Thread 717556628

The title basically I don't intend to cheat or whatever I just don't want to turn on secure boot.

is there a way to play bf6 beta without secure boot, or bypass it?

And please be simple when giving a solution I don't want to do stuff for 10-20 minutes to get this game working(yes I know how to turn on secureboot and that's the easiest way but I don't want it enabled)

>>717556628 (OP)
>just don't want to turn on secure boot.
why?

YESS SARR PLEASE DO NOD BE SACKURRING DA BOOD

>>717556837
Compatability issues for example why do you want to know? Anyway it's my computer I shouldn't have to toggle uefi/system configuration to play a game

>>717556628 (OP)
Go to System Information, just search for it in the task bar

This window will pop up, look at the list on the right. If it says Secure Boot is unsupported, you can't run the game because your motherboard doesn't have the feature that it needs

>>717557248
man I have scureboot I don't want it enabled because I am using optical drives and multiple operating systems and other stuff and secureboot makes using those stuff difficult

I have secure boot I just don't want to enable it is it so hard to understand?

>>717557205
>Compatability issues for example
name some examples.
>I shouldn't have to toggle uefi/system configuration to play a game
this is like saying "i shouldnt have to adjust my power settings to get more fps" or "i shouldnt have to have hardware made in the last decade to play this game". yeah, its a shame, but its reality.

>>717557380

THIS>>717557338

>>717556628 (OP)
>I don't intend to cheat or whatever
Sure...

>>717557338
Buy a cheap laptop if you want to use loonix and keep your strong PC for actual use like games.

Those complaining either use troonix or never dealt with the absolute nigger that was Punkbuster anticheat

>>717557575
If I wanted to cheat I would have just gone to unknowncheats or any other cheat forum

>>717557635
>PB fucks up and takes a black screenshot
>retarded server bans you for it
lol

>>717557628
>>717557635

Yes because having multiple OSes and using optical drives automatically makes me a linux user.....

>>717556628 (OP)
No. The game refuses to launch and gives and error if you don't have it enabled. Same as 2042 nowadays. I also refused to change it and never will, so I've been playing on PS5 instead and the game is genuinely shit anyway.

>>717557851
Yeah I know it's garbage but it's free so why not play it while it is.

hey look, so basically i'm just not gonna enable TPM or secure boot
haha just not gonna do it. i'm sorry!!! i know i know hahaha...
ugh just not gonna use it at all... HAHAHAHAHA

>>717557635
Punkbuster was so much better than any of the kernel level cancer nowadays. There's no defending this.

>>717557910
Right you do know tpm and secure boot are 2 different things right?

>>717556837
what's with all the niggers defending this practice? are you guys all fourteen years old?
it's nobody's business whether i use secure boot or not. your shitty sloppy 2025 slop of a game has no business even looking at my bios settings.

You can smell the loonix posters itt

>>717558025
New gen gamer retards if you ask me

>>717558025
nigga do you know what secure boot does?

>>717558020
i know they're both goycattle tech, so they're not for me
sorry about that!
>>717558137
it's dangerous to grow up with an ipad

>>717557635
Remember Punkbuster banning me because my punkbuster version was too new.

>>717558175
the fact that you somehow think this question is remotely relevant to any part of this conversation is amusing to me

>>717556837
Because fuck you, that’s why

>>717557909
Why even waste your time then? It has no redeeming qualities, just go play the older Battlefield games.

>>717558175
Do you actually know how restrictive it is?

>>717558025
Its that or region banning all of china and every slavic nation including poland

Or just giving up on the matchmaking meme and let people moderate their own dedicated servers, but then they would not be able to turn on SBMM and muh player engagement would go down by 0.001% think of the short term profits

>>717558215
this retard seems to think it's spyware

>>717558242
no, explain

>>717558229
I wanna try something new I guess.
That and to hang out with the "cool" kids
Add in the fact there's barely any game that's worth to touch in the last 2-3 years.

AND YES BOREDOM I WON'T DENY THAT

its wild that half the people in this thread think that EA wanting you to change your BIOS settings is remotely reasonable

>>717557910
Based beyond belief

>>717558439
indeed.
I guess humanity does deserve 1984 if these people exist

>PS3 graphics
>Named soldiers
>Less maps than BF4 (2013 PS3 game)
>Less weapons than BF4
>Maps are small as shit
>No recoil
>Weapons don't sound like real weapons
>Soldiers move like crazy even tho they have like 100 kg of gear on them
>No server browser
>Aim assist
>Battlepass
>Bots in servers
>Female soldiers
>No artillery
>Worse destruction than BFBC2 (2010 PS3 game)

>>717558439
if you grow up with an ipad you think it's normal that steve jobs and his imitators dictate every aspect of your digital life
>oh, i need an app to do this and this? surely, i will get it from the app store, the most trusted place for all my computing needs!
>there's an app for that! hahaha!!!
what a vile human being, that nigger was locking down computers back in 1984

>>717558439
There are a shitload of indian shills for this game right now. Anyone talking about it being "back" or a "return to form" is a shill. EA is desperate for this gane to succeed.

No linux users allowed. go away.

i shant

>>717558279

>Can't choose boot options
>No multi OS
>Can't use your optical drives
>Can't use custom firmware

I can list more

>>717558620
I’m getting the same vibes as the 2042 demo where everyone was hyped just for it to practically kill the franchise

>>717558640
Try hackintosh but okay

>>717558714
that's 100 percent the sentiment I've been getting too
this is the game that kills the series for sure

>all this shitflinging about secure boot when the real evil is the rootkit anticheat
all according to keikaku i guess

>>717558839
OP here it's free I don't care if it's bad.
And if it is trash at least I can laugh at it.

>>717558696
>Can't use your optical drives
I'm on Windows 11 and I can definitely use my optical drives, why are you lying?

>No multi OS
Oh. it's a loonix user, nothing of value was lost then. too bad

>>717558937
Have you ever tried using tails os from a dvd?
and no not linux jackass hackingtosh.

Something your stupid ass probably don't understand

>>717558696
>>No multi OS
Secure boot works fine in Linux, just use sbctl.
On the other hand, the game is "mid", as the kids say.

>>717559067
the anticheat will obviously block your custom keys
come on now

>>717556628 (OP)
No cheater fag, kys

>>717559139
>the game totally has no cheaters anymore
retard

>>717559067
GL doing that with a hackingtosh or a live disc OS

>>717559129
I'm posting from Linux right now, the anticheat didn't give a shit about my MOK.

>>717558025
Bitch, you´re using Windows 10 or 11 anyways. You have telemetry up your ass peeking out your mouth.

>Muh multiboot
>Muh DVD burner

Are you running your second OS off of a CD?
Can't you just add the bootloader to the UEFI white list?

>>717559018

Bro, you can't come in here and complain of Windows when running a Hackintosh, considering the hoops you need to use it. Just be a good consoomer and get a real mac.

>doesnt enable cool shit liek secure boot in his bios

lol, lmao even

Chinks are already hacking in the beta, so this is all pointless.
Just another datamining attempt by EA.

>>717559210
that's great because riot games already blocks you if you have a MOK installed
EA is gonna catch up in 6 months or so after some script kiddie realizes he can enroll custom keys to load his epic hax

>>717559018
>hackingtosh
Then why the fuck are you complaining? You very well know what you were getting into and you're just larping like you know shit when you obvisouly don't. Let me guess, it's your first build because pewdiepie told you how cool it was. fucking kids, man.

>>717556628 (OP)
Yes
Disable support (not secureboot itself, but bios support) and it thinks its on
Or just dl the crack
It skips it as well

>>717559345
Fucking kek. All that bullshit for nothing

So what happens when you give EA access to everything and it doesn't stop the hackers?

>>717559018
what the hell are you doing on tails that often
be honest

>>717559189
not no but way less

>>717559656
Wow you ask a guy who uses tails for privacy/anonymity

and expect an answer are you retarded?

>>717559345
I genuinely thought this was just BF4 KEK

>>717560093
That is intended thoughbeit

>>717559345
I haven't had a single match all day that didn't have multiple hackers in it. Just did one that had some guy go 70-0 and he was insta headshotting everyone at full sprint the entire time.

>>717559345
>forcing everyone to do a humiliation ritual that the chinks have already sidestepped anyway
Lol
Lmao even

>>717557628
>just buy another computer saar
the absolute state of the pajeet shills EA hired

The number of you not encrypting your disks is really bizarre to me.
>inb4 you don't actually
Fuck off if you know enough to comment on that you know that the people I'm talking about don't have that capability

The amount of loonix seethe is glorious. Soon more and more games will make it a requirement. Hope you didn't buy a deck. lol

>>717560771
So what is the point if people are hacking anyway?

>>717560668
>secure boot
>encrypting your disks
???

>>717560847
90% of cheating happens on Linux. Closing that route will remove most of it, but not the remaining 10%. You will never be able to stop cheating completely, but by removing Linux from the picture you make that gap smaller.

Why play this over Delta Force?
I thought it would be much better, especially with that price tag.

>>717561086
I can lie and make up numbers too.

I'll just wait for them to walk back this faggotry in a year or so

Only good cattle will defend this slop.

my BIOS doesnt even fucking have a windows configuration option and im reading I need a flash drive to update it??
I dont have a flash drive asshole I have a stupid fucking video game machine that play video games or whatever fuck you

>>717556628 (OP)
I will under absolutely NO CIRCUMSTANCES configure my fucking bios just to play a game. I downloaded this shit not know the secure boot nonsense (I dont lurk as much at my boomer age) so IMMEDIATELY uninstalled it. And quite honestly, fuck anyone who thinks this is acceptable. I have no doubt this will hurt sales to some extent. I know I’m not the only one by far.

by the time any of us gets this shit working the open beta is gonna be over so fuck it what's the point

>>717556628 (OP)
the game looks so fucking boring. just another nu-battlefield game, dumbed down coddified garbage which is all the series has been ever since bad company 2. unironically 2042 played the most similar to the origianal pre-enshittification battlefield games, battlefield 1942 and battlefield 2, and the nu-fans absolutely hated it so now the series is back to braindead chokepoint spam. these games are even dumber and more meaningless than cod

>>717562186
>I have no doubt this will hurt sales to some extent.

>>717562370
>unironically 2042 played the most similar to the origianal pre-enshittification battlefield games

where the fuck are all you retards coming from defending 2042? i like it but i don't fucking defend it because i know its deeply, critically flawed. it does NOT play like old battlefield and its mostly chokepoint spam - only the chokepoint is a giant fucking field you have to cross with a million snipers, 2 tanks, and niggers in helicopters picking you off when you try to advance

Jesus Christ alot of you retarded niggers need to well your pc and get a console.
PC gamers IQ have plummeted in the last 5 years.

Jesus Christ alot of you retarded niggers need to sell your pc and get a console.
PC gamers IQ have plummeted in the last 5 years.

>>717562739
rich coming from a goyfield enthusiast

>>717559345
I one hundred percent support the bugmen mission on fucking with EA

>>717562739
lol

>>717562828
>>717562881
I made a typo. Sue me. Stupid 4chan.

>I won't do it because just don't like it when they tell me what to do
I wonder what amount of fuckery the world has experienced in the last 5 years just because of this kind of thinking

>>717562670
>>717562739

I lol´d out loud when I read these

>>717562934
I won't enable secure boot and I won't get vaxed plus you're gay and brown

>>717558137
>New gen gamer retards
Unironically a lot of them are console faggots who switched over somewhat recently so essentially turning their PC into a locked down ecosystem where they can't do shit doesn't bother them

>>717558242
Even something as simple as having your dumbass niggerfaggot motherboard vendor having a fucked up BIOS version without you knowing it is enough to mess your shit up if you try to enable it

>>717556628 (OP)
not you, nope

>>717562739
buying a playstation is cheaper than risking bricking my motherboard so maybe i will

>>717559830
check him harddrive sarrs

One thing I cant get over is how visually cluttered and blurry it looks regardless of what AA settings you use.
Why do modern devs hate visual clarity.

>>717563264
Actually insane that this is true lmao

this game will be successful anyway sadly since the codfags are going to migrate to this game

>>717563264
i've been gaming on a shit prebuilt for the last 5 years and have never ran into bricking anything. console tards are this desperate?

>>717563934
fat chance, cod fags play cod

>>717562739
>>717562881
console bros...

>>717556837
Because he's a retard.

>>717556628 (OP)
No. Enable it or don't play the beta.

Kill yourself if you're too retarded to go into the UEFI and enable two options.

>console fags killed COD
>console fags killled killing floor
>console fags killed stalker

its just tiring at this point.

>>717558696
>>Can't choose boot options
The fuck are you doing if you're using mutliple OS's? Windows or Linux, pick one. MS goes out of its way WITHOUT SecureBoot to fuck with your Linux system.

Nut up or shut the fuck up on that.

>>717556837
There are weird edge cases with certain movie that u feel bad for. Imagine any other piece of hardware where it just isn't compatible because of some dumb random reason. I think they've crossed a line here for anticheat.

>>717564251
>complaining about complaints
nigger

>>717559345
So this... is the power... of no server hosting...

WOAH.

>>717559345
This is every multiplayer shooter beta ever. They want cheaters in so they can analyze their hacks and gay porn.

>>717556628 (OP)
I don't get why they would ask for it, it does fuck all against hacking. I guess they just want to check some Windows API that reports back that the system is 100% secure or something like that.

>>717559345
What's the justification for kernel level malware now?

>>717564746
There's no justification, it'll still have more hackers than CS2, which has 100x the concurrent players at any given time and uses one of the least invasive anti cheats out there.

>>717564887
>it'll still have more hackers than CS2
CS2 is free, come on

>>717559345
Maybe if the queers over at DICE brought back server browsers and server hosting we could avoid this by just letting admins deal with it and escalate to DICE to permaban. Fuck matchmaking. Fuck DICE.

>>717564917
That makes it even worse.

>>717558696
>Can't choose boot options
Wrong
>No multi OS
Wrong
>Can't use your optical drives
Wrong, where the fuck did you even get this idea?
>Can't use custom firmware
What custom firmware are you running? Go ahead, list it. Because secure boot only affects UEFI firmware, go ahead and please name this custom UEFI firmware you're using that will totally exist when we search it

>>717559506

>Disable support (not secureboot itself, but bios support) and it thinks its on

if you're talking about tpm

I have that enabled and had it enabled before this thread so what do you mean?

>Or just dl the crack

There's cracked version of battlefield 6 open beta? or a crack of it?

The hell are you talking about?

and if that's true mind providing a link please?

>>717563197
All modern motherboards, and "modern" being real fucking loose, checksum BIOS before and after install before leaving the flasher, you don't have magically fucked up BIOS. Find a new excuse

>>717564964
So in a nutshell cs2 has better security and less invasive anti cheat and what not than BF6 for free?

>>717557248
>If it says Secure Boot is unsupported, you can't run the game because your motherboard doesn't have the feature that it needs
Not necessarily, some poorly designed motherboard (Hello Gigabyte) don't nest the Secure Boot option under CSM mode deactivation, meaning you can enable secure boot in your BIOS then go to Windows and it says it's still off because CSM is still enabled and overrides the secure boot enable setting

anyone figure out how to unlink an old email from EA account?

>>717564576
>I don't get why they would ask for it
It kills those PCIe based DMA hardware aimbots, since a vital part of their function is boot time firmware related. No key signing, no loading, device doesn't work. Though they're extremely, ridiculously rare to the point it wasn't really worth it

>>717560243
>I haven't had a single match all day that didn't have multiple hackers in it
How convenient to the /v/ narrative, definitely happened

>>717560243
Huh, my group's been playing all day and we haven't seen hide nor hair of anyone hacking.

Weird that.

>>717565164
By the looks of it, yes. CS2 only uses VAC, which has no kernel access + VAC Live, which is their server side AI thing.

okay so secure boot has been explained to me in another thread
but what's tpm

>>717568416
It's a chip that stores the secure boot keys, signatures, etc so they are separate from the UEFI, so malware that attempts to infect the UEFI can't just change the keys to hide itself. If your motherboard is older it might have fTPM, which is firmware based rather than a chip, as a sort of emulator for it. Both work just fine for secure boot

>>717568539
oh all right. my motherboard is kind of new. it's some AM5 asrock board steel legend thing and I like it because the computer i had previously is from 2012.

>>717568607
If it's an AM5 board you absolutely have a dedicated TPM 2.0 chip, I don't think fTPM exists at all even on the cheapest of AM5 boards

Was hacking really such a big issue in Battlefield? I stopped playing with BF1 and never noticed hackers or aimbotters to a degree where it would ruin my fun.

The matches being 64v64 make it much less noticable when one guy is hacking.

>>717568887
>Was hacking really such a big issue in Battlefield?
Yes. BFV and 2042 were in absolutely dire straits in the end

>>717558181
secure boot is to prevent your computer from running maliciously modified or otherwise dangerous software at runtime, retard
but whatever, i'm sure you don't wear your seatbelt either, since it's goycattle tech

out of curiosity, do you still run windows 7?

>>717568965
maybe because those bf games sucked and the last good BF game was BF1?

If you think this game is so shitty that you won't turn on secure boot to play it, why are you trying to play it to begin with? Just don't play it. Simple as. There are plenty of games that don't require secure boot. I personally have never and will never play a game that requires Origin to be installed on my computer.

>>717568887
there's already cheaters in bf6 beta, but good thing other people gave to fuck with their bios to play a low-tier battlefield game.

>>717569079
>I googled what secure boot is so now I'm smarter than you

>>717568887
BF1, BF5, and 2042 after a year or two all turned into the most hacker infested nightmares imaginable. 5 especially became truly unplayable, every single match had a dozen Chinese aimbotters just spawn killing everyone over and over. It is not hyperbole either, I mean it when I say it was every single match.

>>717569487
And all of those are completely dead now too because of it. Albeit, 2042 is mostly dead because they added this secure boot shit to it months ago and none of the playerbase was willing to do it.

>>717561086
Not true. 90% of all cheating happens in your mom’s bed.

>>717569281
>>I googled what secure boot is so now I'm smarter than you
i am smarter than you, but that's beside the point. the point is that people view secure boot as some evil shit or whatever, when it's a safety feature. you are ignorant

>>717569727
I'm honestly surprised you know how to operate a computer based on your posts

Reminder that the screeching about secure boot is a distraction from the kernel anticheat

anyone here on xbox? can I play without xbox live gold?

WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF KERNEL LEVEL ANTI-CHEAT IF IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY STOP CHEATERS?

>>717568887
BF3-4 was the point where hacking in online games started to surge due to cheating becoming big business, cheat providers selling cheat suites that constantly updated to avoid being detected.
Previously, anti-cheat was a game of whack-a-mole. Now it's an arms race.

>>717569079
>secure boot is to prevent your computer from running maliciously modified or otherwise dangerous software at runtime
Then why does it allow BF's Javelin anticheat to run?

>>717570487
they never stop cheaters, yes even valorant the game where riot cocksuckers like to parrot that there are no cheaters in it because of the kernel level anticheat there are still cheaters you just cant verify because they don't have a demo/replay system and this is by design

>>717570487
spy on you and rootkit your... I mean this pc

Those complaining about it being "too much like COD"... The game having a little hint of MW19 is a good thing, they've struck a really good balance of sprinkling some of that into the mix to attract some new players. If you're complaining about the small COD influence then IMO you don't have the best interests of the franchise at heart, it was a dying franchise, it needed a new and fresh take and we got it. It still feels like Battlefield, it doesn't feel like COD.

what's wrong with secure boot again?
apparently mine has been "on" or whatever since i built this pc

>>717571036
Maybe you should go back.

>>717571056
When do things named the way they are actually do the things they are named to do?

>>717571135
what does that even mean nigger

>>717558696
>no multi os
Hahahahah trannix users bfto

>>717556628 (OP)
I had to enable this shit and uninstall Dameon Tools just to play a fucking beta. Why is this game such a damn pain in the ass?

>>717571056
People learning about big bad words and how it can be abused yet still use a CPU newer than 2008 that has the management engine in

>>717571224
>Dameon Tools
What year is it?

Why is there no destruction in this game? No levelution, no 2nd phase for maps, cant even bring down a building. What are they thinking

>>717571190
it is named SECURE boot but does it KEEP you SECURE as the name suggests?

If we look at history we can see it doesn't *cough*AMD PSP *cough*Intel ME*cough*

>>717571314
okay, and? that literally doesn't answer anything of what I asked its just schizobabble to me

>>717571343
AMD PSP and Intel ME are literally government mandated binary blobs so they hack into your computer this was mandated via the patriot act if you still don't get it then you're a retard

>>717571289
I keep it around to install older games

>>717558714
>revisionism
That's not what happened. People picked up how utterly broken 2048 was instantly, to the point devs deflected by clsiming that beta was of over 9 month old build (which wasn't the case). Even content creators talked shit about it immediately, aside from the most hardened shills. Bf6 has mostly minor nitpicks and criticisms, like then weapons available for all classes and maps being too small. (Also, gepard shooting bursts of six??)

>>717564263
>they've crossed a line
Insert proof-of-life rectal sensor (hereafter "THE DONGLE") and drink a verification can to proceed
It's for your SAFETY

>No server browser
>SBMM
>EOMM
It's over. There's a line that i hoped Dice had not crossed over a second time since 2042. And what's crazy is that their shitty downgraded Portal system never at any point in it's lifespan got an option for high server tickrates to my understanding of it. So they downgraded even on the netcode (no options to rent better servers and their own servers are shit). Yet they pretended that it was to our benefit when their own matched maked instanced 'servers' aren't capable of something like 120hz or 144hz. Including a lot more options for admins on that note.

saaar do not enable

>>717563264
My 13 year old nephew managed to figure out secure boot on his own, and nothing got bricked. Seems like you just have a skill issue of grear magnitude.

>>717557205
>>717558025
just don't play the game then lol

>>717571685
All this stuff is redditors not reading the instructions and changing to UEFI without changing their OS disk to GPT

>>717565324
Call ea customer support and explain your situation slowly and clearly to the saar on the other end. No, I'm not kidding.

>>717565404
>claiming the game is DOA, bragging how they won't even enable secure boot
>also claiming that there are tons of hackers in every match they play
The duality of /v/

oooh i see. its just boomers bitching about secure boot. of course. lmao

>>717557928
retard

>>717558620
Tiresome how they’re using the same tactics when the shilled starfield. At least when it comes to discussing this grievous invasion of privacy called secure boot they’re dumbfounded.

>>717571036
>running while crouched
>dynamic body when prone
>sliding that will fuck your accuracy while performed
>detail to guns in graphics and animations
>dragging while healing teammates
All of these made the game feel more dynamic, and I have no clue ehy someone would see these as a bad thing.

>used to play Battlefield with a friend
>12 hour plush weekend game sessions
>life happens
>now he has a job and a family and we can’t play that much of ever
>he still loves Battlefield
>I’ve outgrown it
>I’m just really shit at Battlefield. I do better at Call of Duty, Team Fortress 2 and Overwatch
>friend has zero interest in playing any other games I recommend and just wants to play Battlefield
Should I try to get back into this series?

>>717571460
Peak schizo

>>717571690
people will misinterpret this as a bootlicker statement but this is the actual answer
you don't need to play bf6 and it isn't a human right
don't like what the corpo is doing? don't support it and don't play the game
simple as

>>717571056
Nothing. It just stops unauthorized software from being loaded at boot.
Anyone with a PC capable of running BF6 should already have compatible hardware, but there's a good number of people who are still using old installations of Windows that are formatted in MBR instead of GPT. MBR isn't compatible with secure boot so you have to convert the drive, which is more than most people want to deal with just to play a game.
It's not very difficult to do the conversion, but tinkering with your C drive is always a bit nerve wracking.

>>717572350
I mean the beta is free so give it a shot.
Main complaint I have right now is that all the maps in the beta are way too small for 48-64 players.

>>717572876
This. They better have bigger maps for releasd, but since operation firestorm is returning, I'm hopeful.

We live in a timeline when
>battlefield 6 will flop because it asks you to change your bios settings
>gta 6 will flop because it asks you to enter your real life ID

>>717572509
i always love it when my machine stops me from taking Unauthorized Actions

>>717572350
In a few years time you'll regret not playing vidya with your mate when you had the chance to no matter how you you are/how shit the game is.

>>717572367
niggercattle

>>717572509
I think the time that I actually migrated to Windows 10 and doing all this newer stuff was when I wanted to play AoE4.

>>717556628 (OP)
Brown hands posted this.

>>717556837
>why don't you want to eat the poop, I'm eating the poop, lots of people are eating the poop, surely you have some nefarious reason NOT to be eating the poop

>>717573745
what exactly do you as a user need to be running at the kernel level

>>717574298
it's none of your business or anyone's for that matter

>>717574502
so nothing lmao

No, my pc doesn't even have secure boot, i need some tpm module that they don't even sell anymore

>>717570307
good to see EA's discord bots have made it to 4chan to defend the ridiculous idea of giving a company with a history of security issues kernel level access to your computer

>>717574543
TPM 2.0 came out in April 2014. Time for an upgrade, anon.

>>717574550
if you had any kind of opsec you wouldn't be running windows at all or playing video games on a machine you are keeping your sensitive data on but you don't actually do any of that you're just retarded and whining about shit you know nothing about

>>717574525
You're a nobody mind showing your id card then?Practice what you preach.
I bet you're gonna refuse to do it, but you will have no objections giving it to rockstar games

>>717574750
not even close to the same shit dumbfuck

>>717574698
That's fallacious. His PC being insecure does not warrant giving a company with a history of security issues kernel level access to his PC.

>>717574794
sheep go baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>717574837
he doesn't give a shit about security its literally a non issue to him then hes just parroting shit he doesn't understand

>>717574843
nice non argument lmao

>>717558501
why are you talking about bf2042, the worst bf game?

>>717557928
>than any of the kernel level cancer nowadays
God, the people crying about kernel ACs never fail to show off how retarded and reactionary they are.

>>717574885
You're doing exactly the same - parroting shit you don't understand, and even worse, you're supporting a trend of giving corporations totally unnecessary and undeniably dangerous levels of access to your device.
You do remember how shit EA's code is right? And you trust them to have deep access to your computer?

>>717574926
All of these apply to BF6 tho

>>717574976
i wouldn't know. i can't even play. i just wish we had bf5 back. tired of modern shooters.

>you need to turn on Secureboot for the game to tell you
>you need to update your GPU drivers to current fore the game to tell you
>you need an EA account
im good thanks

>>717562643
>where the fuck are all you retards coming from defending 2042?
It's the older game now. That's all it takes for most retards on /v/.

>>717573582
Kino

>>717570487
You know how locking your front door doesn't actually stop anybody who really wants to get in but you do it anyway to make it harder for them and drive off the most opportunistic of criminals or crazy dudes like the serial killer that thought it being unlocked was an invitation? It's kinda like that.

>>717561198
Vehicle physics are so much nicer, and the enviro destruction is great.

>>717575078
You forgot
>need to wait to compile shaders to complete on launch
>go to graphics options to turn off bullshit settings
>need to restart the game to confirm that you actually want bullshit disabled
>finally ready to play the game, start matchmaking and get an error connecting to EA servers
>search error code, hundreds of results from 5-15 years ago with no solutions, it's just part of the battlefield experience

>>717556628 (OP)
>ITS FOR YOUR SAFETY CHUD!
>w-well no actually it doesnt stop cheaters
>JUST ENABLE IT

>>717575341
in this case you're giving a copy of your keys to a corporation. they might install cameras into your house. they might steal from you. they might come into your house and destroy your furniture so you upgrade your subscription.

>>717558696
>Can't choose boot options
Yes you can. If your mobo disables booting from USB or CD/DVD when enabling SecureBoot, then it is an idiot implementation of SecureBoot that is out-of-spec.

>No multi OS
Multi OS works fine, but all of them will need bootloaders that are properly signed for use with SecureBoot. And if you want ease of use to switch between OSes you'll need to chain a bootloader that allows you to set-up a proper selection menu at boot - i.e. not use the default Windows one as the root boot loader.

>Can't use your optical drives
Yes you can. Both regularly (of course you fucking can - SecureBoot has nothing to do with that) *and* as a boot device.
The CD/DVD medium you're booting from will need a bootloader that is properly signed for use with SecureBoot.

>Can't use custom firmware
Custom firmware as in a custom bootloader?
You totally can. If you cannot get it signed by Microsoft, whose root SecureBoot key is one of the few present by default in all UEFI key storages, then you can sign it yourself and register your custom boot key with your mobo's UEFI. If your mobo doesn't support that, then - again - it is using an idiot implementation of SecureBoot that is out-of-spec.

>>717559018
Not the fault of SecureBoot.
But the fault of whoever prepared that bootable optical medium.

Its bootloader needs to be cryptographically signed to be usable with Secureboot enabled. Microsoft offers a signing service for it which allows you to get that done in very non-obstructive and easy way - but many retard OSS projects are principally against using anything provided by Microsoft so they still refuse to use it and instruct their end-users to disable SecureBoot instead.

>Already had secure boot on by default
>Look it up
>Nobody, even some linuxfags, had any good reasons for disabling it except that it probably didn't matter if you did
>Took a friend two minutes to enable it on his PC when he wanted to play
This seems like such a trivial thing to get upset over and waste time arguing about.

>>717575749
>but many retard OSS projects are principally against using anything provided by Microsoft
pretty sensible considering what they've done in the past, no?

>>717575749
>just ask microsoft to sign your OS
do you really wonder why most distributions just don't do that?
some do have "secure boot" support like fedora and ubuntu, some take a moral stand and don't go through with it, some distributions are too small to even consider it.

>>717575558
>in this case you're giving a copy of your keys to a corporation
That's not really a better analogy. I was referring to cheaters accessing the game while you referring to installing the AC on your computer. We're talking about different things. If you want to cover the whole thing then it's like getting a ring camera and trusting they won't use it to spy on you.

>>717575985
this secureboot thing and anti cheat go hand in hand.
>trusting they won't use it to spy on you.
the entire purpose of the kernel anti cheat is to spy on you, they need to check everything that's running on your pc, and everything you do. that's what these anti cheats do, even the ones running at regular root permission.

>>717559345
Yeah but they can only do it for a couple of games before they get caught. The way modern anti cheat works is that builds a "Case" against you then when it has enough evidence then you get hit with the ban. There is going to be a mountain of ass pain when people get comfortable cheating in the beta and get the hammer on launch.

>>717576109
>this secureboot thing and anti cheat go hand in hand
I don't get why you're bringing up secureboot. Anon was asking what the point is if people can still cheat. My post was answering that and yours wasn't.
>the entire purpose of the kernel anti cheat is to spy on you
I'm not saying you should trust them not to spy on you.

>>717568539
>>717568643
Don't know where you're getting your info from but you're wrong on just about every point you make.

fTPM is a brand name. Specifically it's the brand name for AMD's software-based Trusted Platform Module that is integrated into the mobo firmware and which uses the isolated AMD Security Processor embedded on-die in AMD CPUs to provide an isolated trusted execution environment. It's every bit as hardware-isolated as a TPM built as a separate hardware-dongle.

Intel's equivalent is Intel PTT which runs inside the Intel Management Engine (IME) which also uses a trusted execution environment provided on-die in Intel CPUs.

fTPM is still present for AM5 motherboards as well. In fact, most AM4 and AM5 motherboards don't even have physical plug-points for TPM hardware-dongles anymore. They require you to rely on fTPM.

>>717576268
thank you anon for letting us know all about these exciting technologies that serve to enhance my gameplay experience
very organic post

>>717556628 (OP)
ITS TIME TO UPGRADE GRANDPA

>>717569079
Secureboot doesn't protect against anything other than safeguarding the bootloader. After that the OS itself becomes responsible for monitoring for malicious or unwanted software.
It's meant specifically to protect against malware that can infect the bootloader and manipulate the lowest levels of the operating system to effectively hide itself and disable the detections the OS itself would try to implement, because effectively the OS would be 'building on a lie' provided by the manipulated bootloader in such scenarios.

>>717576192
wasn't the OP's question on how to play bf6 beta without enabling secureboot or bypass the secureboot requirement?

>>717576517
you probably can't bypass the secureboot requirement, but you can sign your own OS to use secureboot; until they ban you for it like riot anyways.

>>717576517
...Nigga, I was replying to another anon...

>>717576584
sorry my bad I deserved that response then

>>717570487
Its purpose is to lessen the number of cheaters by removing crime of opportunity from the equation.
That said - there are other, better, ways to achieve the same goal. And kernel anti-cheats are too heavy-handed a solution that bring along unacceptable additional risk for end-user systems as well. Poorly maintained anti-cheat solutions can have bugs that lead to kernel memory corruption and system crashes ('blue screen of death' / BSOD) or contain security vulnerabilities that are exploitable by user-mode malware to gain kernel access.
Both are not simply theoretical and have actively occured in the past, multiple times over.

>>717571523
the funny thing is that i couldn't give any shits about wins and losses in battlefield games
the moment to moment gameplay is all that really mattered.

>>717575834
>>717575898
Microsoft literally had to create that signing service under legal pressure of the whole Secureboot thing being allowed to exist in the EU as otherwise it would have opened them up to litigation under anti-competition laws.
They can't ever stop offering it, or start fucking with it, or the EU will raise hell.

It's one of the few cases where you should, rationally, be totally fine to rely on it. A large chunk of OSS consists of small passion projects though - which tend to be zealous and irrational about these things.

>>717576979
>Microsoft literally had to create that signing service under legal pressure
i hope you understand that makes it worse

>>717557338
Buy a console

>>717576979
Can you please explain how is it anti competitive?I understand that you probably don't think it is, but why would the EU see it as anti competitive?

>>717576648
>That said - there are other, better, ways to achieve the same goal.
Like what? The only game I can think of that doesn't use kernel AC is CS and I've seen players wish they did and tons of players, more players than half the games on Steam's top ten most played get, use a third party client that has one. I'd be surprised if Valve didn't have better programmers and a much more lax budget than other devs. If they can't come up with good solutions then I find it hard to believe the other, better, ways are actually practical and reasonable to implement at the moment.

>>717577214
>how can a thing designed specifically to prevent anything that isn't signed by a big enough corpo to boot on your hardware is anti competitive
I dunno anon, probably just eussr shenanigans

>>717577743
Server browser and death of esport.

>>717577758
so basically communism? one more reason europe is a shithole

>>717575807
It increases input lag by 3ms in every game.

>>717577743
kernel AC is just making it a bit harder to cheat and pushing people towards virtual machines - undectable.
you can never stop cheating.

>>717578149
>you can never stop cheating.
So? You can make it harder like you said. I don't get why people think it's all or nothing.

>>717578249
the reason they use kernel AC is not to make it harder on cheaters, but because it's cheaper for them.
instead of having the anti cheat be in their servers, it's your pc doing all the work.
but that doesn't work, because VMs skirt the kernel AC anyways. so yes, it's a retarded solution. the only proper solution is for them to monitor their fucking game instead of your pc.

>>717578320
>instead of having the anti cheat be in their servers
>the only proper solution is for them to monitor their fucking game
Pretty sure Valve does this. Again, ask a CS player how effective it is.
>but that doesn't work, because VMs skirt the kernel AC anyways
Does it not work because people can still cheat or does it not work because it literally doesn't make it more cumbersome/expensive for the cheating player at all and causes 0% reduction in cheaters?

>>717557635
*slap*

>>717557928
Speak not of which you do not know.

>>717578437
>Pretty sure Valve does this. Again, ask a CS player how effective it is.
people always throw around the cheating word everytime they lose, it's a coping mechanism.
don't get me wrong, i'm sure there are cheaters, especially because valve and co like to ban in waves, but i guarantee you that number is far lower than people think it is.

>>717556628 (OP)
did you ever get a real answer, my board doesnt even support this shit. and i dont feel like getting a new board to play another let down of a battlefield game

>>717578773
OP here idk your guess is as good as mine.
I saw someone suggesting to sign my OS or something and that's the only suggestion I got

>>717557338
Have you tried getting a job?

>>717578825
Signing your OS yourself won't work. Anti-Cheats don't actually want secure boot for a chain of trust. They want secure boot so that they know you are running Microsoft© approved software. So they won't accept your keys, only Microsoft's.

>>717578715
My steam profile is filled with comments of people calling me a cheater, just because I shat on them. But top level matchmaking absolutely is cheater haven. There is a reason serious players move to Faceit for matchmaking (Kernel AC + actual admins on staff).

>>717579063
All it cares is your driver has WHQL stamp or cat.inf. If you are using Windows, your drivers already have these otherwise where the hell did you get them? Only fans?

>>717579231
>My steam profile is filled with comments of people calling me a cheater, just because I shat on them. But top level matchmaking absolutely is cheater haven.
the cognitive dissonance mate:
>accusations of cheating against me aren't accurate
>accusations of cheating against others are accurate

>>717579240
If for some reason you happen to add your own keys, ACs won't accept it. Custom keys are needed if you want secure boot on Linux + Nvidia setups.

>>717579284
Where did I say I was playing top level CS? It's well known that it's basically a coin toss if you get a cheater in 30k premier CS. As demonstrated by many pro players.

>>717579316
>add your own keys
What the hell are you even talking about
The cert only works that one specific .DLL or .INF. adding your own invalidates it unless you're spoofing but that's what's triggering the AC the spoofjob.

The AC won't start at all on Linux because it simply doesn't detect win32.

I enabled Secure Boot and TPM 2.0, and now I feel more secure. I also did not know I had UEFI+Legacy enabled, which is why I had ugly BIOS logo for years, when I enabled Secure Boot it switched to UEFI only, and now I have a pretty logo when I turn on my PC. I also uninstalled BF6 Beta, because the game is shit.

>>717579410
>It's well known that it's basically a coin toss if you get a cheater in 30k premier CS.
people at high elo are less likely to cheat because they have more to loose if they get banned
the place where you'll get more cheating is in midwit elo and at elos where new account start.

>>717579415
>What the hell are you even talking about
MOKs
>The AC won't start at all on Linux because it simply doesn't detect win32.
MOKs are needed needed for Nvidia + Linux setups for Secure Boot

But that's not even the point. >>717578825 Said to sign the OS yourself, but no Anti-Cheat will trust MOKs. Only MSFT keys.

>>717579536
>people at high elo are less likely to cheat because they have more to loose if they get banned
wtf are you talking about? Lose what? I can buy a legit looking account for like 30 USD. Cheaters constantly boost non-cheating accounts.

>>717578715
>people always throw around the cheating word everytime they lose, it's a coping mechanism.
Oh yeah, I absolutely agree, don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's not as bad as people would have you believe but by all accounts CS is still noticeably worse than other games with a lot of cheaters not even trying to hide it. Maybe I'm biased in this case because I haven't played it myself in a long time but I have friends who are pretty good players that even said they had more fun with Valorant than premier awhile back just because there weren't any cheaters.

>>717573939
You are literally doing what niggersheperds tell you to lmao. You're not special.

>>717576463
>It's meant specifically to protect against malware that can infect the bootloader and manipulate the lowest levels of the operating system to effectively hide itself and disable the detections the OS itself would try to implement
These are becoming increasingly common these days
They’re very spooky, if you get one on your computer you essentially cannot allow it to ever connect to the internet again or you’ll get raped by a hacker, whenever it’s connected to the internet it will start uploading all your files to the hacker

>>717574976
>named soldiers
Name one of them for me real quick, with proof of course.

>>717578136
And average reaction time for a human is 90 ms. Not an issue really.

>>717579895
Oh and apparently wiping the OS may not even work to get rid of it
Get one of these viruses and you’ve gotta buy a new computer

>>717579834
>said they had more fun with Valorant than premier awhile back just because there weren't any cheaters.
confirmation bias. riot is constantly pushing graphs without numbers that they're fighting against cheaters unlike valve that doesn't do much PR.
but yeah, kernel AC is a rather recent thing, and the workarounds are probably underdeveloped, so i wouldn't be surprised if it's more effective in the short term.

>>717558025
You don't need to run their DRM and they don't need to let you play their game.

>>717576463
>just move the trust up the chain
CVE-2025-7026
CVE-2025-7027
CVE-2025-7028
CVE-2025-7029
Oh wow, it's like giving your house keys to the CIA because you can't be trusted with them. And the CIA just outsources key handling to some random bum.
All a charade to enforce Microsoft approved software.

>>717580076
>kernel AC is a rather recent thing
PunkBuster released 25 years ago, grandpa.

>>717580047
If it's bootloader level, an OS wipe will absolutely clear it. Boot Kits like Gigabyte's recent vulnerability are persistent across OSs. But secure boot doesn't even protect against boot kits.

>>717580191
These niggercattle don't know that even EAC is kernel level anti cheat. They just learned a new buzzword, and keep using it, not realizing how stupid they look. It staggers me how the average /v/ user these days is no different from redditors.

>>717580191
punkbuster is not kernel-level AC
AFAIK koreans did that first with nprotect gameguard

How do I play this? I downloaded it but the game won't let me play it because the open beta still hasn't started

>>717581696
It absolutely was you zoomie retard. It installed a kernel-mode driver pdbrvs.sys and ran at ring 0. Google next time, before you talk about software that was in use before you were even sperm in your dad's sack.

>>717582579
Wait for tmr or watch twitch streamer playing bf6 to get access key

>>717556837
FPBP, PCiggers gave up their freedom when they went digital only.

>>717583014
>gave upntheir feeedom
And that equates to secure boot how...?

>>717559018
>turn off use tails
>turn it back on again use windows
Whoah

TPM or secure boot caused me system stutters on Windows 10. Not turning it on for slop like this

>>717585376
It's TPM.
and yes, it'll always slow down your computer no matter what. it's security vs performance.

Indian shills are using chatgpt to reply here

fucking sad

if you think EA asking for multiple things to be enabled to play then you clearly deserved to be fucked, in order to play some shallow attempt at having nuDICE attempt to ape the better games made by boomers who retired before them

fucking sad the excuses you shills come up with
Also ITS LITERALLY TURNED INTO COD
no thanks

holy fuck this is a fucking pain in the ass. what the fuck was EA thinking

>>717575807
Its partly retards with 2015 built pcs with legacy bios enabled. And a good chunk of people who've used cheats and were told to disabled secure boot by the cheat maker. Now they're pretending it's this moral obligation to not enable it because EA said to.

>>717585839
Cheaters are becoming a pain in the ass since the pc Chinese player base is growing.
Most people have secure boot enabled. Even the ones that don't will change it. For cases like your Pic related if they don't go through the process of doing it their PC is probably too old to play the game.
Essentially they looked at a chart of people who refuse to/can't enabled secure boot and rightfully said "fuck em then".
If you can't Enable secure boot without fucking up your pc it's probably old as fuck and you're too retarded to be playing pc gaming anyway.

>>717564964
How? Free games have no barrier of entry for cheaters. I hate EA but hackers in a multiplayer shooter happens ever single time, especially in AAA.

>>717585839
It's on by default for prebuilts. Normies don't even have to think about this. If you do, you're more retarded than normies.

>>717557205
That's like saying you shouldn't have to install Windows to play a game. Same energy.

>>717586368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFfs_D6JzEo

nice anti cheat bro

>>717579895
seethe

>>717586981
Its a beta and I'm sure they'll have a cat and mouse game of patching those hacks.
I'd rather have some security that can be refined than none.
Remember because you pc niggers kept cheating and pirating shit now we have to have the deodorants locked up and go through metal detectors.
Also there's literally no reason not to turn on secure boot. Unless you have rootkit hacks that requires them to be turned off.

https://technology.riotgames.com/news/demolishing-wallhacks-valorants-fog-war
Companies saw valorant and riots anti cheat working so they're trying to adopt a similar method to combat cheaters.
Just like with denuvo, companies saw a drm that was near unbreakable and used it.
Think of pc gaming like a retail store in the blackest community where droves of niggers steal anything that isn't locked down. So you have to adapt your store to stop them from stealing, hacking and cheating. You don't enjoy having to empty your pockets at the door or go through a metal detector but you understand deep down inside if it stops just one nigger from stealing the system works.
Now if you have the stance that none of that is needed cause nigs are gonna nig. Then you might as well be one.

>>717556628 (OP)
>reddit spacing
>tech illiterate

>>717588298
Absolutely brainrotted post but you're not wrong about the trend. Riot proved you can neuter wallhacks if you’re willing to kneecap your user’s system at boot level. Everyone saw Vanguard work (despite the whining), so now every AAA publisher wants their own glorified spyware disguised as anti-cheat. Denuvo déjà vu.

Still, designing your game around the idea that your entire userbase is guilty until proven innocent is just lazy dev work and terrible security theater. They’re not trying to make a secure system, they’re trying to shift blame for failure onto the player. “Get hacked? Well clearly you disabled secure boot, enjoy your VAC ban.”

>>717556628 (OP)
>No you don't understand I CAN'T do the thing that would disable my ability to run rootkit kernel level cheats!
Fucking idiots don't even have enough knowledge to use an actual excuse of encrypted C: drive preventing them from converting to GPT.
That's the issue with you PCfags, it's always some bullshit story. Just be honest "I use cheats in rust so I need secure boot off" or "if they didn't have denuvo I was going to pirate it" "my gtx1080 is struggling to run this game maybe it's time to upgrade" It's always some holier than thou song and dance.
This is why companies are tired of the shit and are giving no opt out bullshit for stuff now. No non kernel level anti cheat release or drm free release on GoG. You people are animals who are finally being treated as such.

>>717588903
Normiefication of PC has been an absolute disaster. They can't even follow EA's simple instructions that are so simple it's impossible to fuck it up.

>>717588828
>Everyone saw Vanguard
More importantly they saw the number of legitimate users who enjoy the game put up with it. Same with denuvo. The amount of users who drop the game or didn't purchase because of these things are insignificant. At the end of the day the world isn't reddit or steam fourms. People just want to enjoy their game and in cases like Vanguard it legitimately reduce the number of cheaters to near zero. Why wouldn't the average player not want that? So this bitching about secure boot and whatever most normal people realize it's a necessary evil and it's already enabled on their computer. Pic related is how all "gamer rights" crusaders look

>>717557692
>local group ran a BFH server
>screenshots include random mixups from BF2 and also people tabbed out on Facebook

>>717589136
Those people need to buy a console if you're that afraid/ignorant to change bios settings and don't have friends who can help you. Buy a fucking ps5. Life will be much easier.
Also if you think your pc will fucking kneel over and die if you change a bios setting. Fix your shit or upgrade. Pc gaming used to mean you knew basic troubleshooting and bios stuff like XMP and overclocking now people proclaim their insurmountable ability to modify their PC settings. Pathetic

>>717559234
what does secure boot have to do with telemetry?
why are you faggots trying so hard to defend this?

>>717588903
>>717589136
>They can't even follow EA's simple instructions that are so simple it's impossible to fuck it up.
Ea kinda forgot about the key clearing thing for some people like that guys complaining about
If you have factory keys instead of user keys a normie would get confused pretty quickly when they see that secure boot is still off despite them enabling it in bios

Seeing the words “reset” in an option you need to press in bios would make a lot of people nervous

>>717558025
It doesn't look at your BIOS settings (It's UEFI, not BIOS BTW). It looks at whether your Windows is booted correctly or not.

>>717590287
He's saying that if anon is so concerned about "if people know if he uses secure or not" it's a moot point because you're already being tracked on a OS level regardless of secure boot. Which is 100% true. Secure boot is not a privacy issue it's a security white list issue.
Now if the nigga has it disabled cause he uses wall hacks in games and those need it to be turned off that's a legitimate reason. Using privacy as some retarded attempt to mask your ignorance of a topic or feature is retarded

>>717590559
>Seeing the words “reset” in an option you need to press in bios would make a lot of people nervous
Understandable but if you can't recover your pc or do a bit of Googling on your phone to clear that vagueness up. Then turn off the pc and order a ps5 or a new pre-built

>>717575807
I had some debloater thing do it automatically along with a ton of other minor shit issues that collectively gave me a massive performance boost in game.

>>717590917
anon wtf are you talking about
it doesn't matter what function secure boot serves in my system. the game may as well be checking if i have rgb lights turned on.
btw no cheater is impeded whatsoever by this secure boot requirement, it literally doesn't affect them at all.
you sound like a 15 year old trying to sound smart. talk about retarded

>>717575807
>This seems like such a trivial thing to get upset over and waste time arguing about.
right? why does battlefield 6 treat it as mandatory since it's so trivial? it's so silly of them.

>>717591310
RGB lights don't affect how Windows works you dullard. Unless the driver is buggy and causes Windows to crash (likely)

>>717591624
reported for being underage

>>717591204
>I had some debloater thing do it automatically
This should set off alarms man

>>717591310
>btw no cheater is impeded whatsoever by this secure boot requirement
https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/rust/5245399-cheats-work-secure-boot-enabled.html
Just say you're a faggot who loves cheating next time instead of wasting my time.

>>717591802
if you are tech illiterate maybe. Why should I type out the same unchanging shit in a console for every windows computer every single time?

>>717591883
>noooo if you aren't going to play shooter slop 2025 then you're a cheater noooooo
you're still not getting it.
i don't care if they ask me to turn on my rgb lights.
i will drop your game at the slightest inconvenience. playing battlefield is not that important.
next time don't require secure boot i guess

Thread seems to be full of zoomers who weren't born yet when secure boot was first introduced...

>>717592003
Whatever do what you do faggot. Glad your cheating ass won't be in my lobbies.

>>717588828
community servers would solve this, to an extent (for certain groups of users) but the issue is community servers extends the life of old games way longer than devs want to deal with them - BF4 and BF1 have large playerbases STILL to this day

>>717588298
riots slop doesnt stop cheating you just cant tell because they dont have fucking replays for valorant lmao

>>717592002
I don't mean using a script, that makes sense. A debloater script should not be modifying secure boot settings

>>717592115
>if you won't turn on secure boot you must be a cheater
>secure boot has nothing to do with stopping cheaters and demonstrably is not stopping them
the absolute state of zoomers
>>717592117
try reading

>>717588298
>https://technology.riotgames.com/news/demolishing-wallhacks-valorants-fog-war
Vanguard doesn't do anything for this. All this article is doing is explaining server-side logic to determine whether someone may have another player in their field of view or not—this has nothing to do with kernel level anti-cheats or DRMs.

If the cheater does not receive information about where another player's character is from the server, they cannot determine in advance what is there or not. (For example, exact footstep coordinates, exact player position, rotation, etc.)

However, since they only care about saving costs (and not the actual user experience) they will resort to more draconian measures that will undoubtedly ruin much more than just cheaters' experience.

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Cutting down on server-side logic reduces processing power required, thus reducing costs for their servers, thus the client requires more information and becomes more authoritative as a result. The downside is that you can have various compromised clients saying things that shouldn't be possible (for example, bullets doing a 180° mid-flight) because the server doesn't enforce any real logic. This creates a problem: how do you then trust a player's client to feed other players the right information? You go the easy route: instead of ensuring an action is possible through server-side authority and logic, you simply take control of the player's computer at their expense.

They created a new problem (that is supposed to fight the real problem—spoiler: it doesn't) and they're telling you that to fix the problem you need to give them your keys. Just trust them, bro.

Why is my performance so shit? I'm getting sub 30 FPS. I have a 4089 super and i913900k, 32gb ram.

i'm hoping if a less gay game enforces this that you won't bend over and take it like i'm seeing here. seems like almost exclusively utter faggot games that use it, though.

>>717588903
>>717589638
I’m simply just not gonna change it lmao. Have fun with your half-assed dogshit from EA tho. All yours

>>717556628 (OP)
If they don't force IOMMU this is retarded

>>717556837
Because he's too dumb, lol.

>>717588903
kill yourself. even if this is bait you need to kill yourself for typing it. get off this website.

Secure boot is fine and all brut my motherboard needed csm 2.0 for something and to turn on secure boot I had to turn that off? So if I need csm 2.0 on the I can't play bf6? Makes me have to choose which is dumb to me

>>717575807
I dual boot. Wanted to try the game. Switch boot drive to my windows SSD. Turn on SecureBoot. Play game. It's okay. When beta ends I'll change my boot drive back to Linux one and turn off SecureBoot.
Some Linux distros even work with SecureBoot like Fedora. If this becomes the norm for games maybe I switch over to fedora. NBD.

>>717560243
Strange, I've been playing almost 24/7 since it released and I've yet to encounter a single hacker.

Bit odd innit.

>>717561086
>90% of cheating happens on Linux
where do people pull such retarded stats from? apex anti cheat started actively blocking linux users and the number of cheaters remained the same kek

>>717556628 (OP)
>HOW 2 SOLVE CHEATER PROBLEM
Ban all chinks and zoomers (born post 95)

Honestly when I saw this secure boot shit, I knew there was no hope.
If they wanted to combat cheating, just have more realistic "average stats" and let pnkbstr take more screenshots.
Also, autoban faggots with names like
>llIllIIllIIlIlllIII
you dont see it, but those are i and L mixed, to prevent people from reporting or votekicking these cunts
or
>OO0O00O0OOO00O
works better in BF font.

Fkn reddit has shown over a decade ago,
that premium cheats dont even store shit on your drives anymore,
they run via browser and just inject into ram.

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/t7201/im_a_hacker_and_i_have_some_information_for_the/

All this shit is pointless shilling, like Tod telling us about his next gen game.

>>717556628 (OP)
>changed it to try the beta
>beta sucks
>weird aim input lag
>Bullet sponge enemies 1 shot you (maybe cheater, maybe console, maybe I suck)
>uninstalled BF6
>changed secure boot back

>>717556628 (OP)
>Loonix fag find out ge won't be able to play games anymore
Good, now get out.

>>717598250
>https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/t7201/im_a_hacker_and_i_have_some_information_for_the/
>Goes on and on about how great and undetectable the hack is
>Shows off all the features and how customizable it is
>"So many other players hack too, they're in all your games"
>'Subscribes' again just to post an image of the settings page after it gets enough attention
>Multiple comments unsubtly mentioning the hack's name
>One of said comments even posts all the other games it works on with the dude encouraging people to PM him if they want to know anything else
This is literally just an advertisement lmao

>>717599880
Kinda, but how else are you gone inform and prove what levels of bullshit cheaters have reached.
Especialy with all the normies retards in the category
>in my infintesimal ammount of hours, I never saw a cheater
because they are so dense, they think cheaters are those spinbotters in the sky from the early days.

>>717557205
It's their store, they shouldn't have to serve people covered in poop.

>>717561338
>oh ma gawd those sheeple am I right
You not being able to run unsigned rootkits on my PC is not surveillance. Just like me locking my door isn't.
Arrogant retards who have no idea what they are complaining about, the lot of you.

>>717562186
You should not play the game and use secure boot anyway, because it's a good feature, you monkey. You probably have it already on, since you don't look smart enough to know how to disable it.

>>717570487
It does stop them. Compare Counter Strike with Valorant. Dumb faggot.

>>717570913
>one cheater every 10 games is the same as 5 cheaters every 2 games
Do people seriously have this kind of black and white thinking?

>>717575558
No, secure boot is putting a stronger lock on your door. Kernel level anti cheat is letting a guard camp in your garden.
All the shit you are talking about with "in your house" is shit they already have access to because you are inviting their game into your house.

>>717571056
If your job depends on people not protecting their PCs you start talking shit about things that do that.