Thread 717535280

/v/ unironically thinks like this.

>someone on /v/ said this
>clearly everyone on /v/ is the same person

>>717535365
Don't bully the low functioning special needs OP, hon.

i actually hate the larger game of DMC and prefer to just play bloody palace
anything other than pure gameplay is fluff and a chore

I mean literally anything added to SOTC's world would have been nice

>>717535280 (OP)
I think that's xitter bro

>>717535615
Why?

here's your sidequest, bro
https://lizard.click/

OP unironically is a faggot.

>>717535280 (OP)
>lizard
>fruit
>the top of the tower
>secret weapons on ng+
Oh yeah now thats all you need

>>717535280 (OP)
I'm so glad we are all finally realizing SotC was an actual mediocre game. Zooms don't have nostalgia for it so they can see its true colors.

>>717535280 (OP)
Open world games wouldn’t be so shit if ubislop wasn’t the template for every open world ever made since 2012

>>717535542
That's called autism

>>717536239
it is a good game, but it isn't the 10/10 masterpiece that many claim it to be.

>>717536239
Zoomers have nostalgia for brown and bloom slop, their opinions mean less than nothing to me.

>>717535280 (OP)
This would be a welcome change. Ubislop games like Rebirth need to die.

>>717536671
>brown and bloom slop
Bold of you to say this on a SotC thread.

>>717536239
>we
The time and effort put into Wander and Agro's animations alone puts it above mediocre. Now look at this gif of Ren's tits bitch.

>>717535615
You hunt the white tailed geckos for a stamina boost

>>717535280 (OP)
I just hate how the shitty horse controls

>>717536796
it's crazy how much SpongeBob took from Ren and Stimpy

>>717536239
It's actually a good game played emulated today. I don't know how people could tolerate the authentic 12fps experience on PS2. It felt like a slideshow even at a time when 30fps was widely accepted as playable.

that game is mid as all hell, and has a cargo cult fanbase, tbg.
>what if we made a game where you climb a grassy wall, and hit a glowing spot, over and over again
>oh, can I like talk to NPCs? Do dungeons? Solve environmental puzzles?
>no

>>717535280 (OP)
yes, i do enjoy the long way around
this is why i hate seeing everyone just runing like mad ahead in mmorpgs, there is very few people that enjoy the journey, most only focus on the end

People telling you SOTC is a masterpiece are the same people telling you Zelda games, Elden Ring, or Death Stranding consist of big boring open fields with nothing in them.

>SotC being a shallow, repetitive slog is actually an artistic choice
It was always garbage and only propped up retroactively but the "games are le art" movement of the 2010s.

>>717535280 (OP)
this game was okay when i ran it on emulator with it locked to 200% speed and a 400% speedtoggle for the boring ass riding and cutscenes
couldn't imagine playing this garbage on a real ps2 though

>>717537220
A good portion of them, most likely. Just be consistent and either praise all of them or shit on all of them. There's no two ways to go about this beyond just being driven by nostalgia.

>>717537220
SOTC is a masterpiece. Zelda games, Elden Ring and Death Stranding consist of big boring open fields with nothing in them :^)

>>717537220
>Zelda games, Elden Ring, or Death Stranding consist of big boring open fields with nothing in them.
sotc GODS putting them fags in their place

>>717537554
>shit on all of them
Yes, that one.

>>717537220
No you're thinking of JRPG spastics. All of those games have decent overlap with SOTC.

>>717535280 (OP)
The funny thing is that there are checklists in the form of the colossi arenas and save points

>>717537220
the difference is that SOTC doesn't pretend that the big open fields are important or that they are filled with content. they are there to feel barren and desolate.
didn't play zelda, i have no comment.
elden ring is shit because it pretends to be filled with content when most items you find exploring are butterflies and moss. it was a step down from previous souls games with a high density of good item drops. i have 5 times more hours in every other souls game than elden ring for the sheer fact that the open world lowers the replayability of it.
death stranding is similar to SOTC in that the barren landscapes are serving a purpose. death stranding is supposed to feel isolated and barren. the landscape is also the feature in that game, where traversing it is the whole point. DS doesn't need item drops and NPCs everywhere, that isn't the point of the thing.

Openworld as a concept in vidya needs to be reinvented.

It's time to choose
>map has realistic spacing between locations and is 99% empty, spend hours holding movement button trying not to fall asleep
>map is only as big as it needs to be, but it's le bethesda themepark buzzwords

>>717538579
Uh, Death Stranding does have item drops and NPCs everywhere.

>>717539028
I'm a fan of "make the world the game", which BotW does by making the search for hidden secrets the core thrust of the gameplay, and which Death Stranding does by making traversal itself a challenge that has to be approached with thought and planning. This also applies to Stalker, in a jankier sense.
I have pretty much grown to despise the Rockstar/Ubisoft/Bethesda approach of making the main character a walking tank, marking everything of interest on the map, and leaving you to kind of just walk from map marker to map marker, maybe stopping to fight very easy enemies, or pick up some junk on the way. You really do just have a chores simulator at that point.

>>717539365
what do you think about new vegas where they put walls of powerful enemies to block certain paths in the early game

>>717539828
I liked New Vegas a lot at the time, and haven't been back to it, so I dunno.

/v/ literally said elden ring was bad because there isn't a bethesda city where you get side quests

>>717535280 (OP)
One of the bigger issues nowdays is seeing everything as "content", so people ask how much content does it have regardless of how much it makes sense for pacing

>>717539942
It is a game that basically fails to improve upon the formula of Dark Souls, and feels like it only includes an open world "just because".
What you get instead of a tightly designed Metroidesque map is a lot of bloat. Including more towns and stuff at least would have made the game feel like something different.

>>717535280 (OP)
yeah, games used to be 1 and done quit deals that you'd revisit occasionally. Unironically like movies

>>717539028
Neither. I want a game with somewhat realistic scale but you don't walk it all through but rather travel in 'global map' mod like in M&B until you reach a point of interest or run into encounter then a location loads / zooms in from the map view and you play and navigate it normally. Kinda like fast travel in KCD.

I think Little Devil Inside was attempting something like it but this game is pretty much dead at this point.

Some games are worth playing to understand the intent behind their development.
Entertainment comes from the creative process as such there can be more value to an incomplete work, it gives the player the ability to imagine what the game could've been.

>>717539029
>item drops
meaningless items. it is all filler, but it doesn't really matter. the item drops are either "lost cargo" that you can deliver for a couple extra likes or some sort of resource for crafting shit. but crafting the roads actually makes a meaningful change to gameworld and items degrade so fast that it is necessary to have the option of a way to get more materials to craft new weapons/vehicles/etc. but you aren't going "man, i must explore every inch of this world to make sure i don't miss that legendary sword that i need for my build that might be tucked away in the back corner of the map!" in the same way that you must do for something like elden ring.
>npcs
you see other porters rarely and all they do is wave and maybe give you a tool or more cargo to deliver. they are meaningless background noise, the don't give quests, you don't have to talk to them, there is never any indication that you actually have to interact with them at all. technically mules and terrorists are also npcs, but they are enemies and you should have the reading comprehension to know that isn't what is being spoken about when i am talking about things meaningful to the quest/gameworld. you are still isolated when there are mules and terrorists about, you are not part of that herd.

>>717539942
>/v/ literally said
He did? The /v/ guy said this? Damn. Why didn't we stop him? After all this board had so much praise for ER, surely we could have stopped this wretched /v/. I keep hearing how he hates games that the board usually loves and some games apparently make him seethe.

>>717537220
SOTC isn't a masterpiece and all those games are in fact boring

>>717540906
nah. you take for granted how things are now, with all the 20/20 hindsight

>>717540995
and all the tech to back it up

you guys act like the fields in SotC take hours to traverse. You are literally taking maybe 4 minutes to get to the next colossus and once beating it you get teleported back to the shrine of worship.

>>717535280 (OP)
>oh i can't wait to play this video game
I think you know that /v/ doesn't.

>>717537220
>Zelda games
This one is true

>>717535365
Yea, I'm sick of this
>MUH VEEE
Scapegoat shit too

>>717540123
>feels like it only includes an open world "just because".
Games are open world to avoid having to sit at loading screens between areas. That's the most common reason, it's the simple progression of game development.

>>717539942
elden ring was worse than what came before because they opened up the world without making any meaningful changes to the rest of the formula to justify opening the world up. it was still dark souls in every way that mattered except now they had a big, empty, open world. a hub city/more friendly NPCs would not have fixed this either.

>>717541981
Does Dark Souls even have loading screens?

>>717536241
Stop blaming ubisoft for everything. Open world has always been trash. Even before 2012.

>>717542062
Only if you die, the areas are pretty much long corridors that do the loading off screen

>>717542000
checked. also OP is a huge faggot.

>>717535280 (OP)
I HATE open world games.

>>717535280 (OP)
Yes. I'm an explorerchad not an ADHDvirgin.

>>717535280 (OP)
/v/ is every opinion.
Other day i literally found an anon that thinks that Megaman X7 is good.

>>717536796
Booba

>>717535280 (OP)
This game is fucking shit. It's one of those games that is liked because it has some bit of novelty to it. The game is a easy 5/10.

>>717547080
brownest post of all time

>>717547080
Nah it's pretty good.

>>717547080
Nintexican.

>>717545840
BRUN BURN BURN BURN TO THE GROUND OOOH WAAA BURN BURN

>>717547741
AROUND AND AROUND!AROUND AND AROUND!AROUND AND AROUND!AROUND AND AROUND!AROUND AND AROUND!AROUND AND AROUND!AROUND AND AROUND!

>>717537120
my dude

>>717535748
Because video games are supposed to be fun

>>717548730
It is fun.

>>717535280 (OP)
I applauded it for being different.

>>717536239
>contrarianism

>>717548776
Yeah the parts where you fight the bosses are fun, not really the parts where you hold forward and slowly move across a huge empty field. You can call it "setting pace" or whatever but if the whole game was just those parts it wouldn't be a fun game. It would barely be a game at all.

>>717549035
I find sight seeing enjoyable and appreciating the art of the world to be its own reward. The game has amazing aesthetics beyond the fights.

>>717548708
>my dude

>>717535615
That's no the point.

>>717548708
Is that LOTRO?

>>717551376
yes