Thread 717507338

Are you enjoying the /YEAR OF THE MUSOU/?

>Dynasty Warriors: Origins sold over a million within a month
>Recieved high praise from critics, even people who prevously seen it as a joke franchise
>Abyss dropped out of nowhere with loads of free updates
>Some tendie musou game confirmed
>Major DLC for Origins in the works
>Old DW game getting remastered for modern platforms, probably DW5
>Origins part 2 up to Wuzhang Plains is all but confirmed, based on the directors previous comments

Origins being a success has felt like a rebirth for the whole genre, we're gonna be eating well for a long time. After the origins sequel we will probably get an Empires release to cap it off, and then a "DW10" with the traditional big roster during the PS6 gen of gaming.

>>717507338 (OP)
I'm glad honestly. Origins was fun, but deep down i am hoping they do another bladestorm entry. I would love euro musou kino.
>abyss
How is it?

>>717507338 (OP)
I have high hopes (copes) for this DLC. I want playable characters/free mode. Also customizable MC but that's not likely to happen because the director is a faggot (real one).

I am not optimistic about the remaster at all though. This is KT. They're monkeys. They don't know how to code so they'll fuck it up somehow. They can't even properly port new games (see DW8XL and SW4-II) let alone old ones. Also they might ruin it with "modern fixes" like what Capcom did to Onimusha. Or God forbid they might "remaster" it with UE5 skin like they did with NG2B.
All they have to do is package DW3/4/5 with XL and Empires into one HD pack with native 4K rendering. Maybe also a Japanese voice option. That's it. But again, they're monkeys so they'll find a way to ruin it.

>>717507868
abyss is pretty fun for what it is, nothing really mind blowing but if you enjoy games like vampire survivors or hades and are a big fan of musou it will be enjoyable, it definitely has the feel of a budget title though, i'd wait for a sale, give it a couple hours and see if you want to refund or keep it

i miss the shitty english voice acting bros, i miss it like you wouldn't believe, i hope the remaster rumors are true

>>717508461
They should let blue point do it. The musou games need more realistic faces, more diversity and less same faced pretty doll-like anime people (its immersion breaking)-- ac shadows is out, so all the dynasty warriors even the newest one look pretty dated visually. The series has an icky 2000s anime residue it needs to get rid of.

And a post game with a flipped map and some collectibles would make these games a lot more replayable.

>>717508948
it's not a rumour they confirmed an old DW game is being remastered a few days ago

>>717507338 (OP)
>literally nothing but trash
not really enjoying it
wake me up when we get a new Gundam musou or the series stops being made for fags and fujoshi

>>717508948
Theyll redub it, and it will sound worse. Itll be voiced by a bunch of texans impersonating funimation actors like bryce papenbrook and itll be annoying as hell. Itll be completely soulless.

>>717509178
I doubt they'll revoice anything. It'll be basic visual improvements like 4k support, longer draw distance, more troops being able to render on-screen at once, some shader stuff like ambient occlusion, and basic QoL improvements like free targeting while attacking like in the later games.

I'll probably still play the emu versions because of all the mods made for them, like making troops more aggressive etc.

>>717507338 (OP)

MUSUO IS BORING
IT'S BORING TO BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER WORTH 1000 GUYS BY YOURSELF
IF IT WAS 30 GUYS IT WOULD HONESTLY BE A BETTER RATIO

I liked Origins though

>>717509604
I too would like a DW spin-off that was more realistic/simulation based. Like you're part of an actual army on a dynamic battlefield instead of a hero who does everything.

It would be a complete chance of pace however so it would need to be it's own game and not the mainline DW franchise.

>>717507338 (OP)
Samurai warriors bros.....

>>717508997
bait aside I'm not going to completely disagree with it, much to your chagrin

DWO is already much grittier and muddier looking than the last 4 games but it's uneven in that sense. Lu Bu's armor looks good (after so long) and characters that got redesigned to be more gritty and grounded (like Guan Yu) look pretty good and fitting. Ziluan's subdued attire should've been a visual cue for the rest of the cast to follow. But it's not. So you still get retarded, silly looking characters like Han Dang and Xu Chu that now stick out even more for looking like retards. The game is in this ugly mismatched limbo, where half the cast is more subtle and gritty while the rest are reused DW9 slop assets.

Pick a lane. What I would honestly prefer at this point, for a change, is the Wo Long's dark art direction. Those designs were insane. Very much drawing from historical armors but still with a lot of spice. Dong Zhuo's Wo Long design being his absolute peak in all of media. The dude was a fat tyrant that used to be an incredibly competent soldier and general - he wasn't just a hateful fat cunt.

As for anime doll girls in DWO - Ziluan is unironically cuter despite being a guy. And they accomplished that by making him look more realistic and Asian. So yes, they should also face scan people for more realistic look, like Team Ninja does.

>>717509140
the gundam games are the epitome of trash.

>>717510095
there used to be one on steam, it was online 16v16 with deathmatch, siege mode, etc.

it got pulled off steam and only exists in china now iirc. game was tight as hell

>>717510768
YOU TAKE THAT BACK DOGFUCK

>>717509604
I like the idea of being one guy killing a bunch of guys, but when i swing my sword in these games theres no weight on impact, enemies go flying in a single hit, even ones that were no where near my sword and all their animations are the same and at that sync'd up so it looks cheap and fake it feels like im steven seagal and these dudes are just pretend to hit by me. And they do just pace back and forth a lot waiting to get hit.

>>717507338 (OP)
It was a fun game, I wished the tactics were more interesting though (less CD, either more of them or just let us use any we want in a fight, not just 4)
The story replay could have used more checkpoints too.

>>717510613
Samurai Warriors Origins...

>>717508461
God Free Mode would be nice. I really don't know why they didn't put it in.

>>717510768
Gundam Warriors 3 is excellent.

>>717510860
Gundam is cool and fun
Gundam Musou is bad and trash

I'll be replaying encounters in space for the 1 millionth time.

I want a musou beat em up...

>>717508948
I love this dude voice in sw2

You have until this thread archived to say why you haven't played Warriors Abyss yet.

>>717511370
Gundam Musou was kino and we want more of it

>replaying encounters in space for the 1 millionth time
Why don't you play Never Ending Tomorrow? It's a sequel to Encounters in Space. Gameplaywise.

is the dlc going to be actual dlc or 35 dlcs of costumes

>>717511837
Is my wife in there?

>>717512294
They specifically worded it as MAJOR DLC so I'd expect some actual game-changing stuff.

>>717512348
The game pretends that DW9 doesn't exist so no.

>>717512294
I'd expect an XL style expansion, 1 or 2 hypotheticals for lu bu/yellow turbans, probably some new weapons and skills, a few new outfits. Maybe a dedicated free mode.

>>717512453
Ok so there's my reason.

>>717512348
No, but surprisingly they're still updating the game and adding characters so maybe there's a chance. Although a few weeks ago it was Ninja Gaiden characters, and before that Atelier characters.

I bought Origins last week, it’s very cromulent. Glad it’s getting DLC because it’s probably the best Warriors they’ve put out in over a decade.

I hope Hyrule Warrior end up with a similar feel to the combat, but I’m expecting they’ll rely too much on the TotK powers and it will feel just as clunky as the last one.

I'm hoping they improve/expand some of the existing weapons movesets before they start adding new ones.

>>717513665
I can definitely see them adding a small number of new skills to the existing weapons as well as brand new weapons

>>717507338 (OP)
i loved origins despite its gay overtones. we are so back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-bms2HcIpw

I'm hoping they improve/expand some of the gay sex mechanics. You know some of the gay fellatio combos and such. Square, square, hold triangle for prostate massage etc. Who's to say.

>>717511837
I have played it. It's fun. I have beaten it up to level 5, I think there's one left I need to do.

>>717515252
Where's Kasumi? She was in Musou All Stars she has a usable musou moveset.

>>717515309
Probably being saved for a future DOA update, together with Honkers and Marie.

>>717515309
Kasumi is a DOA girl and the previous update was about Ninja Gaiden characters, Year of the Ninja and all. I honestly don't think there will be a DOA character update because that franchise doesn't have anything going on outside of the Xtreme series.

I want the 8 bodyguards from 3&4 back that are wrecking-balls and you can customize. We get the 50 guards in origins, but its very impersonal. You're so strong you don't need them and you don't really notice them outside of their tactics.

So combine the two. Give the player the 8 bodyguards we can level up and customize who become aggressive, elite warriors. And the 50 bodyguards in origins, just don't call them bodyguards. Just make them a formation that follows the player that we can command with the tactics.

Fun fact: in the early games officers (including the player if you played as an existing officer of the stage) had two sets of troops would would follow you around wherever you went, as well as your bodyguards. This was sadly removed in the later games and a lot of players didn't even notice it was happening in the early games because they just didn't pay attention to the simulation side of the games.

>>717515646
>I honestly don't think there will be a DOA character update because that franchise doesn't have anything going on outside of the Xtreme series.
It does have reusable movesets for Kasumi, Honkers and Marie from Warriors All-Stars.

>>717516982
>8 bodyguards from 3&4 back
Word. I want my Kpop boy band entourage.

>>717511092
Hmm

what do you think the real dynasty warriors would think of their portrayals in the DW games?

>>717507338 (OP)
DLC better be empires as a mode or something along those lines. And officer creation

>>717507868
Abyss is insanely fun, like quality endless mindless fun
Only five bosses but tons of characters, builds, upgrades, etc
They keep adding new modes and further upgrades (and characters) in free patches every two or three months
Last patch was four Ninja Gaiden characters
Likely getting William from Nioh next
Just a great time

>>717521924
Probably about the same as they’d think about how they’re represented in RoTK.

>>717522132
unrealistic expectations, you won't get either of things in a DLC. Empires will be it's own game released after the sequel, and the director has already heavily hinted that character creation will replace Ziluan in the sequel.

>>717521924
Xu Chu would rightfully seethe.

>>717511092
SW5 was basically that no

>>717523580
no

>>717507338 (OP)
I know it's supposed to be sometime this month but when are they doing the newest DLC fan voted who wants to be playable characters for pirate warriors 4?

Abyss is really great, Origins was as well. I bet the DLC is the Lu Bu route.

>>717507338 (OP)
I love Ziluan's expressions, the sad/disappointed one makes me want to hug him and FUCK HIM . I don't know how Koei mogged Cloud Strife this hard, but they did it, Cloud is nowhere near Ziluan's level when it comes to looks

>want to play origins again with fresh stats
>don't want to have to unlock all the bodyguards & tactics

I hope an update or the DLC emplements some kind of way of resettings stats while keeping all the unlocks

I really want the roster back

>>717523067
>unrealistic expectations
Why? XL stand-alone editions of these games are dead due to lawsuit. By they can still make big overhaul DLCs. They'd be retarded not to considering the sales of this game.

Am I the only person that feel off of Origins hard? Did not click with me like most other Musou games.

Just bought Origins, what's a good language to play it in? Koei Tecmo game dubs are always trash but I don't like Japanese audio on games that don't take place in Japan.

>>717526096
probs 2030 at the earliest, since we've got origins part 2 and probably an empires before they go back to the big roster formula.

an empires might see a semi-return to the big roster, in that there will probably be playable characters but with the shared weapon set of origins instead of all being unique.

>>717508948
ZHANG MAN CHENG RRRRRRRECEIVE THE POWAAAAH!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub3wU90BvM4

>>717527962
They're not going to add a character creator when it's already all but confirmed the sequel will be a CC instead of playing as ziluan. It's a clear selling point so they're not gonna stick that in a DLC.

And they're not going to release an empires as a DLC when they can release an empires as a stand-alone title like they always do, and secondly origins has nowhere near enough stages and characters for it to really work. That's why people think they will wait until after the sequel before releasing an Empires, since then they will be able to combine the stages and characters from both origins titles into it

This DLC will be an XL release in all but name. New hypothetical routes for at least Lu Bu, more weapons, more skills, more companions etc.

>>717524654
>I don't know how Koei mogged Cloud Strife this hard
Simple: Cloud has ugly deep-set eyes, which is a residue of anime style designs that only somewhat worked in highly stylized 3D anime graphics. But the more realistic you make everything else to be, the more uncanny this 3DCG style looks. Especially on more lithe, feminine, androgynous characters; because deep-set eyes are inherently a masculine, mature trait.

If your character is manly, like Jin Kazama or Kiryu from Yakuza or the recent example of Soul from Phantom Blade Zero, then deep-set eyes can at least look like they fit with the character.

But if your character is more on the young and androgynous side, cute even, then giving him these frowny sunken gaunt eyes takes away from the neotenous look and just makes the design language look more disjointed.

Ziluan sidesteps this problem by having normal Asian eyes. Not just surface but with proper lids and folds. His eyes only appear deeper when he's frowning in musou attacks because they did their homework with facial nodes animations.

Pic related, the gaunt eyes scale. See how this character trait works for the manly guys but falls short on Cloud? Also notice just how different Ziluan's eyes as a whole are.
Zilly is just cuter overall, simple as.

>>717528631
We'll just have to wait and see. It's the number one complaint/request and retconning Ziluan as customizable would make it easier on them for the sequel. Sequel still isn't deep in development, so it's not too late. This way they could keep Zilean and the retarded OC characters plot point/perspective instead of having to make yet another original protagonist AND having to deal with Zilean, this mute characterless donut, just existing as an incredibly important character on the side.

It's not like it would be hard. Fucker is mute anyway and from the interviews even in mid-development they had the proposition to make him customizable. Sho just liked his Coldsteel the Hedgehog too much to allow that.

>>717507338 (OP)
I won't be happy until they announce Arslan 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcH7cSvpWnQ

>>717511837
don't have the itch to play it yet. i did buy it a few weeks ago though.

>>717529610
I think I hate Shu

>>717511837
i have and i like it
i bought the base edition i'm torn between buying some dlc to support the game so they keep adding free content and not wanting to support kecmo's judaism

>>717529848
you've long since benefited from the bounty of the han and you state such traitorous statements!? your arrogance rivals the size of mt. tai! someone give this man 200 lashes!!

>>717528081
chinese, obvs

With how arguably small Origins is, DLC expectations are pretty easy to come up with.
>free mode
>lu bu route
>a couple new movesets and associated skills
>maybe a real NG+
That said, they'd sooner capitalize on a sequel then nickeling and dimeing DWO with DLC. The real question is if they've committed to this as an actual series reboot.

>>717507338 (OP)
i got bored of origins in about 3 hours.

>>717530639
why rush with a sequel when the most interesting part of RotK is in Origins? might as well properly flesh it out

>>717511837
>Warriors Abyss
what the fuck is this shit.

i am waiting for touken ranbu warriors and arslan warriors to go on sale
i assume that'll be during the fall sale

>>717531020
Dopamine rush.

>>717531034
>>717529414
Oh my God... femoids on /v/...

>>717528048
I can get why. You do have quite a lot of movesets if you consider all the weapons and skill combinations, but you miss the thing where you play other characters, decide this one is too shit to play, this one is fun, and then play them. It's weapons based now, and desu I had issues determining which skill is good and which is trash because there isn't a good way to test it out, what works against mooks might turn out to do no damage to a general. I still loved the game though, but I'd wish to have a "recommend skills" button or something

It feels like they nerfed Abyss's difficulty.
>play a few weeks ago
>having trouble getting past 2nd/3rd zone
>play this week
>first run gets to the final boss
>second run clears him
I didn't really play any similar games in the interim so I doubt I improved any. I don't really know anything about how to make builds in this game btw I just grab whatever makes the number biggest and let my boywife arrange them.
>>717531565
I'm just a fag. I even play otoge (although I play those for both the FL and the guys).

i hope they add rio and the deception girls from musou stars to warriors abyss. their movesets were killer.

>>717531671
YWNBAM

Musou bros, I pray that 3 is the remake. That game is nicely difficulty, has TONS of content and unlockables, and basically I would play it for another 500 hours. It was my intro to the series so it always remains in my heart.

How is Three Hopes if I liked Three Houses enough to care about the characters? I need my fix while I wait for this Origins DLC

>>717531927
They didn't say REMAKE they said REMASTER. In any case I just hope they include XL and Empires with it.

>>717530882
sorry about your taste, better luck next life

>>717531973
potayto, potahto
If they port it to a modern engine that can have more than 10 guys on screen at once, that'll do for me

>>717531761
wtf

I got Warriors Orochi 4 on sale a bit ago. It's fun I guess but I really hate the over all presentation. And the story basically just being Naotora going EEEEEEEEEEEEEH GOMEN KYYYYYYYYYYYYA is really making want to Pursue Lubu myself.

>>717530639
The sequel is probably in the works or at least the planning stage already even if its not officially confirmed, Sho has talked about it way too much. in a post-origins interview Sho also mentioned the team being big enough to work on more than one title at a time, so they're probably split between origins DLC & origins part 2 right now. There's also the remaster, but that can be done with just a few devs as it's likely just a straight port with higher resolution support etc.

>>717531635
>there isn't a good way to test it out

kek did you miss the test mode literally made for testing weapons & skills?

>>717532167
felt like a pretty budget tier entry compared to 3. pretty fun still. and it did give us athena.

>>717531927
3 would be cool, but it's gonna be DW5+XL remastered in one package. It's the most polished of the PS2 era games with loads of content.

>>717528048
DWO has problem with movesets and variety. They're all distinct and mostly unique in their mechanics, yes but some are more fleshed out than the others. Which is noticeable because there's so few of them to begin with and half are unfun. And on top of that you only have 1 faggot character so it all gets dull quickly.
DWO, despite being the most mechanically complex musou game in terms of combat, will likely become one of my least revisited musou games because the appeal of cool RotK characters is removed and combat, despite being vastly improved over other entries, is not DMC-tier deep enough to keep me compelled.

DW9 was so catastrophic for the franchise (movesets so unusable WO4 uses DW8 characters despite coming after DW9 lol AND Abyss ignoring it too) it needed a complete reimagining of combat mechanics. And this effort forced them to remove one of the most appealing aspects of these games - characters.

Again, if DLC/XL re-release doesn't address this then Origins will just fade away with unrealized potential.

>>717531671
Nah, you maybe just put the right heroes in your team. You should get those who boost your playable characters and/or team's emblems. Let's say you're a Brave General and you see Ujiyasu Hojo, it'd be good to get his tactic and boost yourself, and then put several brave generals (and shinobi if he's transcended) in your team. Try to spend karma on weapons for guys you like because you will be finding a lot in chests, transcend guys who get an additional emblem or name, like Hojo. Getting mostly the same element in your team and +120% element damage like Gan Ning, Yukimura, Cao Pi or Ma Chao is also good. Enma is cute, but he is quite dumb at picking your team, so I suggest taking the matter into your own hands at some point. By the way characters that generate money like Goemon, Sun Shangxiang, Gracia can be awesome. Just unequip them before the boss fights, unless you can do it with them in which case you should

>>717528820
You have a good point, maybe Cloud would be better if he turned that frown upside down. But yeah, I think Ziluan being more realistic and less uncanny adds here.

DWO is really good but part of the charm was playing different characters. The protagonist is awful.

>>717532646
It was very clearly a rush job to try and recoup after DW9 crashed and burnt and I expected as much going in but it just felt so hollow presentation wise. 3 had a little hub, there was a more non linear approach to things, it felt like it just had more OOMF to it. WO4 almost feels like, and I hate to use this comparison, but it feels almost like a gacha game in terms of presentation.

My fav empires game, sadly came before the sanada one

>>717532646
Warriors orochi empires when

>>717533162
Been asking for this for ages

>>717532892
pc when

>>717532769
>Cloud would be better if he turned that frown upside down
Yes I was about to add that this isn't an expressions/animations problem. It's a model and art direction problem.
Jin, Kiryu, Cloud, Wolf etc. all have permanent frowns because their eye sockets are simply super deep. They can't have any other expression since that's their model/bone. Ziluan's character model "cheats" because when he frowns, the animation nodes on his eyes area either bulge the brow ridge or push the eyes in, like in OP's pic >>717507338 (OP) giving him more expressions when in and out of combat. Meaning when he's sad and you pull the model's brows on the outside it's more noticeable that he's emoting sadness - because his neutral face has normal eyes.

This problem of deep-set eyed characters stems from trying to translate cool anime eyes into realistic 3D models - it just doesn't work. It's also related to a fact that Japanese devs also love this type of look because most of them are Gen X/old Millennials that grew up with macho icons like Sugawara Bunta, Toshiro Mifune, Tatsuya Nakadai etc. which had deeper eyes than usual AND would constantly squint in their most iconic scenes in samurai and yakuza movies. Again this -can- work in manly characters like Kazuya Mishima, Jann Lee and Kiryu but it does not mesh well with young pretty boys like Cloud in realistic looking FF7 Remake. If everything was more anime and stylized, like in Kingdom Hearts, then his look wouldn't be so uncanny.

tl;dr Asian devs need to embrace the fact that they do not have strong brow ridges like their favorite 60s mob boss. Pic related, how they want to look on top and how they look when facescanned. They have neotenous Asian eyes and the sooner they embrace that the sooner they'll be able to shift to their peak performance advantages (their cute young looks) - which is what they did with Ziluan.

when will there be a final fantasy musou so that k-t can turn cloud into the sexy twink he was meant to be instead of a perma-scowling goon?
oh and tifa breast physics i guess

>>717534293
Sekiro is so ridiculously fucking handsome

Playing Orochi 3 and Samurai 4 make me miss having an English dub. It's so much harder to tell what the hell is going on in any given battle.

>>717536220
Discretion is the better part of valor.

What can we expect out of Orochi 5? Can we even expect Orochi 5?

>>717536563
We'll need >>717511092 first.

>>717536563
>>717536721
I'm hoping just for samurai 6 proper. No more origins. I want my samurai waifu back

>>717538618
Nah, it needs another Origins reboot because SW5, kinda like DW9, skullfucked the franchise. Fucked with the character designs, art style and movesets/clones.

So now it needs an Origins reboot not just to fix the series' direction but to also make it compatible with DWO in order to make WO5 eventually.

>>717538990
Of all the issues with Samurai 5 I don't think the art style itself was ever really the problem. LOoooooooooooooot of other shit to fix though.

>>717533162
>Warriors orochi empires when

>>717539089
I liked some of the designs too, including the controversial Ieyasu one. But it's too different and incompatible with DWO's art style, meaning they won't be able to pull WO5 that way.

For anyone saying Orochi doesn't matter: It does since that shit prints money. Not just because it's popular on its own but because it's cheap to make - literally just recycling assets and bashing them together.

>>717534293
>Asian devs need to embrace the fact that they do not have strong brow ridges like their favorite 60s mob boss.
and yet you named a bunch of actors who had those traits
>inb4 they didn't look like the average jap
good thing most books/movies/games are not about average people, your way of thinking is the reason why non-whites cast in western movies are so ugly, for whatever reason they have to conform to the stereotyped view you have of them, whites can be represented by their best but non whites have to be represented by their lowest and most stereotypical-looking
don't get me wrong, you also have the extreme opposite that is just as stupid, like turkroaches who shove all their blonde blue eyed descendants of janissaries in their series but still

>>717541015
>and yet you named a bunch of actors who had those traits
They had slightly deeper eyes than average Japanese but their exaggerated look that inspired the vidya characters was talking about was only when they were comically squinting like mad to look more menacing.
In their resting face their eyes are hooded like pic related Mifune on the right. Well Tatsuya Nakadai (left) had deeper eyes I guess. What a unique looking man, eve among non-Asians.

>good thing most books/movies/games are not about average people, your way of thinking is the reason why non-whites cast in western movies are so ugly
Oh no no, I agree with you don't get me wrong. The average person isn't a Kpop beauty like Ziluan either.
It's just that I'm personally biased since I prefer the modern pop look that Zilean has and I'd want to see more of that type of aesthetic after decades of the cro magnon guys. In my view that's the good looking cream of the crop they have to offer, be it stereotypical or not.

>>717536563
>SW5 has different artstyle and designs which clash with the classic warriors style
man i don't even want to think about it.

>>717533820
F

>>717533792
>>717539609
Bruh

>>717533820
When we get DW7 Empires.

How do we feel about Total War Three Kingdoms?

>>717539769
I didn't like Ieyasu but I also get it. If this was during the young Nobunaga days he'd be younger too. The rest of the series kind of started with Oda being older.

>>717545472
I think rats over at CA should get bombed. Not in Minecraft btw, in real life. I wish I could hire a cheap London Paki to just go over there to their offices and explode.

They teased the Korean DLC and then pulled the fucking plug because they got ratfucked by Netease over DLC publishing rights, out of their own volition. At times the game was pulling more players than TWW3 despite the canned support.

Hell rape upon them.

>>717539089
>>717545774
I didnt like them giving mallets as a weapon to generic officers and soldiers

>>717544116
Is that a real dog?

>>717548748
It's clearly a boglin.

I remember being scared as hell after WO3U came out. That's the kind of game you make when you're closing up shop for good.

>>717510726
I think Koei have been pulling a lot from Ravages of Time lately, and I hope they do more. Hell, an official Musou of it would be outstanding.

>>717548985
>YFW when Ryu shows up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-WdyFpZ5jA

I didn't even know he was supposed to be in the game

I had some fun with origins' demo, but I heard there wasn't a lot of replayability, nothing to really go back and do once you beat it, did that get fixed or should I just wait for the DLC/second version?

Is /v/ a bad enough dude they think they can beat up the musou Qiao sisters in real life?

>>717549759
They're like four foot nine

>>717549759
no way. xiao is a fucking psychopath by herself.

>>717549537
I remember getting vanilla on a whim, and when I got to this part I was losing my damn mind. I don't even think I knew they had rights at the time. Game was such a blast, and then when Ultimate came out with that much more content? It really is one of the best musou experiences.

>>717549537
sophitia was the inclusion that really got me personally. i can't believe they picked her and not nightmare though.

I fucking LOVE musou games and wish I could get one for every time period and culture, as well as every anime and other game franchise

Soulcalibur Musou
Final Fantasy Musou
Super Robot Wars Musou

all of it

>>717549616
There are different routes in the story and different weapons and skills to replay with.

It's the least replayable of the games, but that's among a series with insane replayability as baseline.

4chan musou when?

>>717539089
They did some rather jarring personality changes to the characters.

>>717550117
I know they got a Namco rep because of the business from One Piece and Gundam, but I always wondered why Soul Calibur and why Sophitia specifically. I would've thought Tales was more likely to get a rep between the two.

>>717550175
wish they would revisit european musous.

>>717549974
Orochi 3 had this crazy celebratory vibe. It felt like everything was really getting a chance to shine. And this why I think 4 is such a poor follow up.

>>717550584
Bladestorm would have made an excellent one

I like it as is, but would have liked it better as a musou

>>717550469
SC kind of fits musou. it is weapon based combat after all. lot of the characters would fit right at home. honestly kilik could probably pass with a zhao yun moveset clone and it would feel natural.

>>717531565
Arslan kicks ass. Epic war fantasy anime is way too under utilized.

>>717550715
4 is the better game objectively though. The movesets and characters from DW8 and SW4 are leagues better and more fun than DW7/SW3, and the new god characters are absolutely nutso

>>717550859
That may be true on a mechanical level but I dunno. There's still just something about it that's just not as fun. It's just really poorly presented and frankly I don't feel the same level of immersion.

>>717550816
Would have been better with the original style rather than the boring remake

>>717550947
I don't disagree really, I do prefer the designs of the OVA but I like the remake fine. The manga version is a lot better than TV series. They weren't really gonna make a game based on a OVA from the early 90s so you get what you get.

>>717550798
Plus they have plenty of fodder enemy types.
You have the malfested of course, legions of servants to Soul Edge
Regular soldiers of every nation
Lizardmen
Plus the boss monsters from the games like the giant statue from 3

A SC Musou could really come together well

>>717507338 (OP)
>Abyss dropped out of nowhere with loads of free updates
never played any musou, dw or wo game
this looks fucking sick.
might get it, what am i in for?

If they can make Berserk Musou, they can make Bastard!! Musou

>>717507338 (OP)
I was promised my precure musou, where is my precure musou

>>717550715
>>717550859
>>717550946
4's issue is being the extinguisher to the fire that was DW9. It was way too soon for another Orochi game, but Koei needed money fast. So we got WO4 shit out with bare minimum compared to 3U. That game set the bar. But I do appreciate the updated movesets, which 3 still ultimately tackled anyway.
>>717551325
Abyss is the only game that looks like that, fyi. If you're into the Vampire Survivors roguelite gimmick, you'll be right at home. It is, however, NOT indicative of the vast majority of musou games.

>>717551325
It's like those old portable games. Where they'd condense the main appeals of major instalments into one arcadey game. Try the demo, it's pretty addictive.

>>717551175
I honestly think if it was ever going to be made, it would have already. I think we missed the opportunity when SC5 bombed so horribly, which then affected SC6's sales, and the series reputation, despite being a much better game. I'd love an SC Musou so I hope I'm wrong though.

>>717551489
>which 3 still ultimately tackled anyway
No, it never updated the movesets or added characters. DW7 was a terrible clone-ridden base with many weapons just being a snoozefest, and SW3 was still working with PS2 assets and movements.

>>717551489
Abyss is unique but it nails that dopamine rush you get after crowd controlling a bunch of peons.

>>717551576
3 decloned every charge attack of any DW character that shared a weapon.

>>717551559
>>717551489
Abyss looks like MUA3 but with just one character

>>717551771
I totally forgot Koei did MUA3. How'd that play, anyway?

>>717551427
Right after my Symphogear musou.

>>717551862
Movie soon™, anon. Definitely after Princession Orchestra and Armed Fantasia. Totally.

We’ve had a Persona musou, I’d take dick for a Metaphor musou

>>717551686
But not the base movesets, and the animations were shared between like 1/3 of the cast. For example, all the "big guys" were given the exact same stances and running animations.

I also hated 3's hydra gimmick stages. In fact 3 has some of the worst stages of the series, I always have a hard time picking one to play because so many are just a chore. This was during the time when Koei thought stages should be railroaded linear flowcharts where the game just tells you what to do at every step like directing traffic.

>>717552003
Persona Strikers was better than Persona 5.
But miss me with that metaphor shit.

>>717551489
>>717551559
i dont enjoy vampire survivors because it's an autoattacker bullet heaven with little strategy other than dodge the enemy's hitboxes
is abyss the same or is there actually player input beyond moving around?

>>717551771
Yeah, visually I get that comparison - top-down, flashy VFX spam, kinda chunky character models - but gameplay-wise it’s way more involved. MUA3 is mostly button-mashing with co-op fluff layered on, but Abyss gives you actual build variety and decision-making mid-run. Think more like "what if Hades and Musou had a baby but it inherited the ADHD of Vampire Survivors." You’re not just coasting through, you’re managing mobs, chaining skills, and actually having fun with enemy patterns.

>>717552015
4 is boring. It's just boring.

>>717552984
I have never played Vampire Survivors or Hades.

>>717552875
No, you manually attack. You build a team as you complete floors, and everyone has several traits that you want to try and synergize for particular builds/effects, among other things like element orbs and character weapons. Mind you, you only play as one character of your choosing. The team you accrue give you additional combo finishers and aformentioned passive traits if you synergize. There's depth to spare for what it is.

Origins would have been better with a small roster of real characters instead of one donut steel.

Weapon Switch has been an absolute plague on this series since 7 and this is the logical conclusion of its introduction.

>>717552875
You attack by yourself and have up to 6 special moves to cycle through, as well as 2 gauges to worry about trying to fill up and use big special moves with. I would say the level of input required is higher than an average musou, but lower than a full on action game. It plays more like Hades than Vampire Survivors.

>>717553396
>Origins would have been better with a small roster of real characters instead of one donut steel.

It's also in this bizarre middle grounds where it's not quite OC DONUT enough. Like they could have probably imported the Nioh 2 character creator.

>>717553339
>>717553435
so it's basically diablo but musou
ok, sold

>>717553082
I'm mad they jumped to two more pantheons before even finishing with either Japanese or Chinese ones. Where the hell's Amaterasu? How about the other three god beasts after Yinglong?

>>717554031
Anon, this is Koei. They never "finish" a group of potential playable characters before jumping to someone totally irrelevant and out of left field. Someone big and obvious always gets skipped over forever.

>>717554031
I'm still shocked with never got Cao Cao's wife.

SW4 made Saika so fucking good bros, holy FUCK

>>717555482
Sw4 is just really good.

Wait, where are the clones for the General's Sword in DWO? That was Cao Cao's weapon gimmick in 8, wasn't it?