Never played them. Worth $15?

These games are free though

>>717529359 (OP)
if you like boomer shooters. i would play a source port of these though in the year 2025

>>717529359 (OP)
>$15
Yeah... not really...
I love them, specially Hexen but unless they made some amazing improvements I can't see this being a good deal.
Do play them if you're interested, you can get the wads on the internet and use GZ for modern features.

>>717529359 (OP)
They gave it to me for free kek

>>717529359 (OP)
I wishlisted it after I saw a screenshot of a sick ass fucking badass sword

>>717529706
in the same way that every game that isn't cracked is

>>717529864
how?
i bought the originals on steam years ago and i haven't received them

>>717530176
Isn't uncracked*

>>717529359 (OP)
>Never played them. Worth $15?
My Grandpa on my mom's side loved these fucking games. When we'd go to visit, he had a "den" that was just his computer room. He had DOOM and Redneck Rampage and Heretic and Hexen. I think he had 1 or 2 others too. He was pretty cool for a Grandpa, looking back. Anyway, his favorite was Hexen, and that's actually my favorite too. Haven't played in decades though.

Were these sprites hand drawn or pre-rendered from 3d models? If they were drawn they're truly some god tier pixel art.

>>717529359 (OP)
get the wads for free

>>717529359 (OP)
I’d recommend modern boomer shooters first, but if you’ve played everything, go for it.

>>717530252
nevermind
found it in my library already
lol

>>717529810
The games got any good mods?

>>717533438
Nowhere near as much as DOOM. Heretic has some interesting stuff.

>>717529359 (OP)
last time i installed doom 1+2 because it said it had online play and it turned out to be garbage and crashed often you are probably better off with a source port

>>717533667
>crashed
I used to have that same problem. And it occasionally still does if you menu really fucking fast. But at least it doesn't crash now when you hit the exit switch/linedef. It's fine. The wad browser is good now and you can easily play co-op and deathmatch from any wad you download.

How many good wads we looking at for heretic or hexen? Probably can't be more than a few dozen.

>>717529359 (OP)
Poopyshart

what are the chances that good sales of this game result in them sorting out the legal mess and rereleasing Heretic II?

>>717529359 (OP)
Hexen with its retarded fucking puzzle will buckbreak your mind.
Hexen 2 is even worse in that department.

>>717538583
Steam review said there's an option for hexen to reduce keyhunt sadism.

>>717529359 (OP)
Not really, download it for free from /vr/
Skip hexen if you don't want to solve gay puzzles

>>717538723
This fucking SUCKS. Zoomers should suffer like i had.

>>717529359 (OP)
Hey free game in my account.

>>717538583
Eh, the only egregious moment in hexen 2 was one of the hidden rooms in act 3 that's hidden behind a breakable wall. Every other breakable wall in the game has some sort of tell or hint that you could break it, but this one doesn't.
Outside of that it's all pretty reasonable.

>>717530963
Purely handrawn. Doom and Blood used real life models digitized and Douk and shadow Warrior used 3D computer models made into sprites. Raven took the hard path and made them purely sprite based.

>>717538383
There is no legal mess; every company that had their finger in the Heretic/Hexen pie is owned by Microsoft.

>>717540934
well what the fuck what's keeping them then?

>>717542094
Prior to today I'd have shrugged but now I'll say they'll probably do Heretic 2 and Hexen 2 next Quakecon.

>>717533326
lol, wow I just checked and yeah, me too. Based Nightdive.

Does it make Hexen less of a nightmare to navigate through?

>>717543115
they made it also they changed the maps under enhanced mode so it isnt fucking levers and shows what is missing, but keys and such, so some maps like the cathedral got some cool looking dragon coin keys.
Also heretic enhanced mode really enhances the visuals of the maps
they didn't fuck around with these two.

>>717544210

Wow, props to them.

>>717529359 (OP)
nah, but worth $5

>>717529359 (OP)
hell no

>pick up DOS versions on GOG sale for less than £3
>end up getting the collection for free
Fucking based.

>>717540786
Some of them are clearly based on 3d models.

>>717544210
>>717544332
There's also a new stage prop in Hexen that lets you swap classes mid-campaign.

And for tweaks for Heretic, they licensed and implemented most of the Wayfarer's Tome mod - I don't know what any specific differences are, but this is the baseline for the enhanced gameplay.
(I just captured the list from here:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105714-the-wayfarers-tome-a-standalone-gameplay-mod-for-heretic-update-to-beta-7a-with-wand-start-bugfix-november-2021/ )

>>717529359 (OP)
>new episodes

>>717545787
yeah, they really made this with care, pretty much on par with Quake 2 and the latest doom release.
Again, i hope someone puts HUMP over it to see how the monster changes affects that

>>717529706
>>717531057
>>717538767
free wads does NOT have the overhauled maps desu.