Thread 717520514

>nobody will enable secure boot to play Battlefield 6
Well well well...

Why should I care about cattle and their stupidity? They already supported adding malware anti-cheat to every single multiplayer game and I'm minority so developers don't care about me.

Am I happy about this? Not at all. Can I do something? Nothing either. All I can do is to ignore.

>>717520834
Well there's no reason NOT to enable Secure Boot when using Windows.

>>717520514 (OP)
At this point, every PC gamer should just have a dedicated gaming PC and put all your valuable info on a cheap laptop or something.

>>717520950
It breaks legacy software.
>just change to
No. I paid for the software, I'll not swap to the subscription-based bullshit that does less.

I think EA requires Secure Boot on purpose so the industry can justify enforcing it once most people enable it.

>>717521123
Nigga it's in by default on all prebuilts since the first Ryzen

>>717521064
no it doesn't

>>717521064
What software breaks? Can you name it?

>>717521268
Wrong.

What's the issue of enabling secure boot? Donno if I have enabled or not never bother. Breaks software? Like what?

Isn't secure boot on by default both in Windows and in your bios? Why are people disabling secure boot, even if you dualboot it's easy to setup on Linux. It just makes sure what you're booting hasn't been tampered with, if you're UEFI booting it's always recommended to keep enabled

>>717521508
You can't even install windows on certain motherboards unless you turn it off and enable legacy and that's on win10. Microsoft is fucking retarded but that's neither here nor there

>>717521429
My gpu driver doesn't work with secure boot on my linux, and not having windows is worth a lot more than playing the 30th generic military fps of my lifetime

>>717521525
That's a Linux app....

>>717520514 (OP)
Reminder that secure boot has nothing to do with security, but everything to do with drm and walled garden

>>717521609
If you clear the keys through your bios it should go into setup mode without needing to disable it which you can boot whatever you want at that point and itll stay that way till you enroll keys (windows does this automatically) although it can be a little confusing on how to do get into setup mode with some motherboards

>>717521887
Not really, since Secure Boot doesn't make it so more programs can be installed. Just less.

>>717521683
Windows is definitely most shit, but why wouldn't a gpu drive pass the sec check? Like what gpu, do entities need to pay to have their program pass secure boot?

>>717521707
You boot into midnight commander, dingus.
>>717521986
>little confusing
It's impossible on many motherboards, retard. Not like it matters anyway, most people on 4chan haven't played a battleslop game since Bad Company 2 (which still has servers up). Do you get paid by the post or by the hour?

>>717522275
If I knew I'd say. It's a Nvidia card, which I heard sometimes has problems. All I know is I messed with it for a whole weekend then turned off secure boot and boom, runs like taco bell shits

Secure Boot is enabled by default on pretty much any machine built after 2015.

>>717522309
>You boot into midnight commander, dingus.
Then you aren't using Windows, so there's no issue with using Secure Boot when using Windows.

>>717522504
>>717522309
>>717521609

>>717522462
Quadro RTX 4000 to be specific. It was previously doing work as an architecture workhorse computer before I inherited it.

>>717522069
Suddenly more and more softwre will require you to run unmodified OEM install or they will not allow you to play online or serve you neefed content
https://secret.club/2021/06/28/windows11-tpms.html

>>717521048
People dont do that? Yikes

>>717522471
debunked btw

no normal person has an issue with this

>>717521048
I've got 2 redundant external hard drives with all my pirated media as well as all my personal files, photos, and videos. Internet cops have about 20 seconds to catch me before the stuff I downloaded isn't on a hard drive connected to the internet anymore.

>>717521609
>can't install windows with secure boot
>secure boot, the feature microsoft has been trying to push for decades
Being this retarded should be illegal.

>>717522309
>morons getting filtered from having to use UEFI and a GPT drive to install windows

>>717522741
Secure Boot is mandatory for Windows 11 normie edition and all AM4/AM5 mobos have it on by default. To not have it on goes against OEM spec which means they cant use Windows legally.

>>717523171
In other words they use a gay Intel CPU that crashes in Battlefield anyways LMAO

>>717520514 (OP)
Everybody already has it enabled by default, you retard.
Secure boot is a good thing. It's not a CIA plot to turn you gay. That's what kpop is for.

>>717523245 (me)
I didn't even read the OP and just assumed that you were one of those retards. Guess I'm retarded too.

>>717523245
yeah its weird people are trying to frame secure boot as a bad thing. it prevents bad drivers from starting in general. do you like having corrupt drivers bsoding your computer?

>>717522541
>schizo.club
Anon, in the real world, secure boot doesn't do anything like that. It prevents sketchy shit from sneaking into your boot process. Which is something you want to prevent.

>>717523394
Ask Nvidia owners who having nonstop driver issues on Windows 10 and 11 today.

>>717522836
>>717523147
Nobody but a shill simps for secureboot of all things, and the angle of social pressure glows in the dark. It comes stock with prebuilts, so there's quite a few people who have it on default. But what's your real interest in trying to throw shade on the people who can't, won't or don't have it running? The only skill required to run it at the most retard level is a credit card.

Not enabling it.
UGH I KNOW
I'm just not gonna enable it
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>Playing EA shit
shiggy

>>717523606
>shill
I don't even play nu-battlefield. It's been trash for a decade and this will be trash too. But whining about not being able to install windows because of secure boot is a fucking room temperature IQ argument.

>>717523606
>But what's your real interest in trying to throw shade on the people who can't, won't or don't have it running
it amuses me

>>717521683
So just sign the kernel module with your own keys nigger

>>717520834
>schizo doesn't know what this actually does
classic
>>717520950
>Well there's no reason NOT to enable Secure Boot when using Windows.
There is also no reason for you to be in any game I play.
>>717521064
>It breaks legacy software.
It doesn't even stop anything from launching. It's a BOOT integrity check for SHA256 hashes. Literally any anti-virus including stock Defender is "muh kernel level".
>>717521220
>Nigga it's in by default on all prebuilts since the first Ryzen
These people are genuinely low IQ or have a mental illness.

Why would a game care that my boot is insecure when they'll install literal rootkits on my machine in order to run?

>>717523242
>AM4/5
>Intel
you stupid mf

>>717523625
>seething on a website what other people do that upsets you
consider millions are having sex right now and use EA games too.

I bricked my Gigabyte B550M because of this shit. Apparently, enabling secure boot on this board causes it to start an endless reboot cycle that can't be fixed even with removal of motherboard's battery

>>717524076
They don't install rootkits. Secure Boot prevents them from being installed.

>>717524076
Secure boot allows a chain of trust starting from the UEFI to OS. Just another assurance lower level components haven't been tampered with.

>>717523759
Do you rage this hard about phoneposters with no actual gaming pcs at all? Do you or the other anons actually give a solitary fuck if some doofus on windows ten is exposed to risk? Hell, I guarantee some fucks have blacklotus running right now on /v/ and that you really don't give a fuck.

>>717523896
I expected you to go more for the poorfag angle and not a single racial slur. Still, don't let me get in your way.

>>717523432
Yeah thats the justification, but eventually they want your boot process to be signed with keys they trust

What a random thing for them to check for. So many people disable secure boot for reasons completely unrelated to cheating. And the cheaters can just easily spoof it so I don't get the point here.

>>717524278
Not if the driver is signed, which all of them are.

>>717520514 (OP)
these people probably had it enabled already

>>717524296
>rage
Which part of that comment was rage, mr baiter?

>>717524392
Mad about you being unable to join my lobbies? Nah. You do whatever. It's a gated community and lowlifes may not apply. Consider another pretend smug post, narcissists use defensive rage.

I will not get tricked by fancy trailer.
Try harder EA shills.

I have fully switched over to GNU/Linux and all my games work with Proton. I will not be purchasing any games that require spyware anticheat.

>>717524694
Why so mad bro? Just walk away, no one will know.

wish the steam hardware survey would check how many people had secure boot enabled, genuinely curious.
i could turn it on if i wanted but the game doesn't look good enough for me to bother.

>>717524635
That's not a rootkit.

>DICE
I don't care, they haven't made a good game since BF3.

Pretty sure it's on by default if you have even somewhat modern hardware. Like from past half decade or something

>>717525065
BF1*

>>717520514 (OP)
Has /v/ lost its influence? why are there 300k people playing Battlefield?

>>717525104
>WW1 game that players like any modern shooter
No thank you.

>>717525021
thanks for the nuanced explanation, retard. I now need to guess what the fuck you are implying.

>>717524074
>if I post a lewd anime picture I'll surely fit in
The handbook they gave you is wrong.

>>717525403
You're the one advocating for EA malware you fucking retard

>>717524673
You nitpick about description of your tone, but not at the assertation that you're a fraud who doesn't actually care whether anon is running with signed drivers. Alright I'll accept both those. Replace rage with whatever descriptor you like, disgust.

>>717525231
Rootkit is unauthorized. Secure Boot only allows authorized software.

>>717520514 (OP)
But does it stop cheaters? If the answer is yes then as a white male I have no choice but to accept this as the new norm. Brownskins have been buying more and more cheats and I'm sick of that shit.

>>717525540
Technical precision in all things. Shills, not retards. And that one troll.

Problems running on certain configurations is par for the course for PC users. And refusing to run certain shit is nothing new. The fact that these fucks are REALLY invested in that you have the new safedisc or denuvo or online activation or EAC should be treated just like the stuff in the past.

>>717525872
Even better: It makes it so cheaters have to spend $700+ to be able to bypass, making cheating whites only.

>>717525714
...unless the rootkit is signed.

>>717525872
I think it will just increase cheat costs bout 10 percent.

>>717526019
If it's signed it's not a rootkit by definition.

>>717525987
...only if you count Chinese as white like the Ivy league does. The bypasses won't require external memory access, eventually.

>>717525021
https://www.darkreading.com/cyberattacks-data-breaches/researchers-discover-microsoft-signed-rootkit-for-loading-2nd-stage-kernel-module

In general any driver that passes the WHQL/HLK tests will probably get signed and it's easy to hide a rootkit in your innocent looking driver if you know what you're doing. No normal company is going to do this because it will instantly destroy your reputation, but random state sponsored chink vidya devs don't care about that.

Anyone else just got locked out of playing?

>>717520514 (OP)
i thought everyone already did this for re-BAR (which is lol anyway and randomly plus or minus 5 FPS in any given game)

>>717521707
>app
>he calls them fucking apps
jesus christ you are embarassing.

>>717525540
>just enable secureboot goy
>protect my employer from a class action lawsuit because the jeet slaves they own can't code anti-cheat to save their lives and we NEED secureboot in order to have a prayer that out shit won't destroy PCs
Blow me, phony. Your whole act is baloney.

Is secure boot not enabled by default?

I'm fairly certain it was already on on my Asus whatever board?

>>717526071
I do signing key management, TPM key sealing and attestation myself anon. Don't try to bullshit me. Signing just means that there's a chain of verification. Signed malware absolutely exists.

>>717526220
This anon has a strong pimp hand. Hell, I fully expect some countries to require products sold in their borders to follow their rules on driver signing.

And to the midwit who is going to whine about slippery slopes, they already are using Pegasus, and that defeats signing as well.

>>717526849
it is enabled by default on newer boards. my B550 A-pro MSI board had it on by default and I had to turn that shit off.

>only people complaining about secureboot are cheaters
>mfw running bf6 inside a vm with secureboot spoofed to on

>>717526849
ASUS B650 motherboards do not come with it turned on by default. Bought two different versions of them and they both had it off.

>>717526071
Nigga wut

>>717526071
explain easy anti cheat then

>>717524037
Thanks. I'll look into that

>>717526071
Malicious actors do buy valid certificates.
Source: me, I work for a CA who makes the fucking certificates, and is best friends with one of the top pen testers in the country.

>>717526071
It's pretty common for private keys to get leaked, allowing malicious actors to sign their shit. There was a whole shitshow when Valorant's Vanguard blocked drivers signed with keys that were leaked.

>>717520514 (OP)
Only unironic poor thirdies have problem with secure boot. Literally every new mobo has it on by default.

>>717530304
>Let Microsoft dictate what you can and can't boot... or you're POOR
Nice try, William Henry Gates the Third.

>>717530504
Then you shouldn't use windows in the first place. Oh wait, you can't because you're too tech illterate

>>717523171
My AM5 board does not have it on by default. Nor does win11 require it. Only that it should support the feature. Why are you spouting lies so confidently? Oh, right, cuz /v/tards think they know hardware and software.

>>717530712
>cope
Using Fedora nigger. You should go back to obsessing over AIDS-ridden African minors.

>>717530829
>video games should cater to 1 percent linuxtroon like me!!
Nobody cares

redpill me on secureboot
if i enable it, what will happen? what does it do to my computer?

>>717520514 (OP)
im pretty sure it comes enabled by default today

>>717530304
>Literally every new mobo has it on by default.
ive built 5+ PCs with AM5 motherboards and literally NONE of them had it on by default you fucking fraud

>>717526656
What's embarrassing is completely ignoring a point someone makes to bring up some irrelevant shit like a fucking toddler.

>>717531014
>not letting Blackrock dictate what people do with their computer is forcing games to cater to Linux
You stupid mf. How about use your brain instead of rabbi-approved copes?

>>717531221
Yeah, with poorfags mobo like b650

>>717531059
When your computer turns on, it will check if whatever you're booting into, is approved by Microsoft (unless you provide your own keys). You're basically cucking yourself.

>>717531320
>he doesn't know
Blackrock is already have your data by using this site captcha

>>717520514 (OP)
Do there really exist people who obey majority, especially one imploed by a chart? Yeah, I know that mystery goo injections throughout the telemarketing gayop era were a thing, but surely people learn their lesson, and thus shillfarms cease this zero-effort faggotry. But no, here we are in [current year] ...

>>717531410
jesus christ

>install kernel level anti cheat
>doesn't stop cheating
>enables secure boot
>doesn't stop cheating
Impossible to solve. Why don't people just accept there is a reason why Valve does what it does? Putting value on trustworthiness of an account over policing users computers.
>LCD Soundsytem - I'm losing my edge
>you don't know what you really want
>you don't know what you really want

>>717520514 (OP)
Who are you quoting?

>>717531634
Not quoting anyone. I'm paraphrasing.

>>717531510
It's the illusion that matters.
>look guise we are doing our best to eliminate cheating problem
>can we have dedicated servers back? We can do our own screening
>Ummm, here is the new DLC!
It's always about control.

>>717531501
FYI if you turn off secure boot, it just means additional programs can be loaded. It doesn't turn off Microsoft approved apps.

It's like the difference between having a front door lock where only Microsoft gives out keys, or no lock at all.

>>717531510
>there is a reason why Valve does what it does
Literally all serious CS2 players are using 3rd party matchmaking with a (shitty) kernel AC due to rampant cheating at a top level. Valve's real goal is AI based AC. But nothing substantial has came from their decade of effort, yet.
VAC is legit pathetic. I remember you could completely disable it with a certain DLL injector. Cheats could go undetected for years.

>cheating?
>lmao loser, you can't cheat in this game, it is protected by SECURE BOOT
>*headshots you after making a perfect 167.352 degree turn*

>>717531410
okay so it's like that "windows has prevented this program from running", but for bios-level?

>>717520514 (OP)
Normalfags buy prebuilts that probably come with secure boot on by default.

>>717532040
Basically. The goal is to prevent booting "tampered" OSs. So an AC can know that it can trust the OS itself.
Any changes would require a trusted signature.

>>717532270
yeaaaah no. i ain't clicking that shit, anyone can fuck off with their jewish control scheme tricks

>>717532693
>>717531059
you guys already run malware signed drivers called WHQL

>>717532693
>"I'm not going to install door locks in my house because my landlord will have a key"
>landlord is still able to walk in all he wants along with anyone else

>>717532776
>>717532796
>Blackrock agents
Don't you have any Jewish baby cocks to ritually mutilate and felatiate?

>>717532014
There's like 5 different anticheats running on this game, but yeah, cheaters are always gonna worm their way through. If anything, more anticheats means more vulnerabilities since they'll have to make compromises between the layers so they play nice with each other.

>>717532796
no it's more like
>i'm going to install door locks in my house
>but only a corporation that made the lock can open it for me
fuck off

>>717533182
Same thing. If you didn't install the door locks, the corporation would still be walking in, along with hobos and muggers.

>>717532776
>>717532796
>The traditional method of performing metzitzah b'peh has the mohel place his mouth directly on the infant's genital wound to suck blood away from the cut.
And you tell ME what to do with MY computer?

>>717520514 (OP)
Seeing someone pervert a literal monument to humanity's achievements built up over thousands of years just to fucking lick a company's boots really says something about society.

>>717533293
or i could just install my own fucking lock and tell everyone else to fuck off you dumb fuck shill

>>717533486
Which you need to enable secure boot for anyway...you just would use your own keys.

>>717532997
I don't really care about vulnerabilities, like using anti-cheats to fuck up your PC. Someone dedicated enough will do it regardless (or, more likely, they'll just swindle me the old fashioned way, that's much easier to do than to be a modern hackerman).
What I do care about is that every new anti-cheat, ironically, becomes a shield for cheaters to hide behind. "Dude, I'd be banned already if I cheated". "Game is IMPOSSIBLE to cheat in, get off my ass". Maybe, maybe, less people will cheat overall, but those that persist and succeed have more and more social power handed over to them, all because
A) Devs want to hold total control over their games and how they are played
and
B) Devs cannot realistically exert said control and are shit at properly moderating their games

>>717533787
Kernel ACs block custom keys, retard.

>>717521123
>the industry

>>717533787
Nothing is stopping software from refusing MOKs.

>>717533997
If someone is using a custom key for their Secure Boot, that is the only legitimate reason not to use Windows signed keys for Secure Boot. Or if they are doing some weird shady shit with their system requiring unsigned kernel level software (which they should use their own custom Secure Boot keys anyway).

Otherwise, if someone has Secure Boot off, they're retarded. A lock that some people can access is far better than no lock at all.

>>717533897
>B) Devs cannot realistically exert said control and are shit at properly moderating their games
They absolutely could use fully server-side anti-cheat solutions and general approach, but they don't want to, because it costs their servers more performance (and hence they would need to get more servers, which means spending more money on operations instead of cost saving), and it would also influence the performance of all the actual clients playing through those servers, regardless of how good the client PCs and their networks are.

>>717534186
>A lock that some people can access is far better than no lock at all.
Considering that private keys constantly get leaked, forcing Riot to maintain their own list of vulnerable keys, I'd say it's about the same.
Ideally, I'd want to have multiple trusted providers. Since MSFT seems to give a key to just about anyone for a price. How is Red Hat not a trusted provider? Gotta beg MSFT.

>>717534756
Name something right now that can bypass secure boot then.

>>717535245
CVE-2025-7029
CVE-2025-7028
CVE-2025-7027
CVE-2025-7026

>>717535581
Only affects a few Gigabyte motherboards that have not updated their BIOS.

>>717535845
>exposes Secure Boot as a pointless charade
>no not like that

>>717520514 (OP)
You do know all computers sold at stores come with secure boot and windows 11 preinstalled and enabled, don't you?
These people literally bought a computer years ago that came with those things, never cleaned or reinstalled the windows and installed the game, if you ever in you're life used an alternative operating system, you'd know secure boot is the most garbage shit to ever exist, and no, this won't prevent a single hacker from ruining matches, since the principal platform for hacking is and always will be windows, with whatever the hell shit they implement on top of it, or how much they blame linux for being "hackers".

>>717536010
I don't own a Gigabyte motherboard. I have ASUS.

>>717520514 (OP)
>336k in an open beta
>It's not even public today, only people who played the last beta or were invited can get in until the 9th
The /v/s wrong again cope for this is going to be great

>>717520514 (OP)
>dl beta (thank god im on fiber now)
>get secure boot message
>instantly uninstall
wont bother for a shitty beta, and I dont buy games as service anyway

>>717536339
Secure Boot being a charade is universal. Just moves the trust further up the chain. American Megatrends, in this case, failed.

>>717536436
Yeah, just like last time.
Oh wait.

i went through the process of converting my drive to gpt and enabling secure boot and it wasn't difficult, the game is seemingly good enough to where i feel like my time wasn't wasted
that being said seeing people pretending to be cool with this shit (along with TPM 2.0) and smug as if anyone who doesn't enjoy having more unnecessary horseshit forced down their throat is just too stupid to figure it out or too poor for a motherboard made post 2017
the game just has a flag of secureboot=0 or secureboot=1 and if you don't have it you can't play, it doesn't do anything fundamentally required to play the thing, it isn't stopping hackers as they're already in the playtest with working mod menus
i'd bet people would be more receptive to these changes if the series didn't have a total of like 4 total flop dogshit titles before it

I was ready to be annoyed by this, but it was really easy to set up on Linux with sbctl.
The kernel-level anticheat is still a jewish trick, though.

>>717520514 (OP)
Anyone who purposefully doesn't have it enabled is either retarded, or just trying to be some edgy tool who thinks it makes them look smart.

>>717520950
I don't want it to even entertain the notion of it forcing 11 on me. I would call that a decent reason.

>>717538107
Unless you're worried about someone breaking into your house to physically meddle with your boot partition there's no reason to enable Secure Boot.

>>717520950
The reason for every shill telling you otherwise is because they want to cheat in video games. Modern cheats need to bypass some kernel level things and require secure boot to be off, that's it.

Any other reasons are either too niche to matter or fabricated in order to create a greater pushback so that cheaters can continue to cheat.

Does secure boot even do anything for cheats?

as a console player (yes I'm going to shit on you with aimassist and there's nothing you will do about it pcchuds) it's crazy to me how many tech illiterate schizoids are in the pc community and I happy you are getting filtered out of the game

>>717520514 (OP)
>nobody will enable secure boot
???
It protects you from ransomware and other shit. Why WOULDN'T you enable it, if your PC supports it? There's literally no disadvantages.

>>717535245
>Name something right now that can bypass secure boot then.
>>717535581
>cites CVE proving something that can bypass secure boot
>>717535845
>doesn't count
Imagine being this desperate to being right. Be a man and accept you didn't realize you were wrong. Fucking hell. How cringy.

my new prebuilt pc I bought last year doesn't have it turned on and I can't be bothered
would probably just break something anyway

>>717520514 (OP)
>Playing EA games in 2010+15
looool

>>717520514 (OP)
>300k windows 11 trannies have it enabled
grim future ahead

>>717521048
That's kinda what I got going but I got sloppy and have let some info onto my PC. I also enjoy the high seas and even if I don't use my PC for the acquiring part I'm still worried about how it might eventually react to dubious files.

>>717520950
>just enable it bro just do what the corporation tells you to do bro
I cannot enable secure boot on my machine without breaking it.
Oh no, anyway.

>>717546254
>I cannot enable secure boot on my machine without breaking it
>bro is still using MBR in 2025

>>717535845
Cheaters gon use Gigabyte now? Seems like a solid market.

>>717520514 (OP)
There are a lot of very vocal, very underhanded cheaters out there who HATE anything moving towards effective anti cheat, so the bitching is winning

>>717520514 (OP)
>Secure Boot
LOL
I fucking told you fags I was going to cheat and make your lives miserable. >>533848231
https://x.com/ItsHapa/status/1953515565084967379

>>717546367
I was going to prove a point but then I accidentally turned secure boot on. Might as well try the easlop now

go to any "fix secure boot" video on youtube and you'll see just how fucked the situation is with bricked systems, you faggots have sunk lower than roaches to be shilling for fucking EA in 2025

>>717539115
It stops kids with their $20 aimbot keyloggers .It doesn't do a thing about DMA cheat systems.

>>717552087
It does by preventing hardware spoofing.

I built my PC in 2022 and Secure Boot wasn't enabled by default. TPM 2.0 was though. This is on a Alder Lake MSI motherboard running in UEFI mode with Windows 10 on a GPT drive. So basically everything was in place for it but its still deactivated. Haven't bothered to even try enabling it though. I'll worry about it when I get around to updating to Windows 11 in the near future.