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this game gave me a weird fetish
Perfect Bride took me 2 days to beat. I wish my reflexes weren't garbage, lol.
I love how good the sweat looks like.
Why are you obsessively shilling this shit game
Develop some basic taste and standards.
The bosses of this game are easy. You can respecc and learn them.
What kills me more is the fucking map itself and all those traps and enemy placements. Holy fucking shit, Cloudspire is cancer.
>>717500592cant remember which one it was, but probably this
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/60?tab=description
>>717500471You mad that your mommy won't buy it for you so you run around calling it a shit game?
>>717500336I kept getting tilted on her second phase because of all the random flailing that was difficult to dodge.
But then I realized it was giga weak to fire and I was able to mash to victory.
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Great game!
>>717500592>>717500641It's this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/87?tab=description
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>final boss remembrance spell is actually good
feels weird after so much Fromcucking
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>>717500992Nice to see a fellow Wuchang who is dressed to murder everyone.
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tfw your wife tramples you
>>717499472 (OP)Finally beat that Monstrous Faggot Bai Kru. Shit took ages I can finally go to work jesus
>>717499472 (OP)My wife is much better
>>717500647Why would I want to waste money on a shit game?
>>717501545>didn't play the game>opinion based on steam reviews
>>717501684My opinion is based on the fact that it's derivative chinese soulslike crap that offers nothing new or interesting, you are forced to play as a woman and like with Stellar Blade, the "fanbase" reeks of estrogen.
>>717500336With clash, you can literally just stand in front of her and spam attack.
Didn't ask + you're brown
>>717501860your opinion doesn't have any weight, it is automatically discarded
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>>717500471Have you actually tried the game? Or are you just saying it's bad, with nothing to back it up with?
Well we had some good threads before the cumbrain arrived.
>>717501860>you are forced to play as a womanAhh. So this is the real issue. It's another twelve-year-old self inserter who can't separate himself from the character on the screen.
Pathetic.
Behold my shitty meme.
I finished it a couple days ago, didnt really feel like playing an NG+cycle for the quests i missed (did all optional bosses).
Will revisit it on NG+ once any content DLC drops
https://youtu.be/0AeO1mHHIPM?si=fWYwAu3Iout5x4zw&t=29
Tick tock anon, the clock is ticking and the window to beat the game before it gets nerfed shortens by the minute.
>>717501980he literally said he didn't lmao
this guy is just a clown
>>717502427fuuuuuck
why are people so pathetic?
>le heal is too sloow the get up is too sloowwwcan you just time it properly instead of spamming the key mindlessly you fucks?
>>717501980I don't need to when it's obvious that it has zero value to me. Do you need to play 2 dollar shovelware to know that it's shovelware trash?
>>717502125Yes, I am not a transgender and will only play as a man in most cases.
>>717502707you're just an incel
>>717501090>killed NG+ Honglan in 3 hits with this spellIt's fucking fun, I'm glad NG+ feels like a victory lap at the minute. When does NG+ start becoming bullshit with HP bloat and one shots?
>>717502792Yes? Where do you think you are?
Got a couple questions
- Is there any unique interaction if you skip Glutton Lu since her boss room gets reused in the late game?
- Does Hong still get out of jail if you don't give her the key?
>>717502427At a minimum 4 days to get the last two endings. I think I can do it bros. I know I can do it. Sure I work 10 hours a day but that's another 14 I have left to get this done.
>>717504421>- Is there any unique interaction if you skip Glutton Lu since her boss room gets reused in the late game?I dont think so, chapter 1 all becomes unavailable, are you hoping to get a dual boss with the demon in her room in act 4?
>- Does Hong still get out of jail if you don't give her the key?OOoo i never thought of that, im gonna bet that she simply does not appear in her boss area in chapter 4, similar to how the tomb can remain empty if you skip the white haired robed dude quest.
Hopefully some anon can give an answer
Ah I finally understand. I get it now. Left = Wu, Right = Chang. WuChang. Koreana are smart developers.
>>717505158I'll try that in my NG+
>>717505312Sex with right. Left can watch if she wants but I will not sex.
>>717505620Stop liking evil women
>>717504421>- Does Hong still get out of jail if you don't give her the key?Yes
>>717505939Absolutely not
>>717501980really ping pongs my ding dong
>>717505939Not happening. Bo Magus and Demon are the most attractive women in the game.
>>717505056It's only around 3 hours to get any ending that isn't the Dream ending in NG+.
>>717507581I started a new game to try learning magic with the 1 handed sword. Also I'm terrible at the game.
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Am I just stuck here? I defeated Bo Magus and now I think I need to go to the Revenant Temple? But there's no more open ways? I entered the dream but nothing happened. I am at the Palace entrance and there's this bird that leads to a dead end.
What the heck do I do?
>>717509454>now I think I need to go to the Revenant TempleYes. There's a thing in the Cave you started from.
>>717509552But the path to it locked? I tried to go back but didn't find a way
>>717509636Teleport to Annalum then go to the Temple through Shu Sanctum or go there from the Shu shrine if you already got that shrine unlocked
Charlie said this game was mid
>>717509818>Shu SanctumHoly shit I rechecked this place like 3 times and somehow all of them missed the most obvious door... Thank you anon
>>717510589Charlie is unironically too mentally challenged for this game.
Is almost every bosses optional or what? I'm still at the beginning of the game but the last 2 bosses game me nothing. I got to not-blightown sure but I noticed there's a completly different path on the surface.
If it's this open I'm impressed.. but these bosses are not worth the hassle almost. 3K souls each, big whoop.
Also props to the game for having meaningful armor stats, I feel like you can ignore that completly in most other souls games but not here.
>>717511181And by armor stats I mostly mean the resistances. the underground area is a lot easier stacking corruption armor. It helps that your mobility doesn't change.
Tell me about spears. How the fuck do they work?
Okay, what's with the Bo Sorceress?
I'm barely doing any damage to her. I usually prefer spears, but switched to swords because apparently she's weak to slash damage, but that barely increased my damage at all.
I really wish guides were more straight forward for bosses.
Seriosly, just list what status and damage types the bosses are weak against, and what resistances to have on your armor.
Like, is the Bo Sorceress doing slashing or magic damaged with her glowing sword thing?
>>717511535are you in act 2?
if you're in act 2 you fucked up.
>>717502427Just don't update?
I won't bother unless it fixes the stuttering, but considering they aren't even mentioning it that's hopeless.
I don't performance issues, I have stutters specifically, this is the first game in a while that's so bad about this. If the game wasn't this good I would never play it in those conditions.
>>717503154Bride's hp was pretty bloated on NG+. She died pretty quick on my original run when I used the useless 1 hand sword but she took quite a bit of punishment on NG+ using a 2 handed sword which is leagues stronger than the magic stick.
>>717511181Only one is at the beginning. Bosses only give you armor, spells and occasionaly weapons to us. Dont worry about the currency, you will be swimming in items that give souls or you just generate enough from killing mobs.
>>717499472 (OP)This game would've been so much better if you could play as a dude.
>>717511606How would you even know? The game doesn't exactly tell you what act your in.
Last boss I beat was General of the North - Ai Nengqi.
>>717511868>The game doesn't exactly tell you what act your in.it absolutely does, wtf?
and yes, you're in act 2. Sorceress is an act 3 boss you can skip to. You're early
And you bricked quests by accident.
>game focuses on exploration above all
>game also punishes you by giving you the bad end and removing most NPC questlines if you explore and take 1 (one) wrong turn.
I hate the chinese.
>>717511535>guidezoomer trash lmao
>>717511990It's like Dark Souls, you're not meant to do a perfect "100%" run on your virgin playthrough. You'll get it right next time.
>b-but I have le backlogStop rushing games and smell the roses
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ill just keed asking what the heck are those sword icons on each slot
>>717511990I mean, the game has 4 endings so it's intended to be played more than once.
>>717511181They also give you spells and items that get you exchange unlocks at the fat merchant shop
>>717512308I am not playing walmart tier chinkslop more than once lmao
You faggots baited me into playing this and you're lucky I bothered finishing it
>>717511868Head back to Cloudspire, there's another boss called "Ming General" who will unlock a new area for you. You skipped 3 bosses if I remember right.
>>717511535Bait out her aerial ranged attacks then backstab her after the divebomb. Might have to use weapon art to avoid the dive and have better position. Wait until her halfway typhoons are done before summoning grandad
>>717512672lmao, go back to your E33 slop then, dumbass baizuo
Jesus Christ, I think it took 4 hours to get to the point in Zhenwu Temple where you open the door behind the first shrine and the statue with the Demon Pendant on its hand. I must have died like 20 times by now.
>>717511181Optional bosses to the best of my knowledge
Chapter 1
Gluttonous Monstrosity - Lu Hongliu
Tang Palace Maid 2
Chapter 2
General of the North - Ai Nengqi
Chapter 3
Bo Sorcerer
Chapter 4
Monstrous Toddler - Bai Kru
Nightmare Demon
HongLan V2
Bo Magus
Chapter 5
Eternal Glory - Zhao Yun
Demon of Obsession
I went through a list of the 24 bosses and those are the ones you can skip/miss, the list also listed the South general boss (Lightning sword and shotgun boss in chapter 3) as optional, but i have no idea how you could skip him.
>>717511535>>717511868Bo Sorcerer is more of a mid/late chapter 3 boss.
Go back to the snow area and find the bridge that opened after you killed the General of the North (or when you set the three towers on fire).
That way will lead to the rest of act 2, so by the time you go back to the Bo Sorcerer you will be a few levels higher and have a higher level weapon
>>717511706Fang Ling dies pretty quick to Honglans's wing spell with the homing missiles. I used Shadowless Blade on phase 2
>>717512308>>717512137I'm not against missable things in a context or scale that makes sense, but 1 single turn locking you out of almost everything for absolutely no rhyme or reason is bullshit.
>>717509454>didn't defeat Honglan v2Don't go to Reverent Temple yet
>>717511964Where does it say what act your in?
>>717514149It doesn't. You basically separate them based on major locations
Act 1 - Worship's Rise
Act 2 - Cloudspire
Act 3 - Zhenwu/Avian Forest
Act 4 - Worship's Rise in Ruins
Act 5 - Bo Capital
>>717513310Modern panties, even those in silk, have an inner cotton lining for where the pussy is (the part in red is where it is sewn).
But in Wuchang, there is no indication of any lining, which means the pussy is in contact with delicate silk instead of neutral cotton. I assume this would give quite the sensations.
>>717514092he said he killed bo magus, so he has killed honglan v2
>>717514149i think they meant by the teleport menu that groups shrines by "zones" and order them accordingly, so act 1 is shu temple, act 2 is cloudspire, act 3 is mt zemwu and so on
>>717514087>but 1 single turn locking you out of almost everything for absolutely no rhyme or reason is bullshit.It is, or it would be if it actually happened. People overstate the "bricking" of quests that happen by traversing the cave to mt zemwu. I did i marked the first shrine of act 3 and went back and did act 2 and it had plethora of npcs, so did act 3
So if i missed any quest it wasnt that noticeable.
>>717511964>and yes, you're in act 2. Sorceress is an act 3 boss you can skip to. You're early>And you bricked quests by accident.This is what I've always hated about Souls-styled quests. They're so easy to mess up because the games lack any direction of where you're supposed to actually go and in what order.
The majority of Souls progression is choosing a random direction and following it to its end, but oh wait, one of those paths being taken will fail five quests and is the "wrong" way to go at this point.
How were you supposed to know that? That's the best part, you don't. Just flip a coin, buddy.
At best you can say, "Oh, well the enemies being too strong there is what tells you it's the wrong way!" Yeah, except the enemies aren't that much stronger? I didn't notice an uptick in statistical difficulty (hitting for too little damage and taking too much) until after I got to the boss. The enemies in act three didn't seem particularly hard.
Boss arenas with elevators between them and the statue can go FUCK THEMSELVES
What a colossal waste of time
>>717514545Its weird that there are some bosses with beyond comfortable shrines and then there are other bosses with a minute walk between attempts.
>>717514509The worst offender of this I have ever seen was Lords of the Fallen Winterberry quest.
Basically this guy tells you he's looking for a thief and to keep your eye out, then you go up an elevator right after.
Except, by going up the elevtor, you just messed up the quest and the guy goes and kills the thief.
The thief being a unique vendor who sells items you can get nowhere else in the game.
It was and probably still is the worst Souls-styled quest I have ever seen.
>>717514797To think, they could have just implemented a Statue of Marika system and solved the whole problem.
Souls designers are so fucking stupid sometimes. If you're going to copy Fromsoft, then just do it already, you morons.
>>717514375>the bricked playthrough that you experienced was actually an overstatementAt least put some effort to obfuscate your gaslighting attempts, this is getting ridiculous.
>>717514797Can you list the bosses with the minute walk? Longest walk I can remember was the guy after dropping the bridge but that was 30'' at worst.
>>717515048Please tell me which quests you brick by traversing the dreadful "3 carts cave" and reaching Mt Zemwu.
I didnt progress through mt zemwu, just activated the shrine and headed back and i was able to do...
Act 2
>Bamboo hat guy>Drunken Soldiers>Great Yonder Gang>Fan Yao & He Youzai towards the secret endings>And was able to talk with the white haired guy in the cave towards act 3Act 3
>Bamboo Hat guy>Taoist Crazy Lady>Child in a Jar>Fan Yao & He Youzai quest towards the secret endings>White haired dude quest>Finish Great Yonder Gang and Drunken Soldiers from act 2Maybe i missed a lot of quests from other npcs, so please can you tell me some?
What im saying is that we have been overstating the effect on quests of SPECIFICALLY walking through the cave in act 2 and marking the shrine in act 3. Maybe if you did more of act 3 it had a harsher punishment.
>>717514270>Modern panties, even those in silk, have an inner cotton lining for where the pussy isWhen I was 12/13, I used to cum in that part of my little sisters panties
>>717515240>Longest walk I can remember was the guy after dropping the bridge but that was 30'' at worst.I legit checked that one on a very early thread and it was 42 seconds, from the shrine in the middle of the camp that you open the gate nearby from behind. At least it had no enemies on the way.
Maybe 1 minute is exaggerating (assuming you sent the elevator back in the previous try) but there were a bunch of bosses that had either a ladder or an elevator that padded the run back severely.
Shout out to the optional Gluttonous monstrosity in act 1 since i found the boss before finding the shortcut so i had to walk there back through all the abandoned village with the roofs etc since the shortcut is on a side path that stems from the same place the boss path stems from.
Its just that there are so many bosses with a nearby shrine to the point that you dont even need to walk and then you get hit with another 30s walk to get to dragon emperor
>>717515528Every single one of those got bricked for me. To make things clearer I finished everything from the Avian Marsh up to Bai Mansion and then opened the bridge to the palace. I met the White Elder at the camp and when I refused to help him I thought he would just go die in a ditch alone so I ran after him in the forest trying to fight whatever boss he was talking about before he bit the dust. This bricked my whole playthrough for absolutely no reason. Taking a wrong turn obviously implies that you follow that path, or should I have gotten some spiritual warning against the path right in front of me? Something like killing a main boss and shit hitting the fan like the Bo uprising would be a valid excuse to fail questlines, taking a random path isn't.
>>717516095I was getting a bit defensive because these threads have been talking about JUST ENTERING the cave that leads to act 3 as brick city.
I was in no way shape or form defending bricking quests and the quest system that now propagates these games is probably one of the worst things that devs keep copying from the souls formula.
I also personally dont buy into the
>its a souls game you aint supposed to do all in the first playthrougheither.
Anyhow sorry your playthrough got fucked
>>717499472 (OP)Did someone try a sl1 challenge run?
Is it even possible?
I know you can use a bunch of skill points without leveling up but it probably won't mean much.
>>717517013>5 from Bai Kru>1 for each feather glowy enemy>1 for each bossI think you can get Long Sword counter which should let you cruise through but upgrades might be a serious issue since you need points to get to the flask upgrade and weapon upgrade nodes
>>717517293>you need points to get to the flask upgrade and weapon upgrade nodesThose from tutorial boss seem to be enough to get to first long sword upgrade node and first pair of capacity and potency flask nodes.
Thankfully the second pair of flask nodes is not far too.
>>717502635Fromsoft is still the king of soulslikes and they have gotten this shit right since DaS3. If your jank chinkslop is gonna play worse than a game from like 10 years ago, don't expect me to finish it.
>>717500471Go back to India jeet
>>717518056>it took 'the king' several games to fix their shitYou're a special kind of retard, retard.
Demanding instant heals or fast wake ups from complete knock downs is scrub territory no matter how much you screech or how many tantrums you throw about 'jank chinkslop'.
Impotent bitching on the internet will only earn you ridicule because you're openly announcing that you're shit at videogames.
It's that simple.
Also no one cares if some random shitter with overblown ego and unwarranted self importance syndrome finishes anything.
>>717518056DaS3 is so forgettable. I've played it multiple times yet when I think about it, I can hardly remember anything. It was a boring addition to the series after the travesty that was DaS2.
>>717518056>Fromsoft is still the king of soulslikeshahahahaha
>>717517651https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7ZSS2SC_BLkyNRrQBUvvdOMeRDnY6EFK
I found a youtuber that did it aready
This game is a little too easy.
Is Cloudspire entirely optional?
>>717521448No, you need to get a chisel from the bride or the Storyteller won't teleport you to ch4
>>717502427Were people really getting slapped a lot while trying to heal? I can kind of understand the get up animation though.
>>717501508Eve is nigger coded, Wuchang is a proper asian lady made for WMAF
>>717518776the devs still bent the knee and they're fixing the game for me LOL
I'm right, you're wrong, eat shit.
>>717521725can I get a source on your pic?
>>717500235didn't help anyone? get into the jar you useless whore
>>717521725It wouldnt have been my main complain but she does seem a bit slower on drinking that other souls?
>>717500992i dont get it, am i supposed to not go to the right and follow it to the end. am i being bamboozled?????
I'm in NG+ why the fuck don't I have the last chisel thing get the last temper acupoint skill?
>>717523446you are not supposed to drink during a boss combo, use one of the 9001 consumables that are instant use
>>717521186Your mom is a little too easy.
717525268
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>>717525906better than 95% of the posters in /v/
>>717512256I'm pretty sure it's just a bug. I've never seen them, but I have red crossed swords on the Zhanlu Sword indicating I don't have the minimum stats to use it. It's literally the only weapon that has required stats higher than your absolute minimum, so I'm guessing at some point the idea of requiring stats like Dark Souls was almost entirely scrapped, and those white swords are some vestigial remnant showing "is useable" that's no longer needed but some bug is making show up on everything.
>>717500471same reason we have daily threads of every other shit game or genre
>>717521186this boss is absolutely raping me because by the time I swing my axe she's moved already. I dont want to respec weapons
>>717500471but it's actually a fun good game? The rest of the catalog is incel porn and engagement baiting anyway you fucking spastic
should I play with chink vo?
>>717528159you will miss on the enemies calling you ''damn you sly vixen''
>>717527542I thought she was a pain on axe because her only real weakness is backstabs and axe isn't very good at hitting them fast enough. That said, she can't really do much if you just play it patient and dodge. The only hyper dangerous move is the shadow shotgun of you're up close, meaning you can't really afford to combo her to death even if she let you because you're constantly gambling on getting one-shot while locked in a swing. I basically just backed off and chipped her down by punishing her spell casting. Axe has a really good running R1 that closes a ton of distance, and you can get it in after almost anything she does. But getting greedy and staying for more than a hit or two will eventually cause you to just explode.
>>717528159I personally prefered it. Anything else breaks the immersion for me.
The game is really to chinese for any other voice over.
>>717528352>I want to go...home...
>those random ninja ladies that have 9999999 poise and frost and fuck you up with 3 hits
Harder than any boss fight desu
>>717528382I'll need to adjust my playstyle because until now I basically just spam light attack and rampage..
>>717528159playing any non English setting game without native language is just bad low iq behaviour. You have subtitles for a reason
Beat Bo Sorcerer without summoning the white man on a fresh playthrough. She wasn't as bad as I thought.
>>717528891might as well turn the sound off and just read the screen
If this game had a Fromsoft logo there would be 20 threads about this game per day
>>717529883low iq response. You ever watched a non English movie? Uncultured swine
>>717525906Stellar Blade is vastly better game than this chink trash
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>brown line going down the middle
imagine the smell
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Did you know there was a second fucking axe in act 1 and it has the most unga weapon art
does lovense toys sync with this game? asking fora riend
I love spears for bossing, hate for clearing.
>wo long
>wu chang
>wu kong
>>717505158Wanted to let her rot in there but she still barred my way in the last chapter. Maybe it's an oversight, otherwise whatever you do seems inconsequential.
>>717533978Hopefully axe users know that, because it's also the best axe.
>>717535635>wo theretake it easy bud
Fucking Perfect Bride, how am I supposed to approach this fight? With the Lady of the Night I just dodged and obliterated her from behind to get backstabs which was simple but this perfect bride bitch doesn't have the same rule
Anons I'm trying Horizon Zero Calories because I found it in my library for some reason. Are there any mods that replace the MC with an asian cutie?
>>717535635for those who dont understand chingchong
>wo long>crouching dragon>wu kong>enlightened emptiness (because monkey used to be a fucking stone)>wu chang>not often (impermanence)
>>717502635>>the get up is too sloowww>get knocked down by feathered priest's javelin>he drops 5 pools of corruption under me while I'm standing upSkill issue I guess
Why add so many element type needles when fire is the best choice for pretty much everything?
>>717535635>Wu-Tang: Rise of the Deceiver
>>717536579Don't get hit
Hit her
>>717537586There's HP leech which is also good. If you're using a non-fire weapon you have to use the type of the weapon.
The problem is that they went lore accurate making most enemies weak vs fire oh and burn is hands down the strongest status effect to inflict on bosses too.
Is there any way to save a build before respeccing part of the tree or am I supposed to remember every fucking node I took if I want to respec back?
idk what to play after this
>>717537586you get weapons that get better L2 if you are tempered with a particular element....
Whether is is "worth it" thats debatable but... might as well
The spear that tempers with poise break was dealing about 1k dmg with the L2 while tempered (3 skyborn might cost)
>>717531103yes of course. would I prefer to understand what the fuck they're saying and not focus on some text on the bottom of the screen? yes of course.
>>717538868It has absolutely nothing to do with this but i started Kunitsu Gami and im loving every moment.
Its a game that could exist in the PS2 era but made last year, soulful as fuck
>>717538005>>717538956Elemental weapons tempered to their element do roughly the same damage as a normal weapon with a fire tempering just without the burn effect. I tried every status effect on bosses and every single one besides burn is practically useless. A good chunk of temperings don't even offer a damage increase like fire does either.
>>717539109i already gave it a try
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>tfw no feathered transformation
>>717539409>Elemental weapons tempered to their element do roughly the same damage as a normal weapon with a fire temperingI totally believe that but i finished the game at level 114, by that point i was just jumping to other weapons trees hunting for the +5 nodes so might as well spend a couple nodes on getting the specific needle of the weapon, literally because....
why not? you know
>>717539534Loved Nine sols
Enjoyed Tunic but the premise/setting is better than the game
Loved Expedition33
How about Sword and Souls Neverseen!
>>717539534Played lies of twink? For my money the best Souls game not from From
>>717539951yea not the dlc tho.
>>717536579Use the spear skill that flips her over, then run behind her and backstab, easy as that.
>>717499472 (OP)This game is unironically better than most of Fromsoft’s line up.
>wahhhh I can’t run it Don’t care you’re brown.
>wahhh I keep dying Get good shitter
Exploring Bo Capital outskirts with the OST with bells is giving me Drakengard mindfuck vibes. The design is great.
>>717541060I wish Bo Magus would step on me like this
>>717502707>I am not a transgenderThe funny thing about this post, is that the people that turn into trannies from watching porn and playing female characters, are exactly the kind of person this is.
It's his lack of mental development that keeps him from having a full theory of mind. That's the thing that trannies and self inserters have in common.
>>717538005>burn is hands down the strongest status effect to inflict on bosses too.I'm using the fire longsword with the fire tempering and I NEVER see the burn proc happen on them. How the fuck are you getting it to proc is there an accessory to make it proc more?
>>717523917It looks like a side area, while the main building is up some stairs. So it when an npc tells you to go into that seemingly side area, most people will do just that. But the "side area" is actually where the boss isAnd encountering the boss locks you out of meeting with the boss in npc form, and complete some quests.
>>717539409Fire is almost always the best but I found that some bosses, typically humanoid ones, are super vulnerable to poise break tempering + the poise break longsword (lashing whip). I absolutely melted the demon boss in Act 4 with that build. Other bosses it’s kind of useless and you’ll generally want to go with fire.
>>717501980So i killed her last night before i found her and talked to her? Did i fuck up all the quests?
I can't believe it took me until the boss just before the bo capital to realize you can cheese large bosses with infernal firebrand + fire buff temperance
Hold the fuck up, isn't this the ending? But I've barely explored this whole area?
Is it good /v/ ?
Elden ring got me tired of soul slop
>>717536579>Step onePick Dual blades
>Step 2Pick Blademaster discipline
>Step 3Stand in front of her and press attack
>>717541598stand a few feet away from a boss, use fire tempering, and do infernal firebrand with a stack of skyborn might
the little fireballs that pop out do fuckloads of damage and if you can get 3 or more of them to hit you will do thousands of damage and almost instantly proc fire
the damage goes up even more if you use divine might just before
>>717542705>the little fireballs that pop outI always used infernal firebrand right in their face because it was a melee attack, I'm supposed to use it at mid range?
>>717499472 (OP)Am I the only one who spent the whole game expecting to get a fourth talisman slot?
It's so fucking weird to finish the game but still have that hole in the ui.
>>717542781yeah, if you do it right in their face, then there's no room for the fireballs in front of you to pop out, so they all spit out behind you and to the side
try it from a few feet away, it's insane
>>717499472 (OP)Just killed the Centipede in the bandit cave. Can someone explain the story so far? I have no idea what's going on.
>>717542889Damn what a hag bitch
>>717542876will try next time. Is there any benedictions/accessories/whatever that boost burn proc build up?
>this flute-playing bitch in Cloudspire with her musket wielding guard
Everyone's feet look hideous and unfinished from beneath. What a shame.
Motherfucker who thought it was a good idea to put these hard ass bosses just after a god damn elevator? Please. Stop wasting my time with a fucking elevator.
https://ayakamods.cc/mods/adds-pre-order-items-to-the-deluxe-pack.874/
Preorder items mod for people on PC
>>717499472 (OP)Did I fuck up? I've played the game with no acupoint unlocks outside of the first 2. I'm at fierce tiger and just decided to start looking at longsword builds for acupoints. unlocked my slots minus the 5th one, and i realized i have no needles to put in there. Where in the tree do I get more needles? and for the one I want it says you get it from Fang lin, but I already killed that bitch and I don't have it.
>>717542984kek. I would run in and beat the shit out of her a bit before peacing out and letting her chase me out the room, then went back in for the guard
>>717542975there probably are but I don't think I found any. besides, it becomes trivial to build up fire procs once you get the firebrand positioning consistent
it works best on larger bosses since they have a higher likelihood of getting hit by more fireballs
Is Fierce Tiger suppused to be a level check? i'm 66 and im getting instantly deleted
>>717542941You are Wuchang. A young pirate lass that is stuck in a loop of death and rebirth, whose only way out of it, is to wear the panties of her fallen enemies.
goty 2025? my personal favorite is expedition 33 but this shit slaps
>>717543601Not a level check. A lighting resist check.
>>717543106the secondary acupoint slots only lets you equip needles that give you plus in basic stats when temper is active. You get them as drops from killing madness demon wuchangs that spawn at specific locations
>>717543704I don’t think it will get much recognition because of the review bombing from thirdies and shitters but it’s an excellent souls game desu. Best in a long time.
>>717543704It's my goty so far. AI think it's a genuinely good game. Though, I haven't actually played any other games that released this year. Unless you count Rise of Ronin pc release. But I didn't like that one. But it's obviously not going to win any awards. Won't even be nominated for anything.
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i literally just did
why the door won't open?
>>717544435Because you're on the wrong side of it.
Aaaand I think that's it for the annoying bosses. I don't expect anything will surpass Zhao Yun just spinning around like a goddamn top and shitting clones all around him.
>>717544520ok... the game could've told me at least...
>>717544135>>717543704While DK is currently my goty so far, I liked Wuchang more, if that makes sense. It's held back by the lack of polish and balance, but it felt like an adventure I won't ever forget.
>>717544532Why is your game so hard nigga like shit it's pitch black
>>717544853>DK is currently my gotyhow the fuck
>>717544874Probably didn't convert correctly because of HDR.
Just got the Bo successor ending. The sorceress was more managable than I thought but fuck that bitch Honglan in both her versions. Wish she would just rot in that prison.
Going to do the true end and the alternative one next, heard they're basically the same up until the end so I'll just use a savegame editor for that I guess.
Overall enjoying this game much more than I thought I would. I'm not even a big fan of soulslikes but this one has a unexpected pull on me.
>>717499472 (OP)>muh long sword ydnbtgMeanwhile Axe with leech can just do what it wants whenever it wants and no boss can handle it.
>>717544635>>717544520>>717544435It's almost like a self-parody how it says that instead of just "this opens from the other side"
>>717545107Someone will always say weapon x is easy mode except maybe spear.
>demon pendant
>Increases your weapon's Fire damage at the cost of reducing its Physical damage.
>increases your damage
>at the cost of reducing your damage
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>>717541801is poise break the same as the backstab crit meter? I did that needle on the whip sword and didn't notice much difference so went back to leech.
>>717545779increased elemental damage at the cost of physical damage
this is pretty standard stuff
>>717545779I want to reply to you but I don't want to be unnecessarily mean, so before let me ask you, are you mentally handicapped in some way?
>finally manage to beat Perfect Bride
>lolno, phase 2 motherfucker
>actually beat phase 2 with no hp remaining first try
Finally a boss where magic shittery doesn't feel horrible, god damn, even if I did phase 1 with spear and phase 2 with magic.
>>717546243Fang Ling is just showing you that some bosses will have second phase from now on, her own is a victory lap.
Now, this motherfucker right here is the first legit "fuck you".
>>717546352He's still not fun in ng+ and I'm sure he won't be in ng++. Just a shit boss really.
>>717546352I swear all his lightning strike attacks just flip a coin on whether they have a hitbox or not.
Anytime I was caught in one, I spammed dodge and sometimes I took no damage and sometimes I got hit.
>>717546243>tragic tale of an abused woman>younger sister worried sick>horrifying tone as the humanity left in her pleads for help>phase 2>sick guitar solo kicks inGOTY
>>717499472 (OP)is the deluxe edition worth it?
Wish Honglan was my lesbian wife
>>717547032if you want the outfits, is all.
Wuchang and Eve walk into a bar
>>717547045needs bwc correction
>>717547163they both leave with a White man
This game is seriously better than expected, god damn. I thought it was just a shitty souls clone with skimpy outfits but it's so much more.
>>717547163Wuchang looks cooler.
How is Eve's game? Seems very cinematic from what I've seen
i was kinda meh about it, but now after finishing and uninstalling it i kinda start to already miss it.
I really like the environments of Bo Capital with foggy huge structures, gives a feeling of vastness + a feeling of Beksinki (or whatever) grotesquerie.
>>717499472 (OP)I lost all interest after the poison spider boss
>>717547660The what? I thought I killed all bosses
>>717547660>poison spider boss????
>>717542941No. You were born with a brain and eyes. Use them.
>>717547459underwhelming
wuchang puts sex appeal into an already good game
stellar blade uses sex appeal to hide the fact that it's an aggressively mediocre game at best
>>717547725>>717547737He's probably thinking the pot spiders are bosses because he's such a shitter. Can't take jeet shitposts seriously
>fight Bride
>lose
>wait for elevator
>drop down
>skip cutscene
>die
>fight Bride
>lose
>wait for elevator
>drop down
>skip cutscene
>die
>wait for elevator again
I know, skill issue but it adds up.
>>717548143Have you tried sending the elevator back up before you fight her?
>>717548143I also had this with a couple of bosses, probably will again since I'm not done yet.
It really makes you appreciate stakes of Marika. If there's no enemies between the spawn point and the boss, just put it at the boss.
>>717547989I thought so. I hope for a DLC with the two guys who leave at the port, they were friendly and had cool designs
>>717514270>>717511181I FUCKING LOVE PANTIES
I don't wanna play ng+
What should I play next bros? Is lords of the fallen any good?
>>717549645Lies of p has bad level design but it's a very nice game
>>717549645LotF and The LotF suck.
>>717549645nu-lords is pretty good
it's a very traditional souls-like but with a universal parry and posture mechanic
the lamp mechanic is also cool since now every area has hidden items or even main progression paths in the umbral, even if it means you just play most of the game in the umbral despite the built-in risk-reward system related to it
it also makes some really interesting decisions like giving throwables and ranged weapons the equivalent of a shared mana bar so you don't have to always allocate souls to buying more of those and makes ranged builds that much more viable
>>717549849>Lies of pthats a male player character
>>717550292Just try it out. not as good as Wuchang, but the weapons system is fun.
>>717549995>it also makes some really interesting decisions like giving throwables and ranged weapons the equivalent of a shared mana bar so you don't have to always allocate souls to buying more of thoseThis is actually something I always wanted to see in a soulslike.
Since I've already played P I'll go with it.
>>717549995I remember the trailer being cringe DEI shit so I ignored it at the time.
Should I play Sword and Fairy?
>>717551170They really need a different fucking translation instead of "fairy"
It just does not sound "cool" in English
Where does Wuchang go from here? Assuming the true/canon ending cures her feathering, can't imagine the existing game mechanics working without it.
>>717551532I didn't pay much attention to the lore tb h, but you could easily pass her abilities as run of the mill taoist magic.
I don't remember hearing anything about the feathering giving her any power of outside of madness.
At most you can say they'll need to change ui and put some other object as mana marker, not a big deal.
>>717548143my man send the elevator back up when you're stepping off it
>>717551532Is the plot any good? My takeaway is that for better and worse it's a chinese knockoff of Fromslop so that'll be the dealbreaker for me.
>>717552149Yeah it's actually quite good.
How does this rank among the souls likes (lies of P, etc.)
is it possible to skip cloudspire/shaft completely?
>>717552228Good to hear. Anything stand out? From what a friend told me the basic concept of the plot kind of reminds me of Sekiro (girl's fucked up, needs to look for a cure, everyone's fucked up)
>>717552297No, you need all the chisels.
>>717546352the last few bosses save for commander and red lady dies quickly to fire
>>717539109I want to play this, but I want a physical copy and refuse to support digitalniggery.
Why didnt feathering stat have some effect like insight within the game?
>>717552396That's kind of like the teaser, but the plot is actually you trying to resurrect your sister, but the game showing you how violating the natural order and causality is a terrible, terrible idea.
In the end you are trapped in an endless samsara repeating a cycle of trying to resurrect your sister, and the only way to escape is to admit that you must move on
I like how the main theme, how violating causality is always a terrible idea is shown constantly through main bosses and backstory.
Then how the world goes from a grounded Chinese fantasy setting to a fucked up grimdark as causality gets more and more violated was very cool to me.
Ultimately it's fromslop so the plot is not portrayed very explicitly but for what it's I found it quite cool. It has a very Chinesey way of going about it.
>>717546352I just raped him with the steam spear ability. It's crazy against large enemies with big hitboxes.
>>717548376This, at least copy the good shit that From has already done.
>>717544435>why the door won't open?SAAAAAARRR
>>717543108I figured out an easy strategy. Just taunt the musket guy to shoot and dodge through the shots to farm Skyborn Might, then kill him with magic. The flute player can actually be attacked from behind if you hug the wall after dealing with him.
>>717551170Is this official promotional material or something?
>>717553652that's a bit too much effort for 2 generic mooks, I just bop her and divide and conquer
People are sleeping on spears. I just beat the first demon of obsession boss in like 3 tries with the swap mechanic. Also the spear flip skill is strong as hell since you can just backstab humanoids after using it. The only bosses I have come across far that it doesn't work on is the Ming general, and Bo Sorcerer. It works on both Honglans.
>>717551274Tale of Sword and Sprite?
>>717553767Honestly being an asshole is half the fun. I imagine the musket guy internally seething while he slowly reloads just for me to dodge straight through the bullet.
>>717553946You mean Spirit? Yeah that works, better than Fairy at lesat
>>717553946"1/4 pound patty is bigger than 1/3 pound patty" retards would think it's about the soda.
>>717551170That one is pretty alright. Pretty dogshit machine translation though. Unlike Wuchang this one is really full on cultivation autism.
>>717554560wait what even is sword and fairy
is it like an actual rpg
>>717552149I don't entirely get it cause it is a dark fantasy retelling of Chinese history/folklore, but a lot of the ideas seem new to us westerners, not quite the monster tropes as you'd see in a Japanese game, you know. It's just confusing when you're not used to differentiating chinese names.
The main character is as stoic as a brick, but she does in fact have a motive and the game's themes tie into her character arc which reaches a satisfying conclusion in the true ending. Simple yet effective.
>>717554773Yeah, action rpg in weird cultivation fantasy china. Big magic, riding swords, elemental spirits, the works.
>>717554028What are you babbling about, schizo?
>>717555017He's telling you he's a seething chinaman
>>717551902Yeah, it definitely shows you didn't pay attention.
>>717552840Duly noted. Hope it comes together better than Black Myth Wukong and Dead Cells in the end.
>>717554903I'm chinese so this and BMW are kinda old hat to me, it's mostly confusing to me because I'm seeing cliches and "old man rambling about pig demons vs sky gods" level storytelling that I recognise from childhood stories, being used in a Soulslike game
>satisfying conclusionThat much is promising at least. Just got to the merchant who sends you to fight a dream monster.
>>717553521>Copy the shit fromsoft added to casualize their later games for normiesWhy not let your lost souls respawn outside the boss room like lies of P too?
Why not allow you to teleport to a save point from anywhere like Elden ring?
Why bother having any kind of challenge or penalty for failure
>>717543704Goty will probably be nightreign
>>717555519Tedium doesn't make anything challenging. A Stake would not make the boss itself easier.
>>717555783Don't bother arguing with neets. Wasting time is about as much hardship as they face, so they get quite defensive.
Don't like that every enemy in this game is Havel from DS1. All enemies have infinite poise and usually too much health. Which is fine for tough enemies, but even mooks?
Didn't die to any bosses except for twice at the centipede.
Thought the game was pretty easy and at least the bosses were fun.
That was until I ran into the commander bitch. Almost just stopped playing until I looked up a guide and reset my perks to parry with long sword. Had to just bait her ai into spamming a move repeatedly. Really invigorating combat.
I like the game alright, but the combat is ass. Feels like every enemy is a DPS check.
Shit game compared to lies of P
>>717555017You have to take the dumbest people into account when marketing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-pound_burger
>>717553929>Also the spear flip skill is strong as hellIt's so OP I actually stopped using it. Otherwise all human bosses just die lying on the ground lol.
I like the spear though, dunno why u niggas were telling me it's weak.
>>717555783The level in a SOULS-like is supposed to be as difficult as the boss to keep things interesting. Otherwise it's just a boring boss gauntlet game.
>>717556224It's better. Lies of P's meh level design and bad final level make it inferior
>>717545315Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the spear the most. It generates skyborn might so that you can easily catch even most bosses in a staggering combo via quickswap.
I'm been using red tassel spear with solar leap and the steampunk spear with the bulwark fleeting ability and they work very well together.
Use bulwark to get 4 might, switch to other spear and use solar leap which goes to lv4 light attack, getting back the might cost, quickswap and use the fire ability, spinning small and medium bosses around so they're facing away from you, than quick swap to do the running multihit thrust into their back and go into combo, doing massive stagger damage and building up boldheart and do lv4 light to get 1 might and use quick swap again as the boss turns to do more stagger and probably break them.
This has allowed me to melt a lot of bosses.
>>717556207They're nerfing some enemies poise in 1.5, but who knows how far they will take it.It's a good thing this game isn't that popular otherwise we would have a flood of "didn't beat the game" retards.
>>717556207What are you talking about? Every non-elite enemy dies in 2 hits. Stronger enemies die in like 5. Why do you need a guide to tell you to try something different if what you are doing isn't working? Jesus christ, dude
>>717543704It's a tossup between Nightreign and Clair Obscur for me, but so far I can see this as a promising contender. This has been a weird year for gaming desu. All these games seem to be either unpolished around the edges, dependent on reused assets and/or derivative of previous ideas. But they also do just enough in terms of innovation or put just enough effort into sound design/plot/graphics/generally prettying up the game that I also acknowledge they're a cut above the competition. Even more objectively polished games just don't convey the same experience.
They're all great games, but I think ultimately I'll remember their flaws more than their merits. Not necessarily in a purely negative way. It's kind of interesting to step back and examine what a game can do right to make me forget it's structural limitations.
>>717543704this is my #2 but yea exp 33 still goty
What else is coming out this year? Biggest disappointment is monster hunter wilds
>>717556401But when you put an elevator between the rest point and the boss, with no enemies between them, it's just a waste of time. No challenge whatsoever.
>>717556020Seriously, it's like they don't realize some of us have lives outside of games and our time is precious.
I work forty hours a week, I have commitments outside of work that eat up more, and I do my own cooking, cleaning, and home maintenance.
I have very little time and barely more energy to play video games. I get about one hour of gameplay in a day, so every minute of that time is precious to me.
If you add up all the wasted time caused by runbacks over the course of a first playthrough, it probably adds up to at least one of these gaming session. That's one session that I made no progress because someone thought it was a good idea not to put the checkpoints right outside of the bosses.
>>717557417>Stellar Blade>KhazanAre those really that good? Kind of ended up avoiding them both for opposite reasons. Stellar Blade was so hyped up because TIDDIES I got concerned it would never live up to the hype, especially when the way a friend explained it to me the plot reminded me of someone copying Nier Automata. As for Khazan, I just don't know shit about it
>>717557136Honestly just the smaller enemies would be fine.
>>717557191It takes 3 power attacks from duel swords to kill a dog.
Because I thought I was missing some gimmick to the endless comboing and stunlocking boss?
Apparently I was, because duel swords doesn't have a parry and you need to survive that boss.
>>717543704The clear winner is going to be E33 because normalfags. Its a good game though so that's fine. Wuchang is fucking fantastic but I doubt it'll even get a mention because people can't separate their hate for china and a video game. I get it, I dont like china either and I'll never go there but this game was amazing. The level design is great and I really like the skyborn might mechanic. Its obviously not as deep as Nioh but I don't think it needs to be
>>717557546>copying Nier Automatayea but its still pretty good and runs great
i dropped khazan nothing really hooking me
>>717557548If it takes you 3 heavy attacks to kill a dog, you're doing something wrong. Dual swords does, in fact, have a parry. You dont need to parry honglan to beat her. Dual swords also has [Clash] that you can use against her but you'd have to watch out for punches, kicks, and point blank magic. Why is it so fucking difficult for some of you guys to use your brain or eyes? Its fucking astounding you fumbled your way through life living like this
>>717557548>>It takes 3 power attacks from duel swords to kill a dog.wat
are you on a challenge without any upgrades and perks or something?
>>717557548>It takes 3 power attacks from duel swords to kill a dogUpgrade your weapon?
>>717557245Cause AAA has collapsed, every notable release this year has been AA. Nightreign, E33, Mario Kart, DK, Khazan... meanwhile Ubi releases AC Shadows which flopped.
>>717557546khazan starts out pretty slow but as you start getting skill points and developing your moveset the combat really starts to pick up and becomes quite fun
it's not without flaws though as there's only 3 weapon types and each one not-so-subtly has one intended primary defensive mechanic despite the game having a universal parry
not a bad game by any means, it's like a heavily watered-down Nioh. it's surprisingly long too and beating the game unlocks a boss rush mode and a pseudo roguelite mode
>>717557810I obviously know what clash is dipshit. I only died 3 times by that point, that includes killing the sister at the beginning. But Clash does not negate enough damage against her.
>>717557828It's +3 at 17 Agi. But I did go really far into the left for HP and Stamina.
Regardless, I swapped temporarily to longsword and cheesed her because her design is dogshit.
>>717557546Plot is definitely the weakest.
Gameplay is like a souls-lite. Has a lot of souls influence, like camps restoring flasks, stamina meter, perfect dodge and parry, but definitely more Platinum style combat.
Music is 11/10
>>717557546Stellar Blade is good. No idea about Khazan.
>>717558263>stamina meteri dont remember a single good khazan ost but i only got to Trokka
>>717558263>Platinum style combatI remain bitter and confused to this day that there aren't dozens of Metal Gear Revengeance clones. The game engine is SO fucking good you'd think there would be shittons of studios lining up to make other games where you slice up things bigger than you easily but another man with a sword is the deadliest test of your reflexes.
Nope, instead we're getting A FUCKING DARKSIDERS SEQUEL, HOW THE FUCK IS THAT FRANCHISE STILL ALIVE
Damn the last few days ive been rushing home after work to play this but now that im done it feels so empty
>>717500471Anon I’m not gonna play whatever CAG you shill for so don’t even try it.
A little confused. I just beat my first playthrough blind, and it says I got a true ending where you sail off with Fang Yao and are cured of the feathering. But I looked it up, and guides said having the complete chisel and killing the demon of obsession is required for this ending, but I missed both of those. Furthermore, it says you're supposed to Use the completed ring at the end, which I acquired but didn't even know it was usable. Are the guides just wrong?
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Just started playing and just defeated DONCHONGWONHONGLUSHUUU whatever that weird incel dude's name was that was in love with the actress or whatever. It took me about 4-5 tries.
So far I'm disappointed in the weapons. Spear seems to be the most fun, and axe is okay. I'm more of a DEX player, and Spear seems to be the fastest weapon in the game. I must have missed the tutorial dual blades because I never found them until I bought some from a shop, so haven't had a chance to try them out, but they feel slow. Longsword is boring and so is one handed sword, which is disappointing. I just noticed I seem to do the best with the spear. I only have one spell though and I'm really early in the game, not sure how fun magic is, so I can't judge it fully yet. It looks like one handed sword is supposed to be used with like a spellcaster/spellsword type build that focuses on magic primarily.
I also don't like that the game relies so heavily on perfect dodging. The only weapon in the game that can parry is dual blades, and the only one that can block is fucking axes. That's annoying. The "parry" isn't even a parry; it's more of a deflection. Same thing, I guess? But it doesn't feel like a parry.
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>>717561324Longsword has a traditional block/parry but you need to unlock it in the skill tree, though it's not too far off. Keep in mind, fist/kick/claw attacks can't be blocked or parried by at all and still require dodging.
You get plenty of spells throughout. Projectiles, melee, buffs... the one I used the majority of the time is obtained early on and has a ton of iframes which I would use as a panic button.
>>717561609I do like the KICKU attack that Longsword starts off with because it does a guard break, I guess? Or whatever the game calls it? Stance break? It knocks the enemy down.
>avian dwelling
>avian marsh
which direction do I go first? I'm in the forest and want to get as much content without fucking up the progression flow
>>717558192>that includes killing the sister at the beginningNigger, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>717561324>Just started playing and just defeated DONCHONGWONHONGLUSHUUU whatever that weird incel dude's name was that was in love with the actress or whateverNigger, what the FUCK are you talking about? YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>717561356Have you tried not playing on a nintendo DS? Nian is around, search for him.
Man, the last few bosses in the game are absolute cancer. I don't know who thought it was a good I idea to make half of the latter bosses moveset be composed 50% flying away 1000 miles to the other side of the boss arena, and the other half spinning around in endless combos that unreadable because the boss takes the entire screen. The game started really great and the exploration is top-notch until the end, but the last few bosses really leave a bitter taste.
>>717561356Probably across the bridge, you have to around through the forest to get to him.
>NG+ first time fighting demon of obsession
jesus fucking christ this boss sucks ass
everything that's cancer about this game solidified into one complete drag of a bossfight
>>717562282>calls people retard>can't read subtitles for 2 seconds or use the obvious smashing your face subtle context cluesThe first dream boss? Who literally calls you sister like 3 times. Then the first NPC after talks about your sister that has the same name as the boss, that even has a dialogue option where you ask about her for him to say, "Your sister, don't you remember?"
>>717563054Bai Kru is Wuchang's brother, dumbass. Maybe you shouldn't insinuate that I'm retarded because you're too fucking stupid to know who is who. Fucking faggot. He Youzai asks about Bai Yu who is Wuchang's dead sister. MAYBE YOU SHOULD FUCKING READ, YOU DUMB ASSHOLE
>just walking
>literally fucking DIE out of nowhere at full HP from some red vines popping out
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>>717563296>having no/negative despair resistanceSnooze, ya lose
>>717563226Don't know if baiting or not, but you keep being autistic, little guy.
>>717563415You have no despair resistance, hence the red vines. You got despaired.
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You've got eyes, dumbass. Fucking use them
kek I'm not reading item descriptions in a shitty souls knockoff with some coomer clothes.
Point still stands, game's combat is trash. Now go talk with your myriad of friends I'm sure you have and brag that you know ching-chong lore.
>>717562665I found Zhao Yun way worse.
>>717564287at least you can backstab him
for demon of obsession I had to respec to axe, throw on the shield and go to town on her, only way to stagger that bitch.
>>717564287>>717562665This is actually why I'm no doing NG+
Played blind so I missed these 2 bosses, and I heard they're even harder in NG+ so I'm probably just gonna wait for a nerf patch.
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I totally missed Bo Magus being here on my first run
>>717564436NG+ scaling is 1.6 but turns out that's not nearly enough to keep up with standard endgame levels, so you can essentially steamroll bosses until you hit endgame again
though to fight demon you gotta fight Zhao Yun (I can confirm, even though I had all chisels on NG+ she didn't show until I offed him), and he's also a motherfucker
>>717564682>and he's also a motherfuckerMore like, total pushover
>>717551170S&F7 is pretty good but it's a different kind of game from Fallen Feathers
>>717564749Can't wait to do a dual blades run. Seems great against anything with a weapon.
When a pretty stranger calls you twin
YES GIRL
>>717558192>clash doesnt negate enough dmgdidnt use swordmaster self report
>trying desperately to beat Bo Sorcerer with spear on NG+
>keep getting her low
>just fucking die to a sneeze
>>717524404Doesnt the old man boss glfight drop it? (Optional Boss tied to a quest)
I was having way too hard of a time with spear on her in NG+. It was not as free as I was led to believe
>>717543106You can only set 1 element on the acupoints, you start with fire and can unlock the other elements by opening nodes on the "overall" tree of skills.
The other 4 slots on the acupoints are also opened on that tree, with the last one requiring having defeatead the white haired robe dude.
Those are filled with needles that drop from demons that are fixed to spawn in 7 specific places in the game. First one spawns in the backside of Annalum.
Those 7 demons drop a needle for
>+5 to str /agi /magic /feathering>increased duration of the buff>increased status build up of the buff>increased effect of the stats buffSo if you have the 5 slots opened you might end up with +5 str +5agi extra duration, extra effect, and then the element of your choosing.
Some weapons have their L1 effect increased if you are tempered with an specific element
>>717544435I thought the same, i had just used an emote to learn some of the primordial deity teachings
Weird way to word it out of nowhere
>>717556207>All enemies have infinite poise and usually too much health. Which is fine for tough enemies, but even mooks?Thats why I went with an axe as my weapon. If I could stun monks at the beginning with a two handed sword I would probably chose it
>mana vase upgrade? Why would I need it, I dont use mana
Story about how I went two chapters without health potion upgrades
what
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>>717570840>yet another anon that can't read
>>717514797Nail polish on feet? I will now buy your game
>>717552396I made this recap of the story for another post.
This is not a super curated essay but what i got from the story after paying attention during the game, having watched the oficial lore video and reading some threads.
Spoilers of the endings obviously.
What i got is that Wuchang wants to resurrect her dead younger sister. To do so she goes to her childhouse home to retrieve a tool that her parents used to try to resurrect his toddler brother and fucked it up
She retrieves the tool (the chisel you start with), unbeknownst to her that chisel is a piece out of 5 of a more powerful tool. At some point during those events contracts the feathering disease which messes with her memory and starts taking her arm. She loses conscience at some point on the travel back and her companion leaves her in the care of a tao doctor studying the feathering disease.
Game starts
Wuchang helps find information on the feathering disease and its link to the "Bo" people while tracking the other chisels. She learns of the battle that the old deity had with its rival and how he trapped him but now is starting to seep out of his prison which is causing this whole red mercury shit.
Game ends
During the game we sort of learn that trying to ress her sister wuchang is trapped on a cycle of death and rebirth, this maybe related to straight out obsession, the fact that she has "Bo" blood on her, the chisel, or related to Tao mysticism. We learn about that from the boatman, which seems to be an agent or Death, or perhaps the Grim Reaper itself.
Eventually she is only to break the cycle in 2 of the endings by either going deep into an illusion world in which she ress her sister and lives happily ever after or learning to let go and moving on with her live, sort of taking Fan Yao as her younger sister surrogate. The other ending shows Wuchang trapped on the cycle and being experimented on by the tao doctor.
Without touching in the "themes" of the videogame thats what i got of the story.
>>717570840Based illiterate warrior Chad.
My weapon tier list
>You didn't beat the game
Spears
>Baby mode
Longswords, swords, dual swords, axes
>>717557494>>717556020based, fuck retards who defend lack of savepoints before bosses
>>717571180Just don't die, idiot.
>>717557494Just play Fortnite
>>717569067Ongbal has poisoned your mind with spearveil
Play solar leap and get access to the boss 100% of the time, no where they can run to or hide (i might be exaggerating).
Then just shimmer the stuff you are using spearveil on.
>>717571059Intersting. I wish Sifu had such a nuanced take on the morality of reincarnation/not giving up instead of just presenting "you should forgive the man who murdered your family NOW" as the unambiguous cuck mentality outcome. In terms of gameplay Sifu delivered on it's promises, I just have a violent kneejerk reaction to "vengeance bad" plots that don't do anything more interesting with the themes than tell you that you might as well have quit playing the game at the start.
>>717571246man fuck
how fucking good was Sifu
might reinstall it
>>717571246Wuchang doesn't say vengeance bad at all which is kino. It's more about not coping
>>717571231>Ongbal has poisoned your mind with spearveilI haven't watched anything by this guy in over a year and even then, I rarely watched anything from him. I was using spearveil because it's faster to use than aerial bulwark, not because some fag on youtube
>>717571059i wanted to make the post a bit more nuanced but the 2k characters limit is cucking me
>>717571293>how fucking good was SifuAs a test of your reflexes? No complaints. Aesthetically and musically it's decent too. Literally my only complaint is the "vengeance bad" cuck endings.
>>717571323This more than anything is justifying my engagement with the game.
>>717571231Have people finally jumped on the spear train?
>>717572072No idea,i personally played the game with only spears and didnt have many issues.
Im just trying to convert people to the teachings of our lord and messiah "Solar Leap" allowing you to chase and punish bosses while converting your stacks into might.
Spearveil was fun to use but i truly believe is unnecessary, dodge is good enough for this game.
i got all the endings and did two NG+ cycles and they havent even given my the new deluxe outfits yet
>>717572292Must be nice being neet.
Good tier:
Fire
Kinda shit but works for hybrid builds tier:
Feathering
Situational but okay:
Paralysis, poisebreak, frostbite
What the fuck were they thinking tier:
Everything else
>>717572542Based, fire is always the best element.
>>717572210Spearveil is our true lord though? It does more than just dodge, for example it also grants Resilience (poise). Resilience + the pile bunker spear = extreme jihad. I would only use Solar Leap if I could slot it in somewhere else personally.
>>717557494Boss runbacks do serve a purpose. Not really in titles like Elden Ring or Wuchang to be fair, but to dismiss the concept entirely is retarded. Should you just respawn wherever you died in Dark Souls to save running back to that spot too? And if not, what's different?
>>717573047>Boss runbacks do serve a purposenta but what's the purpose?
>>717573160The same purpose as the levels and the obstacles the devs put in them, they're a hurdle to overcome and something to drain your resources. An easy example of this is the Alonne run back in DS2, the challenge obviously being to get good enough at the runback that you can reach the boss with enough resources to beat him.
I wouldn't say this is how they function at all in Wuchang to be clear and the Devs adding a shrine before every boss in this game wouldn't matter in my eyes, I just don't like how people constantly justify removing difficulty and gameplay aspects with QoL claims.
>>717572542I bought the deluxe edition and the soul ritual set and dragon longsword have been absolutely carrying me through the early content given I'm kinda bad at soulslikes (although I play them all)
I got jarred in my first run. Currently, on my second and wonder if I should ignore him completely, or just not give him the chisel. Right now, I can give him information about some ritual. I assume I should just not tell him.
>>717573493>the challenge obviously being to get good enough at the runback that you can reach the boss with enough resources to beat him.but that hardly seems necessary, since the end result is the player eventually making it back to the boss at no cost
there's no difficulty involved, just trial and error until you figure out the right sequence of inputs. all that's doing is unnecessarily adding time between attempts
>>717572210i used spearveil a lot in NG but switched to aerial bulwark in NG+ for the mitigation buff so i could facetank more
it was good sometimes, but i'd occasionally get hit out of it so i'm not sure it was worth it. the mitigation buff is also pretty short
i definitely prefer dodging over spearveil now because i like controlling where i dodge, and circling around bosses was always pretty effective in making them whiff attacks
>>717573676Do you want info on how not to get jarred?
Basically thats the "default" ending, wouldnt even call it the bad ending.
Basically getting any other ending requires some effort
>>717574030Yeah. Don't care about spoilers on second run. I'm just doing it to get all the bosses I missed.
>>717573681You could make that same argument for having levels at all too. Why not do away with them while you're at it? After all dying in a level is meaningless since you'll eventually figure out the right sequence anyway, and (for some people) the boss at the end is the only reason you're doing it. It's a similar argument for stuff like fast travel and flying mounts. There's plenty of arguments for why they make a game less "tedious" and all, but there's also plenty of arguments for why they make a game boring and free of consequences or risk entirely. Ultimately it depends on the rest of the game whether they're good or not.
>>717533978Yeah, and I've been using it for the entire game. The pogo stick is amazing.
>>717574214>You could make that same argument for having levels at all tooNo, you can't. because levels are about exploration and the designers putting you in different challenging situations with any combination of traps, puzzles, enemy placements, and level layour.
how you deal with them is generally different from player to player but a boss run will be the same for everyone, there's almost always a single correct solution, everyone arrives at the same result: reached the boss again without consuming resources.
there's no aspect of exploration in bee-lining from a bonfire to a boss you've already died to
>>717574212Gonna put it on spoilers for other people just in case.
There are 4 endings. Jarred, Premature and 2 "secret endings" with a more uplifting feel to them.
For premature just tell storyteller to go fuck himself on chapter 4 and go kill Bo Magus, afterwards you take her place as leader of the Bo people
For the secret endings you have to finish He Youzai's (the pinwheel dude that accompanies you) and Fan Yao's (the girl you meet in the pit in act 2 that asks you to save the bride) quests until the end of chapter 4.
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/wuchang-fallen-feathers-he-youzai-fang-yao-quest-secret-ending/2900-6813/
That page has both quests recapped
Once you finished these 2 quests you get 2 halves of a ring. To forge the ring you have to reach act 5 and the questioning door that was by the second shrine. Answer "The wheel turns anew." and you are tp to another area. You can fight demon of obsession there if you have the full chisel (having beat spear white hair dude).
Reforge the ring and decide your ending
Finishing with the ring on your inventory means going deeper into the illusion, you "ress" your little sister and go to live as a pirate with He Youzai and your sister, again 99% this is a limbo/made up world
Use the ring in your inventory means you give up on trying to ress your sister, you go to live as a pirate with He Youzai and Fan Yao, with her being sort of a surrogate for your little sister
Good luck anon
>it's another game where you have to guess what the NPCs want and where they appear next or else you already broke their quests and the extra endings.
GREAT I LOVE IT
>>717574497Perhaps the greatest crime in Miyazaki's long list.
Why do devs continue copying the shit parts of the souls formula, we will never know.
At least Lies of P had that shit fixed, maybe that will catch on (and its other many QoL upgrades)
>>717573676>just not give him the chisel>be me>did not give him the chisel>he somehow still has the chisel in the end cinematic>get stabbed>get on the pickle jarThanks Chang!
>>717574497At least the items say who you're supposed to give them to
>>717574417And what of dying mid level then? By your logic you've already conquered the bits leading up to that and there'd be no harm in having you respawn a few feet back at the entryway of the death room every single time you do. After all having to do it all again is just meaningless tedium that doesn't add anything to the game, players will simply repeat the already solved solutions to the bits leading up to it.
I don't think you have a justification for why it is somehow different.
>>717574452But can I safely ignore the Taoist jarman?
>>717574668Yeah, no point on ignoring him tho
Everytime you have his face to visit on reverent temple you get something from the visit, some consumables or shit
But yeah only important part with him is not giving him the chisel at the end, the rest is depending on finishing these other 2 npc's quests
>>717574724Alright. What about the avian march. I went there first in my first run, and it bricked a lot of stuff. But can I go there before zenwu temple? I've already done perfect bride.
>>717574637my justification is as I've said before, the purpose of levels is primarily exploration. how you go about exploring the level will differ from player to player as varieties of builds create varieties of solutions.
once the last shortcut is opened and you have a path to the boss, nothing about that path changes with anything. every player will take the same path eventually through trial and error
thus the justification for these sections being the "challenge" of getting back without spending some, if any, resources rings hollow to me.
>>717574838Yeah talk to white haired dude in the cave towards mt zemwu (i dont think thats "needed but might as well).
Then once you arrive to where he is before the ladder to avian marsh talk to him and agree to help.
You can go mark the shrine in refugee camp after you talked to him.
Meet him again in avian marsh outside of the cave that had the despair build up in the top of the building and he will go to the bo sorcerer arena
You can summon him there or kill sorcerer alone, either way he will be in the tomb arena afterwards. Go talk to him.
He will be back in the tomb arena on chapter 5, go there kill him, grab the chisel piece off his body.
Now with a full chisel you can do demon of obsession in chapter 5 too, in the area you will forge the ring for the true endings.
>>717574986You're just making an arbitrary distinction, and you haven't even addressed the point. Your build doesn't matter in regards to this topic because each individual player is almost guaranteed to repeat those instances with the same general build when they die, going through levels is just repeating the same solved encounters with the same build until you learn the best way. No different than when running back to the boss, the solution is the same every time and thus by your logic it's meaningless time wasting to have to run back through the same rooms you've beaten.
Every criticism you have for the runbacks applies wholesale to the levels as well (because they're the same thing), the only difference given is that you've decided the "level" is over once the boss door is reached for no real reason. You haven't explained why a boss runback can't take into account the player's build or how they'll approach it either, you have simply tried to state it as a matter of fact.
>>717573493the runbacks in wuchang serves no purpose, in most case theres barely any enemies in the way. It's just dated game design, especially the ones that involve elevators
None of the runbacks in Wuchang require you to engage with enemies (with exception of two bosses in ch4 and you can just run past the mobs) and thus only exist to waste time. I would argue that sometimes being inconvenient and wasting time is important for the design and gamefeel but ultimately it's just an arbitrary time waste.
>>717575491>Every criticism you have for the runbacks applies wholesale to the levels as wellagain, no they don't. you're forgetting that levels involve dynamic problem solving. in new levels, encounters are unsolved until the area is fully explored
HOW they're solved depends on your build so, yes builds are absolutely relevant here. a runback is just a static optimization to which nearly every player will arrive to the same conclusion regardless of build
because it becomes a matter of just sprinting through the area and not getting hit, there's nothing dynamic about that.
>you've decided the "level" is over once the boss door is reached for no real reasonbecause the climax of a level is almost always marked by the appearance of a boss fight, after all shortcuts have been opened up. that's just how these games are designed so a runback puts the player through a much shorter version of the level with no new discoveries, no new encounters, nothing to meaningfully challenge the player
it just wastes time.
>>717575548>>717575629>enemiesno one in the history of forever has ever fought enemies on runbacks dafuk? Runbacks on this game serve the purpose of charging your skyborn passive and elevators you just send back up at the bottom
>>717574497Love Fromsoft but I really hate this. I just use a guide on NG+ and up.
>>717574497you will stay in the jar cycle and you will like it
So I just skipped like 90% of bird forest, by going through the rebel camp. Is there anything worthile going back for? I can't remember there being any quest items there, aside from the general.
>>717576259There's a flask upgrade at least
>>717576259Weapon upgrade materials
>>7175762591 nail for sure
1 of each flask upgrades at least
Bunch of feathers for upgrades
Talisman that improves bullets.... cant recall any other talisman off hand
>>717576392also 2 red eye enemies for free levels at least
>>717576392>Talisman that improves bulletswhat exactly is that even good for? I went the entire game and found nothing that used or involved bullets
>>717576392>>717576431And Glut's and Matchstick's quest items
>>717576464There is a spear on act 2 that has a shitty machinegun on its L1
And i know there is an axe that shoots cannonballs but i didnt use that one, well not that i used the spear either, i just fiddled with it a bit
I got owned by the last boss so I used the spell that does a million projectiles and killed the him in like 2 casts.
>>717576865Can't relate, i killed him first try and legit thought it was just a victory lap boss
Haven't read about many anons having trouble with him.
Then again i probably hold some sort of record of wipes against HongLan V1. I might have died there as much as the rest of the bosses combined, not even trying to meme here
>>717560874A lot of guides are full of bullshit as the game is still new, yes.
>tiger boss has a second phase
it's over for me, I'll never beat this motherfucker
>>717560874You sure it was Fan Yao and not the resurrected sister?
Which is the ending you should get if you kept the ring.
Top is with your sister on an endless fake worl
Bottom is with Fan Yao after accepting your sister's passing.
Basically maelle and verso again
>>717577605P2 isnt that hard(er)
I killed p2 the third time or so i reached it
Question about the pendants that give + to stab/slash/blunt damage. All weapons have all three damage when looking at their damage. But, do only certain attacks have that specific damage type? So if I use a pendant that increase stabbings, it will not work on most dual blades attacks, despite them having it as a damage type?
>>717577936Thats how i took it
I played spears so i assumed "most" of my attacks will be stabbing dmg but not all
Then i realized i didnt give a fuck about having to wonder which ones were or weren't and ended up going for more "overall" pendants.
I used stam regen, heal on kill, and more dmg done/received while doing levels.
For bosses i kept stam regen and the other 2 slots switched beteen dmg to large enemies, resistance to roars, increased dmg on skills, less dmg overall received, increase all physical dmg, etc
new outfits and patch when???
bro I love this game but I need it to be done. Hate how the last area is just the first area but spooky
>>717578991>Hate how the last area is just the first area but spooky>last areaNobody tell him
>>717579120oh no please god I need to finish the game I have a job and a family
>>717579175without spoiling much
The area you are at is usually called chapter 4
it has 2 bosses both optional
there is a chapter 5
>>7175792813 bosses, all optional
>>717578991>>717579120>>717579175>>717579281lil bro thinks he can simply wrap up and finish this nightmare
but he's here for fucking ever (like the rest of us)
>>717542332no lol
its for the secret ending