better imsim than most

>>717540743
>Pickle Rick humour.
you're insecure.

>>717541695
Yes
Divinity: Dragon Commander was half turn-based so ignoring that they haven't made a game with real gameplay since 2010 (which was 15 years ago btw)

>>717505842
This is what I really liked about the Malkavian playthrough. You're just spitting schizo shit that NPCs are like "What the fuck?", but then it dawns on them that you're actually spitting some hard truths. You're both a Reddit quirky chungus and some demented seer who knows secret truths.

Too bad the retards involved with the IP ignore all that and only see the stop signs being talked to and how "problematic" it is for people with mental illness.

>>717541995
>Yes
>then acknowledging ego draconis which was real time
no they didn't make only turn based games?

>>717541881
>controlling a board of tiny figurines
>immersive
oh yeah, just like irl when I grab my own neck and drag myself around to do shit
not to mention the handholding bullshit of having a radiobuddy implanted in your head. can't have you take two steps without giving you some social stimulation. wouldn't want to you be forced to think for yourself to half a fucking millisecond

>>717542185
>You're both a Reddit quirky chungus and some demented seer who knows secret truths.
that's still what they are in V5

>>717542261
Minus any entertaining writing, yeah

>played Night Road
>played Parliament of Knives
>started then dropped Coteries of New York
>haven't yet played polish lesbo game
Night Road was my personal favourite, I want an experience like that but from a Sabbat perspective - Tzimisce would play and read very well in my view. Parliament was good though I wasn't overly fond of the overarching story, it definitely had it's moments though with those like Bouchard.

>>717542204
There are actual choices and simulation aspects though.

Vampire Bloodlines has literally zero simulation. Hell, it's fucking cringe as fuck how 95% of sound effects in the game are just lazily inserted into the game as generic background noise that is supposed to fool you that the world is alive. Shit is anti simulation.

>>717542204
you are a mental midget, nigger

>>717542372
>haven't yet played polish lesbo game
play her game now, then play the third game to finish the story
PoK was better than NR imo, I hate the malysian obvioud author self insert

>>717542372
I'll check out Night Road. Thanks.

>>717542372
>>717542747
What is polish lesbo game?

>>717542849
Shadows of New York

>>717512865
Low Humanity actually have exclusive dialog. Some are pretty brutal.

>>717542372
Old time DM here... from where I stand the trouble with Sabbat games in general is that you need to completely ignore huge chunks of the setting for it to be manageable (if only, the paths and the factions informed by them), or you need players that are very much aware of those things, and on the same page.
Sabbat vampires are supposed to barely think like humans anymore, having suffered very heavy indoctrination.
In interactive fiction form, this would lead to a lot of "tell, don't show", which would very much make the player feel deprived of role-playing ownership.

>>717540743
Malk as a first playthrough works very well if coming from the tabletop. I don't think it should be so hard if you're not, most of the hints about the main plot aren't hard to decypher (I mean, to pick one "daughter of janus" isn't exactly subtle), so it's mainly an issue of how much attention one is willing to give. Your mileage may vaey, I guess.

>>717542979
Is it actually any good or it another bit of horrendous dogshit that people only like because girls are gay in it?

>>717542372
>I want an experience like that but from a Sabbat perspective
Why are they so afraid of giving us this? It would be so kino.

Like you don't have to have babies roasting over a fire on spits. You can just have one of the more humane vampires learning the ins and outs of their weird semi-religious micro culture and deciding to stay or run. Shovelhead really leans in to the newbie experience these game seem to love to portray.

>>717540743
it's mostly cryptic and occult stuff, sure there's some pickle rick type stuff but those kind of dialogue options are kind of rare

>>717543053
it was ok, didn't really finish it
it's worth it just to start the game and listen to that first track at the main menu
seriously

Are there mages in the game? It crazy how there seems not a single work out there that has WoD mages, I literally don't even know what they are just that they exist.

>>717543028
I'm just sad for the "intimidation" skill checks that seem to be impossible to pass.

>>717543028
https://youtu.be/0_vY7lQwjpc?si=quPy501je2VXHOkX yeah

>>717543053
its a cool whodunit detective story visual novel imo
>because girls are gay in it?
that also helps

>>717540036
read the classics? dracula of course but also carmilla and my fav the family of the vourdalak. how about hammer and other euro films? all the christopher lee draculas, black sunday (close enough) the night of the devils, herzog's nosferatu. habit (1997), low budget but has that urban decay feeling & look that really fits wod

>hey I like this game and setting, what else is there
>only absolute dog shit or you can read rule books like some autist
Is there a more mismanaged franchise?

>>717543053
Depends on how much you love WoD vampire and VNs. I mostly liked it, but I'm highly amenable to both. Main character is actually an interesting persona for once.

Though I didn't like the first VN all that much and haven't finished the 3rd, yet. So that might tell you I don't LOVE VNs. It's to short and linear though.

>>717543210
there is ONE mage interactive fiction that was utter shit, and ONE mage side character in Night Road

>>717543053
I didn't much like it myself, but then I don't get VN as a genre. Too little interactions to be worthwhile as far as I'm concerned.
That said, my friends that are into the genre found it decent enough.

>>717543383
You can make your own Vampire game right now, just use V5 :)

>>717543182
OST is so fucking good

>>717543318
Are those all vampires as the villain? Not saying these are bad, just not what I am looking for as I'm more interested in vampire society kind of things.

>>717540743
It's almost all literature and mythological references, they did an excellent job at doing the POV of a mad prophet and there's nothing quite like it in vidya.

>>717543318
hey do you have a link to family of the vourdalak in original french?

>>717543739
then say that up front

Don't vampires get bodied by pretty much everything else in the setting if it's not antediluvians or Cain? How do they even survive?

>>717543862
https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/La_Famille_du_Vourdalak

>>717543889
they integrated themselves into society like a true 1% parasite

>>717543989
thanks
tried 2 different wiki pages and didn't see this

>>717542747
I honestly forget about the homo hipster asian muslim and it's like a flashbang when he turns up, I have never once gone down either his personal route or his political one.
>>717543034
It might just be my desire to see Tzimisce as playable in a video game but I would accept a linear vn at this point. Do you have any further comments on Sabbat stuff (either as enemies or player characters)? I find that sort of stuff very interesting.
>>717542774
Don't trust the Mexicans
>>717543161
Honestly I think it is simply a case of them not being able to comprehend the Sabbat as anything other then "they seem like murderhobos so they must be npc hostiles". That character sheet of a Ventrue knight fighting for the Sabbat is always a good read. I like the dichotomy of Tzimisce politeness and protocol, I think that would a really cool experience to start as a shovelhead and try to adapt to those ancient customs which were frankly never meant to include you as you were not meant to enter into them.

>>717544108
To me it felt like everyone and their mother knows they exist + the tons of infighting with anarchs, sabbat and kuei-jin. Hunters being on their dicks constantly and being highly successful. But maybe that's just Los Angeles and other provinces are far more successful in the masquerade.

>>717543889
desu cross-splat isn't really 'in the setting' in the same sense as other properties, shouldn't take it too seriously or try to make everything they each says all make sense as a unified setting.

>>717542372
I'm thinking the people hoping from its title ("Shadow & Silk) that one of the two Bloodlines 2 DLC clan is going to be Lasombra are way too hopeful (I mean, Nosferatu works too), but wouldn't that be intresting to wake up a Sabbat Elder at a time where the sect basically imploded?

>>717544239
*as you were not meant to enter into them as you were expected to be dust within the month.

>>717543383
You just now that it is in fact an amazing setting just by the fact that anything made it immediately sparks interest even when it's not very good, but it is really cursed.

>>717544343
I think they said something about one of the DLC clans massively changing the gameplay (you need to search this one i might be asspulling), so it very well might be Nos

>>717544343
Personally I have written off Bloodlines 2 but that would reawaken a level of interest (though not faith in it being done well) within me. I think that would only really be worth it to me if you had the option of actively trying to get the band back together though the concept itself is cool.

>>717544239
I don't know that I hae anything to add on the Sabbat - or any part of the game really - in a vacuum.
That said, I'm thinking making Tzimisce playable in video game form is always going to to come with the heavy damocles sword of adapting Vicissitude. The tabletop version is barely manageable with heavy DM intervention. A video game version would probably need to throw any ghoul making/heavy body modification on the wayside. Making it more flourish than anything (twisted bodie of dead enemies, for example).
Whatever any dev does, I'm thinking people are going to fall on them like birds of prey.

>>717544343
>>717544503
Theres zero chance its Nos. The target audience for this game is unfuckable fat women who read fanfics, 0 of whom play nosferatu. Its gonna be Lasombra.
Not to mention that a Nosferatu clan would require major rewrites (unless they just go the Nightroad route and have the nossie use Mask-of-a-thousand-face to look like a normal human 99% of the time but then whats the point of having nosferatu)

>>717543210
old wod Mage is so fucking weird, I can barely conceptualize in my mind what a game is supposed to be like let alone a video-game adaptation, nWod mage is more structurally sound, but most people find it more boring, I could see it being adapted.

>>717544991
>unfuckable fat women who read fanfics
usually we simply call those vampire fans

>>717544991
>unfuckable fat women who read fanfics
boy you should have seen the average vampire table during 90s, prime way to score prime fat goth pussy

>>717543210
Theres a mage character in Bloodlines. He owns a shop in chinatown. Its subtle but heavily implied and if you use auspex on him or play malkavian you pretty much confirm it

>>717545251
I can only imagine...

>>717544612
One very big probelm this game has so far is how close to their chest they've kept the plot/writing. What very little they've shown so far I personally found lackluster, but that's the thing, there's so very little it's hard to forge a decent opinion.
For example, seeing mentions of Constantinople in the game makes me feel, on top of some the interviews, that someone on the writing team did the homework... but's there's not enough to confirm anything.

>>717495667 (OP)
There is always hope. Bloodlines 2 isn't it though.
I would recommend the choose your own adventure games, at the very least Night Road, but Out for Blood and Parliament of Knives are also enjoyable. I've heard some people here say they actually prefer Parliament of Knives, even.

>>717545273
I don't think it's very clear what Mr. Ox is. He might be a asian nephandi or something. But it's also possibly more likely he's a literal asian demon/akuma.

The fact his name is a reference to a real historical chinese mythological being associated with the underworld suggest something less conventional.

>>717545663
>Out for Blood
the thinblood in that game is a cutie, a shame that the writing is kinda teen drama tier

>>717545251
>prime
>fat

>>717545567
>One very big probelm this game has so far is how close to their chest they've kept the plot/writing.
And who knows how many rewrites they had?

>>717542185
they trully believe people with mental illness make up a considerable percentage of their target audience.
>>717503913
yes thats what the "cast button" does. you select magic and cast it with the "cast button". is he retarded?
>>717504290
elin became popular cause he reviewed elona+ back in 2017
I liked his videos when spent half the video talking about how he had fun with the game and the other half explaining inside jokes, now he just reads off mechanics from a list and it sounds so boring.

>>717545937
That too, with the Fabien rewrite somewhat worrying.
The PI idea is sound enough. There's /very/ little margin for error in the execution though (and I mean writing and acting both).

>>717546018
imagine a tzimisce architect

>>717495667 (OP)
CDPR should've developed this

First time playing, I obviously agree with Camarilla but I'm just gonna go Anarch for the slim chance of Damsel pussy

>>717546292
>There's /very/ little margin for error in the execution though (and I mean writing and acting both).
They need to avoid sassy quips and make him talk as little as possible

>>717546431
that's how they get ya

>>717495667 (OP)
>Likes of Baldur's Gate 3 devs would work Vampire Bloodlines game?
I'm only here to tell you to go fuck yourself

>>717546431
Rawdogging damsel and whispering "One Prince. One Camarilla. One Purpose. Heil Lacroix" in her ear just as you bust

>>717546562
>Heil Lacroix
gay

>>717546561
why?

>>717546431
>agree with Camarilla
enjoy the boot, drone

>>717546431
Anon, I...

>>717546562
At least pick... I don't know, Hardestadt the Elder, or something.

>>717546562
>This is what Lacroix simps actually believe

>>717546760
You could say any giganigga ventrue and it wouldnt elicit a stronger reaction in Damsel than the name of Lacroix would, simply because he's the direct and immediate figure of authority in her life that represents everything she hates. its not that complicated

>>717546562
He's a frog, anon. Some things undeath do not overcome.

>>717546671
Can't say I'm a fan, but again, matter of execution. True Faith can make it work.

>>717495914
yes but wait until summer is over, it's extremely autumncore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_F4YewmOR0

>>717546671
Whenever I see some abbo looking black character in a vidya game these days that Blue Swede song Hooked on a Feeling starts playing but instead of OOGA CHAKA OOGA OOGA the track goes OOGA BOOGA OOGA OOGA OOGA BOOGA OOGA OOGA OOGA BOOGA OOGA OOGA AH CANT STOP DIS THIEVIN

>>717546949
yeah, but it's gay af so it cancels out the value of making her seethe

>>717546953
But anon...I am a frog aswell

>>717496281
Sounds like even Carmilla is too woke for your taste, what kinda vampire media does a puritan like you recommend then? ancient slavic folktales told by gippsies in romania?

Also, I really don't get why everyone calls immortality a curse. Like woe is me I have to suck off some homeless qq, like bitch you're in your fucking 20s forever, you can suck off guys till the day you die which is never.

>>717547258
Even that is too much. Brujah and gangrel are two aspects of White european romanticism. The only black vampires I can tolerate are Tremere (because that are usurpers anyway) and the african breeds like Naglopers

>>717547453
go play the thousand year old vampire solo rpg, then come back to me
>>717547471
shut up nigga lmao

>>717547608
*rapes you violently with my 16 inch purple Garou cock*

Anyone played Prelude I and II, the mods for VTMB where you play as a Hunter? I played Prelude 1 so far im about to start 2. Its very obvious that its a fan mod but I think its decently done and im having fun

>>717547821
Only Prelude 1, its definitely interesting, locations are good, really good actually

>>717546712
The game's meta voice tries so hard to make the Camarilla seme like a bad organization but honestly they're pretty reasonable. Like even in bloodlines objectively, if you survive, you get a nice apartment, powerful contacts, and a hot ghoul being a toady for the Camarilla. Only because the game demands an end does it force a storyline where it can go sour with a dangerous prince. Most in his position would be planning conservatively to the level of decades ahead. Also realistically, you could just jet to another city, pay some ez homage, and set up shop with your hot redhead servant/gf and a boatload of experience.

Fun fucking times. Being a low to mid vampire is just real life but better, with slightly more lethal rules you can navigate if you take them seriously.

>>717495667 (OP)
this didn't work in Fallout 4, why would anyone do this now?

>>717548208
The Cam seems a little empty as a conclusion unless you're Tremere or to a much lesser extent Ventrue. You're putting Max in charge which seems like a pretty massive swing in the favor of Tremere with both Lacroix and Groust dead.

Going Anarch or flipping off Nines does feel more like you tipped a small scale in Jihad

>>717548208
Meta is kinda weird because the game calls you neonate/fledgling but since you're filling all five dots so quick and you can use multiple Disciplines at once, gameplay wise you do operate like an 8th gen.

>>717548661
it worked in cyberpunk

>>717495667 (OP)
No. It's a world wonder that BG3 is as good as it is.

>>717548740
>You're putting Max in charge which seems like a pretty massive swing in the favor of Tremere with both Lacroix and Groust dead.
My favorite exchange in the entire game is with Strauss, when he tells you that he serves the clan, Camarilla and Prince, and you ask him "in that order?"

>>717547196
Still worth it, anon. Making her seethe is worth a couple minutes of walking through rainbow hell. Besides, gay af is the meta now-just lean into it ironically until it loops back to being based.

The game should have been made by Larian.

>>717549023
Mostly because your choices hardly ever mattered.
So far the only game I can think that justified the conversation-wheel in its overall game/narrative design and managed to make it work is Alpha Protocol.

>>717549316
Couldn't be an action game but it would be pretty great to play a crew of shmucks, turned to various clans and dealing with the fallout of their second life.

>>717548208
Lacroix just sucks as a prince

Bloodlines was lightning in a bottle, even with a competent and passionate developer team it's never going to happen again

>>717549023
It works in Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 because youre not creating a character, you are playing an already established character with a name and personality.
For example, you cant play a V who is a cold, calculating corpo. V will ALWAYS speak with street slang and be like "holy shit! that was fucking crazy like dayum!". Same for the Witcher, you play Geralt, not a character you created.

>>717549750
Well in the new Bloodlines you're not playing a character you create. You're playing Phyre.

>>717549316
I know youre baiting but a tabletop-inspired VtM game made by Larian would actually rock. I can imagine the various disciplines being applied to their style of turn-based combat

>>717549835
Yep, and thats why I'm mailing anthrax spores to the Paradox HQ

>>717549868
Actually I want The Mage game. I don't like vampires.

>>717549973
Can you give me a QRD on Mage, I actually know nothing about them except they are crazy powerful and serve the technocracy.

>>717549938
Personally I prefer an established character over a blank slate if the writing is halfway decent. I just think it's totally retarded you start as a "young" Elder instead of someone freshly turned to a High Generation.

>>717550075
They don't serve the technocracy, they fight them.

>>717550075
It's urban fantasy setting. You can do anything with it, high fantasy, low fantasy, sci-fi, cyberpunk etc. because high level mages are basically omnipotent.

>>717516508
>>717517498
>guy moves crosshair over enemy
>shoots
>still misses
>absolute jank movement and melee
uhh...do you actually think this looks good? Or by nailed it do you mean in the sense it looks just as awful as the original? Combat in Bloodlines 2 looks god awful

>>717549973
Personally the appeal of mage escapes me compared to the roleplay in Vampire, Changeling, or Demon.

>>717549750
>For example, you cant play a V who is a cold, calculating corpo. V will ALWAYS speak with street slang and be like "holy shit! that was fucking crazy like dayum!"
Uhh...Did you forget in Cyberpunk you literally create your character with options that determine their dialogue? Cyberpunk's /v/ is a literal player surrogate and you do in fact make choices throughout the game. You create his entire background/life, nothing like Geralt, retarded comparison

>>717516508
guns are temporary pick ups, their combat system is worse than in the first one

>>717516508
What's the point of that... Idk, flip?

>>717496394
>did somewhat decent job with it
its good RPG but make no mistake its a horrible BG game. They would do the same with VTMB.

>>717550734

Just like Geralt, V has a pre-established name, a pre-established personality and pre-established friends and acquaintances. Sure you can make a few choices, but its just like how in Witcher 3 you can choose what you want Geralt to say or how you want him to react to a certain situations. Theres a degree of choice but it stays within the limits of Geralt/V's predetermined personality.

Your V has a pre-established canon first name (Vincent or Valerie) much like Geralt. Oh you wanted to roleplay that your V is a japanese girl who interned at Arasaka and eventually was assigned to the Night City division? Too bad, your name is Valerie fuck you.

Your V will always talk like a hoodrat street kid and will always have an impulsive and excited voice. Wanted to roleplay a cold, calculating corpo who speaks softly and with disdain? Too bad, fuck you! You will say "aw fuck this piss is shit fuck fuck gonk ass" and you will like it!

Your V will always be a moralfag. Want to be a "the end justifies the means" sociopath who doesnt care about the suffering of others? Too bad, fuck you! V will whine and cry about every prostitute who gets slapped by her boyfriend.

Want to play a V in control of his emotions? Too bad, fuck you! V will freak out and go "Woah! holy shit!" at anything that happens to him (e.g Delamain ramming his car, etc).

V is not your character. You only think that because they named him/her with a single letter. Replace the letter V with "Bob" for every dialogue in the game and suddenly you realize its not a blank slate its a very defined and very specific character.

>>717516508
gun telekinesis is the cringiest shit ever, what discipline is that suppose to be?

>>717550734
>options that determine their dialogue?
Which ones? The life paths have some minor changes in conversations and basically one intro and one quest each to differentiate them.
Everything else? The character is the same. A Corpo V suddenly forgets things about the standards of living that used to be his/hers and misses points in conversations; often, decisions are taken from your hands and imposed on you. For some reasons, you can't but have that very aggressive reaction to Kurt Hansen (someone not worse than most of the big players you meet in game), or if you're playing female V you can't but gush at River Ward in some of the conversations about him, to give a couple examples.

>>717551573
Thaumaturgy, actually.

>>717495667 (OP)
check VtM Reawakened

>>717550915
Guns as a pick up would be great if it was 3rd person beat em up but the fact it's 1st person, constantly switching to 3rd, is pretty stupid.

>the chinese troon is too incompetent to code an inventory system
lmao

>>717551998
What do you mean? There is no switching to third.

>>717551998
yeah guns as temporary pickups was a lot of fun in bloodrayne

>>717552151
>>717551998
My bad, just realised, you meant the old HSL version.

>>717495667 (OP)
there are so many series i would rather Larian work on before Vampire.

>>717495846
but Cyberpunk 2077 is a critically acclaimed mega hit comeback sensation that's sold like 15 million units?

>>717552151
Theres gameplay vids in this thread, bro. Many powers in the game switch you to 3rd person when you use them

>>717516508
hardsuit looks like janky kino, tcr looks soulless

>>717552768
stop bending backwards for a piece of shit that makes starfield look good

>>717495667 (OP)
>first person only
What's the point of a vtmb game if I can't look at my sexy malk?

>>717552982
The good news is that you don't have a sexy malk to look at anyway.
The bad news is that you don't have a sexy malk to look at anyway.

>>717552982
>Here's your sexy malk, bro

>>717495667 (OP)
larian is doing a scifi game next so no

>>717495667 (OP)
This is clearly not bloodlines 2
Why are they calling it bloodlines 2
Just call it vampire the masquerade: something else
'bloodlines' isn't even particularly marketable, everyone just calls it vampire or vtm anyway

>>717541016
Yes
despite the whole Anarch wank in 5th Edition, Salubri, the most persecuted clan ever, was made to be even more persecuted, as their blood is now Vampire cocaine, they can't use Disciplines without breaching the masquerade and have a compulsive need to help everyone around them.

>>717495846
The difference between this and CP2077 is that the latter was built around years of hype and had massive interest from normalfag while the former is a sequel to a cult classic which takes place in setting that barely anyone knows about.
>inb4 no barely anyone knew about Cyber Punk, true but it made up for that by being both by the CD Projekt Red, having Keanu Reeves, and a massive amount of other bullshit behind it. This has nothing, a few text games maybe and some live plays, nothing close to critical roll and anything else that normalfags eat up.

>>717495667 (OP)
Evil West wasn't half bad for a budget AA game. Though you're killing the vampires there.

>>717541016
As with most specialty discplines, exist in form of amalgams now.

>>717516508
This looks like shit, somehow worse than VtMB.

>>717553570
because they're using the clans(even if in a pretty limited way) and it's (loosely) based on the original.

the Hardsuit version would've been more of a real sequel, but from all that we saw it was genuinely cringier and shittier than the NotDishonored game that TCR is making.

>>717553926
almost nobody knew cyberpunk was a pre-existing thing, the hype was entirely bc it was cdpr and it was a giant change of direction from the fantasy stuff

i sincerely hope nobody actually has tried to cope saying it was because of the fucking board game

>>717554180
>almost nobody knew cyberpunk was a pre-existing thing, the hype was entirely bc it was cdpr
I literally said that, I put it in the inb4 and everything.

>>717499252
Because modern audiances have add.

>>717554240
i just dont even know why you included that whole part of your post bc i don't think a single soul on earth has ever even implied it

>>717550075
>>717543210
There is a really great mage actual play, no gay stuff, not a single pronoun in sight just a cool urban fantasy story, now that I think about it, it's weird to think about how much has changed in this culture.

https://forum.rpg.net/threads/actual-play-mage-the-awakening-the-broken-diamond-contains-reign-of-the-exarchs.279847/

>>717555024
Aside from the fact that you said the exact thing that I pointed out right after it?

>>717555320
Is there audio?

>>717555781
No, but there's a pdf version that is easier to read, it's worth it if you are interested in the setting.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/48vmtv7bkgbln9m71efhq/AJ8_u9mbanjzrIO9BUqJIyE?rlkey=f3cav8h5i4r70vqvf6cvo6h8m&e=2&dl=0

>>717546671
>100% cant kill the nigger whenever you want
its over(it was already over but holy fuck is it over now)

>>717557759
you couldn't kill major NPCs in the original either.

>>717546671
It's uhhhhh... from Suicide Squad.

are Fishmalks really that annoying?

>>717559368
They can be. When I played tabletop VtM my first character was a Malkavian. It was a Fishmalk, but I didn't knew that it was a thing back then. Everyone that I played with was saying that I'm great at playing a Malkavian. Which led me to three possibilities of what happened:
>they were lying
>they had a shit taste
>I was actually a good Fishmalk

>>717559368
>>717559858
what's a Fishmalk?

>>717495846
/Thread
Fpbp

>>717560290
the Vtmb Malkavian archetype, a quirk chungus with no personality beyond being wacky and weird, hated by tabletop fans and usually seen as a mockery of actually mentally ill people.

>>717516508
That parkour flip almost made me a full blown homosexual but thankfully I had 400mm of Jeanette's fat tits to jab into my penis and save my life.

>>717508836
>What exactly do you think is releasing in 2 months?
Nothing?

>>717561527
They aren't going to delay this any longer.
It would be an even worse financial disaster.

>>717516215
V Rising is fucking fun but it's closer to WoW than VTMB so it's not reaaaally a vampire game in that sense

>>717512865
unironic slow clap

I've never seen this before, probably because I didn't think of murdering some randoms right at game start

>>717563338
same, clearly i've been playing too nice, i've only seen mercurio try to betray me once.

>>717560290
plus what anon said, the name comes from this sourcebook illustration

>>717565417
old wod is so funny

>>717565417
>>717565465
doesn't one of the Hunter sourcebooks straight up have Dante from Devil May Cry in it?

>>717512938
Vampires are cool. Raveloft was cool. Dracula kicked ass. All of this lame shit is extremely recent. The youngest poster in this thread is older than the gay vampire shit.

>>717517720
No, it did. Did you not play the game? You could get through most of it without fighting at all.

>>717546671
I run DEI as a Camarilla plot to make government agencies more easily controlled. I had a player use a contact to get him in a room with a HR director for the detective that was on their case, and dominate them to fire him for racist tweets.

>>717555320
>>717556061
Neat, thanks.
>>717543429
What's the Mage IF?

>>717565962
the anne rice stuff was being published at the same time as ravenloft

>>717557759
https://youtu.be/s_MkfKk7gFU?t=33
Really? You think this sounds like a character that doesn't die in the same scene we met them, just like Willem?
>>717546671
>badass
>first act villain
lol, lmao

>>717548740
>"Groust"
>dead
You don't play chess.

sexy malk schizo gf when

>>717568890
When Paradox sells the rights to whoever makes Bloodlines 3.

I am going to play Bloodlines 2™

>>717568890
not soon enough

>>717517580
Even fucking Emil Pagliarulo, who's a genuine bonafide retard, eventually realized how awful a voiced protagonist is for an RPG. Why are dumb motherfuckers still doing it?

>>717569124
Did Emil really realize that, or was he simply ordered to stop by superiors (Todd, Microsoft, whatever)?
Genuine question. I don't follow his Twitter or whatever the fuck.
>>717569068
Probably same. We'll see how disastrous the marketing ends up being when Paradox's vacation ends.

>>717569103
good crazy eyes

>>717568890
In your dreams

>>717550551
You are a human, you can die instantly if you get stabbed or shot, but you have access to super flexible tools that can solve any problem if you have the imagination to use them.

>>717569441
>Did Emil really realize that, or was he simply ordered to stop by superiors (Todd, Microsoft, whatever)?
They got surprisingly far into development of Starfield before they stopped doing it (they had even casted people for the role), which says to me it wasn't a mandate from on high. If Todd or Microsoft wanted to axe it, they likely would have earlier on. In interviews he's even stated that they realized how many issues having a voiced protagonist presented, like everybody had been saying for over a decade. To me, that reads like his genuine response. He's sincere when he says that he doesn't listen to feedback (as stupid as that is), so he probably just totally ignored that players hated it in FO4 and just decided to stop doing it on Starfield solely because it was proving to be difficult and stupid.

>>717569068
same

>>717573338
Clearly legitimate bump, not at all evidence of actual shilling.

>>717573482
hellow fellow 4channeler, I will, too, be praying Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2™ by Paradox ®

>>717569124
Well Mass Effect was kino but it's a very rare exception

>>717573482
meds now nigger

At best I'm hoping for a Deus Ex HR type scenario. It's a little dumbed down and "modernised" compared to the original, but makes up for it by having better gameplay overall.

Problem is alot of what people love about VTMB isn't the gameplay, but the roleplaying elements and extensive dialogue options, which VTMB2 doesn't have. Really I think The Chinese Room has been given an impossible task salvaging this game.

If it's a solid 7/10 game I think I'll be happy.

Hello my lovely anonymous!
Just like you I had my doubts about Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2™ by Paradox ®. This action-packed sequel to the cult classic seemed to good to be true. But after reading all those interesting dev diaries and progress update, I must say I am intrigued! It seems I was wrong, the hardworking developers at The Chinese Room really pulled it off! I will be wishlisting for sure, in fact we should all wishlist it and make sure to preorder it when it releases this October!

>>717541838
>no they don't spoil anything if you don't already know the ending
Malks literally call Jeanette Janus for example. The only way this doesn't spoil anything if someone if an illiterate retard who doesn't know basic greek and roman mythology.

>>717576234
A normal person would just go
>oh I get it, because jeanette is two-faced and will probably betray me later. Damn I better side with Therese"
and then further rationalize it with how the thinblood at the beach told you not to trust anyone. So you would assume jeanette's bimbo clutz personality is a front and in reality she is manipulating you to turn you against Therese.

This is what the other guy meant when he said "they dont spoil you if you dont already know the ending". 70% of your "predictions" are nonsense schizo babble and the remaining 30% is so out of context that it can be interpreted many different ways

>>717574376
VTMB1's extensive dialogue options were a joke.

>>717570612
Starfield doesn't have a voiced protag and that game is awful.

>>717516504
I played Malk first and it was great. I dunno why some people can't just let others make their own choices and think how (You) feel is how everyone will feel.

The dialogue foreshadowing is not as major as people make it seem.

>>717561278
>and usually seen as a mockery of actually mentally ill people.
It shouldn't be the default for every Malkavian but I've known severely traumatized people who act that way when they're trying to fight off a bad mental breakdown.

>>717576234
Even those retards don't need to worry, because Jeanette explains it to you when you blurt it out (this RPG has lots of dialogue options, though!)

>>717495667 (OP)
Basically zero chance.

>>717495891
I hate Twilight for ruining the word twilight

>>717495891
twilight is mostly just fun to laugh at

>>717577686
>I played Malk first and it was great. I dunno why some people can't just let others make their own choices and think how (You) feel is how everyone will feel.
What I stated was an opinion. Not a mathematical fact.
I think it sours the experience in a noticable way, I (personally) would not have enjoyed VTMB if I played Malk on first playthrough but that's just me. I'm sure there are other people like me out there who would drop the game because of Malk dialogues.
I only hope to help people like myself to see the game before they delve into an option that may sour the experience for them just as it would for me.
Obviously this is not true for everyone and I'm not a father who'd force choices on them. Naturally people should make their own choices and connections but opinions can also shed light on possible patters (like disliking the game) that could be avoided with a simple -if heavy handed- suggestion.

I don't know why this needs to be said at all anon. Are you old enough to browse this site?

>>717495846
I'm sorry you couldn't run it, anon, but cp77 is a game of the decade.

>>717574376
>Problem is alot of what people love about VTMB isn't the gameplay, but the roleplaying elements and extensive dialogue options, which VTMB2 doesn't have.
I think this is an oversimplication. Everything the devs have said about the game has repeatedly driven home how critically important player choice and dialogue is in the branching, interconnected storyline. The original game has choices that barely matter. I don't get the argument that Bloodlines 1 somehow had "extensive dialogue options", either. Almost all dialogue in Bloodlines 1 is two options, and many is just a single line reply. I've never seen any dialogue in VTMB2 that is fewer than three options. They've shown a maximum of 4. It sounds to me from everything I've read and seen that VTMB2 is trying to have choice and consequence and dialogue far deeper than anything VTMB1 attempted.

>>717579662
>What I stated was an opinion. Not a mathematical fact.
"Do NOT do this" does not come across as an opinion and suggestion.

>Are you old enough to browse this site?
Are you old enough to browse my ass?

I think that a huge section of the audience, including my fellow posters on /v/, don't really understand Bloodlines 2 because the studio and publisher have relied almost entirely on developer diaries to explain the game instead of using videos. People find this approach to marketing very difficult and confusing to follow, and I don't blame them.

Either next week or the following week (Gamescom) we are going to see the release of a new story trailer, and some kind of indepth gameplay trailer that basically covers the same material journalists have been talking about. (Opening scene, escape, the haven, and then exploring the world and maybe explaining how the game is laid out.)

>>717580217
Leave

>>717580254
You disagree that the game's marketing has been very confusing and most of the posters don't know how it plays? Really?

>>717580254
>Leave

>>717546292
>ctrl-f: Fabien
>One fucking post

Can we talk about the fact that CR decided the winning move to win back fans in this cesspool of a game was to have a Forspoken companion going

>You'd better believe you are killing those dudes with your blood powers!
>You're awesome, queen!
>What in tarnation!

>>717580583
Unfortunately for us, we are quite aware of the marketing team's intentions and what they showed what with the blatant shilling going around but you already knew that.

>>717504074
>malk on first playthrough
ishygddt

>>717540743
>frog
>dogshit opinion
Like clockwork

>>717580583
>VTMB1 was never good to begin with, the successor is better.
>VTMB2 has had some bad PR in the past, no one knows how it plays now, it is fixed now, it's the best game you'll ever play
The two pronged marketing tricks you're using don't work. They only anger real fans. I am actually angered when you're trying to shit on VtMB1 because you think it will elevate VtMB2. I am angered when you think I can't see shit when it's before my eyes.

Angering your audience is not a good way to get them to buy your game

>>717580770
retard
>>717580868
parroting midwit
>>717580847
>>717581045
schizo autist

What's with this game and its sequel attracting the worst kind of posters? Was it Sseth's review from years ago?

>>717581224
lol

i thought chinese room didn't have enough money for a marketing campaign, where are you coming from

what are you paid

can I join

>>717579909
The amount of dialgoue options in VTMB varied alot from NPC to NPC and some of the conversations could be pretty in depth like when Jeanette and Therese are arguing, not to mention lots of varitaion based on your clan, skills and past choices.

The main quest itself was very railroaded, but you felt like you had alot of freedom to roleplay the character you wanted within the game's story constraints.


VMTB2 on the other hand seems to limit you to a few paraphrased options and you're forced to be this "Phyre" character rather than your own blank slate OC.

>>717581379
if you think paradox is shilling this game on a cambodian shrimp farming forum and NOWHERE ELSE NOT EVEN A SINGLE AD, and its not people who like the game wanting to talk about it, youre genuinely retarded

The Bloodlines 2 cover art has leaked. It's amazing what you can find obsessively spamming google to see what has been posted in the last 24h.

>>717581562
I thought the picture with the female/male phyre was the cover art? This looks miles better if its true

>>717579909
I'll agree with you that people tend to over-evaluate the choices and interactions in Bloodlines. Most of the choices cap at 4 option per menu, and when they don't it's either varations on the same interaction, using different skills, or additional info dumps. There's little interactions that arent binary with immediate consequence (very little long term play).
The game works because it's so good at catching your attention, making you disregard those flaws entirely while you play.

THAT said. Bloodlines 2 has shown nothing to prove that it's not going to be Fallout 4 with a vampire coat of paint. Dev diaries made claims. We don't know whether they can cash on those checks.
Any enthusiasm shown B2"s way is so far perfecly unwarranted.
We'll see. Hopefully they can deliver, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>717581447
No hacking, no skulking into vast open map, vastly less dialogue options, vastly less RP options, vastly less options in general, etc

With what we've seen you're basically playing on rail a Phyre character while your Fabien narrate how awesome you are with quips. People have made the connection with Dishonored already >>717512334

Not an RPG. Maybe a decent game about Vampire. I'd probably pirate it. VTMB fucking 2? Call it: Vampire: The Darkest Nights, or something else. You have a lot to shoulder when you call a game VTMB 2, and not making a fucking RPG to begin with is not how you do it.

>>717581503
Trying to act like this place isn't mainstream doesn't work anymore. 4chan has been exposed to the gazes of every major social media site for a long while now and YouTube videos about greentexts, happenings and the site getting hacked and shut down get millions upon millions of views. We already knows big-wig publishers advertise here with shit like TLoU2. Look at the posts in this thread and previous ones, there's obvious shilling going on here with predictable patterns. Hint: they will usually bring up Deus Ex, Dishonored and Skyrim in some cases.

>>717496026
Short lines that don't actually say what you say are the worst.

>>717581562
This is what the game box looks like.

>>717581656
>People have made the connection with Dishonored already

So is it going to be a proper immersive sim? All the footage I've seen so far makes it look like an arena brawler.

>>717581503
There was some very obvious marketing thread like two weeks ago. They all repeated the same mantra >>717581045

>VTMB1 was never good to begin with, the successor is better.
>VTMB2 has had some bad PR in the past, no one knows how it plays now, it is fixed now, it's the best game you'll ever play

Maybe they're organic. What do I know. But when every post, sometime to the word, all say the same retarded shit that spawned out of nothing in literally a day...

>>717581731
yeah they're not shilling this game on any other site, not even gaming forums or anything, no ads, barely anything from game journos (primary shilling place btw)no they're just sending people to talk about it on fucking 4chan lmao
i hope you realize how stupid you sound
>>717581869
or perhaps
hear me out
its suuuuper unlikely but hear me out
its a regular v poster, participating in the threads because he wants to talk about it

>>717581562
You just slapped the bloodlines 2 logo on an ai image, didn't you?

>>717581869
>There was some very obvious marketing
It's hard for me to take those accusations too seriously when *I* have been called a marketer in those threads for daring to talk about the game and correcting mistakes here and there.
I mean, I don't know whether there's some marketing going on - probably so, but then the level of paranoia around it is staggering.

>>717581954
Barely anything from game journos? Are you being willfully ignorant right now? The shills are positively chomping at the bit for the opportunity to direct you to the garbage their marketing puts out with shit like the GameInformer article that they treat like a sacred cow and made many threads in the lead-up to its release some Tuesday from weeks past. Yes, nigger, they are using 4chan to shill and I'd reckon you're either one of them or just a faggot trying to bait which is the more likely scenario with the way you type.

>>717581954
There's definitely some shills here. These threads have been popping up one after another with the same kind of responses that just don't feel organic. Best I'd give you is that anons are shilling the game just for the (you)s.

>>717581656
>no skulking into vast open map
What? It's literally open world. What are you TALKING about?
>vastly less dialogue options
What are you talking about? The original game had fewer dialogue options.
>People have made the connection with Dishonored already
It's like Dishonored but also the other Arkane game where you kick people. That's why it has the voice in your head, and the kick button, and a bunch of physics puzzles (you have telekinesis).

>>717579710
This shit is some outright cuckold pussy fantasy. Jesus christ

>>717582012
https://gamextreme.ph/products/pre-order-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-playstation-5-r3

>>717582096
if you point out that >>717553410 this character design was scrapped, they label you a shill, some very unwell people post ITTs
>>717582157
kill yourself you schizoid nigger
>>717582194
>shilling the game just for the (you)s.
or they want to talk about the game? ita unreal to me how someone can believe there is a shilling campaign going on instead of thinking one or two anons who want to talk about to game post in these threads, Bloodlines threads are already niche

>>717581562
Some people are going to have burger advertisment/real bought burger feeling going from that cover to in game character.

>>717582385
You made a fake site to post that fake cover, didn't you?

>>717581639
That was the cover art for that edition of Game Informer, not for the game itself.
>>717581562
Tig if brue. Looks neat.

>>717495891
Limbus Company is doing good

>>717582516
>Looks neat.
yeah agreed, we could have avoided a lot of sperging if the character on that cover was the MC

Let's not pretend Vampire Bloodline 1 was a great masterpiece. The combat was shit. The gameplay was shit.

Like most anons, you seem to not have watched the latest videos from CR. Sure, you could call it a "bad" game, maybe three years ago? But it changed for the better. Nowadays it's obvious it's going to be exactly what you want from a fucking Vampire game.

>>717582465
>if you point out that >>717553410 this character design was scrapped, they label you a shill, some very unwell people post ITTs
I wouldn't say it was exactly scrapped, but it was refined. It's obvious that they were going for a particular look with female Phyre that just didn't work. I assume that haircut is still an option. But they've settled on a different Phyre design as the "canon" one used in marketing, and that's a good move.

I'm just hoping they've added some cool outfits. I want something low cut, something with a skirt.

>>717495667 (OP)
No. The appeal is an Urban Gothic faction-based power struggle conspiracy with themes of the duality of humanity/monstrosity and free will vs control.
Cunts in the last two decades try to do other things and fail miserably, either by trying to make an Edwardian tragic hero tale ala Vampyr, weak L4D ripoffs, or VNs created by the mentally ill.

>>717582478
>Some people are going to have burger advertisment/real bought burger feeling going from that cover to in game character.
The most recent footage we have looks like this.

>>717582560
In spite of the vampires, not because of.

>>717499252
Because one executive has to say "there's too much on screen, the player might be off-put" and nobody can simply say that's retarded or that it'll annoy more people than it placates. So much shit like this makes sense when you contextualize them through the corporate meeting processes.

>>717495667 (OP)
The only way to get a vampire game masterpiece is if there is a white ethno state

>>717582597
Bloodlines 1 is a curious game because the gameplay has MAJOR issues. The AI is braindead. None of the combat feels good. But the gameplay isn't SO bad that it ruins the experience, and the same can't be said for Redemption.

>>717495891
It feels like that gay shot left a bigger impression on you that it did on all the femoids that have moved on years ago

>>717582228
>>no skulking into vast open map
>What? It's literally open world. What are you TALKING about?
Can you on a whim go into the local hospital to hack a random computer to get the dossier about a patient that has Syphilis in VTMB 2? All because you put points into the vampiric discipline that makes you invisible? Nah, of course.

>>vastly less dialogue options
>What are you talking about? The original game had fewer dialogue options.
Lol

>>People have made the connection with Dishonored already
>It's like Dishonored but also the other Arkane game where you kick people. That's why it has the voice in your head, and the kick button, and a bunch of physics puzzles (you have telekinesis).

Dishonered isn't a fucking RPG, you mong. I shouldn't need to tell you this. Dishonered is a decent adventure/action video game. The fact that you don't understand how it's _BAD_ optics to be compared to fucking Dishonered for VTMB 2 is exactly why you _SHOULDN'T_ have been developing VTMB 2 in your little studio, and why you absolutely have no idea how even to marketing this game.

You're trying. It falls flat. You're literally speaking to deaf hears when it comes to marketing this game.

>>717582804
I know, I still think that cover and the end in-game character look different enough that some will be caught off guard. Mainly a problem of the drawing being stylized - that facial expression doeesn't help.
Mostly I was just joking though.

>>717583165
>Can you on a whim go into the local hospital to hack a random computer to get the dossier about a patient that has Syphilis in VTMB 2?
The game deliberately omits anything a human would do. It's fixated on the vampire fantasy. So no hacking, no lockpicking. Nothing mundane.
>Dishonered isn't a fucking RPG
Indeed. But it's a useful reference for explaining the game. TCR years back said that they initially had the game play like Dishonored, but it didn't feel right because they wanted players to be aggressive predators, not be forced to skulk in the dark (unless they want to do that).

>>717550734
V isnt a pure blank slate character say like Skyrim, neither is Geralt, neither would someone like Henry in KCD also be. They are all characters with their own degrees of personalities and histories that they have had. There are debates in the Witcher games which choices feel most 'Geralt-like'

>>717583182
Phyre does look paler on the cover than in the footage, but that's probably just lighting.

>>717581562
I actually like it, cool cover. She looks less like a troon.

>>717583301
>The game deliberately omits anything a human would do. It's fixated on the vampire fantasy. So no hacking, no lockpicking. Nothing mundane.
How fucking convenient for you guys then. You dumb the game down so that it's closer to the walking sims your studio is known for but you hide behind the excuse of "B-But you're playing as an E-Elder!" Guess what, faggot, telling me that I'm gonna be playing as a crippled retard devoid of interaction with the world doesn't make me want to play your shit-ass game. Don't even bother with trying to tell me the interaction will be in the form of telekinesis; half-assed physics puzzles does not a good game make.

>Indeed. But it's a useful reference for explaining the game. TCR years back said that they initially had the game play like Dishonored, but it didn't feel right because they wanted players to be aggressive predators, not be forced to skulk in the dark (unless they want to do that).
Yet it still looks like a sterilized Dishonored without any of the style and will most likely be at best a polished turd that has no idea what direction it wants to take and at worst a dull slog that has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and is actively exhausting to play.

Assuming the game is good, and a hit, I think there's gonna be some interesting stories about how it changed in the last 18 months of development. Because things definitely changed. The question is if they changed enough.

>>717583827
The Hardsuit game had lockpicking and hacking and stuff, and it was dogshit. They're making basically the opposite of Hardsuit's game in every way.

>>717495846
despite the rocky launch, cp2077 is fun as fuck and development of the sequel is well under way

>>717583867
I'll take as a promising sign that the team was smart enough to understand that their original character design was a charisma void that no one wanted to play as, and humble enough to accept it and amend things.
But then, as I already stated, I look at the Fabien PI move, and worry about how little margins they have to land it.
All they've shown so far leaves in that weird state of apprehensive and hopeful.

>>717584018
It was dogshit because the entire development was a disaster and Mitsoda was a psychotic wreck of a man. If the Hardsuit version had shit implementation of Disciplines, would I be expected to applaud TCR when their version completely scraps them? The problem isn't with the mechanics, you daft cunt.

>>717584129
I don't know, I still stand by my original take on the game: very solid 7/10 that lives on its artistic direction, poor RPG.
In some respects, I think 2.0 is worse than the original from a game design standpoint. 2.0 is better balanced, with clearer limits; but 1.0 allowed you to break the game in very fun ways, and weaved narrative and mechanics better.

>>717584245
My view is that FPS/RPGs with lockpicking and hacking and stuff are very generic now. Even stuff like Teyon's Terminator game has the generic lockpicking and hacking and stats. I think there is some merit in going in this bold new direction that VTMB2 is going in. Whether it sticks the landing remains to be seen, but it's definitely straying WAY outside what people expect an FPS/RPG like to this be like. It's not like other games. And I find that interesting.

>>717584459
Complaining about lockpicking and hacking being ubiquitous in RPGs with a modern setting is like complaining about Sci-Fi games letting you pilot spaceships. What's the fucking point of being a vampire if you're made to feel like a luddite retard the whole way through who is an inferior sleuth when compared to just regular mortals. You fucking fags always stick the Assamites into your games, like this one, why the fuck shouldn't I be able to lockpick and hack my way into places as the fucking ASSASSIN clan? Doing mortal shit better than mortals ever could is fucking cool and a cornerstone of VTMB.

Maybe you should try having normal sex with women instead of getting fucked in the ass, that stuff is very generic now.

>>717584459
>this bold new direction that VTMB2 is going in
you are a shill

>>717584796
> You fucking fags always stick the Assamites into your games
Examples of that? Because, as an old school VtM player, even though I worry about the "batman clan" comments from the devs, I very much welcome the option of playing someone from that clan, for once.

>>717583827
100%

>>717584245
>Mitsoda was a psychotic wreck
Fuck off, bitter employee paid to shill here

>>717585050
Read your fucking books, nigger. You fucks have an obsession with the Assamites, the Brujah, the Anarchs and all the other bullshit that helps you virtue signal. I've literally never seen an honest-to-god Assamite fan in all my years and there's definitely nobody that would ever welcome adding the Assamites into the game when it already has a selection of clans the size of your dick. Please, illuminate how the Assamites are more worthy of a spot in the game than Malkavians, Toreadors, Nosferatu or the fan-favourite Tzimisce if you wanna get really cool.

Yeah, Toreadors are a DLC clan, big fucking whoop. You're trying to fleece the two people who are gonna buy this for as much money as you possibly can to recoup your massive fucking losses that are hemorrhaging your company. Imagine trying to pass Clan fucking Toreador as a DLC when it's the most iconic clan to VtM. Fuck you.

>>717585379
Yes, Mitsoda was a wreck who was reportedly raging around and throwing chairs across rooms at the end of his development most likely because his wife found out he was cheating on her as evidenced by her completely ghosting him and wiping away all mentions of him on her socials.

>>717584796
>Complaining about lockpicking and hacking being ubiquitous in RPGs with a modern setting is like complaining about Sci-Fi games letting you pilot spaceships.
I for one welcome sci-fi that steps outside those cliches.

>>717584919
VTMB2 is basically pissing all over the core ideas of v5 and being an Elder power fantasy where you try to steamroll everyone who disagrees you while Fabien whines about something, something gotta play this smart. It's one hell of a swing, and I'm surprised Paradox approved it because it's so utterly different to the game they greenlit in 2016.

>>717585492
I have the books, good for me. Now point me toward a *game* they've released in which the assamites were given some form of precedence as a playable option. Because I haven't seen it. And apart from the multiplayer game, I've played everything.
>Please, illuminate how the Assamites are more worthy of a spot in the game
I didn't say they were, I said I welcomed the change. I understand nuance isn't your forte though.

>>717584796
>why the fuck shouldn't I be able to lockpick and hack my way into places as the fucking ASSASSIN clan?
Because you are stronger enough to hit people until they answer you questions. Subtlety is for pussies and kine.

>>717585925
You talk like a shill, you act like a shill.
You are a shill.

>>717585925
>an Elder power fantasy where you try to steamroll everyone who disagrees you
Literally never fucking shown. All the dialogue we've seen has been Fallout 4-style dialogue that's just agreeing with different tones. It's made all the more shit by the magic bullshit the devs put on your PC in order to power you down and make you kowtow to everybody.

>>717585982
Check out your failed MMO, that's the one I can remember off the top of my head right now. You welcome the change because you're paid to say that, literally zero people have ever expressed such a sentiment in past threads aside from obvious shills.

>>717586086
I want a game where you play as someone in the Sabbat. Clan Quest Mod was great, especially when I macguyvered in Clan Lasombra from the Antitribu Mod to play as the shadow-fuckers in a Sabbat playthrough, but I want a full game set top-to-bottom in the Sabbat. Too bad we can never get that with V5 but oh well.

>>717586281
>All the dialogue we've seen has been Fallout 4-style dialogue that's just agreeing with different tones.
Not true at all.

>>717586281
>and make you kowtow to everybody.
Did you miss the part where you become sheriff almost immediately? (I mean, I dunno how many hours into the game, but everyone is falling over themselves to offer you their blood at that point.)

>>717581851
I wonder if they made her skin colour adjustable, Deus Ex 1/2-style.

>>717586281
>>Check out your failed MMO
I understand you're intellectually challenged, but you do realise the MMO was CCP, right?
I don't remember that game offering Assamites other over options. I don't remember it period. And you'll be suprised to discover: no one got to play it, so no one was given any option anyway.
You're in such a state of emotional dismay you can't accept someone having anything genuinely positive to say about something you dislike. Even when it's fairly restrained.
>game where you play as someone in the Sabbat.
As I've been sayig since we've stumbled on the DLC title, B2 playing a Lasombra elder, waking up to see the sect imploded while in torpor could be really interesting. As unlikely as I think it is to happen.

>>717586739
All the V5 bullshit has merged into a giant sundae of shit after years of seeing it. I don't care about playing a Lasombra elder when I'm still a handicapped fuck that can't hack into a computer and am forced to work with the Camarilla nonetheless. You still haven't answered why the Assamites are more worthy than other more iconic clans by the way and please don't tell me the same spiel a shill gave me before about Quietus being interesting to play when we already know stealth is absolutely butt-fucked from the get-go and we could've gotten Nossies instead for more varied dialogue and a more fun Discipline overall.

>>717579710
>femdomfags not making themselves look like trannies challenge: impossible

>>717578760
if it wasn't that it'd be book horse

>>717587013
>You still haven't answered why the Assamites are more worthy than other more iconic clans by the way
I haven't, because I didn't make that claim, you did. Again, I said I welcomed the option to play as one, for once. In answer to you claiming
>You fucking fags always stick the Assamites into your games
Which again, I haven't seen hapenning, and you haven't substantiated.
Honestly, if you're not trolling, I do believe you're in a state of mental disrepair. You're arguing with ghosts of your own mind. Get some rest.

>>717587338
Please, fag, you're obviously a marketer and don't try to deny it. Just tell us the rationale behind the decision to add Assamites, I'm genuinely curious. You know, aside from the fact that you want to make the clans that people actually play as into DLCs so you can siphon more money from the minuscule playerbase that will consider buying your game.

>>717546154
>they trully believe people with mental illness make up a considerable percentage of their target audience.
We are talking about World of Darkness, right?

>>717587658
>Just tell us the rationale behind the decision to add Assamites
I don't know, and I don't care. I just welcome the option. I'm not saying it's better for the game, I'm not claiming it's fair for other fans, and I don't give a shit. I'm just saying, to me, as an old player, that will be a welcome change (*IF* execution follows through, which remains to be seen, but in a vacuum? yeah, cool option, too rare in my book).
Were it to be, say, Tzimisce? I'd welcome it just the same. And be glad for those that do love the clan, instead of calling them shills for being somewhat satisfied, or complaining that it's not a main clan and as such not worthy of being released in the main game.

Honestly: do get rest. You're not well.

>>717588080
You're still trying deny what you are, this is going nowhere. I don't know why I even wasted my time trying to converse with a parrot that needs to show his posts to his supervisor before sending them.

>>717584459
> this bold new direction
CGPT write me ad copy

>>717499252
Consoles.

>>717587658
>Just tell us the rationale behind the decision to add Assamites, I'm genuinely curious.
Are you retarded? This has already been answered by the actual devs, instead of the "shills" you think live in your walls. It's a clan that wasn't in the first Bloodlines, so there's a novelty factor, and their "assassin" archetype means they can be the designated stealth clan. You're a dumb fucking nigger.
inb4 "I know I said I was curious, but now I'm going to criticize that rationale as if you were responsible for it and arguing with you about it can change it"
inb4 "You're a shill, too, and my proof is that you know how to read"
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER LEARN TO FUCKING READ

>>717550551
The appeal is saying
>Not funny, isn't real
and willing dragons into reality all over earth with prime 10.

>>717495667 (OP)
>Tell her everything
>Show her everything
>Tell her everything (angry)
Amazing

>>717516215
Just finished my brutal run of it, pretty fun. Fulfills some level of the vampire fantasy but while the castle building is cool the survival-crafting elements tend to go against the fantasy. I kinda agree with what the other anon said, in the sense that while plot relevant the vampire(both you and the non-playable type) are not the focus of the game/world/tone like you're just an RTS faction instead of being the major focus. It scratches the itch but it won't keep it away.

Also doesn't help that I can't stop seeing all the re-used sound effects and re-coloured skills from battlerite. Not that I blame them for using it but it does take me away a bit when I hear/see it and how come they keep adding more outright battlerite bosses

>>717495682
The animatipns are so fucking wild in that game. What the fuck happened?

You know what I don't even need a full vampire game anymore, slap up with some blood magic and I'll be happy we can work out the other parts later

>>717589542
Crysis released in 2007 and made Source facial animation look quaint, and everyone chased photorealism after that.

>>717495682
>>717589278
>ask for her name
>flirt and ask for her name
>don't ask for her name (get her name)
One dialogue choice isn't enough to judge.
Hopefully we get more soon to get an idea of what to really expect.

To be honest, id rather have a Mage videogame set in world of darkness

>>717581562
ngl, this would have been a bit better if the hungry-for-baconators chick wasn't on the cover. It would have given it a bit more of a noir aesthetic to it.

>>717495667 (OP)
>>717590140
A hunting game in the franchise could be fun too.

>>717581869
doubt they need to what with the cult they're running in their discord

>>717581869
>VTMB2 has had some bad PR in the past, no one knows how it plays now, it is fixed now, it's the best game you'll ever play
That's a great reason not to buy it. The game is a total unknown. There's no reliable and believable PR saying it's good now.

>>717590610
Yeah, but also no. I would be build around H5, which is total dogshit.

>>717500131
Waiting on twwh3 to download now so I can play another Vladdy Daddy campaign.

>>717503307
Play Malk. Embrace the schizo, stop taking the meds

>>717513590
Is everyone joking about this or did they actually make the badass protag of SoTN a twink bottom?

>>717593048
It's sadly not a joke, he really does get fucked in the ass.
>Produced by Adi Shankar
>mfw

>>717593048
It's real, they made absolutely sure to make him look like a colossal faggot during it too

>>717590140
>mage
Impossible to adapt. It’s a battle for reality itself with universe breaking magic types that are in fundamental conflict about how they even work, to the point of refusing to work in the wrong environment. What games could offer you is BING BING WAHOO CAST FIREBALL! It would look like fucking Skyrim magic, at best. I am vomit.

>>717495891
whats funny is the movies were actually better than the books, they were THAT dogshit

>>717495667 (OP)
> Dialogue options are just suggestions of what the character might say
It's unironically over

>>717590610
Hunters vs Vampires?

>>717591941
H5 shows that Paradox didn't understand what made people like either version of Hunter in the past

>>717495667 (OP)
I'm gunna hold your hand when I say this but having paragraph long options thrown at you every minute in a game there are hundreds of NPCs with diaglog is not fun and thats why the first one flopped

>>717596423
>and thats why the first one flopped
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>717577148
I know it doesn't have a voiced protagonist, that's what I was saying. Also, not having a particular awful feature doesn't make a game good. And a bad game having a feature doesn't mean that feature's bad. A voiceless protagonist is much better for an RPG.

>>717596775
well it didnt and nobody know what this game is so sorry if that hurts your feelings but the world isn't 4chan

>>717495682
fucking Grey DeLisle, she really cornered the market of characters kids crush on.

>>717582194
I think it's just the usual contrarian /v/ brain cancer

>>717596423
Interesting.
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?

>>717495914
Play the superior title.
>muh jank
Filtered.

>>717495667 (OP)
>Do you think there’s any hope
No. That era of gaming is over and never coming back. You're going to get generic ue5 slop with characters who are all ugly, 1 dimensional, gender ambiguous freaks who use corpospeak like a HR manager, and you WILL be happy.

>>717599962
I got my first job so I could build my first gaming PC to play this, and even with max nostalgia goggles applied I can tell you it didn't age near as well as Bloodlines. Decent story, no replay value.
>but storyteller mode
If you have a decent group in current year there are much better things to do with their time.

>There are retards itt who think my comfy vtmb threads are from a paid shill
how would I go about getting a job like that, seriously

>>717583301
>The game deliberately omits anything a human would do. It's fixated on the vampire fantasy. So no hacking, no lockpicking. Nothing mundane.
That's so fucking retarded, it's peak midwitness, I bet the designer that came up with that thought he was some kind of genius.

The whole theme of VTM is monsters trying to cling to their humanity, which is why humanity is a fucking stat and you get a literal GAME OVER if it goes to zero

YOU LITERALLY MISSED THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT

>>717602689
you don't even get that in troikas game

>>717602802
>subtext
(You)
fwooosh

>>717602802
FUCK YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vY7lQwjpc&t=66s

>>717601058
>comfy vtmb threads
>vtmb2
pick one

>>717604915
He has to say the his shill threads are actually VtMB threads.

>>717495667 (OP)
The development history of this game looks like a perfect case for detective Christof

>>717596423
A friendly reminder that over 80% of people in the US can't understand long texts and are stuck on the literacy level of Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone.

>>717608364
Sure, but computer role playing games are niche products made for the type that wants to enjoy long texts.
It's not as though they're being designed to appeal to the broadest consumer base possible. Right?