Thread 717538340

Does Halo even still sell well enough to justify its continued existence?

>Halo was originally going to be a Mac exclusive. Steve Jobs introduced the game at MacWorld 1999
>Bungie sold themselves and Halo in 2000
>Bungie release Halo 1 and Halo 2 for OG Xbox
>Max Hoberman established Xbox Live, SBMM, 1-50 ranking system, online multiplayer on consoles, online Halo state tracking on Bungie.net
>After Halo 2, Bungie now want to leave Microsoft, works up a deal where they fill 3 obligations
>Bucket 1: Halo 3
>Bucket 2: Halo Chronicles
>Bucket 3: Halo 4
>Halo Movie is scrapped, ODST is compensated (8 month development)
>Halo 4 is scrapped, Lee Wilson wants to make Reach
>Bungie leaves in 2010/2011
>MS creates 343 to create Halo content in 2008/2009/2010
>MS/343 outsource Halo Anniversary to Saber, Saber got the contract to develop Halo Anniversary because its CEO 'offered to do it for free' lol
>343 gave Halo PC's Gearbox code base, and not Halo XBox's code base, to Saber
>343 doesn't know how to use Bungie's Halo engine, only the original Bungie devs knew, Marty told 343 that nobody at Bungie would help them lol
>Frank O'Connor retcons Joe Staten's lore and mythos (Humans = Forerunners)
>Halo 4 despised by fans
>Xbox no longer has Halo carrying the console
>Xbox One announcement is a complete flop and permanently damaged the brand
>Halo MCC was marketed as a love letter for the fans, having H1/H2/H3 on one console, 1080p 60fps with all maps, but completely busted on release
>H1 MCC and H2 MCC based on Gearbox PC port codebase and not the original Xbox codebase
>Halo 5 releases, and if Halo 4 didn't kill the franchise, Halo 5 buried it
>Tom French managed to salvage Halo 5's multiplayer, H5 never got a W11 port
>Halo MCC ported to Windows 10, 343 hires Halo MODDER Sean Cooper (kornman00) to fix the broken port from Jan 2018 - Dec 2023
>Infinite and Series X marketed as a return to Xbox's origins
>Infinite is delayed, released, promised a 10 year plan and is a complete flop
>343 renamed to Halo Studios and is remaking CE in UE5

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Not like Microsoft has any other games

>>717538340 (OP)
Halo Infinite saved the Halo series

The fact that Halo Infinite still gets any updates is probably an indication that its battle passes and shop generated enough income for 343/Halo Studios to be open. If it wasn't, they'd have no problem gutting the studio in half like they did with Forza's Take 10.

>>717539753
I highly doubt it makes all that much money now but there's a small hardcore audience who will spend the money so it's just worth keeping alive for now.
Xbox will continue to make new Halo games at a slow pace because they are generally profitable.

>>717538340 (OP)
Let's see how the "Halo Studios" is doing I'm sure the new devs will be good

>>717538340 (OP)
I think for big companies, their IP are sacred cows.

>>717541349
how are these people still alive

Someone post the image that compiles all the 343 apology headlines

>>717541349
I don't think this guy is new I've been seeing this tweet ever since Infinite released

>>717541349
Someone post the one where someone asks a developer when the servers are going to be back up and he replies he doesn't know or care because of the war in Ukraine going on is more important.

>>717538656
>>Frank O'Connor retcons Joe Staten's lore and mythos (Humans = Forerunners)
This was retconned by the Halo 3 terminals. They were very clear that humans are a separate species.

>>717546353
>I wasn't aware as I was paying attention to Russia bombing a country of-
Cool bro, anyway can I get 20 on pump 4 and a pack of Marlboros? Thanks

>>717541349
People like this are genuinely revolting.

>>717538340 (OP)
john halo is the xbox mascot, until microsoft retires the brand they'll keep making games.
probably be better off just licensing the IP out to someone else though. like they did with halo wars

>>717538340 (OP)
not really, we have gears of war & fallout

>>717539753
I can confirm there are people who spend a lot of money on Halo Infinite. One of my friends I play with, has bought every single battle pass and even unique items. Some of you may say how he dares to support that shitty studio 343 Industries. Well, he has a good job and earns a lot of money, so can you blame him? Even some of you say if you don't waste money on useless videogame extra content, you're a poorfag.

>>717546571
>This was retconned by the Halo 3 terminals.
Which were written by Frank O'Connor.

>>717538656
When you think about it, it's Microsoft's fault 343 sucks nigger dick like a jew. If they seduced Bungie better, Bungie wasn't gonna complain about making the same game forever and ever and bigger and better. As well as, if Bungie was going to give it up anyway, the fact the people at Microsoft didn't headhunt a medium sized and competent team of White men...well we saw what we got.

Imagine fumbling Halo. I'm curious if Microsoft fucked over Bungie around Halo 3 and that's why they wanted out.

>>717543382
Modern society removes so many hardships of what has been the norm for millennia, we end up with people like that.
>>717546662
It's just when you're in a worldwide dark age it's so more apparent.

>>717546571
every time you people do this you fail to account for the fact that it was Frank and a small team of folks with him, who went on to 343 themselves, that did these. they literally were planting their own headcanon into the game separately of the rest of the large studio Bungie had become at the time for 3's development, and surprise, they hijacked the rest of the series afterwards

>>717538340 (OP)
There was some hype leading to Infinite's release but now you'd be hard pressed to find any Halo fan excited for the remake. Even the eceleb shills are shitting on it.

>>717550246
The worst part is seeing all these dumb fucking youtubers go "OH MY GOD THIS INFINITE UPDATE IS THE BIGGEST EVER WOW IT'S SO AWESOME GUYS" and you got, what, a new gun that isn't that great to use with a terrible design, a Falcon for BTB and gimmick stuff that is heavily unfinished still, and custom button functions for Forge. Wowie.

>>717539753
Suits are stupid though
They don't see something being profitable as being enough
It's not just about "being profitable", it's about being "profitable enough"

It's a shame MCC's achievements are so gay. Legendary isn't even fun but at least it's reasonable most of the time. LASO is just gay

>>717539753
Now let's see how much CoD sells

>>717538340 (OP)
Bump

>>717546353
>I can't do my job, because I'm too busy softly weeping over my lentil soup after reading news headlines
The absolute state of this industry

>>717549565
bungie isn't blameless, though. in addition to what >>717550115
is saying, Halo's development sucked ass from the start. Bungie has always had HUGE problems with delivering content on time and microsoft was tired of it by Halo 3, which is why they say Halo 3 was their least favorite to work on due to the suits breathing down their necks. it became even more obvious with Destiny that they couldn't into time constraints at all.

>>717546353
Imagine an American train conductor in 1937 bitching and moaning and refusing to do his job because Japan invaded China on the other side of the world

>>717538656
Not only was MCC busted on release but they tried to sweep it under the rug for years before finally fixing shit

As long as the Xbox Brand lives, Halo will live
In other words, Halo is fucked

>>717538340 (OP)
No

lol fuck this boomer slop

>>717538340 (OP)
I don't know but the MMC workshop on steam has a lot of fun mods that keeps me coming back to play every once in a while

>>717538340 (OP)
No, Microsoft has to continue pumping money into Halo to keep it alive.

>>717538340 (OP)
In a market where every FPS is small team esports-focused hero shooter shit, Halo could stand firm in being a casual sandbox arena shooter, but Microsoft doesn't see that.

Masterchief is just doomguy with a motorcross helmet because it marketted better with 12 year olds. The whole series is bad

>>717546664
If anything Doom Slayer is now their mascot

>>717559970
Probably not after flop ages.

>>717559970
Technically Xbox, Bethesda, and Actiblizz are different divisions under Microsoft

>>717538340 (OP)
Yes

I still can't believe how bad Halo Infinite flopped
>Launch game
>As shit as it was, it was much less shit than BF2042 or CoD Vanguard
>Steam Player counts stay pretty high for a while
>All they need to do is just get Forge and Firefight ready, and put out constant content updates and Halo actually has a chance again in the casual FPS audience
>Proceed to do absolutely fucking nothing with it for a year
Like what the fuck? They were given the opportunity of a lifetime on a silver platter and the 343 NIGGERS, its absolutely retarded

>>717538656
>343 renamed to Halo Studios and is remaking CE in UE5
kek this can't be real

>>717538340 (OP)
Is this real?
What the fuck did they do to Cortana or is that some other AI?

>>717564282
because it's not you fucking donut. it's UNreal.

>>717538340 (OP)
No but it would be a few years till the Activision acquisition closed so they had to fund something.

>>717538340 (OP)
>>717538983
Halo Infinite has less players than the Master Chief collection, so I'd say it's time to pull the plug and kill the online before people reverse-engineer it for these remaining games.