Thread 717558853

>Eternal mod update
>Dark Ages got a huge update
>The Doom series still exists and I can play it anytime I so desire
As always, it's a good day for some Doom.

Based gaming gamer

>>717558853 (OP)
The dark ages update is seriously great. You can turn off slow motion now and is makes a big difference. The hoard mode thing they added is also pretty neat.

>>717558853 (OP)
>DOOMRPG
VERY based

>>717558853 (OP)
Nice try corpo shill.

Quack

You aren't supposed to like shart ages, chud.

>>717558853 (OP)
fixed that for you

haha yes beautiful doom fans will please to be purchasing the dark ages sir :)

>>717559010
The hoard mode is seriously undercooked. It's a good idea, but it's not there yet.

>>717562698
Doom 2 is not Doom you fucking retard

>>717558853 (OP)
>no doom 64

>>717562802
I WILL use my gamepass subscription to beat it in 3 days and I WILL uninstall and not touch it again

>>717563109
fair enough

>>717562834
Yea I kinda agree. They like made all the pieces but didn't put it together. I'd like presets or something. Like random easy, medium, hard waves. And then like change how many waves and how hard they are. Also silly modifiers would be fun. Like game speed changes every ten seconds, or random difficulty sliders every ten seconds.

>>717563741
Presets are essential, as would be sharing them.
I'd also like to be able to tick on/off what weapons you're given.

This is barrels of fun

>>717563880
Well they said they'd be developing it more so we'll see what they end up adding to it. So far they've done a great job at listening to what people want with this game post release

>>717562698
But it says Doom right there...

Eternal > Dark Ages = Doom 1 > Doom 3 > Doom 2 > Doom 2016 > Doom 3 BFG Edition

>>717558853 (OP)
based doom game enjoyer except doom 3 that game is bad and 2016 is just meh

>>717562698
doom rpg is more of a doom game than doom 2, that shit ruined the fucking franchise forever

>>717558853 (OP)
>>717562698
>>717565871
64 exists

>>717565871
Obviously if we’re counting fan WADs, Doom 2 is above Dark Ages and 1 but still behind Eternal
>>717565947
Haven’t played it yet

>>717565976
>Haven’t played it yet
you can't be considered a real doom fan then

how're the balance adjustments in dark ages? it seems like they wanted to address how nobody uses multiple weapons because there's literally zero reason to but they also nerfed a few weapons because they were balanced around one at a time, impaler and SSG mostly

The Dark Ages was fucking stinky dogshit. I bet you literally clapped and cried when the giant mech punched the giant kaijus like your favorite reddit movie Pacific Rim

>>717566063
>I bet you literally clapped and cried when the giant mech punched the giant kaijus
Actually yes I did. I enjoy more things than you do, your life must be miserable

>>717566063
>b-but doom isn’t good because of the story!!!
You’re gay. Just skip the cutscenes like everyone else. At least in Dark Ages and Eternal all of them can be skipped unlike 2016

>>717566093
>Actually yes I did. I enjoy more things than you do, your life must be miserable

>>717565947
>64 exists
not doom

>>717566135
>You’re gay. Just skip the cutscenes like everyone else. At least in Dark Ages and Eternal all of them can be skipped unlike 2016

>>717558853 (OP)
I must confess. I've never found any Doom fun. As a kid I prefer Duke Nukem and Contra Hard Corps over Doom any day. Doom felt like such a downgrade. I played Half Life 2 before Doom 3, and again, Doom 3 felt like a downgrade. NuDoom is just meh, on it's own.

>>717566403
Eternal is the only one that’s really a must play

>>717558853 (OP)
>Doom rpg
Based

>>717566403
>i'm a gay femboy that shoves cocks up his ass
i mean that's cool and all but why tell us?

>>717566403
>contra hard corps
What the fuck does this have to do with doom? You are literally an AI bot that got its logic all fucked up.

>>717566440
>Shooty jumpy arena simulator
Nu-Doom is so fucking gay. Its just Devil May Cry in first person. Doom has actual level design that you have to learn.

>>717567068
>Doom has actual level design that you have to learn.
Surely you've made your own wads, right?

Too bad about Wolfenstein though.
Holy fuck.

>>717567068
>What the fuck does this have to do with doom?
It scratched the same shooting itch, despite being different genre.

>>717567068
>Its just Devil May Cry in first person
lmao self own because to any normal person that sounds fucking awesome

>>717567203
10 years ago I made 2 levels but im such an over perfectionist I decided it was too much of a time dump for something literally nobody cared about or was gonna play. It was like slightly more autistic minecraft creative mode. I play the fuck out of doom wads though and I respect the fuck out of some of the mind blowing maps knowing how much timesink went into them

>>717567419
Maybe if you're a consolefag with shit taste in games. Consolefag nu-doom is perfect for retards like you I guess.

>>717567521
ironic because doom 1 and 2 are much easier to play efficiently on controller than eternal is. go back to the drawing board buddy and come up with some shit that actually makes sense

>>717567462
>bro doom is all about its level design
>posts an image of a slaughterwad

You know upon retrospect doom really was never good and a janky piece of shit that instantly got outclassed the moment duke nukem became an fps, not to mention how the new series brought in the completely insufferable sòy guzzling queer redditors

>>717567315
How does a brutally difficult 1 hit death 2d run n gun fulfill the same "shooting" itch as an FPS. Contra is just a shmup with gravity, Its nothing alike. You might as well play Gunstar Heros or Metal Slug or some shit.

Maybe you just have a gay hard-on for Arnold Schwarzenegger ripoff characters?

>>717566063
>reddit movie Pacific Rim
>calling pacfic rim reddit

>>717567754
>Its nothing alike
I never said it was similar. I said it scratched same itch.
>Arnold Schwarzenegger ripoff characters
I played as a little robot.

>>717567729
Meanwhile doom has a consistent player base and solid community of mappers, speedrunners, 100%rs. And Duke Nukem is just another single player campaign you play and never touch again for a few years. Duke is so much more "jank" because Duke 3d aged like milk, whereas Doom actually has actually aged gracefully with time and feels good in a variety of mapping styles.

>>717567708
Oh fuck off you queer, just talking about how impressive the visually good looking maps are with my limited experience in doom mapping.

>>717567582
You're baiting hard. I dare you to try and beat plutonia UV pistol start with a controller. But my guess is you are going to lie with your next post.

>>717567997
You should have posted a better example, because that is the exact mapping style you criticized Eternal for.

>>717558853 (OP)
Where's DOOM 64?

>>717568087
non-canon non-Id land.
terrible reimagining with terrible monster and gun designs.
fuck Midway.

>>717567826
Are you serious? Pacific Rim is manchild supreme. That shit is cool if you're fucking 14 years old. The same goes for all the fucking power rangers faggit fantasy shit in Doom the dark niggers. Its especially annoying when the entire mech part is literally 1 step away from just being a fucking QTE, you just want it to be over so you can go back to FPS gameplay. But no, They want their doomslayer to be so fucking EPIC just like their favorite MARVEL movies so he has to have a big giant mech that punches demons!!!!! VERY COOL. Its JUST like my big giant plastic toys I play with!!!

>>717568057
How about Ancient Aliens then you little picky little bitch. Or is that also some shit you dont like.

>>717558853 (OP)
Based nu-DOOM fanbase.

>>717566232
And Doom 3 is??

>>717568331
>NO BRO MECHS ARE ACTUALLY KIDDY

>>717562698
doom 2 sucks and you don't need to pretend to be le based

dark ages is significantly more fun post patch. speeding up parry and melee is like speeding up glory kills, it makes them feel significantly less repetitive. faster swapping and being able to cancel into parry means that you aren't punished for attempting to have fun which is good. it probably makes the game easier but w/e.

>>717558853 (OP)
What about this one chad?

No matter what they do Dark Ages will always be bland, underwhelming shite with forced vehicle and turret sections
The actual good news from this Quakecon is the new DOOM Eternal update, making mods officially supported by the game, with a new launcher and all

>>717573790
Truly the best modern DOOM game

>>717558853 (OP)
Metroid mogs doom so bad that it can't and it will never compete. Go ahead...seethe.

>>717566063
Well I do love Pacific Rim

>>717574338
Something about dark ages causes extreme seethe amongst eternies for some reason

>In DOOM The Dark Ages, you will be le heckin' slow tank, le STAND AND FIGHT
>Everyone says it's garbage, mediocre at best, game is forgotten after a week
>Ackshually no you were always supposed to be le fighter jet in Dark Ages, here's an update that change the whole core gameplay, you can now switch weapons really fast like in previous games
Hugo really didn't think this shit through heh?
DOOM 2016 and Eternal also had lots of update throughout the years, but none of them changed the game to this extent
It almost feels like Bethesda or Microsoft wanted to rush this game out of the door, feels underbaked
I remember with Eternal how it was supposed to come out in 2018, and then they postponed the release to 2020, should have done the same here, retards

>>717569451
>>717565925
But isn't Grezzo 2 a Doom 2 mod?

>>717574558
How does swapping weapons faster change the entire core gameplay? All it does is slightly improve the pace because you're not waiting for an animation to finish mid-combat.

>>717565947
And is better than any of the games released later. I'd play Doom 64 anyday over nuDoom.

>>717573790
The mod tools are pretty impressive to be honest
There's infinite potential for new levels and shit there

>>717574998
Have you read the whole patchnote?
I think it's kind of unfathomable that they'd adjust so much stuff in an SP game
This rivalizes, and even go beyond what FromSoft did with Elden Ring for 2-3 years, shit is fucking insane
It's like they know they released a severely underbaked game, and are scrambling around trying to save the game from being forgotten forever

>Big update with new gamemode released (actually just a kiddy sandbox mode)
>Game is still the least populated out of all 3 nu-DOOM games
They will never ever unfuck this game

>>717565871
This, but replace Mid Ages with 2016

>>717558853 (OP)
The fact that this is QUAKECON and what they announce is an update for a game that was an insulting awful doom game made from the remnants of the cancelled Quake game that was canned because ID didn't think people cared about Quake, is hilarious.

>>717562698
this is the kind of guy who says metallica went to shit after ride the lightning

Objective truth

>>717576898
this but doom eternal and its dlcs in s tier instead of doom 1

>>717576898
>doom 2 and 3 considered the same quality
i cannot abide this
even if you think 1 > 2 (which is true), 2 =/= 3

>>717573790
>>717575327
the editor is comprehensive but not accessible, controversial opinion but snapmap was the solution, the game fundamental game design is inflexible so prefab chunks is idiot proof

>>717566063
The levels mostly being so basic and bland is what takes tda down a few points for me, that and the dragon sections. The mech stuff was at least fun and short enough to give a good breather between the more serious combat. What really got me hyped was zombie doom guy refusing to die.

>>717577295
Snapmap was too fucking limited

>>717558853 (OP)
What are these fake AI covers? They never made another Doom after 3. This some new Indian meme or what?

>>717577338
if you mean the 12 monster active at a time limit I can only think of 1 or 2 instances in the campaign where there are more on screen at once either, it's nudoom not doom after all

They had FPS perfection with Eternal and threw it all away all because Call of Halo 2016 fags cried that they couldn't just use the SSG destroyer of all worlds instawin to carry them through the game.
God forbid Eternal reward intelligent experimentation and mastery of its mechanics. The filtered shitskin with a bruised ego brought us the Flop Ages, the natural progression of 2016's design philosophy.

>>717578532
>FPS perfection with Eternal
lmao

>>717574558
I haven't bothered trying to quickswap combo or anything but not being punished like you drank from your flask in dark souls for switching weapons in a nudoom game just feels right

I almost feel that smooth swaps are the defining feature of a nudoom game more than glory kills or any shit like that. you are rewarded for variety and constant continued aggression. dark ages was like "what if we killed your flow whenever you tried to switch weapons, effectively forcing you to just sit there and wait for a parry whenever you're in a fight or even back up out of a fight to have the breathing room to do it." at best it was boring. at worst, actively frustrating.

To be honest I don't care about Mid Ages anymore, Eternal now has official mod support and it's all that matters

>>717558853 (OP)
>Dark Ages got a huge update
That's fun and all but it will never fix the abysmally boring and bland corpo "metal" soundtrack
And before some retard accuses me of glazing Mick Gordon, the Hulshult and Levy pieces in Eternal's DLCs were equally as great as Mick's music.
4 people in Finishing Move couldn't make a fucking soundtrack at least as good as Mick's, and he was alone to do it for 2 fucking games
Some fan did a remake of Unchained Predator from Mid Ages that sounds kinda like Mick's style, and it's already much much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zppRvO7To
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQQgLg9VXI
For comparison

>>717579292
It has for over a year.

>>717581201
Oops didn't know about that, guess it was a beta version or something

>>717576898
pee pee poo poo

>>717579292
>>717581228
I think they released the editor last quakecon and this update is more like an idiot proof steam workshop type front end to load mods

No raising of the difficulty sliders changes the fact that the basic mechanics of shoot-parry-melee are just not that in-depth. The overall difficulty of the game even after adjusting the sliders is still low and the parry system never changes no matter how much you adjust it. It's a mid game.

>>717558853 (OP)
Okay so what's the best version to play WADs?
WADs of all the older FPS ones like Hexen, etc
Still GZDoom?

Are Eternal mods good or it's just tranny shit like
>Let's turn MC into 2B from Nier!

>>717582523
It's mostly new levels, new master versions of levels, slaughter arenas, and also few light reskins
So yeah it's breddy gud

>>717582523
All i've seen are hoard modes and shit like 20 maruders at once in arenas taken from the campaign

>>717582891
Seems fun as fuck

>>717582523
>hot female characters
>tranny shit
Seek help

>>717566037
They don't care if you just use one weapon
They just didn't want any weapon to be obviously better than the others. In the last patch they pretty much nerfed every gun and added more enemies to every level. Every update makes the game harder a little

>>717583576
Only trannies care how your character looks in a video game

>>717576797
There was no "canceled Quake game". TDA was always a Doom game