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Anonymous No.717569331 >>717571013 >>717571692 >>717571703 >>717573683 >>717576646 >>717586469
Jedi scum!
Anonymous No.717569747 >>717570570 >>717571075 >>717571841 >>717576780 >>717580450 >>717582309 >>717584583
>George Lucas took one look at this and really said "this guy's a pussy bitch faggot, actually."
Anonymous No.717570570 >>717570708 >>717574529 >>717576780
>>717569747
My headcanon has always been
>started out as the murderblender we see in your picrel
>got his organs pushed in by Mace's BBC in that one scene and got weakened
>became pussy bitch faggot Grievous we see in the 3D series and ROTS
Anonymous No.717570680
>Takkatakkatakkatakkatakkatakka *gets four kills*

Why the fuck did the Battlefront 2 devs decide to make his 'running away like a little bitch' ability his most deadly attack
Anonymous No.717570708
>>717570570
Sorry to ERM ACKTUALLY you, but that doesn't work given that Mace only did that during the invasion of Coruscant, which literally happens right before and during Revenge of the Sith.
Anonymous No.717570717
Playing the 1v1 duel mode of this game with my best friend till like 4AM as a kid was the shit
Anonymous No.717570862
Shame there were not a single good game ever since the academy
Anonymous No.717571013
>>717569331 (OP)
Awesome design
Anonymous No.717571075 >>717571841 >>717573223
>>717569747
It's just so fucking dumb and bizarre. You can't make him look like a droid Grim Reaper who's whole shtick is that he personally collects lightsabers from Jedi that he slays and say "well, actually, no, he's just a big old coward that runs away while shaking his fist saying 'I'll get you next time, Master Gadget!' while next to never doing any 'getting' at all."
That's hack shit and Tartakovsky understood the assignment the first go around.
Anonymous No.717571668
>there will never be a game about Grievous' time as a master sharpshooter/warlord, slaying swarms of soulless bugmen with his qt wife
I hate Disney.
I hate Filoni.
I hate everyone involved in making Star Wars go to shit in the late 00s.
Anonymous No.717571692 >>717589654
>>717569331 (OP)
> Jedi's cum
Kinda gay, innit?
Anonymous No.717571703
>>717569331 (OP)
THE ROOM IS FILLING WITH POISON GAS
Anonymous No.717571841 >>717572069 >>717572934 >>717573203 >>717573968 >>717583557
>>717569747
>>717571075
The reason why Lucas nerfed Grevious into the ground was he didn't want to risk him overshadowing Vader and for there to even be a debate on if Grevious would be stronger.
Anonymous No.717572069 >>717572591
>>717571841
The thing is, though, that Vader would have always been stronger by default just because Grievous is only a Jedi-killing tool made to compensate for his lack of Force ability.
Dooku handles him like he's nothing and practically begs him to strike him in ways he can't deflect or anticipate (and Anakin does exactly that to him.)
Vader being Vader would always have handled him, so it couldn't have been about who was better. Anybody that actually understood Star Wars could tell you that. It really seems as though nerfing Grievous the way he was was done out of jealousy.
Anonymous No.717572591 >>717572869 >>717577259 >>717578410
>>717572069
But that's the problem, if we only had Glendy's Grevious, you would most certainly have people, and rightfully so claiming he could beat Vader. Dooku could only handle Grevious because he was the teacher and Grevious didn't have any advantages over him which he needed to take down jedi. If he got the element of surprise on Vader, it's very easy to argue he could win if the match wasn't drawn out.
Anonymous No.717572869 >>717572938 >>717573084
>>717572591
I really don't think there's anything wrong with that, especially when you already have people like Han Solo getting the drop on Vader in A New Hope or Luke - someone who isn't even fully trained - being able to outsmart and overpower him at the end of it all.
Vader is incredibly strong but he's not supposed to be infallible. Star Wars is a setting where there should be characters that can rival Vader and the Emperor and Grievous fits that role nicely since he's specifically designed to be a counter to Force users.
Anonymous No.717572934 >>717573084
>>717571841
that's a stupid fucking reason
even if you exclude expanded universe force feats, darth vader would destroy grievous just because grievous is a purely physical saber unga bunga without basic force sensitivity
if he got the drop on him, then he'd probably be able to do it if he somehow didn't get a force warning, but by that logic anyone can
Anonymous No.717572938 >>717573595 >>717573669 >>717586481
>>717572869
Forgot to mention that it's absolutely okay for it to go the other way, too.
Anonymous No.717573084 >>717573395 >>717573595
>>717572869
>>717572934
But there in lies the problem, Lucas didn't want anyone thinking Grevious was Vader's equal or even worse, what if Grevious was in the running to be picked over Vader as Palapatine's right hand man?
>Extended universe
LMAO

Also Grievous is an extreme threat if he uses all 4 of his arms independently unlike what you saw in RotS where he just had them all swing at the same time. Vader would only be able to parry so many sabers and have to have his other arm free to use the force.
Anonymous No.717573203 >>717573593
>>717571841
Its funny cause in Grievous second appearance Dooku is mopping the floor with him in a training session and he tells him:
>if you dont wear down your enemy through attrition, fear and surprise you need to retreat
And when faced with a master he gets his ass handed to him. Why? He tried to take him head on in his own arrogance. So Grievous was never going to overshadow the best Jedi and Sith. Hes flashy but what isnt flashy in TCW? Secondly he has no real force powers just his own cybernetics.
Anonymous No.717573223
>>717571075
He needs faceless mook jedi to look tough, he's useless against plot armor. Many such cases. Sad!
Anonymous No.717573395 >>717573593
>>717573084
One of the problems with Vader is that they made him too stiff and it's as if people act like it would be some sort of sin for him to be able to move a bit better in duels.
Anonymous No.717573593 >>717573721 >>717576241
>>717573203
>And when faced with a master he gets his ass handed to him
What? Grevious had Ki-Adi-Mundi on the ropes before the clone commandos saved him, he also defeated Shaak Ti, twice.

>>717573395
Vader is just Str over Dex after getting stuck in his suit. If Grendy Grievous could keep both his hands occupied, he could theoretically win since Vader needs to use his hands to control the force.
Anonymous No.717573595 >>717573669
>>717573084
>robot that is canonically weak to force attacks shown >>717572938
motherfucker, vader just raises an arm and force chokes him
grievous would literally get ACKed
Anonymous No.717573610 >>717573719
Where did all the lore of Grievous come from? The movies just insert him suddenly.
Anonymous No.717573669 >>717574042 >>717578618
>>717573595
Good luck trying to do that if he's not stuck in a defensive position where he can't manuiver like he is here >>717572938
https://youtu.be/WIj7gIDFDe4?si=Y0A7Rb88v3jJYrG4&t=215
Anonymous No.717573683 >>717574270 >>717575276 >>717575659 >>717578626 >>717579069 >>717581042
>>717569331 (OP)
>Jedis cum
Huh?!
Anonymous No.717573719
>>717573610
Grievous was introduced back in the 2D Clone Wars (Genndywars).
His lore was fleshed out during the same period during the wait between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.
Here's a screencap I took a long time ago about getting into Grievous lore that I never get to post.
Anonymous No.717573721 >>717574042
>>717573593
I think he means when Samuel L Jackson pretty much one-shots him with a glance
Anonymous No.717573806 >>717573894 >>717573995
So what's the reasoning for his coughing now that Genndy Wars got deleted from the canon
Anonymous No.717573894
>>717573806
His cybernetics are experimental and they give him a sore throat.
Anonymous No.717573968 >>717574176
>>717571841
Why didn't he just have Anakin kill Grievous
Anonymous No.717573995 >>717574446 >>717574569 >>717576208 >>717578745 >>717580013
>>717573806
The reasoning was always that he had shitty, crude cybernetics. He'd always coughed. That was the reasoning in Lucas's head when he was making the movie, not that he hadn't coughed but then his chest was crushed by Mace Windu 5 minutes before the film starts and he suddenly started coughing.
Anonymous No.717574042
>>717573721
Again, >>717573669, look at where he was and the sitution, he couldn't maneuver since he had to stop anyone from rescuing palaptine. Which is why he was so easily force crushed, if he was allowed to maneuver, he wouldn't have been caught and it would be like when Ki-Adi-Mundi attempted a force crush him
Anonymous No.717574176
>>717573968
Anakin being the chosen one and all that jazz with Sheeve's 3d chess. Also Anikian and Grevious only met once face to face during the entire Clone Wars.
Anonymous No.717574270 >>717574659
>>717573683
Rape
Anonymous No.717574360 >>717574779 >>717576301
>tfw MMOs are dead, and even if they weren't, the magic would be gone due to being an adult with time constraints and the prevalence of data-mining and excessive minmaxxing
>tfw no modern pre-NGE SWG reboot
Anonymous No.717574446
>>717573995
I never thought about the fact he was a prototype vader
Anonymous No.717574529
>>717570570
>organs pushed in by Mace
Oh you're running away, fuck your organs!
Windu did this shit so hilariously casually
Anonymous No.717574569 >>717574779 >>717574942
>>717573995
>"I don't want him to bee too Vader-like."
>is literally proto-Vader
????
Anonymous No.717574659 >>717575224 >>717575271 >>717575276 >>717575659 >>717582402
>>717574270
Dude she's a literal minor
Anonymous No.717574779 >>717575035
>>717574360
>Reddit frog

>>717574569
>Reddit man
Anonymous No.717574942
>>717574569
id interpret that as him pointing out that vader is very deliberate and clean despite his crude cybernetics, as exemplified by his tempered breathing and gait. meanwhile grievous lurches around like a weird insect person and constantly coughs
Anonymous No.717575035
>>717574779
>4chan anonymous
Anonymous No.717575224 >>717575876
>>717574659
What is the age of consent in the Republic
Does it vary by planet
Which planet's years does it use
Anonymous No.717575271
>>717574659
Out of 10!
Anonymous No.717575276 >>717575442 >>717580220
>>717573683
>>717574659
Sir, this is a Grievous thread.
Anonymous No.717575442
>>717575276
>Pfft, walk it off bitch
Anonymous No.717575659
>>717573683
>>717574659
I HATE AHSOKA
I HATE AHSOKA
I HATE AHSOKA
Anonymous No.717575876
>>717575224
oh wow look at that we're stationed on twilekistan
Anonymous No.717576027
Droid Jedi
Anonymous No.717576208 >>717576425
>>717573995
>I don't want him to be too Vader-like
>He's ill
>so he coughs a lot
>like how one of Vader's most memorable traits is that he's breathing through a mechanical respirator
Actually, nevermind. It's totally inline with Lucas' other "remember the OT?!" references.
Anonymous No.717576215 >>717576636 >>717581442
I always preferred Ventress to Grievous
Anonymous No.717576241 >>717576610
>>717573593
>Grevious had Ki-Adi-Mundi on the ropes before the clone commandos saved him
Because he wore them all down in a prolonged battle. After getting the jump on them and killing one with surprise. Same deal with Shaak Ti who he chased throughout Coruscant and had his Magna-Guards fight until he got the Chancellor. Again, context is key. For the record I can see him beating most Jedi in a straight 1v1, due to his warrior training and enhancements. But hes not beating large groups or Anakin, OW, Mace, Yoda least not without crippling their morale and body first. And Anakin kills Dooku, the guy going easy on Grievous in a training session.
Anonymous No.717576301
>>717574360
i also miss pre-cu swg, and i still can't wait for TORTANIC to die so i can spit on their grave
Anonymous No.717576425 >>717576608 >>717576794
>>717576208
um acktually each of the prequels villains represents an aspect of Darth Vader
>raw seething hate machine in Episode I
>fallen Jedi in Episode II
>mechanical monstrosity in Episode III
and it's kino. much like pottery, it all rhymes.
Anonymous No.717576608
>>717576425
Things like what you said are why my opinion of the prequels is more forgiving than the sequels, the prequels have alot of cool ideas even if it's not perfect, i can't say there's any cool ideas in the sequels tho
Anonymous No.717576610
>>717576241
Shaak Ti was taken out twice by Grevious and she was battling with Ki-Adi-Mundi the first time in a group.
Also the big reason why Anakin kills Dooku is his unga bunga style overwhelms Dooku's defensive stance, hard to say how strength vs strenth would go, especially when Grevious has an extra pair of arms assuming he uses them properly.
Anonymous No.717576636 >>717576753 >>717577074 >>717578202
>>717576215
>made her into a Nightsister for no good reason
Anonymous No.717576646
>>717569331 (OP)
Jedis cum!
Anonymous No.717576753 >>717576930 >>717577072
>>717576636
George's fat daughter thought it would be cool to put her wiccan fanfiction in Star Wars so Filoni and co went and raped the EU to make it happen.
Anonymous No.717576780 >>717576867
>>717569747
>>717570570
Isn't it more the other way around? Lucas was working on the movie, Genndy is doing his shorts and is handed the concept from Lucas, and then he decided "I'm gonna make him the coolest cyborg ever", possibly despite what Lucas told him.
Anonymous No.717576794
>>717576425
>raw seething hate machine
Maul doesn't have enough of a personality for that. He'd be the rabid-dog-on-a-leash Vader from ANH, physically intimidating but the film makes clear someone's got him under their thumb.
Anonymous No.717576862 >>717576990 >>717577029 >>717577143 >>717577768 >>717579372 >>717579889 >>717580876 >>717580939 >>717581319 >>717583513 >>717584939
How do you even revive Star Wars now as it is? I'm at a loss because 15 years ago this franchise printed money and was eternally talked about everywhere. Now? Theres no hatred for any of Disney's subversion, deconstruction or mediocrity, just apathy. A franchise that literally stated how "apathy is death" is now on the receiving end of it by former fans. Kids now don't even give a damn about Star Wars. Thats never happened to any generation until now.
Anonymous No.717576867 >>717577227
>>717576780
Not really because Lucas simply told Genndy and his crew that he's a cyborg general that collects lightsabers and showed him what he looked like and they went from there.
You would probably do the same thing with that information.
Anonymous No.717576930 >>717577072
>>717576753
TCW witches at least have some schmaltzy voodoo stuff going on. There's some pulpy aspect to it. Grievous steamrolling them was one of the highlights of the series. Acolyte is the real deal wiccan fanfic bullshit where they're trying to pretend it's cool and wise.
Anonymous No.717576990 >>717577037
>>717576862
>How do you even revive Star Wars now as it is?
You don't. You purge it clean and rebuild from there.
Anonymous No.717577029
>>717576862
It'll get rebooted eventually
Anonymous No.717577037
>>717576990
This. And all you have to do is get rid of everything involving Disney and Filoni.
Yes, that includes The Clone Wars. It was always shit.
Anonymous No.717577072
>>717576753
>>717576930
You guys got the shit Night Sisters
Anonymous No.717577074 >>717577115 >>717578202 >>717580029 >>717580184
>>717576636
it paid off though

and the nightsisters arc is one of the highlights of TCW
Anonymous No.717577115 >>717577289 >>717578202
>>717577074
These bitches are lore breaking and OP as shit, they're retarded.
Anonymous No.717577143
>>717576862
Make Rey into the new Sheev. An unrepentantly evil space hag Sith witch
Anonymous No.717577227 >>717577279
>>717576867
Depends on how "grounded" I wanted to be. It'd be more reasonable to have him do HK-47 tactics and collect the lightsabers as trophies after the fact instead of making him some cyborg terminator that's personally curbstomping Jedi.
Anonymous No.717577259 >>717577508
>>717572591
Grievous was specifically an ambush predator that relied on Jedi being too off guard to properly counter him. Dooku makes it clear that the second they get their shit together he needs to retreat.
Windu utterly fucked him up for this reason, and Vader would rip him to shreds for the fun of it if they ever met.

That said, it’s still a contradiction that he’s such a bitch in TCW, because Jedi almost never remember they can use the fucking force in that show.
Anonymous No.717577279
>>717577227
But he literally already does HK-47 tactics.
Anonymous No.717577289 >>717577474
>>717577115
only when filoni is writing them

nightsisters in TCW, dark disciple and jedi games are fine
Anonymous No.717577474 >>717577536 >>717577760
>>717577289
They weren't fine at all in TCW, what do you mean?
>actual voodoo dolls
>voodoo kamehamehas
>literal necromancy zombie armies
>technomancy
>can heal anyone's mind with just a touch
>can phase through objects
>can teleport items across the galaxy
>probably more bullshit I'm forgetting
They were OP as shit for no reason, more so than the Jedi and Sith combined, and I'm supposed to believe Grievous is their hard counter?
Anonymous No.717577508 >>717577996
>>717577259
Jedi almost never "remember" to use the Force in the movies as well. Because the Force is not a videogame ability that the player can use by pressing 'F' on their keyboard at any time from the comfort of their gaming chair. Characters are actually there, in the middle of the action fighting for their lives. It requires concentration and effort. Not to mention the meta filmmaking reason, such as providing spectacle for the audience. You are severely autistic if you can't grasp such basic concepts. You think a bunch of dogshit lore and everything being over explained and quantified in easily digestible powerscale numbers makes for good and entertaining storytelling. "Character A has 95 force points and he is the master of lightsaber form 1488 that counters form 69, therefore character A ALWAYS wins, and if not it's bad writing!!1!" For anyone who's not autistic or brown, it's not a good storytelling. Sorry that happened to you.
Anonymous No.717577536
>>717577474
Oh I also forgot that the fucked up the idea that they were some sort of Force users that mistook the Force for magic like in the original EU version, but no, they just use straight up magic.
Anonymous No.717577760 >>717577850
>>717577474
Only Talzin could do that and a few elders. Talzin was ancient and powerful, even Sidious was originally friends with her. But even so, their magic is just an illusion, it is severely limited and requires physical conduits, rituals and potions, and it is nowhere near as powerful as the Force. Sidious or Vader being able to force choke someone across the galaxy or see the future is infinitely more impressive.
Anonymous No.717577768 >>717580939
>>717576862
you cant. zoomers only went and saw the minecraft movie because it was a meme. cinema will die and hollywood will only exist to make slop for netflix and prime.
Anonymous No.717577850 >>717578046
>>717577760
>erm, the Force is actually stronger than raising the dead to fight or you because the literal chosen one gave someone a throat tickle over Skype
Coulda fooled me.
Anonymous No.717577996
>>717577508
Thing is most normalfags think they should be ragdolling everything with TK or doing 40 foot tall leaps or running 50MPH. They don't understand that:
>Jedi are using precog a Force ability in every conflict or the prelude to conflict
>Jedi are always moving faster than their foes unless that foe can match their speed or they get a lucky or precise hit in
>Force push or pull or lightning requires again, concentration
Anonymous No.717578046 >>717578154 >>717578235 >>717578531 >>717578912
>>717577850
Yeah, puppeteering a bunch of rotten corpses is merely a pointless distraction and isn't a real obstacle for any actual army, and it is easily countered with a lightsaber through the gut of the old frail granny witch doing the puppeteering, which makes the corpses immediately fall, as it was shown. It is nothing compared to being able to break someone's neck across the entire galaxy with the power of your mind, or seeing the future and acting on it.
Anonymous No.717578154 >>717578324
>>717578046
nta but as I said, the nightsisters in TCW were fine

filoni nightsisters (i.e ahsoka) are bullshit
>teleport items between galaxies
>can find anyone anywhere just because you can
>can raise the dead without needing a full ritual like old daka and can just leave and the zombies still work, don't even need to concentrate on the spell
Anonymous No.717578186 >>717579224
They had Ventress do Dark Side necromancy before the show
Anonymous No.717578202 >>717578310 >>717578313 >>717578353
>>717576636
>>717577074
>>717577115
qrd on night sisters?
Anonymous No.717578235 >>717578431
>>717578046
So there's no point in even regarding them as legitimate threats in the first place if they're so easy to take out. They're just fodder made to job and all it took was retconning an entire race, planet and an actual interesting faction of Force wielders. Bravo.
Anonymous No.717578289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBOoZ5Tuh2o
Anonymous No.717578310 >>717581312
>>717578202
space wiccan voodoo magic users who dont use the force but use force-based magic (called magick)
isolationist, subjugate the male nightbrother clan (where darth maul comes from)
they can't actually use the force like the jedi or sith, only ventress can do that because she's naturally force sensitive

they almost all got wiped out by general grievous in TCW
Anonymous No.717578313
>>717578202
Non-Sith/Jedi all female Darksiders from a planet called Dathomir
Anonymous No.717578324 >>717578482
>>717578154
You also said Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor was okay. It was not. Merrin is bullshit Force Unleashed tier. She is not some elder, like Talzin. She is a regular pleb nightsister, who at best could participate in the rituals of the elders. At least "Ahsoka" Nightsisters were clearly ancient and powerful, clearly on par with Talzin herself.
Anonymous No.717578353
>>717578202
Gay faction of space witches made for Tumblr girls mad at their Christian parents.
Anonymous No.717578390
>had the perfect excuse to remaster the Ep 3 game with the movie's 20th anniversary
>remaster fucking Jedi Power Battles instead
Anonymous No.717578410
>>717572591
>if we only had Glendy's Grevious, you would most certainly have people, and rightfully so claiming he could beat Vader.
I don't see how. The idea that Dooku could so easily handle him, but that Vader, a superior duelist and force user, would be overwhelmed is a stretch. Genndy Wars makes it clear that Grevious needs surprise, fear and panic to properly do his thing. Vader is immune to the latter two, and the first can be compensated for by pure skill and mental control
Anonymous No.717578431 >>717578536 >>717578545
>>717578235
They are threats, and they have exotic, useful knowledge. Which is why Sidious was friends with Talzin in his youth, and later eliminated her so that she could not interfere with his plans. Hell, Talzin almost killed Dooku. But they are not "more powerful than the Jedi and Sith combined", as you claimed initially. Their power is, in fact, quite limited, raw and primitive, compared to the Force and the knowledge of Jedi and Sith. But it doesn't matter, you are not here to think rationally and without a bias. You are set on hating no matter what, so who cares.
Anonymous No.717578482 >>717578681
>>717578324
>makes a ship invisible (specifically calls upon the nightsisters in the afterlife to help her do that)
>buries a guy
>can teleport short distances
>uses an artifact and calls upon the nightsisters of the afterlife to raise the dead and almost collapses from doing so

it's a bit bullshit because it's entirely reliant on "the nightsisters have power from beyond the grave:" thats not really defined
Anonymous No.717578531 >>717578726
>>717578046
Man its cartoonish how many 'battles' are just people standing in spitting distance of each other missing horrifically
Anonymous No.717578536 >>717578746 >>717578910
>>717578431
Yeah, I'm a hater on shit that sucks and TCW's nightsisters suck shit, it's that simple.
Anonymous No.717578545
>>717578431
>and later eliminated her so that she could not interfere with his plans
>eliminated her
anon how do I put this....
Anonymous No.717578618 >>717578643 >>717578723
>>717573669
How come they all can't force crush him where he stands like Mace Windu did?
Anonymous No.717578626
>>717573683
Made for golden bikini's and slave attire in grievous' lair.
Anonymous No.717578643
>>717578618
They're tired and unfocused.
Anonymous No.717578681
>>717578482
She has ALL of Talzin's powers and MORE. She is Talzin on steroids. That entire sequence in Jedi Survivor where she was fucking up giant octopus droids was as batshit insane as anything in Force Unleashed, and even Talzin never did anything like that. It's not a "bit" bullshit, it's bullshit to the max. And I have no idea why you try to argue otherwise. Talzin was very ancient LEADER of the entire coven and established as the most powerful of them all. It was clear that only few old Nightsisters had knowledge of the magic. Merrin is very young, she was merely a child when the massacre happens, yet she knows all of these techniques. It doesn't make much sense.
Anonymous No.717578723
>>717578618
I thought a power like that would be dark side shit anyway

Mace and his purple sword always seem to skirt a line, they did deliberately cast an actor who just naturally seems always angry
Anonymous No.717578726 >>717578786
>>717578531
All of Star Wars is like that.
Anonymous No.717578745
>>717573995
So with the thousands of years of high technology development of the Galatic Republic, and they're still only on the level of early cyberpunk augments? Adam Smasher doesn't have any of these problems.
Anonymous No.717578746
>>717578536
based
Anonymous No.717578786 >>717579042
>>717578726
At least in ESB you had guys in trenches and they had armored vehicles sent to uproot them

If it was Clone Wars it would have been just loads of Storm Troopers on foot instead
Anonymous No.717578910 >>717578978
>>717578536
That's fine. Don't pretend like you have some "objective" critiques, when you clearly don't even know what you're talking about, and don't even have a cohesive argument.
>uh, nightsisters suck, they are so freaking OP, more powerful than anyone!!!
>they are actually not, here's why
>heh, they are a bunch of fucking jobbers non-threats, they SUCK!
Anonymous No.717578912
>>717578046
God I hate how this shit is framed. Everything is either a zoom shot or some sort of moving shot, it looks like ass.
Anonymous No.717578978
>>717578910
Damn, not liking your bullshit witches rattled you pretty bad.
Anonymous No.717579042
>>717578786
>organized militaries in ESB used military tactics
>wtf, how come a bunch of isolationist witches who aren't military don't????
>droids just swarm everyone with numbers and walk into the enemy, as it was shown a million times
I don't see a problem. Clones use trenches and cover and vehicles in the show as well.
Anonymous No.717579069 >>717579121 >>717580419
>>717573683
Comic version was better
Anonymous No.717579121 >>717579174 >>717579234 >>717580419
>>717579069
>this is what zoomers find attractive
Anonymous No.717579174 >>717579267 >>717580839
>>717579121
black ahsoka was a mistake
Anonymous No.717579224
>>717578186
Featuring a cameo by Durge from the hit video game Balder's Gate 3!
Anonymous No.717579234 >>717579741
>>717579121
Based zoomers.
Anonymous No.717579267
>>717579174
Ahsoka was a mistake.
Anonymous No.717579372
>>717576862
It's safe slop to wring money out of late zoomers to early gen xers with stormtrooper and vader merch. Disney is incapable of committing to a single franchise for more than short bursts and isn't ever letting go of the IP.
Going the Games Workshop route of giving licenses to anyone who asks is the only way of reviving it.
Anonymous No.717579741 >>717579767 >>717579969
>>717579234
>posts a fan model not an official depiction
Anonymous No.717579767
>>717579741
Ahsokoomers are retarded.
In other news, water is wet.
Anonymous No.717579889 >>717579983
>>717576862
Fire all the fuckers that's been in charge of Star Wars since Disney bought it. Refocus the universe to old republic type eras, so that they can actually make something that isn't dependent on the OT or PT eras. That'll free them up to do what they want, making characters and conflicts that are interesting on their own merits instead of depending on old, tired plots and characters. Oh, and don't make it complete garbage like Acolyte
Anonymous No.717579969 >>717580017
>>717579741
This model is based on the one from Season 7 as close as possible. In fact, the one in the show was much hotter. This is just a replication, it looks a tad bit off in places, but otherwise it's fairly accurate. That guy (airress) makes quite good models. Shame he went with Tales of the Empire bogged Barriss, though.
Anonymous No.717579983 >>717580206
>>717579889
>actually make something that isn't dependent on the OT or PT eras
You mean the High Republic?
Anonymous No.717580013 >>717580246
>>717573995
>be Grievous
>be grievously ill
BRAVO GEORGE
Anonymous No.717580017 >>717580139
>>717579969
cool, now post ahsoka in live action
Anonymous No.717580029
>>717577074
More like night shitters LOL
Anonymous No.717580139
>>717580017
Please don't.
Anonymous No.717580184
>>717577074
Ahaha are those laser bows
Anonymous No.717580206 >>717580387
>>717579983
Sure, or however far back you want to go. But they need to expand their universe beyond the Skywalker era
Anonymous No.717580220
>>717575276
This is what would've happened to her early on in season 1 if she didn't have plot armor.
Anonymous No.717580246 >>717580704 >>717586020
>>717580013
>Greedo
>is greedy
>Han Solo
>is selfish and thinks only for himself
>Skywalker
>master pilot, walks the skies
>Darth Vader
>invades Leia's ship
>Darth Sidious
>is insidious
>Darth Tyranus
>is a tyrant
>Savage Opress
>is a savage who was oppressed and became the oppressor
George-sama....
Anonymous No.717580387 >>717581663
>>717580206
High Republic is the Disney EU pre-PT era setting

Pretty sure PT-OT era is the only stuff that sells though
Anonymous No.717580419
>>717579069
>>717579121
my ancestor :)
Anonymous No.717580450
>>717569747
His retreats are always tactical. Buddy doesn’t want to get merced by a Jedi when his whole schtick is hunting down Jedi. He’s got to be careful.
Anonymous No.717580704 >>717580863
>>717580246
You missed the classic
>Darth Vader
>Vader is dutch for 'Father'
Anonymous No.717580743 >>717580831 >>717580863
What's the meaning behind Maul's name then
Anonymous No.717580831
>>717580743
>mauls Quigon
Anonymous No.717580839 >>717581381
>>717579174
Ashoka was black from day 1, just look at the nose and lips
Anonymous No.717580863
>>717580704
I think that's just a coincidence. Vader was not yet Anakin Skywalker in the first movie, and hence he was not the father of Luke. That only happened in late drafts of ESB. He was a "young Jedi named Darth Vader", which really probably meant "invader" since the first thing he did in the movie was invade the ship.
>>717580743
>Maul
>mauls Qui-Gon
Anonymous No.717580876 >>717587056
>>717576862
Star Wars is constantly trying to β€œreturn to its roots” by cycling back to the OT, because the masses consider that to be the purest essence of Star Wars. And that may be the case, but the issue then becomes that no one understands the OT. And so they can borrow characters and designs and aesthetics from the OT, but they never capture the essence of the OT as being a mythological/ fantasy tale centered around Luke. Instead we get endless reruns of nothing non-characters fighting stormtroopers.
The real way that Star Wars could be fixed is to make it an anthology of unconnected heroic myths set in space. And for fuckssake please make the people who wrote these movies actually read a real ancient epic poem or saga before they start hashing out ideas, because you can’t convince me that anyone who serves in any writing capacity at Disney has ever read anything more complex than fucking Harry Potter
Anonymous No.717580939
>>717576862
>>717577768
alt timeline movie of mid aged hayden anakin and old man ewan obi-wan having adventures together in a galaxy that defeated the sith before order 66
filled to the brim with prequel memes to appeal to the zoomers
Anonymous No.717581042
>>717573683
She was a good friend
Anonymous No.717581058 >>717581185 >>717581349 >>717581446 >>717584656
How come picrelated worked while the Sequels (and most of D*sneywars) didn't?
Anonymous No.717581185 >>717581246
>>717581058
Why is Carth a fish person?
Anonymous No.717581246
>>717581185
Fishing for answers
Anonymous No.717581312
>>717578310
These are the same as the ones from EAW FOC?
Anonymous No.717581319 >>717581653
>>717576862
I think starting a new prequel era focusing on Sith like Ajunta Pall, Revan, or Bane is the only thing that can make this franchise feel fresh again.
High Republic era could have worked if The ACKolyte wasn’t so horribly fumbled. Really they could have just adapted Darth Plagueis novel and people would have loved it.
Anonymous No.717581349 >>717581445
>>717581058
KOTOR had the benefit of being far removed from the main story and not really affecting it in any way. But both KOTOR and the Sequels share a lot of similar problems, if you were to look at it objectively. It's just that KOTOR was a videogame, so a lot can be forgiven just on this basis, it was the first Star Wars RPG and a lot of people played it when they were children, and thus formed personal connection with their self-insert characters and the story.
Anonymous No.717581381 >>717581881
>>717580839
>just look and the nose and lips from stylized TCW animation
by that logic, ventress' neck is supposed to be a foot long because it is in TCW
Anonymous No.717581442 >>717581530
>>717576215
She was hot but I don't like bald girls
Anonymous No.717581445 >>717581618
>>717581349
>But both KOTOR and the Sequels share a lot of similar problems
Such as?
Anonymous No.717581446 >>717581490
>>717581058
Revan is cool.
Rey is lame and an ugly woman.
Anonymous No.717581490
>>717581446
hear hear
Anonymous No.717581530 >>717581584
>>717581442
she has hair now
Anonymous No.717581584
>>717581530
Looked better before
Anonymous No.717581618 >>717581983 >>717582361
>>717581445
Uninspired, recycled designs from the movies, despite being set 4000 years in the past. Recycled plot points and character archetypes from the movies. KOTOR could have definitely looked more unique than it did. Tales of the Jedi comic books certainly were different. And they could definitely be less obvious about the recycled plot points and planets. It's less of a problem with 2, but it is unbearable in 1 once you notice this.
Anonymous No.717581653
>>717581319
>they could have just adapted Darth Plagueis novel
The Andor team would do a great job at this
Too bad Disney is too proud to actually adapt EU material instead of just copying/stealing ideas
Anonymous No.717581663
>>717580387
>Pretty sure PT-OT era is the only stuff that sells though
How could anything else sell, when Disney focuses 90% of its Star Wars media around that era? The only cinematic thing they've made that takes place before the prequels was the Acolyte. Problem is that Acolyte was utter shit, but the premise still got a lot of people to watch the first episode
Anonymous No.717581881 >>717582774
>>717581381
Ventress always looked like one of these negress with tall neck from Africa but paint white and makes completely sense considering George Lucas' wife
Anonymous No.717581983 >>717582689 >>717583128 >>717583429
>>717581618
>Uninspired
Not an argument, just your subjective opinion.
>recycled designs from the movies
You're thinking of SWTOR
>Recycled archetypes from the movies
Archetypes are meant to be recycled.
>Planets
Only Tatooine was reused in K1, you disingenous faggot
>Recycled plot points
This one is 100% true, I also liked it in ANH when Luke Skywalker (whose amnesia prevents him from realizing he is Darth Vader) wakes up on a star ship being raided by Sith forces so he hops on an escape pod to Coruscant to win an illegal swoop race against alien thug niggas to complete his high priority government-assigned mission of liberating an enslaved Jedi teenager so she can teach age 30+ Luke the ways of the Force to aid them in the search for ancient maps across the stars in order to find a semi-sentient Dark Side artifact powered by a literal star that was constructed by a long forgotten ancestor race, and get steamy in the cargo hold and sheit.
>Tales of the Jedi comic books certainly were different
TotJ art style was wildly inconsistent and just plain bad most of the time. Bioware did the right thing by making the aesthetics more streamlined and recognizable.
Anonymous No.717582309
>>717569747
Sorry but I can't take him serious with that voice.
Anonymous No.717582361 >>717582689
>>717581618
>Recycled plot points
this is how i know this is bait lol
Anonymous No.717582402
>>717574659
which means it is always rape, so anon is even more correct.
Anonymous No.717582689 >>717582767
>>717581983
>>717582361
>begins with a space battle, ripping off the beginning of A New Hope.
>Sith troopers board the Endar Spire led by Darth Bandon, ripping off Darth Vader and his stormtroopers boarding Tantive IV
>The heroes crash into the planet below using escape pods, ripping off 3PO and R2 crashing onto Tatooine
>Revan and Carth set out to rescue Bastila - ripping off Han and Luke setting out to rescue Princess Leia
>Revan meets a morally ambiguous scoundrel, who works for a crime lord, in a cantina - ripping off Luke meeting Han for the first time
>Bastila is captured and enslaved by the Black Vulkars - ripping off Leia being captured and enslaved by Jabba the Hutt
>The Sith fleet destroy Taris - ripping off the Death Star destroying Alderaan
>Darth Malak hires Calo Nord to track down the Ebon Hawk - ripping off Darth Vader hiring Boba Fett to track down the Millennium Falcon
>Revan meets a wise old hermit, Jolee, in the woods of Kashyyyk - ripping off Luke meeting Yoda on Dagobah
>The Ebon Hawk is captured by the Leviathan - ripping off the Death Star capturing the Millennium Falcon
>Revan is asked where the Jedi Enclave is. Revan says "Alderaan. They're on Alderaan" in order to protect Dantooine - ripping off the moment when Leia said "Dantooine. They're on Dantooine" in order to protect Alderaan
>Darth Malak reveals that Revan was once the Dark Lord of the Sith, ripping off Darth Vader revealing that he is Luke's father
>Bastila sacrifices herself so the Ebon Hawk crew can escape - ripping off Obi-Wan sacrificing himself so the Millennium Falcon crew can escape
>The Ebon Hawk crew lands on a moon beneath the Star Forge to disable its deflector shield - ripping off the Millennium Falcon crew landing on a moon beneath the Death Star to disable its deflector shield
>Malak = budget Darth Vader
>star forge = totally not the Death Star
>literal yoda
>Carth = Han Solo but lame
>Bastila = female obi wan
>T3 = budget r2d2
>HK47 = C3PO but edgy
>literal Chewbacca
Anonymous No.717582767
>>717582689
>rips off the films aesthetics entirely despite being set 4k years before
>Opens with Sith shooting down a Republic ship with their target getting away in an escape pod
>Hero is told they have to find a Jedi
>Heroes meet scoundrel+wookie duo in cantina
>Hero has to win a swoop race to free someone from captivity
>Female lead is captured, but breaks free and kills her capturer
>Hero is told they're force-sensitive and this is why they're so good at swoop racing
>Heroes meet a guy in a Cantina who offers access to a ship off-planet, which is named after a bird, supposedly the fastest in the sector and described by the owner as not looking like much
>Hero taken to Jedi Council for training, although some Jedi reluctant to do so due to "person's age"
>Yoda clone
>Astromech droid and protocol droid that bicker with each other
>Sith hire bounty hunter to kill heroes
>Hero built their own protocol droid
>Old Jedi living as a hermit joins the hero
>Awkward personality droid translates Sand People speech for heroes
>Underwater section with a giant fish wreaking havoc
>Kolto, a healing fluid that's a precursor to bacta
>Ship caught in tractor beam. Crew plan "alternatives to fighting" before being taken in, but end up fighting anyway
>Heroes run around to disable the necessary systems so that the ship can escape
>Villain is disfigured Sith Lord with cybernetic parts
>Villain makes surprise appearance. Han Solo type tries to shoot him and fails
>"I'm your Father" type reveal. Jedi friend knew
>Jedi friend stays behind to fight main bad guy so that others may escape
>Main threat is a weaponized space station
>Republic/Sith square off in front of space station that's being protected by a shield generator disruptor field on a nearby world
>Heroes disable disruptor field, defeating the Sith who were waiting for them
>Hero/villain fight in observation deck overlooking said Republic/Sith battle
>Ends with award ceremony
Anonymous No.717582774
>>717581881
for some of the EU stuff, yes (e.g dark rendezvous cover) but she was depicted as white in a lot of the republic comics

for canon, no, she is almost always depicted as white and clearly intended to be a white woman painted grey
they even shortened her neck due to slight animation artstyle changes
Anonymous No.717583128
>>717581983
>Not an argument, just your subjective opinion.
It is an argument, and it is objective. There is no reason for the Empire to look almost exactly the same as OT Empire, flying triangular-shaped Star Destroyers, having TIE-fighter looking fighters, having plastic armored troopers, for the Republic to have Tantive IV looking soldiers, and for everything in general to look just like a worse version of the movie design.
>You're thinking of SWTOR
No, I am thinking about KOTOR. SWTOR continued that trend and worsened it.
>Archetypes are meant to be recycled.
Not when they are in the same plot points. Then it's stealing.
>Only Tatooine was reused in K1, you disingenous faggot
Tatooine, Taris was budget Coruscant, Kashyyyk.
>This one is 100% true
Glad you agree.
>TotJ art style was wildly inconsistent and just plain bad most of the time. Bioware did the right thing by making the aesthetics more streamlined and recognizable.
It was more interesting, creative, unique, and it was more ancient. It suited the 4k in the past period much better. But Bioware ditched something interesting and opted out for recognizable Star Wars look, despite it making no sense whatsoever.

Also note, that if you applied your logic consistently, you could defend the sequels in the same manner. So why is it okay when KOTOR did it, but not the sequels? Both have similar flaws.
Anonymous No.717583429 >>717583682
>>717581983
You're arguing with the known "totj was better because it just was" shitposter, don't sweat it and just ignore next time.
Anonymous No.717583513 >>717583687
>>717576862
>How do you even revive Star Wars
I'm a secondary in SW lore but ... maybe adapt Jedi Knight or Kotor/Mandalorian wars.

Hell you could adapt OG Jedi vs Sith wars and the do a couple of epiologue episodes leading to Darth Plaeguis/Sidious


The problem isn't a lack of choices but the skill of the directors and writers being utter completely shit
Anonymous No.717583557
>>717571841
Dark Empire was originally going to be a Force User masquerading as Vader. Lucas had the same reaction and instead suggested resurrecting Palpatine.
Anonymous No.717583668
filoni will remake KOTOR to put ahsoka in it via the world between worlds

non zero chance this will happen
Anonymous No.717583682 >>717584249
>>717583429
TOTJ was a million times better than KOTOR. TOTJ was incredibly creative and it was one of the greatest things EU did. You will never be Revan.
Anonymous No.717583687
>>717583513
>maybe adapt Jedi Knight or Kotor/Mandalorian wars.
No. Just no. If there's one thing Shitsney did right, keeping their hands away from the most beloved EU stories (well, mostly) is definitely the one.
Anonymous No.717584249
>>717583682
Totj looked like ass and was incredibly forgettable which is why only a select few autists like you still remember it.
Dark Empire at least had good artstyle and memorable stuff in it despite being a lore-breaking pile of steamy shit.
Anonymous No.717584583
>>717569747
George Lucas is on record saying that he wanted to create a arch droid villain that ran away when he begins to lose ground. I'm of the opinion that Tartakovsky didn't get the full memo and made he a complete fucking badass.

Also, does anyone else here dislike General Grievous having four arms? I think Tartakovsky's depiction of him using his feet to wield lightsabers is way cooler. Grievous' first combat scene in Clone Wars is still his best to date. He's more a horror villain in that.
Anonymous No.717584656
>>717581058
Far removed from the main timeline and actually well-made. KOTORs, along with the Jedi Outcast/Academy, Battlefronts and EaW were some of the best Star Wars games ever made. We never appreciated that time enough.
Anonymous No.717584742
I enjoy the "boss battle" against Grevious in Battlefront 2 because you can just Force Push him off the edge of the hangar as soon as he spawns and kill him instantly. They tried.
Anonymous No.717584939
>>717576862
>How do you even revive Star Wars now as it is?
How about stories that have no member berries.
Anonymous No.717585068 >>717585297 >>717585381 >>717585439
We need a Game of Thrones-like series based on George Lucas's story for the pre-movies Galaxy. Rivaling Sith Lords fighting and scheming against each other in a Galaxy consumed by darkness, until they all kill each other and only Darth Bane remains.
Anonymous No.717585297 >>717585352 >>717585496
>>717585068
Jedi and Sith wars are stale and have been done to death. That's not going to revitalize the brand. Think of something fresh that hasn't been done instead.
Anonymous No.717585352 >>717585426
>>717585297
At least post a real map next time
Anonymous No.717585381
>>717585068
How could the Sith have ruled the galaxy when the Jedi defended the Republic for a thousand generations?
Anonymous No.717585426 >>717585502
>>717585352
That's the official up-to-date map though.
Anonymous No.717585439
>>717585068
Man, I'm glad Lucas doesn't have a creative hold over Star Wars anymore. Now, if we could only get rid of Shitsney as well...
Anonymous No.717585496 >>717585568 >>717585838
>>717585297
>Think of something fresh that hasn't been done instead.
The Vong were exactly that but people hate them for being too different.
Anonymous No.717585502 >>717585642
>>717585426
>official
Anonymous No.717585568
>>717585496
NJO and the Vong Invasion was a great idea executed poorly (many such cases). It had a few good entries but it could've benefitted a lot more from having 2-3 writers max in order to make it more consistent.
Anonymous No.717585642 >>717585924
>>717585502
https://www.starwars.com/star-wars-galaxy-map
Anonymous No.717585838 >>717585975 >>717586167
>>717585496
>The Vong were exactly that but people hate them for being too different.
That was a different time compared to now, plus it still has the issue of the original cast being part of the story. The issue with giving the original cast never ending adventures is that every victory they achieve doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The war is never ending, meaning they're nothing but a footnote in Star Wars.
Anonymous No.717585924 >>717586078
>>717585642
>using anything produced by Yidsney as official
Embarassing
Anonymous No.717585975 >>717586158
>>717585838
>he issue with giving the original cast never ending adventures is that every victory they achieve doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
George forbid to kill off or retire the main trio so there's that.
Anonymous No.717586020 >>717586210 >>717586253
>>717580246
Clone Wars 3D is filled with loads of that shit
>We need a morally evil guy what should we call him???.....................Hmmmmmmmm how about Moralo Eval? Yeah that's good
Anonymous No.717586078 >>717586147
>>717585924
No amount of denial is going to change the fact the map is canon. Cope.
Anonymous No.717586147
>>717586078
>accepting Yidsneyshit as canon
you do you, filonijew
Anonymous No.717586158 >>717586308
>>717585975
>George forbid to kill off or retire the main trio so there's that.

Nothing stopping writers doing Star Wars stories five hundred years into the future when all the main cast has died through old age.
Anonymous No.717586167 >>717586369
>>717585838
>Star Wars
>wars keep happening
Anonymous No.717586210
>>717586020
>Elan Sleazebaggano
Anonymous No.717586253 >>717586357
>>717586020
Memorable and pointy name. Much better than some gibberish, convoluted, utterly meaningless crap like Mitth'raw'nuruodo or whatever. Perhaps you just hate Star Wars.
Anonymous No.717586308 >>717586519 >>717586552 >>717587794
>>717586158
>Nothing stopping writers doing Star Wars stories five hundred years into the future when all the main cast has died through old age.
No one wanted that at the time. KOTOR was an exceptionally well executed fluke that still relied on familiar archetypes and homages to OT.
Although ngl the idea of Knight of the New Republic sounds neat
Anonymous No.717586357
>>717586253
>alien names from a distant Galaxy sound weird and alien
W O W
Anonymous No.717586369
>>717586167
They're stories above everything else. That means they all should have satisfactory character arcs with endings. If you want never ending drivel, go watch a TV soap instead.
Anonymous No.717586469
>>717569331 (OP)
>spamming greivous' grapple until my little brother cries

good times
Anonymous No.717586481
>>717572938
I always hated this reason for Grievous' coughing in Episode 3. There were so many opportunities to do this and more to him every since grievous first showed up.
Anonymous No.717586519
>>717586308
>No one wanted that at the time
I know, but we don't live in those times anymore because we're already saturated with that era of stories.
Anonymous No.717586552
>>717586308
>Knight of the New Republic
We already have that. It's called Jedi Academy.
Anonymous No.717587056
>>717580876
Finally someone with a brain but ignored
You could just easily copy… i mean β€˜adapt’ classical epics, myths but with star war aesthetic and you will got banks
Like
>king arthur but starwar
>hamlet but starwar
>odyssey bur starwar
Etc
Shit, it is so easy when you think about it
Anonymous No.717587325 >>717587689
Anonymous No.717587384 >>717587689
Anonymous No.717587689
>>717587325
>>717587384
>ai slop
Anonymous No.717587794 >>717588237
>>717586308
>No one wanted that at the time
Ahem.
Anonymous No.717588237 >>717590298 >>717590606
>>717587794
Case in point. Legacy era (and Legacy comics in particular) were utter trash, and the only thing worth of note they managed to produce was the porn bait Darth Talon.
Anonymous No.717589521 >>717589654
Anonymous No.717589654
>>717571692
>>717589521
Anonymous No.717590298
>>717588237
>the only thing worth of note they managed to produce was the porn bait Darth Talon
Then they are good friends.

https://files.catbox.moe/cqqgzp.webm
Anonymous No.717590606 >>717592172
>>717588237
Cade was based.
Anonymous No.717592172
>>717590606
Based on whom?