Thread 717594296

Cheap fanpandering won't dave FF14.

>crippled
>humiliated
>needs to literally spell out to players that she WON'T return in future adventures

https://youtu.be/dEUQhJWTJJE?si=vA-B6YC-_2w4dDum

This felt gratuitious and pathetic.

God dawntrail is so awful i haven’t even finished the MSQ yet and im thinking of trying WoW

>>717594296 (OP)
wont play it again unless zenos comes back and kills her on screen

>>717594296 (OP)
What you describe is what was needed
She's better a couple weeks later anyway
I've been looking for a compilation of each jobs animation in that Cutscene though so thanks fag, alas it's well past bedtime for me so I'll have to watch it tomorrow

>>717594857
The patches are good
Well plot wise anyway, 7.2 ruined black mage, Wuk is maybe still slightly too present in 7.1 but it's bearable

>>717594296 (OP)
>>crippled
>>humiliated
This literally didn't happen no matter how much you headcanon this shit
I fucking WISH it happened the way you fags make it sound on here

Broke Lament

>>717594296 (OP)
if you're wondering, Wuk is outside of the gate to the palace courtyard watching Gulool Ja swing a sword

>Reoccuring thread since patch release
This is literally a general. Which you guys have, but you guys allowed coombrains to take over it.

predicting the thread:

>bitching about wuk (or apparently now its bitching that wuk is gone?)
>bitching about writers (he has two favorites i believe)
>bitching about modern outfits
>steam player numbers (or other retarded player metrics)
>bait dumping (usually gets him autosaged/banned)
>chatGPT tier arguments with himself

did i miss anything?

The excel site shows the clear numbers for current tier but you have to check the numbers for 4.2 on a character that has done it to see how many clears there were and I'm not gonna post my character here. If you want you can type some streamers char and see yourself.

Having all the difficulty and design on encounter also means that it’s worse to PF because there is more fail points

In SB if you had decent supports you could almost (I’m exaggerating but you get the point) Zerg your way to enrage then kinda prog at your own pace. Now it’s a series of tests you have to pass one by one

Sometimes you’d get lucky and get a competant group who could clear you even if you yourself weren’t fully ready but also not actually bad

Honestly the best comparison in the modern day to old prog design is arguably forked tower and for all its faults forked is quite fun to prog

>>717598443
Truly I wonder why the jannies comb these days and hand out 3 days like candy when you make a XIV op
Little buddy will eat it and ban evade like he always does with his chat GPT ass post

>>717598492
You forgot the /co/ tourist who doesn't actually play the game hyperventilating when people criticize Wuk or Kate or anything about Dawntrail.

QRD on this character? Is it a tranny?

>>717598153
/squats

>>717599174
no but the english va is

>>717598492
he was obsessed with cash shop items as well, also complains about “modbeasts”. basically anything that can be taken in bad faith and shitposted about.

"What do you all think? Is the difficulty a step in the right direction, or is it simply too much for some players to handle?"

The question should not be about whether it's difficult now. It should be how difficult will it still be in the next weeks.

>>717599174
One of her four voice actors is a tranny. She's just kind of overbearing and says trite things

>>717599332
People crying about the video game being a video game should be rightfully filtered and sent packing to youtube.

>>717598443
The game is actually discussed here unlike in /xivg/

>>717598492
oh yeah also he’s obsessed with one voice actor in particular, see above posts

>>717598443
A general isn't a reoccurring topic, it's a reoccurring THREAD.

>>717599134
Wuk is a bad character.
Simple as.
If she was a good character then she wouldn't be universally hated, but she is only liked by literal trannies to "own da chuds."

never played before i'm a level 28 sprout people keep coming up to me and patting my head and its making me feel funny

>>717599649
The resident Wuk defender actually does it because he's attracted to animals.

My entire party wiped first try cause nobody noticed the flamers on the side were targetable. I think we all assumed it's just an extra mechanic being added to the thing the boss was already doing, maybe even a soft-time limit due to the damage ticks.

We died, noticed you can destroy them and then it was solved. Plenty people even got hit by avoidable damage during the second attempt but the healer has everyone in range and you can get hit like 3 times before dying, so this whole boss turns out to be very lenient

>>717599872
You'd get a lot more of that if Wuk weren't so goddamn ugly, even by furry standards.

>>717600015
He also has a fetish for male voices.

>>717599837
They’re attempting to groom you, don’t fall for it.

>>717598443
Okay, but if that's a problem then janny should autosage the master duel threads and dall-e threads too.

What did YOU (yes YOU) do in Final Fantasy today?
I tried to catch a fish, but I didn't get a bite. Bad luck with fish lately.

Shifted to the artbook persona on cue

>>717600289
I'm not a fan of Persona, personally. I like mainline SMT. This is a Final Fantasy thread though, so what did you do in Final Fantasy today?

This is important

>>717600392
what did YOU do? last time i played i got this cutscene

Clean it up janny.

>>717600494
I already said but I tried to catch a fish and it didn't bite. I'm gonna try Necron EX later.

>>717600392
completed 7.3 story, logged out, unsubbed

He's gonna change to the fat hrothgar next

We're only missing the google doc post, who's going to take a vacation for it?

>>717600658
So glad I'm waiting for the inevitable free login campaign to happen. Actually that is the only way I'm playing this game now.

>>717600839
Why, don't want to do it yourself?

>>717600889
I want to be able to keep posting.

>>717600658
Understandable.

Wuk la sex

Why did they reference Far Edge of Fate in the EW trailer anyway?

>>717598492
artbook dumping

>>717601362
Do you not like Final Fantasy XIV art?
Did you try the new hypnoslots?

>>717598492
I still have a feeling that Wuk Lamat could make a sudden comeback with 7.4

>>717601443
i don't wanna do the hypnoslots. don't wanna turn into a sissy

>>717601590
You can get the yan mount and the energy drinks...

>>717594296 (OP)
Who's Dave?

They turned on housing demo so maybe I'll come back and actually finish 7.0

>>717601732
yo

>>717601732
Dave from Dave's

>>717601805
Housing demo has been on for awhile you probably already lost your house.

There's 12 unique IPs in this thread janitor. He has made 80% of the posts in this thread janitor

>>717601732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWmV0KvBlTw

>>717601548
I will uninstall and shit on this game forever if that happens

>>717594857
>first reply is a seething wowcuck
thanks for invalidating any future "lmao wow out of nowhere", retard

>>717600839
never seen anyone banned for posting the doccy, have seen the dumper get banned a few times though. especially hilarious when he gets IP wiped and you see the sheer amount of samefagging he does

>>717602401
Got banned for it last time I posted it.

>>717594296 (OP)
is that how calyx sounds in english? not bad
who's the VA?

What is the generic art dump supposed to do? Make someone angry? I don't get it.

>>717602586
get to archive quicker

>>717601921
This dude using plugins for his 4chan

>>717602543
Calyx sounds great in English, I like him.
>>717602586
Some people get very, very angry when you talk about FFXIV or post FFXIV images for some reason. Isn't that strange?

>>717602675
Is he aware another thread can be made?

>>717602743
I'd say its more that at this point using the same official art is an avatar signature.

>>717600123
but i like the headpats it makes me feel cute and small

>>717602849
>posting FFXIV images is an avatar signature
Are you okay? Maybe you should try doing something in Final Fantasy today. Did you try catching any of the new big fish?

>>717594857
It was enough to make me quit the game but not nearly enough to even consider playing WoW in it's current cucked state. I don't think i'm ever going to play an mmo again unless something really good somehow shows up.

>>717601732
the diver

>>717602913
Yes attaching unrelated official art with all your posts is basically a signature
>Maybe you should try doing something in Final Fantasy today
Its not required I play every day to post here

>>717594296 (OP)
>https://youtu.be/dEUQhJWTJJE?si=vA-B6YC-_2w4dDum
I knew I should've finished the MSQ as NIN.
Gotta hit the cutscene book later

>>717602586
its his fig-leaf to appear “on-topic” and keep the thread bumped, also uses it to ask boring questions (>>717600260) or act disingenuous (>>717602743)

>>717603060
I don't see how Final Fantasy XIV art is unrelated to a Final Fantasy XIV thread. You should log in and try the new hypnoslots to get the energy drinks!

So 7.3 flopped, what's our next cope?

>>717603149
Who's your favorite Heavensward character?
>>717603203
7.31 cosmic exploration, TRUST

>>717603203
it didn't? the story was great and wuk is almost out

>>717602743
>>717602913
Be honest. You seethe about threads that shit on the game, so you try to fill them up quicker to "kill" them. Don't blame the barry boogeyman, he's always been here and always will be.

Here, a little push

>>717603257
>the story was great
No it wasn't

>>717603264
Barry? Is that a character in Final Fantasy XIV? I know the one in Rebirth but did they reference him in XIV and I missed it?

>>717603203
The DD will bring people b-b-b-back!!

>>717603174
>I don't see how Final Fantasy XIV art is unrelated to a Final Fantasy XIV thread
We're so BACK

>>717603309
>If you need a little push, I'll be right there behind you.
KINO KINO KINO

I started playing the trial, lv 19.
Is it true I won't get to the fun stuff for like 200 fucking hours?

I miss my comfy SB threads when we would bitch about the glamour dresser and pagos and watch people insist Lyse was stealing valor and should've been dancer.

>>717603608
200? try 1000 lil gup

>>717603406
Be honest art dumpy-kun...

>>717603608
You MISSED the fun stuff by like 5-6 years. Uninstall now, it does not get better.

>>717603623
Those were better days...

>>717603608
So it seems. The leveling process is completely fucked because they keep removing skills from lower levels to make room for new ones, and the stat bloat trivializes encounters to the point of insanity. Most trial bosses die now before the music even kicks in properly.

>>717603608
Depends on what you find fun
When you get to lvl 50 you can do a lot of stuff
Like Coils, Extremes, etc.

>>717595360
>patches are good
>plotwise
yeah man I love the nonsensical shota that's just trying to do the same thing that evil sphene already tried in the msq
yeah I love him just being an ascian puppet again, I love techslop too on top of it
I loved when they took real sphene away from us in one patch even though everyone loved her. I love how scions are still just cardboard cutouts and we don't get any new characteres joining us to mix things up.

>>717602763
he’s aware

>>717603631

>>717603675
I'm honestly talking about Final Fantasy XIV, one of my favorite video games!
>>717603623
It should have been Dancer.

>>717600260
Farmed thief maps

>>717603761
Calyx is a fun villain so far, I like him.
>>717603858
Did you get the yan mount???

>>717600469
what item? hoping it's not moddedi textures look like they are ingame.

>no spamming or flooding of any kind
>of any kind

>>717603943
Final Fantasy XIV? Who's your favorite Miqo'te child?

>>717594296 (OP)
i feel like op was made by square enix to make me defend the game.

>>717603923
The Mayakov pants (Lilisette gear) from San d'Oria.

>>717594296 (OP)
by the way SAM has a different stance that I've never seen before in the cutscene before necron is summoned. i wonder if everyone got one.

should I resub
I never did forked tower, I let my sub expire a few days after occult came out because it was bozjaslop instead of eurekaslop

>>717604260
lmao

>>717604134
Thanks anon.

>>717604146
My PCT stance was the same as usual.

>>717604260
It's worst parts of both Eureka and Bozja

>>717604146
>>717604356
I just checked RDM though and it was also new.

threadly reminder

forced tranny generals belong in /vmg/

>>717603174
>hypnoslots
What does this mean?

>>717594296 (OP)
>paypiggy mazed by his milking machine

>>717604643
The new treasure map dungeon. It's funny because it sounds like hypnosluts.

>fewer players than failguard
kekaROOOOOOOOOO

grim

grimdark even

>>717594296 (OP)
So they're seriously doing a "Wuk Lamat died on the way to her home planet"?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/521030-Here-we-go-again
when the fuck will this TOXIC community think of casual players again? this HAS to stop!

>>717604751
Square Enix has always been a shitty failure of a black company, they're dead last behind Bandai, Konami, and even Crapcom.

>>717604794
She's still alive though, just written out like every other character that isn't the fujo's pet

ooo pretty

>>717598492
called it btw lol

>>717603257
>the story was great

>not even in the top 10
dead troonslop

>>717601276
Every character from that patch is in endwalker besides the exact Omega unit, grimwalt or whatever his name is, and Nero maybe. You could argue it was a hint about how far the scope of EW was and the actual location of "the sound" not being from the planet

>he doesn't get his Discord kitten to reply to drama posts for him
Do you even xiv?

R A P E D
A
P
E
D

>>717594296 (OP)
damn people actually play or care about this KEK

>>717605183
how come Guild Wars 2 isnt more popular? its everything everyone begs for in an MMO
>no subscription cost
>literally no p2w
>you dont lose all of your progress for not logging in for a week

>>717594296 (OP)
No, just no.

>>717605183
how is Guild Wars 2 right now? I hear absolutely nothing about it these days

>>717605294
having trouble hitting both threads?

>>717605286
Tranny shit + dogshit content

>>717594296 (OP)
>have beloved IP
>don't do shit with it
>have beloved characters from older expansions
>don't do shit with em
>have a variety of unique classes
>make em all the same
>have semi-real anime style with high SEX potential
>Make every single race that isn't humanoid fuck ugly
>Have mounts
>90% are ugly too
>have player housing and ERP crazy autists pay ungodly sums just to change their appearance
>here's 5 new pieces of furniture every 4th major patch
>have people that go crazy for appearances, emotes, etc. It goes as far that they develop a MOD that lets them sync up automatically through custom servers so everyone can actually see what everyone else modded, with custom encrpytion so paid mods can't be stolen, it's fucking crazy
>Here's a singular shit boring emote you get for sucking a tribe dick for a week or 2. Custom teleport animations? Hats for certain races? Dances? Variety of hair? Sorry, not possible, we're a small team
>Wow implements fancy flying physics
>Your mounts now lean a little when turning in FF (It was too much initially and had to be fixed later on)
>Have gold saucer, a popular digital gambling area with infinite possibilities
>Not a single fucking new thing in there except for a ""new"" jumping map. No chocobo stuff, mini games, shooting, etc.
>And more!

God I fucking hope this game either dies or Yoshit Pissman gets replaced. Or the entire team.
>t. someone who spent too much time in that shit game

>>717605439
SISTERS DO NOT LISTEN TO THE SQUARE ENIX PRESIDENT HE IS A TROLL

>>717605359
>Your mounts now lean a little when turning in FF (It was too much initially and had to be fixed later on)
This shit makes me boil when I think about it. They added a toggle for the people crying about motion sickness AND ALSO NERFED THE TILT AT THE SAME TIME. Why?! Just add the fucking toggle!

>>717603309
>back on his 24/7 ffxiv shift
Looking forward to see you meat those big burly roegadyn cocks Vizex

>>717605286
Theres really not much to do

>>717605286
Because it sucks to play

>>717605286
Pay for convenience IS pay to win.

>>717605359
dragonriding is garbage and i wish they hadn't implemented it

>>717605520
I did think the leaning was too much for some mounts. But instead of adjusting it per mount, they just nerfed it entirely because they only have a single variable for all of them.
So now it's a little bit of tilt or none at all. It was a stupid addition in the first place. They saw it in WoW but weren't able to come even close to the same implementation.
Ironic since ARR got popular because it copied wow very well.

>>717605063
>Baldurs Gate 3 is an MMO
Why would you post something this retarded?

>>717605731
You can literally toggle it retard. Just fly normally then.

>>717605063
>Reddit's top 10
lmao

why is sphene looking at us.. like that?

>>717605819
gotta 'earn' regular flying back. its retarded. you're retarded for liking it

>>717603374
>>717605054
>NO U replies
cool

>>717605921
What the fuck are you talking about. You unlock the switching for free when you reach level 20. Which is literally after the tutorial island.
Unironically braindead NPC. You read that somewhere on r*ddit instead of actually finding out yourself, didn't you?

>>717606058
in order to use regular flying on dornogol you have to uncover the entire map and get loremaster

>but you're moving the goalposts

literally no one was thinking you meant the old world exclusively

>>717604134
what are the chances of getting a bunch of aiming fags in my party if I go with my Dancer to get the parts?
Are the Shantotto and Prishe glams more popular?

>>717605896
Show feet you stupid whore

>>717606082
The WoWfugees show their true colors

>>717606232
>what are the chances of getting a bunch of aiming fags in my party if I go with my Dancer to get the parts?
When I went in yesterday my entire party was Dancers. Everyone wants the Lilisette gear.
>Are the Shantotto and Prishe glams more popular?
Not even close.

>>717606232
just queue with your friends as a dps

>>717604260
idk why you're asking here? you'll get flooded by the schizos before getting an actual answer
you're better off looking at the patch notes and deciding by yourself

Has 7.0 been redeemed yet by this patch? I've refused to play after beating Sphene, especially since I heard patch content sucked but 7.3 looks well received. I might get baited back

>>717606306
>your friends

>>717605932
it's funny how wrong was this meme

I like Solution 9 and the non Tural parts of Dawntrail. It essentially became a Star Ocean MMO which i'm perfectly fine with

>>717606324
story is better and looks promising since it's more or less back on track and the cancer has been dealt with
still, wait for 7.35 when they actually add replayable content

>>717604831
>he follows bald youtubers.
Get your own opinion asshole.

>>717606162
Wrong you cockmongler. I skipped everything since shadowlands. Recently decided to try the game again with a new account in EU instead of US because I moved, and I had it unlocked as soon as I reached level 20. I've only been in Dragonflight zones for like like 1 zone or maybe 2 because they had the super leveling buff.

I don't like what they did with WoW so far either, but you're just a fucktard that's wrong.

>>717605359
>XIV keeps company afloat
>rather than putting the money from it back into the game to make it better they use XIV as a training ground for new hires
>All good employees get moved to other areas to work on "high profile" stuff while XIV rots away

>>717606302
fuck
>>717606306
one wants the casting gear
the other one wants the fending one, idk why, shit's hideous
one is resubbing today, he has to catch up with two msq patches, so he's out
the other two are still in EW
I still have to deal with randos

>>717602401
>>717602517
Same. Janny cares more about “off-topic” than the two types of spam.

>>717606509
jesus fucking christ you're retarded

>>717606552
>meanwhile the ""high profile"" stuff is even more shit

Let's keep it going

>>717606624
Welcome to Square Enix.

>>717606604
Keep crying homestuck
You can always put that janny application in

>>717606428
>the setting got completely fucked but it barely resembles something else I like so it's fine
fuck off

>>717606632
why don't you just dump danbooru fanart?

The average femroe player.

>>717606457
I used to like Xeno, but he chimps out too often and its really cringe to watch

>>717606697
Which one of the boogeymen is that?

I legit have ptsd from a cat torture pic pol posted last night, can u guys please send pics of ffxiv cat girls to make me feel better :(

>>717594296 (OP)
I don't get how people were blindsided by this, is there a constant flow of newfags still? Even popular leaders get thrown away when their expansion is done. People like the city-state leaders and they haven't done shit for like a decade. Aymeric is still freezing his ass off with the other elves in the north pole castle, nobody remembers Hien anymore, the fate of these NPCs is to only exist within their own expansion, always.

>>717606878
Femroes are cuties

>>717606989
The EW role quests were great tho.

>>717606989
it's an ironic falseflag
you're not allowed to have positive XIV threads in the board

>>717606878
Decided to check the OF discussion
WE'RE SO BACK

>>717606921
Why are you posting on my behalf?

>>717606730
Made me laugh

>>717606989
They appear in side content and will reappear once relevant country issues come up. Given 7.3's ending, they're due to appear soon.

>>717607135
difficulty? what on earth is difficult in 7.3?

>>717606989
This is so true. The character named Seventh Dawn who leapt to the third most lines in the entire game across a decade of story was always meant to be shelved.

I need my big bazonga mods backs

>>717606989
Nope, everyone quit

>>717607178
if you come from a back where you only have to press one button or tap a screen, xiv can be difficult for you sometimes

>>717607236
>it was real in my twitter post

>>717598492
You should include yourself.
>faggot that is intimately aware of what a certain poster posts in hate threads yet can't stop clicking on them and responding to each and every one like a scorned lover

>>717607157
You’ve posted this thousands of times

>mazed xivniggers ITT still wasting sub money on kate's game
>in the year of our lord 2014+11

>>717607231
God I love huge tits

>>717605575
I completely forgot about your existence until you started getting mad about my posts again ngl frfr ong you don't really have much impact

>>717598443
It's not a board rule, but it should be
I guess Hiro likes missing out on ad revenue

>>717598443
Just report OP for spam/flooding and move on

>>717604260
What content do you want to do? The only change is dps does more aoe damage.
The game is the game if you're expecting the game to substantially change in year 11 that you're an idiot, there's story stuff, raid stuff, and new items to collect like every other patch, the only real 7.X content that changes with time is cosmic exploration

Yesterday's threads were way better than whatever this is

>>717599902
>wordswordswords
>I will hereby respect talk down on the vow
demented troon

>>717604535
xivcucks are mentally ill

>>717607484
*spends 5 years dumping the same folder of images*

It’s those dang ffxiv fags that are obsessed with ffxiv
>searches for ffxiv articles
>searches official forums
>searches twitter for ffxiv news
>searches bluesky for ffxiv news
>searches 2ch for ffxiv news
>searches youtube for ffxiv news
>searches twitch for ffxiv news
>searches individual mod troon discords for ffxiv news
You’ve unironically spent more time on ffxiv than every single actual ffxiv player in this thread combined

>>717598443
You think these threads are made by people who like the game?

>>717606697
lmao seething janny

he does it FOR FREE

>>717607993
Why are they all so dysgenic

>>717602743
>Some people get very, very angry when you talk about FFXIV or post FFXIV images for some reason. Isn't that strange?
Someone who is about as autistic as you, artbookdumper, reprimanded me for posting pictures of XIV girls. I wish we could just filter all the autism and thread deputies out of these threads.

>>717606232
I've ran Sandy multiple times this week at least 3 other aiming in every run for me, I ended up just settling for the gloves this week because I wanted to play some other games.

>>717605286
The studio fell for the typical turbofaggot narcissist grift and let a bunch of activists take over years ago. GW2 itself was great for its time and does interesting things that exceed other games but it's too old to matter anymore. Also good luck recovering reputation after that.

GOOGLE DOCKY

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IWWfJW2qtJxvj9CcW0bAzLlB2lsmaF5zA6dghFY7vV4/edit?gid=913041854#gid=913041854

>>717607993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cunMICmz1nQ
>>717608273
careful janny is already having trouble spamming 2 threads

>>717607869
Honeymoon period wore off.

>>717606697
And thus proving my point. Something is weird about this janny (who you cried to just now) that will target people talking about the spam and not the spam itself. It’s like the UK police ignoring Muslim child rapists but will imprison anybody that says a mean word. I bet he’s unironically just as brown.

>>717608427
Steve will defeat him, trust the plan.

>>717606509
>>717606162
>>717606058
>>717605921
>>717605819
>>717605731
dumbasss wow player lmaoooo

>>717605896
>hfw you didn't pop the question after all that shit

Can we not just talk about Y'Shtola my Wife?

>>717608521
Post your FF character, tranny

>>717608021
They're MMO players

>>717608569
Trust the 7.5 plan. New adventure will start and she’ll join us to help build relations with the world.

>>717605896
WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST KEEP HER KILLED OFF AFTER 7.0 I HATE THAT FUCKING SHITTY ASS CHARACTER SO MUCH SHE'S WORSE THAN THE CAT

>>717598492
I want him to get a productive hobby...

>rabbits still can't wear prominent metal helms
I guess I'll see you fucks in 7.55 for one month of Occult Crescent in 8+ months.

>>717605896
Speen cute

>>717607502
same, broski
for a dead game, xiv get a ton of daily quality fan art

>>717608813
>stacked miqo

Miqo are canonically flat as fuck. Yshtola pads her chest.

>>717608813
i want to make some cheese with this cat

>>717608654
It's over bro, they didn't even add a scene where she sees the sky for the first time in hundreds of years.

>>717608813
it's all commissions kek

>>717602180
wowcucks and cat trantasy 14 share the same bed

>>717608906
This isnt true Y'Shtola has nice boobs

>>717608427
Because it's not spam. It's paid advertising they can't remove.

>>717608925
the ones i posted aren't

>>717608906
didn't ask

>>717608692
>seething tranny hates the only attractive character in Dawntrail
kys

>>717609071
it's not like advertising the artist has no obligation to say it's a comm or even share it though some do

>>717594296 (OP)
How can it be daved?

I finally finished Pandemonium. It's all fucking downhill from here, isn't it.

Where are the PLOGONS.......

>>717609158
I am not a tranny, I am a strong middle aged white male tranny fucker (you), please address me with appropriate respect you whippersnapper.

>>717609197
so you have no way to tell either way

>>717602180
I play both, but ironically, WoW has tranny stuff in game to try and attract gay faggots and is failing while FF doesn't have anything like that besides maybe some implications and all the shit sucking selfmutilators are there.

Even more ironically, wow keeps adding fat ugly disabled niggers characters but their target audience wants to pretend to be cute cat girls while being big burly men.

I'm the men who want to be a cute cat girl, but I'm not a tranny or gay. I just like cute girls

cats deserve sexo

>>717609216
Arcadion is good. Panemonium was well perceived cause it was often compared to post EW MSQ

>>717609385
holy shit, dem titties

>>717607869
They shit on a character who represents non-heteronormative people to appease a toxic part of the fanbase, and you expect cordiality?

People are furious and pessimistic.

>>717605286
I got it at launch because my friends kept hyping it up to me, played for about 12 hours that week and haven't touched it ever since. I respect people who want to try and buck the role trinity to shake up the genre, but GW2 did a shit job at it. My ape brain finds fitting classes into categories satisfying, and you're not offering me an adequate alternative here. The skybox is just a static painting as well, which probably only offends my autistic ass but every time I looked at the sky I was reminded how artificial it was. Perhaps I'm not built for westoid MMOs, I didn't enjoy Rift either.

Post your FF14 Character

>>717608813
>for a dead game, xiv get a ton of daily quality fan art
Yeah and virtually all of that is just art of people's OCs. There is barely ANY fanart if the actual NPC characters, besides Y'shtola (and half of that is just some autistic trust fund guy's brown futa OC fucking her). Which is shocking in a game that's supposedly as popular as FFXIV is that's driven by its story, that almost nobody actually gives a shit about the actual characters from the story (evidenced by the near total lack of fanart of them).

Your average gacha character has more fanart than all of the Scions combined.

>>717609297
you can just go to their socials and see it's nearly all comms blud ain't gonna state it for every single one nobody does

>>717609550
female miqote with white hair

>>717609216
DW 8 man raid is orders of magnitude better than Pandemonium. With these middling expansions you really have to learn to separate content. I'm enjoying the alliance raid and 8 man, but the MSQ is zzz.

>>717609657
>supposedly
It’s the most played mmo in the world

Why is /v/ so obsessed with this mediocre visual novel masquerading as an MMORPG, especially after Dawntrail? I've yet to see a single poster in these threads explain why they like this game.

>>717609550
john fantasy

>>717609741
There’s a free trial you can judge for yourself

>>717605286
>no p2w
>literally need to grind for hundreds of hours or paypig for far more than subscription would cost before you get basic QoL to make the game playable, and have reasonable amount of character slots, and bank space

>>717609741
i liked it because of my Wife Y'Shtola

>>717609657
>There is barely ANY fanart if the actual NPC characters
not quite. ofc, you get a lot of OC, but you also get a lot of characters. speen, venat and yshtola get a lost of fanart

The all "female" ultimate clears will come back
I just know it

>>717609657
Graha prob has more than all female characters

>>717609292
needless bugfixes preasu unsahstando

>>717609662
fair. still, it gets a lot of art
other mmos barely get anything

>>717605286
I tried GW2 again and am currently playing waiting for the next raid patch in ffxiv. But man in order to deal damage in that game in it's high-end content is spastic, it's literally ADHD zoomer paradise. It can be engaging but man.. the fight can be fun thoughever lots of active dodging and maneuvering
>>717608162
Jessica Price destroyed that fucking game's narrative. Doesn't help every writer after continues to shit on it. It's full of "guuuhhrrrrl powwwweerrr" while emasculating every single male character in the game.

>>717609657
Fanart is a really gay way to judge “popularity” I can’t recall ever seeing a piece of breaking bad fanart when it was dominating tv, you saying no one liked breaking bad

>>717610072
comparing a game with a western tv show is even gayer

>>717609741
They like this game because it's a second life ERP simulator for them, nobody on thus site actually plays FFXIV. Go look at xivg for proof, they are representative 9f the ffxiv community on 4chan. Notice how nobody om /v/ ever actually talks about the actual content? How so often these threads devolve into avatarfags gooning with eachother? It's because the "fans" of this game here don't actually play the game, they're Second Life freaks who've made this game their current home and 4chan they're hub to groom more ERP partners.

If you banned all these people than XIV threads would die overnight.

>>717609741
I'm bankrolling FFXIV to revive FFXI.

>>717610145
You say this (probably a copypasta desu) but all the SL modbeast posters are always in vg flooding that nonstop.

Big Bulging Black male Roegadyn Cock

Besides the severe lack of this, Dawntrail was a 10/10

>>717610131
>this fictional property isn’t a fictional property because…because it just isn’t

>>717610034
WoW has a lot of fanart of a couple of its npc characters.

why are you mean to lalafells stop being mean to us

>>717610351
they owe me sex

>>717607543
Keep replying to me you're bucked
Hope to see you next tuesday same time same place

>>717610554
Dude they're legal adults everywhere but California...

>>717606428
I've only played the first 3 SO games, but that shit is just anime Star Trek, S9 isn't much like it at all.

>>717609550
It's kind of funny being a Dark Souls character that gets into parties with catgirls in K-Pop outfits, bunnygirls in bikinis, and lizard girls in gothic lolita dresses.

>>717608427
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
POST THE DOCCY BRO GO GET EM!

>>717609657
>There is barely ANY fanart if the actual NPC characters, besides Y'shtola
I wish you faggots would learn how to use pixiv before making claims like this.

You have more of an emotional attachment to the characters than to random twitter users you don't know posting their OC characters. (And also there's a difference between characters who are designed by profesionals and characters that are just made by a player messing around with the character creator and glam system, even if there can be very good ones.)

>>717610758
>shitposter gloating about being protected by mods
>>717608273

>want to try XIV again
>built a new PC
>didn't back anything up
>lost all my keybinds
is it just legitimately over? I can't rebuild, it's too daunting

I want a lala wife bros...

>>717610756
Whenever I see people in fantasy glams they always get the automatic comm. I don't care if they're floor tanking the whole fight. Better giving it to them then the modernslop glams.

>>717610776
Lol they probably just search English twitter.

>>717610850
nobody is exempt from the janny
and you don't tell the janny to do their job
this is shitchan 101 and you failed spectacularly
go ban evade more and prove his point

>>717610874
>didn't back anything up
astronomic retard, you can do it for no effort on the login screen

>>717610854
Out of all the images you spam this is probably the funniest one, just a shitty screen cap of your own post in which you got BTFO

>>717610351
>sample_

>>717610938
>ban evade
Projecting much?

>>717610892
i can be your wife anon

>>717610874
Just make new ones, they'll prolly be better than what you originally used

>subscribers down
>Dawntrail listed as the worst expansion ever
You know what you need to do Yoshi-P

>>717610494
i've seen a lot of wow fanart lately, but it's mostly AI, at least what gets posted on wowg

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IWWfJW2qtJxvj9CcW0bAzLlB2lsmaF5zA6dghFY7vV4/edit?gid=913041854#gid=913041854

YOU CANNOT GET RID OF ME THAT EASY

>>717610874
You can't hook up your old drive and copy the character files over?

>>717610609
It's Friday tho, it's pizza day

>>717611051
Pasty white boy greasemaxxing
lol

>>717610983
sample this

ARE YOU FRUSTRATED?

>>717611190
Kinda curious how desperate you are to ban evade and re dump the folder even though you have done it thousands of times, why the urgency?

>>717611247
his butt is sweating now

'cord raid losing
drop the softcore porn spam

Dumpy Im wearing the pvp modernslop gear

>>717610854
>all those stonks.....
>still irrelevant....
maybe after they introduce that multi expansion classic wow they have rolling in china...
>>717611190
based

>>717611232
Dump kun manually dumps his folder with tears in his eyes, I know you see this post.

Fat internet jannoid cuck whose entire life can be summed up as “I am mad at final fantasy”. You are a burden on your family and they wished you were dead

ffxiv should stop pretending that anybody actually wants to play as some generic anime girl when you can just be a lalafel and focus more on that. nobody actually wants to be one of those generic looking anime dudes/girls right?

>>717611190
I know this is dumpy. But it's crazy how fast they acted on patching this up while letting all the other rampant cheats go untouched.

Line up into my sights monkeys
Dance for me

femelezen dragoons are the most powerful beings in the setting

>>717611030
You guys don't destroy your old hard drives?

>dumpy crying on irc about being molested by Steve
We are entering a new cinema arc

>>717611530
proof? you mean doccy right

>>717611536
Dumpy kun dumpy kun crying on irc

Going to kill himself for he shames his family

DUMPY GET DICCY BY DOCCY

There is a conceited effort to RAPE all discussion on XIV
Avatarfags
Schizos
Waifufags

None are safe from the master's wishes
Best to just bend over and take it

the archduke won

>>717609657
Who cares, most player characters look significantly better than Yshtola.

>>717611681
Holidays gone by
Weekends gone by
Birthdays gone by
Life gone by

Dumpy kun all alone spamming every day, wishing he would die

Dumpy x Zepla

need dps for sando on crystal

get in here

>>717594296 (OP)
Does Sphene become a Scion? Or is she also cucked to Tural or the 9th?

>>717594296 (OP)
How does one "dave" a dead tranny mmo?

https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/202206030001/

>Interviewer: It seems that Y'shtola's popularity is on the rise again among the community, perhaps due to the impact of "that" scene. Do you have any behind-the-scenes stories to share with us about?

>Yoshida: I was hesitant about that scene. There were parts where I felt like I was going too far. I think it's important to be careful not to make Y'shtola into a joke. It's true that within the community, she's often called "Mama" and picked up by everyone, but I don't think it's right to rely on that.

>I really want to portray the character of Y'shtola, and I don't like dragging out a part that only lasts one episode. So, there is a limit to what I can do. By the way, I heard that Kayano-san (Kayano Ai-san, who voices Y'shtola) also played a considerable number of different roles.

NO FUN ALLOWED. NO INTERESTING CHARACTER MOMENTS ALLOWED. NO CHARACTER GROWTH ALLOWED. EVERY CHARACTER MUST BE COMPLETELY 1 DIMENSIONAL AND NEVER GROW OR CHANGE EVER. NOBODY DEVELOPS. NOBODY DIES. NOTHING EVER HAPPENS. BUY THE LATEST Y'SHTOLA MERCH.

>>717611948
shes cucked to Tural with Wuk

>>717611873
Steve x Dumpy
tags: anal_penetration, all_the_way_through, oral, cum_inflation, minecraft, minecraft_creeper, overweight_male, web_browser, instant_loss

>>717611873
i bet dumpy loves zepla

>>717611948
speener was banished to the cuckshed and wuk is now a permanent scion

>>717611985
Guess I won't resub till the next expansion then

I remember when Y'shtola had a personality for 5 seconds, than Yoshi P got mad and made sure that would never happen again, because in Yoshida's mind, a character who is a "serious" character can NEVER have an unserious moment.

>Yoshida on that Y’shtola scene: “I really was at a loss what to do… There was a part of me that felt, aren’t we getting a bit carried away here? One point we pay attention to is not to turn Y’shtola into a joke. For sure, within the community, you’ve got things like people calling her ‘mummy’, but it would be wrong to indulge that. Properly speaking we should handle Y’shtola’s character properly, and I don’t much like just drawing on this one character trait. So, I felt this is the breaking point and we shouldn’t go further than this. By the way, I hear Y’shtola’s voice actor Kayano Ai performed a lot of different takes on this scene.” He continued: “I’m thinking we should stop breaking the characters any more than this. This time, it ended up with Y’shtola having a magical girl phase where she was self-consciously cute [laughs bitterly].”

He’s so mad he’s double posting now

FFXIV has always been cucked since the very beginning

[laughs bitterly]

Ffxiv unironically killed this guy he should sue square for emotional damage

>Interviewer: Final Fantasy XIV is known among the LGBTQIAA+ community as something of a safe space. Have you ever had a queer experience yourself?
>Yoshida: As a matter of fact, yes! [Laughs] In my first year of university I had returned home to my grandparents house for the Obon holiday. I met up with a childhood friend of mine and we spent all day drinking and having fun. Eventually we ended up taking a bath together, and, well... [Laughs] I want to be clear that it's not my kind of thing, but I do understand what some see in it! [Laughs]

Don't even need to post the link, he's rustled enough as it is. Just remind him that I exist.

>>717612358
How does yoshida feel about the google doc showing the thousands of times folder kun has posted it over 5 years

MOGS MOUNTS CHEEVOS
WE LOVE VIZEX XENE-O
ZIVVIE ZIVVIE XEEBO!

>>717612491
No wonder you stick the folder dump when these are your posts otherwise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxz9zZpN7pQ

>Y'shtola was not only able to adventure with us for the first time, but actually showed a personality and had a funny moment
>Yoshit Piss saw this scene and got angry for some autistic reason and demanded the writers never do anything like this with her again
>Y'shtola will be safe and boring and utterly devoid of personality from now on

Reminder that Yoshi P is a chain on the cock and balls of the writing team preventing good character and narrative writing from happening.

>>717612571
It's so cute how Y'Shtola's ears perk back in embarrassment

>>717612451
>Interviewer: An infamous poster on a certain message board is so dedicated to hating you that he reposts the same images every day, almost religiously. A document tracking him shows that he's posted each image hundreds of times in just a few months. How do you feel about that?
>Yoshida: [Laughs bitterly] "Well.... Eto.... It's a little strange, isn't it? [Laughs] I don't think I'm important enough to have someone so dedicated to hating me! It's a little embarrassing isn't it? [Laughs]

>>717612845
>holds up printed photo of Jack Black as Steve from Minecraft™ to the camera

>write a whole ass post about how this rarely happens
>immediately replies with that exact situation
Also who the fuck swifties their Ruby? Like you have infinite mobility before you're forced to stand still for two casts, setup shop where you need to, pretend to be (old) BLM for like 5.5s.

>>717611986
Whats interesting is that the moment the posts about the janny/doc were deleted and they got another ban, the folder dumping resumes.
I wonder if at any point the janny will have to explain to the admins why he refuses to delete the spam posts (doing his job as a janny) but only targets those taking about it? Is it because he’s doing the spam himself?
>>717612436
Basado. (That’s Based in ESL)

>>717594296 (OP)
who the fuck is dave

>>717612967
Someone should shop it.

>>717612587
>Krile getting shafted on HER expansion
>Literally negative ammounts of Tataru
>Pelu Pelu are just Lalas without magic
Why are we getting punished bros? It's not our fault no one likes Hrothgars

FFXIV needed to end at EW and make XIV-2 or whatever mainline number they want it to be.

Any game, even an MMO, needs a refresh once a fucking decade and I don't think this is some wild or crazy god damn concept to throw out there. WoW needed a WoW 2 however many years ago, XIV needed an XIV-2 where DT is instead.

The coding problems, the "we can't really wring anything else out of this setting" problems, the absolute completely different gameplay between ARR/HW and the rest of the game, problems in the early game with player retention because it's quite literally a "It gets *slightly better* gameplay wise 20 hours from the start" type of issue where the only thing they could do to "fix" it was to make it fucking F2P.

A rank hunts have been broken for the greater portion of a decade or an outright decade now, old systems like command squadrons were remade with trusts then remade again for Duty Supports, high player count absolutely eviscerates the entire game by fucking with not only the gameplay but the literal graphical playability since the engine doesn't handle it for shit, it's in the phase of "post game" story wise for a FF where the "Attack" command is all 9999s and there's no real way to change that hence why there will never be another long term antagonist, this shit was on PS3 which ended compatibility with PS4 and now it's reaching the point where the PS4 version will end compatibility for PS5.

Holy fuck, just restart us on another reflection as their version of a WoL and move on or truly start over from scratch with only the overarching basic themes still being retained. Feel like I'm taking fucking crazy pills over here.

>>717613086
Probably does it with a mod's say so.

>>717613086
He cries in irc, he buys the pass every single time like a literally cuckold. He doesn’t even do it for free he does it at cost

>>717594296 (OP)
7.3 was good actually. :)

>>717613086
>>717613171
I will once again remind you the janny only board shown in the site leak had a world of warcraft general (also a general where they cry about how hard life is lmao)

>>717594296 (OP)
wuk can either be dead or pic related, I refuse to return while that thing is alive/speaking.

>>717607213
yes, just like Ryne "Blessing of Light" Waters

xivtroons killed square enix

>>717600469
SEEEEX

>>717613134
Totally will when home. This one is perfect cause it looks like a glam photo he would hold up.
If the transparency didn’t carry. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/the-ultimate-good/images/c/cd/SteveAMinecraftMovie.png/revision/latest?cb=20250411193003

>>717610756
I know that feel

>>717613380
I believe you said this 5 years ago

Really never wish I met my hero when I learned steve was just as schizophrenic as the dumpy

>>717613458
yea but now its 2 more weeks
so deal with it

was gonna resub but i didnt know the new dd wasnt until october so i guess ill keep waiting

I thought I'd hate the trophy crystal gear more. But they actually got enough an edge to them that I can consider them Final Fantasy.
I'm not defending the fucking rank 25 gear, though. That shit is awful.

>>717613501
Even if that was true dumpy kun it’s impossible to tell since you have a head start by 4 years, no you are alone

>>717604535
>>717607993
>considered resubbing
>decided I didn't want to be near these wastes of oxygen
I'm just glad Star Resonance is getting good reviews and footage

>>717613536
Huh really? I also tought it was for this patch
Guess I could play October and November

>>717605520
Just add a slider.

>>717613137
Krile is still bearing the curse of Eureka and not being allowed to voice her thoughts on things like sacrificing lives for a greater a good like he grandfather did because city idlers don't know about that.

You can't have a piece of my pie

>>717603203
>looks at consensus on 7.3
No, I actually think it did the opposite of flop.
Which is surprising considering it had a lot of weight to carry after 7.0 and 7.1 sucked colossal amountso f ass.

>>717609919
>Stal: Guild Wars 2
>Sylvee: OnlyFans
>Queene: FFXIV
>Anniefuchsia: OSRS
>Naguura: WoW
>Mizzteq: FFXIV (semiretired)
>Spofie: FFXIV (semiretired)
>Zepla: WoW & GW2
Grim...

>>717613750
How many melties would be had if Baldesion Arsenal was required content?

>>717603257
any story with wuk has to overcome an enormous amount of negative feelings from players, and this did not succeed

Has dumpy just been talking to himself in these threads all this time since 7.3 dropped having a discussion with himself about how 7.3 definitely flopped and everyone totally hated it?
Wtf.

Did the dumpy ever play XIV?

>>717614028
No sometimes he seethes in osrs threads when those pop up too

>>717614098
Lmao really? What like? Cause isn't he shilling OSRS here?

>>717613296
I missed this lore lol. It makes so much sense.
Let me guess, majority of them hate “weeb” stuff despite working (for free) on an anime message board?

>>717609550
Hello
>>717610756
Real
I didn't care when it was one thing on occasion, but it's overtaken literally every other type of gear almost, it's 80% of what was added this patch
At least the dungeon gear is cool why why why can't I dye it?

>>717614295
You can't claim to be a Dark Souls character when you're using glowshit weapons.

incoming lala!

>>717614295
So the gear can be used as a filler crafted set with slightly changed base colors.

>>717613423
Very good glam, I used that chest piece on Viper too but in red

>>717614369
COMIN IN HOT

>>717614028
>>717614098
>>717614159
You've spent this entire thread talking about your thread obsession and zero time actually talking about FFXIV. Thd only one derailing the thread right now is you. Shut the fuck up about thread boogeyman, nobody fucking cares. If he bothers you so much ignore him and talk about the game in spite of him. Why the fuck dies endlessly replying to yourself sbout how much you hate the dumper achieve? You're not making him go away, if anything you're just emboldened him because you make it obvious he bothers you.

Just talk about the game, holy fuck

>>717614361
Just imagine one of those lubricant items was use on the weapons.

>>717614361
my guiding moonlight...

>>717614435
Ah now he’s on the concern troll phase of his burst

>>717614369
Due to budget cuts we're no longer firing munitions from our war cannons, it's Lalafell only.

>>717614361
Sorry, I'll equip one of the Babyface cyberpunk weapons from savage since they don't glow

I want to catch up with the story and regular content but I don't feel like doing a single roulette

>>717614425
>COMIN IN HOT
I love when Big Black Roegadyns come into me hot.

>>717614586
this stupid turd was a waste of time. im surpised alisaie didnt get an arc with this fucking retard

>>717614361
>>717614578
FOR THE GRACE FOR THE MIGHT OF THE LORD
FOR THE HOME OF THE HOLY

>>717614539
>>717614578
Moonlight Greatsword has a tasteful glow and not even in every game. Ultimate weapons are pure WoWfag shineslop.

>>717614435
>all these typos
Dumpy faggot is crying and shaking. You get ignored plenty. Never stopped you once in the 5 years you’ve been doing this shit.

>>717614435
>I'm literally shaking right now
GOOGLE

>>717609550
Normally use Drachen Helm, though. But cutscenes are cutscenes.

>>717614658
Blud doesn't play the games he's tallking about...

>sage at ~450 posts
?

>>717614435
>tumblr
If you're gonna shitpost with a Dawntrail image, at least use it yourself.
>>717614798
he does it for free

>>717614435
No one cares about making you “go away”, you’ve spent the last half decade following finno fanto for 20 hours a day. You’re a lolcow that gets milked. Everyone knows you’re going to kill yourself anyways.

>>717614798
Last thread some dumbass was like “how do know it’s a sage?” Because we see what page it’s on at the bottom buddy.

>>717614798
Dumpy jannoid crying himself to sleep most likely, KWAB

>>717614398
I know, but I still wanted to bitch about it

>>717614013
the wuk from 7.3 is how 7.0 wuk should've been
most people are still mad cause they're too lazy to switch to jp

>>717614594
>sees child coded character
>immediately thinks of black cocks

>>717615101
>POV of Wuk just as the pov of the Wol from when Alphie healed him after his Zenos fight in Endwalker
Oh fuck off. I will NEVER like that bastard character, get her off the screen the sooner the better.

>>717614887
It’s a bump limit, not a auto-sage. Sage is when you type “sage” in the options field. It’s a bump limit. A fucking bump limit.

The opposite of auto-sage is auto-age, which bumps the thread infinitely. The corresponding opposite of a bump limit would be the lack of a bump limit, which would mean you have the *ability* to bump the thread infinitely.

See? They are two different things. Stop calling it an auto-sage.

>autosaging a 466 posts thread
masterful gambit, mod sama

So many good new tracks this patch.
https://youtu.be/XAVB-GJzbA4
https://youtu.be/4_H2dM_lGgU
https://youtu.be/Svy6IgaK694
I liked these the most other than Promise of Tomorrow itself. I don't recall hearing Machinations once.

>>717615454
this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mH5FOF4tho
and the one that plays in OPs vid when the WoL readies to attack are pure kino

>>717613812
Try leaving your hugbox lil gup

>>717613812
it probably didn't attract too many players back, cause most are just waiting for 7.5 to get a fuckton of story to go through. can't blame them
but yeah, 7.3 was a considerable improvement

>>717615454
I really like the first one you posted. The bells have a great eerie touch to them.

>>717615708
cope

>>717615650
>and the one that plays in OPs vid when the WoL readies to attack are pure kino
That's actually Paved With Resolve.
The same song that played when Wuk broke into the Interphos fight to SPEEEEN.
This was probably their attempt at apologizing for that, by giving it to us instead this time.

>>717615650
Loved the second boss fight of this dungeon.
Also loved that it wasn't Amaurot again like I expected. There was a bit of memory shit there, but it was mostly just Calyx throwing stuff at us to wear us down than wanting to show us his sob story.

>>717614658
>gets shit on
>NUH UH IM RIGHT

holy shit lmao.

>>717615017
the problem is course correcting makes everyone look like ass still. just fire hiroi already.

>>717615965
>This was probably their attempt at apologizing for that, by giving it to us instead this time.
They really should apologize considering that final moment I think broke even the most ardent of wuk apologists

If 7.0 and 7.1 were 7.2 and 7.3 level, it would have been one of the better expansions.

>>717615965
>This was probably their attempt at apologizing for that, by giving it to us instead this time.
It worked. I only did the 7.0 trial once, so it was easy to replace the memory

>>717615271
oh shit they did do that. lol

>>717616061
Yeah dude these are the same.

>>717616215
I only got it in my roulette once after finishing DT. I really still was bummed they ruined such a hype trial with such a shit climax to it, but yeah, I appreciate them trying to make up for it.

>>717616136
i prefer course correcting than doubling down
anyone who says otherwise is a certified retard

>>717615965
>>717616147
it was. I was actually hyped by eternal queen fight and could not believe the shit that followed.

It was such a stupid decision backtracking makes them all look like ass now. what an awful expansion. they dont know what to do.

>>717616289
he wanted them to double down so the dooming would continue

>I am just shitting on them so they are forced to improve! I AM TRYING TO SAVE THE GAME BY MAKING THEM FACE THE FACTS
>[they improve]
>Why did they improve!? By backtracking, they just made themselves look foolish!