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Anonymous No.717532792 [Report] >>717533175 >>717533540 >>717533860 >>717534203 >>717534320 >>717536668 >>717539446 >>717539496 >>717539747 >>717540232 >>717542626 >>717543360 >>717544147 >>717544837
Are the older Pokemon gens really that much better
Anonymous No.717533171 [Report] >>717544410
Nah, I prefer the younger ones.
Anonymous No.717533175 [Report] >>717534282
>>717532792 (OP)
Sorry, wrong board! I meant to post this on >>>/vp/
Anonymous No.717533285 [Report]
play the games and form your own opinion
but sure, you just want to attwhore with your waifutard subtle post so the other chomos post the protags from pokémon

trashy faggot
Anonymous No.717533540 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
Another low effort pokecoomer thread lmao
Anonymous No.717533860 [Report] >>717533987 >>717535113 >>717537673
>>717532792 (OP)
Yes. Pokemon starts with Gen 3 and ends with 5~6.
Anonymous No.717533987 [Report] >>717534529 >>717534709
>>717533860
who dis?
Anonymous No.717534073 [Report] >>717534353
Anonymous No.717534203 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
>no lyra
best girl was forgotten
Anonymous No.717534282 [Report]
>>717533175
Why do you spam in these threads but not gacha generals, xitter/reddit screencap threads, or steamchart threads? Get your priorities straight.
Anonymous No.717534320 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
Generally yeah. The only stinker from before the quality dropoff is Gen 4, but even that introduced some good designs like garchomp and froslass.
Anonymous No.717534353 [Report]
>>717534073
damn, I have to verfiy my ID to watch this image, brb
Anonymous No.717534462 [Report] >>717534602
>not even 10 posts
>hebetroons are already posting porn
lmao
Anonymous No.717534529 [Report] >>717534709
>>717533987
I think it's Lyra.
Anonymous No.717534602 [Report]
>>717534462
its a wannabe-janny trying to get the thread deleted.
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717534709 [Report] >>717535354
Generally yes but also no. I haven't finished replaying all the games but I've played up to White 1 and comparing it to what I remember of the gens that came after they're generally better but not by as much as you'd expect.

Yeah the old games are good but it's definitely got a lot of nostalgia bias cause HGSS and Platinum definitely had a LOT of flaws. FRLG was also the faithful remake before BDSP came to be but it got a pass for whatever reason.

Only exception is Emerald. That game is genuinely fucking amazing.

>>717534529
>>717533987
That's Elaine from LGPE
Anonymous No.717535113 [Report] >>717538273
>>717533860
uhh... whoops?
Anonymous No.717535354 [Report] >>717536470
>>717534709
>HGSS and Platinum definitely had a LOT of flaws
Such as? Genuinely curious. Had you said Diamond/Pearl I would understand but both Plat and HGSS solidified Gen IV as one of the best points in the franchise in my opinion, and that’s coming from a Gen I boomer.
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717536470 [Report] >>717536737 >>717537573
>>717535354
Gen IV(and particularly HGSS) I feel rides a lot on mechanics upgrades and quality of life features rather than the actual content of the game.

And before you think "durr you're just parroting a Poketuber" I replayed these games recently so these are my own thoughts on it

For example HGSS has a HUGE problem that the original games had where the level progression fucking comes to a screeching halt after the 4th badge all for the sake of "exploration". Yes a more open region is fun but not at the expense of 3 gyms worth of content all being the same levels. The same actually happens in Kanto with you being able to do Koga/Sabrina in either order and it suffers as well but not as bad as Johto. The fact game makes you visit Cianwood before you can even fight the Olivine gym begs the question of why they didn't just force you to fight Chuck before Jasmine. Who in their right mind is gonna do the required quest of going there and then just not fighting the gym. And the fact that the Rocket Hideout is in Mahogany and the whole lake of rage thing and that you need to have beaten badges 5-7 to be able to finish the Rocket storyline also makes you wonder why they didn't make Pryce 7th by force. Go to Olivine lighthouse, go to Cianwood to get the medicine and beat Chuck, go back to Jasmine, then cross Mt Mortar to beat Pryce then do rocket hideout is such an ingrained pattern to me it's so odd it's not forced. Hell just make it so you need the HMs from the prior two badges to even cross Mt Mortar

The level scaling aside, why is the mon distribution so bad? We all know that original GSC were in the time when the devs didn't really know how they wanted to handle a follow up Pokemon game but these are remakes after they've already made gen 3 and Sinnoh. The encounter rates for Johto mons should not be as low as they are for such garbage ones as well. And may I ask why in the hell certain mons that got evos in gen IV are only able to evolve post game while (cont.)
Anonymous No.717536668 [Report] >>717540286
>>717532792 (OP)
you realize pokemon games are made for children and have little depth and strategy
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717536737 [Report] >>717537573
>>717536470
others aren't? Why did they intentionally give Yanma and Piloswine their gen IV learnsets that give them ancient power but the razor claw is locked to post game so you can't get Weavile? Fucking christ even Silver still uses a Sneasle and Magneton in his final battle instead of Weavile and Magnezone. The only Dawn stone in the game that's set and not just a random reward is literally locked behind a rock climb wall which is only after 16 badges. You can't get a Togekiss until you're at the last fight in the game. You get a Togepi egg after beating the first gym.
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717537573 [Report] >>717537798 >>717540387
>>717536737
>>717536470
For Sinnoh this is definitely more of a problem in DP but it also applies pretty well to Platinum. Yesterday someone mentioned how "gen IV shoves all the new Pokemon in your face so BW could have found a good balance instead of only making you use new mons" and that irked me so I went and did some digging.

Out of all the encounter tables for pre Elite 4 areas in Sinnoh, only 35% of the mons are Sinnoh mons. Everything else is always the same spam of Wingull and Geodude and Machop and other garbage. Platinums solution for "Fixing" this wasn't to make Sinnoh mons more available but to instead add more old gen mons. And to take it another step further, a lot of the new mons are locked to one area that you may never encounter unless you're actively looking for it. Hippopotas is in one dungeon. Gible is in one dungeon you may not know exists. Skorupi is safari zone only and only if you get lucky with it spawning. Honey Trees are all sorts of retarded when headbutt was perfectly fine.

And speaking of Sinnoh mons, so many of the "new" mons are just cross gen prevos or evos of old gen mons. Seems like it's riding more on nostalgia then actual new designs like gen 3 and 5 did.

The region itself. What the fuck were they thinking with the swamp and snow routes? Why is Mt Coronet so boring when it's the big eyesore centerpiece of the region? Why is the story so "annoying kid on the playground trying to one up you"? Weather altering monsters in gen 3 was a huge scale and it was fine. But then we get to gen IV and the next step up is creation gods? Really? And why is Team Galactic so retarded when their goals are so serious, especially Cyrus who has his own secret agenda. Team Plasma in BW did the idea much better. This was also when localizations were using ebin maymays so team Galactic just sounds like a bunch of fucking morons.

Who the fuck thought that many HMs and shit like Defog was acceptable?
Anonymous No.717537673 [Report]
>>717533860
Why is Chicken-chan molesting that Pikachu
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717537798 [Report] >>717538425
>>717537573
All of this is my own opinion of course, I'm not saying you have to agree with me and you can even find all the things I mentioned to be good things, you're welcome to do that, this is just how I feel.

Also another thing I forgot to mention about HGSS is Kanto still being a gutted mess with nothing but a gym leader boss rush
Anonymous No.717538273 [Report] >>717543773
>>717535113
???
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717538425 [Report]
>>717537798
Damn it I keep remembering things that I dislike about gen IV.

This is kind of a retread on a point I already made but the whole "haha every Sinnoh team is the same lol starter/staraptor/luxray/garchomp/lucario so quirky"bullshit isn't something to be proud of. That right there is the perfect example of how bad the mon distribution is. People don't use that cookie cutter team because everyone just happens to love it, they use it because it's the easiest team to make since everything else is balls to encounter. You're playing a new game so you want to use all new mons. Can't use Drapion cause it's great marsh only, can't use lots of the new evos unless you're playing Platinum(lol BDSP suck so much), can't use Spiritomb cause that's a load of bullshit, etc

I also have problems with FRLG being overly faithful but those were the first ever remakes so they somewhat get a pass.

Here's some Pokegirl tits for listening to me rant like a maniac.
Anonymous No.717539446 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
Put simply, yes.
Gen 1 has a clear idea of what it wanted to do, and it did a lot of things right on the first go, even if some other things were clumsy like the PC or psychic's whole deal. Pokemon were developed with a purpose in mind, with consideration to how these pokemon might find themselves in the region (i.e. some being locked to the safari zone, trades, or game corner as they are not native), and it adhered to the idea of a kid going on an adventure and some of the difficulties and detours that may come with. There was also a more grounded idea of the reality, set in modern society (at the time) where the villains were just gangsters who abused pokemon, some of them dying in the case of marowak. Legendaries were just that, rare pokemon that were thought to be legends, and you'd have to purposefully seek them out yourself. A strong vision.
Gen 2 was similar, just patched up a few things and I felt the region wasn't as well designed.
Gen 3 is when Masuda stepped in, and he brought his own brand of ideas, but he still pretty much got the core idea, so his first games were good even if the gameplay didn't evolve much. The direction changed a bit with gen 5 and 6, more linear and story driven, but it wasn't necessarily bad. XY just really needed Z.
And then we get to ORAS/gen 7, when Ohmori came in. Now the direction has changed completely from an adventure to a theme park. You're led around hallways from the nose by NPCs telling you about their various personal issues that have nothing to do with you, mostly some form of family trauma. The protag and pokemon themselves are left as an afterthought. They're just cute marketable little accessories to the characters. Consequently, the gameplay actually devolved, seemingly no longer caring about the actual experience of the gameplay and just lazily copying what came before it without any consideration as to why those things are they way they are.
As deep as my thoughts get within 2000 characters.
Anonymous No.717539496 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
Kys coomer asshole
Anonymous No.717539575 [Report] >>717539641
Give me your idea for a pokemon spinoff.
Anonymous No.717539641 [Report] >>717540197
>>717539575
Pokemon Rune Factory. RF already has light monster taming elements so it's literally right there.
Anonymous No.717539683 [Report] >>717539957
Dawn is the sexiest, followeed by Hilda, May and Rosa. They haven't made a FeMC that caught my eye in nearly the same way since.
Anonymous No.717539747 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
yeah except gen 2, that shit fucking sucks
Anonymous No.717539957 [Report] >>717540162
>>717539683
>flat child
>sexiest
Anonymous No.717540162 [Report] >>717540329 >>717541172
>>717539957
Yes. Cutest too, she's the whole package.
Anonymous No.717540197 [Report] >>717540751
>>717539641
>Available for Android and IOS
Anonymous No.717540232 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
better mazes for sure.
mechanically everything before gen 4 is automatically worse.
Anonymous No.717540286 [Report]
>>717536668
You're wrong. It has some depth but 0 strategy
Anonymous No.717540329 [Report] >>717544278
>>717540162
Anonymous No.717540387 [Report] >>717540515
>>717537573
>Platinums solution for "Fixing" this wasn't to make Sinnoh mons more available but to instead add more old gen mons.
that doesn't even make any sense, of course it did. shit like croagunk can be caught outside of the safari zone. the safari zone itself had its encounters changed. more evolution items were added like an extra shiny stone so if you wanted to run both roserade and togekiss, you could. what a bunch of retard babble
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717540515 [Report] >>717540672 >>717540706
>>717540387
And that goes back to my complaint about "Sinnoh" mons just being evos of old mons.
Anonymous No.717540649 [Report]
chicken
Anonymous No.717540672 [Report] >>717540856
>>717540515
That’s kino thoughever
Anonymous No.717540706 [Report] >>717540856
>>717540515
ok
but
early game gallade is awesome
smelly triptroon
Anonymous No.717540751 [Report]
>>717540197
pls no
I'm so tired of these shit ass mobile games
Anonymous No.717540830 [Report] >>717540913 >>717541192
Gen 4
>made the best mechanical changes, with the Physical Special split, weather no longer being permanent
>Cynthia and Garchomp being the most memorable thing in the entire series
>Dawn is perfect
>Team Galactic is the second beat evil team
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717540856 [Report] >>717541058
>>717540672
>>717540706
Like I said that's just my personal opinion.
Anonymous No.717540913 [Report] >>717540961
>>717540830
You forgot
>can catch trademons in the wild so even friendless losers can have them
Anonymous No.717540961 [Report] >>717541126
>>717540913
I forgot that was intoduced in Gen 4, yeah honestly the best mechanical changes ever happened in Gen 4
Anonymous No.717541058 [Report] >>717541192
>>717540856
here's what i think of your opinion
Anonymous No.717541126 [Report]
>>717540961
They even have a meta joke about it in the game with the NPC bitch that trades a Haunter with an everstone
Anonymous No.717541172 [Report]
>>717540162
Excellent taste. I was in love from the very first episode of D/P.
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717541192 [Report]
>>717540830
>>Cynthia and Garchomp being the most memorable thing in the entire series
After having cleared Platinum and her White Undella Town battle with severely underleveled mons by just setting up on her dead weight Spiritomb(seriously why does that thing suck so much despite being so rare) I can only find Cynthia to be the most overrated champion in the entire series.

Wallace and Lance were so much more difficult than her it's insane.

>>717541058
I may be a tripfag coomer but at least I'm not a furfag
Anonymous No.717541697 [Report] >>717542118
Early Pokemon games are sort of dated mechanically, but they do have a lot of freedom and simple gameplay which makes them easy to pickup and revisit.
Gen 5-6 have pretty polished game mechanics and quality of life, but stuff like the Game Corner, Battle Frontier, etc. starts to get phased out because they don't think it's worth developing anymore.
Sun/Moon is just hard to enjoy because the game never leaves you alone with the tutorials. They were really scared of losing kids to smartphones, Yokai Watch, and the like.

Never played the Switch games, but I will try Zygarde's game since they are changing up the gameplay.
I don't know how they get away with the Kalos girls looking like this.
ShamirAnon !RLWIFETiTs No.717542118 [Report] >>717542312 >>717543361
>>717541697
>Gen 5-6 have pretty polished game mechanics and quality of life, but stuff like the Game Corner, Battle Frontier, etc. starts to get phased out because they don't think it's worth developing anymore.
Not to defend the choices, but I believe game corners were phased out due to gambling laws. Battle Frontier in gen IV is a lot worse than Emeralds in my opinion(less facilities and they're not as fun) but it's dumb cause all the new gimmicks in later gens would have made for great facilities.

Imagine the Pike in ORAS but with battles randomly becoming rotation, triple, inverse, hoard, etc

Definitely agree with the Alola complaint, the endless cutscenes is annoying as fuck
Anonymous No.717542312 [Report]
>>717542118
>I believe game corners were phased out due to gambling laws
Yes
However in HGSS they already figured out a way to keep them, while also being more fun than just spamming fucking a because slots are shit. People only hated it because there was no way to get coins other than playing, so it became more of a tedious chore.
Cutting game corners from further games is entirely just them not wanting to bother.
Anonymous No.717542572 [Report]
Sex.
Anonymous No.717542626 [Report] >>717542812 >>717543001 >>717543023
>>717532792 (OP)
I never realized, but all of them have black or brown hair except Dawn. Also Kris but it's dubious if she even exists, since she makes very few appearances in other media and HG/SS totally ignored her.
Anonymous No.717542812 [Report]
>>717542626
Same for the bros
More ideal for a protagonist to have a more "normal" appearance I suppose when the purpose is self-insertion
Anonymous No.717543001 [Report]
>>717542626
That's part of why Dawn pops so much, she's not designed like a generic main character.
Though even if you mute her blue hair into a darker color, she's still the most girly and feminine one.
Anonymous No.717543023 [Report] >>717543173
>>717542626
Serena is blonde.
Anonymous No.717543173 [Report] >>717543294
>>717543023
oh right
wait why is serena not in the op image every other femc is
Anonymous No.717543294 [Report]
>>717543173
Because the Ashime assassinated her as a femc
Anonymous No.717543360 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
Yes. Pokemon experienced nothing but constant improvement up to Gen V. VI and onwards got shaky then declined hard.

Also, sex with Hilda.
Anonymous No.717543361 [Report]
>>717542118
>gambling laws.
This I was not fully aware of.
I always liked buying rare mons from the casino, even though it felt dubious.
Anonymous No.717543773 [Report]
>>717538273
AI generated
Anonymous No.717544147 [Report]
>>717532792 (OP)
Everything after gen 4 is shit story and character-wise. The only reason I played beyond platinum was competitive.
Anonymous No.717544278 [Report]
>>717540329
post the ass jiggling slop version
Anonymous No.717544410 [Report] >>717545267
>>717533171
How terrible and perverted
Anonymous No.717544837 [Report] >>717545180 >>717545660
>>717532792 (OP)
The series lost its soul with the gen 5 & 6 releases. All the interesting things about the setting have been explored. The sense of adventure doesn't exist anymore.
Anonymous No.717545180 [Report]
>>717544837
It lost its "soul" with Gen 3. Gen 3 was literally when the series had an identity crisis and they tried to repeat Gen 1 but with new mons.
Anonymous No.717545267 [Report] >>717546302 >>717546459 >>717547113
>>717544410
>Merunyaa
https://files.catbox.moe/mljwu8.png
Anonymous No.717545660 [Report]
>>717544837
>The series lost its soul with the gen 5 & 6 releases. All the interesting things about the setting have been explored. The sense of adventure doesn't exist anymore.
You should play Legends Arceus
As soon as they muzzled that yellow rodent again I knew the SOUL was back
Anonymous No.717546302 [Report]
>>717545267
cute
Anonymous No.717546459 [Report]
>>717545267
0/10 scat adjacent fetish. In fact even worse, since the shit doesn't fall on the ground it's mushed up against the ass.
Anonymous No.717547113 [Report]
>>717545267
Mentally retarded